December 10, 2024 • 41 mins
Join Allison DuBois and Joe as they delve into the heartwarming and mystical realm of Christmas miracles and the connections we maintain with our loved ones who have passed. The episode features inspiring stories from listeners, highlighting the profound ways that spirits continue to engage with the living during the holiday season. Allison addresses a listener's poignant question about the nature of the afterlife and explains why spirits remain present in our lives, emphasizing their desire to support and uplift us. The discussion also touches on the intersection of science and spirituality, revealing how both perspectives can coexist and validate one another. Tune in for an exploration of how the dead enrich our lives with humor and love, reminding us that they are never truly gone.
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Ye Networks.
Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAllison Dubois.
On today's episode of the DeadLife, we'll be hearing from listeners
who have inspiring Christmasstories to share with us all.
Since December is that time ofyear that we have a little more family
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time and merriment sprinkledwith Christmas miracles, it seems
only right that this month myepisodes should reflect that sentiment.
We'll also be hearing from alistener who has questions about
whether or not Joe'sscientific world and my spiritual
world are in sync or collide.
This one's a little more grinchy.
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You can find me on Instagramat medium, Allison.
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Check out my new streetastrology channel on YouTube.
I'm coming to Dallas, Texas,Scottsdale, Arizona and Nashville,
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For ticket information, go toallisondebois.com if you have questions
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about the afterlife for me,you can call me and leave me a short
message at 802-D-E a D811.
Well, Joe, thank you onceagain for coming in.
It's so nice in December.
I can be a little bit more,you know, in house and I don't, I
don't have to have strangersas my guests.
I can have my husband.
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Right?
And you.
And you bake those wonderfulcookies and the house smells like
cranberry chocolate chip.
Well, you're a lucky man.
What can I say?
I love the cookies, but I alsolove how you worked in the word grinchy.
It wouldn't be Christmaswithout a little.
That I know.
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So it's just, it's.
And I'm sure that all peopleof science minds are very nice, but
when we talk about things thatare more magical and Christmas miracles
on a spiritual level, you guyssound a little grinchy.
So who are we starting with?
Oh, okay.
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So, yes, we're going to startoff with a question.
You know, we're going to save the.
We have a few of those storiesthat people called in with that were
like, Christmas, like, really,really Christmassy.
They're really special.
We listen to them.
So we're going to save thosetill the end.
We're going to start off, weget some of these other ones out
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of the way first.
Yes, we want to give you anice bedtime story.
So we'll save those for theend and start off with the more difficult
questions.
Hi, Allison, I have a fewquestions about the afterlife.
After listening to you for along time on your show, you say that
our loved Ones are constantlyaround us and that they want us to
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know that, quote, we are their heaven.
So to me, hanging around andwatching the living does not seem
very heaven.
Like, we have so many problemshere on earth.
If the dead have to watch usendure all our problems and try to
help us with these problems,how is that much of a heaven?
Okay, so I've actually talkedabout this in my books, but, I mean,
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I'm happy to answer this as arefresh for everyone.
Now, if a dead person, aspirit, somebody who is the best
version of themselves after alifetime lived, the essence that's
left is basically on spiritual steroids.
It sees everything.
It feels in high definition,what life is, the ripple effects
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of the mistakes they made, thepeople they hurt, if any.
And the good stuff is sort ofhighlighted for them and celebrated
energetically.
And what I mean by that isthey get to walk through it as if
it's happening for the firsttime all over again as a sort of
well done.
Your energy was on a highfrequency in the living world.
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Congratulations.
Now she has a valid point.
You know, sounds a lot ofpeople watch the news, turn it off.
Because it's important to be informed.
Yes, true, but, you know,shows like the View and stuff, I'm
just saying, Grinches, like,who wants to hear it?
A lot of things ratchet up thestress level.
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And it does to step back.
But she's also.
She's also measuring spiritualexperiences that these souls have
had in the physical world byphysical world, living people's thought
process.
And we're not as enlightenedas we are when we cross.
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So you can't really, from herperspective, maybe you would see
only the negative in the world.
And they're not here to watchthe news with you or to wait to watch
daytime television.
They're here to see the chaosof you with your toddlers in the
backseat of the car.
And they're recognizing howbeautiful a moment that is.
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Because children grow up andthey don't need us as much anymore.
We don't get the hugs and, youknow, savor these moments.
The chaos is the beauty.
They teach us these lessonsthat they learned, and that's what
they stick around for.
Telling their grown daughterto take a break and to be good to
herself and to take time tocross some things off of her bucket
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list while she's living andnot work so hard.
Because in the end, althoughthere are some spirits, they'll say
they go to work with their sonor their daughter because they were
maybe a hard worker orworkaholic themselves.
