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February 24, 2023 54 mins

In part one of a three part exploration, I am going to share what I have learned about The Scole Experimental Group. Toted as being one of the most successful investigations into the existence of life after death, The Scole Group has an intriguing case study into the world of physical mediumship that hadn’t openly been explored since the 1930’s. More than lights flickering or thumps on the walls, this group is said to have manifested a full bodied apparitions of the members of the spirit team they called the spirit scientists.

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Books to Consider:

The Scole Experiment: Scientific Evidence for Life After Death by Grant and Jane Solomon

The Scole Report by A.Ellison & D. Fontana

Web Links I found Helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qSEi_sfaSU

The Scole Experiment (skeptoid.com)

Home - Physical Mediumship International (webs.com)

About Us (thescoleexperiment.com)

Exploring Physical Mediumship - James Van Praagh

Helen Duncan - Wikipedia

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(00:05):
Quotes, I have been boxed up hida sealed up gagged bound and
hell and still the voices have come to speak their message of
life. Eternal unquote, Leslie, Flint
renowned physical medium of the 20th century.
Throughout all of Humanity's existence.
There has been the fascination with what happens to us after we

(00:26):
transition, every belief system from religion, spiritualism
designs and everything in between thinks.
It has the answer, but the fact of the matter is no one really
knows. In my own pilgrimage for the
truth of the afterlife. I have taken many roads in
exposed to a lot of different ideas and experienced some.

(00:48):
Pretty wild stuff in the work that I do.
I have personally had some strong evidence within my
professional mediumship practice, that confirms to me,
the soul, survives beyond the death of the body, but the
evidential mediumship, I practice is sacred with the
information that flows through known to be true between those
who step into my office. And what is Experience, when in

(01:10):
channeling State felt subjectively and quite difficult
scientifically validated, and that is what the
parapsychologist Paranormal Investigator.
Scientific minded and non-believers looking for, isn't
it? Tangible proof of the Beyond
something that can be experienced objectively or a
piece of evidence left behind. That can be examined further.

(01:34):
This is where the practice of physical mediumship has tried to
offer definitive proof of life beyond death.
But what exactly is physical mediumship and part one of a
three-part exploration, I'm going to share what I've learned
about the school experimental group.
Toted, as being one of the most successful investigations into
the existence of life. After death, the school group

(01:55):
has an intriguing case study into the world of physical
mediumship that hadn't openly been explored since the 1930s
more than Lights flickering or thumbs on the walls.
This group has said to have manifested full-bodied
apparitions of the members of a spirit team.
They called the spirit scientists, welcome to the dark

(02:16):
side of light work. I'm win Thornley in life.
I'm an esoteric teacher and channel to the ethers,
specializing in, demystifying the dark, art and the
Paranormal. I'm also a supernatural nerd and
do a lot of personal Research into Things That Go Bump in the
night. My fascination with the unknown
began when I was a kid. Still having my own
misunderstood psychic experiences.

(02:37):
I believe my lifelong fascination with strange and
unusual has prepared me for the work.
I'm called to do now, taking me to places other light workers
will not go. These experiences have taught me
a lot about how many fallacies we are told and actually believe
about the world of the unknown. Join me as I share with you.
What I've learned about the Realms of the Paranormal Mystics
of the past and places that might make you feel uneasy.

(02:59):
I want to lift the veil little bit and take the Hollywood out
of the Supernatural and Six. And if you like what you hear,
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(03:21):
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(03:43):
I am now ready to share some haunted field.
Trip news, my 2023 season is live and all haunted field.
Trips are open for registration.This year, I will be returning
to some powerful locations and exploring some new spots July
will be spent in Southern Alberta with two weekends carved
out for some psychic field. Work due to the popularity and

(04:04):
Powerful experience. We had in 2022.
I will be returning to Frank slide and the Hillcrest Memorial
Cemetery. Join me for a one-day Adventure.
At one of the most energeticallyprofound areas of Alberta.
I have dates available for Saturday, July 15th, or Sunday,
July, 16, 2023, your choice. On the group that you would like

(04:26):
to join on July 29th. 2023. You will find me in Fort
MacLeod. Alberta, where I was able to run
the historical a theater for three hours, to begin our day.
This should be an interesting haunted field trip as the
empress theater has a long history and stories of ghosts,
who make themselves known, this will be a day of exploring.

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The oldest Fort town in Alberta with more activities that will
help you flex your psychic senses in real world conditions.
Since we had such a magical experience in dry Island.
Buffalo Jump. Provincial Park last season.
I will be returning to close my season down there again in 2023.
This Gathering will be a connection and healing event.
Little bit different than the other haunted field trips.

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I have created a special meditation experience that will
guide you into the ancient wisdom of the land, the elements
and your ancestors. This year, I've carved out
better dates and have been guided to offer two
opportunities to gather, I will have group sessions available on
Saturday, September 30th and on Sunday, October 1st of 2023.

