July 13, 2025 • 15 mins
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has nominated U.S. President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. It comes after Pakistan's Government also nominated him in June, making it Trump's second nomination in six months.
But what actually is the noble peace prize, and how does one… get one?
Today, we're looking at what these nominations mean and why Trump has been pursuing this prize since his first term in office.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Already and this is this is the Daily This is
the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Monday,
the fourteenth of July. I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Negnio, who has nominated US President
Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. It comes after
Pakistan's government also nominated him in June, making it Trump's
second nomination in six months. But what actually is a
Nobel Peace Prize? And how do we get one? Today
we're going to have a look at what these nominations
(00:41):
mean and why Trump has been pursuing this prize so
carefully since his first term in office.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Soam I like how you said how do we get one?
As though it's something that we could do.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Look, I don't think we should be closing ourselves off
in our twenties and thirties to the heights of winning
a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But I'm also not sure that we should set that
expectation on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I've settled some arguments in the office, and I think
that some of those have been so explosive that it's
worth the Peace Prize.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, moving on from what I would argue is actually
quite small office arguments, but I guess that is subjective.
Before we get into the specifics of these nominations, do
you want to explain what actually is a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So it's essentially a group of prizes run by a committee,
and the committee is named after Alfred Nobel, who was
an inventor, who was the inventor of dynamite, amongst other things,
and the committee awards an annual group of prizes for
achievements in economics, physics, chemistry, medicine, literature, and peace, which
(01:46):
we're talking about today.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So peace. The Nobel Peace Prize is just one of
the awards of the Nobel Prizes that you can get exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And what you'll notice from that list is that most
of them are actually science based or you know, have
some sort of kind of numbers and laws of the
universe behind it, and peace and literature probably the ones
that are more on the creative and more abstract side
of things. And the Peace Prize is really interesting because
it's awarded to one person or group a year and
(02:15):
there's five areas that they look at and if you've
made progress in one of the five, then you're eligible
for the award. And so the first is the control
of weapons and disarmament, the second is peace negotiations, the
third is democracy and human rights, the fourth is what
they call creating a better organized and more peaceful world,
and the fifth is limiting the effects of climate change.
(02:38):
And if you have made progress in one of them,
and you have the right person nominating you, and we'll
get to that in a sec you're in the running
for one of the most prestigious prizes on the planet.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I feel like progress is an understatement, like if you're
a pioneer in one of those areas, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's not easy. You have to be the headline. Yes,
And that's why there's you know, for a global prize.
There's not that many nominations every year, a couple of
hundred every year. And when you think about how much
happens in our world of seven billion, that's pretty remarkable.
Eight billion, eight billion.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
True.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And so we're talking about it today because US President
Donald Trump has been nominated by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Yahu.
I'm interested. Is there precedent for US presidents being nominated
or being awarded it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So there's been four US presidents that have been awarded
the Peace Prize in the past. The one most recently
to win the prize was Barack Obama in two thousand
and nine. Really interesting case that one, because he won
it only a couple of months into his presidency. So
he was elected to office at the end of two
thousand and eight, took office at the beginning of two
(03:44):
thousand and nine, and won a prize by the end
of that year.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Why did he get it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So he got it because the committee recognized his work
in beginning nuclear dism talks with Iran as well as
more normalized relationships with countries across the Middle Least. So
there wasn't a specific single act that got him that prize.
It was more of his approach to diplomacy being recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So, just to be clear, Barack Obama got it because
of nuclear de escalation in Iran.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, which is fascinating. He also didn't even get it
for you know, disarming Iran or anything. He got it
for beginning talks and it formed part of the recognition
of his work across the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah. Wow, it's so interesting looking back on it. Now,
who are the other type of people who typically win
something like the Nobel Peace.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Prize, So it's not just US presidents that take out
this award. Other names that you're going to know would
be Mant Luther, King, Junior, Nelson, Mandela, Mother, Teresa and
Malala have been some of the winners. And you get
a sense from that cohort really of you really have
to be quite remarkable, yes, and really make an impact
on humanity to win this award.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And who nominates you or how does someone get nominated?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So it's quite broad. Any university professor can nominate somebody
for the Nobel Prize. You can be a leader of
a peace research institute. You can be a member of
a National Assembly or government, so our Prime Minister could
nominate somebody, or any member of the House of Reps
of the Senate, if you're a judge at an international
(05:20):
court of law, as well as if you're a previous
winner of a Nobel Peace Prize. That's the cohort of
people who can nominate somebody. And one important thing to
note is that nominations for the twenty twenty five prize
closed in January, so this nomination that trump has got
in the last week or so will be considered for
the twenty twenty six award. Now, this is a very
very secret process by the committee, and the full list
(05:43):
of nominees will only be released in fifty years time.