They go because of their sonor daughter, you know, to help them
and also to teach them lessons.
Whisper in their ear.
And I kind of.
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I thought about that.
If you think about when wewent to all those recitals with our
children were young, thestress involved with the.
Oh, I know.
Losing a glove that, you know,you need two gloves when you perform
and things like that, or a hator a belt that has the costume, all
that stress.
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And you think, why would theywant to relive that stress?
No, no, no.
It's the next moment when theparents are crying because their
little, you know, their littleangel is performing and they're just
so proud.
Disneyland in a parade andshe's shining.
You know, that's the moment.
Or the parent saves the dayand steals another kid's.
I'm kidding.
When the parent saves the dayand finds that other glove or that
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toy hat that they need toperform in.
Right, right.
And the child feels loved.
Those moments.
And those.
Those stories might soundawfully specific because they happened.
Yeah, they happened to us.
We had a couple of dancers.
But absolutely, there's thestruggle, but then there's the reward,
and that's what you get.
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I mean, you can't have thereward without the struggle.
Right.
The things that we see as uglyin this world are truly ugly.
Oh, yeah.
So there's no mistaking that.
It's what helps.
Gives us.
Give us some contrast of what.
What we have to spend ourdays, weeks and months doing.
You can spend 12 hours a daywatching the news, seeing how horrible
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everything is, which it was 40years ago.
When people were watching thenews, they were saying the same thing.
You know, gas prices are high, inflation.
And yeah, it is terrible.
It's terrible.
But that's not what we're hereto learn.
We're here to learn the soullevel lessons, including when you
have that last $20 and yougive two of those dollars to somebody
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who didn't have anything toeat that day, and you share that
moment that becomes a part ofyou and you sort of become a part
of the person that you helped.
It's an energy thing.
And even.
Even you watch TV shows likethe Waltons.
It happened during the Depression.
It was terrible times.
Yeah, during, During, Right,during the depression in the 1930s.
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That's what the show set in.
But that's.
I mean, you watch it, you'dwatch every episode.
Because I had never seen it,and I watched it in Covid and I looked
forward to it every day.
Right.
And it wasn't.
I mean, were you relivingtheir struggles?
Well, a little bit, butthey're, they're.
You know, they made it throughthose struggles.
Yeah.
And it brought them closer.
They knew what it felt like tonot have a lot of clothes or a lot
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of food and to have strife.
And sometimes we need to have that.
And I think in this time, it'sreally weird because you see the
younger generations and theircredit cards, and we already.
Come on, we already learnedthat lesson with Gen X.
Don't go down that path andmax them out.
Living beyond your means, youknow, it's.
It's the lessons you'relearning spiritually.
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But if people don't havestrife because they're not experiencing
it yet, because they'refloating on credit, they're not really
going to experience it quiteat the point that they're at.
So it just depends on whereevery individual is in the moment.
But an answer to her question.
They're not here to witnessthe bad stuff.
They're here to focus on theperson they love and intervene if
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they need to on your behalf,if it's in their power to do so,
to either save you, guide you,inspire you, lift you up when you
need it, give you their energy.
They're here for us.
But they do enjoy watching thechaos of life.
And by chaos, I don't mean theugly part of life.
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I mean the beauty in themoments that we don't see it when
they're happening, but laterwhen we die, we recognize that those
were.
That's what it was all about.
And it was so special.
And it doesn't get better than that.
All those birthday parties weplanned and executed and the cakes
and worrying about everythinggoing just right.
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And what if one of theirfriends doesn't show up?
And are they going to be happy?
When you're on the other side,the stress isn't there.
You're just reliving that day,you know, with the child and feeling
how loved they felt becauseyou had that party for them.
And so at the time, in thisphysical world, we do get bogged
down in things that areunimportant in the end.
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So the.
The spirits that have passedaren't on that level.
They're above that.
So when they're visiting us, they're.
They're emotionally tied tous, not intellect tied to us, which
would be more of what she'sthinking with the ugliness that she
speaks of.
For instance, you know,whatever anybody's position on anything
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is, you know, we're in sort of a.
Sort of a.
You know, recession right now.
I mean, money's been a lottighter for everybody and it's a
hard time and you must feelfor everyone.
But these spirits are seeingit on an individual level.
You know, the person thatthey're there to help on, that person.
They don't try and look at thebigger picture of the totality of
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everybody and the populationon earth.
You know, peace on earth is anice thought.
It hasn't happened not in along time.
So, you know, be in the now.
Live in your day, in yourdays, in minutes.
Even last week I had, youknow, I work, I do a lot of readings.
