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In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Craig Bryson and Jodie Mears reveal their secrets of achieving that elusive work-life balance, specifically crafted for the everyday heroes – Administrative Assistants.
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Get ready to transform your routine as we address a listener's query on balancing work and personal life, with real, actionable advice based on our own experiences.
You've heard of work-life balance, but what about work-life harmony? It's all about communication, self-assessment, and effectively utilizing health awareness programs.
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Files Episode 5,.
In this episode, we are goingto talk about how can
administrative assistantsachieve a better work-life
balance.
Without you, there is notomorrow, and without you, there
is no tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's difficult because we do everything.
How can you do balanced?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I know I don't like the idea of a balanced.
It was recently pointed out tome in a webinar that if you
think of a balance as a scale ora seesaw, one's up one's down.
And it's really difficult toachieve.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So how's that balanced?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That equilibrium of the middle ground, because
you're going to make one tiptoestep and you're going to throw
the other side off.
It's really I don't know if youcan achieve a harmonious
balance as such, but there arestrategies and coping skills
that we can talk about that helpyou inch towards making sure
(01:32):
you're not just living to work.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes.
So what does it mean to youbeing a better work-life balance
?
I mean, you've got somechildren and so you've got to
work, you've got to pick up thekids, you've got to drop them
off, so how's that for you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, it's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Women have been doing this for years anyway, so
there's nothing new for you.
Multitask we're definitely goodat multitasking, and keeping
all balls up in the air anyway,exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So that's not a big deal for me, but it does add to
sort of the complexities of myday.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Let's say that I've achieved a much better work-life
balance since the whole workfrom home situation.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh, definitely, oh yes.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I am grateful, in a sense of lockdown coming at a
time it did I mean health issuesaside yeah that's a completely
different thing, but thepositives of this worldwide
complete shutdown has meant thatmy role, our role, has been
highlighted as a much moreflexible role than it used to be
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considered.
So the working from home andused to be frowned upon.
Bums need to be on seats.
You need to be visible.
You need to be by a printer.
I'm afraid you need to makesure if anyone needs anything.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You need to be right there to get in something, so I
was really pleased that whenlockdown happened that we were
all working from home.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It was a bit like, see, we can do it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, we can do it at home and do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The company's still functioning, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Some of them still want us to go back five days a
week.
I think it's unrealistic.
I think times are changing.
Technology is coming forward.
As we've been speaking thewhole season.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think now it's more two days in the office and it's
more of a catch up with yourworkmates and networking.
For example, if I go into theoffice, I know that if my boss
is there, I've got to be inthere.
If he's the only guy for twodays, I'm going to be in there
for two days, but if I'm goingto go when he's not there, other
partners tend to use me becausetheir EAs are at home and
(03:34):
there's.
Oh, my EAs are not here.
Would you be able to print this?
Would you be able to bound it?
Would you be able to do this?
So it's that sort of I'm goingto stay at home when he's
staying home.
So they're going to balance.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I mean whatever works for the business.
I don't agree with the wholeattitude of you've had your fun,
get back to the office theworld has changed permanently.
It wasn't just a flittingmoment where we had to put a few
measures in and now, okay,everyone go back to normal.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah.
There is no normal we have anew normal as we keep getting
quoted.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
This is the new normal.
Yeah, there are lots of issuesaround going back to the office.
I understand cities andinfrastructure, public transport
needs to be supported, but Idon't necessarily feel that you
have to be in work five days aweek.
I don't believe in the officeor company culture being
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centered around people in theoffice.
If the company culture wasn'tthere in the first place, it's
not going to be there now justbecause you're dragging people
into the office unnecessarily.
Exactly, we can be a lot moreproductive at home.
Me personally, I can.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'd be too.
I'd be too.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So people love to be amongst other people but now
I've had two sides.
Before lockdown.
I used to like being withpeople chatting here in the buzz
.
Me too yeah, often like workingwith a radio.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now I need to be inside them and then I can crack
on a lot, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Focus.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, so things have changed permanently.
So, therefore, work lifebalance, work life has changed
permanently, yeah.
