The Hustle with Backwood Sweetie

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Jeff (00:00):
pace pace pace pace thank you for tuning in to another

(00:02):
episode of the culture withoutmade it to Episode 73 and
counting. I'm Jeff, you're atwas good

Jeff and Ant (00:12):
sounding when Alcoholics Anonymous get started
like, my name's Jeff Hi Jeff.
I've been sober for 18 months.

Jeff (00:19):
Um, so well I am a podcaster

I talk about my sobriety and how I'm getting my
shit together. All I can do isdude while looking at TV, and I
was just bugging about this grayunderside of my beard, like
adjustment commercial.

Jeff (00:33):
You know, I got that guy.
You know, I've got one of thoseboxes. I got to know in the
bathroom. I haven't even lookedat it. Like I was going through
a midlife crisis. I bought theshit, but I'm ready for that
ship my ship great lax.

Anthony (00:44):
I know. You're not great like me, because you
should

Jeff (00:47):
longer to look how I look how I shaved my shit because I
couldn't do it.

I shut down the old man debonair Spanish dude
look

Jeff (00:54):
I just got the was the great what do they call it the
shadow five o'clock shadow. Kindof look. That's what I left it
you know short enough like that?
Because Wi Fi likes it and cutit all off. But yes, as long as
you got the you got the Jim TheAnvil night Harsha going on?

Yeah, Gerber. Let it take that beard off and make
it this March.

Jeff (01:14):
Yeah, mandatory shout out.
Let me give a shout outs tothese Patreon 's Man. Should I
just give all the names or justthe specific ones that start
tripping about the names beingmentioned?

No, you give everybody No. You don't give you
preference? Like that's likesomeone in the grocery line?
Because like I've been here fortwo hours yet. One more minutes
on now. Everybody gets a shoutout.

Jeff (01:35):
Alright, so let's fucking let's start with the black, aka
Alex so say Helwig I'm gonnatell you these patriots to
change the names because they'regonna get as fucked up. Tax man
gonna come after us IRS is gonnabe not the Feds gonna be coming.

As long as somebody's like, yo, yo, my join
the tournament is long. LikeNah, you can't be a patron sign.
Because they don't know theydon't

Jeff (01:56):
think that the podcast is like a cleaning shift for some
drugs.

We had logged in and shit like, like, like, how
much did you make from patronfees last month? $360,000. Like,
really? Yeah, they really likeour show like, alright, we have
a new word for you. It's calledaudit. Come on down.

Jeff (02:17):
Shout out to Grand cause, aka Eric Nelson. Robledo. Thank
you. Oh, nine founder of Eric'scleaning services out of
Florida. Mm hmm. Melissa Camachoappreciate

macho Camacho.
Like the Puerto Rican boxer.
Yeah, dude.

Jeff (02:41):
He owed somebody money gun to that damn damn thing.

Somebody shot like I don't know. I just saved my
podcast outmatch with thisbullet? No. Can't do that when I
can. He's gonna make a littlecomeback but not

Jeff (02:55):
so shout out Natasha De La Rosa. Hey, she shares my last
name

as your second cousin

Jeff (03:03):
Mike schita resident guests appreciate you man. We're
gonna be doing on the side butwe're gonna have they're gonna
take our

resident guests local drug dealer one of

Jeff (03:14):
these days we go get a fucking letter in the mail. And
there's gonna be an indictmentthat we're gonna need you to
report to court.

No it's not nothing DMX ATF Do you know
Michael sheet did I know Mike?
See? I know Mike. You see

Jeff (03:30):
Mike get on the ground. I know a chef named Mikey. She got
a podcast shaaka him his wife.

He was checking up using a lot of baking soda. Come
with us sir.

Jeff (03:44):
Baking soda. I want baking soda.

Anthony (03:46):
Baking Soda. Baking soda.

Jeff (03:49):
Oh, and last but not least certainly not least, but he was
the last patron to sign up so hegoes last. Sebastian Santana,
aka Simba. Fucking lion, manSimba. The Lion King.

I hate that movie.
I hate that movie. No, youdon't? Yes I do.

Jeff (04:06):
Why? Because it gives you trauma who brings you down
brings me back to when you havebeef which a daddy assumption.

Dog in Africa Why does him before he from he's
from Southern California hesurfing. There was a mother or
father because it was

Jeff (04:20):
John at the exact time is doing his shit blonde white boy
with blue eyes.

They could get two brothers to be symbol and his
father Mufasa James Earl Jones,his mother's maiden clear his
mother. His mother father areboth from The Lion King from
coming to America even tellingme that they're all son is this
little blonde hair.

Jeff (04:41):
His father is one of the strongest black male voices in
the history of cinema.

His father is Darth Vader facts like yeah, I
got sound like gonna be simple.
And like I said, like, come onman. Scar went to let Simba
survive. Because if you if youkill the father, you have to To
the sun, because the sun willcome back and try to kill you
have they not watched

Jeff (05:03):
me? Damn, I know why is simple white boy I never thought
of that shit.

HK whole cast is full of different black people
and hey, and like I said when hewas younger I think what was the
Jason Weaver was the young boySimba singing the shit. Mm hmm.
And he's just can't wait to beking. We're gonna get older.
Now. Let me get to thewhiteboard

Jeff (05:20):
for what it's like the Ninja Turtles. Yo, he's more
focuses white boys. They had thefucking what was the dude?
Corey, Corey Feldman or CoreyHaim one of the main focus was
like one of his one of thevoices like these Ninja Turtles
ain't no white surfer dudes manfrom the sewers of New York City
thug Master Splinter herefucking rat be like ballbar

Come on man. Oh boy. All Ninja Turtles should be
wearing Tim's Easy. Easy all thefighting me doing man I'm doing
a shit barefooted Come on man.
Yeah, but there's some tensionkicking

Jeff (05:55):
they should be stopping foot soldiers out with fucking
terms yo

matching fact that they remove your browsing
interface be sick of him weadded here

Jeff (06:07):
but yo anyway yeah episode 73 Like I said we have a special
guests coming on today.
Backwards sweetie

NO NO NO Rambo. I couldn't maturity that way man
why because if there was likethis from the hood one of them
would try to fuck for April andnow I'm certain they would have

Jeff (06:20):
been your thing they would have probably didn't mean I
don't want to use the word rapebut you think they would have
tried to run churches or

not? Whatever you know, like Michelangelo like the
time like try to be like he wasgoofy try to be fly something
like that. raffia was too angryLeonardo was too literary and
Donnatella was too bright.

Jeff (06:36):
They're not he was too militant like yeah, we're gonna
practice all day every day or soMichael Jordan should

Donnatella was like their armor metadata like I
build you weapons.

