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August 30, 2025 • 53 mins
Sean Brace and Sam Oshtry talk about the Phillies' continuing struggles at Citi Field as they're on the verge of getting swept again, College Football, defining Arch Manning heading into Texas vs Ohio State, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
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put it in the box. The that's have made it
too straight over the Phillies, Haunte Horse from third the
met's pour out of the dugout demo's waiting form between
first and second it comes to a shower of water
or sunflower seeds.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
How I grow up?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
U have maig Mets that jumping up and.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Down, sell up riding a six to five win over
Joan Duran and the Phillies. Unfortunately, that's how it sounded.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Currency of the New York Mets Radio netwek Good Afternoon Daily.
Take it with you here, Shaan Bray, Sam Austrey Year.
I gotta pick my daughter up. How about this? Got
a brand new kid? You know that, Sam, I didn't
know that things are going great. My daughter started kindergarten yesterday.
She's off on Friday, off on Friday, first week.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think school should not start before Labor Day.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
And if you're gonna give them off on Friday, then
you might as well do that. I thought it was
a different reason. Why, But I have to pick my
daughter up tomorrow from school. How do people do this?
How do people have jobs and pick their kids up
from school. It's the first time you're picking up from school.

(02:03):
My wife usually on till six. I hope my wife,
my wife's boss isn't listening. She's literally picking her up
at three thirty every day.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
She's your host to show from three to six. You're
probably not the one picking up from school.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I tell you right now.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
She's the breadwinner, and she's supposed to be working past
three thirty. I would imagine, like this is crazy. How
do how do you parents do this? How you pick
your pick up? I can't tell my kid to walk
home from school, she's five. Nanny, nanny is the answer.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, my.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
My mom is gonna go. No, I don't even trust
my mom to drive to the grocery store. I' love
her respective go pick up our kid. Well, that's where
we're at. So tomorrow I have to do the show
from the house. So I said, Sam, I need you
to come in on a Wednesday. We get a lot
to discuss. Of course, college football front and center for
us with the big Car. It actually worked.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Out because I'm heading to the US Open tomorrow night
without a show with you. I'm hender the US Opening
tomorrow night in New York. Very nice, first time ever
going to that event. Oh dude, per great thing. That's
an unbelievable deal by you. Way to work that into
the equation here and any idea. I've never been, always
wanted to go.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Have been watching the Open for years, decades on my
television USA network way back in the day, and always
looked intriguing to me. The only thing that was a
turnoff is the fact that you have to drive to
Queen's which is on the other side of the world.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Half the time, it feels.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Like, so do you have any idea who you're going
to be watching? The schedule's coming out slowly. It's been
trickling out today, so I'm pretty sure. I don't think
the time shot just yet, but I'm pretty sure Cinner
is going to be at the nightcap, and then potentially
Alcarez too, so we could have the two top guys,
not of course not playing each other, but I could
see both of them tomorrow, which would be the goal

(03:53):
because when you buy these tickets, so when you figure
out that you're going you don't know exactly. Yesterday I
didn't know exactly who was going to be playing. But
if it's one of the those two guys, I'm not
gonna complain because those are the two guys who I'd
want to see more than anyone else on the sleep.
All right, So we're having some issues with your with
your camera there, We'll try and figure that out, sort
that out. It's we're often running here. It's a smooth operation,
as always a daily ticket.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
As you just heard.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
We open up with the New York Mets taking out
the Phillies yet again last night, six to five.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And it's getting old. It's getting old.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
This Phillies team can't win on the road in New York,
which is just frustrating beyond belief.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
And now you are.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Looking at giving this Mets team which was basically on
life support as this this is this three game series started,
excuse me, and now they have taken two straight. When
it opened up, there were seven games out of course
you do the math. Now they could cut it down
to four if they get the victory versus Taiwan Walker,

(04:55):
which I fully do believe that the New York Mets
will win tonight.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
I'm with you, and it's at the point where it's
like it's a psychological thing. Correct, Where they've lost twenty
three of twenty nine at City Field.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
We're talking about a divisional rival, a team that knocked
you out of the playoffs last year, a team they're
probably going to see definitely will be in the playoffs,
but probably will see in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
You know, if you asked me that last week, I
was selling the idea that the Mets are going to
be out of the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I can't say that anymore.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
I'm not really concerned about the vision at this point,
and that's a whole other conversation. But I still think
the Phillies will find a way to when the division,
even if they end up getting swept. The problem is
right now that they just can't get over this mental
hurdle of beating the Mets in City Field. Now, if
they go into a playoff series, potential playoffs series where

(05:42):
they've just got swept in late August to this team
and everyone's talking about it, that's all everyone's gonna be
talking about. Where you can't beat this team on the road,
that's a real psychological hurdle to overcome, and I would
not be confident going into City Field. Of course, if
the Phillies are the one seed will have home field,
or one of the top seeds, we'll have home field.
But that's not something I would be comfortable going to

(06:03):
the City Field. Losing twenty three of twenty nine. That
that's absurd, Like this is team isn't better than you
right now? Last night was an inexcusable loss. This is
absurd right now? How the Phillies are struggling to win
on the road at City Field.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, and you look at what you're getting as far
as pitching is concerned. I'm not going to sit here
and tell you that. You know, Sanchez was on point,
but it's like if you delivered a little bit more.
They scored three runs in that game last night. You know,
it's felt like somewhat decent starting pitching. The strike zone
was a little tight. Wizarto wasn't a fan of it
by no means, but you held them, you know, in check.