So understanding that now meansfor you and I think it
highlighted during lockdown whatis important in your life and
it is being, you know, reallyhealthy, healthy friends of
(05:18):
family, family, yeah, yeah it'ssort of shifted.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This is the benefit shift.
Now it's more.
I am focusing on me now andalso with working from home, and
even though you need to havebreaks in between your work to
take your mind off, just toreset yourself, I thought of
popping the washing on and justgetting them out and hanging
them up.
And as I'm hanging up thewashing, okay, I need to send
that email.
I need to do that.
(05:42):
So I'm away from the computerbut also sort of dreaming Still
thinking.
Still thinking, still workingand also putting on a meal like
cooking roast chicken, pop thatin the oven, there you go, put
it down slow cook, all that sortof stuff.
I think it's back.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That is very personal to you, but it does highlight
the fact that when we're in theoffice, those things were still
going through our mind.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah.
But that anxiety of oh gosh, Ineed to get home.
I need to do all these thingsbetween five and six.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, there's so many things I need to cram in
between five, seven or five andeight.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And if you want small kids, it's also I need to feed
them at the bottom.
Get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean there's going to be.
If you haven't got children,there's going to be pets,
there's going to be dependents,there's going to be family.
That why your time elsewhere oryour leisure might be a club or
a hobby that you need to gethome to.
So the whole lockdown thing wasa good thing for me.
It reset the balance, it resetthe scales and I now know and
(06:41):
I've been forced intounderstanding what my learning
style is, what's important to meand what I will and will not
tolerate or can accept anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, and also I'm thinking more of my sort of
taking care of physical mentalhealth, going to the gym during,
like, oh, instead of lunch time, there's a gym across the road,
I can take a nap.
I will just go have my lunch,go do that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it's really important.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's important to me your first, because when you
come back from the gym you'reall still wet.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's hard to just sling off as well in the office.
What?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
time, have you come?
Yeah, I'm on my lunch break.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, offices are a funny environment.
It's like being in a goldfishbowl.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm just worried about who's watching.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
what are they thinking?
But, ultimately, we have got tothink about what is good for us
, what's good for our healthphysical and mental health and
achieving that.
You need to be realistic andhonest, honest, honest.
You can take the transparentwith yourself first of all,
before you have anyconversations of this is how I
like to work.
(07:42):
Does the company support this?
Ask questions.
Yeah, what is the company'sstance on work-life balance?
What systems or initiatives doyou have in place to promote a
healthy work-life balance?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's not a balance, no it shouldn't be balance in
the two?
Your life should come first.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
First, yeah, but we can kind of mix this advice in
and share in this knowledge inwith learning and embracing new
tech to achieve the work ofharmony, let's say streamlining
processes efficiencies, freeingup your time, yeah.
So we spoke about timemanagement and how long it can
take doing the traditional routeof booking meetings with other
(08:23):
EAs.
We need to set this meeting up.
Is so and so free on Tuesday atfive?
No, he's not, but he's freethis time.
You can use those new apps andsoftware add-ons you might
already have them licensed tothe company, you haven't asked
enough questions yet and usethose power-ups or those extra
(08:44):
add-ons to outlook.
Find time.
Every single one of these timesaving or streamlining
productivity app can help usachieve our work life harmony.
So one supports the other, theother one supports the other.
So we need both in our life tosupport our desired outcome in
(09:05):
life.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It might be your mortgage or your hobby.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Going on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Here we go.
It's getting personal.
Now.
That's what it worked for.
It's got a fit, hasn't?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
it, it has yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So what you do needs to support what you want.
Exactly Having thoseconversations with yourself and
understanding what your driversare.
How do you want to balance yourwork and your life?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And this is probably something you need to speak with
your boss Sit down and say thisis what I want to do.
I'll do this.
It's setting boundaries andpriorities, praying yourself in
the front and set off puttingothers before you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Which is difficult with us, isn't?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
it yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As a profession is because we're always known as
supporting others Things Don'treally like, you know we are
that skill?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We are team member.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
No, we're the skillful profession in its own
right.
We're not just a proper team,just supporting other people to
be successful, even though,ultimately, driving the business
goals forward and personalgoals and achievements is what
we do.
It's not just about otherpeople.