Jeff (06:45):
Yeah, he was like, like the dude from Batman. What's his
name? Morgan Freeman. Character.
Yeah, Lucius Fox. He was lucid.

He was Lucius and basically like raffia like had
PTSD like he was like doing thewar he had daddy issues bro.

Jeff (06:58):
He just mad all the time.
Like still. Michelangelo wasjust the fucking party bumfuck
if anybody's a white whale it'dbe him

he the surfer dude Exactly. Like April was poppin I
see the city again don't deservea little turtle love rub my
shell that should have got weirdfor kids but i digress and

Jeff (07:16):
Splinter Splinter was the fucking was named Mr. Miyagi of
the crew

Splinter was Splinter was like the apartment
super in Brooklyn who's taughtit everybody should be there
like you know what man y'allgonna do? Which are going to do
man have fun? Ninja Turtlesright? But like anything was
splitting he poppin like, like,like an episode to come save
with and go back to what he'sdoing. Like Yeah, watch us run
the streets with us. You can'tsay Oh, live forever. Rats live

(07:43):
forever. Especially

Jeff (07:44):
sewer New York sewer rats.
Yeah,

exactly. He's all right. He didn't seem like good.
Come on, spend this joinsubmissions. Like no, no. He
ain't gonna buy us a train.
Everyone's gone. Or oh,

Jeff (07:55):
four we get our guests on.
I mean, yo, what's been going onthis week Kanye and Drake. Our
little, little charity event? Isit a safe?

Anthony (08:03):
Free Larry Hoover content.

Jeff (08:05):
Kinda goes in and tries to give us his his wife a shout out
tries to plead for forgiveness.

Anthony (08:11):
I want to brag I'm thirsty.

Jeff (08:13):
like, yo, yo, wait, hold on, man.

Anthony (08:15):
She don't love you.

Jeff (08:16):
She's with me. She's with Pete. Pete Davidson.

She repeat right now. Pete knocking the bottom
out of it. Man. You don't loveyou and tell

Jeff (08:23):
her jokes while he's doing it. Making her laugh.

And so big. She can't laugh them out. Like Nah,
that's not gonna work. Maybe

Jeff (08:30):
he was making her cry. He was making her angry. Just more
fun making her laugh bro.

bringing joy to her life man trying to give it
show the good parts of life youout here. Stressing out talking
about your kid. I'm like, shedon't love you, man. You know?
Jesse a juicy he not going tojail but found guilty. Yeah.

Jeff (08:50):
So what is it? What's the penalty for that?

I mean, he could get three it's not given three
anymore like you get we getprobation.

Jeff (08:56):
Supervised man. Listen, oh, his sister is now took over
as the famous person in ourfamily.

She bent she'd been the famous man. She'd been
a famous one since he was bio.

Jeff (09:06):
I mean, she was the little girl in what what show was she
on was family matters. She wasthe one that she wasn't
something she

should have shot back. But shoot but she said she
was a full house.

Jeff (09:17):
She was one of like Michelle's little friends from
school to some shit right?

Anthony (09:21):
will need girlfriend?
Yeah, she

Jeff (09:23):
was like the mandatory Negro friend that they had to
put to make the you know todiversify the showmanship

at low color girl.
But she's the more famous oneshe was just in the Harley Quinn
movie.

Jeff (09:35):
She was in that she was in the suburbs. She was um oh my
god.

Anthony (09:40):
I love the show. She

Jeff (09:41):
was in that show. Love country whatever.

Lovecraft country?
Yes. Now her brother and that'sthe whole thing her brother was
on some bullshit from the verybeginning. And you know what got
them jammed up in like but theprosecution did like really nail
it down is it was that but itwas a Subway sandwich.

Jeff (09:58):
What happened with that?
Okay,

I'm going to give you a scenario, right? You're
walking down the street andyou're in New Jersey. And you
say, I'm going to leave and I'mgoing to go to my house and I'm
going to go get a Subwaysandwich that says two blocks
away. That's one of the coldestnights in Jersey history, which
was in Chicago that day. Youcome out of there, and you get
attacked, and they beat the hellout of you. They throw bleach on

(10:21):
you, they wrap a noose aroundyour neck. After all that
happens, and they disappear.
What do you do?

Jeff (10:26):
You go to Subway to get a sandwich? Yeah. And they have
the receipt as proof of whattime you got there.

Let's let's say this. Let's say he got a
sandwich and then he gotattacked afterwards. That
sandwich would be would be inthe street. That sandwich
wouldn't be home with you.
Right? It's hard to beat my ass.
I'm not taking the sandwich homewith me like, and like I said
the thing like, if you had a newthing, like especially if you
like your black, I'm thinkingyou want to get it off your neck
as soon as possible. You don'tleave that shit on and walk the
fuck home. I'm getting any softimmediately like so. I feel bad

(10:54):
for the man but I just thinkit's career shot. Like I don't
think the Bible fuck with themanymore, which is the bad part
but kind of put it upon itself.
Don't lie to people just tellthem the truth even though like
it leaves us honest with them.

Jeff (11:06):
Where we're at, but yeah, let's take a quick break. When
we come back. We're gonna haveour special guests. I also want
to give a shout out to my cousinTommy he's out in Ohio man.
Shout out to him. Love you, boy.
We'll be right back

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Jeff (11:42):
yeah, they represent a culture that represent the
culture podcast. I we back wegot our special guests. She
hails out of Maryland. She's anunderground rapper. She's dope
as hell. newest album, her debutalbum is all available

(12:03):
everywhere. I personallylistened to it on title.
Christina Shantae we havebackwoods sweetie. Thank you for
joining us today.

Backwood sweetie (12:11):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Jeff (12:14):
Tell us a little bit about yourself. Oh, I've

been rapping since I was 13. But I've always
been a writer writing storiesand poetry that I originally
gotten to writing and recordingby way of my father who's a DJ.
He does my DJ studio, Matt,Mike, Mike. So that's how I got

(12:37):
into it. Or you guys had thecourage to get on the mic? Yeah.

Jeff (12:41):
Is it okay to x your age?
How old are you?

I'm 32.

Jeff (12:44):
Okay, that gives a certain unwritten rules about asking
women their age and theirweight. But like I heard you,
obviously we reviewed it on lastweek's episode. And we both
liked it. Now that you told methat your dad was a DJ I
wouldn't. I'm wondering if youget some of the influence from
him. Was he like a 90s DJ was helike boom bap, you know, I mean
that he grew up in that type ofenvironment.

Definitely.
Boom, bap 80s 90s He was the onewho bought me all my Tupac
albums, all my to pop novels,all the books on him. A lot of
Source magazine battles. Iforget what they call it
undesired heights on high,though, so he, he put me on to
all of those. And that's whatkind of got me into performing

(13:28):
and wanting to say the wordsthat I've written down you know
loud.