So there's a fifty year gap. We don't get any
information about a short list or who just missed out.
It's quite a secret process. And then five decades until
we figure out, you know, whether somebody was nominally and
didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So that means that this year we should be finding
out who was nominated in nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, interestingly, okay, And so.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The nominations aren't always released, but we're kind of, I guess,
in this unusual place where we do know that Donald
Trump was nominated because that is what Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Ninya who told Trump, and that was broadcast all
over the world. So tell me more about that nomination.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So Nanya who visited Trump at the White House this
week in the context of continuing peace talks to try
and figure out how to get to a ceasefire in
the ongoing conflict in Gaza. It's now in its twenty
second month, so there's real efforts to try and figure
out how to bring a long and lasting piece to
that region. They were sitting across from each other, the
two parties, Nanya who leading the Israeli delegation, Trump with
(06:46):
the American and Nanya who essentially reaches over and passes
Trump a letter, and that letter was the nomination letter
to the Norwegian Nobel Committee. The Israeli leader said Trump
is quote forging peace as we speak, and one region
after the other. Now, all of this comes in the
context of the US launching a series of strikes against
Iranian nuclear sites, support of Israel's war with Iran and
(07:10):
in Gaza, and support of different conflicts all over the
Middle East, Yemen, you know, HEZBLA in Lebanon. It's been
a very tumultuous couple of years in that region. And
the context of the nomination was that Nanyahu basically said
that Trump was helping, one conflict at a time make
that region a safer place of the world.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, And you mentioned that Pakistan also nominated Trump. Tell
me about that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, firstly, I think it's really interesting that we know
about both of these, as you were saying before, but
in May, Pakistan and India exchanged missile and drone strikes
after India alleged a Pakistani supported group carried out a
terrorist attack in the disputed region of Kashmir. Now, the
US took credit for the ceasefire negotiations between the two nations.
(07:55):
We did a podcast on it at the time. It
was quite a quick episode and didn't escalate to the
heights that other people expected it too. Now, Pakistan's government
subsequently nominated Trump for his quote decisive diplomatic intervention and
pivotal leadership during the recent India Pakistan crisis. India's government
has disputed that the US played any role in the
(08:16):
peace process, and you can't ignore the political elements to
a public nomination of Trump. We know the leadership style
of the current US president. We know that he responds
well to being told he's doing a good job. And
so many commentators are saying it's actually being used as
a bit of a tool to improve relationships with the US. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Interesting. I mean, even in the example of Benjamin nina Who,
we know that Trump after the Israel Iran war, that
he did have some stern words to say about Nenya
who and Israel and also Iran. So it's interesting kind
of this full one eighty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And to understand the significance of the prize to President Trump,
you have to go back to his first term. And
when you really that this is actually his sixth nomination
since twenty eighteen, you start to get a real sense
of how important this prize is to him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Sixth that we know of, six.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That we know of. True. So he was nominated in
his first term for his work in easing tensions with
North Korea, and a nomination for his work on the
Abraham Accords.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And again I presume we know about that because whoever
nominated them made that public.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yes. Well, actually in both those cases I think he was.
President Trump made the public about his nominations. He uses
his social media platforms to talk a lot about his nominations,
and as recently as last month, he posted on truth
Social it's quite long. When I'm going to read it,
it's really important. It says, I won't get a Nobel
Peace Prize for stopping the war between India and Pakistan.