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In addition to these group, haunted field trips.
I have some virtual sites on my list since we're able to move
more. Freely.
These days, I am amping up my patreon community perks and will
offer several virtual hunted field trips in 2023.
Not all the locations. I want to explore our group
experienced friendly. So I'll go check them out myself

(05:53):
with my team and film a bunch ofstuff, while on-site share
exclusively with migraine patreon Community.
Some of these experiences might be live videos as well.
At this time, I have a goal to increase my community membership
to 20 patrons for this first quarter of the year.
And when I do, I will also beginhosting monthly Gatherings where

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we can explore all things, strange unusual, and paranormal
a, my community will vote on thetopics.
I'll explore. It's going to be so much fun and
I would love to have you there. If you would like to learn more
about my patreon community, please head to my show notes for
a link to consider. Okay, that's all for my other
offerings. Now on to the show, This episode

(06:40):
had a lot of moving Parts. There was a lot of digging into
books documentaries, the world wide web, and my own beliefs on
this one. Most of the information I will
offer in part. One of my exploration on the
school experiment was found in the book.
The school experiment, scientific evidence for life
after death by Grant and Jane Solomon.

(07:01):
This book was written in association with the school
experimental group. It includes a foreword by a man
named Professor author Ellison. And who I will discuss in more
detail in the second part of this episode Coles notes for
you. Professor Allison is best known
for his role as president of theSociety of cyclical research in
London. England, this group is

(07:22):
considered an authority in the field of parapsychology and
paranormal research from the book.
I then expanded my research intothe members of the school group,
physical mediumship itself and what came of the school report?
It took a lot of time to organize my thoughts over.
How to present this information.Nation, simply because there's a
lot in part 1, we're going to break down.

(07:44):
What physical mediumship is the who's what?
Where's when's and phenomena said to be experienced by the
school experimental group. There's a lot to cover.
So let's dive in, shall we? The school experimental group
was a group of like-minded folkswho are said to have conducted a
five-year case study improving definitively, that the soul

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survives beyond the death of thebody.
This group asserted that they are not affiliated with any
religious, spiritual new age, group or belief system.
They are individuals who are called upon by a group of spirit
scientists. In order to conduct experiments
that are intended to prove the theory of life after death.

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The school group was formed in the year 1992 by Robin and
Sandra Foy. Robin fouls, early years,
involve training and work as a royal Air Force pilot after his
time as a pilot, Robin went on to manage a paper company.
His wife Sandra was a homemaker both had long life interest that
lay in the world of the Paranormal physical mediumship

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specifically. They actually met each other in
a physical mediumship Circle. They both attended in Romford
Essex. The Voice went on to create
their own, physical mediumship groups, which eventually went on
to meet twice weekly. In 1991.
Robin and Sandra decides to movefrom their home.
In post Wick to school, school is a village located on the

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Norfolk Suffolk Border in the UK, Robin and sound Road, visit
school for little getaways on the weekends.
While on a few of these visits, the foyers recall being super
drawn to a Charming home with anovergrown yard, that's at within
eyesight of their favorite coachin when the time came and the
boys decided to relocate to school this home, Home was

(09:33):
available for rent. Robin Foy has said in some
interviews that this was all divinely.
Orchestrated, in a time before this life and that this home
sits on a network of Earth, energies known as Ley lines,
which will be important to note for later.
Eager to resume their physical mediumship Circle.

(09:54):
They started in post Wick, the Foie spoke to the original
members of that, Circle. All four other members were also
willing to continue and agree totravel a little further for
their weekly sessions. This travel time is about a
45-minute drive, one way, and they would carry on for another
13 months like this, The Voice set up their Cellar, their

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basement specifically, for theseweekly sessions, making sure it
was always prepared. This involved, blocking out any
natural or artificial lighting, creating comfortable seating,
and Gathering any tools. They deemed necessary for their
sessions, the group lovingly called this area of the foy's
home, the school hole, right? At the onset, the foy's in their

(10:37):
group of afterlife, Seekers would experience an increase of
physical me. IAM ship phenomenon than they
had in their post Wick location.But what exactly does that mean?
Before I go any further, I want to take the opportunity to talk
about what physical mediumship and mediumship actually is When

(11:03):
people think of mediumship thesedays, most often, the first
thing that comes to mind is someone who communicates with
the dead, whether they use cards, crystal balls or other
spiritual tools is irrelevant. But most people are unaware that
this is only one area of mediumship.
There are different levels and depths of training in the world

(11:23):
of mediumship mental, mediumshipis the style.
We are most accustomed to and mental mediumship is really an
umbrella label as are the other two that I'll get into.
But here are the basics that youneed to know mental mediumship
is where the medium or channel to the ethers passes along
messages from the other side that they decipher through their

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psychic senses. Better known in the business as
the Clare senses and I am sure you have heard me talk about.
These before. But some quick Coles notes Here
is Claire. Senses are how you experience
your psychic abilities? Are you a feeler?
See, or hear, or know our okay, that's the basics?
Mediums get really good at beingable to patch together what they

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are experiencing through these psychic senses and decipher what
spirit is trying to share biggest difference between the
development levels of a psychic and intuitive and the mediums of
the spiritual world is that those trained to the mediumship
level. Have the talent and ability to
access information through spaceand time instead of just in the

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year. And now many are born with this
as a natural gift, but I absolutely believe that we all
have the power to learn to grow our mediumship skills.
If we so choose same, as anyone can learn how to do accounting,
if you have the will you can learn how to do anything.
But just like those who are goodwith numbers, those who come by

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mediumship, naturally will also be naturally drawn to Ooh, this
line of interest and work, I want to make it clear right off
the Hop that mental mediumship is a subjective experience.
There are tools and techniques you can learn to strengthen your
confidence and connection but noone experiences the style of
mediumship 100% the same. I'll use myself as an example.

