March 13, 2025 • 28 mins
Sean Brace and Sam Oshtry talk the latest in #MarchMadness and the #CBB conference tournaments, the injury to Cooper Flagg, LIVE #CBB ACTION and more!
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
There you go, and a good afternoon, everybody. Sam Ostry
from the Score. I am Sean Brace. This is daily
Take it on a Thursday. A lot going on in
the sports world. I know it's mandatory. Everybody on sports
talk radio opens up their show by saying exactly that,
or podcasts. But folks, we are in the middle of
the anarchy as we are fast approaching to Sunday Selection Sunday,
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where we will all be breaking out the brackets trying
to find who will have the path that will lead
them to six straight victories over the next month.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We do have some hiccups.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We do have some turbulence right now in the world
of college basketball, and I think that might be underplaying
it just a tad bit.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
We are going to open up with the big story
in sports and if you missed it, around about an
how're and a half, Actually he's around twelve thirty. Around
twelve thirty, Duke taking on Georgia Tech trailing in the
first half. Cooper Flag could very well be the Player
of the Year, could very well defensive player year, all
acc anything, in everything, Cooper Flag has been to the
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Duke Blue Devils in college basketball as a whole. He
goes up for a rebound, comes down all weight on
his left ankle, and that thing bent like it's not
supposed to bend, and next thing you know, he is
getting wheeled into the X ray room. Sam Ostri was
then able to keep up with the latest report. I
assume X rays came back negative because Cooper flag was
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found or was pictured on the bench in the second
half when Duke came.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Back to come to win the game against Georgieach X
rays came back negative, which is, of course, is a
good thing. He came back on the bench, was rooting
on his teammate. Duke ended up picking teammates. Duke ends
up picking up the eight point win. A lot of
swelling in the ankle apparently, though, so X rays come
back negative, you gotta see that swell and go down
before you can get MRIs on it. But you assume
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the best at this point. Look, it kind of reminded
me of the Jalen Brunson ankle sprain from about a
week and a half ago. That was where it's just
the whole thing just twisted and it looked ugly. Obviously
had to be helped off the court. Didn't look good.
Very similar, but that Jalen Brunson ankle sprain. He's only
supposed to be out around two weeks and he'll be
evaluated after two weeks. And of course at this point,
when the Knicks have the three seed and the playoffs
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are approaching, you're gonna be cautious and paid. With a
guy like John Brunson, the Duke Blue Devils do not
have the luxury of being patient right now. They need
Kupra Flag back as soon as possible. Of course, we'll
be out the rest of the a SEC tournament. We'll
see how that plays out the rest of the weekend.
But now we're talking about an opening game against the
sixteen seed, you know, next Thursday or Friday, and whether
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we'll be back for that game again.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
X rays negative is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You gotta wait for that swoing to go down again,
MRI and then we'll see and go from there.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Flag is about as important as it gets to any team.
And I do want to put this the Infasis sud
this more than anything like I could. As always, we
are all fired up for the tournament. We all have
our idea of who's going to cut down the nets potentially,
who could There's so many questions that we come into
a tournament with and we all you know, it's just
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it's fun answering them and filling out the brackets. That's
for everybody, no doubt. But I love the stories that
make what makes up March madness. And whether it is
the Sister Gene, whether it is the under still lobby,
she's still kicking, it's still going barely.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, it's impressive. I'll take that right now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Whether it's the underhand layer of free throws, you know, stuff,
stupid stuff always pops up. So I love a little
bit of that. But at the end of the day,
you want your best players out there as well, and
Cooper flag missing any time would not be a good thing.
Now to your point, looking into your crystal ball, is
it that we know Duke will be a one seed,
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we know that they will be facing off against a
sixteen seed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But if you are coach Shier here, is that something
that's going to your mind, like, hey, look, it's not
about that game.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're sitting for that game.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You gotta see how the swelling goes down over these
next few days. It'll probably be a one to two
week timeline typically. I don't know if the label is that,
but I assume this injury would be about will be
out about one to two weeks typically, But you don't
have that luxury, like I said earlier, So you have
an opening game against sixteen seed Thursday Friday. I assume
they're gonna get him ready to go. I don't know
if he's necessarily gonna play that opening game, but they're
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gonna get him ready to go for that first game
against the sixteen seed. Now that I'm thinking about a
little more, it probably is smart to sit Cooper flag
in against the sixteen seed.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But he'll be playing next weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm pretty confident of that, unless it's a serious injury
that maybe the MRIs come back and they're ugly. He's
gonna be playing next weekend, in the opening weekend to
try to get to the Sweet sixteen, whether it's in
that second matchup against the eight to nine team, or
maybe even if it progresses really well in that first game,
to kind of get his get his feel and comfort back,
because you don't want him going into a difficult matchup
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his first game back, when he's obviously gonna be wearing
an ankle.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Brace, you might be limping on it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You don't want him that to be his first matchup
back where he's getting used to that bum ankle, that
he's now gonna be playing on for the rest of
his college career, really, so I don't know exactly how
it's gonna progress. What we saw though from Duke at
the end of that game, really in that second half
when they escape with that, with that eight point victory, was.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A lot of con nipple.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The offense really started revolving around him, and yeah, he
looked pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A lot of ball screens.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah he's a shooter, but I don't think people really
realized how Yeah, I think so, okay, I think so, yeah,
he's just because he's a prolific shooter, but I don't
think people realize how he can play on the ball
as well too. He was ball screen after ball screen.
He was just dominating making the right reads. From what
I caught in the second half against Georgia Tech, So
you can kind of last against the sixteen seed playing
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with that. But more bad injury news for Duke is
Malik Brown, a pretty big bench player for them. He
relocated his shoulder excuse me, redislocated his shoulder in that
game and was taken to the hospital. So I don't
know that's not the injury to the extent that Cooper
Flagg is because he obviously comes off the bench, but
still the guys just getting hurt for Duke, not a
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great showing on this second the quarterfinals of the ACC
torn their first game.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, their first game of postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I do believe we have We haven't had any movement
so as far as the injury is concerned. Both of
those injuries, it's plus three sixty essentially. That's what Duke
was three forty last week. Auburn's plus three fifty. They've
been going back and forth, back and forth. I do
think we will see significant movement in the number once
these conference tournaments get done and the field gets cut down.