Jeff (13:35):
That's probably why we connect with your shit and why
we like to show you I mean,because we grew up obviously in
the East Coast northeastlistening to that boom bap, you
know, I mean, listening to theEast Coast shit. And I hear a
lot of that influence. And nowthat you mentioned Tupac, I hear
it. I hear him in your music.

You know, I'm saying he's definitely my my
favorite all time.

Jeff (13:53):
I mean, I guess beside what you mean, why? You heard
the album.

Don't I talking to you? I'm talking.

Why is he my favorite all time? Well, I mean,
some people say he's from NewYork, depending on who you're
talking to. You might be fromCalifornia. But he's my
favorite. Because he was thefirst he was my first rapper,
the most person who I fell inlove with as an artist and as a

(14:23):
poet. And to hear him contradicthimself in rap. You can talk
about women, you know, with ahigher standard and be able to,
you know, do the opposite andstill have that same impact.
Yes, he's always my favorite.
Yeah, I

think he was like the humanity of him. That
Exactly.

Being able to connect to his music, you know,
real world problems, real lifeproblems.

Jeff (14:53):
I think I think that's probably the biggest knock on
pot. You know what I'm saying?
That one, you know, he can do aBrenda's got a baby and The next
song could be I get around, youknow, I'm saying he's, you know,
using women as objects and shitlike that. Um, but like you
said, I guess that made him youknow, human right. But does the
fact that he grew up in Marylanddoes that have anything to do
with you know his influence onyou at least slightly?

No, I don't think I had anything to do with
it just the same. I can say thesame for limb bias. I have a
song called Lynnie on the album,and he's from my area from PG
County around here, LangleyPark. But it wasn't my idea to
do a song about limb bias, youknow, just because he's from
Maryland, somebody else, youknow, came to me with that

(15:37):
track. So,

Jeff (15:40):
and you have a big ass following on I mean, you have a
cold I don't want to get big,that's fine. But you have a cult
following on Twitter. And that'swhy I wanted to get you on if
you don't mind me reading atweet, a tweet that I got from
you probably notice individualrevolt records. He goes by the
name of revolt records onTwitter. And he said I'm one of
the things I find intriguingwith a music compared to her

(16:01):
peers. She doesn't sexualizeyourself like cardi or Megan or
Nicki or, you know, she lets herbar speak and lets her talent on
the mic shine through real rawHip Hop shit throwback to MC
Light and Lauryn Hill. But it'sall asks and tips and sex
visually and lyrically with amainstream peers, even other
underground female MCs leaningto the sex rap, because that's
what sells today. So I wanted toget your opinion on that. And,

(16:23):
you know, how does it feel tobe, you know, African American
woman in the game, not talkingabout sex, not in I mean, not
showing your ads and your testsand all of that. And just in
saying lyrics, I have content.

So just from listening to you as a podcast,
where you review my album, youknow, from what I could tell you
had listened to my previousmusic, the singles that I had
out, so if you listen to myolder songs, or even a mixtape I
did seven or eight years ago,you can hear how I've evolved,

(16:57):
where I'm okay with talkingabout my sexuality. And I've
done that, even in some morerecent songs before the album.
But it was important for me tonot lead with that for my debut
album. I just wanted to show myversatility and lead with that.
But I had no issue at alltalking about my sexuality or
rapping about rapping about mybody. Hmm.

Jeff (17:18):
So now we got to go back and listen to the old school
shit. You know, I mean, somelittle came on.

It's kind of the misogyny in hip hop that feel
that men can talk about theirsexual prowess, but women can't
act like women don't have sex,they can talk about it too. And
people get disgusted by Oh,they're doing this doing that,
like they've been doing it.
They're not like they're notnuns who rap. We have sex too.
They drink too. They do the samething that you quote unquote,
think men do like said. Peoplemake comments like that. always

(17:48):
laugh because I find it funnybecause they're thinking like,
well, she don't talk about sexand stuff. Like, yeah, it
doesn't mean that she doesn'tjust didn't catch it in this
version, but you might catch it,then. I appreciate I appreciate
your lyricism. I appreciate thethoughtfulness of how you
formulate and put your songstogether. You're not one of the
people like I know that youknow, cat rhymes with hat that

(18:11):
rhymes with act like none ofit's that's a fluency in a
fluidness to the way that youwrap that I do appreciate that I
don't get a lot like Jeff has tothink about all the new school
guys he just doesn't like thembecause they just get up get up
get up like there's nothing ofsubstance with them. It's It's
whatever the choice of the dayis, and it's kind of roll with

(18:33):
it. But yours has, like it's aheartfelt enough to I can tell
you put you put your shit intoit. Not a lot of people do. And
I don't think it's an age thing.
I just think of just you as aperformer. Like you said, your
parents like said I did not geta chance to listen to your
earlier. Previous things. Iapologize. But yeah, I did talk
about sex. I did talk about mysexuality, so on and so forth.

(18:55):
But like you said, you startedoff by saying about to pop
that's probably influenced, likeI there's a very broad spectrum
of humanity, that I do that I gothrough that you want to show
people experience and I thinkthey get a really good taste of
it on your new album.

Thank you. No, I do want to say that. You know,
I don't have any issue withwomen discussing their sexuality
or rapping about it, but I don'tlike when that's all that they
have. There is no, there's noclever bar. There's no thought
into it. It's just like you say,I'm gonna rhyme ass with cash.

(19:31):
Go from

Jeff (19:31):
there, but that's what I was gonna say to like, I don't
have a problem with that becauseI grew up listening to Little
Kim, you know, I'm saying FoxyBrown. They're very sexual. You
know, I'm saying yeah, I thinkLittle Kim is probably the
standard when it comes to youknow, sexualized rap. But I also
grew up with Lauryn Hill. Youknow what I mean? And I have her
at the top of the pedestal whenit comes to female rappers. You

(19:51):
know, say Queen Latifah. Here wego, come on and stop stop with
the shit.

Did you guys see my top 50 lists that I
posted on so What are the top 50Greatest Women Women in rap?

Jeff (20:06):
We're gonna get to your list because when we let me get
my hand sanitizer right nowthere's a whole month of
dedicating to females on whatwas it I told us and you know,
we did our list of favorite youknow, females I like I said, I
have Lauryn Hill up there. Hehas Missy at number one, which

(20:28):
is fine, but like he told youbefore my list wasn't an order
to run away. When I think aboutMCS and I just mail

it, please now don't cut No, please. He wasn't
enough.