You might want to refresh aconversation with HR and maybe
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people culture whatever they'recalled to understand your
company rewards and benefits.
There might be something thereyou've forgotten about maybe
some healthcare add-ons forcounselling, some gym membership
, some membership that'saffiliated to all of the company
benefits, which might help youin turn, balance the harmony of
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work and life.
It might give you some newideas of how you can best use
the company benefits and perksand rewards.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What about the?
Can you do this?
I need it now.
It has extra work.
Don't be afraid to say no, Ifind that.
How urgent is this?
Can I do this tomorrow, becauseI'm really busy in that?
So, I think, standing yourground and your boundaries, as
we talked about earlier, I thinkthat's something also, but you
don't want to say no.
I'm always saying yes toeverything.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We do tend to say yes , but we do need to be clear.
If I say yes, what do you wantme to put to the sideline?
Well, you've asked me to do allof this by the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Which is more important?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah out of the 10,.
What three do you want donetoday?
Because I also need to go homeand do some personal things.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, I slowly have to go.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I'm not saying it's easy, but it's finding those
words and having thatrelationship at the beginning
with your executive or yourmanager.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And if you're able to delegate, that's another thing.
If you're like part of a teamand say, well, would you be able
to do this, because you're goodat that and I can work on this,
and therefore we can get thejob done.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, delegation is great.
I mean, there's a lot of EAsand PAs and definitely well, vas
for sure that don't have thebenefit of having a team to
delegate.
So leaning on being veryproficient with your time, being
strict with your own timehaving that cut off and that
boundary, to say that theforefront of the employment or
the assignment I work thesehours.
(12:08):
I mean if it's just letting youknow, if it's one off.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
for example, this client needs to document at six
o'clock.
Everybody's all hands on deck,they're all doing it, but if
it's every day, then you workinto a class.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They are situations.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I'm not saying that it's five o'clock, it's in my
sort of contract.
I'm leaving up that's a bit nona team player, so you need to
say, ok, I can help you.
But if I've worked three hoursover time, can I come in a
little bit later because I haveto drop my kids off and I have
to do this or stuff.
So there should be a compromiseby the company and the worker.
And also, if you're going tohave lunch, don't sit at your
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desk because you need to getyour desk.
Somebody will come get out ofthe office, go for a walk, walk
around or go for a jog orsomething.
Don't sit at the desk becauseyou're mentally in this sort of
cave, aren't you?
You're just in this building.
You haven't seen the sunlight,you haven't been outside.
You do need to get out just toget your lunchtime.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It helps with a bit of a creativity reset as well.
You're just staring at thescreen and you're thinking about
other things.
If you just go for a walk, Imean maybe just once, quick
around the block, you think Ihaven't got time for that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You have to make time in mental, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You have to.
It's really important.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And also adjust your eyes.
If you're staring, it candamage your eyes.
Staring, focusing, fall.
There's a lot of street tipsthat you can if you walk away
from your desk, Look at a pointthat's further than 20 meters
and then look at a point that islike 1 meter so you can focus
and that also helps to ease thestress on your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Your eyes used to work again.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So standing in front of a screen that's shining into
your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's interesting, that catchphrase of I haven't
got time, how do we make time?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I just get up and go, do you yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I always say you have time for what's important and
you know you have time.
You have the choice to makewhen you either have time to
answer that phone call.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You have time to send that email.
You've just not chosen it oversomething else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So it's not that you haven't had time, you haven't
chosen that as a priority.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I agree yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So yeah, that's a bug bit of a lie.
I didn't have time to do that.
I was so busy I didn't havetime to call you back.
No, you did.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
But you chose not to.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
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Hi Crowdy, how do you balancework and personal life without
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compromising your output, workand family time at home?
Thank you.
We've had quite a few questionsabout health and wellness and
work-life balance.
This one around compromisingthe output is interesting
because I guess what they'retrying to say is how can I still
have a personal life and stillget the job done?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Done yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think the focus there is.
You maybe been putting too muchof your eggs into one basket
into work and now you'verealized you actually want your
personal life back, yet youstill want to deliver what you
were delivering when you had allthe eggs in the basket.
There's a transition period,isn't there?