I deal with a lot of death.
So what I did for my lunchbreak is I made cranberry chocolate
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chip cookies.
I watched the Grinch and Elf.
I made some hot chocolate witha double shot of whipped cream and
I enjoyed myself by myself.
And you know what?
It was wonderful.
And I lived in that Christmasmoment and banked it in my moments
of heaven that I just happenedto decide I wanted to create one
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on that day and I did.
So it's a lot of it's in ourpower to do so.
And it's about rising abovewhat is the totality of darkness
or greed in the world.
And it has more to do with anindividual moment of bliss.
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So take your moments of blissand the dead will enjoy those with
you.
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All right, so we're going tomove on to Bridget from Georgia.
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And this is the science question.
Okay, Big question.
I want to prepare everybody,but I also want to ask you.
So you're going to be myguardrails if I start getting too
scientific.
Triple air sign?
You bet.
I will wrangle you.
Wrangle me right in.
I will.
All right, here we go.
Hey, guys, this is Bridgetfrom Georgia.
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I have a question for both of you.
I'm a teacher in high schooland I have taught science, I've taught
literature.
And I'm wondering, since Joehas a science background and a physics
knowledge of physics, I'mcurious to know if his education
and what he has learnedconflicts or actually reinforces
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what you, Allison, believe spiritually.
Like, do y'all ever butt headson what's possible and not possible
based on the laws of energy?
Or do Yalls beliefs insteadvalidate each other?
Thanks, guys.
I'll let you start.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, it's.
It is a really, really big question.
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One of the biggest questionsreally, when you first.
To answer part of her question.
No, we don't butt heads.
We've.
We've actually all.
We've.
Through the years we've beentogether, there's always been agreement
on what you did.
I was super curious when itfirst happened.
Like, what is it that youactually do?
You are very open minded and.
But I was open minded, as I think.
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And I think a lot of it comes.
I think people misunderstandwhat science is and misunderstand
what spirituality is.
And so what they don't know,they'll make up.
And so they say, well, ascientist couldn't possibly believe
in spirituality because it'snot an energy.
And it's like, well, but youcan actually.
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Spirituality is an energy.
Souls are energy.
Well, you refer to it asenergy often and you'll refer to
it as frequency.
But it's not one that we'vebeen able to measure so much with
an instrument, but you measureit with.
You feel it that way.
And that's the best words weuse to describe it.
There's been plenty of.
You've taken plenty of testsat universities and you've scored
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very, very high.
I was going to say theystudied me for four years and they.
It was undeniable.
Oh, sure.
But take our brain waves.
Take like when I was pregnant,I would faint and they gave me an
MRI and I had epileptic pulseslike in my brain.
But I don't have epilepsy.
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And the chief neurosurgeondidn't Know what to say.
Right.
He said, if it doesn't go awayafter the baby's born, come back.
But I've run every test onyou, and you're perfectly healthy.
So I think.
I think souls may be beyond measurement.
And I think that people lookat scientists as people who should
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have all the answers, butthat's too much to put on humans
to expect them to have all the answers.
Right.
Well, and the good scientiststhat I know, they know what they
know and they know what theydon't know.
And that's why they don't everweigh in on spirituality, because
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they're physicists, they knowabout physics, and that's what they
know about.
But I think it goes.
The question in science thatthey haven't answered is, what is
consciousness?
What is free will?
Because they had to kind ofmake a bargain with the church when
science started that they willonly deal with what's called deterministic
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things.
So things that, you know, aplus B equals C, there's no choice
in there.
And then the church carriesall the things have to do with choices,
free will.
And science seems to havetried to take over the church, though.
Well, and I think it's natural.
Some people have replaced thechurch with science and they treat
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it like a church, but it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
But that the whole.
The whole question of freewill, I mean, we, we and some.
Can I.
Can I ask you a question about physics?
Because she was talking aboutthat this would.
Energy cannot be destroyed.
Right.
Nor created.
Right.
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But it can be transformed.
So that's actually out of thelaws of physics.
So if our body dies and thatenergy source, that is us, our personality,
our experiences, all of thatcan't be destroyed.
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Okay, here's something that'llblow your mind.
Oh, I can't wait.
I was just reading an article,and they.
There are cases where people,either through illness or surgery
or accidents, lose a goodportion of their brain, like 75%
of it.
And they still have their personality.
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They're.
They're basically fine.
Well, clearly your brain isnot your soul.
Right.
But then some people are goingto say some people get brain damage
and it changes their personality.
But that doesn't, you know, Imean, that's hard.
Well, it does.
And things can change yourpersonality and chemical.
You can have chemicalimbalances that change your personality
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and all kinds of things.