I put myself in number one. So that's why I
think highly of myself. That'sbold

Jeff (20:48):
as cocky as shit, but hey, that's a hip hop being cocky.
But now but I listened to what Italk about my number my top
whether it's man or female, I'mlistening to lyrics. Like I
said, I'm not listening tobeats. They always get on NAS
about beats. I'm not listeningto none. And that's dope too,
that goes into that factors intoyou know, I mean, but I'm
listening to lyrics first andforemost. Can you tell a story?

(21:10):
Can you entertain? Can youchallenge me mentally, you know,
I'm saying, and when I waslistening to shit, I was like,
Yo, this shit is dope. Like Icould I could fuck with it. I
could listen to it multipletimes and have to break down the
lyrics and be like I did whatyou're talking about. This is
not no no Cat in the Hatbullshit, that

sometimes I listen to my own songs and catch
something that I said onaccident. You know, I wasn't
even intentional with the way Isaid it. Even the way in which I
aligned my tracks. You know, thenames of them when I go from
Justice forward a Garvey and youknow, his family is fighting for
justice right now. So I gotjustice for Garvey, you know, in

(21:47):
the way my tracklist goes, it'ssomething I noticed after after
the fact.

Jeff (21:51):
Now you have I heard the the 5% influence in your yo yo
album. Can you tell me what yourconnection is to the Five
Percenters?

I've just, I'm on a journey of on a search for
knowledge. This the past coupleof years, I feel like I've
gotten more into politics, andthat more into unlearning the
things that were wrong, thatI've learned growing up, and

(22:22):
just reevaluating everything inmy life. So the the influence is
knowledge and wanting to learnmore about my history about
myself, my family, thatknowledge of self embracing my
blackness. Exactly, exactly.

Jeff (22:38):
You know, obviously, growing up I had, you know, we
had no idea I didn't have noidea what 5% was, but now you
know, I start listening tolarger Mars and, you know,
obviously, I'm older now Iunderstand it more and I know
about it a little bit more. Youknow, you hear the rock cams.
And I go back and I'm like,damn, the Wu Tang lyrics make
more sense now. You know, WuTang, him the brand new beings.

(22:59):
You know what I'm saying? EvenErykah Badu you listen,

I was gonna say that next I was gonna say I
have those epiphanies when Ilistened to Erica now.

Jeff (23:06):
So now I have to go back and I got you. You mentioned to
pot books and stuff. I have theone book with the poetry What is
it the rose that grew fromconcrete? So I have that one.
And I have like two Wu Tangbooks. And you know, you listen,
you read the books, and you haveto go back and listen to their
lyrics because now youunderstand them better. You
know, you don't know whatthey're talking about. Back

(23:27):
then. There was it was justwords. It just sounded dope. You
know, see Cypher punks. It'stalking about ciphers and
ciphers. And you know, you'rejust thinking about a circle.
Everybody's rapping. But that'snot what they're talking about
when they talk about ciphers.
You know what I mean? When itwas important

for me to have rock came on, on the album, I
have a track 11 Doing aninterlude. You know, just kind
of showing me love give mepraise and praise in the album,
and praise and the journey thatI'm on I think it was important
to have him on to show that I dohave guidance that I'm not just,
you know, spewing shit off theinternet. And that I have

(24:01):
somebody helping me along myjourney.

Jeff (24:04):
Yeah, that's dope. I want to see you maybe jump on with
blackdot Yo, if that's evenpossible at all that she will be
if you don't know if you heardsaw rocks last album, and she
has blackdot on one of them sitsand that's it.

I've heard her album I don't know if I heard
that specific track. Definitelypull it

Jeff (24:21):
out because you reached out to Anthony we talked about
in the last episode like youreminded me of her when I was
listening to you. It's likeunderground, conscious and
lyrical. All in one with alittle bit of Lauren in it. A
little bit of blackdot and alittle bit all that shit in it.
And what are you smiling

when I when I hear myself? I think of Lauryn
Hill and Little Kim. I thinkkind of nice style. Let's have
them both.

Jeff (24:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to have to listen to OSHA because I
hidden a little camera, thelatest. Best to

send you an old mixtape

Jeff (25:00):
Get off. Yeah. Now what are you talking about?
acitivities and you

don't even hit a Saudi he won't be disgustedly.

Look. I'm a smoker so I made a lot of
smoking songs so you kind of getthat

shit. I was gonna ask was the backward like, could
you in a country or backward asbad as the rolling paper you

look at my background I look like I'm in a
backwards right now.

Jeff (25:29):
She named it after the Rolling Papers, but I know

my name was previously Dutchess I was
Duchess when I started out. Andthen people started calling me
Yeah, people started calling medieci. So I evolved and had
their comeback and rebrandmyself and reintroduce myself
and that's why I did a selftitled debut, you know, to
reintroduce myself.

Anthony (25:50):
Alicia light that she's okay.

Jeff (25:54):
What's your favorite song on this album? Yep. And why?

My favorite song? I think Starfire is my
favorite song. It was one thatwas unexpected. It was a
different genre for me. I hadnever heard of nerdcore before
we went out of the funk, right?
Yeah, that's track nine. Andthat's the only woman producer
on the album. I actually was inthe same space with her over the

(26:21):
summer. We didn't know eachother at the time. But we were
both at Comic Con at Blair conin Virginia. And I'm a big fan
of comics, comic books. I did acosplay played over the summer.
I was cosplaying as Starfire.
You know, and I started, youknow, just kind of playing
around with ideas in my head. Iwent to a panel at Blair con,

(26:45):
where they talked about thegenre talk about nerd core and
just kind of blew my mind and Istarted to look into nerdcore
type beats. So I can all bestars and I found a beat called
Starfire. And it's made byarcade, the sage, and she was at
Blair calm with me. You know,that's what I found out after
the fact. But, you know, endedup with this dope song like

(27:06):
this. I definitely say that.
That's my favorite one.

Jeff (27:08):
I mean, the beat is definitely not hip hop.
made it worse. I thought aboutlast week, I said Yo, some of
the beats are unorthodox. Someof them

are borderline rock futz with it. But she made
it. I got a bad title. I gotyou. I got you.

And I actually just got some some merchandise,
a Bluetooth speaker hoodies andall that stuff with some
Starfire and bordie. Wereembroidered hoodies all of that
stuff, all that good stuff.

Jeff (27:40):
Send me the link to that I'll post it on. I will.

How do you how important you think Brian is
going to be for the next part ofyour career.

I think brandy and definitely visuals are
really important. I think when Ifirst started out and I first
started recording and doingshows and all of that were I
lacked were visuals. I havemaybe one video on YouTube and
that was seven or eight yearsago, so I'm lacking there. A lot
of people didn't know what Ilook like, you know, they've

(28:08):
heard the music and just had noidea who I was. So that's
definitely important. Lettingpeople and letting them know who
I am. You know, getting to knowme and I also think that these
interviews are you know, helpingas well.