(17:12):
You need to communicate that Inow need to leave at 4 or 5
o'clock because I need to get tothis class that I'm really
interested in and it's going tobe really beneficial to me.
In the end, I need to go tothis, whatever it is, at 5
o'clock every Thursday.
First of all, have thatconversation, be open and honest
with yourself and with yourmanager or with your
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organization, and come up with asolution.
However, I can still deliverwhat you're asking me to deliver
.
It's not going to have aneffect on my output.
How is it not going to have aneffect on your output?
Staying organized?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Staying organized?
Yeah, using software that wediscussed, software the focus,
losing the software to help you.
I mean, this is where the wholeAI thing comes in.
We all just transitioning fromto this work-life balance
Embracing the AI.
This is where it's all going tobe filling these questions and
answering this sort ofinformation, because this is
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what's going to help.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So it's going to be freeing up our time.
So, if not to do somethingproduct-related at work, it's
going to be freeing up your timeto do something for yourself.
And remember, bring it all theway back to health awareness
first.
See if there is a wellnessinitiative at work, see if you
can tap into that, maybe becomea member of it, be on the board.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
On the committee.
You can do a lot of EAcommunities.
You can sort of train them todo wellness and yoga and to push
out company messages.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Understand what the company directive is with health
and wellness.
What are their priorities?
What are they trying to pushacross?
Some of them might not behealth and wellness-orientated
at all which is a bit sad.
Not all companies are, I mean alot are focused and they
realize that people are mostimportant.
People first, and then all thebusiness and sales and
(19:02):
development comes naturally.
They're not all companies, no,so understand if that's the type
of company you're working forPeople have worked before.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are they focused on employee well-being?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right, they're focused on numbers and getting
the finance up and not focusingon the people working with them.
Yeah, and if?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
that's not working for you anymore.
Remember, we can go back to ourprevious episodes for you to
listen to where you need tounderstand if this is where you
want to be long term.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
When is it time to move on?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And if your work life harmony is not in line with
your company ethos, maybe that'sa good time to start assessing.
Have they got my best interestsat home as an employee?
Yeah, Am I able to comfortablyask is it okay if I go to a yoga
?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
class yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It sounds ridiculous when I say it out, loud, but you
should be able to.
You should be able to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's like asking your parents for permission, but it
should be.
I mean, I understand if you'regoing to be working or doing
something on company's time, butyou make it the other ways,
like coming in a little bitearlier to do that.
I mean that sort ofself-explanatory, absolutely not
saying undercut your hoursevery week.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Again, flexible work.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Flexible working hours.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Flexible working hours for me, flexible working
is the gateway to my wellness,because I just feel more in
control and my output is higher.
It's better.
I'm where I want to be.
I don't want to be stuck on atrain commuting two hours each
way, stressed and wonderingwhether trains are actually
working tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And it's cost as well .
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Cost?
Yeah, everything it all comesin full circle and kind of
overlaps into health well-being.
Am I in the right environment?
Is the company all for me andwith me?
Does that in turn give me thework-life harmony that I'm
looking for?
But you first, yeah you first.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Your health comes first.
When your health goes down,nobody's going to be there.
So you need to be able to gethealthy and get to the right
point.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So to answer that question, how do you balance?
I think you've just got to takestock and have a bit of a
self-assessment.
Oh, what is it that's currentlystopping you?
What is it that is feelingyou're compromising on your
quality of output work?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It could be as simple as just.
You're focusing on the wrongthing at work, you are getting a
little waylaid, you're gettingdistracted.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm not focusing.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, you're not focused on the task.
Maybe your distractions arepeople coming up to you in the
office.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Can you just yeah, Just a minute.
Wait a minute can?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I just ask you, it might be all of those.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm so stressful, I'm so stressed.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm just concentrating here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
So the great thing I do is I just shove in my
headphones and then when theywalk, it's like are you on the
call?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's like hey, I'm not, I'm just turning to work.
Send me a message.
Send me a message.
So figure out what it is thatyou feel is making you feel that
you're compromising on output.
Yeah, and communicate.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And communicate with your boss or HR, or have a
conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Join a health awareness program that may be
loosely associated with youremployee benefits and perks.