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How much, I'm not sure going back to some of
my conversations in the offseason, because I was pretty pretty
adamant about how dominant Duke was going to be this season.
I know a lot of people were, but that was
the one that screamed the loudest to me this season.
I thought that Duke was a very real possibility to
cutting down the nets. And I don't remember too many
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times that I'm screaming that out in July. Yeah, and
I think I even bit off a little bit more
than I could chew with that statement because I thought
they were going to be a little bit more explosive.
They're dominant twenty eight and three, no doubt about it.
Cooper flag was as great as advertised.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Understood.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But here we are right now, back and forth, back
and forth Auburn right now, Duke plus three sixty, Auburn
plus three fifty. Uh and again that ship has sailed.
But at the same time, from those two teams perspective,
when these tournaments come, when the bracket comes out on Sunday,
that number, what do you think happens to that number?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That number is gonna go down to what to eighty
to ninety three, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think Auburn is gonna be the favorite because of
this injury, now absolutely, I just I think they've been
so dominant.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We'll see how that will be. One overall. Yeah, there'll
be a one overall, see for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But I still think the Duke will be in that
East region because they'll be the two overall seed regardless
of how this injury plays out. But there's gonna be
uncertainty around Duke, so you can't make them the favorite
because of this injury. We're really not gonna know up
from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, next week. What Kuper Flag status is.
The thing is, remember, this guy is a generational prospect.
I mean, these guys come around more frequently for Duke
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than other programs, But this guy's a generational prospect. Saying
lock to be the number one pick in the NBA draft,
if that has to be a consideration when he when
he's designed to come back or not he if he
injury in the ankle and makes it a more serious injury,
maybe he breaks his ankle. If I'm a franchise, I'm
still taking him because of how good he is, but
that's got to be consideration where he could slip in
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the draft potentially if it's like a broken ankle and
he won't even be ready for the start of next season,
So that's gotta be a consideration. I think Kuper Flag
is a baller, He's a dog, his mentality, his fierceness
as a competitor on the court. He's gonna want to
come back and he's gonna want to play on a
bum ankle because that's just who he is and his character,
and that's why he's really a generational prospect and why
teams love him and he'll be the number one pick
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in the draft, so I think he'll try to come
back as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Chair, but it's gotta.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Be a consideration of re injuring this thing for the
draft coming up.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's the world we live in, and it's the way
that they should all be looking at something like this.
This situation is not something to take lightly for crying
a lot. My guy was in a wheelchair. Yeah, I
think Paul Pierce will wheelchair a little bit more of
a than Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But I do love the timeline.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
People are like looking like he's getting the hang of
the Sixers thing already as he's get and wheeled out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
No, But to your point about, hey, look, you gotta
be smart and the draft is right around the corner,
you know, I still think teams would probably take him
number one overall, even if he had to lose his
foot like like ole Man ball.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole thing amputated, Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm still taking Cooper flag with one leg out there.
I don't care, but it is something that he will
definitely be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I did see Shire speak to the media and our
own Ryan Beef Coyle said that it was good news
that what he was able to say as far as
in that press conference. He sprained his ankle x razor negative,
which is great. We'll have to see how he recovers
and we'll and he goes from there. Close quote, but
bottom line is big news of the day. Cooper Flag
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goes down with a major ankle injury. How severe is it,
we don't know, but he was unable to return to
the game. He did come out to the bench joining
his teammates, cheering his teammates Tom Man.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It just was not a.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Good thing period in the story from a just a
college basketball fan, basketball fan, March Madness fan and I
saw that text come in our group chat and I
just stopped.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My jaw hit the floor. I'm like, what, No, not him.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Now here's the question though, Sam and I was joking
about this as well in the group text.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Why are we playing these Why are we playing conference?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
To I?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Actually I think they mad? I love covered. They don't
matter though seating is done on Friday.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Not for seating, Okay, for program pride. Like if I'm
a fan, I'm a fan of Maryland. You know that
man of conference tournament action too. I want Maryland to
win the conference tournament.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It matters to me. I want them to be Big
ten champions. Cutting down a net.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Saying you're champion is something to hang your hand on.
Not everyone goes to the final four. Not everyone wins
a national title. It is really hard to accomplish. If
you lose in the sweet sixteen or even the Elite eight,
you can say, all right, we won our conference.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Championship, add up to a regular season championship. Isn't it
like a tier A significant tier below significant tiers.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Winning a conference tournament with what four games if.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It depends if you have the double bye if you're
Maryland will be three games because they get the double
ye I get.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If you're not making the tournament, it's a different ball game, right, Like,
you're obviously locked into the day, you have no doubt
about that. But if you're a team like Duke, well,
what's the game over a conference tournament?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you're it's it's different based on the conference you're in.
Duke plays in a horrific acc they lost one game
in the conference. Okay, they should not care about the
conference tournament because they have bigger goals. If you're in
a conference like the Big Ten or the SEC, when
it is a dog fight every single night, you have
double digit teams in your conference, making the NC double
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a tournament that matters. If you can come out on
top in a tournament with fourteen teams who are are
are real good teams, Like you're only playing good teams
night in and night out, and you come out on
top in a great conference, that means something. That's a
banner that hangs like that it is it is. It's
not winning the whole thing, but it's a banner that hangs.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And it's so we're risking Cooper flag or name name
the player, his his health in a tournament that we all.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Care what du dude, just punt it like not not
sit sit down. I mean you have to play them comer.
Just need the revenue, I think I.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Think, Okay, well that's a different You're right, because that's
the conversation goes to the college football right, Yes, but
where where that's the only reason why they're playing.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Is because of revenue. Yes, but for this it's not
just it's revenue is.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Probably the biggest part, but it's also automatic bids matter
like it's cool when when teams make roun like Georgetown
won the Big East the other the other year after
just rallying off four or five to wins and ce
state they had no business being in the tournament. Sure
they won the ACC tournament and then make the final four.
