Sean Brace and Mark Henry Jr. talk #Phillies winning late in Colorado, #NBA Conference Finals, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girl. Oh so way we go.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Four teams remain, two series left until we get to
the NBA Finals. Of course, a lot to discuss happening
in the Philadelphia sports world.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
A late one last night, A great spot by the
legendary man by the name of Tom McCarthy T MAC
with the statistic the Phillies were one and fifteen when.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Trailing after seven, I want to say it was.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And then next thing you know, Alec Bohm puts him
on top with a tow ur in bomb to center.
Of course, the boys held off at the end, added
at a couple more to close up shop and a
big time win overdose. Colorado Rockies who held competitions who
have played forty seven total games, Mark Andrey Junior and
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have won eight eight eight, And yes, there was a
moment or two throughout the course of last night's game
that I go it would be funny to see them
lose to this team, but they're proferred.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Was at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Shout out to the Phillies for coming through and getting
out of victory. And shout out to Mark Henry Junior
back on the road in some city town and Illinois
joining us here on a daily ticket.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It's a Tuesday, Mark, how we doing today, sir? Doing well?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
The Colorado Rockies are on pace for twenty seven and
one thirty five right now, but don't worry. Phillies have
three more chances. Had a heartbreaking loss this.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Week, twenty seven wins. Trying to think like you know,
so I always tell this story.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I went to Colorado one time, went to Denver one time,
and it was a.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
This was just a couple of years ago, as pre
kids all that sixteen fifteen, whatever it may have been.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Wife and I go out there, we partake.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It was a huge deal for us, only place that
was legal at the time. So we get out there,
great vibes, unbelievable area. Of course, you can high and
it's just unbelievable. Next thing, you know, the Padres. It
was in the middle of the summer and the Rockies
were playing at San Diego and they were the two
teams at the top. If I'm not mistaken, I think
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they were tied for first place.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There was a ballpark bar that's similar to Xfinity Live
right outside Corus Field.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So I go, all right, the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Are on the road, Let's go to a place that
I know is gonna have some jam, some buzz. So
we go there, Mark, I kid you, and not place
was packed one hundred TVs. If I'm lying, I'm dying.
Not one of them had the Rockies game on.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Not one.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It was literally the.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Second ending of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I walk in guy from Philadelphia and had to ask
them to put the game on that they literally are
ninety yards away from home plate when they're at home
And I don't know, Like again, I just think, like,
we are so lucky to be in Philadelphia, be sports
fans in this city because we care.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And it's so important to us.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And then you go around you look at some of
these ballparks and it's like you can hear a pin drop,
Like last night watching that Rockies game, there was more
Philly fans in the building than anything. It's just that's
a bad organization, man. And I hate to say I
feel for them, because I don't. I don't even feel
for them, like they're just they're the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
They they I think that the most irrelevant franchise in sports,
taking hockey out. I don't know hockey as much to
parse that apart the Big three, the American Professional Sports,
not the faken.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
The most irrelevant franchise in sports.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Of the NFL, MLBNBA, I don't think there's a more
irrelevant franchise than than the Colorado Rockies. Maybe Charlotte the Hornets. Good,
the Charlotte Hornets are up there. The Pelicans are probably
up there.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The Pelicans were one of the first that came to
my mind too as well.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
That almost feels like cheating though, because those two. I
guess Colorado's kind of new too though mid ninety nineties. Yeah,
they're relatively new as well, so it's it's similar. Yeah,
I mean, Loof's right, Bryce said it best. They're a
loser organization. They've won seventy six plus games twice in
fifteen years. The last fifteen years, not five hundred. They've
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won seven more than seventy six games twice in the
last fifteen years. So yeah, just an organization that does
not care about its fans. And it's funny their attendance
is actually usually in the top ten, even over the
last five to ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yes, gotta be the opposing fans, it has to be.
That's a good Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I mean, people love the ballpark. People say it's one
of the nicest ballparks in baseball, one of the ones
I definitely have on the list to get to. And
part of it is just like they're screwed forever because
they'll never get a pitcher to ever sign there. True
to the way that the altitude is and the ballpark
that they just it's such a high run ballpark. The
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only way that they can ever get pitching talent is
to develop and that's hard to do and they've shown
no ability to do.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Look, it was brought up yesterday on the broadcast where they.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Went out and had all these these pictures and I'm
not even gonna pretend to name them, but they had
young talent. They went and paid all these guys. I
thought it would pay off. It's just a tough ballpark.
Like you said, to keep the ball in the yard
A and then b when you do make mistakes signing
Chris Bryant, you know, and you spend all that money
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on the wrong player, it's only.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Gonna set you back.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's a shame though, because like you said, it is
a nice ballpark. A lot of people like to go there.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Maybe on the flip side of that for opposing fans
at least, you know, when you're gonna go to Colorado,
you're gonna see a victory, right, Like that's always good.
But man, last night I'm just watching that game, I'm like,
come on, dude, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Everybody was just busting their stones.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
How many wins they had, and they're gonna go and
lose Game one again. I'm not gonna lose my mind
over it. I just was like, don't lose, come on,
let's find a way to win.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
And the Phillies did.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They battled back, and you know, I want to bring
up this, What does that stat.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Do to you? If anything?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Albeit may twentieth that this team I believe, if I'm
not mistaken, he said one in fifteen after a trailing
after seven innings.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Does that mean anything to you? Does that do anything
to you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like, we know what we know about this team, we
know their deficiencies, but you know, where is the big bat,
right besides Schwarber in that eighth or ninth inning. I
don't know it hit me when you go only one
time that they've come out on top and found a
way to win out of sixteen opportunities.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think it goes back to what's
been my concern with this team all along is that
the third bopper doesn't exist. We don't have that third
power bat. We're so contact dependent, which is not a
place I ever thought we'd get to with this Phillies roster,
in this Phillies era of baseball. But it's where we're at.
What I'd say is like it was kind of I think.
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I I think I don't know if this was on
my show or on your show where I talked about
this a couple of weeks ago, but I think part
of why we were so heightened concern about the bullpen.
It's a little different story now without Almorado around, but
why we were so concerned to start the year with
the bullpen was because every game was close, every game
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was coming down to a run or two because we
weren't getting those power explosions, those three run homers that
put you up in the game comfortably to the point
where you're not up one run. So if every game
is close, or every game is tied, or we're down
one in every game, every run that the bullpen feel
gives up feels like a killer, as opposed to when you're,
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you know, down six to two and a bullpen gives
up a runner. You're up eight to one and the
bullpen gives up a run, it's a different feeling. Whereas
I think early in the year, every run that the
bullpen gave up was it felt like completely changing the
complexion of the game. And I think that kind of
is I think that's what that stat is. I think
that stat goes back to us not blowing teams out.
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I'm actually curious. I wonder what the Phillies record is
on the run line, because I can't imagine it's great.
I can't imagine that they've won a ton of games
by multiple runs, and I know that they're they're like
minus one eighty than on the run line minus one
and a half. This is bad radio. My apologies. That's
actually better than our thought nineteen and nineteen, So I
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guess they have about half the time covered as a
as a one and a half run line. That's surprising, though,
because it does feel like every game seventh to the
ninth inning, we're you know, clenching and open. Basically, it
does feel like that. But what I will say is
does it concern me? It's hard to be too concerned
when we have the best record in the National League.
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I mean, who would have thought, sitting here on May twentieth,
we have a better record than Shoe Otani and Freddie
Freeman and Mookie Betts and Tyler Glass now's out, but
Yamamoto and Sasaki?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Wait, the five World Series champion, you mean to.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Tell Yeah, it's pretty shocking that we're sitting here. And
I was relatively hot on this team coming into the year.
I thought they'd win ninety four ninety five games and
you know, compete for the division. But I was higher
on Atlanta. But the fact that you're sitting here, you know,
two months into the year with a better record than
let alone anybody in the NL, but especially the Dodgers,
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I think it has to quell any concerns that you
do have about that power back now. They have needs
and I hope they addressed them. But they're they're a
really good team.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Nobody hotter right now when it comes to the world
of sports gambler than Mark Henry Junior. Hosted a tough
cover radio show every Saturday from eleven to one home home.
Mark is giving out winners left and right, cash and
tickets and putting everything out on solid socials as he
has done his whole entire time of I've known this man.
Nobody is more transparent when it comes to the world
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of sports gambling than Mark Henry Jr.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And if they all appreciate that, yeah, well absolutely, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Nobody puts their plates up first thing in the morning
than you, brother.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So yes, you are a hell of a run right now.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So I want to talk a little bit more. You
brought up the National League. Yeah, I won't lie. I
had a little bit of some stuff going on last
week that kind of took me off the radar. When
I pulled out my laptop yesterday and saw the the
Detroit Tigers the best record in baseball, Yeah, my jaw
was on the floor. We know what took place last
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year was an unbelievable story. But then you change and everything,
just the narratives completely flip, and now we're talking about
a team with expectations.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, they have some pretty good ball players. They have
an overall number one.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Draft pick and Torlksen. They got some other players out
there that have been high draft picks. Of course, we
know Screwball what he's been able to do, one of
the best pitchers in baseball, if not d bests. But
now we start to talk about the Detroit Tigers in
a different manner, like the expectations there for this team
moving forward, Mark are like, are we.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Talking about a team that could compete for a World Series?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Here? You can at least compete to go to it.
I'm of the mindset that the NL. I don't think
I can ever remember in any sport feeling the way
that I feel the disparity between the NL and the AL.
I think the I think the NL is planets better
than the ALE, and I felt that way coming into
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the I know Mike Kyoto good Phillies Twitter follow was
really beating that drump all off season and saying, I
think his take was that the top seven NL teams
were better than the best AL team, And I don't
know if i'd still say that because Atlanta was considered
in there and some some teams. I don't think I've
lived up to it what we thought they'd beg But
I think the NL is far far better than the ALE.