I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the
(09:42):
war between Serbia and Kosovo. I won't get a Nobel
Peace Prize for keeping peace between Egypt and Ethiopia. And
I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing the
Abraham Accords in the Middle East. No, I won't get
a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's interesting that he's almost campaigning to get this Nobel
Peace Prize. Is that no normal that nominees would be
so vocal about it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's not normal, And I think the private nomination and
evaluation process lends itself to it being more of an
honor bestowed upon you that you only recognize after you've
gotten it, not before. And it definitely is unusual for
it to be approached in this sort of campaigning manner.
It's also unusual that President Trump has criticized past winners
(10:26):
of the Nobel Peace Prize. So I mentioned at the
top that President Barack Obama won it a couple of
months into his presidency in twenty nineteen. Trump criticized Obama,
saying they gave one to Obama immediately upon his assent
to the presidency and he had no idea why he
got it. So this is really being viewed as as
kind of almost a campaign to be elected.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You're right, I mean, it wouldn't be the first time
that he has criticized Barack Obama.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, and there was a strong political sense to the
context of that comment as well. Trump was getting ready
to run for a presidential nomination himself. But it's definitely
not the norm for this award to be politicized like
it has been.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, he's being very competitive about this. Now, what do
we know about his competition, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We know that there's quite a few in the race.
So the Nobel Prize committee releases some kind of preliminary
data giving us a sense of how many entrants they've
received this year. There are already three hundred and eighteen
candidates for the Peace Prize. That's two hundred and eleven
individuals and one hundred and seven organizations that are being nominated,
and that's actually the fourth highest number of candidates in
(11:31):
the awards history. And there's still a couple of months
ago in this So, as we said before, the nominations
for this year's prize, which will be handed out in December,
they've closed already. So there will be a winner of
the Peace Prize that we'll hear about for twenty twenty
five in December. On December tenth, which is the anniversary
of Nobel's death. Trump will then be in the candidate
pool for next year's prize. He'll get a file made
(11:52):
up about him. It'll have the Israeli letter and the
Pakistani letter, as well as others we might not know about,
and the committee will evaluate winners and decided by blind ballot. Now,
one interesting fact, the Committee has actually canceled the prize
during years of conflict, So in years that they feel
like it's not appropriate to give out a peace prize,
they don't And so that's happened most recently in World
(12:14):
War Two, and it's an interesting element of you know,
we've spoken a lot on this podcast today about the
political angle of the prize, and when I read that,
I thought, well, the committee itself has a bit of
kind of political commentary that it can make by canceling
the prize altogether. So it's a good sign for the
world that the prize is still being handed out this year.
It means we're not at the depths of you know,
(12:35):
abandoning peace. But we'll have to wait until December ten
to figure out if he's actually won the one prize.
It seems that he cannot figure out how to get
over the line before we.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Go, Sam, Yeah, I think it's interesting to discuss what's
the likelihood that Donald Trump could actually get this, because
I think some people dismiss it, but there is a
conversation here about whether or not it's possible that he
could get it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, and I've been noticing in a lot of the
international media coverage about this story, and I think we've
probably lent into that a little bit today as well.
You do because of the way that Trump carries talks
about it, particularly on truth social it can lend itself
to a bit of a kind of comedic discussion. There
are strong credentials that he can bring to this sort
of process. I mean, at the time of recording, there
(13:23):
seems to be a holding ceasefire between Israel and Iran,
and that Iran's nuclear capabilities have been severely set back
because of a limited US operation. He seems to be
having a way to bring people to the table. There's
also strong opposition that you can raise the fact that
(13:44):
the Ukraine War is ongoing, the war in Gaza is
still ongoing. But I just want to make sure that
we bring a bit of balance to this discussion because
it's very easy to just dismiss it based on how
he talks about it. But there are ways that he
has improved the spread of peace in the world, and
as kind of politically obstruse as that is to say,
(14:05):
it needs to be said.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And I feel like I've also often heard him say
the fact that in his first term he was one
of the only US presidents in recent memory that didn't
enter a war or didn't allow the US to enter
a war.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, he's taking his kind of business building school of
thought into the world of diplomacy. And it's now up
to the committee to figure out whether that qualifies it
for an award.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, well, thank you for taking us through it, and
I guess we will find out on the tenth of
December twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, we'll be right here whether.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Or not he will get it, so we will keep
everyone updated. Thank you so much for listening to this
episode of The Daily Os. We'll be back this afternoon
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Already and this is this is the Daily This is
the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Monday,
the fourteenth of July. I'm Sam Kazlowski.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Negnio, who has nominated US President
Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. It comes after
Pakistan's government also nominated him in June, making it Trump's
second nomination in six months. But what actually is a
Nobel Peace Prize? And how do we get one? Today
we're going to have a look at what these nominations
(00:41):
mean and why Trump has been pursuing this prize so
carefully since his first term in office.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Soam I like how you said how do we get one?