Okaylu stories are cool. You don't have that without conference tournaments.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So again we're talking about two different teams though, or
two different perspectives here. We're talking about one duke who
is obviously a one seed, the second overall number one
seed in the tournament, have nothing to gain other than
a banner. You want to talk about something for a
program's perspective, I think it would be more valuable to
play the other guys versus your stars that you know
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you need come next week once March Madness officially gets here.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But it's still you're playing on the devil's abbot, but
you're you're learning something about your teams, you're playing on
a neutral court, you're playing, it's it's every day you're playing.
But when the tournament you're playing, you play on a
Thursday or Friday, then you play on a Saturday or Sunday,
so it's not a lot of rest you're playing on
the neutral court, fierce atmosphere, postseason basketball, like you're learning
something about your team as you go through these early
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conference tournaments to get ready for them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You're playing it's October, you're still learning about it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You're skipping when you're playing in Cameron in door stadium,
or or you're playing in ACC and Viney, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Playing in Charlotte. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now if it was in Greensboro, you might have me okay, And.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's another thing. Put it back in Greensboro, damn it. Yeah,
that was great when the ACC tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yes, but I still think they matter, like for Duke
if they win or lose, Duke fans.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Won't really care about about the a SEC tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
But it's a that's a unique story and unique program
because the conference is so bad this year, other conferences,
these things matters.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You're not gonna punt it.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Should this have ever crossed Shire's mind? I bet it did.
I bet it did. But it's like, again, you're not
gonna punt it because what if, what if you don't
win the whole thing or you don't make the final four,
you still would rather say we won the a CC
regular seas championship. We won the a CEC tournament. That's
something to hang out on. That's something to show boosters.
Do they really care, No, because they want you to
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have March success in the big tournament. But it's something
to show these guys and show your fan base because
you're most teams aren't gonna win the whole thing, but
you know it is on your side. As we're watching
this electric game, arkansass Up won on Ole Miss with
the minutes ago plus four and as Y cal agrees
with you, Coach Cow.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Coach Cow, he said the other day he was like,
what do I care?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
All those years I was Kentucky, we didn't care about
winning the SEC tournament, but so we cared about cutting
down the big next.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
If you ever approached a Kentucky fan about winning the
SEC championship, what would they have done to you?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
They would laugh at Yeah, so a laughing.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Everyone's perspective is different based on your your program's history,
based on your standing in the national conversation among college
basketball fans and programs.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So everyone's different.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
For dukes in Kentucky's it may not matter for a
program like Maryland who hasn't won a national championships in
two thousand and two has been largely irrelevant for the
last few years on the national scene.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Winning the Big Ten tournament will Matt. So it's based
on each program.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I know that this will be a discussion on every
radio show, television show, and yes, I know that I
brought it up, but it joked in a joking manner
on our text message group, like, yeah, cancel conference tournaments.
I'm not saying to cancel conference tournaments that far. What
I am saying is exactly what you brought up. Thank
you for helping and make my point. With Kentucky, they
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would never care and the SEC stunk all those years.
They would never give a damn about hanging a banner
at the SEC tournament. It was always about winning six
straight and if you did not do that, then the
season was a failure.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It was a failure.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And look, I think the all the bluebleds would probably
agree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, Duke's in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So Duke, for my money, I think Shier probably he
did have this conversation with this guys. Should we play them,
should we not get him out there? And now do
you think he's going to have a different perspective moving
forward as Duke's head coach, maybe next year in the
years to come.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's not the same, but it's similar in a way
to the end season tournament. It's not really the same
at all, actually, but here's why it's similar.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's similar because the whole thing with the N Season
Tournament is most of those players went out there and said,
all right, we're competing for a championship. They may not
really matter who wins the N Season Tournament, in fact,
that doesn't at all, but you're still going out there
competing for a champion. So when we get to this
bracket where it's eight teams, we're gonna give it all.
We're gonna give MAXI some effort because we're competing for
something amongst other teams and we want to be the best.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We don't care what the competition level is.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
We want to come out the best because these are
the best competitors in the world. So everyone in the
N Season Tournament who makes that eighteen bracket, those teams
were all really competing for that in season Tournament championship,
and the Bucks ended up winning.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's the same thing here.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
If you're putting a team out there and you're putting
a team out there to compete in a tournament style
competition like this one, You're going to want to compete
for the championship. You're not just gonna lay over under
any circumstance. It may not be as important, but you're
not gonna lay over. You have a team of competitors.
You want to win something. It matters. It means something.
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Even though it's not even close to the what it
means to cut down the big nets in April at
the Final four, it still means something. And so you
want to compete because it's the best competitors in the world,
and you put them in a conference tournament chimp setting
like that, they're gonna compete.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And then I don't think Duke will or John.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Shire will ever have a different approach where it's like,
we're not we're gonna bench our guys because we haveigger goals.
We've never seen it happen in college basketball. You're right,
never seen that happen.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
You're right. But it's a new day. It is.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's a whole new day. We see things constantly changing
in college You know.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Who would have done that, A guy like coach k
would have done that he would have been like, we
don't Rick Patino. Those guys would have done that. They
would have been like, we don't care about this commerce tournament.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
We have bigger goals. And they would have been right.
But but then what happens when they lose in the
Elite eight. No one's reasons, no one's remembering.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's like Saquon Barkley sitting for the final game and
not getting the two thousand or the all time leading
rushing record. If the Eagles lost the Super Bowl to
the Kansas City Chiefs, were you ever going back to that.
I know there are some blowhard idiots on our timeline
that would have Nobody cared exactly. So if they go
to the lead eight and they lose there, I don't
think anybody's going back on.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, this is why you should have played in that
acc But it's still like that's an individual.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Award for Saquon Barkley versus versus a team accomplished.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Very true, but in similar strokes, I would just say
we're talking about the overall. Like Cooper Flagg, I don't
have to tell you how special is he is the guy.
Maybe they should have aired on the side of caution
and just said, you know what, We're gonna give you
a little rest.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, Yeah, I could say that maybe.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Sit U versus Georgia Tech, let's sit un versus maybe
lesson his minutes, lesson his workload, lesson is minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm sure. I just today, if you use.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The alite, I still think Look, fans are furious. Sure,
I still think it's something that you you are hanging
a banner for the regular season, a SEC championship, and
the and the conference tournament ECC championship.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's something to hang your hand on.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like when you look at coach K's resume all the time,
it lists how many final fours, how many national titles,
and then it goes to ACC tournament titles that he
has in a CC regular season, regular season titles that
he has. That is an accomplishment. It's on his resume.