That you might not haverealized, but do get in touch
with us if you feel that you'vegot something to add as well.
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Files Episode 5,.
In this episode, we are goingto talk about how can
administrative assistantsachieve a better work-life
balance.
Without you, there is notomorrow, and without you, there
is no tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's difficult because we do everything.
How can you do balanced?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I know I don't like the idea of a balanced.
It was recently pointed out tome in a webinar that if you
think of a balance as a scale ora seesaw, one's up one's down.
And it's really difficult toachieve.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
So how's that balanced?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That equilibrium of the middle ground, because
you're going to make one tiptoestep and you're going to throw
the other side off.
It's really I don't know if youcan achieve a harmonious
balance as such, but there arestrategies and coping skills
that we can talk about that helpyou inch towards making sure
(01:32):
you're not just living to work.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yes.
So what does it mean to youbeing a better work-life balance
?
I mean, you've got somechildren and so you've got to
work, you've got to pick up thekids, you've got to drop them
off, so how's that for you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, it's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Women have been doing this for years anyway, so
there's nothing new for you.
Multitask we're definitely goodat multitasking, and keeping
all balls up in the air anyway,exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So that's not a big deal for me, but it does add to
sort of the complexities of myday.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Let's say that I've achieved a much better work-life
balance since the whole workfrom home situation.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Oh, definitely, oh yes.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I am grateful, in a sense of lockdown coming at a
time it did I mean health issuesaside yeah that's a completely
different thing, but thepositives of this worldwide
complete shutdown has meant thatmy role, our role, has been
highlighted as a much moreflexible role than it used to be
(02:34):
considered.
So the working from home andused to be frowned upon.
Bums need to be on seats.
You need to be visible.
You need to be by a printer.
I'm afraid you need to makesure if anyone needs anything.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You need to be right there to get in something, so I
was really pleased that whenlockdown happened that we were
all working from home.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It was a bit like, see, we can do it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, we can do it at home and do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
The company's still functioning, yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Some of them still want us to go back five days a
week.
I think it's unrealistic.
I think times are changing.
Technology is coming forward.
As we've been speaking thewhole season.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think now it's more two days in the office and it's
more of a catch up with yourworkmates and networking.
For example, if I go into theoffice, I know that if my boss
is there, I've got to be inthere.
If he's the only guy for twodays, I'm going to be in there
for two days, but if I'm goingto go when he's not there, other
partners tend to use me becausetheir EAs are at home and
(03:34):
there's.
Oh, my EAs are not here.
Would you be able to print this?
Would you be able to bound it?
Would you be able to do this?
So it's that sort of I'm goingto stay at home when he's
staying home.
So they're going to balance.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I mean whatever works for the business.
I don't agree with the wholeattitude of you've had your fun,
get back to the office theworld has changed permanently.
It wasn't just a flittingmoment where we had to put a few
measures in and now, okay,everyone go back to normal.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah.
There is no normal we have anew normal as we keep getting
quoted.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
This is the new normal.
Yeah, there are lots of issuesaround going back to the office.
I understand cities andinfrastructure, public transport
needs to be supported, but Idon't necessarily feel that you
have to be in work five days aweek.
I don't believe in the officeor company culture being
(04:24):
centered around people in theoffice.
If the company culture wasn'tthere in the first place, it's
not going to be there now justbecause you're dragging people
into the office unnecessarily.
Exactly, we can be a lot moreproductive at home.
Me personally, I can.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I'd be too.
I'd be too.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
So people love to be amongst other people but now
I've had two sides.
Before lockdown.
I used to like being withpeople chatting here in the buzz
.
Me too yeah, often like workingwith a radio.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now I need to be inside them and then I can crack
on a lot, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Focus.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, so things have changed permanently.
So, therefore, work lifebalance, work life has changed
permanently, yeah.
So understanding that now meansfor you and I think it
highlighted during lockdown whatis important in your life and
it is being, you know, reallyhealthy, healthy friends of
(05:18):
family, family, yeah, yeah it'ssort of shifted.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
This is the benefit shift.
Now it's more.
I am focusing on me now andalso with working from home, and
even though you need to havebreaks in between your work to
take your mind off, just toreset yourself, I thought of
popping the washing on and justgetting them out and hanging
them up.
