May 12, 2025 • 14 mins
Yesterday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announced his Cabinet for the next term of Parliament. It followed a week of very public in-fighting in the Labor Party about who should be elevated to the Cabinet. In today’s podcast, we’re going to explain the concept of ‘factions’ and the role that factions played in discussions about the Cabinet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,
now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday,
the thirteenth of May. I'm Zara Seidler.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yesterday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi announced his cabinet for the
next term of parliament. It followed a week of very
public infighting in the Labor Party about who should be
elevated to the cabinet. In today's podcast, we're going to
explain the concept of factions and the role that factions
have played in discussions about who should be promoted in
(00:42):
the Labor Party.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So, Sara, yesterday Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi unveiled his cabinet.
But that came after a week of headlines about infighting
in Labor, which I think that many people would have
been surprised by, you know, because they had such a
signialificant when you would have thought that there would be
a lot of unity amongst the party, but that is
not what we saw. No, So this all surrounds the cabinet.
(01:09):
I think we should maybe just first explain what actually
is the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Good starting point, So the cabinet is basically just the
main decision making body of the government. That's just a
good way to think about it. If you're thinking about
a business, it's like the c suite, the upper executive,
and so it's made up of ministers who have responsibility
for areas of government policy. So think things like health
or defense or education. Ministers work with relevant government departments
(01:37):
to oversee the government's work in that area, and they
basically just design new policies, the policies that we talk
about and the policies that the government then chooses to implement.
One thing that I think you were the person that
became very passionate in the office about this to remember
is that for someone to become a minister, you don't
actually have to have worked in the field at all.
(01:59):
So I think made a video about this, But basically
to become a minister and to serve in cabinet, say
as the Health minister, you don't have to have worked
as a doctor, don't have to have a medical degree,
same as truth for education, don't need to be a teacher.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thought that was a little fun factor.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That interesting something I think about once a week. The
fact that you're yes to be the Treasurer. You don't
need to have an economics degree.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
No, though he does, our treasurer does.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It is a bonus and I think important to note
here the reason why that is the case is that
often these ministers are supported by a full department that's
made up of experts, of public servant experts who are
working on.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
These policies day in, day out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But basically what we're talking about today is that cabinet
and the ministers make up the cabinet.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And so since Labor won the election, Prime Minister Anthony
Alberizi has been deciding who will be in his cabinet. Now,
my understanding is that it is pretty much the Prime
Minister's decision alone. So why has it become so contentious?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean, it is in some parts his decision. But
I think to understand the Labor Party, especially, but mostly
political parties here in Australia, you need to understand factions
because factions are arguably the most powerful thing that exists,
especially in the Labor Party.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, so what is a faction?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I'm going to be really annoying and answer that
with an analogy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Because I think love an analogy. It's the best way
for me to think about it. So, Billy, you like
to party or go to party a partygoer. When you
go to a party, do you ever notice that there
are like lots of small groups of people having separate discussions.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes, particularly at extended family gatherings, Like I'm just with
my cousins.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And the cousins you really really like the cousins that
stand over.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The second cousins wants are removed, like I'm not really
talking to them exactly, no offense.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm sure they're lovely, and.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm sure they're listening to shout out to Billy's cousins.
But that's basically what a faction is. So politics, when
we talk about factions, we're just talking about a party
within a party. So they're these kind of small, ideologically
aligned groups who share close ties. Now important to recognize
that they exist at both state and federal level, and
(04:15):
they exist in both the liberal and the labor parties.
They tend to be really really important when a party
is choosing a new leader, as the factions will create
deals with each other. So one faction might say to
another faction, if you let one of us become leader,
we'll let you become deputy leader. But it's not just
at that point that they're important. Factional deals also happen
(04:37):
in the course of parliamentary business too, So one faction
might offer to compromise on legislation to keep the other
faction happy. I've said the word faction so many times
it's losing its meaning if they need something else down
the road. Basically, it's just agreeing to disagree so that
there is a deal in place. Factions are basically formed
(04:58):
around political interests, and that's a good way to think
about them.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, so both the Liberal Party and the Labor Party
you have factions. Yeah, but today we're talking about the
Labor factions because those other factions that have been at
the center of all of these headlines over the past week.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, and the Labor Party's factions are much more clear
and i'd say hold a lot more weight than the
Liberal parties do. So in the Labor Party there are
two main factions. There's the left and the right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And we have.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Dedicated a whole podcast to explaining the left and the right,
and the same is true when we talk about these factions.
