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December 9, 2025 β€’ 44 mins

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In Episode 266 of The Data Diva Talks Privacy Podcast, Debbie Reynolds, The Data Diva, talks to Matthew Kay, Group Data Protection Officer at Shawbrook. Their discussion centers on pragmatic data protection, responsible governance, and the realities of advising organizations that are rapidly scaling or adopting emerging technologies. Matthew explains why trust-building, timing, and understanding the business context are essential for privacy professionals seeking to drive meaningful change.

Debbie and Matthew explore the challenges created by fast-moving artificial intelligence adoption, including transparency gaps, organizational pressures to automate, and the difficulty of maintaining meaningful oversight as data processing grows more complex. Matthew describes how privacy professionals can enable innovation by identifying mitigations early, embedding privacy by design, and guiding business leaders toward safe, sustainable data use. They also discuss why effective data protection requires risk balancing rather than rigid absolutism, and how credibility and constructive engagement support long term compliance.

Their conversation concludes with a focus on the future of data management and the importance of ongoing stewardship. Matthew reflects on the parallels between data governance in everyday life and large corporate environments, emphasizing continuous organization, monitoring, and clarity of purpose. Debbie and Matthew highlight why global communities benefit from sharing best practices across jurisdictions and how pragmatic, human-centered governance helps strengthen trust and resilience in a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

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