And as I'm hanging up thewashing, okay, I need to send
that email.
I need to do that.
(05:42):
So I'm away from the computerbut also sort of dreaming Still
thinking.
Still thinking, still workingand also putting on a meal like
cooking roast chicken, pop thatin the oven, there you go, put
it down slow cook, all that sortof stuff.
I think it's back.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That is very personal to you, but it does highlight
the fact that when we're in theoffice, those things were still
going through our mind.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah.
But that anxiety of oh gosh, Ineed to get home.
I need to do all these thingsbetween five and six.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, there's so many things I need to cram in
between five, seven or five andeight.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And if you want small kids, it's also I need to feed
them at the bottom.
Get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, I mean there's going to be.
If you haven't got children,there's going to be pets,
there's going to be dependents,there's going to be family.
That why your time elsewhere oryour leisure might be a club or
a hobby that you need to gethome to.
So the whole lockdown thing wasa good thing for me.
It reset the balance, it resetthe scales and I now know and
(06:41):
I've been forced intounderstanding what my learning
style is, what's important to meand what I will and will not
tolerate or can accept anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, and also I'm thinking more of my sort of
taking care of physical mentalhealth, going to the gym during,
like, oh, instead of lunch time, there's a gym across the road,
I can take a nap.
I will just go have my lunch,go do that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it's really important.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's important to me your first, because when you
come back from the gym you'reall still wet.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It's hard to just sling off as well in the office.
What?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
time, have you come?
Yeah, I'm on my lunch break.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, offices are a funny environment.
It's like being in a goldfishbowl.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I'm just worried about who's watching.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
what are they thinking?
But, ultimately, we have got tothink about what is good for us
, what's good for our healthphysical and mental health and
achieving that.
You need to be realistic andhonest, honest, honest.
You can take the transparentwith yourself first of all,
before you have anyconversations of this is how I
like to work.
(07:42):
Does the company support this?
Ask questions.
Yeah, what is the company'sstance on work-life balance?
What systems or initiatives doyou have in place to promote a
healthy work-life balance?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's not a balance, no it shouldn't be balance in
the two?
Your life should come first.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
First, yeah, but we can kind of mix this advice in
and share in this knowledge inwith learning and embracing new
tech to achieve the work ofharmony, let's say streamlining
processes efficiencies, freeingup your time, yeah.
So we spoke about timemanagement and how long it can
take doing the traditional routeof booking meetings with other
(08:23):
EAs.
We need to set this meeting up.
Is so and so free on Tuesday atfive?
No, he's not, but he's freethis time.
You can use those new apps andsoftware add-ons you might
already have them licensed tothe company, you haven't asked
enough questions yet and usethose power-ups or those extra
(08:44):
add-ons to outlook.
Find time.
Every single one of these timesaving or streamlining
productivity app can help usachieve our work life harmony.
So one supports the other, theother one supports the other.
So we need both in our life tosupport our desired outcome in
(09:05):
life.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It might be your mortgage or your hobby.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Going on a cruise.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Here we go.
It's getting personal.
Now.
That's what it worked for.
It's got a fit, hasn't?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
it, it has yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So what you do needs to support what you want.
Exactly Having thoseconversations with yourself and
understanding what your driversare.
How do you want to balance yourwork and your life?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And this is probably something you need to speak with
your boss Sit down and say thisis what I want to do.
I'll do this.
It's setting boundaries andpriorities, praying yourself in
the front and set off puttingothers before you.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Which is difficult with us, isn't?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
it yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As a profession is because we're always known as
supporting others Things Don'treally like, you know we are
that skill?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
We are team member.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
No, we're the skillful profession in its own
right.
We're not just a proper team,just supporting other people to
be successful, even though,ultimately, driving the business
goals forward and personalgoals and achievements is what
we do.
It's not just about otherpeople.
You might want to refresh aconversation with HR and maybe
(10:15):
people culture whatever they'recalled to understand your
company rewards and benefits.
There might be something thereyou've forgotten about maybe
some healthcare add-ons forcounselling, some gym membership
, some membership that'saffiliated to all of the company
benefits, which might help youin turn, balance the harmony of
(10:38):
work and life.