(06:38):
I'm talking about the Mets bats, and it's there and
they lose a tight one. But the big picture for
me is exactly what we just said. Where This was
a team that was on life support and now you
have given them belief and here.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
They are again.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
The Division not trying to sell that at all, even
though there is four games against the Mets or between
the Mets and Phillies coming up well later in September.
At least there's sistan Bank Park, correct, so big difference.
Of course, they took two or three a little earlier
this year against the Mets at Citizens Bank Park, but
still it's a It's a talented lineup that's putting it together,

(07:14):
getting decent pitching right now. But all in all, it
comes down to what's happening in the mental for me
and the Fills are struggling.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
They need to see a victory.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
They got to see the ball go through the net,
as we talk about with Hoops, and the Mets right
now have this newfound belief and vibes that are coming
through at the best time possible as they're heading into September,
and it's just frustrating across the board. That was a
very winnable game, a game that I thought they were
going to find a way to win after that bait
or home run, but unfortunately they call up short six

(07:45):
to five. As I said though back at it, no
rest for the wicked Yankees.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Didn't take the day off.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Good grief up eleven nothing right now as we speak,
but Taiwan Walker going up against the brand new Mets pitcher,
and the odds right now minus one sixty one for
the Mets at home favored, which is just crazy, plus
one thirty two for Taywan Walker.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
As I said, I like the Mets to win today. Yeah,
I mean Nolan McLean obviously on the mound.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
He hasn't played a ton two starts, yeah, two starts,
but he's only allowed six hits in those first two starts,
so he's been really good. And he's of course their
number three prospect for the Mets, so he's been really
good in his two starts, but obviously limited starts. So
there is opportunity for the Phillies hitters to maybe get
this guy in a little bit out out of his

(08:30):
groove and rack up some hits. But at the same time,
you got Walker on the mound, so you're looking at
a high scoring game if the Phillies are gonna win,
because we're we're gonna give it. We're gonna allow a
lot of runs and it's gonna be a high scoring game,
but the Phillies need to walk away with a win here. Like,
I'm not gonna say it's a must win game because
of who's on the mound for the Phillies and just
and based on how yesterday went and how Monday went.

(08:52):
But at this point, it's like you have to walk
away with a win for your psyche, for your mental advantage.
That when when you're gonna play this team again. So
I'm not confident at all right now, but this is
a pretty important game tonight.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yes, if I'm on the postgame show with Barkan and
Ricky Bowen company, I'm not saying that this division is
now up for grabs. I still feel like the Phillies
will find their footing and get it going.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
They have a tough schedule, Braves obviously coming to Says
to make Park over Labor Day weekends, Dodgers coming up
a series against them, so it's a tough schedule. It's
not like the division's gonna be cake if the Mets
will walk away with this suite, but they do have
a substantial lead, and of course they're one of the
best teams in the NL, so I wouldn't be worried.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'd be more worried about the fact that they can't
be the Mets on the road.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
But it's not like a foregone conclusion of the Phillies
are gonna win this series or win this division.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Let's pull the odds, let's take a look at that.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
What do you say as far as that is concerned,
DraftKings Sports Book, Where we're at right now, and to
win the National League East, if you had to put
a number on it, Oh yeah, See, the Phillies are
monster favorites.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Still.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm sure that number was significantly more two days ago.
But minus seven fifty the Mets to win the division
plus five hundred possible. No am I putting any money
on the Mets to win. Hell no, Am I gonna
put money on the Phillies at minus seven to fifty?
Hell no as well. But I do believe that the
Phillies will find a way. Yes, you know, it's just
funny how it works.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Though.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I gotta be fully transparent because after that game one loss,
I said, everybody, relax, it's one loss. Sanchez was on
the mound. You thought you had an opportunity. They didn't
go up there and get a victory. Oh well, you
burn the tape, you move on game two. Now it's
two straight and it's just a different feeling in my stomach.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So should I be a.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Little calm, a little bit more calmer than what I
am giving off right now, possibly because you know, at
the end of the day, it's still only two games,
but there is something going on. As you said, twenty
three to twenty nine, that's just absurd, and that's the
best word, the best way to put it.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
It was also a game of the Phillies should have
won last night, right, Like five of the Mets's six
runs came in that fifth inning, which was a disastrous
fifth inning. Of course, Lozardo gets tossed where he got
taken out of the game and then gets tossed because
he was pissed, and he was he had a rightful
case to be pissed.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I mean, that was an absurd call.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
How they let Soto when he call a time out
in that situation where he was already winded up.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, that was an absurd call. So it was
already to right to be pissed.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
But of course that fifth inning just gets ugly, and
then Bader hits the home run in the eighth to
tie it at five, and you feel pretty confident with Alvarado,
who that's a different conversation whether he should or should
not have been in the game, given he won't be
able to play in the postseason, but he had a
great inning.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
And then Duran just comes in.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Obviously it's an ugly ninth and the Mets walk it off.
But that's a game that I thought the Phillies were
going to and especially when they got off to that
two zero lead, given how the night before went where
they also got off to.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
A lead and gave it up.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, well it's exciting with we're getting some baseball right now.
That is a little bit more front and center when
I think it was kind of fading a little bit.
Although it's the Mets and Phillies right like, that's gonna
grab your attention no matter what. Uh, And I'll tell
you on Monday, I was saying to Luke Arcaney, this
is the altar time to put the foot on the throat,
regain that confidence going on the road and extend this

(12:06):
division lead somewhere to nine, possibly ten if you swept them.
And it's gone completely the other way. So here we
are right now again coming up Taiwan Walker. We'll talk
more about that game. We'll get into a little bit
more of the props. Kobe Marshall is going to join
us at four o'clock. We'll even dive in deeper with him.
He's going to tell you straight up that the Phillies

(12:26):
struggle to score runs on the road, and he will
always approach it like that.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
I think he's going to keep it plane and simple.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I'd like to dive a little bit deeper into those numbers,
and I'm sure he has them, because that's definitely a
talking point for him. He's been saying it for a
couple of weeks. To me, we did that show out
in Chicago, you were on the board. That was as
big emphasis as the Phillies need to find ways to
score runs on the road. I'm sure a lot of
teams struggle in that category, but it does seem like
it's a little bit more drastic for the Phillies, maybe

(12:54):
because I pay attention more.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Who knows they need to score runs tonight?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Though, damn it with Taiwan on the mound, the other
five hund on the road this season, so I mean,
it's not all full but it's not good.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
It's not good.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
It's not for a team with World Series aspirations, you
would expect them to be better. But the thing is
that where it's at City Field is the biggest problem.
And Kolby's right that it's all it's been on the
road all season, But at Cities Field is where it's
been so bad, where you've lost twenty three of twenty nine,
which includes last year's postseason, and that's where it's It's like,
this team has to figure it out if they are

