January 23, 2025 • 56 mins
Join me, Nour Hassan, for a conversation with the incredibly talented Aya Abdelhamid, an Egyptian renowned makeup artist and beauty influencer who shares her inspiring journey in the beauty industry. From her unique upbringing in Cairo, where she was surrounded by actors and celebrities, to her rise as a respected figure in the makeup and winner of Charlotte Tilbury Arabia MUA of the Year Award, Abdelhamid opens up about her aspirations to create a lasting legacy for her family name. Her story is built on a foundation of family inspiration and a deep passion for exploration and growth. Discover the intricate balance between simplicity and ambition that defines her personality as she forges her own path in the industry.
• Discusses contrasting morning routines for shoot days and relaxed days
• Reflects on growing up as the daughter of make up legend Mohamed Abdelhamid
• Explores the impact of social media on the makeup industry
• Shares experiences working with celebrities and fashion events
• Discusses challenges of mental health and social anxiety
• Provides advice for aspiring makeup artists and the importance of practice
• Hints at exciting upcoming projects and goals for the future
Check out Aya's instagram where she shares all of her work and behind the scenes glamming talents at some of the world's top shows and events @ayaabdelhamid.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Action.
Welcome to the Curation, a showfor the culturally curious.
This is your host, noor Hassan.
Each week, I'll guide youthrough a curated edit of the
finest in art, fashion, design,culture, luxury, wellness, tech
and more.
This is your go-to space fordiscovering trailblazing ideas,
untold stories and meaningfulconversations with innovators
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There's no gatekeeping here, sosit back, tune in and let's
discover only the best together.
Some of the celebrities you'veworked with Hind Sabri, asmaa,
ghalil Yus, yusra, mona Zaki,farah Mir, ruby, eliana and many
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, many more.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'll try to be a little diplomatic.
Four in the morning, two in themorning I'm not going to be in
normal times at all.
A person who's not expensive.
I think the makeup artist wasnot an influencer until recently
, Until recently, To connect hername and her family's name to a
place that has never beentouched before in our industry.
I have a picture with Yusra andI'm a baby and I'm on her leg I
(01:12):
remember.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know what's the name of the baby.
I'm an OG.
I know the OGs will know.
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I've never been a homeboy.
Okay, it goes through a lotemotionally.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's such an interesting point I've never
thought about it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I get social anxiety all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No way, action Okay hey.
Hi Hi, okay, I'm sitting withAbdelhamid.
I don't think I should make avery strong introduction,
honestly, but you're a makeupartist and, honestly, mashallah,
(01:52):
one of the best.
Thank you.
I know you by a lot.
We're friends.
There's a background.
But today I really wanted to dothis episode with you, to get
into more details, Like I wantto know who I am.
The background Disclaimer myArabic is not the best.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Please don't bother Noor, guys, in her Arabic.
She's trying.
I'm trying, guys, I'm trying.
She's really trying.
We're going to do our best.
I'm not going to bully you, oram I you?
I'm trying, I'm really trying.
We're going to do our best.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm not going to bully you, or I might.
You already did, it's okay, youalready did, okay.
So my first question I alwaysask someone who is Abdul Hamid
today?
Okay, today, exactly Today,right now.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
If I had to ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, initially, I'm very happy to be with you today.
We've been friends for a long,long time.
I've known you for a long timeand, before I say anything, I'm
really proud of you andeverything that you're doing and
I'm so honored to be here withyou today.
Thank you, just to get thispart out of the way, okay.
(03:04):
Okay, who is Abdelhamid?
Okay, um, okay, a makeup artist, a simple girly, um,
hardworking, goal-oriented girl.
(03:27):
That is really.
I mean, see, I told you I'mgoing to speak Arabic and then I
spoke all English normally.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, we're in the podcast dynamics.
People know there are subtitlesfor both.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I know the trend of we listen, we don't judge, we
don't judge.
We listen, we don't judge, wedon't judge, we don't judge A
girl who has a big, strongambition and she wants to To
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convey her name and her family'sname and her family's legacy in
a place that has never beentouched before, في الاندستري
بتاعتنا فده من ناحية الكارير,كآية من ناحية personal.
A very, very simple woman, مشيعني شخص مش متكلف, اعتقد.
(04:22):
Very simple woman um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um and what
(04:43):
else?
What else I don't know.
I mean, I've never asked myselfthis question who am I?
Who am I?
I mean, I'm still discovering,by the way, I'm still
discovering myself.
Every day I'm discoveringsomething new, so I can never
answer this question fully to behonest, but I love your answer.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean, hassan, you, you gave us an idea about who
you are and I want to ask you aquestion, because I feel like
this question knows me, butbasically 90% of what I need to
know about Adam, which is whatis your morning routine.
I want to know the details.
(05:25):
What do you do when you're notawake?
Look, it depends on what day Ihave.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, I mean the day I have a shoot.
I'm completely different fromthe day I'm tired of.
So which answer do you want?
I really want both.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Both.
I think people are interestedin my shoot day and I'm
interested in the other one.
Okay, I'll tell, want both,both.
I think people are moreinterested in the day of filming
.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, and I'm more interested in the day of the
other.
Okay, I'll tell you both.
If I have a day of filming,usually the filming schedule is
not known.
It's 4am, 2am, 6am.
It's not at all my usualschedule, but usually my morning
routine.
I stay Woke up Fast.
When I get up, I wash my face,I don't know I put something.
(06:12):
I walk With a small makeup bagso I don't get caught Give us
the details.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You wash your face.
Is it like a full Skincareroutine or on the day of the
shoot?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There's no skin care routine.
There's a sunblock, that's it.
You want the details of?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
my morning routine.
No, no, I want details.
Okay, we like details from thepodcast Basha.
No, no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Basha, no, basha, I wash my face.
I'm prepared to wear anythingfrom the day before.
Okay, so I wear quickly, I puta sunblock and usually I grab my
things and I leave because Idon't have time to, because I
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don't have enough sleep, so Idon't have time to wake up to my
luxurious morning routine soyou can understand, and you're,
mashaallah, you're on your own.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I filmed with a lot of people and you're at 11, 10,
58, 59.
You're on the phone with me.
I'm down, I'm like, oh okay, no, this is not.
I mean culturally, this is notEgyptian at all, by the way, but
I guess it's because of yourjob, exactly Time management is
very important in my job, andsomething that annoys me is that
some people are jealous of thedates.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
For me, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so today's video is run, run, run, Exactly.
I go home, I take my stuff, Irun, that's it Exactly Okay, and
there's nothing else Coffeewhere I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
'm a woman and, honestly, saad, honestly, khaled
Gozi will prepare a lunch boxto take it with me.
Saad no, of course honestly,that's so cute it's delicious
because I forget to eat.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh my god, okay, so many lunch box run and coffee
when he comes?
No, here.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'll go in the picture and see what they have.
Yeah, what they have, andthat's it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And today he'll run away from you Exactly.
Because you're in the dayrunning.
That's the day.
There's a picture.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, today it's chill, like chill area.
I'm waiting in the absence ofpatience.
Okay, the relaxed morningroutine Usually.
Honestly.
Honestly, because I'm not lying, I first wake up.
I scroll on my phone.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So I open the phone, I check social media, I sit and
watch TikTok, I mean, I sit onthe phone for a while and then I
wake up, I take a shower, whichis where everything you do is
done Everything shower,everything shower exactly From
the side of the scrub, from theside of scrub, from the side of
extra moisturizing, doublecondition, I don't know what
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hair mask, all these things, allof them.
Then I go out, I moisturize mybody, I do my skincare routine.
There's toner, serums,moisturizer, sunblock.
I put some makeup, I put myhair serums I smell good
sunblock.
I put on some makeup.
I put on my hair serums I smellgood.
My perfume is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
By the way, what perfume were you wearing today?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You'll see it in my bag.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh okay, Guys, wait what's in your bag?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Usually I mix, by the way, because it's very nice
Thank you, I work at Paolo Santo, okay, thank you.
I work at Paolo.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Santo.
At home, I work with musicBefore I go to the shower.
I work with music.
I work with jazz.
I love jazz.
I love FKJ, I love the style ofmusic.
The second thing I choose theoutfit that I will wear today.
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I don't know where I will go um, so that the day goes well.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
What is your typical breakfast?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I like something with scrambled eggs, avocado, salmon
.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The ones that are over-cooked.
The ones that are over-cooked,like, for example, you go down
for brunch, yes, exactly, andwhat is your coffee?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
order Coconut milk always.
Wow, I put sugar-free vanillasyrup and I use the coffee of
Davidoff.
Very bougie, bougie is strong.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I'm saying this to myself Strong in the world and
there's no normal milk, it'sjust coconut.
No, you're a coconut milk girl,I'll tell you something.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Because I didn't like the taste of the milk, I felt
like it was blowing me.
Because I don't?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I feel like it's blowing me away.
It's so true.
I think coconut milk is thebest, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And then you start your day with your morning.
Exactly, no rushing.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No rushing.
This is the best thing in theworld, amazing, thank.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
God.
Okay.
So there's two versions of theAS morning routine.
We got both.
Okay, I want to go back to yourbackground a little bit because
babaki is the iconic I don'tknow how to say the word iconic
how other than iconic makeupartist muhammad abdulhamid.
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And we all know him honestly Imean obviously my mom knows him
very well, all her friends,everyone.
Of course they're my boys Onthis episode.
I think he made a bigdifference in the makeup artist
industry and generally he was apioneer in many things,
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especially the special effectsand the very specific things in
makeup.
At the time, I think there werevery few experts on this
subject.
So I want to know what was yourexperience when you were a
child?
I want to know in great detail.
For example, your dad's amakeup artist.
There are always celebritiesaround him, there's always this
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beauty mood.
Could you explain to me?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
His studio was in the same building that we were
living in.
So every house I went to withcelebrities was an entrance and
an exit.
And I was entering I mean, Idon't know how to say it I was
brushing my teeth in a nice way,honestly, but I was brushing my
teeth on them and I was, theywere playing with me and the fun
(12:27):
fact is that there are a lot ofthem.
I mean, I have pictures withthem when I was a baby.
I'm doing their makeup rightnow.
So this, for me, is something.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
This is a great thing .
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I mean a full circle.
So this was my experience inthis area.
