September 2, 2025 • 13 mins
A group of prominent Australian athletes has signed an open letter calling on the Federal Government to commit to an emissions reduction target of at least 75% below 2005 levels by 2035. Sport for 75%, the campaign behind the letter, says: “In sport, we understand ambitious goals, and understand what it means to achieve them. When it comes to climate, we expect the same from our leaders.” The pledge has been signed by Matildas player Alex Chidiac, ex-Socceroo Craig Foster, Fremantle Captain Alex Pearce, and AFLW legend Nicola Barr. To tell us more about Sport for 75, Barr joins us for today’s deep dive.
Hosts: Emma Gillespie and Lucy Tassell
Guest: Nicola Barr, AFLW player, Project and Engagement Director at FrontRunners
Producer: Orla Maher
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Already and this is this is the Daily ARS.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is the Daily OS.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to
the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the third of September. I'm
Emma Gillespie, I'm Lucy Tassel. A group of prominent Australian
athletes have signed an open letter calling on the federal
(00:26):
government to commit to an emissions reduction target of at
least seventy five percent below two thousand and five levels
by twenty thirty five. Sport four seventy five percent. The
campaign behind the letter says, quote in sport, we understand
ambitious goals and understand what it means to achieve them.
When it comes to climate, we expect the same from
(00:48):
our leaders.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The pledge has been signed by professionals from across the
fields of the AFL rugby union, soccer, surfing, cycling, snow sports,
athletics and beyond. Include Dating Matilda's player Alex chidiak Ex
socru Craig Foster, Freemantle captain Alex Pierce and AFLW legend
Nicola Barr.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Barr joined GWS as the number one pick in the
inaugural AFLW draft in twenty sixteens. After nine seasons with
the Giants, she signed with Saint Kilda last year. But
off the field, Bar works with several climate and environment groups,
including front Runners and Athlete Led Conservation Organization and the
(01:29):
group behind Sport for seventy five. To tell us more
about this letter and what it's calling for, Barr joins
us for today's deep dive.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Before we get into it, here's a quick word from
our sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Nicola Barr. Welcome to the Dally Os Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We are very excited to be chatting to you today.
We are talking about this Sport for seventy five initiative.
The campaign is calling for a seventy five percent emissions
reduction by twenty thirty five. Why this targets specifically, Where
is the seventy five coming from?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, well, I guess what we know is that seventy
five percent is a really strong target and it's what
the experts are telling us, and so that's why we're
calling for a seventy five percent reduction in Australia's emissions.
And we know that it's not just good for the economy,
it's also good for sport and that's why athletes are
jumping on board and really trying to call for meaningful action.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I want to understand a little bit more about
why this initiative matters to athletes. We've got professional sports people,
retired sports people from across a whole range of different sports.
What is it about this diverse coalition that works why?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look, I think this really started as well from the
amazing leadership of the Business for seventy five campaign. They've
had some amazing companies like Fortescue and Unilever and lend
Lease and Ika all jump on board calling for a
target of seventy five percent as well. And I think
of athletes, you know, we're seeing climate change impact sport
(03:04):
across all different kinds of sports and codes. And what
we know as athletes is that whilst it's impacting us
at the elite level, the biggest impacts are on grassroots
sport and community sport. And we grew up playing sport,
loving sport, and really want future generations of kids to
be able to experience the same things that we did
as kids. And I guess for athletes, you know, we're
(03:27):
role models in society a lot of the time, and
our voice can have a really positive impact.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So I guess joining.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Together is a really nice way to be able to
call for meaningful action from our government. We know that
in Australia we punch well above our weight when it
comes to the world stage on sport, and we think
that we can when it comes to climate action as well.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
How has extreme weather or climate change impacted your playing career?
Have you seen it firsthand? What does that look like?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, when we had
the Black Summer bush fire, I was playing for the
Giants in Greater Western Sydney and I can remember running
out to training in what felt like apocalyptic conditions.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
We sort of ran outside.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
There was the sky was orange, there was ash in
the sky, and we were doing laps around the oval
and couldn't even breathe properly. And I guess that the
conversation that I'd had with my teammates at the time was,
you know, if this is impacting us and we have
all the resources to adapt and change our training so
that we can stay safe, what does this kind of
experience mean for younger athletes and grassroots athletes?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And so that was probably.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The first time that happened, and then since then, you know,
we played in extreme heat conditions. We've played in Blacktown
in thirty six degrees and even this year alone in
the AFL we saw Round one rescheduled due to cyclone Alfred.