Right.
All it is, is it's a big mystery.
We don't know the connectionof the soul and the.
And even the idea of a Souland a body being separate is.
Okay.
I went through test after testafter test with scientists where
they put, they eliminatedevery option, every argument that
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could be made for what I was.
And in the end the last twotheories standing were the super
psi theory and that I was justtalking to the dead.
Which is the most plausible,it's the most obvious is usually
the answer.
So it's called Oxum's razor.
It's another science.
Oh, fantastic.
Very sexy.
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So anyways, anyways.
So when the super psi theoryis that there are pockets of energy
out there that I'm justtapping into and reading.
Okay, that would be kind of amazing.
Anyways, Right, right.
We already down to the twochoices you.
Right.
We already eliminated whetheror not I was inferring anything by
looking at the person, whetherthey're wearing a ring, blah blah
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blah, because they're on the phone.
So I don't know who thisperson is.
And so they'd record those,those tests and then publish them
in academic journals.
Check my information.
You did a test where you readfor a person but you didn't get to
talk to them directly.
There's a person in themiddle, right?
I mean, yeah, they took careof all these things.
So you're either psychic oryou're medium.
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I'm both.
No, I know, but what I meantis they couldn't, they couldn't scientifically
decide which one it was.
Well, they had to eliminate that.
I was just reading people's minds.
It's like, do you hear whatyou're saying?
You're scientists and Aaronthinks you're great and I might just
be reading people's minds.
That's kind of amazing.
But we were able to eliminatethat theory because the person that
I read had to validate some ofthe information that the dead gave
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me because they didn't havethe answer.
And they were able to validatethat what the dead told me was true.
So we eliminated every theoryleft standing with 2.
Science has tried to measureit and I think a wise scientist will
admit they don't have all the answers.
It's the ones with a sciencebackground that think that.
And they have a bit of a Godcomplex that think that spiritualists
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are somehow dumber than themor less than them because we're of
spiritual nature.
And actually on many levelswe're stronger and more evolved than
they are because we're not asshort sighted.
We're open to the fact that wedon't have all the answers.
We only know our ownexperiences that we can share and
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we do.
But there are a lot ofscientists out there that really
are people that don't believein life after death.
And I'm fine with that.
Just don't push your beliefson me.
I'm not trying to put mine on you.
Right.
And those.
Their opinions in that arejust that, their beliefs, because
they're often based.
Well, first off, they'redeciding what they think you do,
which is usually differentthan what you actually do.
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Right.
And then the other thing isthey usually suffer from something
where, like ego, their parentsdidn't love them or something that.
Yeah, that's a big one.
They weren't held as children.
And so you've got to find ahealthy mind, which I think is why
people want to hear it from you.
Because anybody with anyability whatsoever that hears your
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voice and hears you talkingknows you're a good guy, you know,
and you just give it straight.
And I'd like to also say tothe academics, I too graduated from
college and some of thedumbest people I've ever met have
college degrees.
So don't assume becausethey've got some credentials out
there that they have all the answers.
And think for yourself.
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Be a free thinker, people.
Yeah.
So as far as Bridget, our highschool teacher, goes, I guess the
answer is, I believe there'san entanglement theory that eventually
will lead to explaining or atleast bringing us to the same place
that what you're trying tomeasure and what our energy experiences
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are will coincide somehow.
Yeah.
And they're finding more andmore the smaller and smaller scale,
like smaller than atoms.
When you get down in thatrange, things act very strange and
probably closer to emotionalthan they do physical.
And perhaps we'll see it there.
The other one is in chaostheory, it's a maths theory that
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just.
That very small effects canlead to very big effects.
Like the butterfly effect.
That's exactly the best way toput it.
Our personality could be aseries of those little effects.
So that.
Yes, if the body's not there,it doesn't mean those effects have
stopped.
Right.
They're still vibrating in theuniverse and it's a matter of collecting
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them up.
How many hospice nurses havewe talked to that are there at the
moment of passing and theyactually see something leave the
body?
There's an essence anyways.
I would love to try to learn,to try to explain that maybe that
would turn into a degree ofsome sort.
I think that would be afantastic thesis.
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But suffice it to say Alisonhas been tested and there's no doubt
what she's doing is real.
So whether we have a theory ofhow it works, it doesn't matter.
We know it's real.
Yeah.
I mean, once you've seen itover and over again for my lifetime,
I only have my own referenceto go by, but I've also seen other
people who are mediums do itthat are really great at it as well.
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And I've seen children do it.
I just think it's the mosthuman thing.
And to not.
For me it's such.
It's a further leap to notbelieve in life after death.
To me, that's just insane tonot believe in life after death.