Honestly, I really liked towatch him.
I really liked when he gave mecourses that I could tell him.
Please explain to me anythinghe wants to understand.
But as for the celebrities, no,he was always with people
because he was also doing thetest for, for example, the
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makeup of a film or something,so people would come to his
studio.
So I was always trying toattend without embarrassing him,
so that he doesn't become hisown daughter.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
What's the most celebrity you saw when you were
young and you felt like what'sthe biggest deal in the industry
?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
When I was young I didn't know much about
celebrities big deal in theindustry.
In my age I wasn't able toappreciate it.
I still look at the picture.
I posted it on my social media.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I know it's so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This is a small example from this place.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Did you always feel interested in fashion and beauty
, or were you a tomb fashion andbeauty?
Or were you a tomboy when youwere young and then you started
to be a tomboy and you wanted todo your hair and makeup and all
that?
I was never a tomboy oh okay, Iwas never a tomboy.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Actually, maybe lately, when I grew up, I became
more of a tomboy.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think all of us are tomboy now Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, but when I was young, I loved everything that
had anything to do with girls.
Even when I was a baby, I lovedbabies and to feed them.
Actually, they have all thesefake things in their food.
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I love Barbie dolls.
I cut their hair and put makeupon them.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm basically a beauty queen all my life a
beauty queen beauty, enthusiast,everything.
Tell me now, honestly you grewup in Cairo, all your life in
Cairo, in Egypt.
When did you feel you grew upin Cairo, right?
Yes, all your life in Cairo, inEgypt.
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When did you feel that youwanted to, as they say, walk in
your father's footsteps and takeyour father's career, which is
makeup artistry, seriously?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, Initially.
I mean, I've been here foreight years and I know.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I want to be a makeup artist and I want to tell you
something he didn't make me growup on this and he didn't tell
me that you're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean, usually the father tells his children that
you're going to grow up like me,you're going to take over my
job.
You don't need to work at all.
I came from inside.
I've been working for 8 years,wow.
And I started working when Iwas in school.
I was trying to train and ifsomeone wanted to do free makeup
(15:59):
, they would come to the studio.
I was offering people Training.
Yes, I've been here for 14years.
I was offering people Trainingyes, wow, since I was, I think,
14 years old and I was even.
I was attending when they weredoing Fashion shows.
I was attending and workingwith them.
And from the social media, forexample Okay, I tried to make
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you laugh, no, please.
I took my Social mediaseriously Since, for example,
since 2015.
I took my social mediaseriously, for example, since
2015.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But yeah, I wanted to ask you this question.
At first you were justPracticing and training, but now
Social media is a story.
Because Abdelhamid on socialmedia Is a legend?
Because not only Is yourcontent engaging, this is a
story, honestly, because AyaAbdulhamid on social media is a
talk.
Why?
Because not only is yourcontent engaging, it's exciting,
it's informative.
(16:52):
The Tuesday tip really it'snice.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, I mean, the people of Aya's channel wait for
it every Tuesday and talk aboutit with my friends.
Have you seen Aya's Tuesday tip?
Really?
No, really, my sister, everyone, I mean.
Hassan, you created, as you say, a system for yourself on
social media and it greworganically.
Yes, but at the same time, as amakeup artist, it wasn't.
Very honestly, makeup artistsweren't on social media very
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much.
I mean, yes, they were puttheir work photos behind the
scenes, but the makeup artistwas not an influencer until
recently.
So you can tell me more?
Where did you start with socialmedia when you felt like you
were going for it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay.
Social media started, I think,in 2015.
Okay, I'm trying to remember,because I remember that I was
creating an account and my firstname was Makeup by Aya Makeup,
yes, do you remember?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I remember, I don't know why I didn't call him.
I know the OGs will know Makeupby Aya, but it was very chic,
but it was hard.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Babe, I don't speak French.
Why did you call it maquillageby A?
I have no idea.
We all have our faces.
I'm like because it was A, Idon't know if it was taken or
something, so I'm likemaquillage by A.
It wasn't clean, so I'm like ma.
So that was the first thing andI started to upload photos of
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the makeup that I do.
Okay, and I used to do.
Tuesday.
Tips started really early on,but I used to do it.
I didn't.
I used to give tips already.
I put photos, examples, and Igive tips If someone has a
problem with something.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You write the tips Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I write them I write them and I put photos as a
reference, but I haven't madethe videos yet.
After that I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think I started Tuesday Tips With I think two or
three years, no more, I thinkmore.
Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
For five years.
Okay, approximately Five years.
Three years, no more, no, Ithink more.
Okay, I think for five years.
Okay, okay, approximately fiveyears, four years.
Yeah, four and a half years.
I remember, with my marriage Iconnect it with when I moved the
house for the shoot.
I try to remember the shooting.
It was the setting.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
We were shooting at home.
It's the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, actually I was filming at home.
More than five years Indeed.
I've been doing Tuesday tipsfor more than 50 years.
That's why I might have missedthe last few days.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, but they're amazing, they're iconic your.
Tuesday tips.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But I think I mean, I've been doing it for a while
and people loved it a lot.
They loved the idea that I maketheir makeup look easier,
exactly Because there are a lotof girls who are afraid of the
idea of products and thatthere's a lot of variety and
that I put what and do what.
So I was trying to go out in ashort video to explain to them
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how easy it is for you to dosomething that looks
professional, but it's actuallyeasier than you expect and
generally, when did you feelthat your social media is
growing and people like it andfollowers are increasing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Is it more of a job?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
or not, definitely.
Social media is a full-time job.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I don't want to talk about this.
I'll tell you something.
Everyone thinks that she'sposting content and she puts
photos and videos and it's veryeasy.
It takes hours, it's a lot oftime but honestly it pays off.
In hours you feel like you're amakeup artist, but you're also
kind of an influencer right now,obviously, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Obviously, obviously, time.
It's really a full-time job.
I mean, for example, in thepast I used to go and do makeup
and then I do my job.
You take money from the job andyou leave, but now, if you
don't film your job and you postit, you don't work.
I mean, a lot of people thinkthat oh, she's a little bit lost
(21:23):
from social media, but she'snot working.
She's not working as before.
I'm traveling and I'm doingfashion week and I'm working and
I'm trying to shoot content,but I don't have time to put it.
So people are connecting yourposting with Whether you're
working or relevant.
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So that's the problem for me.
That's the negative thing Insocial problem for me.
This is the negative thing insocial media for me that you
have to constantly post andconstantly be relatable and post
things that people areinterested in, to see you and
your work and your clothes andyour skin care and your personal
life.
Everything it's a blessing, butat the same time, your personal
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life it's a blessing, but Atthe same time it's not the
easiest thing, because we'rehuman.
We go through a lot Emotionallyand mentally.
Maybe no one is ready To put,for example, I do everything by
myself.
I mean the editing, thephotography.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You don't have an assistant who does the editing
specifically.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
No, I mean maybe in events, maybe in something, but
for me the Tuesday tips, all mystuff, it's all me.
So it gets hectic Because I'm,let's say, in a photo, I have 18
hours and I go out with a brideto do her makeup, and then I go
back and I have to post.
But I really get drained, butat the same time I feel guilty
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that I'm not posting enough, sopeople will feel that I'm not
there.
I mean, it plays with your head, very, very very.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's such an interesting point.
I never thought you would saythat and I really felt, wow,
you're right, specifically inyour field.
If you didn't put it, peoplemight feel I'm not posting and
you might be, for example, mostbusy time and booked in your
life and not posting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'm just not posting about it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But I want to know what's the most negative or
mentally difficult thing Insocial media, because it's a big
part of your job and obviouslyyou're a makeup artist, but, as
you said, social media is amajor, major, major tool.
So what's the most difficultthing?
Do you find any criticism, forexample, negative comments, all
of these things?
How do you deal with it?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Honestly, the hardest thing in social media Is
consistency, To stay disciplined, to have a schedule To post
this and this and make a list Ofthings I need to post.
Consistency, especially with mywork.
If I'm't share it, it's hard,so it's tricky.
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Honestly, negative comments Inmy field there won't be hate
comments In the way you imagine,because usually it can be For
example, critique on makeup, butfor me it's not hate comments.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It could be, for example, a critique on makeup or
something.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But I think for me it's not hate comments, it's
just a person who doesn't likethis style and another person I
feel honestly if you have anaudience, they love you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I swear I'm not just saying that there are people who
hate comments and there'snegativity, but I think you have
a positive community.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Alhamdulillah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Alhamdulillah.
Community it's really positive.
They love you Girls.
They're not really out to hatethey don't want to put any
negativity out there.
Alhamdulillah, we love you.
Yes, we love you.
Okay, we want to go to the list.
I have to read.
Okay, so Aya has worked with.
I'm going to list like a few welove you.
Okay, we want to go into thelist.
(25:06):
I have to read the subtitlesbecause I have to read.
Okay, so Aya has worked with.
I'm gonna list like a few, butthere's a lot more, okay, okay.
So, Hind Sabri, by the way, ifyou want to drink matcha, drink
okay.
So, some of the celebritiesyou've worked with, we don't
have all day, so I'll just say afew Hind Sabri, Yasmeen Sabri,
(25:30):
Asmaa Galil Yusra, obviously,Mona Zaki Toramed, Maya Deeb,
Ruby Eliana and many, many more,Okay, many more.
You glam them up for filmfestivals.
You do makeup for, for example,fashion shows.
You do makeup for fashion showsParis Fashion Week, New York
(25:50):
Fashion Week, things like thatand I want to know what your
process is.
I mean, how do you prepare themost?
I want to know because you, ofcourse, you deal with big
personalities.
As people say, everyone hastheir own personality, everyone
has their own mood, vibe andenergy.
And the makeup artist I feellike it's a very intimate role.
(26:11):
You're close, close to theperson sitting with me maybe an
hour.
So how do you prepare for this?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay, From the perspective of festivals with
celebrities, usually thepreparations are before the
conversation with the stylist,for example, to know what she
will wear, what the stylist'svision is, and I also have my
(26:40):
input to send references.
And I also have my own inputthat I send references Because I
worked with these artists, so Iknow what I should wear and
what I shouldn't wear.
So I send my own input and thereferences I need For the makeup
look of the festival that Iwent to.