As though it's something that we could do.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Look, I don't think we should be closing ourselves off
in our twenties and thirties to the heights of winning
a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But I'm also not sure that we should set that
expectation on ourselves.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I've settled some arguments in the office, and I think
that some of those have been so explosive that it's
worth the Peace Prize.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, moving on from what I would argue is actually
quite small office arguments, but I guess that is subjective.
Before we get into the specifics of these nominations, do
you want to explain what actually is a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So it's essentially a group of prizes run by a committee,
and the committee is named after Alfred Nobel, who was
an inventor, who was the inventor of dynamite, amongst other things,
and the committee awards an annual group of prizes for
achievements in economics, physics, chemistry, medicine, literature, and peace, which
(01:46):
we're talking about today.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So peace. The Nobel Peace Prize is just one of
the awards of the Nobel Prizes that you can get exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And what you'll notice from that list is that most
of them are actually science based or you know, have
some sort of kind of numbers and laws of the
universe behind it, and peace and literature probably the ones
that are more on the creative and more abstract side
of things. And the Peace Prize is really interesting because
it's awarded to one person or group a year and
(02:15):
there's five areas that they look at and if you've
made progress in one of the five, then you're eligible
for the award. And so the first is the control
of weapons and disarmament, the second is peace negotiations, the
third is democracy and human rights, the fourth is what
they call creating a better organized and more peaceful world,
and the fifth is limiting the effects of climate change.
(02:38):
And if you have made progress in one of them,
and you have the right person nominating you, and we'll
get to that in a sec you're in the running
for one of the most prestigious prizes on the planet.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I feel like progress is an understatement, like if you're
a pioneer in one of those areas, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's not easy. You have to be the headline. Yes,
And that's why there's you know, for a global prize.
There's not that many nominations every year, a couple of
hundred every year. And when you think about how much
happens in our world of seven billion, that's pretty remarkable.
Eight billion, eight billion.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
True.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And so we're talking about it today because US President
Donald Trump has been nominated by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Yahu.
I'm interested. Is there precedent for US presidents being nominated
or being awarded it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So there's been four US presidents that have been awarded
the Peace Prize in the past. The one most recently
to win the prize was Barack Obama in two thousand
and nine. Really interesting case that one, because he won
it only a couple of months into his presidency. So
he was elected to office at the end of two
thousand and eight, took office at the beginning of two
(03:44):
thousand and nine, and won a prize by the end
of that year.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Why did he get it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So he got it because the committee recognized his work
in beginning nuclear dism talks with Iran as well as
more normalized relationships with countries across the Middle Least. So
there wasn't a specific single act that got him that prize.
It was more of his approach to diplomacy being recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So, just to be clear, Barack Obama got it because
of nuclear de escalation in Iran.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, which is fascinating. He also didn't even get it
for you know, disarming Iran or anything. He got it
for beginning talks and it formed part of the recognition
of his work across the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah. Wow, it's so interesting looking back on it. Now,
who are the other type of people who typically win
something like the Nobel Peace.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Prize, So it's not just US presidents that take out
this award. Other names that you're going to know would
be Mant Luther, King, Junior, Nelson, Mandela, Mother, Teresa and
Malala have been some of the winners. And you get
a sense from that cohort really of you really have
to be quite remarkable, yes, and really make an impact
on humanity to win this award.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And who nominates you or how does someone get nominated?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So it's quite broad. Any university professor can nominate somebody
for the Nobel Prize. You can be a leader of
a peace research institute. You can be a member of
a National Assembly or government, so our Prime Minister could
nominate somebody, or any member of the House of Reps
of the Senate, if you're a judge at an international
(05:20):
court of law, as well as if you're a previous
winner of a Nobel Peace Prize. That's the cohort of
people who can nominate somebody. And one important thing to
note is that nominations for the twenty twenty five prize
closed in January, so this nomination that trump has got
in the last week or so will be considered for
the twenty twenty six award. Now, this is a very
very secret process by the committee, and the full list
(05:43):
of nominees will only be released in fifty years time.