(13:26):
going to accomplish and achieve their ultimate goal of winning
World Series. Because they're gonna play the Mets. I mean,
I just know they are. It's gonna be it's gonna
be destiny. They're they're gonna play the Mets and they're
gonna have to beat them in New York. So it's
they gotta figure it out now or never.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Are we there right now?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Like if this if they were to play a playoff
series next week, would we go into a worried if
it was against the Mets?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Correct? I don't think anybody in the city would be confident.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
In that series. Just the games at City City, Well,
you gotta win on the road to win a series.
Not one hundred percent can take care of everything at home,
but like more likely and not, you gotta win on
the road to win a series. And also based how
last year went, and also depends on how the Mets
finished the season.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I mean that they've won four of their last five.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
I believe before that they were on a fit five
and sixteen stretch, so the Mets were struggling. It depends
how they finish out this next month. But just based
on the mental advantage, I think Mets fans would be
super confident. Phillies fans would be nervous if those two
teams matched up in the playoff series next week, just
because of how much the Phillies have struggled to win
at City Field, and based on how last year's season ended,
with the Mets obviously getting a postseason victory over the Phillies.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
All right, we'll get your thoughts on that one at Fox.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
PHL Gambler, if this series was to start tomorrow or
next week, are you going into it thinking that the
Phillies are in trouble if they had to play the
Mets in a playoff series. Get involved in the conversation
at Fox Pho Gambler having some fun today, of course,
trying to put a smile on.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Your face with what we witnessed last night.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Also in the negative department. Let me ask you this,
and it's just unfortunate because this is.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
The reality of where where we're at.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Zach Wheeler gets hurt, Zach Wheeler is out for the season,
Zach Wheeler's out for six to eight months.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
He was the horse, he was the guy, he was
the number one.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
And you know, I don't even know what it's like,
but I would assume when you know that Zach Wheeler's
day is coming.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Up, you're like, yeah, we're gonna win that game. Yep,
you know. And it registers.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
So we often talk about we bring up the twenty
seventeen deal with Nick Foles and that foot and the
Eagles comparison, and that's one thing. It's it's a game
a week, it was a playoff.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Just say something about that, Well, it was a hang out.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'll set it up and you could take it to
now you're all right, because I want to set it
up for you because I think it's two different worlds.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
It is.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
It's two different games, completely different, all right, different stratospheres.
I kind of agree with it, But do you think
that this is something that is is affecting the team
right now and we'll continue to do so. The fact
that Zach Wheeler is no longer in his team did
they have a little bit of a bump.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Of course, that was.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
The emotional lift where gal the nights we're bringing everybody together,
we're gonna win one for Zach. Now that emotion is
worn off again, it's it's it's just the talking point.
I'm not trying to say that this is happening, because
for my money, it's baseball. You're playing one sixty two.
You're either gonna be the better team that night or
you're not. And there's so many things that go into it.

(16:20):
And the two games that we watched, the first one
was a blowout, so throw that out. And then yesterday,
I just think the Mets were the better team. They
got hot, they hit with runners in scoring position. The
Phillies are struggling in that category, and they're the home team.
They got the last step. Bet they made the most
of it and they're going home winners. But do you
think this is something that could could carry over into
September From what we just had, what happened up here

(16:43):
at Cityfield. If even if they win tonight, they're gonna
lose the series no matter what, and then could could
continue to carry over in play in the September, which
is the most important part of the season.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
It's just wishful thinking to assume that every time a
star player goes down, that's something like the Philadelphia Eagles
twenty seven team twenty eighteen run is going to take place.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
It's like the first star player that got hurt, So
give me a star player that's got hurt and the
team has well, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
What happens when a star player gets hurt. The teams lose.
But that's what happens. You can't just.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
Say that the Philadelphia Eagles plast seventeen run is gonna
happen every time. Usually your star player goes down, your
quarterback goes down, your number one pitcher goes down, you're
not gonna accomplish your ultimate cool.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That is such a rare, unique situation.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
The Philadelphia Egles went on, and you can't just every
time in this city now it's someone goes down. So
the Philadelphia Eagles did in twenty seventeen. They rided behind
Nick Foles. There was a rallying cry. There's no quarterback
in the world that could have played a better Super
Bowl than Nick Foles, and that includes the best quarterback
of all time who was up against in Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It wasn't just a rallying cry.

Speaker 5 (17:41):
It's the fact that their backup somehow became Lord and
Savior God himself in the Super Bowl because Nick Foles.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Was that great.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
That doesn't happen, like, not just rarely, almost ever, It
just doesn't happen. Your best player goes down, your season's
going to end disappointing. It's gonna be a disappointing end
of the season. So the fact that everyone's trying to
use the Eagles and I get it, it's wistful thinking.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
It's being optimistic.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Not to be a Debbie Downer here, But the reality
is that doesn't usually happen. When your best player goes down,
your pitcher goes down, your quarterback goes down, usually your
season ends in disappointment.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
It doesn't. It's not like a rallying cry.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
So I just I don't really agree with everyone saying,
oh the Eagles did in twenty seventeen. This could be
the rallying cry the Phillies need, and we can rally
around Zach Wheeler here or rally around Zack Wheeler's injury,
and Christopher Sanchez can step in as the number one guy.
I just it's hard to imagine. And Christopher Sanchez is awesome.
Didn't have his best stuff Monday night, but he is
an awesome pitcher. But Zack Wheeler wasn't just a great pitcher.

(18:39):
He was an awesome pitcher in the playoffs like that.
He trusted in the playoffs in a way that Nola's
been great. But he hasn't always been great in the playoffs.
He's had some struggles in the playoffs. Zack Wheeler has not.
He has been a guy where you hand him the
ball in the postseason, you know you are getting seven
great innings. At least seven great innings from Zach Wheeler.
We don't I think trick Christopher Sanchez can be that,

(19:00):
but he hasn't shown that consistently enough to necessarily believe
in him entering the postseason. So this idea that it's
going to be a rallying cry and the vibes are
gonna be high come postseason. Come the postseason, around Zach
Wheeler's injury. It's just probably bys.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
If we're being honest, it's it's it's gonna go the
other way, is what I would say. The ewing theory
is something that Bill Simmons created.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, I've brought that up before. I've never heard that before.
You've never heard.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I'm not I'm not a Bill Simmons guy. The Ewing
thiry theory that did? You just did that just pop
in your head? No, that doesn't apply the postseason? All right,
real Bill Simmons fans. No, sorry, so no, I've never
I'm not a Bill Simmons fan. So to outline the
so I googled, I googled team not.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Check GBT or chept whatever. I googled it. Yeah, because
you never know what's right and what's wrong.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
And I just asked players that got hurt and are
star players that got hurt and teams went on to
have success that season, and it referenced twenty seventeen Eagles
right at the top. Two thousand and eight is an
interesting deal because Brady does go down, Matt Cassel leads
the team to an eleven and five record, but they
did not win the Super Bowl that year.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
It also brought up to twenty nineteen Warriors.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Where Kevin Durant got hurt, but they didn't win the finally,
and these are teams that they went final.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
These are teams that fell short. But Kevin Durank got
hurt in the finals.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Well, he missed a bunch of a stretch of that
playoffs and he came back for the finals. He went
and got hurt, got her in the playoffs, and then
got hurt in the finals.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, so the ewing theory though, what is the ewing?
Ewing theory on Bill Simmons folks over here?

