John and I met for the interview at his office, the type of space that works very hard just to keep up and yet remain ultimately indistinguishable from the other offices in midtown Manhattan. In this office, I could imagine John and I being introduced for professional reasons - we both work in finance - but instead, we were meeting as two dads to talk about fatherhood. In a nod to the professional environment around us, the start of our conversation felt like water cooler small talk, and to be honest, I was worried that John and I would be held back by our shared professional customs and mannerisms that insist on keeping things, well, professional rather than personal. Thankfully, to borrow from St. Augustine, even though we were physically meeting in a building prototypical to the City of Man, by the end of our conversation, we would find ourselves seated at a communal table in the City of God.
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