We've seen extreme heat, you know, even into Round five
that gather around in Adelaide. So it's impacting all sports.
(04:54):
I've just caught out a couple of AFL examples because
that's where I played. But we know that, you know,
even recently a report on the impacts of climate on cricket,
and so many games are being impacted by extreme weather.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And it's not just the athletes who are suffering.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's the sports fans that go there, it's the coaches,
it's the volunteers. This is something that impacts everyone who
loves sport, and in Australia, sports such a huge part
of the way we live our lives and we want
to do everything we can to make sure everyone can
experience it into the future.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I think the cricket example is really interesting because
you know, while we're not all professional athletes, we are
a sporting nation. There are so many of us who
love being spectators and supporting our favorite sporting codes, you know,
whatever they may be. It's interesting to think about the
impact of what that's like on the other side, you know,
sitting in the stands of the SCG for a test
(05:42):
on a forty degree day and the health impacts there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah. Absolutely. Like I said, it's not just the athletes
that this is impacting. It's impacting everyone involved in sport.
And I know we've seen several examples of you know,
fans who are sitting in the stands or in the
ground suffering from heat exhaustion.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It does become a real to sport itself.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So we really want to make sure that the sport's
doing everything that it can to protect itself into the
future and to safeguard fans, athletes, volunteers, coaches, everyone involved.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The open letter states in sport, we understand ambitious goals.
How does your mindset as an athlete translate into your
approach to goal setting and climate advocacy.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I guess when we were thinking about this at front Runners,
we really thought, you know, what do athletes think, and
I certainly know from my own experience, like you always
want to set the bar really high for yourself and
for your team, and we just thought, why would we
not do the same when it comes to climate action, Like,
why would we set ourself a goal that is like
(06:45):
too easy to achieve or not ambitious. That's not what
we do when we're thinking about high performance and wanting
to get the best out of ourselves. We always set high,
high goals and high expectations and often we can end
up achieving them because we put things in plays to
make sure that we can actually reach that goal. So yeah,
I think it's just a really great metaphor to think
about when we think about athletes setting high goals for themselves.
(07:08):
We know that we can do the same when it
comes to climate action and reducing our emissions here in Australia.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
There's obviously a policy push here that will require action
from lawmakers. But what can competitions like the AFLW be
doing to better support players through a climate crisis.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, it's a great point. And in AFLW, we actually
used to play over the summer months, which was, you know,
looking back now is crazy. We had games I mentioned
before where we play in really extreme heat conditions of
like thirty six degrees plus. So we have shifted the
competition to now be played over the more winter and
I guess spring months as well, which is definitely helping that. Unfortunately,
(07:49):
we are seeing hotter days creep into those months outside
of summer as well, so it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Is really something to consider.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think what sports governing bodies like the AFL can
continue to do is advocate and speak really positively about
climate action to their fans and followers, but also thinking
really practically about what they can do. It's all about
making sure there's a really strong heat policy and that
everyone's across what that means and what that looks like,
(08:17):
making sure that everyone knows actually where the heat policy
sits and what it means for them, but also making
sure we're moving away from high polluting sponsors as well.
That's a really important part of what sport can do
when it comes to positive role modeling as well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
There's a lot of conversation in the news at the
moment about emissions reduction targets, a push within the nationals
to scrap net zero. Do you feel that there are
maybe some misunderstandings or some myths that need to be
busted in the emissions reduction space. Is there something that
(08:52):
you wish you could clarify or that you're trying to
clarify through sport for seventy five.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Look, I think I would start off by saying I'm
definitely not an industrial systems analyst or economic model, but
what I do know is that are plenty of experts
out there, like the climate change authorities Matt keain an
New's professor Frank Jotsoe explaining that this target actually is
really achievable. Like we said before, what's the point of
(09:19):
setting targets if they're easy to hit. That's definitely what
our mindset is as athletes, and I think the other
thing to say is that a show has always been
an innovator. We've got the highest penetration of rooftop solar
in the world, and already forty percent of our electricity
comes from renewable sources. So we're in pole position to
demonstrate our leadership on emissions reduction. And if we want
to do things like host the next cop and show
(09:41):
communities and the rest of the world that we're really
serious about this, we do need to commit to it
with an ambitious target.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
What needs to be done from here? How do we
increase our targets to incorporate those ambitions to make this possible.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, look, I think that the other thing I should
have said before is that our current climate commitments by
states and territories already point to a reduction of between
sixty six to seventy one percent by twenty thirty five.