Speaker 5 (20:31):
It really does apply to betting on basketball and sometimes
other sports too, But the ewing theory is when a
store player is injured. It's also Doc Rivers just said
it too time and time again. We don't like to
invoke his name and Sims probably, but he's there. They
are good friends. But he's categorized a little differently. But

(20:51):
essentially what it is is when a star player goes down,
the other team is going to be or when the
star player goes down, the other team is going to
take their foot off the break.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
They're gonna be more relaxed.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
So that's why Doc Rivers has always said that he'd
rather play a team with their star player and their
best player than without them, because your team is naturally
is gonna be relaxed. Oh their best players out, We're
probably gonna have an easy night. It's it's gonna be
an easier win for us. And that doesn't end up
being the case because that team will play even harder
and your team plays maybe more relaxed, and the team
without the star player ultimately ends up winning. So that's

(21:25):
why Doc Rivers always said he'd rather play a team
with their star player than without, which is pretty much
what the Ewing theory is.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
But was was Patrick Ewing in ninety nine? Was he
like thirty eight? Like? Come on, man, he was old
as as wasn't that old of that game?

Speaker 4 (21:39):
This was in Georgetown in the early eighties.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
That's when the Knicks one to the finals in ninety nine. Yeah,
and he was the best player on that team.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
But that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
I will say that only applies to the regular season
because in the postseason, everyone's up like it's the postseason.
Everyone is getting ready and getting up for this game.
It's not some random regular season game. So it doesn't
really apply the postseason, because it doesn't matter who's on
the court or who's on the field, everyone's going to
get up and be ready for a postseason game. It
really only applies to random regular season basketball or football

(22:11):
or baseball games.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
All right, Daily Ticket rolling on here, Sam Ostri hanging
out from the score.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
He had a nice ride up.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I saw you tweeting it earlier this week and getting
all people fired up with Kevin Durant and you ranked
all the draft picks in there.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
But not like Kevin Durant over Bill Russell. Now, yeah,
that's a funny one. So we'll have some fun.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
We will mix in as some hoops some way, somehow
on this show, as we often do when Sam is
in studio, But the focus for us is going to
be on all things college football. We got ourselves a
big card tomorrow and Friday, even bigger on Saturday, Sunday
and Monday. For right now, I want to bring up
Arch Manning and I want to get your take on

(22:54):
Arch Manning because I've heard a couple different ways that
people are looking at him right now. When I think
there are some valid criticisms or critiques, maybe not criticisms,
but critiques, I do believe that there are people having
hot takes.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
I think that Arch is the guy right now.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
And somebody dug up something on ESPN where they said, hey,
look he is on the Temptebos stratosphere as far as
Google searches and all that, like this is a hot
topic and it's obvious we've been talking about Arch since
he was twelve, thirteen, forteen. Like I remember those videos
a lot like Zion when on the Instagram, you know,

(23:33):
and all of a sudden you're seeing Arch just tossed
the ball fifty yards down the field when he was
fifteen years old in those green jerseys.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I think they were dressed up like LSU colors if
I'm not mistaken. It was really cool to see. And
then we're paying attention.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
We know his bloodline, we know that he was heavily
you know, coveted to go to whether it's old miss
They put Manning's name in the end zone when Eli
Mannings jersey went up, and of course they were trying
to get him to go there.

Speaker 5 (23:59):
He ends up going to Texas and we've seen did
you read this story that recently came out about Arch?
Manning started to cut you off, but this is too good.
So the story recently came out from Seth Wickersham in
his new book They's released and called Quarterback Got great
stories about Arch Manning. It was about the recruitment of
arch Manning. Oh god, and so obviously Alabama was in
the mix. Wick of Sham, get out of there. He's

(24:20):
the best. He's the one of the best sports writers
of this generation. Maybe the best actually sportswriter of this generation. Yeah,
he's always like the deep dive decades and decades. He's
good at what he does, all right, So go on,
how does he have this story? So this is about
the recruitment of Arch Manning, and so Texas and Alabama
of course are both in the mix. Alabama consistently kept

(24:43):
calling and I want to get the wording right, but
Alabama consistently kept calling arch Manning to try to recruit him.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
There was concerns about Nick Saban's potential retirement, which is
why the Mannings didn't necessarily love for arch Manning to
go there. But in one of the calls, the af
OF coordinator for Alabama was talking smack about Texas and
something that he said. He was like, oh, I love
Steve Sarkisian.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
He's gonna be. He's gonna be, he will be a
great coach.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Well, whatever you decide to do, hopefully he stays sober,
is what he said. That's what the Alabama offensive coordinator
said to arch Manning, and apparently arch Maning's high school
coach called him after the meeting, was like, that was
incredibly inappropriate. Why did you just say that? Because, of
course Steve Sarkisan of course suffered from alcoholism, which almost
ended his coaching career. Covered from it now, But he