So it's perspective.
But I hope on some level weanswered Bridget's question.
Let's go on to the merriment.
Yay.
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Now for Ellen.
Hi Allison, it's Ellen Snelling.
I saw you recently in Chicago.
I have a great holiday story.
My brother John and I playedping pong incessantly as children.
He committed suicide in 2003.
In 2013, I ended my 30 yearmarriage and got a home on my own,
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which was in November.
So for Christmas, I bought my12 year old son a ping pong table.
When I went to pick up theping pong table which I ordered on
Ryan ship to store, I was toldtwice that it was paid for.
It was over $300 and I didn'thave to pay for it.
In my head I said asking twiceas in ceiling.
Right away I knew it was Jen.
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My brother in law and mynephew assembled a ping pong table
in my basement.
And they had to hold it uplengthways and raised a ceiling tile
to clear it.
And a ping pong ball fell outof the ceiling tile.
There was about 15 ceilingtiles in that room.
Again, I knew it was mybrother John.
About a week later, my kidswho were 12 and 14 at the time, were
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playing ping pong.
They heard someone who theythought was me come down the basement
stairs and they saw a figurewalk by which they thought was me.
And they said hello to me, butI was upstairs in the kitchen.
When they realized that I wasupstairs in the kitchen, they freaked
out and they ran up the stairslike three at a time.
For years after that, theywouldn't go to the basement by themselves.
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They would always have to havethe other one go with them.
So that is my beautiful pingpong table store.
I will have that ping pongtable forever.
And my brother John has livedin my home since I moved here.
Hope to talk to you again.
Have a great holiday Bye.
Bye.
Thank you, Ellen, for sharingthat completely moving and electric
story.
I love it.
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Yeah, that's a great story.
Uncle John found a way to givehis nephews or nieces and nephews
what, whatever it shall be, aChristmas present or a gift of some
sort.
I think that's really special,what he.
Enjoyed as a, as a kid.
So, of course.
And then the ping pong ballfalling out of the ceiling.
Well, and Ellen, if she wasgoing through all of that emotional
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dread, going through a divorceafter 30 years, maybe he was trying
to keep the kids busy sothey'd leave her alone.
Right.
So that she could heal.
And.
Yeah, the beginning of thatstory after we, you know, we've been
promoting this great Christmas story.
And I mean, she went through.
She went through hell.
And it was like, are you sure?
It's a great story, but.
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No, it's a great story.
Her brother came through for her.
Yeah.
And these are the stories welove to hear.
So if any of you have your ownstory, you know, definitely call
in and share it.
Tis the season.
Oh, I know.
And that's 802d e a D811.
If you want to call in withyour story.
Go ahead.
The.
Them running up the stepsthree at a time reminds me of when
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our daughter was filming withher friend.
And the door to the bathroom,which was in.
In the view of the camera, closed.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, there wasnobody in the bathroom.
Right.
Yeah.
That was amazing.
And it scared the hell out of her.
And I heard two girls comedown this.
Running down the stairs,scream at the top of their lungs
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and they're like, go in there.
I'm like, what do you thinkthe ghost is going to do to me?
Like, I'm pretty safe.
It's all right.
Let me go have a chat and I'lllet you know what's up.
So her.
Her brother Uncle John is inthe house and with her.
I think people might have questions.
One, how can I invite mybrother to be in the house?
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And two, like, if I move, doeshe move with me or does he stay in
the house?
Like, people worry about that.
If they move, will that personnot go with them?
And I often have the deceasedcome through and say, you need to
move.
Especially when it's a spousethat passed or a child that died
of fentanyl overdose orsuicide, they feel like the mother,
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sort of the room that'senshrined to the deceased is acting
as a cancer to their motherand eating away at her.
Now, some parents, it actuallyhelps them through it and that's
for each individual to decidewhat works for them.
But I do have a lot ofdeceased husbands or wives coming
through saying, you've got to move.
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You've got to start the next chapter.
I'll go with you.
You know, you're movingtowards me.
I'm moving towards that daywith you.
I'm not going to leave your life.
But you can't stay in theenergy of this house anymore because
it's all a death energy, oreverything reminds you of that person
and you need something freshso your brain can function and on
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different levels without onlysuffering and grieving constantly,
you know, so, yeah, that's you.
You've said before that whenpeople ask you about a haunted house
and you say, well, every houseis haunted because you see.
I mean, you see spirits everywhere.
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They're connected to us,usually not the house.
So we're haunted people then,aren't we?
Right.
But you do seem to likesometimes it's ours, but it's usually
the people.
We live in the desert, and Ithink you kind of like the desert
because it's a little less crowded.