Didn't have to see you could have been like the her
rap or like the new MF doing.
Like with the magic sauceplaying everywhere. Yeah. Like
every every, every every show.
She's in a different coffeehouse. I'm like, What are you
last time?

That's not That's not a bad idea.

We got to get credit for that. If you ever go
down to Lady Gaga, show up andgo to one Childress like Chung
Lee. Like like basically everyMarvel she'd come like she could
be both black widows. She couldbe Sheree every

summer now yeah,

Jeff (29:01):
I'm different. Yeah, you could beat a female doom. No,
you could just show up and maskyo. Yeah. It'll be dope. Because
that's gonna force people tohave to listen to you. You know
what I'm saying? Yeah, you'renot gonna have to be about what
you look like a ship.

It's important though. I mean, I hate the
sexism right? But it's soimportant like, for women to
succeed you have to look aparticular way like, like even
with Lauryn Hill. Like there's acrafted image behind it. It's
it's it's supposed to be kind ofBohemian urban to a degree like
all her shows in our outfits.
Like you don't see Laurenwearing sweats, right like just
just chillin. It's always like,same thing like I don't see

(29:36):
Erykah Badu I hear just kickinit without a hit rap from time
to time, but that's part of theimage that she has to procure it
for people to kind of get drawnin. And I'm saying if it's
something that you're passionateabout, especially like, you
know, cosplay and stuff likethat, there's a, as you know,
there are memes of people outthere that just interested in
that, like, she's a cosplayerwho happened to be really,
really, really good at thisratchet. I just want 10% When

(29:57):
you do it Just a little bit, nottoo big.

Jeff (30:03):
But yeah, the visual shit I learned about it obviously
doing this whole podcast and youknow, I've started opening up,
you know, fucking tick tockpages and different because
people want to see shit, youknow what I'm saying? But

yeah, I know they want to see me in a studio
and saying what I'm working onand things like that. And I
think that's my next move, justletting people in more, you
know, I mean, like I said, I dothis for the culture for the
people, you know, I gotta letthe people in.

So we're when people request that, like, you
know, like, if you if youprocure an artist to make a
piece of art, you don't want todo a pitch and every time we
make a brushstroke, like liketrust the process like at the
end, this is gonna be

Jeff (30:40):
you could give them like little clips on Instagram, you
know, little couple minutes.
She's in the booth doing it I'msaying, and people start geeking
out.

They like I don't like that lyric. Once you talk
like, did this shit. Let me letme let me stay in my zone. Do
what I got to do. Yeah, I mean,dude, you're here. You're gonna
love once you enable

Jeff (30:55):
the comment.

Everything just like the possibilities are
endless. So many ideas. Goodideas from you all and

oh, we got to come out of here

Jeff (31:15):
the Dallas Cowboys. Were Giants fans over here.

We all can't be on the same team.

Jeff (31:25):
Even from Texas, though.

It's gotta be should I be a raven?

Jeff (31:32):
Yes. You follow my rules?

Where did you find her on? Where did you find her
Twitter?

MC who's a Cowboys?

Cowboys denature profile. Don't put it up there.
Like, like no,

Jeff (31:50):
maybe she has a good reason to I can't even call
cowboy fans bandwagons becausethey haven't even been good for
a long time. You know I'm sayingso she probably has a good
reason for being a Cowboys fan.
Maybe that's true. Her dad grewup liking I don't care.

I don't care cancel backwards. Backwards.
Come on, go back to White House.

Jeff (32:11):
They don't burn correct bring.

Bring back Philly blunts brings back Philly blunts
the backward.

Yo, I think everybody needs a little
backwards a little bit.

Jeff (32:24):
Yo, besides obviously your dad's influence and Tupac what
inspires you to rap?

Oh, I definitely feel like words.
Words give power. I really lovewriting poetry and writing
stories and being able to bringthem to life. It's just exciting
for me. I just have fun doingit. And I think that my sound is
really nice. I'm really pleasedwith how I sound on the mic.

Jeff (32:48):
Acoustically. She likes to Alright, we're gonna get into
these tops. First I'm gonna letyou talk about your top females
and we're just gonna do the topfive you're gonna you might have
to put some type of order tothem. Yeah,

Anthony (33:02):
let's do backward backward and nylon.

For myself, I really love see Heather be huh
lol Kim. Queen Latifah Radhikathat's fine Foxy Brown with a
five and I say fast. I excludedmyself

Jeff (33:23):
so Heather be Foxy?

Lo Kim. Queen Latifah and Radhika that's your
fun. Those are my top five fromme growing up in the 90s You
know the first women MCs that Iwas introduced to if I go a step
further, I'd say Lauryn Hill. Imight not have put her in the
immediate top five because shesings to I'm not gonna take away

(33:47):
from her being a MC. But that'swhat

Jeff (33:51):
you said. Lauren reminds you of you when you when you
hear yourself you you remindyourself of Lauren

I can't sing.
Perhaps though, a little bit. Isang a little bit on God
particle. But I'm not a singertime because I think that her
sound is similar to

Jeff (34:10):
mine. I'm tired of people telling me and arguing with me
that Lauren is not a rapper, orthat the message or that The
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill isnot considered a rap album,
because half of it is singing.
Yo, she's a fucking rapper, andThe Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
to me is a top five album of alltime. I don't give a fuck, man.
I agree. But I have thisargument all day. Like nah, she

(34:31):
sings a lot. I can't put it upthere.

I have about Drake, not about Lauryn Hill.
Okay, same feelings. I liked himmore as a singer.

Jeff (34:45):
Yeah, I don't Drake is not in my top 50 at all. Yeah,
doesn't write his own lyrics.
Aubrey is not up there. He's notin your Top 50 Top 50 Top 50

a tough Yeah.
Absolutely, top 50

Jeff (35:02):
Drake has not been there's too many paths in no

top 25 No but top 50 Yeah, he got to be

Drake so my top 100 But I can think of 50
great rappers that have enjoyed

this interview right now well I care if one
three times put them up thereand couldn't have not shut off.

Jeff (35:23):
There's been so many rappers bro Drake is just not
going to make. And I couldprobably give you 35 Or just
from New York. You know, I meanwhat I'm even going to sound for
California

zsC his issue is going to run into it's, you have
to kind of whenever there's likedeadlifts like this, you have to
be very, very specific about thefactors that you're using.
Because the fact that you'regoing to completely shift your
list. Like you're talking aboutliteral like success in hip hop,
probably in the top two.

Jeff (35:53):
That's a different list.