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And there are a lot of timesVery fun fact that they don't
know what they're going to doand when we do the makeup
they're even know what they'regoing to do.
When we do the makeup they'restill unsure if they're going to
wear this or that.
I mean, they still don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But that's amazing.
You get into the situation, butthis happens a lot, noor,
really, that they don't haveoptions.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They still don't know .
Oh, so you're styling on thespot, exactly, oh, okay, exactly
.
And there are many times whenyou have to do makeup that
matches anything you wear, okay,but at the same time, it looks
nice on camera in real life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So you change for example, there are more looks.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, or she still doesn't know what she's going to
wear.
This happens a lot.
You do makeup and you're notgoing for a certain style.
You're working on how tocomplete it and how to match it
to what you're wearing.
So that's the most tricky thingin the whole thing, but it's so
fun.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That is so fun.
Okay, so I want to know whatwas your favorite show or
festival or moment in yourcareer.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I feel like it really a big thing there are a lot of
moments, to be honest.
I'll tell you a few things.
It's not one thing.
It was a film festival for me.
Huge Paris fashion week, newYork fashion week for me.
(28:25):
Definitely Huge Paris FashionWeek, new York Fashion Week For
me too.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
You were doing, for example because he's a designer.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Pat Bow Parabell Co.
Nina Richie Anthony.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Insane, yeah, and the energy is really like Running.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Running, you run, but you don't understand the
adrenaline that you feel it'sdangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You don't need to eat , you don't need to drink no, no
, there's no such thing aseating and drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
There's no such thing , no no these are things I saw a
few stories.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
The most funny stories are, for example, 5am on
a flight and then 2 minutesglamming New York Fashion Week.
I'm like wow how do you haveany preparation rituals for
yourself, for yourself as amakeup artist, to prepare for
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makeup?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
honestly, with time and experience you get used to a
certain routine.
You get everything ready tomake sure you have everything
you need in the kit, becauseyou're not sure what you can do,
as I said.
So you have to be ready for anysurprise.
You have to be ready to haveall the products that you might
(29:48):
need.
Not that I'll take the thingsthat she usually does.
No, I'll take more things.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'll take everything that I need.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So that I'm ready for any surprises.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, this is a hard question, I know.
But, for example, what is themost look you did once?
I mean you felt that not onlyyou liked it, but your audience
liked it.
I mean you posted it andeveryone said, wow, it's amazing
.
One look Give me, for example.
Actually not one look, becauseyou have a lot of stuff.
Give me, for example, two orthree.
Two or three, oh on, likedifferent people, I mean I think
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Maya Diab in the opening was afilm festival.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I think that was, and her look in general.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Because it was different from what she was
doing and at the same time, itreally showed her beauty.
So people really liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Um, um, um, um um um, um, um, um, um um um, um, um
(31:13):
inside out.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So that's why what else can we talk about?
Eliana was in Guna FilmFestival.
Her performance, I think it wasso angelic and very soft and
similar.
I mean I really liked that look.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Eliana.
Honestly, I think when I sawyou doing makeup for Eliana, I
was like wow, not just becauseshe's at the time and she still
is like an incredible artist.
She's an artist by God, but thelook was amazing.
The look was so really justperfect for her.
(31:52):
And how was it actually doingher makeup look was so fallen,
just perfect for her.
And how was it us on doing hermakeup.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It was so fun.
Personality to the stage, butshe's actually.
She's so quiet and sweet and,yeah, she's very cute honestly,
I enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I think that was an amazing moment, especially at
the Guna Film Festival at thetime.
Is there any other looks thatyou can think of?
She looks a lot.
Give me one more.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
One more that you can think of one more, maybe the
one that One more that you canthink of.
One more maybe, what peopleliked a lot?
Maybe the episode of AsmaaGalal with Mona Shazly?
Yes, that's right, I rememberthat well?
Yes, that was what people likeda lot, a lot, a lot actually.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay.
So I want to know the behindthe scenes of the life of a
makeup artist.
People often remember it as aglam life, and it is.
It is there's a lot of glam andwe will get into this honestly,
but what are the things thatpeople don't know about being a
makeup artist?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
generally look, it also depends on you.
The makeup artistry generallyis a really broad field.
There are many sections.
Do you work in TV and film, intheater, in fashion week, in
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bridal, as you see, for example,I work in theater, in ads, in
TV and film.
I work in runway in fashionweek, in festivals.
I work in the theater, I workin ads, tv and film.
I work in the runway in thefashion week, in the festivals.
(33:43):
I work in the shows, I work inthe special effects, all of
these things.
So the dates are the things thatI can tell you are not
glamouries at all.
The schedule, the unknownschedule that you always Get
into, is the most Tired thing.
Okay, the idea that you don'thave A fixed schedule Is a
tiring thing.
The idea that you work Onholidays and on weekends Is also
(34:07):
something that's not the bestthing For your personal life,
right, but this is the part partI can tell you about.
And you have a bigresponsibility For the bride.
You should make her the bestmakeup in her life, because this
is the only day Pressure, ifyou don't have experience.
(34:30):
It's a high pressure and, fromthe celebrities' point of view,
they'll be on the red carpet andpeople will zoom in until they
understand.
Go their soul Go, their literalsoul.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I feel that you're right.
Scheduling is not glamorous atall, but, in general, sharing
things on social media, ofcourse it is a glamorous life.
There's is a glamorous life.
It has a very glamorous aspect,of course, of course.
But I want to know what issomething you've never shared on
social media, something youdon't know at all about me, that
you can tell us about you.
That's a personality trait, Imean behind the scenes, which is
(35:07):
the persona versus me, okay.
Okay, something people don'tknow about you.
You, you never share this parton social media.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, there are a lot of people maybe only my friends
who I know or people who areclose to me, even if they're not
all my friends.
Okay, I get social anxietynormally.
No way, I swear.
No, I mean when I attend eventsor something.
No, of course I swear, I panic.
I'll tell you something.
People think I'm a tinker whenI attend an event, I'm sorry.
But I'm your friend, but Idon't know what social anxiety
(35:38):
is, I'll explain it to you andI'll explain it to everyone.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Because of this topic .
No guys In events Like nose up,Like phone, chest back Girl.
I have a bad eyesight.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
At night, so I really can't see.
If anyone knows me In the eventat night.
Please come say hi, because I'mnot a good listener.
I'm really not a good listener.
I understand what you mean,especially if I'm alone.
At any event, I get socialanxiety almost from the time of
Corona.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, yes, yes, we all have a high level of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I'm convinced that I don't know how to deal with
it.
Unless someone starts talkingto me, then I'll be fine, but
before that I'll be in a bubbleand I'll be upset and people
feel that this is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's not a disaster.
I don't see it as a disaster.
I'm afraid of death.
I feel A lot of tension BetweenA lot of people.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So Okay, but I think that's a really interesting fact
, because I myself Don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I see you at events and I see you In everything.
But I'm fine.
I just come say hi, exactly, ifI know you, but I think I can
feel why people Think that,because sometimes you can be a
bit intimidating in the sense oflike, oh Lua, I don't see you,
I don't see you, I don't see you, who, sorry?
(37:03):
So you won the CharlotteTilbury Makeup Artist of the
Year Arabia Award.
This is huge.
I feel like at the beginning ofCharlotte Tilbury, we're all
obsessed, obviously, and sherecently opened in the Middle
East and there are stores inDubai and everywhere else.
Her makeup is amazing.
We all know this and you mether, obviously Like she's your
(37:24):
bestie and she's an amazing,amazing woman.
But can you tell me how thishappened?
You won the Makeup Artist ofthe Year?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
This was last year, woman, but can you tell me how
this happened?
You won the makeup artist ofthe year.
Congratulations again, thankyou.
Congratulations again, thankyou.
She's as bubbly as she looks oncamera.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The energy starts coming out of the screen.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And it's like that in fact, it's dangerous and you
remember details.
For example, I saw it in anevent from 5 months after that.
You see me, you remember thethings we talked about and you
talk to me about it.
It's I think we have a mutuallove.
That's so nice and this issomething when I think it's a
(38:32):
very nice thing and this issomething that, when I think
about it, I feel like Because Iused to watch her YouTube videos
.
Her brand was still juststarting, so I used to watch her
YouTube tutorials and I used towatch her dad and introduce her
to him.
So the idea that last year shegave me this title was a big
thing for me and we did a lot ofthings together.
(38:53):
For example, the film festivalwas with Charlotte Tilbury.
Nina Ritchie was with CharlotteTilbury.
I represented her in a lot oflooks with a lot of celebrities.
So we did Disney the shoot ofDisney together in London.
(39:14):
It was an amazing experienceand I still cherish the things
we did together and theexperience and I got to know her
and I got to know her and shegot to know me.
It was an amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It was honestly a dangerous experience.
You felt like winning that.
You won the award of CharlotteTilbury Makeup Artist of the
Year in Arabia.
It opened up doors for you inthe MENA region in the GCC.
You were doing makeup all overBecause makeup artists travel.
They go to, for example, if youhave a bride outside, etc.
But did it change anything inyour career?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Definitely, definitely.
I think it increased the GCCarea Because I used to travel
and do a lot of master classesOf Charlotte In Riyadh and in
Jeddah and in Dubai and AbuDhabi, so the people who see me
(40:16):
or attend my classes.
This increases my followers andincreases the people who know
me career-wise in the GCC area.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
What advice would you give to a makeup artist right
now, anyone who wants to becomea makeup artist, because, of
course, the situation right nowis you can't just be like you
said, you can't to be a makeupartist, because, of course, the
situation right now is that youcan't just be a makeup artist.
You need to have a social mediapresence, you need to have
documentation of your work.
Of course, there are manythings and there are many skills
(40:47):
.
I think, much more than before,you need to have them to be a
makeup artist today.
So what advice can you give tobe with them to be a makeup
artist today?
So what advice would you giveto young makeup artists?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
there's no one advice .
But the most important thing isif you really love this job
because a lot of people work onit just to be relevant not the
idea that I love this job,because a lot of people work
there just to be relevant, notthe idea that you love this job
(41:20):
but if you're passionate aboutit, take as many courses as you
can from different people.
This will increase your skill.
Work as much as you can inpeople you know and train a lot
of people before you actuallyenter skill.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh uh.