It's part of what makes him great.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So let me just say this and we'll move off
of this. Julian Needlow's gonna join us at three thirty.
We got plenty of spreads, the breakdown, sides, totals, props,
all that conference tournament action. Uh Sam is currently sweating out.
Oh yeah, you're still up by what what was a challenge? Yeah,
I guess I challenges, dude. These challenges are making me
lose my mind in sports. I I we have to
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do something about the challenge. There's got to be a
challenge clock in every sport. I'm no longer the guy
saying just get it right. I am now the guy
saying get it right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
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know people they literally will go there for seven minutes.
You know, technology, it's pretty good there at the wells
Ferguson and I promise you. But at the end of
the day, I hear the ref talking to the guy
that is going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's just like, this is mad. I think it's important
to get it right in the last minute or two
before that. I'm with you. I like to just use
ref's discretion because before that, I don't need you to
review in the second quarter or the first half of
a game, no foul, oh one, wow, we're gonna get overtime.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So it's eighty to seventy nine, twenty seconds left, second half,
Arkansas currently up by one over old miss at this
point in time. Now we're gonna go over down has
a wager on them Hogs.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's the number four and a half plus plus four
and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Plus four and a half? All right, why'd you back
the Hogs here today? I was impressed with them yesterday.
Obviously they blew it late.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
In that game, but I was very impressed with that
first hack yesterday. I think this team has some momentum
coming into this into this tournament, and they're also on
the bubble. Like like, I think they were pretty on
the safe side of the bubble. They were on the
right side of the bubble, but they needed a decent
tournament run. I think after yesterday they're in. No matter
what if they win today, they're one thousand percent in.
So this is a desperate, desperate tournament for them, desperate
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times in Nashville, and I thought they were gonna come
out and pull out. I also think Ole Miss is
really overrated. Thirteen seconds left, they're gonna get the final shot.
He drives, falls, throwze it home off. We gotta file,
we gotta foul. That's a bailout call.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
How we missed that bunny from two feet out?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's a bailout call from from that We got to
see the replace thirty thousand feet up. Yeah, before the replay,
that looked like there just let him play. Uh he
did go to the ground, though, What are you calling intentional?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They're saying as a flagrant flagrant a miss. Fans are pissed.
What did I miss it? He drives?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He thought that travel by the way, how do you
miss that? What do you tell? What's going on here?
I don't know where the fault.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
He jumped on his own player, look at us, he
goes up, he comes down.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Where's the foul? I don't see any facts? What is
going on? What are they calling in that moment of
the game? You call a fowl?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
What am I missing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I don't see any foul there. That was also the
happening in that pick correct, What was your call there?
It was a horrible care, horrible col I didn't have
anything in that, so I didn't really care.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Make your free throws.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Oh my god, here we go freaking it's I know
it's loud and Nasha.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Free throw number two. This is why you prove your words.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
There's sixteen organs sixteen for twenty four from the line
in the second half.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Make your free throws. It's March SEC Tournament, second round action.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Arkansas eighty Old Miss eighty Sam just needs a point
here point.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then yeah, so we don't go to they might
call a makeup call. You know that might come here
we go free throw up? Oh my godness, I want
so I bake it, make it, make it come. That's
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final shot from the half court. Wow, what a cover coach?
Col Coach col Chris Beard an old Miss advancing. Wow,
make your free throws.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Let's go ball do live but Arkansas missing the free
throws down the stretch?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Wow? Is that white boy that came up and hit
that old miss? Coach cow by the way yesterday? Did
you see what he did?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He deserves this after the movie he pulled yesterday when
he they all was up three and he told his
player to intentionally miss the free throw with two point
five seconds left. He ended up making it. So why
in the world would you ever tell your player to
intentionally miss it? For go it for the game is
literally over. It's probably over anyway, but you have no
chance of losing it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I think Cal gets bored. That's my honest yay.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
He says he does things different ways. It's like all right,
there's smart ways and dumb thing ways to do things.
Putting a bow on the conference tournament action. Just want
to say this, there have been since nineteen eighty forty
four national champions. Of those, forty four, thirty nine played
in conference tournaments. Of those thirty nine, thirty one won
their conference tournament. That's all well and good.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I get it, But just because you don't play your
best players doesn't mean you're going to automatically lose. And
Cooper Flag getting a day off here there again, heavy
on the revisionist history, heavy on the Thursday morning quarterback, understood,
but come on, man, we gotta be thinking a little
bit further down the road here. That's all I'm saying.
Sam Austen from the score, hell of a start here
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on the daily ticket, nice call one, and oh on
the day.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Julian Edlos, I got news for you when we go
back with you right now.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Philadelphia seventy six ers forward Paul George is consulting with
doctors this week on treatment options for his groin and
knee injuries. Good A decision spect is expected early next week.
It could be a possible procedure. You didn't want to
hear that I didn't tell you that. At the end
of the day.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's Paul George whatever.
Not much more to say, get the treatment, shut everyone down.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We are I'm counting down the days until we call
this the season, which is April thirteenth, I think it
is the last day of regular season.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then early May the lottery.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's that's the real super Bowl, the lottery where.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
We're gonna be hopefully landing a guy with ankle injuries,
ankle problems.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I kid, I cad. That's a good problem to have,
all right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Julian Nedlo On the other side, Uh, fantastic ending to
old miss and ours. If you are near a computer
or your phone, whatever it may be, go ahead and
check the ending their great ballgame.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Nice work by Sam Austria on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We'll see if we can get an advantage on some
of these upcoming games or joining thatlow on the other side,
he joins us from DraftKings sportsbook.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
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You know it's funny, Sam, what's that?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Two weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I would have told you, No, I'm not a Disney guy.
I'm not a Mickey guy.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You were just there.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I got it now a Mickey sweatsher and a mickey
Key chain. Am I officially a Disney slash Mickey guy?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Thank you, Mimy. Did they turn you there when you
were over at Walt Disney? It was fun, It was fun.
