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October 1, 2025 41 mins

The Deputy Prime Minister David Lammy has been forced to backtrack on claims at Labour conference he on Monday, having accused Nigel Farage of “once flirting with Hitler Youth when he was younger”. 


Camilla and Tim speak to the Reform leader’s biographer Michael Crick, who tells them he “came to the conclusion that Farage isn’t a racist” and that Lammy was “reckless” in saying so.


Elsewhere, Camilla and Tim are also joined by two Jewish politicians from either side of the political divide - former Labour MP Luciana Berger and Conservative peer Lord Polak - to reflect on Donald Trump’s Gaza peace plan proposals.


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