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I think the Al's wide wide open for anybody who
wants to go take it. I mean, you just run
down the top of the list. You've got Detroit, and yeah,
the Detroit thing is all the guys are putting it
together at the same time. Riley Green, big prospect, he's
got a got an eight thirty six ops. All of
a sudden, Spencer Torkelsen, you mentioned him, he was a
super prospect, eight eighty five ops. Kerry Carpenter, who my
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buddy Pat Murrand likes to refer to as Kerry Bonds.
He loves, loves his power. Kerry Carpenter eight twelve ops.
And then you have clayber Torres, a guy they brought
in this offseason to fill the role there as just
a solid middle infielder. He's got an eighth eight OPS
with a two eighty four average. But the number one
story with this Tiger season I think is the re
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emergence of one of the most fun players in baseball
and Hobby Bias. I mean, this was a guy who
was one of the faces of baseball when he was
on the Cubs, or at least one of the one
of the most swaggy, fun to watch, highlight driven players
in the league. And you look at you know, his
Detroit tenure, it's been an absolute disaster. The first three
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years in Detroit, six seventy one ops, five ninety three ops,
five sixteen ops. He's up to eight eleven ops, hitting
two ninety one this year, all of a sudden play.
And he's even in those years where he was bad
at the plate, he's always been a great fielder and
he'll always be a great fielder. But the fact that
he's giving you what he's giving you at the plate,
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while he's obviously gonna, you know, give you what he
gives you in the field, he is and he's the
type of guy where I think his energy and swagger
is kind of contagious through a ball club, and I
think we saw that with some of those clubs teams,
and I think we're seeing it now with this Tigers team.
This Tigers team thinks they're the best team on the
on the field every game, and how could you not
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with the way that they've started this year the way
that they ended last year. I don't think there's anything
fraudulent about what's going on with the Tigers. You got
the Yankees. We thought they'd fall off without Sodo. Every
piece that they've brought in this offseason has looked great.
Max Freed is the best pitcher in baseball this year,
Coldy Bellinger's red hot, Paul Goldschmidt turned back the clock
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Like Seattle. The whole thing on Seattle was that they
have this great rotation but no good hitters. They've got
like a top five offense in baseball by every metric.
All of a sudden, these guys who we all kind
of had rode off or thought weren't going to be
very good as hitters all kind of coming back around.
And it's just it's wide Minnesota, a team that was
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dead a couple weeks to go, even they're nine and
one in their last ten. Now, my pick in the
AL was Kansas City. They're still hanging around at twenty
seven and twenty two. It's wide, wide open in the AL.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, there's there's a lot going on as far as
in both leagues, as you pointed out a little bit
more so as far as the National League winning, and
every one of the divisions, as far as National League
is concerned, there are three teams. Even in the West
there are four teams above five hundred, but each to
each league, East division has three teams above five hundred
at this point in time, and it's just crazy because
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you know, you want to see teams separate themselves, but
a lot of these teams are holding steady, and.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
We just don't know who's real and who's not at
this point in time. But that's the fun part of
sports wagering.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And that's why the Detroit Tigers are a great question
right here, right now, because I know a lot of
people were similar to me, you know, paying attention. We
understand what took place last year. We know that they
have some good pieces, good managers. One before yeah, great manager, right,
so they're putting it together.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't think we should.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Be surprised, But then you throw the best record in
baseball and I'm like, WHOA. I was not prepared for that.
Of course, they were lost last night to the Saint
Louis Cardinals. Oh by the way, A pretty hot team
in their own right.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
My father in law diehard Cardinals fan. Fun fact, so
I have to talk about the Saint Louis Cardinals a
lot with my father in law, and I stay up
on them and track them pretty closely to you know,
keep up in conversation. This was the team I thought
was gonna win like sixty five games, seventy games. I am.
I am floored by what's happening there. And I think
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that they've beaten up on a really brutal schedule recently
with some bad teams. So maybe it doesn't last year,
but twenty seven and twenty one and you know, they
came into Philly and took two or three air I
might have been in Saint Louis, I can't remember, but yeah,
to agree, they took two or three from us. So
it's not like it's been all bad teams that they've
been beating. I think they probably end up missing the playoffs,
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and I think they're probably fraudulent, but I mean, they've
shocked me this far. I mean, it's the team I
took the under on like seventy four and a half wins.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
On to make the playoffs right now, and the Saint
Louis Carters. Of course, this is a market that you
can make money on, or at least take a shot at.
Right now on the no minus two fifty plus two
ten on the yes again, it made twenty lot baseball
to be played, but a decent number. And that type
of wager gets you involved, right Like that's the thing
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about that wager is like you might not care about
the Saint Louis Cardinals at all, but then now you
place that wager and oh, by the way, now you're
checking that box score every single morning and at night
seeing what they're doing, so on and so forth.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah. I had an Arizona, big Arizona future to make
the playoffs last year, and then they came down to
like the last day of the year and the Mets
made it instead or someone made it instead. So that
that broke me last year because I was that was
that would have been a big winner, because I think
I bet I bet it when Arizona was like really
down in the dumbsit plus five or six hundred to
make the playoffs or something. Out of curiosity, where are
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the Cubs at in turns to make the playoffs? I
know that they're favored to win the division, so it's
gonna be lighter.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But Cubbies to make the playoffs at minus two ninety
on the yes, and.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Vegas knows they've played the hardest schedule in baseball and
it's not really Yeah, And if you look at their
upcoming schedule here and they to be fair, they they
did just sweep the or even just their last little
bit here, they they took two or three from the Marlins.
They just took three of three from the White Sox.
They have three more against the Marlins. They have three
against the Reds, they have three against the Rockies, three
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against the Reds, and then they played the Nationals. So
their next like fifteen games, they they're gonna probably end
up at the top of the NL in the next
couple of weeks here because they got all their Dodgers
series and they're they're tough braves, you know, Phillies Mets
type series out of the way a little bit in April,
so and it'll come back and they'll have a hard
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schedule down the stretch, I'm sure at some point. But
this next little stretch here for the Cubs maybe something
to watch for. I could see them going on a tear.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
All right, Well back to the Phillies eight forty. We'll
put a bow on this one again. You know, I
can't really get too crazy about this is just a game,
a series that they should sweep, a game that they
should win. Lazardo on the mount of minus two eighty
five total coming in at at ten and a half,
eight forty, first pitch here.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Anything you want to add?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And then I want to ask you about Alvarado and
of course, like what's the next move for Nebrowski here?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean this this is an unbeedable game, like
minus two to eighty or you're gonna like two and
a half runs with them, or you bet like the
team total at like six and a half. Yeah, I
just don't think there's a bet for this one.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, all right, shout out to Schwarber hitting three hundred
bombs yesterday. Harper's playing well since he shaved his head
a lot on the folks over at Crossing broad had
that number.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Let's talk about the Joel Embiid head shave in November
is gonna be legendary. We just have to get it,
get it for every team. We got it with Nick
Bryce's red hot.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
The camera's over there.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Sorry, that's funny, But I don't know. It doesn't have
to be Joelle. Maybe Max he goes with a buzz cut.
Maybe I don't see I don't see it for Jerry McCain.
Maybe Nick Jurse. That's the I think Joe.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Joe has had like short hair before, right, yeah, yes,
he's had a bunch of yeah, yeah, yes, he's been
here for over a decade. So uh yeah, we've seen
it all and then some we do have NBA discussion
coming our way.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
We will hit on that and we'll have some fun
as what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
With the future of this franchise when it comes to
the NBA Draft.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I am. I you know that I checked out of
the Sixers season pretty like pretty early, and I just
couldn't spend my mentals on it. And I think maybe
it's over compensating it. Since we've gotten the third pick,
I think I've thought about Ace Bailey every hour since
really or any name. I I'm just I love Ace Bailey,
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I love VJ. Edgecombe. So I'm obsessed with this pick.
I'm a draft guy, as you know, so this is
this is my nitty gritty. So I have been maybe
it's over compensating for not paying attention to sixers for
multiple months, but I'm back now. I'm excited if they
would have got if they wouldn't have gotten the pick'd
yeah different thinking about him and talk to God, could.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
You imagine that?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah? Well yeah, look and we will get into uh
Ace Bailey in that conversation. But one more, as far
as Alvarado is concerned, I will put the bow on
the phillies here, you know, Like people ask me all
the time, like who's good when it comes to bullpen,
Like because if you're not watching every day and see
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this and even right hand in the air, even me,
sometimes I'll be like, they showed somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
The other day into bullpen, and I'm like, who the
hell is that guy?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But Alvarado's been with us for quite some time, and
nobody is going to be perfect coming out of the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Bar Nunn Alvarado, though, I.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Think one of the last times we did see him
that really dropped our jaw on the floor is when
he struck out the base, struck three guys out when
the bases were loaded in that game at home and
you know, like the question I guess I would ask
for you is how big of a loss is Alvarado
for this team? And of course he's not going to
be their postseason How good was he pitching this year?
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And you know, I think this is why Dombrowski and
those that those scouts get paid the big bucks, right Like,
there are plenty of teams out there that have good
players that aren't playing for anything, that will absolutely move
some of these decent pieces and bullpens, and I expected
Dobrowski to go out there and find someone. I don't
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think we're going to entertain any names at this point
in time, but let's focus on the loss. How big
of a loss is Jose Alvarado To you Mark Hevy Junior.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
It's huge. There's no sugarcoating it. There's no spin zone
I can take or it's massive. He's our best reliever,
He's our most reliable reliever. Seemed like a clubhouse guy
who the team rallied around, especially you know when you
get in jams and I there's it's really upsetting. You know.