It might give you some newideas of how you can best use
the company benefits and perksand rewards.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
What about the?
Can you do this?
I need it now.
It has extra work.
Don't be afraid to say no, Ifind that.
How urgent is this?
Can I do this tomorrow, becauseI'm really busy in that?
So, I think, standing yourground and your boundaries, as
we talked about earlier, I thinkthat's something also, but you
don't want to say no.
I'm always saying yes toeverything.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We do tend to say yes , but we do need to be clear.
If I say yes, what do you wantme to put to the sideline?
Well, you've asked me to do allof this by the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Which is more important?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah out of the 10,.
What three do you want donetoday?
Because I also need to go homeand do some personal things.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, I slowly have to go.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I'm not saying it's easy, but it's finding those
words and having thatrelationship at the beginning
with your executive or yourmanager.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And if you're able to delegate, that's another thing.
If you're like part of a teamand say, well, would you be able
to do this, because you're goodat that and I can work on this,
and therefore we can get thejob done.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, delegation is great.
I mean, there's a lot of EAsand PAs and definitely well, vas
for sure that don't have thebenefit of having a team to
delegate.
So leaning on being veryproficient with your time, being
strict with your own timehaving that cut off and that
boundary, to say that theforefront of the employment or
the assignment I work thesehours.
(12:08):
I mean if it's just letting youknow, if it's one off.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
for example, this client needs to document at six
o'clock.
Everybody's all hands on deck,they're all doing it, but if
it's every day, then you workinto a class.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
They are situations.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I'm not saying that it's five o'clock, it's in my
sort of contract.
I'm leaving up that's a bit nona team player, so you need to
say, ok, I can help you.
But if I've worked three hoursover time, can I come in a
little bit later because I haveto drop my kids off and I have
to do this or stuff.
So there should be a compromiseby the company and the worker.
And also, if you're going tohave lunch, don't sit at your
(12:43):
desk because you need to getyour desk.
Somebody will come get out ofthe office, go for a walk, walk
around or go for a jog orsomething.
Don't sit at the desk becauseyou're mentally in this sort of
cave, aren't you?
You're just in this building.
You haven't seen the sunlight,you haven't been outside.
You do need to get out just toget your lunchtime.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It helps with a bit of a creativity reset as well.
You're just staring at thescreen and you're thinking about
other things.
If you just go for a walk, Imean maybe just once, quick
around the block, you think Ihaven't got time for that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You have to make time in mental, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You have to.
It's really important.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And also adjust your eyes.
If you're staring, it candamage your eyes.
Staring, focusing, fall.
There's a lot of street tipsthat you can if you walk away
from your desk, Look at a pointthat's further than 20 meters
and then look at a point that islike 1 meter so you can focus
and that also helps to ease thestress on your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Your eyes used to work again.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So standing in front of a screen that's shining into
your eyes.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
That's interesting, that catchphrase of I haven't
got time, how do we make time?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I just get up and go, do you yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I always say you have time for what's important and
you know you have time.
You have the choice to makewhen you either have time to
answer that phone call.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You have time to send that email.
You've just not chosen it oversomething else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So it's not that you haven't had time, you haven't
chosen that as a priority.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I agree yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So yeah, that's a bug bit of a lie.
I didn't have time to do that.
I was so busy I didn't havetime to call you back.
No, you did.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
But you chose not to.
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Hi Crowdy, how do you balancework and personal life without
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compromising your output, workand family time at home?
Thank you.
We've had quite a few questionsabout health and wellness and
work-life balance.
This one around compromisingthe output is interesting
because I guess what they'retrying to say is how can I still
have a personal life and stillget the job done?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Done yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I think the focus there is.
You maybe been putting too muchof your eggs into one basket
into work and now you'verealized you actually want your
personal life back, yet youstill want to deliver what you
were delivering when you had allthe eggs in the basket.
There's a transition period,isn't there?
(17:12):
You need to communicate that Inow need to leave at 4 or 5
o'clock because I need to get tothis class that I'm really
interested in and it's going tobe really beneficial to me.
In the end, I need to go tothis, whatever it is, at 5
o'clock every Thursday.