So there's a fifty year gap. We don't get any
information about a short list or who just missed out.
It's quite a secret process. And then five decades until
we figure out, you know, whether somebody was nominally and
didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So that means that this year we should be finding
out who was nominated in nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, interestingly, okay, And so.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
The nominations aren't always released, but we're kind of, I guess,
in this unusual place where we do know that Donald
Trump was nominated because that is what Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Ninya who told Trump, and that was broadcast all
over the world. So tell me more about that nomination.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So Nanya who visited Trump at the White House this
week in the context of continuing peace talks to try
and figure out how to get to a ceasefire in
the ongoing conflict in Gaza. It's now in its twenty
second month, so there's real efforts to try and figure
out how to bring a long and lasting piece to
that region. They were sitting across from each other, the
two parties, Nanya who leading the Israeli delegation, Trump with
(06:46):
the American and Nanya who essentially reaches over and passes
Trump a letter, and that letter was the nomination letter
to the Norwegian Nobel Committee. The Israeli leader said Trump
is quote forging peace as we speak, and one region
after the other. Now, all of this comes in the
context of the US launching a series of strikes against
Iranian nuclear sites, support of Israel's war with Iran and
(07:10):
in Gaza, and support of different conflicts all over the
Middle East, Yemen, you know, HEZBLA in Lebanon. It's been
a very tumultuous couple of years in that region. And
the context of the nomination was that Nanyahu basically said
that Trump was helping, one conflict at a time make
that region a safer place of the world.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right, And you mentioned that Pakistan also nominated Trump. Tell
me about that.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well, firstly, I think it's really interesting that we know
about both of these, as you were saying before, but
in May, Pakistan and India exchanged missile and drone strikes
after India alleged a Pakistani supported group carried out a
terrorist attack in the disputed region of Kashmir. Now, the
US took credit for the ceasefire negotiations between the two nations.
(07:55):
We did a podcast on it at the time. It
was quite a quick episode and didn't escalate to the
heights that other people expected it too. Now, Pakistan's government
subsequently nominated Trump for his quote decisive diplomatic intervention and
pivotal leadership during the recent India Pakistan crisis. India's government
has disputed that the US played any role in the
(08:16):
peace process, and you can't ignore the political elements to
a public nomination of Trump. We know the leadership style
of the current US president. We know that he responds
well to being told he's doing a good job. And
so many commentators are saying it's actually being used as
a bit of a tool to improve relationships with the US. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Interesting. I mean, even in the example of Benjamin nina Who,
we know that Trump after the Israel Iran war, that
he did have some stern words to say about Nenya
who and Israel and also Iran. So it's interesting kind
of this full one eighty Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And to understand the significance of the prize to President Trump,
you have to go back to his first term. And
when you really that this is actually his sixth nomination
since twenty eighteen, you start to get a real sense
of how important this prize is to him.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Sixth that we know of, six.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That we know of. True. So he was nominated in
his first term for his work in easing tensions with
North Korea, and a nomination for his work on the
Abraham Accords.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
And again I presume we know about that because whoever
nominated them made that public.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yes. Well, actually in both those cases I think he was.
President Trump made the public about his nominations. He uses
his social media platforms to talk a lot about his nominations,
and as recently as last month, he posted on truth
Social it's quite long. When I'm going to read it,
it's really important. It says, I won't get a Nobel
Peace Prize for stopping the war between India and Pakistan.
I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for stopping the
(09:42):
war between Serbia and Kosovo. I won't get a Nobel
Peace Prize for keeping peace between Egypt and Ethiopia. And
I won't get a Nobel Peace Prize for doing the
Abraham Accords in the Middle East. No, I won't get
a Nobel Peace Prize no matter what I do.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's interesting that he's almost campaigning to get this Nobel
Peace Prize. Is that no normal that nominees would be
so vocal about it.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It's not normal, And I think the private nomination and
evaluation process lends itself to it being more of an
honor bestowed upon you that you only recognize after you've
gotten it, not before. And it definitely is unusual for
it to be approached in this sort of campaigning manner.