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I love Alvarado, probably one of my favorite players on
the team. You know, that moment with the kid in
the stands breaks your heart thinking about it now. But yeah, yeah,
it's really there's just no positives. I you know that
I was kind of the positive guy on the bullpen.
I was telling everybody, relaxed, Nobody or not many teams
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can match our top four when you throw Alvarado, kirkering Strom,
and Romano. Now that we can say Romano, but that
top four, the way that they had been pitching, especially
in May, they'd all been elite, and they've all shown
the ability to be elite, whether it's last year or
in their care and I would have put that top
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four up there just about any top four in any
bullpens in baseball.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The problem was, even with that four, our five through
eight was nowhere near acceptable. The bottom of our bullpen
is not good enough. And it's a shame because I
think that they have a lot of guys in the
farm system who seem to be killing it and the
miners out of the bullpen or even as starters. I
think that the weird part about this conversation about what
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you're trading for in the bullpen is we have eight starters.
We have legitimately eight starters right now, and I don't
know how you handle that in relation to trades, and
how you handle that in relation to putting some guys
in the bullpen. And everybody's got, you know, the magic
bullet answer on what you should do, but you just
run down the list. Wheelers not going to the bullpen,
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Lozard is not going to the bullpen. Sanchez isn't going
to the bullpen. Aaron Nola has like one hundred million
dollars for the next five years or maybe more than
that on his deal. I think it's like one hundred
and fifty. Actually, I think I way undershot that number
for the next five years on that deal. Mick Abel
just came up and threw one of the best first
start debuts I've ever seen from any pitcher in baseball.
Andrew Painter's coming up in the next month and a
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half and he's going to be a starter when he
gets up. Taiwan Walker just got put back in the rotation,
and to be fair to him, has been extremely serviceable.
And then you have Ranger Suarez, who I didn't even mention,
who's been fantastic his last two timeouts and also has
experienced in the bullpen, but is a free agent, and
it's hard to put a guy in a contract year
in the bullpen. Now, what I would say to that
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is they did it to Zach Ethlin. Zach Eflin went
to the bullpen for US in twenty twenty two in
the playoffs and still got paid a good chunk of
change from the Tampa Bay Rays to go be a
starter and then ended up in Baltimore. But Ranger will
be in the bullpen in October. I think that that's
at this point, with all the options, I think that's
pretty fair to say. And I think Nola's in the
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rotation in October almost regardless of what happens if he's healthy.
I think he's shown enough in the playoffs to probably
even if he has a bad year, probably get at
least a shot to start. You're not taking any of Wheeler,
Sanchez or Lozardo out, So to me, that means we
have Painter and Able, as you know, potential bullpen guys.
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I think Painter will be in the bullpen in October
if if Andrew Painter. Here's my I was arguing about
this with Luke yesterday and he wasn't really even arguing
with me, but I got into it with someone online
as I'm one to do. And I I said that
someone got mad about Andrew Painter getting put in the
bullpen and all we can't ruin his routine and all
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that stuff. I get it. He had Tommy Johnny Argo, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But if he he's gonna be a starter in the
regular season, they're going to try to see what he
can do at the MLB level as a starter. When
we if we get to October, and Andrew Paynter has
a sub b R under four and there's not a
spot for him in the rotation because you have Wheeler, Sanchez,
Lozarda and Nola. They're not sending him down. He's going
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to the bullpen, and that's just that's just natural. So
if we're now talking about a bullpen that has oriyan Strom,
Romano Ranger, Painter and either able or what you get
for able on the trade market, then that's interesting. How
much do you really have to go spend on a
bullpen guy or do you have to go just get
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kind of a lower level guy to get you through
the regular season and get you to the playoffs. Because
I do think as long as you know, all the
starters stay healthy, which probably isn't likely, but you can't
really plan for injury. So as long as all the
starters stay healthy, I think they're gonna have a lot
of bullpen options come October, even if they don't make
too many news interesting.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, and it's a long season.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Nobody's not getting there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Exactly, and nobody's panicking.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And Dobrowski's been there and done that, made many, many, many,
many many trades over the years.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So it's great to have the riches that they have
right now.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Of course with Mickabel coming in and what he was
able to do in that first start paint And it's funny,
as I made the joke over the weekend with my
father in law hand in the air, I'm like, Painter's
been the guy that I've always heard about, Like mc gable.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
The hell where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So again I'm not mister minor league report here every week,
but again, Painter was the guy that everybody was building
up this hype around, and Able came in and delivered
and that was an awesome, awesome game one nothing and
welcome to the big time leagues. As far as you know,
it's it's like these big time pitchers that don't get
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run support. You just like you're in a different world
when that happens for you and you're able to mow down.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
These batters and you lose a game one nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It happened a lot, and I don't even want to
put him in that conversation, but he was great.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Cole Hamils.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I felt like Cole Hamils when when he was in
his heyday he didn't get run support. He would go
out there, of course you had Doc Roy would go
out there and want to get run support.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Some time.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You would lose the ball games, and then you go
around the league and it's just a different it's a
different level when you go out there and you hold
it down, you hold a team to one run, strikeout nine.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And then come away with a loss, and there's nothing
you could do about it. But that's what baseball baseball.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Ski he's the best picture I've seen since Pedro. So
he's He's I've never I haven't seen anything like it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
But does he have Tommy John though, that's the only
thing that I'm in that you know, like it's.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It just sucks, but that's yeah, you're right, Well, hopefully
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
We'll see, but he is unbelievable. Mark, He's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
One last thing I just have to get off my
chest before we move on. O Ryan Kirkering. People are
dumb about Oryan Kirkering, and I just want to make
that clear.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Devin Kaney, who I like and I'm friends with her,
he saw that tweet. We have to have an honest
conversation about Ryan Kirkring. And I actually, I actually don't
have as much of a problem with the tweet because
when she said it, it was first and second no out,
and then he gets three outs, so it worked out.
But the tweet, if you want to say, you know whatever,
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that's fine. The replies to that tweet have me thinking
we are the dumbest fan base in the history.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Of on social media.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Absolutely, Oh my god, we're top three.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
The way people are talking about Oriyan Kirkering is like
every time he has bad outing, it's like, oh, well,
we got to send him down or you know, he's done.
He's never been his game that didn't live up to
the hype. Oriyan Kirkering had a two two nine ERA
and sixty four appearances last year. He was one of
the twenty best relievers in baseball last year and now
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and now we're we're just throwing him out. He's got
a four he's got a four oh eight RA. It's
not like he's, you know, murdering the team. There's been
plenty of worst eras and if you look in May,
he's got like a one to three R in May.
He's really really found his stride over the last seven
or eight appearances. Seven of his last eight games up
in scoreless appearances. And I love Matt Strom commenting on
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that tweet and saying, please enlighten me, and.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
She didn't respond though. That was my only thing about Devon.
I love Devin. Devin's my girl.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, look, you know you got a professional athlete that
comes back you respond to him, like, let's go all right,
you said what you said, he wants to enlighten him,
and you could take it however you want.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
But let's get that conversation going. What was your issue?
And I would love to know what Strom said. I'm
right there with you. Ruben Tomorrow backed it up. I
did did like his his thoughts and that. But yeah, Mark,
we are with social media, we're top three worst.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Like I would say, Nicks slash New York US and
then what you know, like.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
A Chicago I will say this is under the radar.
This is one team that the Lions fans are annoying online.
I don't know if anybody else is dealt with that.
I think the Lions fans are worst of the worst,
and maybe that's also because they're Michigan fans, and I
think they're up at the top as well. But yeah,
I have a lot, for some reason, a lot of
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Michigan Detroit followers who come at me anytime I say
anything negative about the Lions.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, all right, we will talk some football in just
a second.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
We'll end on that. But I do want to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And shift gears if we could, and get on over
to the Association game one of the Western Conference Finals.
I know where I'm at, I know where you're at.
It's all about the ECF and our minds, and I
think a lot of people out there are probably in agreement.
I would imagine Commissioner Silver is begging for the Knicks
to win this series against the Pacers because something tells
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me that Indiana versus OKC or Indiana versus Minnesota, and
maybe we doing too well in.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
The ratings book. But at the end of the day
when you start to think. Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
On television right now, they're asking, should seventy six ers
trade for Kevin Durant? H Oh, he's going somewhere trade
what what are we trading three in?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Paul George is the idea? Yeah, I wouldn't trade three. Yeah,
it's a it's a non starter. It's a joke to me.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like Paul George for him
straight up cool?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, yeah. Part you can't pour future assets into the
current team. It has to be about the.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Why would the Sixers even think twice about that?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yeah, it's well, we can get to the whole Sixers
conversation in a minute. With the draft. I people are
deranged about this, about this pick, all.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right, So with that Western Conference Finals tonight, I know
that you and I are and everybody else we we
can't wait for the Knicks and the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But tonight it's going to be a pretty good game.
These two teams have battled this year.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I think they split two and two really intriguing. They
play back to back one time where they both one
on the opponent's floor. I just look at the number
Mark and I say to myself that, like the Minnesota
Timberwolves continue to be undervalued. Here they have been, they
were last year, They've proven their worth and then here
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they are. I know that OKAC is a damn good
basketball team, but I'm sick and tired of us possibly
saying that the Minnesota Timberwolves aren't.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And I know these things have ebbs and flows.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
In a game one like, could Minnesota lose by double
digits tonight? Of course anything is possible, but if you
get the best of the best of their effort, I
do expect this to be a good ballgame, and I'll
take the seven and a half with the dog tonight.
I feel pretty good about that play Again, anything can happen.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
We know how these things play out.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
It is a seven game series, gotta win for but
I like the dog here tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Anything for you in this one, No.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I think the series is going seven. If I had
to guess, I would pick Okayse to win it. But
I'm really not confident at all in this series. I
can't imagine I'll be betting on it too much unless I,
you know, watch the games and see some matchup I like.