So the left is like a progressive faction, the right
is a more conservative faction. Anthony Albanzi is a member
of the Labor Left, and Richard Miles, who's the deputy
Prime Minister, he is part of Labor Right. And so
(05:48):
the reason that we have seen so many headlines about
factions lately is because after Anthony Alberzi became or was
re elected as Prime minister, he was tasked with building
his new cabinet and he had to fill some roles
that have been made vacant because Bill Shorten, who was
the ndis minister, he was from Labor Right, he resigned
(06:09):
and stepped back from politics. And Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones,
who was from Labor Left, he also retired. So basically
there were these two roles that were open for competition,
and the factions were fighting about who those replacements should be.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Can I just ask one question. Those roles are vacant
and so they have to fill them. But the whole
conversation has been actually about an entire reshuffle, So it's
not just about making sure that those two roles are filled,
but it's kind of triggered an entire reshuffle, so kind
of every position is up for grabs.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Almost yeah, because it's about numbers. It's about how many
people do Labor Left have in the cabinet and how
many people do Labor Right have and is that basically
proportional representation of who should be there. And So what
was reported last week and this kind of kicked off
the string of in fighting and headlines, is that two
cabinet ministers from the right, Attorney General Mark Dreyfus and
(07:05):
Science Minister Ed Husick, they'd been removed from the cabinet
for factional reasons, Zara.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Before we go on, let's just hear a quick word
from the sponsor. Okay, So we've got two people, Ed
Husick and Mark Dreyfus. They were in the cabinet in
the last term. They have now been dumped from the cabinet.
How have they responded to that?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, we've heard quite a lot from Ed Husick.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He was on ABC's Insiders, and I think it's fair
to say that he didn't really hold back. He called
Richard Miles, the Deputy Prime Minister, a quote factional assassin.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Wait, can I just stop you because they are from
the same faction, right, they are from the right side
of the factions.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I mean, I don't want to complicate this even further.
But there are like state factions as well. So Richard
Miles is from the Victorian Right and Ed Husick is
from the New South Wales Right, not actually from the
same faction. They're kind of ideologically aligned, but different groupings
of the faction.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Is that a bit confusing?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
No, that makes sense. Okay. So Richard Miles has been
called a factional assassin by Ed Husick, who lost his
position in the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Correct, he said to the ABC. I'll just quote directly here.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He said.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The difficult issue here is that we've had bare faced
ambition and a deputy prime minister he's talking about Richard
Miles there wield a factional club to reshape the ministry.
He went on to say, I think people when they
look at a deputy prime minister, they expect to see
a statesman, not a factional assassin. He also claims that
Anthony Albanesi, who like you said, can get involved and
(08:41):
make the final call about who should make up the
front bench, who should make up the cabinet. He said
that Anthony Alberanzi was asked to intervene in this factional battle,
but that he stayed out of it, and ed Husick
said that if Albanizi had exercised his authority, he would
have been able to create stability and a strong team.
And he said, no one would have quibbled about that.
(09:02):
But according to ed Husick, Anthony Albanize stepped back and
allowed that factional battle to kind of go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I remember also reading some very strong words from
former Prime Minister Paul keating what.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Does he say?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, he's a man that often has strong words to say,
and again he also didn't hold back. He was criticizing
the fact that factional warfare was becoming more important than whoever.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Being the right person for the job was.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
He said that the demotion, and especially the demotion of
ed Husick, he said, only serves to keep up some
notional proportional.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Count between factions.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
In his letter, he also said that Husick is currently
the only Muslim MP in the inner cabinet because ann
Ali is in the outer cabinet and they're two different things,
and that Mark Dreyfuss is the most senior Jewish MP
in Parliament, and so reflecting on those two things, he
said that factional moves display poor judgment, unfairness and diminished
(10:00):
respect for the contributions of others.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Wow, so many groups within groups, even explaining that inner cabinet,
that out of cabinet, so many different things to understand.
Do you want to just take us through what were
the movements in the cabinet that Prime Mister Anthony Albanezi
announced yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, so there were a bunch that stayed the same.
So people like Richard Miles so we've just spoken about,
will remain as Deputy Prime Minister, Jim Chalmers will remain
as Treasurer, Penny Wong as Foreign Affairs Minister, Katie Gallaher
as Minister for Finance and Women. But then if we're
to shift to people and roles that are changing. Tanya
Plibisek will become the Minister for Social Services, so she's
(10:40):
moving on from the Environment portfolio that she held in
that last term of parliament. Mark Butler will add the NDIS,
Aging and Disability portfolios to his existing health portfolio, so
he's now going to be covering a whole range of
kind of healthcare system there elsewhere. Anika Wells will become
the Minister for Communications, so she's now Sport and Communications.