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When I'm doing my mental mediumship work, I have like
clips of movies, photos or random imagery that runs through
my inner Mind's Eye. And I somehow just seem to know
the right words, feelings, or phrases to use to validate my
client that I'm channeling the right person or experience, so
to speak. I'm not great with letters names

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dates or things like that, but many other mediums are my gifts,
lame. Being able to report back a
memory, a message, or a feeling a hip label for this kind of
channeling is evidential mediumship.
Basically, this is the ability to provide evidence of spirit
through Another person from Lifehabits or other information.

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That is only known by those close to the deceased.
In other words, other than evidential that you will hear
paired with mediumship, under the mental mediumship umbrella,
our spiritual Elemental Angelic empathic and you will often hear
people claim that they are natural-born mediums or a
generational medium among others.
I am sure everyone seems to havea special name for it.

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Mental mediumship is challengingto test scientifically because
these experiences are consideredsubjective.
Like I said, other forms of mediumship include energetic,
mediumship, and our topic of Interest today, physical
mediumship energetic, mediumshipis also something I'm very
familiar with and have included in my professional practice.

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Since the beginning energetic, mediumship can also be thought
of as energetic healing Reiki, biofield healing or any style of
Of Healing Art, that works with the chakras, Aura and Earth,
energies, to influence, or encourage balance, and Harmony
be it for a person place, animal, or Community.
Those at the top of their training and practice in this

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area of mediumship also have theability to influence energy
through space and time which is great when working with
ancestral healing past life, / Collective Consciousness work,
we're building and land curing. Out of the three umbrella
variations of mediumship physical.
Mediumship is the most rare and the least talked about this

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phenomenon is often thought as the only way to definitively
prove, a soul survives Beyond Death, by the Skeptics and the
scientific minded. And to be honest with you many
who practice physical mediumshipare unfortunately, found out to
be frauds. This has not helped in the
desire to seek validity of this practice to the General Public.

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Public. I mean, it's pretty high on the
Wu scale of impossible. If you know what I mean in
recent history, physical mediumship was known to be a
large part of the spiritualist movement in Europe and North
America. Beginning in the early 1800s
with interest, that was active, until around the late 1950s,
after that, it kind of went underground, until the 1990s

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with the school experimental group coming to the surface.
Unlike mental or energetic, mediumship, physical, mediumship
is objective. Meaning, everyone in the room is
aware of paranormal event has occurred and can describe it in
the same manner. There might even be physical
proof. He realized that can be studied

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after the session historically, physical mediumship has been
conducted in a group setting in a darkened room.
The medium is always at the headof the table and oftentimes
especially back. The day, they were confined into
a three sided box with the curtain similar to what you
would see at a public show. It was believed this box would

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assist in building and containing spiritual energy.
We lovingly call Gatherings likethis seances.
Those psychic development circles or physical mediumship
circles are the more hip to Jivewordings that we use these days?
The reason groups work far better than solo attempts at
physical, mediumship is said to be due to the accumulation of

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intentional energy required. Odd to manifest results.
Kind of like, how you will have greater success moving a car in
neutral with four people than you would with one.
It makes sense. Right.
And even by today's standards physical mediumship circles,
still take place in the dark or in a red lit, darkened room,
those who practice, physical mediumship, development will

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tell you all sessions must be conducted in the absence of
artificial and natural light dueto the damaging effect.
It has on ectoplasm that might be present during session Not
just a Hollywood invention for movies like Ghostbusters.
The belief of the legitimate existence of ectoplasm in the
Paranormal Community has been around since the late 1800s with

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the word. First coined by French
physiologist and cyclical researcher Charles, wershe one
thing. That surprised me in my research
was to learn that ectoplasm has a place outside of paranormal
jargon and is also found in cellbiology.
So it actually makes sense that a physiologist who Has an
Immunology coining. The word.

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This is what an Marine Hellman Stein PhD said about ectoplasm
in her January, 15 2020, articleon thought, co.com titled is
ectoplasm, real or fake. And I quote ectoplasm is a
defined word in science. It is used to describe the
cytoplasm of the one-celled organism the amoeba, which moves

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by extruding portions of itself and flowing into space.
Ectoplasm is the outer portion of an amoeba cytoplasm.
Well, endoplasm is the inner portion of the cytoplasm
ectoplasm is a clear gel that helps the foot or the pseudo
Podium of an amoeba change direction.
Ectoplasm changes. According to the acidity or the

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alkalinity of the fluid. The endoplasm is more watery and
contains most of the cell's structures.
So, yes ectoplasm is a real thing.
There's a supernatural, kind of ectoplasm.
The word comes from the Greek words Actos, which means outside
and plasma, which means molded or formed in reference to the

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substance said to be manifested by the physical medium.
In a trance psycho Plaza Mantella, plasm refer to the
same phenomenon although tella plasm is ectoplasm that acts at
a distance from The Medium. Ideo, plasm is ectoplasm that
molds itself into the likeness of a person.