I'm in. I'm in on the Disney craze.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
To a point. Well, what did you do there? A
little bit of everything like did you hit the apcots
and the Magic Kingdom? Did Magic Kingdom?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And that was where it was magical, my friend, That's
where we where they hooked me.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Into it and they pumped it through my veins. What's
the big ride there? I'm trying to remember the Space
Mountains Mountain.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
There you go, and a good afternoon, everybody. Sam Ostry
from the Score. I am Sean Brace. This is daily
Take it on a Thursday. A lot going on in
the sports world. I know it's mandatory. Everybody on sports
talk radio opens up their show by saying exactly that,
or podcasts. But folks, we are in the middle of
the anarchy as we are fast approaching to Sunday Selection Sunday,
(02:05):
where we will all be breaking out the brackets trying
to find who will have the path that will lead
them to six straight victories over the next month.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
We do have some hiccups.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We do have some turbulence right now in the world
of college basketball, and I think that might be underplaying
it just a tad bit.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
We are going to open up with the big story
in sports and if you missed it, around about an
how're and a half, Actually he's around twelve thirty. Around
twelve thirty, Duke taking on Georgia Tech trailing in the
first half. Cooper Flag could very well be the Player
of the Year, could very well defensive player year, all
acc anything, in everything, Cooper Flag has been to the
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Duke Blue Devils in college basketball as a whole. He
goes up for a rebound, comes down all weight on
his left ankle, and that thing bent like it's not
supposed to bend, and next thing you know, he is
getting wheeled into the X ray room. Sam Ostri was
then able to keep up with the latest report. I
assume X rays came back negative because Cooper flag was
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found or was pictured on the bench in the second
half when Duke came.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Back to come to win the game against Georgieach X
rays came back negative, which is, of course, is a
good thing. He came back on the bench, was rooting
on his teammate. Duke ended up picking teammates. Duke ends
up picking up the eight point win. A lot of
swelling in the ankle apparently, though, so X rays come
back negative, you gotta see that swell and go down
before you can get MRIs on it. But you assume
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the best at this point. Look, it kind of reminded
me of the Jalen Brunson ankle sprain from about a
week and a half ago. That was where it's just
the whole thing just twisted and it looked ugly. Obviously
had to be helped off the court. Didn't look good.
Very similar, but that Jalen Brunson ankle sprain. He's only
supposed to be out around two weeks and he'll be
evaluated after two weeks. And of course at this point,
when the Knicks have the three seed and the playoffs
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are approaching, you're gonna be cautious and paid. With a
guy like John Brunson, the Duke Blue Devils do not
have the luxury of being patient right now. They need
Kupra Flag back as soon as possible. Of course, we'll
be out the rest of the a SEC tournament. We'll
see how that plays out the rest of the weekend.
But now we're talking about an opening game against the
sixteen seed, you know, next Thursday or Friday, and whether
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we'll be back for that game again.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
X rays negative is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You gotta wait for that swoing to go down again,
MRI and then we'll see and go from there.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Flag is about as important as it gets to any team.
And I do want to put this the Infasis sud
this more than anything like I could. As always, we
are all fired up for the tournament. We all have
our idea of who's going to cut down the nets potentially,
who could There's so many questions that we come into
a tournament with and we all you know, it's just
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it's fun answering them and filling out the brackets. That's
for everybody, no doubt. But I love the stories that
make what makes up March madness. And whether it is
the Sister Gene, whether it is the under still lobby,
she's still kicking, it's still going barely.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, it's impressive. I'll take that right now.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Whether it's the underhand layer of free throws, you know, stuff,
stupid stuff always pops up. So I love a little
bit of that. But at the end of the day,
you want your best players out there as well, and
Cooper flag missing any time would not be a good thing.
Now to your point, looking into your crystal ball, is
it that we know Duke will be a one seed,
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we know that they will be facing off against a
sixteen seed.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's happened.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
But if you are coach Shier here, is that something
that's going to your mind, like, hey, look, it's not
about that game.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You're sitting for that game.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You gotta see how the swelling goes down over these
next few days. It'll probably be a one to two
week timeline typically. I don't know if the label is that,
but I assume this injury would be about will be
out about one to two weeks typically, But you don't
have that luxury, like I said earlier, So you have
an opening game against sixteen seed Thursday Friday. I assume
they're gonna get him ready to go. I don't know
if he's necessarily gonna play that opening game, but they're
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gonna get him ready to go for that first game
against the sixteen seed. Now that I'm thinking about a
little more, it probably is smart to sit Cooper flag
in against the sixteen seed.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But he'll be playing next weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm pretty confident of that, unless it's a serious injury
that maybe the MRIs come back and they're ugly. He's
gonna be playing next weekend, in the opening weekend to
try to get to the Sweet sixteen, whether it's in
that second matchup against the eight to nine team, or
maybe even if it progresses really well in that first game,
to kind of get his get his feel and comfort back,
because you don't want him going into a difficult matchup
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his first game back, when he's obviously gonna be wearing
an ankle.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Brace, you might be limping on it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You don't want him that to be his first matchup
back where he's getting used to that bum ankle, that
he's now gonna be playing on for the rest of
his college career, really, so I don't know exactly how
it's gonna progress. What we saw though from Duke at
the end of that game, really in that second half
when they escape with that, with that eight point victory, was.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A lot of con nipple.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The offense really started revolving around him, and yeah, he
looked pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A lot of ball screens.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah he's a shooter, but I don't think people really
realized how Yeah, I think so, okay, I think so, yeah,
he's just because he's a prolific shooter, but I don't
think people realize how he can play on the ball
as well too. He was ball screen after ball screen.
He was just dominating making the right reads. From what
I caught in the second half against Georgia Tech, So
you can kind of last against the sixteen seed playing
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with that. But more bad injury news for Duke is
Malik Brown, a pretty big bench player for them. He
relocated his shoulder excuse me, redislocated his shoulder in that
game and was taken to the hospital. So I don't
know that's not the injury to the extent that Cooper
Flagg is because he obviously comes off the bench, but
still the guys just getting hurt for Duke, not a
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great showing on this second the quarterfinals of the ACC
torn their first game.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah, their first game of postseason.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I do believe we have We haven't had any movement
so as far as the injury is concerned. Both of
those injuries, it's plus three sixty essentially. That's what Duke
was three forty last week. Auburn's plus three fifty. They've
been going back and forth, back and forth. I do
think we will see significant movement in the number once
these conference tournaments get done and the field gets cut down.