No, but I'm saying because he raps but he's a
rapper successful. How did hedid he raps? But he successfully
cheated. So it's kind of how youdo it. lyricism No, Drake's not
gonna be up there. But as inlike, the ability to move the
culture for like, say it waskind of dead for a while, like
it wouldn't survive without him.
Kendrick and Cole, like thoselike the three pillars of this,
of this eras point of hip hop,they needed those Drake

Jeff (36:19):
Drake wouldn't be shit without Lil Wayne, and you could
probably put little Wayne in thetop 50 Not Drake.

Yeah, but everybody every era of rap,
there's always some lover man inthere.

It's always Drake and calling out bars from
other artists. I don't like thatshit.

Like, the newer Drake No, but early Drake so far
gone when he was just rappingwas really good. But now he
makes a mistake. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, nothing was ever likeearly, early Drake like we just
out of Toronto. What's the jointwhen I'm when he just flown over
to the Congo say you will be.
And he just he just he's notstopped just going like, that's

(36:56):
the tricky one. But once youmake, you know, $100 million,
you You ain't that personable?
And I understand that. Could youtell him to a whole different
audience. You're no longer a hiphop rap star, you know, a pop
star. Once you get into thatlane, because those bags are
bigger. You got to make somecompromises and I get it. That's
why That's why he's made moremoney than Wayne even Wayne's by
far a better rapper and he'sbeen in the game longer just how

(37:18):
it goes.

Jeff (37:20):
He's also I agree with that. But check it out. One of
the criterias if you're going totalk about any list one of the
criterias has to be no matterwho's making a list has to be
you write your own lyrics. Ifthere's any question of whether
you write it you got to beautomatically eliminated in my
those are my rules. I feel likePuff Daddy Drake Eazy E I've

(37:40):
seen people play easy in the topfive and he admits it he's the
only rap I've ever heard that isactually admitted it on a song
that he doesn't write his ownshit. Ice Cube writes the shirt
that I say like he said it on afucking song. So to me you're
automatically eliminated.

But again like I said, it's the weird thing so if
you're saying that as going tobe a context where you put the
DLC did not because NW he wrotehe wrote all of this shit and
they won't deny it was an IC DLCand Q Right? It was DLC and cube
they were doing all the rightall address shit. DLC,

Jeff (38:11):
right? I don't know about DLC. Cube should be in
everybody's top. Maybe 30 If nottop 20

I think that's I think matter often changes but
what stays the same or to POCScarface? Nah, so

Jeff (38:25):
let's get into your top five men that roll up

to POC Starface NAS and then I gotta
start thinking Naka say Jay ZJSY who else would I say? Jays I
would say Devin the dude wow

I know you're freaked me out his pimp see
that's my new job because you'reCali dude oh by kid Devin The
dude is fire

So Devin in Wiz Khalifa you know, listening
to them and you know coming upwith my smoking songs that that
was the influence there Ilistened to a lot of Devin
growing up Devin and three sixmafia. So the versus you know,
here you got to talk about theversus was cool. Versus vs
Muslim was interested in

Anthony (39:16):
Delta negotiate airborne.

I said, oh boy, like you asked about. A lot
of people talked about thefight. But what caught my
attention during the verses wasthe very beginning. Right after
the tribute for Virgil and foradults, the moment of silence
and right after that they bringout little pootie I think the

(39:37):
whole song was violent. All ofhis gestures were violent. It
really took away from the momentof silence for me right and
that's where we now do the rest.
I leave the rest would be ashitshow after that.

What's the term?
Read the room? Yeah. Sorry aboutthese gentlemen, the one that
died of cancer when he died ofgun violence. Have your science
piece like, alright man backfuck it like, wait.

Jeff (40:05):
It reminds me of when Wu Tang did the moment of silence
for odb and estivo jumps on thestage but naked like yo dude was
sub.

He lucky he lives he's going that way but one died
that day quad was about to puthands on. Because it's not the
time like and that's thetroublesome thing. And there was
another thing that did come upon on the internet thing about a
week ago. And it was numberversus they asked what were your
three favorite verses of thisyear? So what are yours?

Jeff (40:33):
I'm gonna do Oh, the Dipset and locks. Oh, yeah,
probably number one. For me.

It could be any of them. Just just your bet your
favorite three.

Jeff (40:44):
I like I like the moniker and the brandy. I miss. I miss
the what you call it the KERSand Big Daddy Kane. Cash it was
entertaining.

That I think that was my favorite. That's not
the top for me. But I you know,I have to admit I miss I missed
quite a few of them. And I hopethat the last one was the last
one. Because that's

going to be more definitely not going to be more.
But I don't think they're goingto have more structure. Yeah,
what happened again?

Jeff (41:16):
Yeah, well, they're gonna have more sponsors and more
seracs and more liquors, youknow, the more sponsors they
get, you know, I'm saying themore structure they're gonna
have, you know, I mean, andeventually she's gonna probably
be on TV. They're not gonna bejust on you know, on thriller or
on Instagram. She's probablygonna be on HBO Warner Do you
know one of these years on PayPer View? How

I hope I know right? Okay, however, after the
last one, like

I don't I don't want it to be Instagram itself.
Is it big enough entity. I don'twant it to be on TV. I don't
want it to be pay per view. Likeit's because it'll be something
that everybody enjoys, like longas the money is wildly
different. But like, likenumber, I've never put them in
order but the maximum Snoopbecause now DMX is going in.

(42:00):
You're probably never gonna seehim perform ever. I mean,
whatever, but probably seeingthem two together in a row. I
mean, you're probably gonna seehim perform again. But like,
just having those two dudes in aroom together. Like, you just
you're not going to have thathappen. The ice is an Earth Wind
and Fire. I grew up in thatmusic so I mean, more than them
that's that's, that's hard forthem. And then I was gonna say

(42:23):
the locks and, and Dipset butthat was kind of a shitshow to
understanding like Jade is theone that pretty much saved it
was just Lily my brain. They had

Jeff (42:33):
to read a map but I don't even consider that a versus
bath. Not even a map. That wasjust it was during the bull
having a good time. Right? Whatabout the bobby brown

boxes? That one was good. It didn't make me
cringe at all. It was definitelyentertaining.

My third was go fix go facing right.

Jeff (42:49):
What about the Bobby Brown and what was the dude keeps what
keeps sweat?

Stop that. Stop stop stop. Stop that.

Jeff (42:57):
We're gonna have to do this. They're gonna have to do
this Missy and Buster shit.
That's the one that makes sense.

Let's see him back. Yeah, I think I saw the
idea floating around. Makessense. I wouldn't know what
woman to put up next to herthough.

I've been saying that for months. There's no one
that can stand in front of busesexcept for her. It sounds crazy.
But just like it's like peoplealways trying to match up mary j
with somebody said there'sreally no woman that you can
realistically get that can matchup with. She's done. But you put
Asscher against her network, butshe misses the female version of
Buster.