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Unquote, for my patreon community.
I have shared some images. I found online and the dr.
Hellman Stein. Full article from thought co.com
check my show notes for a link to check that out after the
episode. Back in the 1800's, it was
believed that physical mediumship was only possible
because the medium who was the focus of the Seance had, the

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ability to allow Spirit to harvest their ectoplasm with
some sources adding that others in the room might lend to the
Harvest. Once the spirit is able to
gather enough ectoplasm, it is released through an orifice of
the body of the physical medium.Most commonly the nose mouth or
ears, though. Some old articles I read didn't
limit the exit point, to just those three.

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The Defrauded Danish medium einar Nelson was discovered to
have fake. No plasm hidden in his rectum
just as a cheeky example for you.
Once the ectoplasm had been exteriorize door brought up and
out of the body. The belief is that the spirit
would drape the translucent ectoplasm over there their Excel
or move the ectoplasm into shape.

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Making it possible for those in the Seance to experience them
physically. I know it's pretty wild stuff
right in some cases, the ectoplasm was said to be
manipulated and formed into shapes or items that would
eventually dematerialize or loseshape.
And To the source body. The group in these séances were
always cautioned to never turn on the lights in the middle of

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an ectoplasmic serialization. Many of the Paranormal sources.
I encountered believe that one of two things would happen, the
first is a very old belief and it is that the ectoplasm would
re-enter the mediums body at such a rate of speed that they
would experience physical damagefrom a burning effect around the
nose and mouth internal organ damage, or even death.

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The other belief is that light is tremendously damaging to act
Applause, mmm causing it to dematerialize in an instant.
There is another reason many physical mediums have held so
much control over the atmosphereof a seance.
I will share a little bit about one of the last physical mediums
to offer the method of ectoplasminduced physical mediumship

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publicly a little bit later in the episode actually right at
the end. Her name was Helen.
Duncan, so I'm just going to pinthat for now.
We'll come back to that. I want you to know that not all
physical mediumship, is that Fantastical, there are varying
degrees of intensity more. Commonly a seance group from the

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early days to today's development circles, might
experience tabs knocks object movement especially at the
beginning stages of their development, more advanced
develop, circles, have reported receiving a ports and a sports,
which are items that materializeor dematerialize in a me.
Idioms presence. There are also reports of

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independent, spirit voice, touchand lights, as well as table
tipping and object levitation. Any of this beginning to remind
you of another episode from earlier in my second season.
This type of phenomenon, takes atremendous amount of time,
energy, and intention, to createif even one person in your

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group, lacks confidence and belief, this can greatly impact,
the results of the session, distraction, a low vibration or
a Personal Agenda. Can also lessen the outcome, the
most successful. Physical mediumship groups have
confidence in their skills appear in tension and meet at
least once a week. Generally meet at the same time,

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same place. And with the same people as
often as possible in order to build the energy to manifest
phenomenon like this, the ritualis very, very important.
In the past, with the involvement of ectoplasm, many
mediums reported that this wouldbe exhausting work.
Letting that much energy of yourself.

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In my opinion is Pretty Recklessand we know this by case studies
involving many mediums of the past who just exhausted
themselves or let us to believe that they did.
There is a big difference with aschool group, the spirit
scientist, they were connected to help them, develop physical
phenomenon in a less invasive way.

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So now that we know all of this about mediumship, I think it's
time to go back and explore whathappened.
After the first 13 months in theschool, By January of 1993, the
school group was having lackluster results in their
weekly sessions. In the beginning, they had
sessions that included rap stopsand the start of bigger

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phenomenon and then it kind of fizzled out.
It was becoming clear that the group that The Voice have been
working with were no longer in alignment.
When the group explored, the idea of releasing some members,
there was instant agreement beginning in early 1992, many
members were finding it challenging to The effort to

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drive back and forth from post week to school twice weekly.
There are many weeks, it was Sandra and Robin alone, keeping
the school whole active, so the group decided amicably, that
their time had come to a close Robin and Sandra would continue
on alone for the first little while finally, finding some
success with a member who joinedthe group in September of 1992,

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some of the first sessions with a French business woman named
Mimi began to produce their first significant phenomenon in
a long while. This time, it was different
though. There were clicking sounds
described as being similar to the chattering noise of false
teeth. The group would later come to
know this, clicking to be the Q of one of the spirit team

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members. They would go on to work within
their physical mediumship sessions.
Soon after the inclusion of nimi, the foy's would be hosting
an event at a private residence.Sharing the wonders of physical
mediumship, when they would meetKen and his friend Burnett, it
turns out both were interested in joining the group's weekly
sessions, having some luck in the beginning.