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How much, I'm not sure going back to some of
my conversations in the offseason, because I was pretty pretty
adamant about how dominant Duke was going to be this season.
I know a lot of people were, but that was
the one that screamed the loudest to me this season.
I thought that Duke was a very real possibility to
cutting down the nets. And I don't remember too many
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times that I'm screaming that out in July. Yeah, and
I think I even bit off a little bit more
than I could chew with that statement because I thought
they were going to be a little bit more explosive.
They're dominant twenty eight and three, no doubt about it.
Cooper flag was as great as advertised.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Understood.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But here we are right now, back and forth, back
and forth Auburn right now, Duke plus three sixty, Auburn
plus three fifty. Uh and again that ship has sailed.
But at the same time, from those two teams perspective,
when these tournaments come, when the bracket comes out on Sunday,
that number, what do you think happens to that number?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
That number is gonna go down to what to eighty
to ninety three, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I think Auburn is gonna be the favorite because of
this injury, now absolutely, I just I think they've been
so dominant.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
We'll see how that will be. One overall. Yeah, there'll
be a one overall, see for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
But I still think the Duke will be in that
East region because they'll be the two overall seed regardless
of how this injury plays out. But there's gonna be
uncertainty around Duke, so you can't make them the favorite
because of this injury. We're really not gonna know up
from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, next week. What Kuper Flag status is.
The thing is, remember, this guy is a generational prospect.
I mean, these guys come around more frequently for Duke
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than other programs, But this guy's a generational prospect. Saying
lock to be the number one pick in the NBA draft,
if that has to be a consideration when he when
he's designed to come back or not he if he
injury in the ankle and makes it a more serious injury,
maybe he breaks his ankle. If I'm a franchise, I'm
still taking him because of how good he is, but
that's got to be consideration where he could slip in
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the draft potentially if it's like a broken ankle and
he won't even be ready for the start of next season,
So that's gotta be a consideration. I think Kuper Flag
is a baller, He's a dog, his mentality, his fierceness
as a competitor on the court. He's gonna want to
come back and he's gonna want to play on a
bum ankle because that's just who he is and his character,
and that's why he's really a generational prospect and why
teams love him and he'll be the number one pick
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in the draft, so I think he'll try to come
back as soon as possible.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Chair, but it's gotta.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Be a consideration of re injuring this thing for the
draft coming up.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's the world we live in, and it's the way
that they should all be looking at something like this.
This situation is not something to take lightly for crying
a lot. My guy was in a wheelchair. Yeah, I
think Paul Pierce will wheelchair a little bit more of
a than Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
But I do love the timeline.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
People are like looking like he's getting the hang of
the Sixers thing already as he's get and wheeled out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
No, But to your point about, hey, look, you gotta
be smart and the draft is right around the corner,
you know, I still think teams would probably take him
number one overall, even if he had to lose his
foot like like ole Man ball.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole thing amputated, Yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I'm still taking Cooper flag with one leg out there.
I don't care, but it is something that he will
definitely be thinking about.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I did see Shire speak to the media and our
own Ryan Beef Coyle said that it was good news
that what he was able to say as far as
in that press conference. He sprained his ankle x razor negative,
which is great. We'll have to see how he recovers
and we'll and he goes from there. Close quote, but
bottom line is big news of the day. Cooper Flag
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goes down with a major ankle injury. How severe is it,
we don't know, but he was unable to return to
the game. He did come out to the bench joining
his teammates, cheering his teammates Tom Man.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It just was not a.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Good thing period in the story from a just a
college basketball fan, basketball fan, March Madness fan and I
saw that text come in our group chat and I
just stopped.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My jaw hit the floor. I'm like, what, No, not him.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Now here's the question though, Sam and I was joking
about this as well in the group text.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Why are we playing these Why are we playing conference?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
To I?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Actually I think they mad? I love covered. They don't
matter though seating is done on Friday.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Not for seating, Okay, for program pride. Like if I'm
a fan, I'm a fan of Maryland. You know that
man of conference tournament action too. I want Maryland to
win the conference tournament.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
It matters to me. I want them to be Big
ten champions. Cutting down a net.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Saying you're champion is something to hang your hand on.
Not everyone goes to the final four. Not everyone wins
a national title. It is really hard to accomplish. If
you lose in the sweet sixteen or even the Elite eight,
you can say, all right, we won our conference.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Championship, add up to a regular season championship. Isn't it
like a tier A significant tier below significant tiers.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
No, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Winning a conference tournament with what four games if.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It depends if you have the double bye if you're
Maryland will be three games because they get the double
ye I get.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If you're not making the tournament, it's a different ball game, right, Like,
you're obviously locked into the day, you have no doubt
about that. But if you're a team like Duke, well,
what's the game over a conference tournament?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you're it's it's different based on the conference you're in.
Duke plays in a horrific acc they lost one game
in the conference. Okay, they should not care about the
conference tournament because they have bigger goals. If you're in
a conference like the Big Ten or the SEC, when
it is a dog fight every single night, you have
double digit teams in your conference, making the NC double
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a tournament that matters. If you can come out on
top in a tournament with fourteen teams who are are
are real good teams, Like you're only playing good teams
night in and night out, and you come out on
top in a great conference, that means something. That's a
banner that hangs like that it is it is. It's
not winning the whole thing, but it's a banner that hangs.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And it's so we're risking Cooper flag or name name
the player, his his health in a tournament that we all.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Care what du dude, just punt it like not not
sit sit down. I mean you have to play them comer.
Just need the revenue, I think I.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Think, Okay, well that's a different You're right, because that's
the conversation goes to the college football right, Yes, but
where where that's the only reason why they're playing.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Is because of revenue. Yes, but for this it's not
just it's revenue is.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Probably the biggest part, but it's also automatic bids matter
like it's cool when when teams make roun like Georgetown
won the Big East the other the other year after
just rallying off four or five to wins and ce
state they had no business being in the tournament. Sure
they won the ACC tournament and then make the final four.