(11:04):
Michelle Rowland will become Australia's next Attorney General, replacing as
we mentioned, Mark Dreyfus. Now I could go on and
on and read out a bunch of names, but I
fear that would probably be boring for our listeners. So
absolutely go to our Instagram and you can flick through
and see all of those changes. One role, though, that
I did think was just I don't know, interesting to
(11:25):
mention was that Anthony Albanezi announced a range of new
special envoys and one of them caught my ear. He
said that he was making Dan Repercoli the new Special
Envoy for men's health. That's never existed before, and I
thought that was an interesting one to just pick out
of the lot.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, that is interesting. Now before we go, today is
a big day for the Liberal Party. They are electing
a new leader after Peter Duttan lost his seat. What
do we need to know about factions within the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, so, like I said, the Liberal Party is less
structured in the way that they run factions. It's more
just like general groupings around that ideological scale. So there
are the moderates, there are the centrists, and there are
the conservatives. To give you an example, Shadow Treasurer Angus
(12:15):
Taylor is part of the Conservatives, so he's part of
the Conservative faction. Deputy leader Susan Lee, who's also contesting
leadership today, she is considered more of a moderate and
so there's not necessarily these strict numbers that a number
of moderates or a number of Conservatives need to make
up the shadow cabinet, but it's certainly something when it
(12:37):
comes to who's backing who to keep in minds, like
why are certain MPs backing Susan Lee over Angus Taylor,
for example. That'll probably because they're part of the moderate faction,
whereas the others are part of the conservative faction. But
I do think it's worth noting that a lot of
the moderate faction from the Liberal Party has basically been
wiped out, have lost over two elections. They've lost so
(13:01):
many of their moderates, especially to the Teals, that there
aren't many of them left in the Parliament, or at
least in the current parliament. So the Liberal Party of
today looks quite different from previous generations of what it did.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Look like, as in its more conservative right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Now there are not as many moderates, so yes, there
are more conservatives, but yesterday a moderate was successful in
the seat of Bradfield that was called for the Liberal Party.
So there are some Tim Wilson is another, but there
aren't as many as there used to be, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, it sounds like if there's one thing that we
can count on, it's politicians arguing with each other.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Politics be politics.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And this certainly seems like a week where that is
more true than ever.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Absolutely, Zara, thank you so much for taking us through that.
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Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh,
now it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday,
the thirteenth of May. I'm Zara Seidler.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm Billy fitz Simon's.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yesterday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi announced his cabinet for the
next term of parliament. It followed a week of very
public infighting in the Labor Party about who should be
elevated to the cabinet. In today's podcast, we're going to
explain the concept of factions and the role that factions
have played in discussions about who should be promoted in
(00:42):
the Labor Party.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So, Sara, yesterday Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi unveiled his cabinet.
But that came after a week of headlines about infighting
in Labor, which I think that many people would have
been surprised by, you know, because they had such a
signialificant when you would have thought that there would be
a lot of unity amongst the party, but that is
not what we saw. No, So this all surrounds the cabinet.
(01:09):
I think we should maybe just first explain what actually
is the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Good starting point, So the cabinet is basically just the
main decision making body of the government. That's just a
good way to think about it. If you're thinking about
a business, it's like the c suite, the upper executive,
and so it's made up of ministers who have responsibility
for areas of government policy. So think things like health
or defense or education. Ministers work with relevant government departments
(01:37):
to oversee the government's work in that area, and they
basically just design new policies, the policies that we talk
about and the policies that the government then chooses to implement.
One thing that I think you were the person that
became very passionate in the office about this to remember
is that for someone to become a minister, you don't
actually have to have worked in the field at all.
(01:59):
So I think made a video about this, But basically
to become a minister and to serve in cabinet, say
as the Health minister, you don't have to have worked
as a doctor, don't have to have a medical degree,
same as truth for education, don't need to be a teacher.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Thought that was a little fun factor.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That interesting something I think about once a week. The
fact that you're yes to be the Treasurer. You don't
need to have an economics degree.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
No, though he does, our treasurer does.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It is a bonus and I think important to note
here the reason why that is the case is that
often these ministers are supported by a full department that's
made up of experts, of public servant experts who are
working on.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
These policies day in, day out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
But basically what we're talking about today is that cabinet
and the ministers make up the cabinet.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And so since Labor won the election, Prime Minister Anthony
Alberizi has been deciding who will be in his cabinet. Now,
my understanding is that it is pretty much the Prime
Minister's decision alone. So why has it become so contentious?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I mean, it is in some parts his decision. But
I think to understand the Labor Party, especially, but mostly
political parties here in Australia, you need to understand factions
because factions are arguably the most powerful thing that exists,
especially in the Labor Party.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Okay, so what is a faction?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I'm going to be really annoying and answer that
with an analogy.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Because I think love an analogy. It's the best way
for me to think about it. So, Billy, you like
to party or go to party a partygoer. When you
go to a party, do you ever notice that there
are like lots of small groups of people having separate discussions.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yes, particularly at extended family gatherings, Like I'm just with
my cousins.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And the cousins you really really like the cousins that
stand over.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
The second cousins wants are removed, like I'm not really
talking to them exactly, no offense.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm sure they're lovely, and.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I'm sure they're listening to shout out to Billy's cousins.