(25:29):
took a shot. He took a shot. I hope so
as he took a shot at Steve Sarkisian's so sober,
sobriety and his old disease of alcoholism is in everything
on the table though.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I was talking about with some people.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
It's like people talk a lot of trash about other teams,
coaches and programs when they're trying to recruit guys.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
So that's a little far of the lot, maybe maybe
a little over the line to a point.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
But let me ask you this.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
So in that phone call, did Art say that he
was going to visit Texas?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I missed that, Like, how did Texas come up? Do
you remember, I think they were just.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Discussing about his how his recruitment spin, who he's visited,
who he's talking to, all that.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Probably there were some whispers that he liked Texas because
I think Alabama was very much in the mix. People
knew Texas was in the mix.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
So yeah, it was between those those two and a
couple other schools, and so they got word of that,
and then they tried to trash talk Alabama and of course,
or excuse me, trash talk Texas, and of course they're.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Head coach and his old disease where he was a drinker.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I think everything is on the table at that point
in time, especially for a guy like Arch. Now you
have to realize that that could rub him the wrong way.
Probably that's probably not a kid that I would say
that to, right, Like I might use that with somebody else,
but Arch Manning, No, I would not say that period.
But you get me in the mud where I'm trying
to get a recruit which could ultimately change the world

(26:52):
that you exist in, especially at Alabama. Yeah, I'd say
everything is on the table. Now back to the player, though,
let me ask you about Arch because we know the
world is an oyster it's it's his, it's there for
the taking. He could very well be the overall number
one pick come next April. And I don't know, Like
I think there are ways that he could play himself

(27:13):
out of it, out of it, but I think this
kid is the.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Real deal up here more than anything.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
We know what the skills are, the athleticism, he makes
plays with his feet and oh, by the way, he's
playing for Texas, a team that has been on the
rise every single year. Credit to coach Sark. I'm not
a Coach Sark guy. I often referenced that video where
he chewed that kid out that was just trying to
do his job, which I thought was way out of line,
and he never heard him apologize about it. And that's

(27:39):
that sort of stuff bothered him. But whatever he's doing,
he's doing well in Texas. Had a great season last year.
Big game against Ohio State coming up here on Saturday,
Arch Manning, how are you defining him right here heading
into that game? Do you are you one of these
guys that say he's going to light it up this season?
Lock stock and Barrel the number one overall pick. No

(28:00):
if ads buds about it? You love what you've seen
so far or are you up in the air do
you need to see more about Arch? When I ask
you about Arch Manning heading into this weekend, what do
you say.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
I'm leaning more towards he's going to be that great
of a quarterback and a generational prospect when he decides
to leave college, whether that's after this season or maybe
after another season. But at the same time, how could
any of us sit here and go we know exactly
who he's going to be when he only got a
few reps against Georgia and that was the only meaningful
college football game he's ever played in was last year

(28:33):
against Georgia, we got a few reps. The other teams
he played was like Louisiana State and just some not
great teams. Who else did he play against last year
is ULM ME and UTSA, So it was not great
teams that he played last year, So there weren't there's
not a lot of reason to be like, Okay, he's
going to be this unbelievable prospect based on the eyes.

(28:54):
But what everyone's saying, and people that I trust are saying,
is that he is going to be a generational quarterback.
So what can I do other than believe in him
and believe in that. And this isn't just like media
heads hyping him up and then this is like a
Tim Teba rise, He's earned it.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But this is also people who've.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Seen him at camps, like like pro scouts, like the
Of course the Mannings aren't going to say anything bad
about their nephew, but like they're talking their nephews up
Eli Payton Manning saying like, this guy is better than
we were at his age.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
We're talking about two.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Maybe one definitely Hall of Fame quarterback, maybe one day
another Hall of Fame quarterback.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I know he had that bet.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
That's a sore subject, but we talked about Super Bowl
champion quarterbacks and they're saying he's better than they were
at his age.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Pause, But like what quarterbacks aren't better these days?

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I feel like everything is so elevated from their camps
to three sixty five, right, and a kid like Arch Manning, Yeah,
like no, ifans much about he's going to be better
than Peyton and Eli at the high school level, maybe
at the freshman football level, or at the freshman at
college level. Maybe after it's all said and done, we

(30:05):
know the careers that Peyton and Eli had at both universities.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Maybe that's a different conversation. We'll see.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
But I just look at when you say, like, have
we seen enough from him? I think we know what
his athleticism is, right, he makes a ton of plays.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
With his legs.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
We know that what he's capable of with that roster.
I don't think it's that. And I don't think you're
saying this, but I don't think it's that far fetched
for me to sit here and say I expect him to.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Light it up this year. You do, or yeah I do?
I do?

Speaker 4 (30:36):
I agree with you. Maybe not Saturday, though, I think
Saturday too. You got Texas over House, got Texas over
High State. I'm going to Ohio State. Yeah, I'm gonna
take the home team. A lot of juice in that building.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
A lot of juice there will be, but a lot
of juice when they raise that banner too.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Can it translates to the actual game, We'll see.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Honestly, to me, it's the coordinator thing with Texas and
Ohio State because Texas has continuity on their coaching staff
with Steve Sarcazi and still calling players both their coordinators.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Return State lost both their coordinators.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
So I think that's a pretty pretty massive loss when
you lose to your coordinators like that, and your defensive
play curler and Matt Patricia, who we know very well
in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Sure, he's gonna be calling the defense.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
It's just a different vibe and that continuity on the
coaching staff is really going to show up in Game one.
So when it's such a toss up like this, two
of the best teams in the country, that's why I'm
giving Texas the edge and why I'm actually gonna bet
Texas on that. But back to the arch Manning point, Yeah, yeah,
I like he It's not just his arm strength, his athleticism,
we know all that, Like that's obvious that that he's got.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
He's that good at that level. It's like, do you
love football that much?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
I think a lot of times, if you're going to
be a great quarterback, it's how much do you love
the game?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
And how much do you study it? And how do
you approach the game.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
And by all accounts, he puts in every ounce of
work you possibly could.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
You have to know what he's doing.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Peyton was known for more than anything preparation, Like he
knew every Defensivetimore him exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yes, with the red all over it.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
He knew every defense is gonna be called against him
at all moments, and that was all the preparation, all
the film study he put in. Arch Manning does the
same thing like arch Manning approaches the game the same way.
So when you're putting in that type of work, it's
hard to bet against the kid because the athleticisms there,
the arm town's there, the processing ability is there. He's
gonna make some mistakes early in his college career, don't
get me wrong, earlier in his first season starting, He's

(32:30):
still going to be one of the best quarterbacks in
the country and one of the top picks, probably the
top pick of the draft whenever he decides to Claire,
and anything short of that would be a massive disappointment.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
So I'm buying into the hype. Yeah, I'm there too
as well. I don't see much that is going to
slow him down, just because of what Sark has been
able to build. The athleticism. Oh, by the way, the
fact that if he ever does struggle, a phone call away
as Peyton phone call away, his uncle Eli a phone
call away is Archie too, which knows a thing or
two about college football.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
It is intriguing though.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
It is the big storyline this week in Ohio State
and Texas And of course Arch Manning, are you buying in?
What is your read on Arch right now? Do you
think this kid is a lot to be the overall
number one pick?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I do.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I think that he is going to be in the
conversation for the Heisman Trophy, we'll see. I also think
that Jeremiah Smith is going to light it up this year.
So Jeremiah Smith has been my pick. But get involved
in the conversation. Arch Manning at Fox pH O Game
would love to hear your thoughts up there on social.
Aaron Dolan pops up on this TV screen about this
time every day now. Aaron Dolan is living the life.