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It wasn't long after the foy's Mimi can and Burnett again
seeing together that it became apparent that the group was not
yet, strong enough to expand their experiences, they were
having results but still seem tobe at a I'm still in December of
1992, the voice would put out anadvertisement in Regional
newspaper. Calling for new members, in an
attempt to round out the group. Diana and Alan Bennett would

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answer their add and change the whole energetic dynamics of the
school hole. Diana and Alan Bennett became
members of the school group on January 4th 1993 from that
point. They both stayed for the entire
course of the experiment until its completion.
In 1998, the Bennett's are a married couple who both

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practiced mediumship Diana. Having a professional healing
practice of her own before joining.
The circle, her husband Alan worked as a carpenter in life
but shared his interest in the unknown, with his wife outside
of work. Prior to joining the foy's, the
Bennett's would practice meditation together with the
intention to feel the spirit energies around them.

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It is said that during their meditations together strange
things would happen, lights willturn on and off sometimes.
Light bulbs would even burst. They shared that one time a
light bulb levitated, and actually flew across the room.
When the couple would meditate apart, they would experience a
low grade version of this type of activity.

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But when they were Other the energies would easily amplify.
January 4th of 1993, was the first time all seven members sat
together, it was apparent that the additions of the Bennett's
energy made the school whole more alive and vibrant.
And it was soon after this, the phenomenon would escalate at a
rapid rate. One thing that should be

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discussed is a little bit about the school groups process.
They did have a ritual, they would follow, and this is so
important in physical mediumship, and any other
metaphysical practice really. The ritual sets up the energy,
and the intention will direct the flow for the school group.
We already know that they would hold these sessions in a dark
Cellar, and they would do this twice weekly.

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And that this went on for five years.
Consistently the group would bring in specific tools for each
session over time these tools. Lived in the beginning, they had
things like a tape recorder a spirit trumpet and a device to
play music. There was always the use of one
or two of the mediums in the group for Trans mediumship.
This is. So there was a channel to convey
the messages from Spirit to the group in the early days.

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This was the role played by Robin and Saundra.
By the time, the Bennett's joined Diane and Alan took over
these roles. It was made pretty clear.
That by the time, the Bennett's arrived Sandra was no longer
interested in continuing this Wehave personal psychic
development. It was mentioned in the book
that I read. That she seemed to feel too much
pressure to perform in a group setting and wanted to step back

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from that responsibility in a quick side tangent here, for
those who do not know what transmediumship is, let me share a
little bit more about that just for a minute, according to the
author, Finley College, Essex, UK, whose website claims they
are the world's foremost collegefor the advancement of
spiritualism and psychic Sciences.

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Quote transfer occurs, when through the induction of an
altered state of consciousness. We allow the spirit world to
capture our attention or even place.
A, hold on our minds, enabling acloser blending with spirit
world. The degree of hold on, the
mediums mind will determine the quality and depth of trance.

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Trance is a very refined aspect of mediumship, which influences
our spirituality as well as our messages in mediumship.
Blending of energy between Spirit control and medium can be
so strong that the medium can lose awareness but does not fall
asleep. Unquote, trans mediumship would
fall under the umbrella of mental.

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Mediumship, it takes great practice, trust in one's
abilities, and awareness of the energies you are working with to
offer successful and safe Transit sessions.
Trance. Mediumship was reported to have
supported the school experimental group tremendously
in the early stages. When the school medium sat in

(30:13):
this trance State, the spirit scientist, they were channeling,
would take over the session. It is said they would offer
advice and detailed instructionsthrough the mediums on how to
change the room shift attendees or introduce certain equipment
to be used in a specific way to begin the sessions.
The school group would set up a session with a positive
intention creating space for connection with Spirit of the

(30:35):
highest benefit and coming from a place of love.
From there, they were instructedto play uplifting joyful music
at this was to set the ambience and raise the vibration of the
group from what I can gather there was a specific mix tape
used for each and every session over time, each song began to
usher and reliable, physical, mediumship results.

(30:57):
The tape recorder would run to capture the session for review
later and I believe, I read thatnotes were also taken.
Once the session had run, its course, the medians will come
out of trance and the Will be closed down with some type of
prayer ritual. I would kind of assumed.
It wasn't really talked about how they actually would close
down these sessions. So now we kind of get to that

(31:18):
juicy part folks. What kind of phenomenon did the
school experimental group claimed to experience?
When it comes to this part of the conversation, it could take
hours to fully unpack, all of the things that Robin Foy and

(31:39):
other Witnesses claimed happened.
Over a five-year period in the school.
This is not even including the other sites.
This group met at around the world, either, I will cover the
basics in this episode, and in no particular order, unless
stated just know that this process was Progressive and the
more incredible the phenomenon, the leader into the group's

(31:59):
five-year case study, it potentially occur.
Curd. I actually plan to expand the
conversation on the different kinds of physical mediumship
phenomenon that can be experienced within my patreon
community in some live Gatherings later this year.
Mainly, because this group pretty much experienced at all.
And there is so much to dive deeper on than this episode lens
time to. So this is the foundation of