But that's basically what a faction is. So politics, when
we talk about factions, we're just talking about a party
within a party. So they're these kind of small, ideologically
aligned groups who share close ties. Now important to recognize
that they exist at both state and federal level, and
(04:15):
they exist in both the liberal and the labor parties.
They tend to be really really important when a party
is choosing a new leader, as the factions will create
deals with each other. So one faction might say to
another faction, if you let one of us become leader,
we'll let you become deputy leader. But it's not just
at that point that they're important. Factional deals also happen
(04:37):
in the course of parliamentary business too, So one faction
might offer to compromise on legislation to keep the other
faction happy. I've said the word faction so many times
it's losing its meaning if they need something else down
the road. Basically, it's just agreeing to disagree so that
there is a deal in place. Factions are basically formed
(04:58):
around political interests, and that's a good way to think
about them.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, so both the Liberal Party and the Labor Party
you have factions. Yeah, but today we're talking about the
Labor factions because those other factions that have been at
the center of all of these headlines over the past week.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, and the Labor Party's factions are much more clear
and i'd say hold a lot more weight than the
Liberal parties do. So in the Labor Party there are
two main factions. There's the left and the right.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
And we have.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Dedicated a whole podcast to explaining the left and the right,
and the same is true when we talk about these factions.
So the left is like a progressive faction, the right
is a more conservative faction. Anthony Albanzi is a member
of the Labor Left, and Richard Miles, who's the deputy
Prime Minister, he is part of Labor Right. And so
(05:48):
the reason that we have seen so many headlines about
factions lately is because after Anthony Alberzi became or was
re elected as Prime minister, he was tasked with building
his new cabinet and he had to fill some roles
that have been made vacant because Bill Shorten, who was
the ndis minister, he was from Labor Right, he resigned
(06:09):
and stepped back from politics. And Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones,
who was from Labor Left, he also retired. So basically
there were these two roles that were open for competition,
and the factions were fighting about who those replacements should be.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Can I just ask one question. Those roles are vacant
and so they have to fill them. But the whole
conversation has been actually about an entire reshuffle, So it's
not just about making sure that those two roles are filled,
but it's kind of triggered an entire reshuffle, so kind
of every position is up for grabs.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Almost yeah, because it's about numbers. It's about how many
people do Labor Left have in the cabinet and how
many people do Labor Right have and is that basically
proportional representation of who should be there. And So what
was reported last week and this kind of kicked off
the string of in fighting and headlines, is that two
cabinet ministers from the right, Attorney General Mark Dreyfus and
(07:05):
Science Minister Ed Husick, they'd been removed from the cabinet
for factional reasons, Zara.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Before we go on, let's just hear a quick word
from the sponsor. Okay, So we've got two people, Ed
Husick and Mark Dreyfus. They were in the cabinet in
the last term. They have now been dumped from the cabinet.
How have they responded to that?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, we've heard quite a lot from Ed Husick.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
He was on ABC's Insiders, and I think it's fair
to say that he didn't really hold back. He called
Richard Miles, the Deputy Prime Minister, a quote factional assassin.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Wait, can I just stop you because they are from
the same faction, right, they are from the right side
of the factions.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, I mean, I don't want to complicate this even further.
But there are like state factions as well. So Richard
Miles is from the Victorian Right and Ed Husick is
from the New South Wales Right, not actually from the
same faction. They're kind of ideologically aligned, but different groupings
of the faction.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Is that a bit confusing?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
No, that makes sense. Okay. So Richard Miles has been
called a factional assassin by Ed Husick, who lost his
position in the cabinet.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Correct, he said to the ABC. I'll just quote directly here.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
He said.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The difficult issue here is that we've had bare faced
ambition and a deputy prime minister he's talking about Richard
Miles there wield a factional club to reshape the ministry.