(33:39):
And I'm very very cautious to say this because I
know we're all in the same world when I bring
this up.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
It's football. See, it is football season. It's football season.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So when football season starts, you literally have to be
working Monday through Sunday, whatever it is. But I have
noticed that Aaron Dolan when she pops up on my
TV screen, also known as a Philly fan, also apparently
dating Alec Bohm. So I'll love and respect she has
been doing this show from her bedroom, from a room

(34:12):
it looks like her.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Bedroom, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I guess could be you know, it could be a
side room, could be the guest bedroom.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Sir Alecbahumare's plenty of rooms in his house. I'm just like,
does she ever make the trip? Did they ever say
come on up to Bristol?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
You know, I see my guy Joe Fortenbaugh, He's always
schlepping it up to Connecticut back to New York at studio.
But Aaron Dolan gets to do it from the comfort
of her own home. I'm just curious how that works. Yeah,
not everyone's treated equally. Yeah, that's the way the world works.
That's not just this business, that's every business. But I
will say there's no questions will.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Be in studio for like ESPN Sunday Countdown, She'll have
to be there for those big studio shows. But for
ESPN BET Live on a three PM on a weekday,
she can probably run it from back here.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
She has to go to actually probably in the city
field right now. No, that's the same room. I think
she's probably down the shore. That's Fair. Yeah, she's from
down the shore.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Is she from from from from where'd you go to
high school? Do you know that?

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I don't know that information. But she's from from down
the shore.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I thought she was from Philly.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
No.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
I mean when you're down, when you're from the shore,
you say like South Jersey, so you say Philly.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
But she's done.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
She came and we started this radio station in like
twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, whatever it was, and we were
doing pregame shows.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Who you just saw that that was incredible. We did
pregame shows from Exfinity Live Inside Inside Inside.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
So I used to DJ and then I would go
host with David Acres. I would do an hour with Acres.
I would DJ and then go do an hour on
air with Acres. And we did that from the Victory
Beer Hall, and then we also did it later that
season where the bull riding goes on the PBR or
whatever it is extinit Yeah, And so she comes in

(35:54):
as we're leaving, and it might have been like her
first time.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Like she's young, right, I don't know how young she is.
She's good what she does.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Probably thirty, she's a little older than you, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Anyways, she came.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
In and you would have thought, like this is the
first time that she was ever outside at like a
venue like this, and there is a lot of people,
no doubt, but like she was just like wow, this
is incredible. It's like, hey, how you doing? Because she
was doing she was doing traffic. I want to say
on like phl or something like that. And now she's
a household name given out winners. If you remember last year,

(36:36):
apparently her record, she was one of the greatest sports
gamblers ESPN has ever put out there.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Good luck, that's all. I was wrong about her hometown.
She went to Cardinal O'Hara. Yeah, so I guess she's.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Summers in the Jersey Shore. Yeah. Yeah, some people are
from there. She's a Philly girl. Yeah, philly Ish. Twenty
nine too, she's twenty nine hitting that thirty boom.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
Let's find out he's younger than her.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
No, twenty nine too. Oh just turns this month like
Travis and Taylor Swift all the same age.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
How about that? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Gotta love it all right, Taily take it rolling on?
How good is arch Manning? That's the question that fox pH.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I guessed that one.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Like Travis and Taylor Swift thirty five thirty five, twenty
nine nine.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I didn't realize they both thirty five thirty five. Good
for them, Yeah, love wins. Are you a Taylor Swift guy?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
I can be some good songs. I don't understand the
cold following, but good for them. Good for her, Yeah,
and I don't really care. Honestly, she is in my opinion,
she's earned every bit of it. Yeah, she's good, but
it is crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I saw people on my timeline cooking making like brownies
for her last night.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I saw teaching conversation. I saw people popping bottles of
champagne for hers.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I saw it, but it's an interesting conversation. It's like
whoa because I saw a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Of people do woah too.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Now, Like I grew up, I tell you I was
a diehard jay Z fan. I am right now to
this day, a die hard, grateful dead fan.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
So like, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Had my days with Jerry, but not so much with
Jerry but Bob Weir and like, I don't like a
celebrity the roots.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
It's a die our roots fan. Like if Black Thought was.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Getting married, I'm not cracking a bottle of champagne. Well,
we'd all love and respect it to re here's my
defense of those people, and I used to be the
ones to trash them.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
But like that's their sports.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Like we do that when the Eagles when the Super Bowl,
we react like that when the Eagles when the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, that's their sports.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
It's a little weird because like I would never do
that for like someone's personal life, someone's personal life, I
didn't know.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I do it for like a team that I root for,
But it's their sports, Like that's their sports.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Taylor Swift's life is like how we approach our Eagles fandom.
So it's like when a huge moment happens for her,
they're going crazy. It's like when a huge moment happens
with the Eagles, we go crazy. It is different because
the personal life and all that. But that's my defense
of that. Because a lot of people were trashing less
people on the timeline yesterday. Well everybody trashes everything. Yeah,
that's true, but that's fine. You could do whatever. People