Yeah, well, I.
Now it's more crowded.
Oh, my gosh.
Don't even get me started.
Everybody go home.
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Go home.
No.
So let's go to the next caller.
Hi, Allison.
This is Dee, South Carolinawanted to call in and tell you about
a holiday magic story of mybrother who passed away the day after
Thanksgiving in 2018.
He loved Christmas and the daythat he passed away, and we were
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waiting for his body to be taken.
I pulled one of his socks offof his foot because I just wanted
to keep something thatbelonged to him.
Two months after he passedaway, I had a visitation from him
in a dream.
And we were coming back from aconcert, and he was sitting in his
hotel room.
And as I was walking by, I sawhim and I said, caleb, what are you
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doing?
He says, oh, nothing.
And he had a box in his hand,and he hid it behind his back.
I said, let me see it.
He goes, oh, no, you wouldn'tbe interested in that.
I said, yes, I would.
Let me see it.
And so I grabbed the box fromhim, and when I opened the lid, there
was one sock in there.
And he was telling me that thebeings on that side knew how much
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he loved Christmas and gavehim that gad gift of one sock.
So the people on the otherside, the spirits on the other side,
have a sense of humor.
Thanks.
Bye.
They do.
Yeah.
No, that's a great.
Actually, they have more of asense of humor.
Than the living.
That's why I like the dead so much.
And she was so detailed.
You could tell it was a visit.
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And that was a visit.
It was like, Dee, thank youfor sharing that with us.
That story.
I know it's got to make a fewpeople out there laugh and be able
to relate on a sibling level.
Of course, your brother camethrough, you know, giving you a hard
time saying, I know you tookmy sock, you know, so I think that's
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great.
And they do do that.
They do still try and playwith us emotionally or I've had brothers
say, yeah, I've got this thingfigured out now and I'm.
I'm pretty good at haunting.
And they seem proud of that.
They're like, yeah, I get, Iget my nephew all the time.
Like, I'm teasing him all the time.
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I move his keys, you know,things like that.
So they do.
The jokesters are still jokesters.
The romantic ones are stillvery romantic.
Although I have noticed thatsome people that pass then become
very romantic because theydidn't convey it verbally.
They communicate it to thepartner and then they died and they
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feel like they need to say allthose things they didn't know how
to communicate in the living world.
So kind of amazing.
I love that story though.
A sock.
I mean, of course, I just, Ilove getting these stories because
like you said, hers is sospecific and detailed and if somebody
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was going to make up a story,it's not going to be about a sock.
These are real people sharingtheir real life, the real love and
the real loss.
And I think it's reallybeautiful that I have so many in
Touch listeners out there thatare willing to share their stories
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with us at Christmas time.
So I really appreciate that.
Dee, that was great.
So what did you think abouteverything that you heard?
This is.
We've showed the scienceminded and then we've shown the ones
that absolutely know on aspiritual level it to be true.
Who seems happier?
Dee seem pretty happy, right?
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Yeah, she gets it.
Absolutely.
And it's people living their lives.
Yes, I.
And including the dead intheir lives.
And I don't mean dead in theterms of, you know, when people say
dead, it's.
It sort of sits wrong with youbecause at least with me, because
they're more alive than we are.
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And they always tell me thatthey're like, you're the dead ones.
We're more alive than you are.
You guys don't even get it.
Like you're there living it.
You don't get it.
We're the dead ones.
So when I.
The people who have droppedtheir bodies and are.
And our soul brothers andsisters out there, they know what's
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up.
They know what's up.
And they.
Well, it can.
Okay.
And they're trying to bringfocus and clarity to our lives, and
they're trying to let us knowthat we're not alone, even when we
feel alone.
That.
And to let them in and letthem be part of our life.
They're waiting for us to whatto say, I want you to be part of
my life still, please stickaround, you know, or come by from
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time to time.
I know you're there.
And the more that youacknowledge them, the more they visit
you.
And, you know, we had thecaller earlier, which was actually
a really good question for herto ask, asking why they would want
to be here.
Because they love us so much.
That's why.
Even with all of ourcomplaints in our physical world
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and our lives, and we're like,I got a divorce and, you know, my
kids going through this issuewith drugs or, you know, I can't
pay my bills, they still wantto be with us in those moments because
they're trying to help usevolve through it all.
And in the end, we're going torecognize that the money didn't matter,
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that although it makes ourphysical world more comfortable for
us, that that's not the pointof us being here.
And people that are worriedabout, you know, showing on Instagram,
you know, that they're thinneror richer than everybody else and
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they've got, like, 30 filterson their face, they're missing the
point of why we're here.