(41:49):
They are in a hurry to reachthe celebrity they want content.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Exactly so they are.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
They are depending on the work that can reach them,
and I see a lot of examples Fromthis side that they feel that
they are older than they trained, for example, than they go down
as assistants To people who arealready old.
All of these things help you todevelop the experience and
(42:17):
skill to reach what you want inthe end, and so you will reach
it if you strive.
I strongly believe in thispoint that you strive in the
work that you want to achieve,whatever it is, and do what you
have to do and really put in theeffort and really God makes it
easy and helps a lot To reachthe goal that you want.
So a lot of exercise it's veryimportant.
(42:38):
Your hand always has to stayactive, because it's a muscle
memory too.
Like people who draw, you haveto constantly draw Because after
a while your hand can forget,your muscle memory gets weak, so
you need to exercise.
So constantly keep your.
(43:17):
I think this is my biggestadvice Do the work, put in the
effort.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I love your advice honestly and I think to be
humble in your work is reallyimportant because I feel like
you're one of the most peoplewho, on social media, you have
over 700,000 followers, I thinksomething like that and a lot of
people, even if the perceptionyou're glam and the perception
of the other one that now wecracked it, guys, but you have a
really nice thing that and theperception of the other one that
now we cracked it socialanxiety, we cracked it guys.
(43:55):
But there's something reallynice about you that you are such
a kind person, very kind, verycomfortable, really.
I remember one time when I gotmy makeup and I was stressed
they gave me.
They gave me.
They were like it's okay, we'lldo it on time, and it was
amazing.
(44:15):
So I think this part is a bigpart of your success.
You're like it's okay, we'll doit on time, and it was amazing.
So I think this part is a bigpart of your success as a
character.
You have to be simple and, atthe end of the day, I think you
deal with a lot of situationsthat are very big and very glam.
I think the last thing I wantto ask you honestly is what's
next for Aya?
What's next in?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
the pipeline.
There's something, but honestlyI'll leave it to myself for now
.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I don't want to jinx anything okay, fair, I was just
talking about that, but I'lltell you later, but inshallah,
inshallah.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I was just talking about that.
Yeah, but I'll tell you later.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
But hopefully.
Hopefully Is there a teaser tip.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
There's a little bit you can ask me honestly.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Okay, I'll do it at this point.
It's an exclusive.
I think your real followers canguess.
I think so too.
Yeah, okay, amazing.
Okay, hanam and Maki.
Two questions Okay, we're notreally strangers.
Okay, we're not reallystrangers.
This is one of my favoritegames.
Okay, I'll choose one.
(45:23):
Okay, okay, if you play acharacter in a movie, okay, who
will you be?
The villain or the good girl?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
if I play seriously.
I would love to play a villain,because it will be the opposite
of my personality.
So I would like to discoverthis part, since some people saw
me, so let's see this parttogether in the film.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You feel like I might play Cinderella, but imagine
Maleficent yes.
I feel that too, I agree withyou.
Okay, a second question.
Um, let's see, I guess I knowhow to say splurge on.
(46:18):
If you have a budget to buysomething, what else can you
splurge on Except makeup, I know?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
you're going to say makeup.
You saw it in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You're like makeup For me.
There's money.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I think oh, it's tricky.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Like one thing, oh splurge.
Like one thing, Spludge.
Maybe a split Because you'reinto shoes, do you?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
have a shoe collection?
Yeah, I started.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I started this recently.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I didn't have any interest in this shoe at all,
but I started to feel like Ilike you.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I like you, I like you, so it's basically a pair of
shoes.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Heels or sneakers.
Sneakers and heels Maybesomething in them, but I think
shoes Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Okay.
So Before I ask for yourcuration, I want to know what
are your go-to or must-havemakeup products.
What are some of your go-to ormust-have makeup products?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
A lip tint, a lip balm, anything that has to do
with lips, a lip liner?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Lip liner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Everything.
Lip products generally aresomething I can't get rid of.
Okay, I can't, and I use themeverywhere, like on my cheeks,
on my eye.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
What's your lipstick today?
Oh, it's a mix.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, my God.
Makeup artist answer it's a mix.
I never put on one color.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Okay, if I show you For example, there's like three
mixed together Like four mixedtogether, alright, and our last
question is our signaturequestion on the podcast, which
is what is your curation asAbdelhamid?
So, basically, what is yourcuration if there is, for
example, a couple of things thatyou can say that really elevate
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your life, you feel like theyreally matter in your life.
You can write anything, forexample, a certain food, a
certain habit, a certain book,okay, so what's your edit?
And you can think about it?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I think it's exercise , okay, any form of it, but even
in dance classes pilates,pilates, boxing, anything that's
a big difference in my day Mustdo for you in a week Music.
Okay, music like this, musicmakes a big difference in my
(49:00):
mood.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Mm-hmm.
I want to know.
I want to know a detail like,for example, is there like a
certain flask that you can'tlive without?
Or like, for example, in mylife I have my hydro flask that
I?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
can't live without.
For example, look at you, emo,look at my loved ones a certain
flask.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
No, no, no, I swear.
I want to go into details.
Like give them things that arelike super random, but very a
aloe socks.
I swear.
It's such an a thing.
I'm not kidding.
See, that's what I mean.
This is what I mean.
It's like a hack my good luck,okay, so her al.
(50:03):
My good luck.
Sock Okay, so her aloe socks.
I swear, every time Aya comesto Pilates guys, she's in aloe
socks.
It's a thing.
It's a thing, okay, we're goingto do what's in your bag with
Aya.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Let's see, that's a big bag.
It's a big bag.
I'll tell you somethinghonestly Tell me At the outfit
that I can't wear a big bag.
So I have a small bag that Ican take out, but there's one in
the car.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
That's so funny, first of all when I'm talking
about the same thing, but I loveit.
Is it like vintage Dior?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
it is Dior.
Yes, beautiful.
Okay, let's go okay guys, we,this is a bag with a product.
Okay, let's start with the backpocket there's a phone iPhone,
of course with the stickyExactly.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
content creator.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Content creator.
The sign of a content creator.
Exactly the case of mysunglasses Love it poppy,
they're always amazing.
Okay, let's open it and seewhat's inside.
Let's go First of all.
No, there's a it and see what'sinside.
Let's go First of all this bag.
I'm just afraid of your mic.
It's messed up here.
(51:12):
You can keep it like this Bag.
This will be like this with me,so I can take any bag, even if
it's a small bag.
This will be like this Becauseit has my makeup.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I have so many.
Okay, so it's a couple ofproducts.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Okay, so the girls are dying to see a couple of
products.
Okay, so I have the collagenlip bath, which I really love,
love, um, um.
Nora's lipstick I love theirlipsticks.
A concealer from house labs.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I tried it.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
That's nice a powder puff, oh my god.
With no powder, just a, just apuff.
Yeah, a lip tattoo situationokay blush no, I have.
I have.
I have a few CDs, so Iunderstand.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
I understand where the blush.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Is this right situation?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
okay, blush no, I have.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yes, I love it okay um lip balm and kosas nice, uh,
what else?
Speaker 1 (52:24):
What else?
The last product Okay, I gotexcited.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Hindash lipstick.
An eyeliner I said I want a few.
I want to show you everythingEyeliner.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Please, I think, honestly, I think girls are
going to make a list of this andlike go literally A skin tint
Okay.
A skin tint A Anastasia no,this is Charlotte Tilbury.
Charlotte Tilbury skin tintOkay, A skin tint, Anastasia no,
this is Charlotte Tilbury.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Charlotte Tilbury skin tint.
Okay, amazing, what else?
Eyeliners I have lip oil, wow.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
So the look you have today, your lips today, are a
mix of AirPods.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
AirPods, with the makeup, I love it.
It's so random.
Okay, okay, the lip combo Ihave today.
I With the makeup, I love it.
It's so random.
Okay, the okay, the, the, the,the lip combo today.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh, today, of course, I have it with me?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Okay, so I have on my lips.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Okay, guys can we seriously?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I have on my lips just six or seven things yeah
exactly, and I and I the lip,just six or seven things, yeah,
exactly, and a lip, a lip combois huge, okay, yeah, I mean, oh,
there we go, okay, okay.
So this is oh, wait, wait, onemore product, that's your lip
combo.
This is what I have.
(53:39):
Oh, my god, exactly, okay, lipline.
This is the eyeliner, the lipliner, the eyeliner, the
eyeliner because, I line my lipswith it and then I smooth the
lip liner with another lip linerOkay.
And then I put the lip tattooinside Okay, and then just dab
from Nars lipstick and over itjust to mute everything.
(54:00):
I use the Hindash lipstick inCall Me Peaches, okay, and then
Okay, and I put that on the side.
Everything I use, the hindashlipstick in call me peaches,
okay, all right um my wallet.
Love it gorgeous, thank you lv.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh, use the wire.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I use wires, yeah I do, I do, but these are safer.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
They are safer.
I think I should go back andthen my perfume, today's perfume
.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Louis Vuitton Attrape Rêve.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
I hope I'm saying it right, it's so good, the minute
you walked in I gave you a hug.
I'm like beautiful, love it,it's actually so good.
It is, guys, I gave it a hug.
I'm like beautiful, love it,love it, it's actually so good.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
It is and it's fresh.
Do you want to see the mostimportant thing about your bag?
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Power bank Of course, I mean needed.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
This is a lifesaver Just a hair clip, just a clip.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, I love it, and so this is like a big bag for
you or normal, no, no, this is abig bag.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
This is a big bag this is everything I need
honestly amazing guys list.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I think I'm going to have to put captions.
Yeah, what's an A bag?
Okay, thank you so much becausethis was so much fun.
I loved having you on thepodcast and I feel like this
episode really, and I feel likethis episode will inspire you,
as a girl, to be a makeup artist.
Thank you.
That's a wrap, guys.
(55:30):
Thank you, cut, we're done.
How was the episode for you?
It was amazing, it was so fun,but at first, I didn't feel like
it was the right time.
You felt like it was casual.
I felt like it was the righttime.
It was crazy, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Time Did you feel it was casual.
I felt the time was coming.
It was crazy.
What did we do?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, I mean literally like 40 minutes, which
is crazy.
But can you imagine?
Wow, that's insane, like Iswear.
I thought it was 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
But I'm happy you enjoyed it.