(39:11):
crying when someone else got married or got engaged and
they don't even know people were really on.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Those people's people's tale. All right, let's throw that out
there to the people.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
How did you celebrate Travis and Taylor getting engaged yesterday?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
At Fox PHL?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Gabler At Fox PHL, Gabler get involved in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
How are you viewing Arch Manning?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
And how did you celebrate Travis and Taylor getting hitched yesterday? Oh?
The breakdown the supruder films of the podcast, you know,
Oh my goodness, to somebody looked at footage at practice
that day that he supposedly got engaged.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
How do people know all these details? It's insane to me.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
All right, Taily Ticket rolling on Sam Ostra, hanging with
Uskobe Marsha is going to join the party, coming up
at four o'clock.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Don't go in here more after this.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
We don't just watch college football, we live it.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
How did they stand? Look at him?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Gold?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Join us for the stories, the scores and the Saturday match.
It's the Gambler, Dell, take.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
It with you here, Sam, Austrey Chanbras.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Colby Marshall is going to join the party coming up
at four o'clock. And I'm excited to have Colby on
Sam because he is a college football officionado as well
as Major League baseball. Nobody does baseball like Colby he'll
be joining us AAH from Chicago. He's got to show
his own show coming up immediately following his hit, but

(40:41):
he's gonna be hopping on the station. We're gonna get
him involved a lot more. Of course with playoff baseball,
you know, front and center. But bottom line is college
football is here and we are ready to roll the
big conversational piece that we started with today based off
of what's taking place on Saturday at noon.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Where you watch the game.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
I'll be down the shore, so probably either at my
buddy's house or shore bar one or the other. Man.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
I'd love to be belly up at a bar for
Labor Day week last week down the shore. Oh man,
how was your summer at the shore? It's good, it
was good. Not the best summer I've ever had down
the shore. I've had better.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
Do you feel like they're getting worse and worse? Ye,
you're getting older and this was the year. It's like,
I'm probably done. I'm probably not for good, but I don't.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Think i'll ever go as I don't want to say horrid,
but I won't go out as much as I have
this summer.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think this summer was the end.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I felt it are we pouring one out for Sam's
pouring out this weekend. I mean, look, I'll always be
I'll always be a Jersey Shore guy. Doesn't matter if
I'm living across the country, I'll always be a Jersey
Shore guy. But I kind of felt it this year
that it was like this, this, I'm getting too old
for this. It happens, It happens out of nowhere. It's unfortunate. Yeah,
it's called life. We all get old.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
And it was a good summer, don't get me wrong.
Always is.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah. I wish I could have been down there a
little bit more, but that's what two kids will do
to you as well.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
All right. So we do have a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
As I said, we opened up the show talking about
so many different topics. That first segment we hit on
Aaron Dolan live from her room, Arch Manning, Sark being
a drunk, Peyton Eli recruiting, of course, major League Baseball
with the Phillies losing again, a lot to chew on,
and how did you celebrate Travis and Taylor getting engaged?

(42:30):
But the question that I have for everybody right now
is Arch Manning. First of all, let's fire up DraftKings
Sportsbook and take a look at the numbers that game
was shifting to where I thought that Texas could potentially
be favored heading into this game.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I did.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
I thought that we were going to see some more
movement and that Texas would be favored heading into this game.
On Saturday, DraftKings changed up their way on the laptop
here interesting their layout, you know it is. They're constantly
updating stuff and changing things. So teached her own, but
that was it's thrown me off a little bit. It's

(43:05):
a little bit wider in what it normally is. Anyways, Saturday,
I did believe that Texas would be going off, but
there was a chance that Texas are gonna be going
off as the favorite. It's not looking like that anymore.
We're still holding steady. Actually, I lied to you. Back
down to a point and a half. Where does this
game go off on Saturday? In your mind, it's really
been on the move. Yesterday afternoon it went back up
to two and a half. Yeaht and now it's back

(43:26):
to one and a half.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
It's been It probably lands at one and a half
by kickoff.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Really right now, maybe I think a lot of people,
a lot more people are on Texas.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
They are They are? They absolutely are.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
But are you feeling nervous about your play because it's
now a public play.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
A little bit? But I don't get I tried to
got swayed by the public.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Why are you on Texas over Ohio State at home
with the best player on the field. The two best
players are on Ohio State Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
That's true. There's two reasons, and both these teams. It's
so hard.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I mean, it's a coin flip coin flip game when
you have two of the best teams in the country
and you have two teams that are really evenly matched.
They both lost a lot last year to the NFL,
but they're both really evenly matched teams. But there's two reasons,
arch Manning and Julian saying both have not been in
this spot.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Who do you trust more?

Speaker 5 (44:14):
Who's a guy who's dealt with pressure and expectation and
these type of environments his entire life because of his
last name, and that's arch Manning. I trust arch Manning
more than I do. Really love Julian's saying calling in
even in a road matchup going into Week one.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
And the second reason is why I outlined.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
Earlier, and Beef just gave me some props on Twitter
for a shout out. Beef was the coordinators and the
coaching continuity of Texas where Steve Sarkizy and his back
calling plays, both their coordinators are back.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
The Ohio State lost two coordinators. Talk about that and
wide receiver coaches calling the plays that offense.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Yeah, but he was Chip Kelly last year and that
guy got the Chip Kelly last year. Still there, but
it's still different, and whoever's called the plays is still different.
And the defensive coordinator is Matt Patrician. I understand, but
you know we love Matt Patrick here, not necessarily Mattbautricia
at the professional versus the college level college and what
twenty years correct, So it's just different, Like it's different,