Jeff (43:26):
She's the animated female rapper. Like Buster is that
animated rapper? You know, Imean, misses the female animated
rapper. I get it. They'revisual. We got so many videos
and all of that. And theircatalogs and shit.

But Mary and Mariah could go toe to toe

Jeff (43:43):
we talked about writing all over. You ain't

too fancy. I'm sorry. Mariah put her in a body
bag.

Jeff (43:53):
Like how many how many married a body bag.

I love I love her but like I said it's different
because cuz me her had tocostume for two laps and Dipset
is something about being upthere and being able to perform
and when more are starting toget the singing and like getting
translate.

She got to do a Christmas night and she I

know because someone said they went to
Americana shows up. It's like 30minutes and she was out of the
house for this. Oh, no

Jeff (44:21):
shit. No, at least Laura Hill will show up at one in the
morning. But she'll perform foryou know, at least an hour.

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Please tell
her that story. Every time youbring it up.

Jeff (44:34):
I mean, a lot of people have the same story because
she's known for this. He's knownfor doing this shit. I went to
the meatpacking district in NewYork to see you know, Lauryn
Hill doors opened up at likeeight nine and they opened a
barn that's what they want and Imean the venue doesn't care
because you in essence eightnine just drinking drinking
buying shit at the ball. Lauriehailing show up to like one in

(44:56):
the morning. So imagine beingthere for like four hours. Just
drink and drink drinking andlistening to the DJ playing
whatever by the time she cameout everybody was just done and
falling asleep. And sheperformed from like one to two
piece. She showed up with kidsand everything was like damn
these kids have a bedtime sheshowed up with her little kids b

(45:19):
I was like, Yo, it's one in themorning. We've been here waiting
for you since 8pm Like fuck

yeah, I've never I've never been to the L
buggy show but that doesn't youknow that doesn't make me want
to go seek seek one out butagain

Jeff (45:32):
she's known for that that's why she said on her last
song was the song with NAS onthe last on the last night's
project. She finally came out ofhiding and she has a verse on it
and she says you know I'm savingso much I worry about my
lateness you know yeah cuz Imean shit

I pay for this you set him free Phil's later I pay
you for your presence like

Jeff (45:56):
I gotta go to work tomorrow morning like it's it's
3am

do themselves you guys have gotta go turn no cuz
they broke saved him for later.
You want money to help them?
Help us we paid you they canfeed the needy whatever.

Jeff (46:10):
Yeah, before I forget going back to that versus I
forgot to mention it before whothe hell was that white kid
there was this white boy just onthe stage? Just right in the
front just chillin the wholetime. Like, is that busy bones
son of some like does he havelike a half white baby or some
little white boy just standingthere the whole time on a

lot of people on the stage a lot going on a
lot going on in the background.
That's how

Jeff (46:33):
the fight. But that's how the fight to be started with the
camps. They gotta they gottathey got to do something with
that, like, Yo, only two peopleperform and get to be on stage.
Everybody else got to bounce.

When you start.
The vs. Is this we're callingbackward, backward

performance.
You can call me sweetie.

Back with filing out? Everybody know what it is?
Would you think one?

I think that 361 CQ method. Going into it. I
didn't feel like going into it.
I felt that three six will win.
But I didn't think it would be ablowout. I think they messed up
with the songs that they did.
They did a lot of smoking songs.
A lot of and that's that wasn'tthe bad, you know, at all.

(47:18):
Everybody was you know, drinkingand three, six, we're doing all
these turnt up songs. And theywere you know, doing lullaby
lullabies, if you will.

And he's opening a single show to OTAs

but they didn't wish they I wish they
would have done some harder sothey didn't

Jeff (47:34):
even do the first word of mouth yo. Yeah,

I know it was the second but I was looking
forward to hearing that so

Jeff (47:41):
how do you not do that?
And then they left Crossroads tothe very end after the show was
over like how do you not putthose lunch songs in the middle
of the shit?

They had the better opening song they had the
better starter starter song than36

Jeff (47:54):
Which one was it? The easy shit was the first opening song

thanks for I forget the name of it. But with
the gunshots going off but itwas it was like that was there a
more powerful song The rest werekind of slow

like sit and play well come over here you're
thinking man seriously. Likelike you barely understand them.
When they wrapped into it. Theystart singing along like it
wasn't great thing to beginwith. But like I said, we get a
chance to like, becauseeverybody wants him to have his
own verses right? We get to pullout Wayne for a verse in waned
and just disappeared like thisthis that's saying something
about you that you can do that.
Like Oh, come on. Come on Wayne,all five for for you Come on

(48:31):
dance to your mama house code onsyncing your verse who couldn't
get the fuck off stage. That wasgreat. That was great. And he
had tripperz and he had TerrenceHoward like it Terrence Howard.

Jeff (48:43):
They won right there. When they pulled him out. I was like,
Buffett back to shut up. Andturns

out again, webby and there were some a lot
of fun features that came out.

Yeah, yeah, it was like it was like it was kind of
pointed to versus like theGreatest Hits portion of it. But
I just I just didn't think that,you know, Bone Thugs had enough
like, look at me and Jeff wastalking about before could we
were just talking about Mariah.
It's not like they was gonna beable to bring up a brick now.

Jeff (49:12):
rappers have a featured with Mariah and they played the
shit and she nowhere to befound. The locks played a song
that they had with her. And I'mlike, Okay, this would be the
time when she's gonna come up.
That was a big hit. No, she'snot showing up to the ship. at
all I'm

thinking to Okay, so it's the locks. Bone Thugs.
Nice. We're talking aboutrappers who have actual features
with right Oh, dirty bastard.

Jeff (49:36):
But yeah, obviously he has not yet right. But he and all
them songs was hits. Right butit's not a lot

and busted. Right.
Right. They she don't do a lotof them. So but when whenever
she is with a rapper, she Ihaven't seen her do one with a
rapper. That's not a hit.

Jeff (49:54):
But the thing is, she was like the first diva to start
making songs with rappers shewas like that first. single unit
I mean when she made that SowellDB that she was unheard of
that's why it was so big and youknow Mary but it but Mary's the
queen

Anthony (50:09):
I just look like a superstar

bonehead TASHA Come out for thuggish rubbish
bow Yeah, she is like her hermic wasn't on she was it wasn't
it wasn't right. It wasn't likehow gangsta Boo was spit
actually spit in her shit. Youknow, Tasha came out and it just
seemed like she was just singingwith the you know,

I would just went in with heart with doing over
the past years like IsaacNewton, like who is this? Like,
oh, girl

Jeff (50:40):
actually sings that part.
Yeah, and we still don't knowwho uncle Charles is. Quick. We
haven't figured it out yet.