(32:22):
what you need to know. In the beginning.
I already mentioned that there was tapping and knocks being
experienced. This would amplify shortly after
the foyer After that group members, in September of 1992,
Robin and Sandra claimed one night, after the addition of
Mimi the knocking and rocks, expanded out of the cellar, and
filled their bedroom. And for, more than one evening,

(32:45):
from what I recall, this did notdeter the couple from
continuing, if anything, it created more dedication to the
weekly gatherings, in time, Spirit lights began to appear at
First floating around the room and later interacting with the
attendees in an open session where the school group invited

(33:06):
Outsiders to experience the phenomenon, it is recorded these
Spirit lights would float close to and actually touch the
participants one woman actually had a Spirit light, enter the
body causing a calming and healing effect from what is
recorded the lights would also pay special attention to
crystals that were introduced into some of the sessions.

(33:27):
What would happen after they enter those?
Crystals would be documented in more detail in the scientific
scrutiny stage of this experiment.
It wasn't long after the lights appeared before the extended
voice phenomenon began in the past.
It is said that Spirit would Harvest ectoplasm to create a
spiritual voice box in order to amplify their voice from the

(33:48):
Beyond. Because, of course, they're in
the etheric realm. Now, they don't have body parts,
like voice boxes to project themselves through.
Like we do in human form, sometimes this voice box would
be formed inside the spirit, trumpet and broadcasted.
With the help of that item though, I haven't expanded much

(34:08):
on it. Yet the spirit team and the
school group were not using Echoplasm to create the phenomenon
that they were receiving and I will clarify all that really
soon here. But even still the group began
experiencing what they would call Energy voices or extended
voice phenomenon. And this is the experience of
hearing a disembodied voice somewhere within the room,

(34:32):
whether in the middle of the room or the corners, The room
and everybody within the room, here's the same voice and the
same words earlier, I mentioned,the school group had brought a
spirit trumpet into their sessions.
This is where an energy voice would be expected to come
through. But that certainly not what
happened for the school group Spirit trumpets have been used

(34:54):
in seances for well over 100 years.
This is a simple device usually made from a light metal like
aluminum or 10 but it is certainly not limited to this
material. Uriel sometimes you can find
them in plastic and even glass, I want you to think old-timey
speaking trumpets or bullhorns, that's kind of what they look

(35:14):
like. The spirit trumpet is expected
to behave, a few different ways during a physical mediumship
session in my tip over or even fall to the floor.
It could float around the room and touch attendees.
The spear trumpet is also thought to project the voice of
the spirit to strengthen its presence, as you will.
In the case of the school group,The Trumpet took, A while to

(35:35):
offer any sort of results with the first time it just tipping
over in the weeks to follow the trumpet would begin.
Moving around the room by an etheric hand and eventually be
used for the amplification of one of the spirit scientists
voice with success. But the use of the trumpet, with
short lift as the spirit team. Strengthened eventually the

(35:57):
school group would remove the spirit trumpet altogether.
At one point, the spirit team asks a group to add cow bells
and lights to the ceiling of thecellar and in time a ping on
those lights, would introduce Manu their gatekeeper to the
spirit world. And when a cow bell which I'm

(36:17):
this would introduce Patrick another Spirit team member So
they started to have reliable phenomenon happening with the
objects that the spirit scientists had asked the school
group to bring in. Another thing that I found very
interesting is that the school group had consistent contact
with many of these Spirit scientists, so many that in the

(36:42):
book, the school experiment, there is a section dedicated to
these spiritual scientists, the spirit team as they're called.
There's a short blurb on six to seven of the most common
players, man. You and Patrick being two of
them. It was very early in the
Bennett's rival to the school hall when the group would
receive their very first a port.Well in the dark and seller, the

(37:05):
whole group heard a clink as something.
Hit the table, they were informed from the spirit team
through trance that this would be the start of many, more
amazing things to come when the session closed down and the
lights came on. There was a Churchill crown on
the table where there was none before.
Robin Foy said he was not a Missof the Accounts of the first

(37:27):
apport being this Churchill coin, he found this to be a huge
validation for his work in physical mediumship as he
claims. He's been working with a spirit
of Winston Churchill for quite some time before the school
group even came together. There is a decent list of a
ports that apparently came through.
Some of the sessions after the appearance of the Churchill

(37:48):
Crown. The following list is just a
few, some single items that camethrough a materialized were and
Amethyst geode and two separate copies of newspapers from a
Time. Gone, by some information on
those newspapers here. The first was a copy of the
Daily Mirror. Dated December, 16 1936 and the

(38:10):
second being a copy of the DailyMail and it was dated April 1st
1944. When they first appeared it was
as if they were printed that morning.
The paper was clean and crisp Robin later.
Confirmed that the paper was a Then take to the time.
So these could not be fakes about two weeks after the

(38:31):
newspapers came through in a port session.
They yellowed? The same as they would have over
the course of 60 years. Adding further mystery to the
Paranormal event, not only were there single items reported.
There were sessions where multiple reports would appear.
The first multiple apport session brought through one

