The Data Diva E235 - Carly Kind and Debbie Reynolds

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In this episode of The Data Diva Talks Privacy, Debbie Reynolds welcomes Carly Kind, the Australian Privacy Commissioner at the Office of the Australian Information Commissioner. Carly shares her remarkable journey from a career in criminal defense law and human rights advocacy to becoming one of the leading voices in global privacy regulation. She discusses her early exposure to privacy issues through work at the UN and NGOs such as Privacy International and the Ada Lovelace Institute, where she focused on the intersection of technology, human rights, and AI governance.

Debbie and Carly explore the philosophical and practical dimensions of privacy, touching on its roots in human dignity, autonomy, and democracy. Carly challenges the often-framed conflict between privacy and innovation, arguing that strong privacy protections foster trust and are essential for societal progress and sustainable technological development. She also shares her insights as a regulator, describing the complex and often resource-intensive reality of enforcing privacy laws and ensuring compliance across a wide spectrum of entities.

The conversation then turns to pressing global concerns, particularly the privacy implications of artificial intelligence, including the erosion of purpose limitation principles and the growing dominance of data-rich tech companies. Carly raises important concerns about biometric surveillance, data exploitation in real estate and credit sectors, and the widespread tracking of individuals’ digital behavior.

One of the focal points of the discussion is Australia’s Social Media Minimum Age Act, which mandates a ban on children under 16 using social media platforms. Carly reflects on the privacy risks of increased identity verification, the evolving nature of the internet, and the unintended consequences of well-intentioned regulation. She also discusses the importance of advancing children’s online privacy rights through robust regulatory codes.

In closing, Carly shares her vision for a more equitable digital future. She emphasizes the need for public reconnection with the foundational values of privacy, calls for a rebalancing of power in the digital ecosystem, and advocates for genuine consumer choice and competitive digital markets. This thought-provoking conversation offers a nuanced look at the global state of privacy, regulation, and the future of human rights in the digital age.

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