Okaylu stories are cool. You don't have that without conference tournaments.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So again we're talking about two different teams though, or
two different perspectives here. We're talking about one duke who
is obviously a one seed, the second overall number one
seed in the tournament, have nothing to gain other than
a banner. You want to talk about something for a
program's perspective, I think it would be more valuable to
play the other guys versus your stars that you know
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you need come next week once March Madness officially gets here.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But it's still you're playing on the devil's abbot, but
you're you're learning something about your teams, you're playing on
a neutral court, you're playing, it's it's every day you're playing.
But when the tournament you're playing, you play on a
Thursday or Friday, then you play on a Saturday or Sunday,
so it's not a lot of rest you're playing on
the neutral court, fierce atmosphere, postseason basketball, like you're learning
something about your team as you go through these early
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conference tournaments to get ready for them.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You're playing it's October, you're still learning about it.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
You're skipping when you're playing in Cameron in door stadium,
or or you're playing in ACC and Viney, you're.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Playing in Charlotte. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now if it was in Greensboro, you might have me okay, And.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's another thing. Put it back in Greensboro, damn it. Yeah,
that was great when the ACC tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yes, but I still think they matter, like for Duke
if they win or lose, Duke fans.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Won't really care about about the a SEC tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
But it's a that's a unique story and unique program
because the conference is so bad this year, other conferences,
these things matters.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You're not gonna punt it.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Should this have ever crossed Shire's mind? I bet it did.
I bet it did. But it's like, again, you're not
gonna punt it because what if, what if you don't
win the whole thing or you don't make the final four,
you still would rather say we won the a CC
regular seas championship. We won the a CEC tournament. That's
something to hang out on. That's something to show boosters.
Do they really care, No, because they want you to
(16:38):
have March success in the big tournament. But it's something
to show these guys and show your fan base because
you're most teams aren't gonna win the whole thing, but
you know it is on your side. As we're watching
this electric game, arkansass Up won on Ole Miss with
the minutes ago plus four and as Y cal agrees
with you, Coach Cow.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Coach Cow, he said the other day he was like,
what do I care?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
All those years I was Kentucky, we didn't care about
winning the SEC tournament, but so we cared about cutting
down the big next.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
If you ever approached a Kentucky fan about winning the
SEC championship, what would they have done to you?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
They would laugh at Yeah, so a laughing.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Everyone's perspective is different based on your your program's history,
based on your standing in the national conversation among college
basketball fans and programs.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So everyone's different.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
For dukes in Kentucky's it may not matter for a
program like Maryland who hasn't won a national championships in
two thousand and two has been largely irrelevant for the
last few years on the national scene.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Winning the Big Ten tournament will Matt. So it's based
on each program.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I know that this will be a discussion on every
radio show, television show, and yes, I know that I
brought it up, but it joked in a joking manner
on our text message group, like, yeah, cancel conference tournaments.
I'm not saying to cancel conference tournaments that far. What
I am saying is exactly what you brought up. Thank
you for helping and make my point. With Kentucky, they
(17:55):
would never care and the SEC stunk all those years.
They would never give a damn about hanging a banner
at the SEC tournament. It was always about winning six
straight and if you did not do that, then the
season was a failure.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It was a failure.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And look, I think the all the bluebleds would probably
agree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, Duke's in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So Duke, for my money, I think Shier probably he
did have this conversation with this guys. Should we play them,
should we not get him out there? And now do
you think he's going to have a different perspective moving
forward as Duke's head coach, maybe next year in the
years to come.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's not the same, but it's similar in a way
to the end season tournament. It's not really the same
at all, actually, but here's why it's similar.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
It's similar because the whole thing with the N Season
Tournament is most of those players went out there and said,
all right, we're competing for a championship. They may not
really matter who wins the N Season Tournament, in fact,
that doesn't at all, but you're still going out there
competing for a champion. So when we get to this
bracket where it's eight teams, we're gonna give it all.
We're gonna give MAXI some effort because we're competing for
something amongst other teams and we want to be the best.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We don't care what the competition level is.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
We want to come out the best because these are
the best competitors in the world. So everyone in the
N Season Tournament who makes that eighteen bracket, those teams
were all really competing for that in season Tournament championship,
and the Bucks ended up winning.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's the same thing here.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
If you're putting a team out there and you're putting
a team out there to compete in a tournament style
competition like this one, You're going to want to compete
for the championship. You're not just gonna lay over under
any circumstance. It may not be as important, but you're
not gonna lay over. You have a team of competitors.
You want to win something. It matters. It means something.
(19:38):
Even though it's not even close to the what it
means to cut down the big nets in April at
the Final four, it still means something. And so you
want to compete because it's the best competitors in the world,
and you put them in a conference tournament chimp setting
like that, they're gonna compete.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
And then I don't think Duke will or John.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Shire will ever have a different approach where it's like,
we're not we're gonna bench our guys because we haveigger goals.
We've never seen it happen in college basketball. You're right,
never seen that happen.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
You're right. But it's a new day. It is.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
It's a whole new day. We see things constantly changing
in college You know.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Who would have done that, A guy like coach k
would have done that he would have been like, we
don't Rick Patino. Those guys would have done that. They
would have been like, we don't care about this commerce tournament.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
We have bigger goals. And they would have been right.
But but then what happens when they lose in the
Elite eight. No one's reasons, no one's remembering.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's like Saquon Barkley sitting for the final game and
not getting the two thousand or the all time leading
rushing record. If the Eagles lost the Super Bowl to
the Kansas City Chiefs, were you ever going back to that.
I know there are some blowhard idiots on our timeline
that would have Nobody cared exactly. So if they go
to the lead eight and they lose there, I don't
think anybody's going back on.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Well, this is why you should have played in that
acc But it's still like that's an individual.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Award for Saquon Barkley versus versus a team accomplished.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Very true, but in similar strokes, I would just say
we're talking about the overall. Like Cooper Flagg, I don't
have to tell you how special is he is the guy.