It's also unusual that President Trump has criticized past winners
(10:26):
of the Nobel Peace Prize. So I mentioned at the
top that President Barack Obama won it a couple of
months into his presidency in twenty nineteen. Trump criticized Obama,
saying they gave one to Obama immediately upon his assent
to the presidency and he had no idea why he
got it. So this is really being viewed as as
kind of almost a campaign to be elected.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
You're right, I mean, it wouldn't be the first time
that he has criticized Barack Obama.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
No, and there was a strong political sense to the
context of that comment as well. Trump was getting ready
to run for a presidential nomination himself. But it's definitely
not the norm for this award to be politicized like
it has been.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, he's being very competitive about this. Now, what do
we know about his competition, Well.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We know that there's quite a few in the race.
So the Nobel Prize committee releases some kind of preliminary
data giving us a sense of how many entrants they've
received this year. There are already three hundred and eighteen
candidates for the Peace Prize. That's two hundred and eleven
individuals and one hundred and seven organizations that are being nominated,
and that's actually the fourth highest number of candidates in
(11:31):
the awards history. And there's still a couple of months
ago in this So, as we said before, the nominations
for this year's prize, which will be handed out in December,
they've closed already. So there will be a winner of
the Peace Prize that we'll hear about for twenty twenty
five in December. On December tenth, which is the anniversary
of Nobel's death. Trump will then be in the candidate
pool for next year's prize. He'll get a file made
(11:52):
up about him. It'll have the Israeli letter and the
Pakistani letter, as well as others we might not know about,
and the committee will evaluate winners and decided by blind ballot. Now,
one interesting fact, the Committee has actually canceled the prize
during years of conflict, So in years that they feel
like it's not appropriate to give out a peace prize,
they don't And so that's happened most recently in World
(12:14):
War Two, and it's an interesting element of you know,
we've spoken a lot on this podcast today about the
political angle of the prize, and when I read that,
I thought, well, the committee itself has a bit of
kind of political commentary that it can make by canceling
the prize altogether. So it's a good sign for the
world that the prize is still being handed out this year.
It means we're not at the depths of you know,
(12:35):
abandoning peace. But we'll have to wait until December ten
to figure out if he's actually won the one prize.
It seems that he cannot figure out how to get
over the line before we.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Go, Sam, Yeah, I think it's interesting to discuss what's
the likelihood that Donald Trump could actually get this, because
I think some people dismiss it, but there is a
conversation here about whether or not it's possible that he
could get it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, and I've been noticing in a lot of the
international media coverage about this story, and I think we've
probably lent into that a little bit today as well.
You do because of the way that Trump carries talks
about it, particularly on truth social it can lend itself
to a bit of a kind of comedic discussion. There
are strong credentials that he can bring to this sort
of process. I mean, at the time of recording, there
(13:23):
seems to be a holding ceasefire between Israel and Iran,
and that Iran's nuclear capabilities have been severely set back
because of a limited US operation. He seems to be
having a way to bring people to the table. There's
also strong opposition that you can raise the fact that
(13:44):
the Ukraine War is ongoing, the war in Gaza is
still ongoing. But I just want to make sure that
we bring a bit of balance to this discussion because
it's very easy to just dismiss it based on how
he talks about it. But there are ways that he
has improved the spread of peace in the world, and
as kind of politically obstruse as that is to say,
(14:05):
it needs to be said.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And I feel like I've also often heard him say
the fact that in his first term he was one
of the only US presidents in recent memory that didn't
enter a war or didn't allow the US to enter
a war.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, he's taking his kind of business building school of
thought into the world of diplomacy. And it's now up
to the committee to figure out whether that qualifies it
for an award.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, well, thank you for taking us through it, and
I guess we will find out on the tenth of
December twenty twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, we'll be right here whether.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Or not he will get it, so we will keep
everyone updated. Thank you so much for listening to this
episode of The Daily Os. We'll be back this afternoon
with your evening headlines, but until then, have a great day.
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My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda
Bunjelung Kalguttin woman from Gadigl Country.
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Aboriginal and torrest rate island and nations. We pay our
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