(45:09):
coaching continuity matters when you're looking for such a small edge.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
I would give it to Texas for those reasons. And
it's like Ryan Day's an awesome coach shore, but there
is the National Championship a hangover aspect to even when
you're at home, you're hanging a banner, you're doing all
those pregame celebrations, they're worried about Dave portnoyin Fox Big
New Kickoff. Everything is just telling me, everything is telling me,
just Texas is gonna win this bowl game.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
It really is something weird.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
But I kind of respect Ohio State with the rivalry pettiness,
Like I but you can't do that, and you've been
getting killed like you've been in such a one signed
robbery right now. They just want a national champions Okay,
but that doesn't matter for the rivalry.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Michigan's won four or five street.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
It doesn't matter for the rivalry that they won a
national championship because Michigan won the year before.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
So like it's like, okay, yeah you won, we won
the year before. Let's go head to head. We've won
four straight over you guys. And last year was the
year when it was just completely inexcuseable.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
And then you start a fight after they flat a
plant their flag on your home field. You should show
win the ballgame, like you show guts on the football field.
Whin the ballgame cares they have the right to plant
that flag.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yes, the.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
Class you like the pettiness, We love robberies in college football.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
So it's some class.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
You just got your your you got beaten down on
the football field when you were a massive favorite against
the Michigan team that was having an awful year.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
You plan a flag. We're fighting. We're fighting, but I
already beat you in the fight.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
I beat you in the fight and you're on the ground,
I can plant that flag and I.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Will plan, well, we are going to fight. If you
plant flags at midfield. It's not like the game. It was.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
You lost the fight and we just took over your house.
We're gonna plant that flag. They had every right to
do that. I hate sticking up for a house state.
I really do. I really do, But.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I kind of it's a new world.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
And you know what, Fox, welcome to it because you
wanted Barstool, you wanted Portnoy, and now you get it.
And apparently Ohio State says, you know what, we're not
allowing Barstool to be live because of everything that Portannoy
brings to the table between that rivalry. He's a guy
that will put it right in the middle, paint his
face and do you really want that. If there's a
difference between Desmond that's I've seen this a lot. Would

(47:19):
you do this to Desmond Howard? There's a difference between
Howard and.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
David port As it gets and look, it's part of
his brand. I actually think in a weird way.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
I mean, it could deteriorate the relationship between Fox and
Ohio State, which is an important one because they go
to Ohio State for a Big New kickoff.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
More than any other school. But it actually brings a
lot of attention to Fox Big Noon.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
You think, you think Ohio State, you think that game
will go on if Fox and the Big Noon Kickoff
isn't there. I think Ohio State has the upper hand
no matter what, of course, but and they are flexing
it here actually could help them because now people are
talking about Fox kickoff and people are saying, oh, where's
portnod going to be the seeing on the desk When
he actually get in the stadium, people are going to
tune in a watch.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
And I think that was the whole intrigue about bringing
Portnoy in because he he can create these type of
conversations even though he's not a football guy. He's on
Kkcafe where he's gonna bak down anything football related, but
he can create these conversations and bring in views where
Big New Kickoff obviously is way behind Game Day and
they need.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
This is the best, this is what he does. This
is like the best, yeah, the best thing he does.
But when it comes to content, I don't really think
of much of him, to be honest, like like takes,
excuse me, I don't res takes.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
Yeah, a watch of games that much isn't though. Yeah,
everyone knows that, But that's not what he's there for.
He's and that he's he's a funny guy who's a
sports fan.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah, but that's how I would describe all right. And
I think they start next week with Fox, not just that.
I think is this this week the Saturday, the whole no,
the whole show, I mean, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
that spot post labor.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I don't even know half of those people that were
on the graphic. I know that there are people out
there that love Barstool. I am one of these people
that have been just totally over it on my timeline.
I can't like it's just the fun bars, the algorithm.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
They own it.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
It's like mister Beast right, Like it really is in
that same world where it's like their algorithm warriors and
they own it. Yeah, and it's just like all right,
as much as I like Big Cat and PFT, I
can't deal with it because it's like it's all of it,
and I just I don't care about big Balls.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Glen and this nikky SIGs and like, I just I can't.
I can't. Yeah, I don't blame you. A lot of
it's just really cringe. But I do like Big Cat
and I do like PFT.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Most people I think would say that they're like real
sports fans, would say they're part of my take fans
and not necessarily forest.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Another show that I've never listened to a minute. I
listened to part I take Huge.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
I listened to that when it came out in twenty sixteen,
So I was an og part of my takeway before
they exploded. So I'll take credit, not credit, but I'll
take some solace in that. But the rest of it's
just a lot. But they own the algorithm and that's
what they do. And then there are social media brand
that they came up on the Internet, and they own
the Internet in a way that no other company has
ever replicated or figured out that in a way that

(50:09):
they can't.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Yeah, it's good, nice work by them.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
They've brought in some really good people to help them
out over the years, and obviously somebody is damn good
at what they do. And you know, they've created and
you know what, I got to give credit to that
they've been able to create a fan base. You know
there there's a reason why that. Yeah, those things are
on the algorithm for a reason, right. So, but I
just it's just too much. It's way too much. And
I think I have blocked and tried and attempted. I'm

(50:35):
not a mute I'm not a word mute guy.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Muted word guy. I never do that.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
But I think that's if you want success in that world.
It's not about blocking these accounts, it's about muting those words.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Yeah, let's just do what words you muted? Swift and
Kelsey No, like the Bolt, you.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Know, I wish I could mute Trump, you know, like
barstool a.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Dry timeline, it's a mute Trump. I mean, they think
like you can't. My thing is this, Sam, I just
want Twitter for sports.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
That's why I'm doing Twitter for sports and sports.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
I've been on threads recently, tweet threading a little bit there,
whatever you call it, and I scrolling is it's sports.
It's my for now, my timeline sports because my Twitter
timeline is it's just too much. I mean, there's some
sports I'd love it for to be all sports, but
it's a lot of other.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Sea it's not enough sports. That's a good way of
looking at it's some sports. The same thing with my timeline.
It's like, dude, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Going on here to find out.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
You know, I have other sources for news and worldly
current events and cultural topics.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I have other sources for that. Twitter was always a sports.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Thing for me, Like I like skimming my timeline and
seeing ed Low from you know, DraftKings talking about a
play and week one that he likes. I like seeing
your link to the score and something that you posted.
But I feel like I never get that it's always.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Tweet. I barely tweet my links anymore because they suppressed links.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
They don't want you to leave the app, so all
these links are suppressed, suppressed, And it's just like it's
just videos like thirty to sixty second videos or we'll
do it fun times, all right.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Daily ticket, we're off and running here. You never know
where we're gonna go. Actually, the other side note Cold
by Marsha is coming up. Yes, excited to get Colby
on He's ready to go. Bottom line is this, we
are going to hit all things college football. What little
sprinkle on the Phillies. Can they score some runs tonight

(52:30):
in New York? Oh, by the way, also also a
l MVP. The Big Dumper continues to do it in
a big way.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
The three to two other win of cow swinging a well.
They ball deep the left field, head into the upper deck,
state bear upper deck. Goodbye, baseball number fifty per kilroy.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Kobe Marshall on the other side
is daily.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
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Speaker 3 (52:57):
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