But, it was so delicious youranswers were so cute.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
I love them and we do the double subs, but so thank
you, ayyush, let's take apicture.
Action.
Welcome to the Curation, a showfor the culturally curious.
This is your host, noor Hassan.
Each week, I'll guide youthrough a curated edit of the
finest in art, fashion, design,culture, luxury, wellness, tech
and more.
This is your go-to space fordiscovering trailblazing ideas,
untold stories and meaningfulconversations with innovators
(00:24):
and creators who are shaping ourworld.
There's no gatekeeping here, sosit back, tune in and let's
discover only the best together.
Some of the celebrities you'veworked with Hind Sabri, asmaa,
ghalil Yus, yusra, mona Zaki,farah Mir, ruby, eliana and many
(00:46):
, many more.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'll try to be a little diplomatic.
Four in the morning, two in themorning I'm not going to be in
normal times at all.
A person who's not expensive.
I think the makeup artist wasnot an influencer until recently
, Until recently, To connect hername and her family's name to a
place that has never beentouched before in our industry.
I have a picture with Yusra andI'm a baby and I'm on her leg I
(01:12):
remember.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I don't know what's the name of the baby.
I'm an OG.
I know the OGs will know.
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I've never been a homeboy.
Okay, it goes through a lotemotionally.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's such an interesting point I've never
thought about it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I get social anxiety all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
No way, action Okay hey.
Hi Hi, okay, I'm sitting withAbdelhamid.
I don't think I should make avery strong introduction,
honestly, but you're a makeupartist and, honestly, mashallah,
(01:52):
one of the best.
Thank you.
I know you by a lot.
We're friends.
There's a background.
But today I really wanted to dothis episode with you, to get
into more details, Like I wantto know who I am.
The background Disclaimer myArabic is not the best.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Please don't bother Noor, guys, in her Arabic.
She's trying.
I'm trying, guys, I'm trying.
She's really trying.
We're going to do our best.
I'm not going to bully you, oram I you?
I'm trying, I'm really trying.
We're going to do our best.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I'm not going to bully you, or I might.
You already did, it's okay, youalready did, okay.
So my first question I alwaysask someone who is Abdul Hamid
today?
Okay, today, exactly Today,right now.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
If I had to ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, initially, I'm very happy to be with you today.
We've been friends for a long,long time.
I've known you for a long timeand, before I say anything, I'm
really proud of you andeverything that you're doing and
I'm so honored to be here withyou today.
Thank you, just to get thispart out of the way, okay.
(03:04):
Okay, who is Abdelhamid?
Okay, um, okay, a makeup artist, a simple girly, um,
hardworking, goal-oriented girl.
(03:27):
That is really.
I mean, see, I told you I'mgoing to speak Arabic and then I
spoke all English normally.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
No, we're in the podcast dynamics.
People know there are subtitlesfor both.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I know the trend of we listen, we don't judge, we
don't judge.
We listen, we don't judge, wedon't judge, we don't judge A
girl who has a big, strongambition and she wants to To
(04:00):
convey her name and her family'sname and her family's legacy in
a place that has never beentouched before, في الاندستري
بتاعتنا فده من ناحية الكارير,كآية من ناحية personal.
A very, very simple woman, مشيعني شخص مش متكلف, اعتقد.
(04:22):
Very simple woman um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,
um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um,um, um, um, um, um, um and what
(04:43):
else?
What else I don't know.
I mean, I've never asked myselfthis question who am I?
Who am I?
I mean, I'm still discovering,by the way, I'm still
discovering myself.
Every day I'm discoveringsomething new, so I can never
answer this question fully to behonest, but I love your answer.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean, hassan, you, you gave us an idea about who
you are and I want to ask you aquestion, because I feel like
this question knows me, butbasically 90% of what I need to
know about Adam, which is whatis your morning routine.
I want to know the details.
(05:25):
What do you do when you're notawake?
Look, it depends on what day Ihave.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, I mean the day I have a shoot.
I'm completely different fromthe day I'm tired of.
So which answer do you want?
I really want both.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Both.
I think people are interestedin my shoot day and I'm
interested in the other one.
Okay, I'll tell, want both,both.
I think people are moreinterested in the day of filming
.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Okay, and I'm more interested in the day of the
other.
Okay, I'll tell you both.
If I have a day of filming,usually the filming schedule is
not known.
It's 4am, 2am, 6am.
It's not at all my usualschedule, but usually my morning
routine.
I stay Woke up Fast.
When I get up, I wash my face,I don't know I put something.
(06:12):
I walk With a small makeup bagso I don't get caught Give us
the details.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You wash your face.
Is it like a full Skincareroutine or on the day of the
shoot?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
There's no skin care routine.
There's a sunblock, that's it.
You want the details of?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
my morning routine.
No, no, I want details.
Okay, we like details from thepodcast Basha.
No, no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Basha, no, basha, I wash my face.
I'm prepared to wear anythingfrom the day before.
Okay, so I wear quickly, I puta sunblock and usually I grab my
things and I leave because Idon't have time to, because I
(06:54):
don't have enough sleep, so Idon't have time to wake up to my
luxurious morning routine soyou can understand, and you're,
mashaallah, you're on your own.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I filmed with a lot of people and you're at 11, 10,
58, 59.
You're on the phone with me.
I'm down, I'm like, oh okay, no, this is not.
I mean culturally, this is notEgyptian at all, by the way, but
I guess it's because of yourjob, exactly Time management is
very important in my job, andsomething that annoys me is that
some people are jealous of thedates.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
For me, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so today's video is run, run, run, Exactly.
I go home, I take my stuff, Irun, that's it Exactly Okay, and
there's nothing else Coffeewhere I don't drink.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
'm a woman and, honestly, saad, honestly, khaled
Gozi will prepare a lunch boxto take it with me.
Saad no, of course honestly,that's so cute it's delicious
because I forget to eat.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh my god, okay, so many lunch box run and coffee
when he comes?
No, here.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'll go in the picture and see what they have.
Yeah, what they have, andthat's it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And today he'll run away from you Exactly.
Because you're in the dayrunning.
That's the day.
There's a picture.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, today it's chill, like chill area.
I'm waiting in the absence ofpatience.
Okay, the relaxed morningroutine Usually.
Honestly.
Honestly, because I'm not lying, I first wake up.
I scroll on my phone.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So I open the phone, I check social media, I sit and
watch TikTok, I mean, I sit onthe phone for a while and then I
wake up, I take a shower, whichis where everything you do is
done Everything shower,everything shower exactly From
the side of the scrub, from theside of scrub, from the side of
extra moisturizing, doublecondition, I don't know what
(08:50):
hair mask, all these things, allof them.
Then I go out, I moisturize mybody, I do my skincare routine.
There's toner, serums,moisturizer, sunblock.
I put some makeup, I put myhair serums I smell good
sunblock.
I put on some makeup.
I put on my hair serums I smellgood.
My perfume is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
By the way, what perfume were you wearing today?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You'll see it in my bag.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Oh okay, Guys, wait what's in your bag?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I'll show you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Usually I mix, by the way, because it's very nice
Thank you, I work at Paolo Santo, okay, thank you.
I work at Paolo.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Santo.
At home, I work with musicBefore I go to the shower.
I work with music.
I work with jazz.
I love jazz.
I love FKJ, I love the style ofmusic.
The second thing I choose theoutfit that I will wear today.
(09:59):
I don't know where I will go um, so that the day goes well.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
What is your typical breakfast?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I like something with scrambled eggs, avocado, salmon
.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
The ones that are over-cooked.
The ones that are over-cooked,like, for example, you go down
for brunch, yes, exactly, andwhat is your coffee?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
order Coconut milk always.
Wow, I put sugar-free vanillasyrup and I use the coffee of
Davidoff.
Very bougie, bougie is strong.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I'm saying this to myself Strong in the world and
there's no normal milk, it'sjust coconut.
No, you're a coconut milk girl,I'll tell you something.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Because I didn't like the taste of the milk, I felt
like it was blowing me.
Because I don't?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I feel like it's blowing me away.
It's so true.
I think coconut milk is thebest, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And that's it.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And then you start your day with your morning.
Exactly, no rushing.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
No rushing.
This is the best thing in theworld, amazing, thank.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
God.
Okay.
So there's two versions of theAS morning routine.
We got both.
Okay, I want to go back to yourbackground a little bit because
babaki is the iconic I don'tknow how to say the word iconic
how other than iconic makeupartist muhammad abdulhamid.
(11:18):
And we all know him honestly Imean obviously my mom knows him
very well, all her friends,everyone.
Of course they're my boys Onthis episode.
I think he made a bigdifference in the makeup artist
industry and generally he was apioneer in many things,
(11:40):
especially the special effectsand the very specific things in
makeup.
At the time, I think there werevery few experts on this
subject.
So I want to know what was yourexperience when you were a
child?
I want to know in great detail.
For example, your dad's amakeup artist.
There are always celebritiesaround him, there's always this
(12:01):
beauty mood.
Could you explain to me?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
His studio was in the same building that we were
living in.
So every house I went to withcelebrities was an entrance and
an exit.
And I was entering I mean, Idon't know how to say it I was
brushing my teeth in a nice way,honestly, but I was brushing my
teeth on them and I was, theywere playing with me and the fun
(12:27):
fact is that there are a lot ofthem.
I mean, I have pictures withthem when I was a baby.
I'm doing their makeup rightnow.
So this, for me, is something.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
This is a great thing .
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I mean a full circle.
So this was my experience inthis area.
Honestly, I really liked towatch him.
I really liked when he gave mecourses that I could tell him.
Please explain to me anythinghe wants to understand.
But as for the celebrities, no,he was always with people
because he was also doing thetest for, for example, the
(13:00):
makeup of a film or something,so people would come to his
studio.
So I was always trying toattend without embarrassing him,
so that he doesn't become hisown daughter.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
What's the most celebrity you saw when you were
young and you felt like what'sthe biggest deal in the industry
?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
When I was young I didn't know much about
celebrities big deal in theindustry.
In my age I wasn't able toappreciate it.
I still look at the picture.
I posted it on my social media.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I know it's so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
This is a small example from this place.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Did you always feel interested in fashion and beauty
, or were you a tomb fashion andbeauty?
Or were you a tomboy when youwere young and then you started
to be a tomboy and you wanted todo your hair and makeup and all
that?