You know, you're not going tohave an epitaph when you die that
said, here lies the mostfiltered woman in the world.
Or, you know, but she looked great.
It's just we get caught up inthe minutiae.
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Even technology, I think, asconvenient as it is and easy, and
I'm guilty of it, it makes ourlives easier.
It's actually dumbing down our souls.
We have to find a balance.
And technology, there's no, wecan't not use it now that we have
it, but we can be in moderation.
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Maybe, but it's gotten alittle out of control, in my opinion.
No, it has.
No.
But I'm just saying we can bethoughtful and live a life where
we are.
Think of how that would havechanged things when we were kids
or going back.
So say we'll take Forrest Gump.
Everyone's seen Forrest Gumpfrom, like, the 1990s with Tom Hanks.
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So he's sitting on the parkbench talking to the little old lady,
and he's telling heroutlandish stories that actually
ended up being true.
And if she had technology, shewouldn't be sitting on that park
bench.
She would have ordered a lift.
It would have picked her up.
That conversation never took place.
I'm just saying, in the grandscheme of life, think about how many
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experiences you don't havebecause you're buried in a screen.
Well, yeah, but we also, withthe technology, we can stay in touch
with people that we otherwisewouldn't have.
And maybe we.
Okay, but if we otherwisewouldn't have.
That's what I'm saying.
If you wouldn't make aneffort, then what?
We're just lazy, and it makesit easier now to do it.
(37:56):
So they're worth that.
I mean, I think we're goingthrough as a whole society.
We're learning and evolving,so we'll find the place where we
can have technology and stillhave those personal relationships.
We just need to figure it out.
And.
Yeah.
Anything new, There's a periodof adjustment.
Yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
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And for people with thosereally little kids, get them off
those iPads, give them aballoon, let them play, do something
with them.
Their brain matter's not developing.
That's a problem.
Cardboard box.
Oh, yeah.
A little break dancing in high school.
Oh, I did that.
Oh, you mean playing the cardboard.
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I was always like, challenge accepted.
I think I could do it.
A big box of crayons.
I mean, those.
Yeah.
Hula hoop.
A hula hoop.
A little kid can play with ahula hoop for hours.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of, like,tools like hammers and things where
they can take stuff apart andlearn how they work.
Yeah.
Well, you're pretty.
You're excellent.
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So, I mean, that's that.
I was more of the spatter art,where you turn it on.
Spin art.
That's spin art.
And you turn it on in theyard, and your mom's like, take it
outside.
You're gonna get it all over.
What a crazy idea.
We're gonna dump paint andspin it.
Real fast, and you'll make apretty picture that your mom's gonna
put on the fridge.
(39:20):
But how special is that?
I still bring through peoplewho talk about they loved their granddaughter
that was like a daughter tothem and that they used to put her
art on their refrigerator, andit was like wall to wall art.
Does anybody do that anymore?
Well, can you put.
If you draw it on thecomputer, I guess.
I don't know.
Anyways, if you, if you wantto weigh in on that, please feel
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free and call the 802-D E A D811.
In my opinion, technologydefinitely is diminishing souls just
because people are spending alot less time connecting with other
people and relating to them inreal life rather than through the
screen or just scrolling.
And so if you're gonna be in atechnology based career like my husband
(40:06):
is and he finds a balance thathe absolutely lives the rest of the
time when he's not at ASUworking and.
Or he's not in the officehere, we try and make time for him
to.
He had a poker night with theguys last week.
Come on.
Yeah, that was fun, right?
So just live a little, people.
(40:26):
Live a little.
That's the answer.
Then play more cards.
Because you got.
You got to look at people andyou get the relationship and you.
Yeah, you got to read their vibe.
You got to read the vibe tosee if it's a poker face or not,
like, if they have a good one.
So, Joe, thank you for beingthe yin to my yang.
And thank you to my listenersfor tuning in every Tuesday.
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On today's episode of the DeadLife, we'll be hearing from listeners
who have inspiring Christmasstories to share with us all.
Since December is that time ofyear that we have a little more family
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Well, Joe, thank you onceagain for coming in.
It's so nice in December.
I can be a little bit more,you know, in house and I don't, I
don't have to have strangersas my guests.
I can have my husband.
(01:27):
Right?
And you.
And you bake those wonderfulcookies and the house smells like
cranberry chocolate chip.
Well, you're a lucky man.
What can I say?
I love the cookies, but I alsolove how you worked in the word grinchy.
It wouldn't be Christmaswithout a little.
That I know.
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So it's just, it's.
And I'm sure that all peopleof science minds are very nice, but
when we talk about things thatare more magical and Christmas miracles
on a spiritual level, you guyssound a little grinchy.