So a national target of seventy five percent is absolutely
within our reach.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So I think now it's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Just about having conversations with the right people to make
sure that we are setting this really ambitious target. And
we can see that so many people want this here
in Australia. You know, we've had seventy five athletes for
seventy five percent reduction, and you know we're getting athletes
jumping on board this campaign more and more as we speak,
and we can see that business really wants this as well.
So I think it's just about having the right conversations
(10:38):
and working together to make sure that we can protect
the future for generations to come.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Looking ahead to twenty thirty five, if this campaign is successful,
what do you hope the sporting landscape will look like?
How will it be different from today?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I think what it'll look like is more of what
we love right. Sport brings us together.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's a place where we can cheer for our teams,
commiserate if they're not going well, and it's a place
where we can have a lot of joy. Whether that's
elite sport or community sport. It's one of those places
that is there for everyone. Sport is there for everyone,
and it's a really important place that we can, I guess,
come together in times of hardship as well. There's a
(11:21):
lot going on in the world, and I think for
us at front As, sport is such a beautiful way
for us to connect as community and it really shows
what we can be like at our best. So for me,
what it looks like is sport continuing to be a
huge part of our society moving forward. It's great for
our health, it's great for our communities, and we just
want to see that be able to continue into the future.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's sein I see your passion, Nikola. Before we let
you go, it's been a week since we broke here
at TDA the story from the incredible Mitch Brown coming
out as the first openly gay or bisexual male player
past or present in the AFL. Do you have a
sponsor a comment on that one to share with us today.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We think Mitch Brown is absolutely amazing here at front Runners.
He's actually supported a lot of our campaigns as well,
so we absolutely love what Mitch does.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
And really applaud him for his bravery and what he's been.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Able to do, particularly with you guys in the last
week in terms of what it means for the AFL
I really hope this is a positive step and mich
has been really brave to come out and do what
he's done. And I think Mitch even said in a
statement later to get along to an AFLW game, and
the reason for that is I think AFLW can show
how inclusive and amazing sport can be when we do
(12:35):
create safe spaces for people to be themselves. So just
really hope that what Mitch has done has a really
positive flow on effect. I know it's already had a
massive impact and just completely think he's awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So love Mitch, brilliant. Thank you so much for your time, Nick.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
No worries, thanks for having me, Emma A big thanks
to Nichola Barth for joining us on today's podcast. We'll
be back again this afternoon with the headlines. Until then,
have a great day.
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Already and this is this is the Daily ARS.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This is the Daily OS.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Oh now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to
the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the third of September. I'm
Emma Gillespie, I'm Lucy Tassel. A group of prominent Australian
athletes have signed an open letter calling on the federal
(00:26):
government to commit to an emissions reduction target of at
least seventy five percent below two thousand and five levels
by twenty thirty five. Sport four seventy five percent. The
campaign behind the letter says, quote in sport, we understand
ambitious goals and understand what it means to achieve them.
When it comes to climate, we expect the same from
(00:48):
our leaders.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The pledge has been signed by professionals from across the
fields of the AFL rugby union, soccer, surfing, cycling, snow sports,
athletics and beyond. Include Dating Matilda's player Alex chidiak Ex
socru Craig Foster, Freemantle captain Alex Pierce and AFLW legend
Nicola Barr.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Barr joined GWS as the number one pick in the
inaugural AFLW draft in twenty sixteens. After nine seasons with
the Giants, she signed with Saint Kilda last year. But
off the field, Bar works with several climate and environment groups,
including front Runners and Athlete Led Conservation Organization and the
(01:29):
group behind Sport for seventy five. To tell us more
about this letter and what it's calling for, Barr joins
us for today's deep dive.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Before we get into it, here's a quick word from
our sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Nicola Barr. Welcome to the Dally Os Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We are very excited to be chatting to you today.
We are talking about this Sport for seventy five initiative.
The campaign is calling for a seventy five percent emissions
reduction by twenty thirty five. Why this targets specifically, Where
is the seventy five coming from?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, well, I guess what we know is that seventy
five percent is a really strong target and it's what
the experts are telling us, and so that's why we're
calling for a seventy five percent reduction in Australia's emissions.
And we know that it's not just good for the economy,
it's also good for sport and that's why athletes are
jumping on board and really trying to call for meaningful action.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I want to understand a little bit more about
why this initiative matters to athletes. We've got professional sports people,
retired sports people from across a whole range of different sports.