I was never a tomboy oh okay, Iwas never a tomboy.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Actually, maybe lately, when I grew up, I became
more of a tomboy.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think all of us are tomboy now Exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, but when I was young, I loved everything that
had anything to do with girls.
Even when I was a baby, I lovedbabies and to feed them.
Actually, they have all thesefake things in their food.
(14:42):
I love Barbie dolls.
I cut their hair and put makeupon them.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm basically a beauty queen all my life a
beauty queen beauty, enthusiast,everything.
Tell me now, honestly you grewup in Cairo, all your life in
Cairo, in Egypt.
When did you feel you grew upin Cairo, right?
Yes, all your life in Cairo, inEgypt.
(15:10):
When did you feel that youwanted to, as they say, walk in
your father's footsteps and takeyour father's career, which is
makeup artistry, seriously?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Okay, Initially.
I mean, I've been here foreight years and I know.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I want to be a makeup artist and I want to tell you
something he didn't make me growup on this and he didn't tell
me that you're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I mean, usually the father tells his children that
you're going to grow up like me,you're going to take over my
job.
You don't need to work at all.
I came from inside.
I've been working for 8 years,wow.
And I started working when Iwas in school.
I was trying to train and ifsomeone wanted to do free makeup
(15:59):
, they would come to the studio.
I was offering people Training.
Yes, I've been here for 14years.
I was offering people Trainingyes, wow, since I was, I think,
14 years old and I was even.
I was attending when they weredoing Fashion shows.
I was attending and workingwith them.
And from the social media, forexample Okay, I tried to make
(16:20):
you laugh, no, please.
I took my Social mediaseriously Since, for example,
since 2015.
I took my social mediaseriously, for example, since
2015.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But yeah, I wanted to ask you this question.
At first you were justPracticing and training, but now
Social media is a story.
Because Abdelhamid on socialmedia Is a legend?
Because not only Is yourcontent engaging, this is a
story, honestly, because AyaAbdulhamid on social media is a
talk.
Why?
Because not only is yourcontent engaging, it's exciting,
it's informative.
(16:52):
The Tuesday tip really it'snice.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's nice.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, I mean, the people of Aya's channel wait for
it every Tuesday and talk aboutit with my friends.
Have you seen Aya's Tuesday tip?
Really?
No, really, my sister, everyone, I mean.
Hassan, you created, as you say, a system for yourself on
social media and it greworganically.
Yes, but at the same time, as amakeup artist, it wasn't.
Very honestly, makeup artistsweren't on social media very
(17:20):
much.
I mean, yes, they were puttheir work photos behind the
scenes, but the makeup artistwas not an influencer until
recently.
So you can tell me more?
Where did you start with socialmedia when you felt like you
were going for it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Okay.
Social media started, I think,in 2015.
Okay, I'm trying to remember,because I remember that I was
creating an account and my firstname was Makeup by Aya Makeup,
yes, do you remember?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I remember, I don't know why I didn't call him.
I know the OGs will know Makeupby Aya, but it was very chic,
but it was hard.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Babe, I don't speak French.
Why did you call it maquillageby A?
I have no idea.
We all have our faces.
I'm like because it was A, Idon't know if it was taken or
something, so I'm likemaquillage by A.
It wasn't clean, so I'm like ma.
So that was the first thing andI started to upload photos of
(18:30):
the makeup that I do.
Okay, and I used to do.
Tuesday.
Tips started really early on,but I used to do it.
I didn't.
I used to give tips already.
I put photos, examples, and Igive tips If someone has a
problem with something.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
You write the tips Exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I write them I write them and I put photos as a
reference, but I haven't madethe videos yet.
After that I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I think I started Tuesday Tips With I think two or
three years, no more, I thinkmore.
Okay, I think.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
For five years.
Okay, approximately Five years.
Three years, no more, no, Ithink more.
Okay, I think for five years.
Okay, okay, approximately fiveyears, four years.
Yeah, four and a half years.
I remember, with my marriage Iconnect it with when I moved the
house for the shoot.
I try to remember the shooting.
It was the setting.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
We were shooting at home.
It's the thing.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, actually I was filming at home.
More than five years Indeed.
I've been doing Tuesday tipsfor more than 50 years.
That's why I might have missedthe last few days.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
No, but they're amazing, they're iconic your.
Tuesday tips.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But I think I mean, I've been doing it for a while
and people loved it a lot.
They loved the idea that I maketheir makeup look easier,
exactly Because there are a lotof girls who are afraid of the
idea of products and thatthere's a lot of variety and
that I put what and do what.
So I was trying to go out in ashort video to explain to them
(19:58):
how easy it is for you to dosomething that looks
professional, but it's actuallyeasier than you expect and
generally, when did you feelthat your social media is
growing and people like it andfollowers are increasing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Is it more of a job?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
or not, definitely.
Social media is a full-time job.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I don't want to talk about this.
I'll tell you something.
Everyone thinks that she'sposting content and she puts
photos and videos and it's veryeasy.
It takes hours, it's a lot oftime but honestly it pays off.
In hours you feel like you're amakeup artist, but you're also
kind of an influencer right now,obviously, no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Obviously, obviously, time.
It's really a full-time job.
I mean, for example, in thepast I used to go and do makeup
and then I do my job.
You take money from the job andyou leave, but now, if you
don't film your job and you postit, you don't work.
I mean, a lot of people thinkthat oh, she's a little bit lost
(21:23):
from social media, but she'snot working.
She's not working as before.
I'm traveling and I'm doingfashion week and I'm working and
I'm trying to shoot content,but I don't have time to put it.
So people are connecting yourposting with Whether you're
working or relevant.
(21:43):
So that's the problem for me.
That's the negative thing Insocial problem for me.
This is the negative thing insocial media for me that you
have to constantly post andconstantly be relatable and post
things that people areinterested in, to see you and
your work and your clothes andyour skin care and your personal
life.
Everything it's a blessing, butat the same time, your personal
(22:06):
life it's a blessing, but Atthe same time it's not the
easiest thing, because we'rehuman.
We go through a lot Emotionallyand mentally.
Maybe no one is ready To put,for example, I do everything by
myself.
I mean the editing, thephotography.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
You don't have an assistant who does the editing
specifically.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
No, I mean maybe in events, maybe in something, but
for me the Tuesday tips, all mystuff, it's all me.
So it gets hectic Because I'm,let's say, in a photo, I have 18
hours and I go out with a brideto do her makeup, and then I go
back and I have to post.
But I really get drained, butat the same time I feel guilty
(22:56):
that I'm not posting enough, sopeople will feel that I'm not
there.
I mean, it plays with your head, very, very very.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's such an interesting point.
I never thought you would saythat and I really felt, wow,
you're right, specifically inyour field.
If you didn't put it, peoplemight feel I'm not posting and
you might be, for example, mostbusy time and booked in your
life and not posting.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I'm just not posting about it.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
But I want to know what's the most negative or
mentally difficult thing Insocial media, because it's a big
part of your job and obviouslyyou're a makeup artist, but, as
you said, social media is amajor, major, major tool.
So what's the most difficultthing?
Do you find any criticism, forexample, negative comments, all
of these things?
How do you deal with it?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Honestly, the hardest thing in social media Is
consistency, To stay disciplined, to have a schedule To post
this and this and make a list Ofthings I need to post.
Consistency, especially with mywork.
If I'm't share it, it's hard,so it's tricky.
(24:10):
Honestly, negative comments Inmy field there won't be hate
comments In the way you imagine,because usually it can be For
example, critique on makeup, butfor me it's not hate comments.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It could be, for example, a critique on makeup or
something.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But I think for me it's not hate comments, it's
just a person who doesn't likethis style and another person I
feel honestly if you have anaudience, they love you.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I swear I'm not just saying that there are people who
hate comments and there'snegativity, but I think you have
a positive community.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Alhamdulillah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Alhamdulillah.
Community it's really positive.
They love you Girls.
They're not really out to hatethey don't want to put any
negativity out there.
Alhamdulillah, we love you.
Yes, we love you.
Okay, we want to go to the list.
I have to read.
Okay, so Aya has worked with.
I'm going to list like a few welove you.
Okay, we want to go into thelist.
(25:06):
I have to read the subtitlesbecause I have to read.
Okay, so Aya has worked with.
I'm gonna list like a few, butthere's a lot more, okay, okay.
So, Hind Sabri, by the way, ifyou want to drink matcha, drink
okay.
So, some of the celebritiesyou've worked with, we don't
have all day, so I'll just say afew Hind Sabri, Yasmeen Sabri,
(25:30):
Asmaa Galil Yusra, obviously,Mona Zaki Toramed, Maya Deeb,
Ruby Eliana and many, many more,Okay, many more.
You glam them up for filmfestivals.
You do makeup for, for example,fashion shows.
You do makeup for fashion showsParis Fashion Week, New York
(25:50):
Fashion Week, things like thatand I want to know what your
process is.
I mean, how do you prepare themost?
I want to know because you, ofcourse, you deal with big
personalities.
As people say, everyone hastheir own personality, everyone
has their own mood, vibe andenergy.
And the makeup artist I feellike it's a very intimate role.
(26:11):
You're close, close to theperson sitting with me maybe an
hour.
So how do you prepare for this?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Okay, From the perspective of festivals with
celebrities, usually thepreparations are before the
conversation with the stylist,for example, to know what she
will wear, what the stylist'svision is, and I also have my
(26:40):
input to send references.
And I also have my own inputthat I send references Because I
worked with these artists, so Iknow what I should wear and
what I shouldn't wear.
So I send my own input and thereferences I need For the makeup
look of the festival that Iwent to.
(27:00):
And there are a lot of timesVery fun fact that they don't
know what they're going to doand when we do the makeup
they're even know what they'regoing to do.
When we do the makeup they'restill unsure if they're going to
wear this or that.
I mean, they still don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But that's amazing.
You get into the situation, butthis happens a lot, noor,
really, that they don't haveoptions.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
They still don't know .
Oh, so you're styling on thespot, exactly, oh, okay, exactly
.
And there are many times whenyou have to do makeup that
matches anything you wear, okay,but at the same time, it looks
nice on camera in real life.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
So you change for example, there are more looks.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes, or she still doesn't know what she's going to
wear.
This happens a lot.