He went on to say, I think people when they
look at a deputy prime minister, they expect to see
a statesman, not a factional assassin. He also claims that
Anthony Albanesi, who like you said, can get involved and
(08:41):
make the final call about who should make up the
front bench, who should make up the cabinet. He said
that Anthony Alberanzi was asked to intervene in this factional battle,
but that he stayed out of it, and ed Husick
said that if Albanizi had exercised his authority, he would
have been able to create stability and a strong team.
And he said, no one would have quibbled about that.
(09:02):
But according to ed Husick, Anthony Albanize stepped back and
allowed that factional battle to kind of go ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
And I remember also reading some very strong words from
former Prime Minister Paul keating what.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Does he say?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yes, he's a man that often has strong words to say,
and again he also didn't hold back. He was criticizing
the fact that factional warfare was becoming more important than whoever.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Being the right person for the job was.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
He said that the demotion, and especially the demotion of
ed Husick, he said, only serves to keep up some
notional proportional.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Count between factions.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
In his letter, he also said that Husick is currently
the only Muslim MP in the inner cabinet because ann
Ali is in the outer cabinet and they're two different things,
and that Mark Dreyfuss is the most senior Jewish MP
in Parliament, and so reflecting on those two things, he
said that factional moves display poor judgment, unfairness and diminished
(10:00):
respect for the contributions of others.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Wow, so many groups within groups, even explaining that inner cabinet,
that out of cabinet, so many different things to understand.
Do you want to just take us through what were
the movements in the cabinet that Prime Mister Anthony Albanezi
announced yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, so there were a bunch that stayed the same.
So people like Richard Miles so we've just spoken about,
will remain as Deputy Prime Minister, Jim Chalmers will remain
as Treasurer, Penny Wong as Foreign Affairs Minister, Katie Gallaher
as Minister for Finance and Women. But then if we're
to shift to people and roles that are changing. Tanya
Plibisek will become the Minister for Social Services, so she's
(10:40):
moving on from the Environment portfolio that she held in
that last term of parliament. Mark Butler will add the NDIS,
Aging and Disability portfolios to his existing health portfolio, so
he's now going to be covering a whole range of
kind of healthcare system there elsewhere. Anika Wells will become
the Minister for Communications, so she's now Sport and Communications.
(11:04):
Michelle Rowland will become Australia's next Attorney General, replacing as
we mentioned, Mark Dreyfus. Now I could go on and
on and read out a bunch of names, but I
fear that would probably be boring for our listeners. So
absolutely go to our Instagram and you can flick through
and see all of those changes. One role, though, that
I did think was just I don't know, interesting to
(11:25):
mention was that Anthony Albanezi announced a range of new
special envoys and one of them caught my ear. He
said that he was making Dan Repercoli the new Special
Envoy for men's health. That's never existed before, and I
thought that was an interesting one to just pick out
of the lot.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, that is interesting. Now before we go, today is
a big day for the Liberal Party. They are electing
a new leader after Peter Duttan lost his seat. What
do we need to know about factions within the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, so, like I said, the Liberal Party is less
structured in the way that they run factions. It's more
just like general groupings around that ideological scale. So there
are the moderates, there are the centrists, and there are
the conservatives. To give you an example, Shadow Treasurer Angus
(12:15):
Taylor is part of the Conservatives, so he's part of
the Conservative faction. Deputy leader Susan Lee, who's also contesting
leadership today, she is considered more of a moderate and
so there's not necessarily these strict numbers that a number
of moderates or a number of Conservatives need to make
up the shadow cabinet, but it's certainly something when it
(12:37):
comes to who's backing who to keep in minds, like
why are certain MPs backing Susan Lee over Angus Taylor,
for example. That'll probably because they're part of the moderate faction,
whereas the others are part of the conservative faction. But
I do think it's worth noting that a lot of
the moderate faction from the Liberal Party has basically been
wiped out, have lost over two elections. They've lost so
(13:01):
many of their moderates, especially to the Teals, that there
aren't many of them left in the Parliament, or at
least in the current parliament. So the Liberal Party of
today looks quite different from previous generations of what it did.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Look like, as in its more conservative right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Now there are not as many moderates, so yes, there
are more conservatives, but yesterday a moderate was successful in
the seat of Bradfield that was called for the Liberal Party.
So there are some Tim Wilson is another, but there
aren't as many as there used to be, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, it sounds like if there's one thing that we
can count on, it's politicians arguing with each other.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Politics be politics.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And this certainly seems like a week where that is
more true than ever.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Absolutely, Zara, thank you so much for taking us through that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Thank you, and thank you so much for listening to
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until then, have a great day. My name is Lily
(14:12):
Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda Bunjelung Kalkutin woman from
Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges that this podcast is
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Speaker 3 (14:23):
All Aboriginal and Torres s right island and nations.
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