But Timberwolves are twenty five and six in the last
thirty thirty one games. They're they're a really good team,
and they've really found their stride and their depth here
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late in the year when they've gotten healthy, and yeah,
they're they're really good the minute. The okay See thing
is crazy. They have the highest point differential in NBA history,
the best point differential in NBA history. The next ten
teams on that list did not lose three games before
they got to the conference finals. Okay See just lost
three games to Denver in one series, let alone two
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series combined. And I think they did only lose three games.
I think they swept their first series if I remember correctly.
But I do think it concerns me that last series
was so hard for Oklahoma City. And I know that
Jokic is great. I know how good he is. Denver
is not that good. That team is not that deep.
They do not have a lot of ancillary options to Jokic,
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And it concerns me that okay See was pushed to
the limit. Now you could say how limit, you know,
how close were they pushed? They came out and blew
them out in game seven. They got through a game though,
so I think it's fair to you know, think Minnesota
has a really good chance to win this series. I
think it kind of goes along with the same reasons.
I think Indiana has a really good chance to win
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their series.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, and that's going off tomorrow and that run is
a four and a half. Again, I think the Dogs
continue to bark here. I like the Pacers in that
Game one. I like the Pacers in that series, and flip.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
A coin as far as the t Wolves did, Okay,
see Thunder.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I didn't want to buy into the Thunder winning the
title this year getting to the NBA Finals due to
the fact that the SGA and the MVP and those
expectations to build up. But it just seems like it's
going to happen for them. We'll see what happens tonight, though.
Game one is gonna be a lot of fun over
these next two weeks with both of these series quickly
on the Pacers and the Knicks, you know, and again
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we have all this attention, of course because of New
York and the fan base, and they're crazy and we
deal with it with here in Philadelphia. But this is
a little throwback vibe, man, dating all the way back
to the last time that these two teams based off
in the Eastern Conference Finals back in two thousand Mark
Henry Jr. When they starting five for the New York
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Knicks consisted of Larry Johnson, Latrelle Spreewell, Patrick Ewing, Charlie Ward,
and Alan Houston.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
How about that that's something. It's not gonna be enough
because the Pacers are wearing the series in five.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Five.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sorry, the Pacers are going to take care of the
New York Sam Austrey's is what I what I meant
to say, big Knicks fan, I mean, the biggest Nicks fan.
I know, a huge Knicks fan, Sam Austrey. The guy
has a Jalen Brunson poster on his wall. He's got
a Knicks tattoo on his chest. I don't know if
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you heard Sean. There's actually no reason for them to
play this series. Really, yeah, Sam said that the Pacers
have negative chance, no shot, zero percent chance.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Look, we we gotta give him some some credit here
because he.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Was on the Knicks in that pot.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
He didn't say the Knicks we're gonna beat Boston before
the series. He said they were up to.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Oh, that's fair, it's fair. That's fair. So now he
is at least sticky to his guns.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Bernard's the best of Bernard's, Like, yeah, I could see
the Pacers sweeping over and it's just.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Like, we know what you're going to say here, But
you like him. You like him in five though, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Five, I'm being a little a little uh, it's probably six,
but I'm being a little Just add a little juice
to it to say five. I really do think Indiana
is a better team. They're forty eight and nineteen in
their last sixty seven games. This is a team that's
stunked to start. They they started ten and fifteen. Since
that moment, they've been one of the best teams in basketball.
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And what I would say is that I think that
the Tom Thibodeau style has flamed out of the playoffs.
Every time he's ever made the playoffs, he plays his
guys a ton of minutes. He's done it again here
this year. He's done it again in the first two
rounds in the playoffs. It's usually catches up to them
in the second round. I think it catches up to
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them against a team that goes ten deep, that runs
up and down the court, that takes a million threes,
I think Indiana is a nightmare matchup for New York.
And I know people are gonna say, oh, well, they
just got they just beat Boston and takes a million threes.
Boston had a big man who looked like he has
a syndrome that we don't know, an unnamed syndrome. They
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have Jason Tatum who went out with three minutes of
Game five when they were down to or game four,
and who knows what happens in the last three minutes there.
Who knows what happens once it's three to one if
Jason Tatum's out there. I mean they beat him by
thirty without Jason Tatum on home court in Game five
to get it to Game six. So people are and
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Sam's the biggest proponent of this making the Indiana playoff
run in the Indiana era of basketball. Here, it's just
injuries based Oh, it's just injuries. The Cavs were so hurt.
Darius Carlin missed two games, Donovan Mitchell missed the half
once they were down thirty, and Evan Modley missed one game.
It's not like that whole series was injury prone for Cavs.
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They had everybody out there when they got blown out
by forty.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I think the Pacers win that series if everybody's healthy.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
I totally agree, I totally I wasn't saying it before,
but man, come on, you know, And I don't know
if I say the same thing about New York. If
Kris STAPs is Chris STAPs and if Jason Tatum plays
the last couple of games of that series, I don't
think New York's here. So I think if we're talking
about the team that's here because of injuries, it's much
more in New York than Indiana. And I get the Dame.
They didn't have to play Dame in round one. They
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were gonna beat the Milwaukee Bucks. Let me just tell you,
the Bucks stunk, and they stunk all year long. They
weren't gonna beat the Pacers in round one. I don't
care if Dane Willard was out there. I don't care
who was out there. So I think we have all
really underrated the Pacers all year long. And I don't
think I talked enough about in the second half of
the year the run that they were on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
All right, so that is tomorrow, So you like Pacers
in Game one, catching.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
The four and a half, I'm not betting any of
the games. I bet them plus one thirty to win
the series for ten units. Ten unit banger, massive bet
for me. So I'm I'm in hard on the Pacers
of plus one thirty. I think that numbers went down
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
But clot cover your ears because I am not rooting
against your wager at all.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
But man, from an.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
NBA fans perspective, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Good like you.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It just the vibe is up here if the Knicks
get there, and I don't want to see that at all, right,
but at least like there's some new juice and wow,
and you're talking about teams that have never won a
championship before three out of the four, so it's like
we should have this this buzz. But it feels like
it exists with the Knicks somewhat. Okay, see t Wolves
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a little bit there, and then the Pacers at the
pace there's just completely being slept on again after what
they've been able to put together.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
We'll see what happens though.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Good luck and all those plays, Marky Pucks we go
down to the final four. As far as the Stanley
is concerned, here, any plays for you tonight Panthers and
Kines Caines at home, and then tomorrow the big one
with the Edmonton and Dallas. That's gonna be a great series.
Both of them a gonna be great series. Both have
been some really good teams over the last few seasons.
Here anything for you in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
I have I have Panthers plus seven to fifty to
win the Cup. Placed it at the beginning of the playoffs.
They were the team that I decided to ride with
this year. So I'm all panthered. UF you watched that
Watch that game seven U six' to? One did not
the sweat. It here we, are So i'm A panthers.
Fan i'll be watching that. Tonight i'll place A panthers
money line bets.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
That got the six to. ONE i watched that game
in the. Hospital it was three to nothing and it
was three.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
To, one And i'm, like all, right not dead, yet
and then The panthers scored. Again i'm, like all, right
that game's over and they've scored six to.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
One that's.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
FUNNY i didn't even know see the final. Score uh,
YEAH a lot's been going on around, here but that's all.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Right we're. Back we're easing into. It great week of
shows coming your. Way shout Out.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Sam austrey And Sean bernard holding it down for all
things picks role talking out THINGS nba. Playoffs we Got
luke Car kenny was checking in doing a great job
With crossing.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Broad live at the Ball yard too as.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Well Uh phillies on the road In Colorado game two.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Tonight nothing happening. There just enjoy the game back. Tomorrow
brand new daily ticket coming your. Way Mark Emmy.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Jr can be heard Every saturday from eleven to, one
a tough cover radio. Show he's In chicago holding it
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mark on this beautiful morning here in The Delaware. Valley
safe travels and any final thoughts you want to get
off your chest.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
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i'll also TAKE. Vj but he's no No Conkin, upple
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i have a.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
LINE i like that he's a it's a reach, Right
like he's a good, player but it's you can't take
him that.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
High, YEAH i think he has absolutely no star equity
where ACE. Vj, Maliloch Trey. Johnson you can squint with
any of those four guys and, say, wow the upside
is something that really changes a. Franchise conkin upples upside is, like,
oh he could be a better Bogdan.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Bogdanovic can The sixers screwed this?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Up absolutely Take conkin uple and they screwed it?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Up they.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
WON'T i don't think they will. EITHER i don't think.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
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Speaker 6 (44:27):
REALLY i would say he's the third guy at BEHIND
as AND vj and a lot of a lot a
lot Of sixers fans are out, there and it's not
just LIKE i would love to assign it to like
the right Wing sixers fans and who won a white,
Guy but it really hasn't been. That it's the nerds
Love Conkin. Upples SO I i think his upside is extremely,
(44:48):
limited AND i think his defense at six' five is
going to be. A problem he's too slow to guard
any guard, that matters and he's too short to guard
any wing.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
That, matters Yeah that's i'm not feeling that. At ALL
but i Am Feeling ace BAILEY and i Was. With
rutgers we'll see what happens Though again sixers are back in.
The conversation gotta love, it, all right enjoy, the games
good luck and all of. Those Plays Mark. Henry jr
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girl. Oh so way we go.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Four teams remain, two series left until we get to
the NBA Finals. Of course, a lot to discuss happening
in the Philadelphia sports world.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
A late one last night, A great spot by the
legendary man by the name of Tom McCarthy T MAC
with the statistic the Phillies were one and fifteen when.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Trailing after seven, I want to say it was.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And then next thing you know, Alec Bohm puts him
on top with a tow ur in bomb to center.