You do makeup and you're notgoing for a certain style.
You're working on how tocomplete it and how to match it
to what you're wearing.
So that's the most tricky thingin the whole thing, but it's so
fun.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That is so fun.
Okay, so I want to know whatwas your favorite show or
festival or moment in yourcareer.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I feel like it really a big thing there are a lot of
moments, to be honest.
I'll tell you a few things.
It's not one thing.
It was a film festival for me.
Huge Paris fashion week, newYork fashion week for me.
(28:25):
Definitely Huge Paris FashionWeek, new York Fashion Week For
me too.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
You were doing, for example because he's a designer.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Pat Bow Parabell Co.
Nina Richie Anthony.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Insane, yeah, and the energy is really like Running.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Running, you run, but you don't understand the
adrenaline that you feel it'sdangerous.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You don't need to eat , you don't need to drink no, no
, there's no such thing aseating and drinking.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
There's no such thing , no no these are things I saw a
few stories.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
The most funny stories are, for example, 5am on
a flight and then 2 minutesglamming New York Fashion Week.
I'm like wow how do you haveany preparation rituals for
yourself, for yourself as amakeup artist, to prepare for
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makeup?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
honestly, with time and experience you get used to a
certain routine.
You get everything ready tomake sure you have everything
you need in the kit, becauseyou're not sure what you can do,
as I said.
So you have to be ready for anysurprise.
You have to be ready to haveall the products that you might
(29:48):
need.
Not that I'll take the thingsthat she usually does.
No, I'll take more things.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'll take everything that I need.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So that I'm ready for any surprises.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Okay, this is a hard question, I know.
But, for example, what is themost look you did once?
I mean you felt that not onlyyou liked it, but your audience
liked it.
I mean you posted it andeveryone said, wow, it's amazing
.
One look Give me, for example.
Actually not one look, becauseyou have a lot of stuff.
Give me, for example, two orthree.
Two or three, oh on, likedifferent people, I mean I think
(30:33):
Maya Diab in the opening was afilm festival.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It was insane.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I think that was, and her look in general.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Because it was different from what she was
doing and at the same time, itreally showed her beauty.
So people really liked it.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Um, um, um, um um um, um, um, um, um um um, um, um
(31:13):
inside out.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So that's why what else can we talk about?
Eliana was in Guna FilmFestival.
Her performance, I think it wasso angelic and very soft and
similar.
I mean I really liked that look.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Eliana.
Honestly, I think when I sawyou doing makeup for Eliana, I
was like wow, not just becauseshe's at the time and she still
is like an incredible artist.
She's an artist by God, but thelook was amazing.
The look was so really justperfect for her.
(31:52):
And how was it actually doingher makeup look was so fallen,
just perfect for her.
And how was it us on doing hermakeup.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It was so fun.
Personality to the stage, butshe's actually.
She's so quiet and sweet and,yeah, she's very cute honestly,
I enjoyed working with her.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I think that was an amazing moment, especially at
the Guna Film Festival at thetime.
Is there any other looks thatyou can think of?
She looks a lot.
Give me one more.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
One more that you can think of one more, maybe the
one that One more that you canthink of.
One more maybe, what peopleliked a lot?
Maybe the episode of AsmaaGalal with Mona Shazly?
Yes, that's right, I rememberthat well?
Yes, that was what people likeda lot, a lot, a lot actually.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Okay.
So I want to know the behindthe scenes of the life of a
makeup artist.
People often remember it as aglam life, and it is.
It is there's a lot of glam andwe will get into this honestly,
but what are the things thatpeople don't know about being a
makeup artist?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
generally look, it also depends on you.
The makeup artistry generallyis a really broad field.
There are many sections.
Do you work in TV and film, intheater, in fashion week, in
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bridal, as you see, for example,I work in theater, in ads, in
TV and film.
I work in runway in fashionweek, in festivals.
I work in the theater, I workin ads, tv and film.
I work in the runway in thefashion week, in the festivals.
(33:43):
I work in the shows, I work inthe special effects, all of
these things.
So the dates are the things thatI can tell you are not
glamouries at all.
The schedule, the unknownschedule that you always Get
into, is the most Tired thing.
Okay, the idea that you don'thave A fixed schedule Is a
tiring thing.
The idea that you work Onholidays and on weekends Is also
(34:07):
something that's not the bestthing For your personal life,
right, but this is the part partI can tell you about.
And you have a bigresponsibility For the bride.
You should make her the bestmakeup in her life, because this
is the only day Pressure, ifyou don't have experience.
(34:30):
It's a high pressure and, fromthe celebrities' point of view,
they'll be on the red carpet andpeople will zoom in until they
understand.
Go their soul Go, their literalsoul.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I feel that you're right.
Scheduling is not glamorous atall, but, in general, sharing
things on social media, ofcourse it is a glamorous life.
There's is a glamorous life.
It has a very glamorous aspect,of course, of course.
But I want to know what issomething you've never shared on
social media, something youdon't know at all about me, that
you can tell us about you.
That's a personality trait, Imean behind the scenes, which is
(35:07):
the persona versus me, okay.
Okay, something people don'tknow about you.
You, you never share this parton social media.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Okay, there are a lot of people maybe only my friends
who I know or people who areclose to me, even if they're not
all my friends.
Okay, I get social anxietynormally.
No way, I swear.
No, I mean when I attend eventsor something.
No, of course I swear, I panic.
I'll tell you something.
People think I'm a tinker whenI attend an event, I'm sorry.
But I'm your friend, but Idon't know what social anxiety
(35:38):
is, I'll explain it to you andI'll explain it to everyone.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Because of this topic .
No guys In events Like nose up,Like phone, chest back Girl.
I have a bad eyesight.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
At night, so I really can't see.
If anyone knows me In the eventat night.
Please come say hi, because I'mnot a good listener.
I'm really not a good listener.
I understand what you mean,especially if I'm alone.
At any event, I get socialanxiety almost from the time of
Corona.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yes, yes, yes, we all have a high level of anxiety.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
So I'm convinced that I don't know how to deal with
it.
Unless someone starts talkingto me, then I'll be fine, but
before that I'll be in a bubbleand I'll be upset and people
feel that this is a disaster.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's not a disaster.
I don't see it as a disaster.
I'm afraid of death.
I feel A lot of tension BetweenA lot of people.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
So Okay, but I think that's a really interesting fact
, because I myself Don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I see you at events and I see you In everything.
But I'm fine.
I just come say hi, exactly, ifI know you, but I think I can
feel why people Think that,because sometimes you can be a
bit intimidating in the sense oflike, oh Lua, I don't see you,
I don't see you, I don't see you, who, sorry?
(37:03):
So you won the CharlotteTilbury Makeup Artist of the
Year Arabia Award.
This is huge.
I feel like at the beginning ofCharlotte Tilbury, we're all
obsessed, obviously, and sherecently opened in the Middle
East and there are stores inDubai and everywhere else.
Her makeup is amazing.
We all know this and you mether, obviously Like she's your
(37:24):
bestie and she's an amazing,amazing woman.
But can you tell me how thishappened?
You won the Makeup Artist ofthe Year?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
This was last year, woman, but can you tell me how
this happened?
You won the makeup artist ofthe year.
Congratulations again, thankyou.
Congratulations again, thankyou.
She's as bubbly as she looks oncamera.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The energy starts coming out of the screen.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And it's like that in fact, it's dangerous and you
remember details.
For example, I saw it in anevent from 5 months after that.
You see me, you remember thethings we talked about and you
talk to me about it.
It's I think we have a mutuallove.
That's so nice and this issomething when I think it's a
(38:32):
very nice thing and this issomething that, when I think
about it, I feel like Because Iused to watch her YouTube videos
.
Her brand was still juststarting, so I used to watch her
YouTube tutorials and I used towatch her dad and introduce her
to him.
So the idea that last year shegave me this title was a big
thing for me and we did a lot ofthings together.
(38:53):
For example, the film festivalwas with Charlotte Tilbury.
Nina Ritchie was with CharlotteTilbury.
I represented her in a lot oflooks with a lot of celebrities.
So we did Disney the shoot ofDisney together in London.
(39:14):
It was an amazing experienceand I still cherish the things
we did together and theexperience and I got to know her
and I got to know her and shegot to know me.
It was an amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It was honestly a dangerous experience.
You felt like winning that.
You won the award of CharlotteTilbury Makeup Artist of the
Year in Arabia.
It opened up doors for you inthe MENA region in the GCC.
You were doing makeup all overBecause makeup artists travel.
They go to, for example, if youhave a bride outside, etc.
But did it change anything inyour career?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Definitely, definitely.
I think it increased the GCCarea Because I used to travel
and do a lot of master classesOf Charlotte In Riyadh and in
Jeddah and in Dubai and AbuDhabi, so the people who see me
(40:16):
or attend my classes.
This increases my followers andincreases the people who know
me career-wise in the GCC area.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
What advice would you give to a makeup artist right
now, anyone who wants to becomea makeup artist, because, of
course, the situation right nowis you can't just be like you
said, you can't to be a makeupartist, because, of course, the
situation right now is that youcan't just be a makeup artist.
You need to have a social mediapresence, you need to have
documentation of your work.
Of course, there are manythings and there are many skills
(40:47):
.
I think, much more than before,you need to have them to be a
makeup artist today.
So what advice can you give tobe with them to be a makeup
artist today?
So what advice would you giveto young makeup artists?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
there's no one advice .
But the most important thing isif you really love this job
because a lot of people work onit just to be relevant not the
idea that I love this job,because a lot of people work
there just to be relevant, notthe idea that you love this job
(41:20):
but if you're passionate aboutit, take as many courses as you
can from different people.
This will increase your skill.
Work as much as you can inpeople you know and train a lot
of people before you actuallyenter skill.
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,uh uh.
(41:49):
They are in a hurry to reachthe celebrity they want content.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Exactly so they are.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
They are depending on the work that can reach them,
and I see a lot of examples Fromthis side that they feel that
they are older than they trained, for example, than they go down
as assistants To people who arealready old.
All of these things help you todevelop the experience and
(42:17):
skill to reach what you want inthe end, and so you will reach
it if you strive.
I strongly believe in thispoint that you strive in the
work that you want to achieve,whatever it is, and do what you
have to do and really put in theeffort and really God makes it
easy and helps a lot To reachthe goal that you want.
