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March 5, 2025 35 mins

Welcome back to the podcast, I’m Jamie Baynes.  Today I’m happy to welcome back two of my favorite people, Johnnie Calloway, Sr. and El-Amin. As I mentioned in a previous podcast, I’m excited to have these men on as regular guests because of their attitudes about the world in which we all live. I wanted to get their opinion on how it seems as if human beings, at least in the United Sates, don’t seem capable of having civil debates, instead relying on slurs and insults to try and get their points across. A recent event that Johnnie attended, a celebration of Black History Month at The White House showcased the vitriol that abounds online. But Johnnie and El-Amin were quick to point out that online is not real. And that’s where we’ll continue the conversation. I hope you enjoy the episode.


After you listen, what’s your opinion on civil discourse in these troublesome, modern times? Do you get stressed out over all the ignorance and hatred that seems to bubble to the surface all over social media? Or, to quote Johnnie, are you too blessed to be stressed? Are you understanding of people who seem to want to cause strife and anger? I especially like El-Amin’s quote, "Hurt people try to hurt people". What do you guys think? I’d like to thank Johnnie and El-Amin for coming on the show and I hope to have them both back soon. And thank you for listening.

As always, take care of on another and do your best to make this world a better place.

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