First of all, have thatconversation, be open and honest
with yourself and with yourmanager or with your
(17:34):
organization, and come up with asolution.
However, I can still deliverwhat you're asking me to deliver
.
It's not going to have aneffect on my output.
How is it not going to have aneffect on your output?
Staying organized?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Staying organized?
Yeah, using software that wediscussed, software the focus,
losing the software to help you.
I mean, this is where the wholeAI thing comes in.
We all just transitioning fromto this work-life balance
Embracing the AI.
This is where it's all going tobe filling these questions and
answering this sort ofinformation, because this is
(18:07):
what's going to help.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So it's going to be freeing up our time.
So, if not to do somethingproduct-related at work, it's
going to be freeing up your timeto do something for yourself.
And remember, bring it all theway back to health awareness
first.
See if there is a wellnessinitiative at work, see if you
can tap into that, maybe becomea member of it, be on the board.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
On the committee.
You can do a lot of EAcommunities.
You can sort of train them todo wellness and yoga and to push
out company messages.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Understand what the company directive is with health
and wellness.
What are their priorities?
What are they trying to pushacross?
Some of them might not behealth and wellness-orientated
at all which is a bit sad.
Not all companies are, I mean alot are focused and they
realize that people are mostimportant.
People first, and then all thebusiness and sales and
(19:02):
development comes naturally.
They're not all companies, no,so understand if that's the type
of company you're working forPeople have worked before.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are they focused on employee well-being?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Right, they're focused on numbers and getting
the finance up and not focusingon the people working with them.
Yeah, and if?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
that's not working for you anymore.
Remember, we can go back to ourprevious episodes for you to
listen to where you need tounderstand if this is where you
want to be long term.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
When is it time to move on?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And if your work life harmony is not in line with
your company ethos, maybe that'sa good time to start assessing.
Have they got my best interestsat home as an employee?
Yeah, Am I able to comfortablyask is it okay if I go to a yoga
?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
class yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It sounds ridiculous when I say it out, loud, but you
should be able to.
You should be able to.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's like asking your parents for permission, but it
should be.
I mean, I understand if you'regoing to be working or doing
something on company's time, butyou make it the other ways,
like coming in a little bitearlier to do that.
I mean that sort ofself-explanatory, absolutely not
saying undercut your hoursevery week.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Again, flexible work.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Flexible working hours.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Flexible working hours for me, flexible working
is the gateway to my wellness,because I just feel more in
control and my output is higher.
It's better.
I'm where I want to be.
I don't want to be stuck on atrain commuting two hours each
way, stressed and wonderingwhether trains are actually
working tonight.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And it's cost as well .
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Cost?
Yeah, everything it all comesin full circle and kind of
overlaps into health well-being.
Am I in the right environment?
Is the company all for me andwith me?
Does that in turn give me thework-life harmony that I'm
looking for?
But you first, yeah you first.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Your health comes first.
When your health goes down,nobody's going to be there.
So you need to be able to gethealthy and get to the right
point.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So to answer that question, how do you balance?
I think you've just got to takestock and have a bit of a
self-assessment.
Oh, what is it that's currentlystopping you?
What is it that is feelingyou're compromising on your
quality of output work?
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It could be as simple as just.
You're focusing on the wrongthing at work, you are getting a
little waylaid, you're gettingdistracted.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'm not focusing.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, you're not focused on the task.
Maybe your distractions arepeople coming up to you in the
office.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Can you just yeah, Just a minute.
Wait a minute can?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I just ask you, it might be all of those.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm so stressful, I'm so stressed.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I'm just concentrating here, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
So the great thing I do is I just shove in my
headphones and then when theywalk, it's like are you on the
call?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It's like hey, I'm not, I'm just turning to work.
Send me a message.
Send me a message.
So figure out what it is thatyou feel is making you feel that
you're compromising on output.
Yeah, and communicate.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And communicate with your boss or HR, or have a
conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Join a health awareness program that may be
loosely associated with youremployee benefits and perks.
That you might not haverealized, but do get in touch
with us if you feel that you'vegot something to add as well.
We'd be really interested toknow if you have any other top
tips or a bit of a spin on thislistener question, and you can
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