So a lot of exercise it's veryimportant.
(42:38):
Your hand always has to stayactive, because it's a muscle
memory too.
Like people who draw, you haveto constantly draw Because after
a while your hand can forget,your muscle memory gets weak, so
you need to exercise.
So constantly keep your.
(43:17):
I think this is my biggestadvice Do the work, put in the
effort.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I love your advice honestly and I think to be
humble in your work is reallyimportant because I feel like
you're one of the most peoplewho, on social media, you have
over 700,000 followers, I thinksomething like that and a lot of
people, even if the perceptionyou're glam and the perception
of the other one that now wecracked it, guys, but you have a
really nice thing that and theperception of the other one that
now we cracked it socialanxiety, we cracked it guys.
(43:55):
But there's something reallynice about you that you are such
a kind person, very kind, verycomfortable, really.
I remember one time when I gotmy makeup and I was stressed
they gave me.
They gave me.
They were like it's okay, we'lldo it on time, and it was
amazing.
(44:15):
So I think this part is a bigpart of your success.
You're like it's okay, we'll doit on time, and it was amazing.
So I think this part is a bigpart of your success as a
character.
You have to be simple and, atthe end of the day, I think you
deal with a lot of situationsthat are very big and very glam.
I think the last thing I wantto ask you honestly is what's
next for Aya?
What's next in?
Speaker 2 (44:37):
the pipeline.
There's something, but honestlyI'll leave it to myself for now
.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I don't want to jinx anything okay, fair, I was just
talking about that, but I'lltell you later, but inshallah,
inshallah.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I was just talking about that.
Yeah, but I'll tell you later.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
But hopefully.
Hopefully Is there a teaser tip.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
There's a little bit you can ask me honestly.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Okay, I'll do it at this point.
It's an exclusive.
I think your real followers canguess.
I think so too.
Yeah, okay, amazing.
Okay, hanam and Maki.
Two questions Okay, we're notreally strangers.
Okay, we're not reallystrangers.
This is one of my favoritegames.
Okay, I'll choose one.
(45:23):
Okay, okay, if you play acharacter in a movie, okay, who
will you be?
The villain or the good girl?
Speaker 2 (45:41):
if I play seriously.
I would love to play a villain,because it will be the opposite
of my personality.
So I would like to discoverthis part, since some people saw
me, so let's see this parttogether in the film.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You feel like I might play Cinderella, but imagine
Maleficent yes.
I feel that too, I agree withyou.
Okay, a second question.
Um, let's see, I guess I knowhow to say splurge on.
(46:18):
If you have a budget to buysomething, what else can you
splurge on Except makeup, I know?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
you're going to say makeup.
You saw it in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
You're like makeup For me.
There's money.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I think oh, it's tricky.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Like one thing, oh splurge.
Like one thing, Spludge.
Maybe a split Because you'reinto shoes, do you?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
have a shoe collection?
Yeah, I started.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
I started this recently.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I didn't have any interest in this shoe at all,
but I started to feel like Ilike you.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
I like you, I like you, so it's basically a pair of
shoes.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Heels or sneakers.
Sneakers and heels Maybesomething in them, but I think
shoes Okay cool.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Okay.
So Before I ask for yourcuration, I want to know what
are your go-to or must-havemakeup products.
What are some of your go-to ormust-have makeup products?
Speaker 2 (47:33):
A lip tint, a lip balm, anything that has to do
with lips, a lip liner?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Lip liner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Everything.
Lip products generally aresomething I can't get rid of.
Okay, I can't, and I use themeverywhere, like on my cheeks,
on my eye.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
What's your lipstick today?
Oh, it's a mix.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh, my God.
Makeup artist answer it's a mix.
I never put on one color.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Okay, if I show you For example, there's like three
mixed together Like four mixedtogether, alright, and our last
question is our signaturequestion on the podcast, which
is what is your curation asAbdelhamid?
So, basically, what is yourcuration if there is, for
example, a couple of things thatyou can say that really elevate
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your life, you feel like theyreally matter in your life.
You can write anything, forexample, a certain food, a
certain habit, a certain book,okay, so what's your edit?
And you can think about it?
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I think it's exercise , okay, any form of it, but even
in dance classes pilates,pilates, boxing, anything that's
a big difference in my day Mustdo for you in a week Music.
Okay, music like this, musicmakes a big difference in my
(49:00):
mood.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Mm-hmm.
I want to know.
I want to know a detail like,for example, is there like a
certain flask that you can'tlive without?
Or like, for example, in mylife I have my hydro flask that
I?
Speaker 2 (49:36):
can't live without.
For example, look at you, emo,look at my loved ones a certain
flask.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
No, no, no, I swear.
I want to go into details.
Like give them things that arelike super random, but very a
aloe socks.
I swear.
It's such an a thing.
I'm not kidding.
See, that's what I mean.
This is what I mean.
It's like a hack my good luck,okay, so her al.
(50:03):
My good luck.
Sock Okay, so her aloe socks.
I swear, every time Aya comesto Pilates guys, she's in aloe
socks.
It's a thing.
It's a thing, okay, we're goingto do what's in your bag with
Aya.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
Let's see, that's a big bag.
It's a big bag.
I'll tell you somethinghonestly Tell me At the outfit
that I can't wear a big bag.
So I have a small bag that Ican take out, but there's one in
the car.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
That's so funny, first of all when I'm talking
about the same thing, but I loveit.
Is it like vintage Dior?
Speaker 2 (50:30):
it is Dior.
Yes, beautiful.
Okay, let's go okay guys, we,this is a bag with a product.
Okay, let's start with the backpocket there's a phone iPhone,
of course with the stickyExactly.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
content creator.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Content creator.
The sign of a content creator.
Exactly the case of mysunglasses Love it poppy,
they're always amazing.
Okay, let's open it and seewhat's inside.
Let's go First of all.
No, there's a it and see what'sinside.
Let's go First of all this bag.
I'm just afraid of your mic.
It's messed up here.
(51:12):
You can keep it like this Bag.
This will be like this with me,so I can take any bag, even if
it's a small bag.
This will be like this Becauseit has my makeup.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I have so many.
Okay, so it's a couple ofproducts.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Okay, so the girls are dying to see a couple of
products.
Okay, so I have the collagenlip bath, which I really love,
love, um, um.
Nora's lipstick I love theirlipsticks.
A concealer from house labs.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
I tried it.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
That's nice a powder puff, oh my god.
With no powder, just a, just apuff.
Yeah, a lip tattoo situationokay blush no, I have.
I have.
I have a few CDs, so Iunderstand.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
I understand where the blush.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Is this right situation?
Speaker 1 (52:08):
okay, blush no, I have.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yes, I love it okay um lip balm and kosas nice, uh,
what else?
Speaker 1 (52:24):
What else?
The last product Okay, I gotexcited.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Hindash lipstick.
An eyeliner I said I want a few.
I want to show you everythingEyeliner.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Please, I think, honestly, I think girls are
going to make a list of this andlike go literally A skin tint
Okay.
A skin tint A Anastasia no,this is Charlotte Tilbury.
Charlotte Tilbury skin tintOkay, A skin tint, Anastasia no,
this is Charlotte Tilbury.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Charlotte Tilbury skin tint.
Okay, amazing, what else?
Eyeliners I have lip oil, wow.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
So the look you have today, your lips today, are a
mix of AirPods.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
AirPods, with the makeup, I love it.
It's so random.
Okay, okay, the lip combo Ihave today.
I With the makeup, I love it.
It's so random.
Okay, the okay, the, the, the,the lip combo today.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Oh, today, of course, I have it with me?
Speaker 2 (53:11):
Okay, so I have on my lips.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Okay, guys can we seriously?
Speaker 2 (53:18):
I have on my lips just six or seven things yeah
exactly, and I and I the lip,just six or seven things, yeah,
exactly, and a lip, a lip combois huge, okay, yeah, I mean, oh,
there we go, okay, okay.
So this is oh, wait, wait, onemore product, that's your lip
combo.
This is what I have.
(53:39):
Oh, my god, exactly, okay, lipline.
This is the eyeliner, the lipliner, the eyeliner, the
eyeliner because, I line my lipswith it and then I smooth the
lip liner with another lip linerOkay.
And then I put the lip tattooinside Okay, and then just dab
from Nars lipstick and over itjust to mute everything.
(54:00):
I use the Hindash lipstick inCall Me Peaches, okay, and then
Okay, and I put that on the side.
Everything I use, the hindashlipstick in call me peaches,
okay, all right um my wallet.
Love it gorgeous, thank you lv.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh, use the wire.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
I use wires, yeah I do, I do, but these are safer.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
They are safer.
I think I should go back andthen my perfume, today's perfume
.
What is it?
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Louis Vuitton Attrape Rêve.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
I hope I'm saying it right, it's so good, the minute
you walked in I gave you a hug.
I'm like beautiful, love it,it's actually so good.
It is, guys, I gave it a hug.
I'm like beautiful, love it,love it, it's actually so good.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
It is and it's fresh.
Do you want to see the mostimportant thing about your bag?
Okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Power bank Of course, I mean needed.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
This is a lifesaver Just a hair clip, just a clip.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
Yeah, I love it, and so this is like a big bag for
you or normal, no, no, this is abig bag.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
This is a big bag this is everything I need
honestly amazing guys list.
Speaker 1 (55:10):
I think I'm going to have to put captions.
Yeah, what's an A bag?
Okay, thank you so much becausethis was so much fun.
I loved having you on thepodcast and I feel like this
episode really, and I feel likethis episode will inspire you,
as a girl, to be a makeup artist.
Thank you.
That's a wrap, guys.
(55:30):
Thank you, cut, we're done.
How was the episode for you?
It was amazing, it was so fun,but at first, I didn't feel like
it was the right time.
You felt like it was casual.
I felt like it was the righttime.
It was crazy, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Time Did you feel it was casual.
I felt the time was coming.
It was crazy.
What did we do?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, I mean literally like 40 minutes, which
is crazy.
But can you imagine?
Wow, that's insane, like Iswear.
I thought it was 20 minutes.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
But I'm happy you enjoyed it.
But, it was so delicious youranswers were so cute.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
I love them and we do the double subs, but so thank
you, ayyush, let's take apicture.
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