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April 17, 2025 43 mins

It’s well over 24 hours since the UK Supreme Court determined that transgender women are not legally women.


Since then the Prime Minister has posted about Easter traffic and GP waiting times – but nothing on that landmark ruling. There hasn’t even been a formal Government statement or a Cabinet minister on the airwaves.


Kamal and Camilla ask why Keir Starmer and his Labour colleagues are so quiet and call for clarity on how the Government will ensure rights based on biological sex are protected.


Plus, they speak to Sir Trevor Phillips, former chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, who helped draft the Equality Act. He calls on the NHS to “stop whining about how difficult it is” and get on with correctly interpreting the law.


Producer: Lilian Fawcett

Senior Producer: John Cadigan

Executive Producer: Louisa Wells

Planning Editor: Venetia Rainey

Social Media Producer: Ji-Min Lee

Video Editor/Studio Director: James England

Production assistance from Anna Johnson

Original music by Goss Studio


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