(38:52):
apport for each member of the group.
That would be Seven in total, the items included a small
pocket knife. The Hairpin 2 small spoons, a
beaded necklace that symbol and a brooch the spirit team set.
Each item would hold significance for the recipients.
And the members did confirm the connection of an apport to a

(39:14):
hobby, a life interest, or significant person in their
lives. February 14th, 1994 would be the
first of these multi-item, a port sessions.
As a form of explanation as to where these items materialized
from the school group reports that the spirit team would

(39:34):
locate items. Once lost my others in another
time, even though the abhorrencehad special significance for the
school group members, they were not actually items lost at some
point in their own lives or ancestors lives.
The belief of a ports being pulled from some sort of etheric

(39:55):
void of lost items seems to be strong in the world of the
Paranormal gurus. What I will cover.
Next is one of the most powerfulsessions of physical mediumship
phenomenon reported by the school group.
This would be what they called Patrick night.
The group had been building energy for a good while now and
the spirit team communicated that they were ready to attempt.

(40:17):
The full-body materialization ofone of the spirit team members
one calling itself. Patrick remember how earlier I
mentioned that during séances mediums would be contained in a
three sided box. The school team was asked, to
build the same type of box in anticipation for Patrick night.
When the box was ready, Patrick night would begin the group

(40:40):
gathered, as normal. And at first, they did not know
what to expect soon would appearto be Patrick's.
Apparition was able to materialize in that box set up
the group prepared. Though he was not for a long
period of time. The results for this session
were nonetheless mind-blowing, and this would not be the last
time they would experience. Full body.

(41:02):
Materialization I've briefly touched upon that.
There was a major difference in the old method of ectoplasm
extraction and the way in which the school spirit team was able
to manifest physical phenomenon in tandem with the school group,

(41:22):
what was shared by Robin flew inbooks and interviews?
Is that the spirit scientists were using three different types
of energy to manifest a physicaloutcome in the 3D realm.
The first is what they refer to as Of energy which came from the
spirit world. The second was human Spirit
energy, and the third is Earth energies.

(41:45):
The Earth energies that they speak about our what we know as
Ley lines with the Earth energies.
They are either naturally occurring on Ley lines or Vortex
points or if unavailable the spirit team creates a Gateway
within the Earth, Energy lines themselves.
Now, I'm not really too sure howpositive that is but I will
unpack how I feel about that. That in part 3 of this

(42:07):
exploration. Robin Foy has mentioned in
interviews that the home and school set on a very powerful a
line, one known as the Saint Michael a line or the Michael
and Mary, Lee Line. This bit of information, led me
on a search to find out if this was, in fact, true.
So, I did come across some maps that I will share with my

(42:27):
patreon community. That outlines exactly where this
ley-line is said to flow throughand I will share where about
school is in relation to this ley-line.
One of the Straws or interest tocome out of the school hole
above and beyond everything. I've already talked about was
there evidence of alleged spiritual photography from what

(42:50):
the school group, shared the combination of spirit human and
Earth energies would allow the spiritual scientist to manifest
some pretty wild stuff on film. Spirit photography has been
around. As long as cameras have been be

(43:12):
it. Orbs missed figures in the
background or what appears to bea full-bodied Apparition Spirit.
Photography is also highly debated as being authentic, the
reason being is that technical issues and trickery and
photography have also been around as long as cameras have

(43:32):
lens flare movement, while taking the image odd.
That's perspective, the stints, X and pareidolia are the major
factors to consider when ruling out legit spirit ography with
lens flares being the most common.
This is identifiable by the bluey-green E, orbs of light
that you see in your mobile phone images.

(43:54):
As an example though, others like to say dust and bugs are
second on the list. I don't think enough people are
talking about pareidolia. So what is pareidolia?
Pareidolia is Where we can see something in a photo or video
but our brains cannot quite makesense of it.
Our brains will then try to match this Oddity to something.

(44:15):
We know from the past many times, our brain will create
faces or items where they are just shadows.
And if it's a little bit spooky than Kabam demon in the couch,
cushions know what I'm talking about.
Makes sense right? Oftentimes, someone else is
pareidolia will influence othersto see the exact same thing

(44:37):
because most often the original viewer points out exactly, where
you should be looking and exactly what you should be.
Seeing you can bear witness to this and all of those fake
paranormal videos out there today.
I don't even want to get startedon how easy it is to digitally.
Enhance a photo or video these days either.
Trust me when I say that it takes some pretty perfect

(44:59):
conditions to Spirit energy on film or digitally.
So, I asked you, when you see these paranormal videos or
photos online check-in to see ifit feels real.
The spirit photography that the school group came out with was
nothing like anyone had seen before to start this phenomenon,

(45:21):
the group was asked by the spirit team to bring a camera
into the sessions. The mediums were initially
instructed to snap pictures whenever they were told to, by
the spirit team. It wasn't long before the
cameras would appear to take thephotos themselves and begin to
float around the room to start. The image is produced were of
already existing images taken throughout history.