Okay, all right.
Okay. Okay. All right. In acrossroads right? When he says
Doug, he's talking about aperson not an animal, right? I
know. It sounds stupid. Butpeople have really really really
close to their dog. Look at DMXI'm just asking. I just want to
know I don't want to kill my dogman. I miss my uncle Charles.

(51:09):
I'm like cuz cuz he says dog youmentioned the person afterwards.
But not saying that Charles wasdope but let's see it gets weird
like that in

the video. You know there's a funeral and you
know there's a body a human andthe cast

dog till this day if I see a black boy had to do
what kind of treat a trench coatI'm crossing the street like I
seen you before. No, no whengoing across the road today. I'm
crossing the street. I'm good. I

Jeff (51:36):
might be uncle Charles bro.

I'm like Charlie my huh? Just check and be Thank
you. Yo, and

Jeff (51:45):
let's not forget the Fat Joe one two, the Fat Joe and Joe
rude. I was entertaining one. Itwasn't a task. It was an
attainment. But I'm gonna getoff this versus Okay.

Last week off the versus if there was one. I mean,
off beat one that you will wantto see. Just to have your
favorites. Who would it be?

Jeff (52:06):
Never gonna happen. Jay knows.

I was gonna say the same thing. I wasn't
gonna I wasn't gonna say that.
It wouldn't happen but I wasgonna say I would want to see
Jay Z and NAS and if and ifwe're talking women MCs I'd like
to see some underground. SomeI'd like well in general I'd
like to see some undergroundversus start happening.

Jeff (52:26):
He's gonna branch out. I think he's gonna branch out
we're gonna start seeing likeChristina Aguilera versus
Britney Spears soon enough she'sgonna branch out to pump

I want to see the route versus tribe huh Goshawk I
don't think outcasts is evergoing to do it. But I want you
to route versus tribe. As muchas I want. I want to see the
route versus the whole junglecollective. I want the jungle
brother thing doing and bringingthem out there.

I'd like an ARRI Linux versus Jazmine
Sullivan.

Jasmine I'm gonna put her in the ground boy I'm
sorry I love your Jasmine hadthe best r&b album hotels his
hotel some different

oh I agree with it there's maybe two or
three tracks on there thatactually go back to and listen a
lot there's running back but notthe whole album.

Average is already a spirit animal.

She from my area write

Jeff (53:22):
the one rapper Do you think you would want to work
with

male or female?

I like to to work with Dr. Dre oh you talking
guess my bad

NAS CAMI J Cole Kendrick Lamar C liver guys
lyrical dudes Liverpool's arewomen Shane alar I want to work
with underground artists more sothan you know big industry names
you know continue to helpsupport other underdogs and help

(53:54):
pull ourselves up you knowrather than clinging on to
something that's already there.

Jeff (53:58):
I don't need the industry cat is gonna come in and start
giving you rules and shit likeI'm gonna need you to change
this line. I'm gonna need you tosay like this. Not like this.

What I'm gonna do what I want to do creatively
of course right?

Jeff (54:10):
But yo, I'm not gonna take too much time. This is the
weekend this is a what is aSaturday is so dark as only
three and a half afternoon andit's so fucking dark out. But I
want to thank you for coming onlet people know where let people
know where they can find you. Yo

I'm on Twitter at backwards sweetie the E at
the end of sweetie is with thethree on Instagram backwards
sweetie. Just spelled as is V ACKWODSWE T IE on Instagram and
I'll send you all my link. Youcan attach it to this and not on
Facebook. I'm not on I was onFacebook but I've completely

(54:47):
deactivated I'm done with myleast favorite app. My least
favorite

Jeff (54:54):
I'm finally done with Facebook or some shit

I don't have I might make a an artist or band
page on there but as far aslike, you know, where I was only
communicating with family andfriends, but I don't get a lot
of interaction on Facebook. So Ijust kind of dated that whole
thing and decided to stick toyou know where where I'm
getting, you know the love andinteraction from

Jeff (55:19):
I was told that Facebook is for old people. That's what
somebody told me. A young kidtold me that Facebook was for
overheads. I'm like God damn,young kids are on Tik Tok and
Instagram now

yes said Phil's on fire doing create challenges
good. Be Oh, my fuck as

far as as far as Twitter, I've been able to
collaborate with other artistsand other DJs through Twitter
and I'm not getting that type offeel from other other social
media sites.

I'm glad to get to put on Facebook I'm glad you got
above that narcotic for it yo,cuz you gotta remember remember
Facebook was just started wasjust commendable for to get on
Facebook. You had to be incollege. Like you had to
have.edu to get on Facebook.
Once he opened up to the masses,and it was for college.

I remember when I had my first one but I
wasn't in college. I know it wasa high school when I started
when I had my first Facebook butI'm glad I'm glad

she had to get off Facebook I'm not sure enough no
booty and tit for them that'sshe she does this I get likes on
Facebook. You got flash lube?

She goes Music Music likes to get no love

keeping up a little bit all hearts in the
app.

Jeff (56:35):
You're gonna send us her own little Kim song. Thank you
so

should I send you how to mix

I wish I wish all success for your future career
your endeavors you're talented,you're bright. I think you have
a very good grasp on this you'redoing what you love and you can
hear that and see that musicyou'd have to do me one small
favor though you got to burnthat hook definitely got to go
that you know don't take it offnow in that kind of party but

(57:06):
want to cut the camera was wortheven more.

Jeff (57:11):
What's worse is that the ravens are good. The ravens are
good this year. He should beable to roofer home team

got a whole black ass quarterback who's more like
the Cowboys. Why Lamar from theghetto?

Jeff (57:26):
I final thing before I let you go and you feel free to turn
me down even though I haven'tbeen turned down yet. But is
there any way you could send usoff with a 16? Is there any
possible way?

You haven't been turned down? yet? So I'm
sorry to turn you down.

Jeff (57:41):
You got to get paid. She gotta get paid for her

work. All right, sorry, you down. But uh,
yeah, I'm in the studiotomorrow. And I got new music
coming out in January. I'm on toother artists, their albums.
Once a compilation album and theother one is no at all. It was
see I'm not sure if you'refamiliar with him on Twitter.

(58:04):
Yeah, so I'm on his album aswell. And then I'll be dropping
a smaller project in January aswell. So that's something else
sounds like a EP. Yep. And it'sjust gonna have one producer out
my debut album has twoproducers. Sorry, I was trying
to find the one who was wantingto know shit. So. So I'm gonna

(58:25):
be working with one of them forthis next project. various
styles.

Jeff (58:29):
Oh, alright. So I'm ended with a Maya Angelou quote,
because she's my favorite poet.
And she said if you're alwaystrying to be normal, you will
never know how amazing you canbe back with sweetie thank you
for coming on. Episode 73 Theculture

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