Maybe they should have aired on the side of caution
and just said, you know what, We're gonna give you
a little rest.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, Yeah, I could say that maybe.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Sit U versus Georgia Tech, let's sit un versus maybe
lesson his minutes, lesson his workload, lesson is minutes.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'm sure. I just today, if you use.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
The alite, I still think Look, fans are furious. Sure,
I still think it's something that you you are hanging
a banner for the regular season, a SEC championship, and
the and the conference tournament ECC championship.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's something to hang your hand on.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like when you look at coach K's resume all the time,
it lists how many final fours, how many national titles,
and then it goes to ACC tournament titles that he
has in a CC regular season, regular season titles that
he has. That is an accomplishment. It's on his resume.
It's part of what makes him great.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
So let me just say this and we'll move off
of this. Julian Needlow's gonna join us at three thirty.
We got plenty of spreads, the breakdown, sides, totals, props,
all that conference tournament action. Uh Sam is currently sweating out.
Oh yeah, you're still up by what what was a challenge? Yeah,
I guess I challenges, dude. These challenges are making me
lose my mind in sports. I I we have to
(22:09):
do something about the challenge. There's got to be a
challenge clock in every sport. I'm no longer the guy
saying just get it right. I am now the guy
saying get it right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Under raw reviews.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes, all reviews, football, basketball, looak cross wings games. I
know people they literally will go there for seven minutes.
You know, technology, it's pretty good there at the wells
Ferguson and I promise you. But at the end of
the day, I hear the ref talking to the guy
that is going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
It's just like, this is mad. I think it's important
to get it right in the last minute or two
before that. I'm with you. I like to just use
ref's discretion because before that, I don't need you to
review in the second quarter or the first half of
a game, no foul, oh one, wow, we're gonna get overtime.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So it's eighty to seventy nine, twenty seconds left, second half,
Arkansas currently up by one over old miss at this
point in time. Now we're gonna go over down has
a wager on them Hogs.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
What's the number four and a half plus plus four
and a half.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Plus four and a half? All right, why'd you back
the Hogs here today? I was impressed with them yesterday.
Obviously they blew it late.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
In that game, but I was very impressed with that
first hack yesterday. I think this team has some momentum
coming into this into this tournament, and they're also on
the bubble. Like like, I think they were pretty on
the safe side of the bubble. They were on the
right side of the bubble, but they needed a decent
tournament run. I think after yesterday they're in. No matter
what if they win today, they're one thousand percent in.
So this is a desperate, desperate tournament for them, desperate
(23:35):
times in Nashville, and I thought they were gonna come
out and pull out. I also think Ole Miss is
really overrated. Thirteen seconds left, they're gonna get the final shot.
He drives, falls, throwze it home off. We gotta file,
we gotta foul. That's a bailout call.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
How we missed that bunny from two feet out?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's a bailout call from from that We got to
see the replace thirty thousand feet up. Yeah, before the replay,
that looked like there just let him play. Uh he
did go to the ground, though, What are you calling intentional?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
They're saying as a flagrant flagrant a miss. Fans are pissed.
What did I miss it? He drives?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
He thought that travel by the way, how do you
miss that? What do you tell? What's going on here?
I don't know where the fault.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
He jumped on his own player, look at us, he
goes up, he comes down.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Where's the foul? I don't see any facts? What is
going on? What are they calling in that moment of
the game? You call a fowl?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
That?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
What?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
What am I missing? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I don't see any foul there. That was also the
happening in that pick correct, What was your call there?
It was a horrible care, horrible col I didn't have
anything in that, so I didn't really care.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Make your free throws.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Oh my god, here we go freaking it's I know
it's loud and Nasha.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Free throw number two. This is why you prove your words.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
There's sixteen organs sixteen for twenty four from the line
in the second half.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Make your free throws. It's March SEC Tournament, second round action.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Arkansas eighty Old Miss eighty Sam just needs a point
here point.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then yeah, so we don't go to they might
call a makeup call. You know that might come here
we go free throw up? Oh my godness, I want
so I bake it, make it, make it come. That's
(25:33):
final shot from the half court. Wow, what a cover coach?
Col Coach col Chris Beard an old Miss advancing. Wow,
make your free throws.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Let's go ball do live but Arkansas missing the free
throws down the stretch?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Wow? Is that white boy that came up and hit
that old miss? Coach cow by the way yesterday? Did
you see what he did?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He deserves this after the movie he pulled yesterday when
he they all was up three and he told his
player to intentionally miss the free throw with two point
five seconds left. He ended up making it. So why
in the world would you ever tell your player to
intentionally miss it? For go it for the game is
literally over. It's probably over anyway, but you have no
chance of losing it.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I think Cal gets bored. That's my honest yay.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
He says he does things different ways. It's like all right,
there's smart ways and dumb thing ways to do things.
Putting a bow on the conference tournament action. Just want
to say this, there have been since nineteen eighty forty
four national champions. Of those, forty four, thirty nine played
in conference tournaments. Of those thirty nine, thirty one won
their conference tournament. That's all well and good.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I get it, But just because you don't play your
best players doesn't mean you're going to automatically lose. And
Cooper Flag getting a day off here there again, heavy
on the revisionist history, heavy on the Thursday morning quarterback, understood,
but come on, man, we gotta be thinking a little
bit further down the road here. That's all I'm saying.
Sam Austen from the score, hell of a start here
(27:02):
on the daily ticket, nice call one, and oh on
the day.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Julian Edlos, I got news for you when we go
back with you right now.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Philadelphia seventy six ers forward Paul George is consulting with
doctors this week on treatment options for his groin and
knee injuries. Good A decision spect is expected early next week.
It could be a possible procedure. You didn't want to
hear that I didn't tell you that. At the end
of the day.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's Paul George whatever.
Not much more to say, get the treatment, shut everyone down.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We are I'm counting down the days until we call
this the season, which is April thirteenth, I think it
is the last day of regular season.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And then early May the lottery.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's that's the real super Bowl, the lottery where.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
We're gonna be hopefully landing a guy with ankle injuries,
ankle problems.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I kid, I cad. That's a good problem to have,
all right.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Julian Nedlo On the other side, Uh, fantastic ending to
old miss and ours. If you are near a computer
or your phone, whatever it may be, go ahead and
check the ending their great ballgame.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Nice work by Sam Austria on that one.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
We'll see if we can get an advantage on some
of these upcoming games or joining thatlow on the other side,
he joins us from DraftKings sportsbook.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
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