Of course, the boys held off at the end, added
at a couple more to close up shop and a
big time win overdose. Colorado Rockies who held competitions who
have played forty seven total games, Mark Andrey Junior and
(01:49):
have won eight eight eight, And yes, there was a
moment or two throughout the course of last night's game
that I go it would be funny to see them
lose to this team, but they're proferred.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Was at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Shout out to the Phillies for coming through and getting
out of victory. And shout out to Mark Henry Junior
back on the road in some city town and Illinois
joining us here on a daily ticket.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
It's a Tuesday, Mark, how we doing today, sir? Doing well?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
The Colorado Rockies are on pace for twenty seven and
one thirty five right now, but don't worry. Phillies have
three more chances. Had a heartbreaking loss this.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Week, twenty seven wins. Trying to think like you know,
so I always tell this story.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I went to Colorado one time, went to Denver one time,
and it was a.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
This was just a couple of years ago, as pre
kids all that sixteen fifteen, whatever it may have been.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Wife and I go out there, we partake.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It was a huge deal for us, only place that
was legal at the time. So we get out there,
great vibes, unbelievable area. Of course, you can high and
it's just unbelievable. Next thing, you know, the Padres. It
was in the middle of the summer and the Rockies
were playing at San Diego and they were the two
teams at the top. If I'm not mistaken, I think
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they were tied for first place.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There was a ballpark bar that's similar to Xfinity Live
right outside Corus Field.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
So I go, all right, the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Are on the road, Let's go to a place that
I know is gonna have some jam, some buzz. So
we go there, Mark, I kid you, and not place
was packed one hundred TVs. If I'm lying, I'm dying.
Not one of them had the Rockies game on.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Not one.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
It was literally the.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Second ending of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I walk in guy from Philadelphia and had to ask
them to put the game on that they literally are
ninety yards away from home plate when they're at home
And I don't know, Like again, I just think, like,
we are so lucky to be in Philadelphia, be sports
fans in this city because we care.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
And it's so important to us.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And then you go around you look at some of
these ballparks and it's like you can hear a pin drop,
Like last night watching that Rockies game, there was more
Philly fans in the building than anything. It's just that's
a bad organization, man. And I hate to say I
feel for them, because I don't. I don't even feel
for them, like they're just they're the Rockies.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
They they I think that the most irrelevant franchise in sports,
taking hockey out. I don't know hockey as much to
parse that apart the Big three, the American Professional Sports,
not the faken.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
The most irrelevant franchise in sports.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Of the NFL, MLBNBA, I don't think there's a more
irrelevant franchise than than the Colorado Rockies. Maybe Charlotte the Hornets. Good,
the Charlotte Hornets are up there. The Pelicans are probably
up there.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The Pelicans were one of the first that came to
my mind too as well.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
That almost feels like cheating though, because those two. I
guess Colorado's kind of new too though mid ninety nineties. Yeah,
they're relatively new as well, so it's it's similar. Yeah,
I mean, Loof's right, Bryce said it best. They're a
loser organization. They've won seventy six plus games twice in
fifteen years. The last fifteen years, not five hundred. They've
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won seven more than seventy six games twice in the
last fifteen years. So yeah, just an organization that does
not care about its fans. And it's funny their attendance
is actually usually in the top ten, even over the
last five to ten years.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yes, gotta be the opposing fans, it has to be.
That's a good Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I mean, people love the ballpark. People say it's one
of the nicest ballparks in baseball, one of the ones
I definitely have on the list to get to. And
part of it is just like they're screwed forever because
they'll never get a pitcher to ever sign there. True
to the way that the altitude is and the ballpark
that they just it's such a high run ballpark. The
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only way that they can ever get pitching talent is
to develop and that's hard to do and they've shown
no ability to do.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Look, it was brought up yesterday on the broadcast where they.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Went out and had all these these pictures and I'm
not even gonna pretend to name them, but they had
young talent. They went and paid all these guys. I
thought it would pay off. It's just a tough ballpark.
Like you said, to keep the ball in the yard
A and then b when you do make mistakes signing
Chris Bryant, you know, and you spend all that money
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on the wrong player, it's only.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Gonna set you back.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's a shame though, because like you said, it is
a nice ballpark. A lot of people like to go there.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Maybe on the flip side of that for opposing fans
at least, you know, when you're gonna go to Colorado,
you're gonna see a victory, right, Like that's always good.
But man, last night I'm just watching that game, I'm like,
come on, dude, Like.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Everybody was just busting their stones.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
How many wins they had, and they're gonna go and
lose Game one again. I'm not gonna lose my mind
over it. I just was like, don't lose, come on,
let's find a way to win.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
And the Phillies did.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They battled back, and you know, I want to bring
up this, What does that stat.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Do to you? If anything?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Albeit may twentieth that this team I believe, if I'm
not mistaken, he said one in fifteen after a trailing
after seven innings.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Does that mean anything to you? Does that do anything
to you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Like, we know what we know about this team, we
know their deficiencies, but you know, where is the big bat,
right besides Schwarber in that eighth or ninth inning. I
don't know it hit me when you go only one
time that they've come out on top and found a
way to win out of sixteen opportunities.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think it goes back to what's
been my concern with this team all along is that
the third bopper doesn't exist. We don't have that third
power bat. We're so contact dependent, which is not a
place I ever thought we'd get to with this Phillies roster,
in this Phillies era of baseball. But it's where we're at.
What I'd say is like it was kind of I think.
(07:59):
I I think I don't know if this was on
my show or on your show where I talked about
this a couple of weeks ago, but I think part
of why we were so heightened concern about the bullpen.
It's a little different story now without Almorado around, but
why we were so concerned to start the year with
the bullpen was because every game was close, every game
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was coming down to a run or two because we
weren't getting those power explosions, those three run homers that
put you up in the game comfortably to the point
where you're not up one run. So if every game
is close, or every game is tied, or we're down
one in every game, every run that the bullpen feel
gives up feels like a killer, as opposed to when you're,
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you know, down six to two and a bullpen gives
up a runner. You're up eight to one and the
bullpen gives up a run, it's a different feeling. Whereas
I think early in the year, every run that the
bullpen gave up was it felt like completely changing the
complexion of the game. And I think that kind of
is I think that's what that stat is. I think
that stat goes back to us not blowing teams out.
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I'm actually curious. I wonder what the Phillies record is
on the run line, because I can't imagine it's great.
I can't imagine that they've won a ton of games
by multiple runs, and I know that they're they're like
minus one eighty than on the run line minus one
and a half. This is bad radio. My apologies. That's
actually better than our thought nineteen and nineteen, So I
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guess they have about half the time covered as a
as a one and a half run line. That's surprising, though,
because it does feel like every game seventh to the
ninth inning, we're you know, clenching and open. Basically, it
does feel like that. But what I will say is
does it concern me? It's hard to be too concerned
when we have the best record in the National League.
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I mean, who would have thought, sitting here on May twentieth,
we have a better record than Shoe Otani and Freddie
Freeman and Mookie Betts and Tyler Glass now's out, but
Yamamoto and Sasaki?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Wait, the five World Series champion, you mean to.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Tell Yeah, it's pretty shocking that we're sitting here. And
I was relatively hot on this team coming into the year.
I thought they'd win ninety four ninety five games and
you know, compete for the division. But I was higher
on Atlanta. But the fact that you're sitting here, you know,
two months into the year with a better record than
let alone anybody in the NL, but especially the Dodgers,
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I think it has to quell any concerns that you
do have about that power back now. They have needs
and I hope they addressed them. But they're they're a
really good team.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Nobody hotter right now when it comes to the world
of sports gambler than Mark Henry Junior. Hosted a tough
cover radio show every Saturday from eleven to one home home.
Mark is giving out winners left and right, cash and
tickets and putting everything out on solid socials as he
has done his whole entire time of I've known this man.
Nobody is more transparent when it comes to the world
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of sports gambling than Mark Henry Jr.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
And if they all appreciate that, yeah, well absolutely, Like.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Nobody puts their plates up first thing in the morning
than you, brother.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
So yes, you are a hell of a run right now.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So I want to talk a little bit more. You
brought up the National League. Yeah, I won't lie. I
had a little bit of some stuff going on last
week that kind of took me off the radar. When
I pulled out my laptop yesterday and saw the the
Detroit Tigers the best record in baseball, Yeah, my jaw
was on the floor. We know what took place last
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year was an unbelievable story. But then you change and everything,
just the narratives completely flip, and now we're talking about
a team with expectations.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, they have some pretty good ball players. They have
an overall number one.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Draft pick and Torlksen. They got some other players out
there that have been high draft picks. Of course, we
know Screwball what he's been able to do, one of
the best pitchers in baseball, if not d bests. But
now we start to talk about the Detroit Tigers in
a different manner, like the expectations there for this team
moving forward, Mark are like, are we.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Talking about a team that could compete for a World Series?
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Here? You can at least compete to go to it.
I'm of the mindset that the NL. I don't think
I can ever remember in any sport feeling the way
that I feel the disparity between the NL and the AL.
I think the I think the NL is planets better
than the ALE, and I felt that way coming into
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the I know Mike Kyoto good Phillies Twitter follow was
really beating that drump all off season and saying, I
think his take was that the top seven NL teams
were better than the best AL team, And I don't
know if i'd still say that because Atlanta was considered
in there and some some teams. I don't think I've
lived up to it what we thought they'd beg But
I think the NL is far far better than the ALE.
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I think the Al's wide wide open for anybody who
wants to go take it. I mean, you just run
down the top of the list. You've got Detroit, and yeah,
the Detroit thing is all the guys are putting it
together at the same time. Riley Green, big prospect, he's
got a got an eight thirty six ops. All of
a sudden, Spencer Torkelsen, you mentioned him, he was a
super prospect, eight eighty five ops. Kerry Carpenter, who my
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buddy Pat Murrand likes to refer to as Kerry Bonds.