(45:43):
Kind of like the up horts. There was a grainy image of Sir
Arthur Conan Doyle. Yes, he was an author but he was
also an avid occult student and a Golden Dawn member.
Another famous image produced was of the st.
Paul's Cathedral taken during the Blitz and there was many

(46:04):
more of the like, more people, more places and the spirit team
would say that these were taken from images that were already
existing these images would evolve To psychedelic lava lamp
like imagery with faces forming.In the bubbles, the faces that
formed within the abstract images were set to be of spirit

(46:27):
team members soon, the school group would find their
undeveloped film with written, passages, from ancient Indian
texts. The spirit team would begin
these experiments with film by asking the school group to bring
in a variety. Several different kinds of
Polaroid films were used from the classic four by six Polaroid
that we all know and love to the35 millimeter and a few in

(46:50):
between The foy's Bennett's and other group members, swear these
images were all obtained in the school hole and were created by
the spirit team members. The school group was requested
by the spirit team to create a container from wood and glass
that the film was to be placed within.
And this was done for a couple of reasons.

(47:11):
The first was to show that the group members were not tinkering
or interfering with the film themselves, but it was also to
build spiritual energy needed toexpose the film spiritual
images. At first, any photo paper or
film was to be laid out flat, but after the creation of the
glass and wood container, the spirit team, would build up the

(47:32):
energy to eventually be able to manipulate a 35-millimeter roll
of film. Without it ever being taken out
of the canister, the foy's wouldeven talk to Polaroid about the
results they receive during the sessions as an example.
You know, the regular old instant Polaroid film.
This is the same film that was used in the school hall at some
point to be Begin with the team.Wasn't sure how to develop a

(47:56):
film after the session. If you don't know how that
instant film and special camera works, is that the developing
chemicals are already contained within the film packet, when the
photo is taken, the film is exposed to light through the
lens and as it's being pushed out of the camera, this
activates the developing chemicals and voila your images

(48:17):
appear slowly but surely At first, the school group was
trying other methods to try to develop this film, like heavy
rolling pins and bars being ruled over the film with little
to no result. Then they figured why not use
the camera as intended. So after a session of the
Polaroid film laying out on the table, in the school whole the

(48:38):
Polaroid film was put back into the camera.
Still in the dark mind you and apicture was taken but with the
lens cap on. So not to expose the film to any
light, the camera would then spit out the On paper, as normal
activating, the developing chemicals, and all of a sudden,
the school group was seeing a dreamy flowing, colors of
Greens. On some film paper and blues on

(49:01):
others. When Robin Foy presented, this
evidence to Polaroid. He said that they're experts
could not explain those results after this connection Polaroid
would begin working with the school Group by providing
different sizes, of paper, and guidance on how to use their
home film processing machine with it.
He's? You might be asking yourself

(49:29):
where there any Skeptics were Challengers of this experiment
into physical mediumship. The school group would be under
some serious scrutiny from the parapsychology and paranormal
Community alike in part 2 of my exploration of the school
experiment. I will talk about the school
report and what the community has to say about Robin Foy and
his claims of physical mediumship, the highly respected

(49:52):
Society of psychical research, joined the school group for two.
Years of gatherings resulting intheir lengthy and thorough
school report, I will share withtheir report revealed and what
others in the Paranormal Community have to say.
In part 3, I will share my thoughts about this
groundbreaking experiment, into the survival of the Soul, beyond

(50:13):
death. And what I believe might be
happening here, I am already working on these episodes.
So watch for part two to drop here soon with part 3, being
released as a bonus episode for my I own Community, but before I
let you go, I want to go back tohell.
And Duncan, remember, I pin thisconversation earlier Helen

(50:36):
Duncan was a famous, Scottish medium.
Well, known from the 1930s to about the 1950s.
She was one of the last documented mediums to famously
include ectoplasm in her physical mediumship
demonstrations. She is also the last known
medium to be imprisoned under the Witchcraft Act of 1735 for

(50:56):
her. A fraudulent claims earlier, I
mentioned how it was stressed. How incredibly dangerous it was
to turn on the lights during a séance that produced ectoplasm.
The work of Helen Duncan would highlight the more Sinister
reason. Why control the atmosphere was
so important. Helen Duncan was found out as

(51:19):
using cheesecloth and plaster dummies to make others believe
she was Conjuring spirit. Pretty easy to disguise this in
an almost pitch black room, right?
Her fraud was actually revealed in Flash photography, which I'm
going to share these images withmy community and her ectoplasm

(51:39):
was tested revealing, it as cheesecloth.
Duncan was not the only so-called physical medium to use
these materials or tactics either besides cloaking the
medium and their fraudulent ectoplasm and such the three
side. Did box was also used to help
hide helpers of the charlatans the helpers would sneak around

(52:01):
the darkened room tipping, tables, reflecting light or
touching blowing on or Whispering at the attendees.
The helpers would also help manipulate the quote and quote
ectoplasm. The reason physical mediumship
demonstrations diminished by the1950s is because technology got
better and people got wiser and way more Discerning.

(52:22):
It was much more challenging to trick the public and to be
honest, physical medium. The ship does not get the
attention it deserves because ofall the fraudsters of the past,
Popeye for part 2 and I will explore.
If this type of mediumship, is even possible and what the
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(52:47):
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