What is it about this diverse coalition that works why?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look, I think this really started as well from the
amazing leadership of the Business for seventy five campaign. They've
had some amazing companies like Fortescue and Unilever and lend
Lease and Ika all jump on board calling for a
target of seventy five percent as well. And I think
of athletes, you know, we're seeing climate change impact sport
(03:04):
across all different kinds of sports and codes. And what
we know as athletes is that whilst it's impacting us
at the elite level, the biggest impacts are on grassroots
sport and community sport. And we grew up playing sport,
loving sport, and really want future generations of kids to
be able to experience the same things that we did
as kids. And I guess for athletes, you know, we're
(03:27):
role models in society a lot of the time, and
our voice can have a really positive impact.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So I guess joining.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Together is a really nice way to be able to
call for meaningful action from our government. We know that
in Australia we punch well above our weight when it
comes to the world stage on sport, and we think
that we can when it comes to climate action as well.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
How has extreme weather or climate change impacted your playing career?
Have you seen it firsthand? What does that look like?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, when we had
the Black Summer bush fire, I was playing for the
Giants in Greater Western Sydney and I can remember running
out to training in what felt like apocalyptic conditions.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
We sort of ran outside.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
There was the sky was orange, there was ash in
the sky, and we were doing laps around the oval
and couldn't even breathe properly. And I guess that the
conversation that I'd had with my teammates at the time was,
you know, if this is impacting us and we have
all the resources to adapt and change our training so
that we can stay safe, what does this kind of
experience mean for younger athletes and grassroots athletes?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And so that was probably.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The first time that happened, and then since then, you know,
we played in extreme heat conditions. We've played in Blacktown
in thirty six degrees and even this year alone in
the AFL we saw Round one rescheduled due to cyclone Alfred.
We've seen extreme heat, you know, even into Round five
that gather around in Adelaide. So it's impacting all sports.
(04:54):
I've just caught out a couple of AFL examples because
that's where I played. But we know that, you know,
even recently a report on the impacts of climate on cricket,
and so many games are being impacted by extreme weather.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
And it's not just the athletes who are suffering.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's the sports fans that go there, it's the coaches,
it's the volunteers. This is something that impacts everyone who
loves sport, and in Australia, sports such a huge part
of the way we live our lives and we want
to do everything we can to make sure everyone can
experience it into the future.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I think the cricket example is really interesting because
you know, while we're not all professional athletes, we are
a sporting nation. There are so many of us who
love being spectators and supporting our favorite sporting codes, you know,
whatever they may be. It's interesting to think about the
impact of what that's like on the other side, you know,
sitting in the stands of the SCG for a test
(05:42):
on a forty degree day and the health impacts there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah. Absolutely. Like I said, it's not just the athletes
that this is impacting. It's impacting everyone involved in sport.
And I know we've seen several examples of you know,
fans who are sitting in the stands or in the
ground suffering from heat exhaustion.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It does become a real to sport itself.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So we really want to make sure that the sport's
doing everything that it can to protect itself into the
future and to safeguard fans, athletes, volunteers, coaches, everyone involved.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
The open letter states in sport, we understand ambitious goals.
How does your mindset as an athlete translate into your
approach to goal setting and climate advocacy.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I guess when we were thinking about this at front Runners,
we really thought, you know, what do athletes think, and
I certainly know from my own experience, like you always
want to set the bar really high for yourself and
for your team, and we just thought, why would we
not do the same when it comes to climate action, Like,
why would we set ourself a goal that is like
(06:45):
too easy to achieve or not ambitious. That's not what
we do when we're thinking about high performance and wanting
to get the best out of ourselves. We always set high,
high goals and high expectations and often we can end
up achieving them because we put things in plays to
make sure that we can actually reach that goal. So yeah,
I think it's just a really great metaphor to think
about when we think about athletes setting high goals for themselves.
(07:08):
We know that we can do the same when it
comes to climate action and reducing our emissions here in Australia.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
There's obviously a policy push here that will require action
from lawmakers. But what can competitions like the AFLW be
doing to better support players through a climate crisis.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, it's a great point. And in AFLW, we actually
used to play over the summer months, which was, you know,
looking back now is crazy. We had games I mentioned
before where we play in really extreme heat conditions of
like thirty six degrees plus. So we have shifted the
competition to now be played over the more winter and
I guess spring months as well, which is definitely helping that. Unfortunately,
(07:49):
we are seeing hotter days creep into those months outside
of summer as well, so it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Is really something to consider.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think what sports governing bodies like the AFL can
continue to do is advocate and speak really positively about
climate action to their fans and followers, but also thinking
really practically about what they can do. It's all about
making sure there's a really strong heat policy and that
everyone's across what that means and what that looks like,
(08:17):
making sure that everyone knows actually where the heat policy
sits and what it means for them, but also making
sure we're moving away from high polluting sponsors as well.