He loves, loves his power. Kerry Carpenter eight twelve ops.
And then you have clayber Torres, a guy they brought
in this offseason to fill the role there as just
a solid middle infielder. He's got an eighth eight OPS
with a two eighty four average. But the number one
story with this Tiger season I think is the re
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emergence of one of the most fun players in baseball
and Hobby Bias. I mean, this was a guy who
was one of the faces of baseball when he was
on the Cubs, or at least one of the one
of the most swaggy, fun to watch, highlight driven players
in the league. And you look at you know, his
Detroit tenure, it's been an absolute disaster. The first three
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years in Detroit, six seventy one ops, five ninety three ops,
five sixteen ops. He's up to eight eleven ops, hitting
two ninety one this year, all of a sudden play.
And he's even in those years where he was bad
at the plate, he's always been a great fielder and
he'll always be a great fielder. But the fact that
he's giving you what he's giving you at the plate,
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while he's obviously gonna, you know, give you what he
gives you in the field, he is and he's the
type of guy where I think his energy and swagger
is kind of contagious through a ball club, and I
think we saw that with some of those clubs teams,
and I think we're seeing it now with this Tigers team.
This Tigers team thinks they're the best team on the
on the field every game, and how could you not
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with the way that they've started this year the way
that they ended last year. I don't think there's anything
fraudulent about what's going on with the Tigers. You got
the Yankees. We thought they'd fall off without Sodo. Every
piece that they've brought in this offseason has looked great.
Max Freed is the best pitcher in baseball this year,
Coldy Bellinger's red hot, Paul Goldschmidt turned back the clock
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Like Seattle. The whole thing on Seattle was that they
have this great rotation but no good hitters. They've got
like a top five offense in baseball by every metric.
All of a sudden, these guys who we all kind
of had rode off or thought weren't going to be
very good as hitters all kind of coming back around.
And it's just it's wide Minnesota, a team that was
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dead a couple weeks to go, even they're nine and
one in their last ten. Now, my pick in the
AL was Kansas City. They're still hanging around at twenty
seven and twenty two. It's wide, wide open in the AL.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, there's there's a lot going on as far as
in both leagues, as you pointed out a little bit
more so as far as the National League winning, and
every one of the divisions, as far as National League
is concerned, there are three teams. Even in the West
there are four teams above five hundred, but each to
each league, East division has three teams above five hundred
at this point in time, and it's just crazy because
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you know, you want to see teams separate themselves, but
a lot of these teams are holding steady, and.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
We just don't know who's real and who's not at
this point in time. But that's the fun part of
sports wagering.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And that's why the Detroit Tigers are a great question
right here, right now, because I know a lot of
people were similar to me, you know, paying attention. We
understand what took place last year. We know that they
have some good pieces, good managers. One before yeah, great manager, right,
so they're putting it together.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I don't think we should.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Be surprised, But then you throw the best record in
baseball and I'm like, WHOA. I was not prepared for that.
Of course, they were lost last night to the Saint
Louis Cardinals. Oh by the way, A pretty hot team
in their own right.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
My father in law diehard Cardinals fan. Fun fact, so
I have to talk about the Saint Louis Cardinals a
lot with my father in law, and I stay up
on them and track them pretty closely to you know,
keep up in conversation. This was the team I thought
was gonna win like sixty five games, seventy games. I am.
I am floored by what's happening there. And I think
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that they've beaten up on a really brutal schedule recently
with some bad teams. So maybe it doesn't last year,
but twenty seven and twenty one and you know, they
came into Philly and took two or three air I
might have been in Saint Louis, I can't remember, but yeah,
to agree, they took two or three from us. So
it's not like it's been all bad teams that they've
been beating. I think they probably end up missing the playoffs,
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and I think they're probably fraudulent, but I mean, they've
shocked me this far. I mean, it's the team I
took the under on like seventy four and a half wins.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
On to make the playoffs right now, and the Saint
Louis Carters. Of course, this is a market that you
can make money on, or at least take a shot at.
Right now on the no minus two fifty plus two
ten on the yes again, it made twenty lot baseball
to be played, but a decent number. And that type
of wager gets you involved, right Like that's the thing
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about that wager is like you might not care about
the Saint Louis Cardinals at all, but then now you
place that wager and oh, by the way, now you're
checking that box score every single morning and at night
seeing what they're doing, so on and so forth.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah. I had an Arizona, big Arizona future to make
the playoffs last year, and then they came down to
like the last day of the year and the Mets
made it instead or someone made it instead. So that
that broke me last year because I was that was
that would have been a big winner, because I think
I bet I bet it when Arizona was like really
down in the dumbsit plus five or six hundred to
make the playoffs or something. Out of curiosity, where are
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the Cubs at in turns to make the playoffs? I
know that they're favored to win the division, so it's
gonna be lighter.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But Cubbies to make the playoffs at minus two ninety
on the yes, and.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Vegas knows they've played the hardest schedule in baseball and
it's not really Yeah, And if you look at their
upcoming schedule here and they to be fair, they they
did just sweep the or even just their last little
bit here, they they took two or three from the Marlins.
They just took three of three from the White Sox.
They have three more against the Marlins. They have three
against the Reds, they have three against the Rockies, three
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against the Reds, and then they played the Nationals. So
their next like fifteen games, they they're gonna probably end
up at the top of the NL in the next
couple of weeks here because they got all their Dodgers
series and they're they're tough braves, you know, Phillies Mets
type series out of the way a little bit in April,
so and it'll come back and they'll have a hard
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schedule down the stretch, I'm sure at some point. But
this next little stretch here for the Cubs maybe something
to watch for. I could see them going on a tear.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
All right, Well back to the Phillies eight forty. We'll
put a bow on this one again. You know, I
can't really get too crazy about this is just a game,
a series that they should sweep, a game that they
should win. Lazardo on the mount of minus two eighty
five total coming in at at ten and a half,
eight forty, first pitch here.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Anything you want to add?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And then I want to ask you about Alvarado and
of course, like what's the next move for Nebrowski here?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean this this is an unbeedable game, like
minus two to eighty or you're gonna like two and
a half runs with them, or you bet like the
team total at like six and a half. Yeah, I
just don't think there's a bet for this one.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, all right, shout out to Schwarber hitting three hundred
bombs yesterday. Harper's playing well since he shaved his head
a lot on the folks over at Crossing broad had
that number.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Let's talk about the Joel Embiid head shave in November
is gonna be legendary. We just have to get it,
get it for every team. We got it with Nick
Bryce's red hot.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
The camera's over there.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Sorry, that's funny, But I don't know. It doesn't have
to be Joelle. Maybe Max he goes with a buzz cut.
Maybe I don't see I don't see it for Jerry McCain.
Maybe Nick Jurse. That's the I think Joe.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Joe has had like short hair before, right, yeah, yes,
he's had a bunch of yeah, yeah, yes, he's been
here for over a decade. So uh yeah, we've seen
it all and then some we do have NBA discussion
coming our way.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
We will hit on that and we'll have some fun
as what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
With the future of this franchise when it comes to
the NBA Draft.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
I am. I you know that I checked out of
the Sixers season pretty like pretty early, and I just
couldn't spend my mentals on it. And I think maybe
it's over compensating it. Since we've gotten the third pick,
I think I've thought about Ace Bailey every hour since
really or any name. I I'm just I love Ace Bailey,
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I love VJ. Edgecombe. So I'm obsessed with this pick.
I'm a draft guy, as you know, so this is
this is my nitty gritty. So I have been maybe
it's over compensating for not paying attention to sixers for
multiple months, but I'm back now. I'm excited if they
would have got if they wouldn't have gotten the pick'd
yeah different thinking about him and talk to God, could.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
You imagine that?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah? Well yeah, look and we will get into uh
Ace Bailey in that conversation. But one more, as far
as Alvarado is concerned, I will put the bow on
the phillies here, you know, Like people ask me all
the time, like who's good when it comes to bullpen,
Like because if you're not watching every day and see
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this and even right hand in the air, even me,
sometimes I'll be like, they showed somebody.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
The other day into bullpen, and I'm like, who the
hell is that guy?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
But Alvarado's been with us for quite some time, and
nobody is going to be perfect coming out of the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Bar Nunn Alvarado, though, I.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Think one of the last times we did see him
that really dropped our jaw on the floor is when
he struck out the base, struck three guys out when
the bases were loaded in that game at home and
you know, like the question I guess I would ask
for you is how big of a loss is Alvarado
for this team? And of course he's not going to
be their postseason How good was he pitching this year?
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And you know, I think this is why Dombrowski and
those that those scouts get paid the big bucks, right Like,
there are plenty of teams out there that have good
players that aren't playing for anything, that will absolutely move
some of these decent pieces and bullpens, and I expected
Dobrowski to go out there and find someone. I don't
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think we're going to entertain any names at this point
in time, but let's focus on the loss. How big
of a loss is Jose Alvarado To you Mark Hevy Junior.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
It's huge. There's no sugarcoating it. There's no spin zone
I can take or it's massive. He's our best reliever,
He's our most reliable reliever. Seemed like a clubhouse guy
who the team rallied around, especially you know when you
get in jams and I there's it's really upsetting. You know.
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I love Alvarado, probably one of my favorite players on
the team. You know, that moment with the kid in
the stands breaks your heart thinking about it now. But yeah, yeah,
it's really there's just no positives. I you know that
I was kind of the positive guy on the bullpen.
I was telling everybody, relaxed, Nobody or not many teams
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can match our top four when you throw Alvarado, kirkering Strom,
and Romano. Now that we can say Romano, but that
top four, the way that they had been pitching, especially
in May, they'd all been elite, and they've all shown
the ability to be elite, whether it's last year or
in their care and I would have put that top
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four up there just about any top four in any
bullpens in baseball.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Now.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
The problem was, even with that four, our five through
eight was nowhere near acceptable. The bottom of our bullpen
is not good enough. And it's a shame because I
think that they have a lot of guys in the
farm system who seem to be killing it and the
miners out of the bullpen or even as starters. I
think that the weird part about this conversation about what
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you're trading for in the bullpen is we have eight starters.
We have legitimately eight starters right now, and I don't
know how you handle that in relation to trades, and
how you handle that in relation to putting some guys
in the bullpen. And everybody's got, you know, the magic
bullet answer on what you should do, but you just
run down the list. Wheelers not going to the bullpen,
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Lozard is not going to the bullpen. Sanchez isn't going
to the bullpen. Aaron Nola has like one hundred million
dollars for the next five years or maybe more than
that on his deal. I think it's like one hundred
and fifty. Actually, I think I way undershot that number
for the next five years on that deal. Mick Abel
just came up and threw one of the best first
start debuts I've ever seen from any pitcher in baseball.
Andrew Painter's coming up in the next month and a
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half and he's going to be a starter when he
gets up. Taiwan Walker just got put back in the rotation,
and to be fair to him, has been extremely serviceable.
And then you have Ranger Suarez, who I didn't even mention,
who's been fantastic his last two timeouts and also has
experienced in the bullpen, but is a free agent, and
it's hard to put a guy in a contract year
in the bullpen. Now, what I would say to that
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is they did it to Zach Ethlin. Zach Eflin went
to the bullpen for US in twenty twenty two in
the playoffs and still got paid a good chunk of
change from the Tampa Bay Rays to go be a
starter and then ended up in Baltimore. But Ranger will
be in the bullpen in October. I think that that's
at this point, with all the options, I think that's
pretty fair to say. And I think Nola's in the
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rotation in October almost regardless of what happens if he's healthy.
I think he's shown enough in the playoffs to probably
even if he has a bad year, probably get at
least a shot to start. You're not taking any of Wheeler,
Sanchez or Lozardo out, So to me, that means we
have Painter and Able, as you know, potential bullpen guys.
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I think Painter will be in the bullpen in October
if if Andrew Painter. Here's my I was arguing about
this with Luke yesterday and he wasn't really even arguing
with me, but I got into it with someone online
as I'm one to do. And I I said that
someone got mad about Andrew Painter getting put in the
bullpen and all we can't ruin his routine and all
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that stuff. I get it. He had Tommy Johnny Argo, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But if he he's gonna be a starter in the
regular season, they're going to try to see what he
can do at the MLB level as a starter. When
we if we get to October, and Andrew Paynter has
a sub b R under four and there's not a
spot for him in the rotation because you have Wheeler, Sanchez,
Lozarda and Nola. They're not sending him down. He's going
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to the bullpen, and that's just that's just natural. So
if we're now talking about a bullpen that has oriyan Strom,
Romano Ranger, Painter and either able or what you get
for able on the trade market, then that's interesting. How
much do you really have to go spend on a
bullpen guy or do you have to go just get
(27:18):
kind of a lower level guy to get you through
the regular season and get you to the playoffs. Because
I do think as long as you know, all the
starters stay healthy, which probably isn't likely, but you can't
really plan for injury. So as long as all the
starters stay healthy, I think they're gonna have a lot
of bullpen options come October, even if they don't make
too many news interesting.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, and it's a long season.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Nobody's not getting there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Exactly, and nobody's panicking.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And Dobrowski's been there and done that, made many, many, many,
many many trades over the years.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
So it's great to have the riches that they have
right now.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Of course with Mickabel coming in and what he was
able to do in that first start paint And it's funny,
as I made the joke over the weekend with my
father in law hand in the air, I'm like, Painter's
been the guy that I've always heard about, Like mc gable.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
The hell where did this come from?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
So again I'm not mister minor league report here every week,
but again, Painter was the guy that everybody was building
up this hype around, and Able came in and delivered
and that was an awesome, awesome game one nothing and
welcome to the big time leagues. As far as you know,
it's it's like these big time pitchers that don't get
(28:33):
run support. You just like you're in a different world
when that happens for you and you're able to mow down.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
These batters and you lose a game one nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It happened a lot, and I don't even want to
put him in that conversation, but he was great.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Cole Hamils.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I felt like Cole Hamils when when he was in
his heyday he didn't get run support. He would go
out there, of course you had Doc Roy would go
out there and want to get run support.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
Some time.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You would lose the ball games, and then you go
around the league and it's just a different it's a
different level when you go out there and you hold
it down, you hold a team to one run, strikeout nine.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
And then come away with a loss, and there's nothing
you could do about it. But that's what baseball baseball.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Ski he's the best picture I've seen since Pedro. So
he's He's I've never I haven't seen anything like it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
But does he have Tommy John though, that's the only
thing that I'm in that you know, like it's.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
It's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It just sucks, but that's yeah, you're right, Well, hopefully
it doesn't.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
We'll see, but he is unbelievable. Mark, He's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
One last thing I just have to get off my
chest before we move on. O Ryan Kirkering. People are
dumb about Oryan Kirkering, and I just want to make
that clear.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Devin Kaney, who I like and I'm friends with her,
he saw that tweet. We have to have an honest
conversation about Ryan Kirkring. And I actually, I actually don't
have as much of a problem with the tweet because
when she said it, it was first and second no out,
and then he gets three outs, so it worked out.
But the tweet, if you want to say, you know whatever,
(30:07):
that's fine. The replies to that tweet have me thinking
we are the dumbest fan base in the history.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Of on social media.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Absolutely, Oh my god, we're top three.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
The way people are talking about Oriyan Kirkering is like
every time he has bad outing, it's like, oh, well,
we got to send him down or you know, he's done.
He's never been his game that didn't live up to
the hype. Oriyan Kirkering had a two two nine ERA
and sixty four appearances last year. He was one of
the twenty best relievers in baseball last year and now
(30:40):
and now we're we're just throwing him out. He's got
a four he's got a four oh eight RA. It's
not like he's, you know, murdering the team. There's been
plenty of worst eras and if you look in May,
he's got like a one to three R in May.
He's really really found his stride over the last seven
or eight appearances. Seven of his last eight games up
in scoreless appearances. And I love Matt Strom commenting on
(31:03):
that tweet and saying, please enlighten me, and.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
She didn't respond though. That was my only thing about Devon.
I love Devin. Devin's my girl.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Yeah, look, you know you got a professional athlete that
comes back you respond to him, like, let's go all right,
you said what you said, he wants to enlighten him,
and you could take it however you want.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
But let's get that conversation going. What was your issue?
And I would love to know what Strom said. I'm
right there with you. Ruben Tomorrow backed it up. I
did did like his his thoughts and that. But yeah, Mark,
we are with social media, we're top three worst.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Like I would say, Nicks slash New York US and
then what you know, like.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
A Chicago I will say this is under the radar.
This is one team that the Lions fans are annoying online.
I don't know if anybody else is dealt with that.
I think the Lions fans are worst of the worst,
and maybe that's also because they're Michigan fans, and I
think they're up at the top as well. But yeah,
I have a lot, for some reason, a lot of
(32:03):
Michigan Detroit followers who come at me anytime I say
anything negative about the Lions.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, all right, we will talk some football in just
a second.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
We'll end on that. But I do want to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
And shift gears if we could, and get on over
to the Association game one of the Western Conference Finals.
I know where I'm at, I know where you're at.
It's all about the ECF and our minds, and I
think a lot of people out there are probably in agreement.
I would imagine Commissioner Silver is begging for the Knicks
to win this series against the Pacers because something tells
(32:36):
me that Indiana versus OKC or Indiana versus Minnesota, and
maybe we doing too well in.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
The ratings book. But at the end of the day
when you start to think. Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
On television right now, they're asking, should seventy six ers
trade for Kevin Durant? H Oh, he's going somewhere trade
what what are we trading three in?
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Paul George is the idea? Yeah, I wouldn't trade three. Yeah,
it's a it's a non starter. It's a joke to me.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like Paul George for him
straight up cool?
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, yeah. Part you can't pour future assets into the
current team. It has to be about the.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Why would the Sixers even think twice about that?
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yeah, it's well, we can get to the whole Sixers
conversation in a minute. With the draft. I people are
deranged about this, about this pick, all.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Right, So with that Western Conference Finals tonight, I know
that you and I are and everybody else we we
can't wait for the Knicks and the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
But tonight it's going to be a pretty good game.
These two teams have battled this year.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I think they split two and two really intriguing. They
play back to back one time where they both one
on the opponent's floor. I just look at the number
Mark and I say to myself that, like the Minnesota
Timberwolves continue to be undervalued. Here they have been, they
were last year, They've proven their worth and then here
(34:08):
they are. I know that OKAC is a damn good
basketball team, but I'm sick and tired of us possibly
saying that the Minnesota Timberwolves aren't.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
And I know these things have ebbs and flows.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
In a game one like, could Minnesota lose by double
digits tonight? Of course anything is possible, but if you
get the best of the best of their effort, I
do expect this to be a good ballgame, and I'll
take the seven and a half with the dog tonight.
I feel pretty good about that play Again, anything can happen.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
We know how these things play out.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
It is a seven game series, gotta win for but
I like the dog here tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Anything for you in this one, No.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
I think the series is going seven. If I had
to guess, I would pick Okayse to win it. But
I'm really not confident at all in this series. I
can't imagine I'll be betting on it too much unless I,
you know, watch the games and see some matchup I like.