That's a really important part of what sport can do
when it comes to positive role modeling as well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
There's a lot of conversation in the news at the
moment about emissions reduction targets, a push within the nationals
to scrap net zero. Do you feel that there are
maybe some misunderstandings or some myths that need to be
busted in the emissions reduction space. Is there something that
(08:52):
you wish you could clarify or that you're trying to
clarify through sport for seventy five.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Look, I think I would start off by saying I'm
definitely not an industrial systems analyst or economic model, but
what I do know is that are plenty of experts
out there, like the climate change authorities Matt keain an
New's professor Frank Jotsoe explaining that this target actually is
really achievable. Like we said before, what's the point of
(09:19):
setting targets if they're easy to hit. That's definitely what
our mindset is as athletes, and I think the other
thing to say is that a show has always been
an innovator. We've got the highest penetration of rooftop solar
in the world, and already forty percent of our electricity
comes from renewable sources. So we're in pole position to
demonstrate our leadership on emissions reduction. And if we want
to do things like host the next cop and show
(09:41):
communities and the rest of the world that we're really
serious about this, we do need to commit to it
with an ambitious target.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
What needs to be done from here? How do we
increase our targets to incorporate those ambitions to make this possible.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, look, I think that the other thing I should
have said before is that our current climate commitments by
states and territories already point to a reduction of between
sixty six to seventy one percent by twenty thirty five.
So a national target of seventy five percent is absolutely
within our reach.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So I think now it's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Just about having conversations with the right people to make
sure that we are setting this really ambitious target. And
we can see that so many people want this here
in Australia. You know, we've had seventy five athletes for
seventy five percent reduction, and you know we're getting athletes
jumping on board this campaign more and more as we speak,
and we can see that business really wants this as well.
So I think it's just about having the right conversations
(10:38):
and working together to make sure that we can protect
the future for generations to come.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Looking ahead to twenty thirty five, if this campaign is successful,
what do you hope the sporting landscape will look like?
How will it be different from today?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I think what it'll look like is more of what
we love right. Sport brings us together.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's a place where we can cheer for our teams,
commiserate if they're not going well, and it's a place
where we can have a lot of joy. Whether that's
elite sport or community sport. It's one of those places
that is there for everyone. Sport is there for everyone,
and it's a really important place that we can, I guess,
come together in times of hardship as well. There's a
(11:21):
lot going on in the world, and I think for
us at front As, sport is such a beautiful way
for us to connect as community and it really shows
what we can be like at our best. So for me,
what it looks like is sport continuing to be a
huge part of our society moving forward. It's great for
our health, it's great for our communities, and we just
want to see that be able to continue into the future.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's sein I see your passion, Nikola. Before we let
you go, it's been a week since we broke here
at TDA the story from the incredible Mitch Brown coming
out as the first openly gay or bisexual male player
past or present in the AFL. Do you have a
sponsor a comment on that one to share with us today.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
We think Mitch Brown is absolutely amazing here at front Runners.
He's actually supported a lot of our campaigns as well,
so we absolutely love what Mitch does.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
And really applaud him for his bravery and what he's been.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Able to do, particularly with you guys in the last
week in terms of what it means for the AFL
I really hope this is a positive step and mich
has been really brave to come out and do what
he's done. And I think Mitch even said in a
statement later to get along to an AFLW game, and
the reason for that is I think AFLW can show
how inclusive and amazing sport can be when we do
(12:35):
create safe spaces for people to be themselves. So just
really hope that what Mitch has done has a really
positive flow on effect. I know it's already had a
massive impact and just completely think he's awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
So love Mitch, brilliant. Thank you so much for your time, Nick.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
No worries, thanks for having me, Emma A big thanks
to Nichola Barth for joining us on today's podcast. We'll
be back again this afternoon with the headlines. Until then,
have a great day.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda
Bunjelung Calgutin woman from Gadighl country.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
The Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on
the lands of the Gadighl people and pays respect to
all Aboriginal and torrest rate island and nations.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
We pay our respects to the first peoples of these countries,
both past and present.
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