But Timberwolves are twenty five and six in the last
thirty thirty one games. They're they're a really good team,
and they've really found their stride and their depth here
(35:06):
late in the year when they've gotten healthy, and yeah,
they're they're really good the minute. The okay See thing
is crazy. They have the highest point differential in NBA history,
the best point differential in NBA history. The next ten
teams on that list did not lose three games before
they got to the conference finals. Okay See just lost
three games to Denver in one series, let alone two
(35:27):
series combined. And I think they did only lose three games.
I think they swept their first series if I remember correctly.
But I do think it concerns me that last series
was so hard for Oklahoma City. And I know that
Jokic is great. I know how good he is. Denver
is not that good. That team is not that deep.
They do not have a lot of ancillary options to Jokic,
(35:50):
And it concerns me that okay See was pushed to
the limit. Now you could say how limit, you know,
how close were they pushed? They came out and blew
them out in game seven. They got through a game though,
so I think it's fair to you know, think Minnesota
has a really good chance to win this series. I
think it kind of goes along with the same reasons.
I think Indiana has a really good chance to win
(36:10):
their series.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, and that's going off tomorrow and that run is
a four and a half. Again, I think the Dogs
continue to bark here. I like the Pacers in that
Game one. I like the Pacers in that series, and flip.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
A coin as far as the t Wolves did, Okay,
see Thunder.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I didn't want to buy into the Thunder winning the
title this year getting to the NBA Finals due to
the fact that the SGA and the MVP and those
expectations to build up. But it just seems like it's
going to happen for them. We'll see what happens tonight, though.
Game one is gonna be a lot of fun over
these next two weeks with both of these series quickly
on the Pacers and the Knicks, you know, and again
(36:50):
we have all this attention, of course because of New
York and the fan base, and they're crazy and we
deal with it with here in Philadelphia. But this is
a little throwback vibe, man, dating all the way back
to the last time that these two teams based off
in the Eastern Conference Finals back in two thousand Mark
Henry Jr. When they starting five for the New York
(37:10):
Knicks consisted of Larry Johnson, Latrelle Spreewell, Patrick Ewing, Charlie Ward,
and Alan Houston.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
How about that that's something. It's not gonna be enough
because the Pacers are wearing the series in five.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Five.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sorry, the Pacers are going to take care of the
New York Sam Austrey's is what I what I meant
to say, big Knicks fan, I mean, the biggest Nicks fan.
I know, a huge Knicks fan, Sam Austrey. The guy
has a Jalen Brunson poster on his wall. He's got
a Knicks tattoo on his chest. I don't know if
(37:49):
you heard Sean. There's actually no reason for them to
play this series. Really, yeah, Sam said that the Pacers
have negative chance, no shot, zero percent chance.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Look, we we gotta give him some some credit here
because he.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Was on the Knicks in that pot.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
He didn't say the Knicks we're gonna beat Boston before
the series. He said they were up to.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Oh, that's fair, it's fair. That's fair. So now he
is at least sticky to his guns.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Bernard's the best of Bernard's, Like, yeah, I could see
the Pacers sweeping over and it's just.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Like, we know what you're going to say here, But
you like him. You like him in five though, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Five, I'm being a little a little uh, it's probably six,
but I'm being a little Just add a little juice
to it to say five. I really do think Indiana
is a better team. They're forty eight and nineteen in
their last sixty seven games. This is a team that's
stunked to start. They they started ten and fifteen. Since
that moment, they've been one of the best teams in basketball.
(38:45):
And what I would say is that I think that
the Tom Thibodeau style has flamed out of the playoffs.
Every time he's ever made the playoffs, he plays his
guys a ton of minutes. He's done it again here
this year. He's done it again in the first two
rounds in the playoffs. It's usually catches up to them
in the second round. I think it catches up to
(39:06):
them against a team that goes ten deep, that runs
up and down the court, that takes a million threes,
I think Indiana is a nightmare matchup for New York.
And I know people are gonna say, oh, well, they
just got they just beat Boston and takes a million threes.
Boston had a big man who looked like he has
a syndrome that we don't know, an unnamed syndrome. They
(39:27):
have Jason Tatum who went out with three minutes of
Game five when they were down to or game four,
and who knows what happens in the last three minutes there.
Who knows what happens once it's three to one if
Jason Tatum's out there. I mean they beat him by
thirty without Jason Tatum on home court in Game five
to get it to Game six. So people are and
(39:48):
Sam's the biggest proponent of this making the Indiana playoff
run in the Indiana era of basketball. Here, it's just
injuries based Oh, it's just injuries. The Cavs were so hurt.
Darius Carlin missed two games, Donovan Mitchell missed the half
once they were down thirty, and Evan Modley missed one game.
It's not like that whole series was injury prone for Cavs.
(40:08):
They had everybody out there when they got blown out
by forty.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I think the Pacers win that series if everybody's healthy.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
I totally agree, I totally I wasn't saying it before,
but man, come on, you know, And I don't know
if I say the same thing about New York. If
Kris STAPs is Chris STAPs and if Jason Tatum plays
the last couple of games of that series, I don't
think New York's here. So I think if we're talking
about the team that's here because of injuries, it's much
more in New York than Indiana. And I get the Dame.
They didn't have to play Dame in round one. They
(40:35):
were gonna beat the Milwaukee Bucks. Let me just tell you,
the Bucks stunk, and they stunk all year long. They
weren't gonna beat the Pacers in round one. I don't
care if Dane Willard was out there. I don't care
who was out there. So I think we have all
really underrated the Pacers all year long. And I don't
think I talked enough about in the second half of
the year the run that they were on.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
All right, so that is tomorrow, So you like Pacers
in Game one, catching.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
The four and a half, I'm not betting any of
the games. I bet them plus one thirty to win
the series for ten units. Ten unit banger, massive bet
for me. So I'm I'm in hard on the Pacers
of plus one thirty. I think that numbers went down
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
But clot cover your ears because I am not rooting
against your wager at all.
Speaker 5 (41:20):
But man, from an.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
NBA fans perspective, yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Good like you.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
It just the vibe is up here if the Knicks
get there, and I don't want to see that at all, right,
but at least like there's some new juice and wow,
and you're talking about teams that have never won a
championship before three out of the four, so it's like
we should have this this buzz. But it feels like
it exists with the Knicks somewhat. Okay, see t Wolves
(41:46):
a little bit there, and then the Pacers at the
pace there's just completely being slept on again after what
they've been able to put together.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
We'll see what happens though.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Good luck and all those plays, Marky Pucks we go
down to the final four. As far as the Stanley
is concerned, here, any plays for you tonight Panthers and
Kines Caines at home, and then tomorrow the big one
with the Edmonton and Dallas. That's gonna be a great series.
Both of them a gonna be great series. Both have
been some really good teams over the last few seasons.
Here anything for you in the NHL.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
I have I have Panthers plus seven to fifty to
win the Cup. Placed it at the beginning of the playoffs.
They were the team that I decided to ride with
this year. So I'm all panthered. UF you watched that
Watch that game seven U six' to? One did not
the sweat. It here we, are So i'm A panthers.
Fan i'll be watching that. Tonight i'll place A panthers
money line bets.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
That got the six to. ONE i watched that game
in the. Hospital it was three to nothing and it
was three.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
To, one And i'm, like all, right not dead, yet
and then The panthers scored. Again i'm, like all, right
that game's over and they've scored six to.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
One that's.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
FUNNY i didn't even know see the final. Score uh,
YEAH a lot's been going on around, here but that's all.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
Right we're. Back we're easing into. It great week of
shows coming your. Way shout Out.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Sam austrey And Sean bernard holding it down for all
things picks role talking out THINGS nba. Playoffs we Got
luke Car kenny was checking in doing a great job
With crossing.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Broad live at the Ball yard too as.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Well Uh phillies on the road In Colorado game two.
Speaker 5 (43:12):
Tonight nothing happening. There just enjoy the game back. Tomorrow
brand new daily ticket coming your. Way Mark Emmy.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Jr can be heard Every saturday from eleven to, one
a tough cover radio. Show he's In chicago holding it
down with his nine to. Five great to have You
mark on this beautiful morning here in The Delaware. Valley
safe travels and any final thoughts you want to get
off your chest.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Here it's a balley. Time it's it's as baaly. O'clock
i'll also TAKE. Vj but he's no No Conkin, upple
Get conkin uple get The confederacy out of my. FACE
i have a.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
LINE i like that he's a it's a reach, Right
like he's a good, player but it's you can't take
him that.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
High, YEAH i think he has absolutely no star equity
where ACE. Vj, Maliloch Trey. Johnson you can squint with
any of those four guys and, say, wow the upside
is something that really changes a. Franchise conkin upples upside is, like,
oh he could be a better Bogdan.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Bogdanovic can The sixers screwed this?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
Up absolutely Take conkin uple and they screwed it?
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Up they.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
WON'T i don't think they will. EITHER i don't think.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
They discussed in that that. Number.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
REALLY i would say he's the third guy at BEHIND
as AND vj and a lot of a lot a
lot Of sixers fans are out, there and it's not
just LIKE i would love to assign it to like
the right Wing sixers fans and who won a white,
Guy but it really hasn't been. That it's the nerds
Love Conkin. Upples SO I i think his upside is extremely,
(44:48):
limited AND i think his defense at six' five is
going to be. A problem he's too slow to guard
any guard, that matters and he's too short to guard
any wing.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
That, matters Yeah that's i'm not feeling that. At ALL
but i Am Feeling ace BAILEY and i Was. With
rutgers we'll see what happens Though again sixers are back in.
The conversation gotta love, it, all right enjoy, the games
good luck and all of. Those Plays Mark. Henry jr
can be found on socials give them. A follow check
Out The tough cover radio Show every saturday right here On.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
The gambler we'll.
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Talk To you Pooh spreads total and all the prop that's.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
In between It's. The gambler
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