So who are we starting with?
Oh, okay.
(02:08):
So, yes, we're going to startoff with a question.
You know, we're going to save the.
We have a few of those storiesthat people called in with that were
like, Christmas, like, really,really Christmassy.
They're really special.
We listen to them.
So we're going to save thosetill the end.
We're going to start off, weget some of these other ones out
(02:29):
of the way first.
Yes, we want to give you anice bedtime story.
So we'll save those for theend and start off with the more difficult
questions.
Hi, Allison, I have a fewquestions about the afterlife.
After listening to you for along time on your show, you say that
our loved Ones are constantlyaround us and that they want us to
(02:50):
know that, quote, we are their heaven.
So to me, hanging around andwatching the living does not seem
very heaven.
Like, we have so many problemshere on earth.
If the dead have to watch usendure all our problems and try to
help us with these problems,how is that much of a heaven?
Okay, so I've actually talkedabout this in my books, but, I mean,
(03:14):
I'm happy to answer this as arefresh for everyone.
Now, if a dead person, aspirit, somebody who is the best
version of themselves after alifetime lived, the essence that's
left is basically on spiritual steroids.
It sees everything.
It feels in high definition,what life is, the ripple effects
(03:38):
of the mistakes they made, thepeople they hurt, if any.
And the good stuff is sort ofhighlighted for them and celebrated
energetically.
And what I mean by that isthey get to walk through it as if
it's happening for the firsttime all over again as a sort of
well done.
Your energy was on a highfrequency in the living world.
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Congratulations.
Now she has a valid point.
You know, sounds a lot ofpeople watch the news, turn it off.
Because it's important to be informed.
Yes, true, but, you know,shows like the View and stuff, I'm
just saying, Grinches, like,who wants to hear it?
A lot of things ratchet up thestress level.
(04:22):
And it does to step back.
But she's also.
She's also measuring spiritualexperiences that these souls have
had in the physical world byphysical world, living people's thought
process.
And we're not as enlightenedas we are when we cross.
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So you can't really, from herperspective, maybe you would see
only the negative in the world.
And they're not here to watchthe news with you or to wait to watch
daytime television.
They're here to see the chaosof you with your toddlers in the
backseat of the car.
And they're recognizing howbeautiful a moment that is.
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Because children grow up andthey don't need us as much anymore.
We don't get the hugs and, youknow, savor these moments.
The chaos is the beauty.
They teach us these lessonsthat they learned, and that's what
they stick around for.
Telling their grown daughterto take a break and to be good to
herself and to take time tocross some things off of her bucket
(05:28):
list while she's living andnot work so hard.
Because in the end, althoughthere are some spirits, they'll say
they go to work with their sonor their daughter because they were
maybe a hard worker orworkaholic themselves.
They go because of their sonor daughter, you know, to help them
and also to teach them lessons.
Whisper in their ear.
And I kind of.
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I thought about that.
If you think about when wewent to all those recitals with our
children were young, thestress involved with the.
Oh, I know.
Losing a glove that, you know,you need two gloves when you perform
and things like that, or a hator a belt that has the costume, all
that stress.
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And you think, why would theywant to relive that stress?
No, no, no.
It's the next moment when theparents are crying because their
little, you know, their littleangel is performing and they're just
so proud.
Disneyland in a parade andshe's shining.
You know, that's the moment.
Or the parent saves the dayand steals another kid's.
I'm kidding.
When the parent saves the dayand finds that other glove or that
(06:32):
toy hat that they need toperform in.
Right, right.
And the child feels loved.
Those moments.
And those.
Those stories might soundawfully specific because they happened.
Yeah, they happened to us.
We had a couple of dancers.
But absolutely, there's thestruggle, but then there's the reward,
and that's what you get.
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I mean, you can't have thereward without the struggle.
Right.
The things that we see as uglyin this world are truly ugly.
Oh, yeah.
So there's no mistaking that.
It's what helps.
Gives us.
Give us some contrast of what.
What we have to spend ourdays, weeks and months doing.
You can spend 12 hours a daywatching the news, seeing how horrible
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everything is, which it was 40years ago.
When people were watching thenews, they were saying the same thing.
You know, gas prices are high, inflation.
And yeah, it is terrible.
It's terrible.
But that's not what we're hereto learn.
We're here to learn the soullevel lessons, including when you
have that last $20 and yougive two of those dollars to somebody
(07:42):
who didn't have anything toeat that day, and you share that
moment that becomes a part ofyou and you sort of become a part
of the person that you helped.
It's an energy thing.
And even.
Even you watch TV shows likethe Waltons.
It happened during the Depression.
It was terrible times.
Yeah, during, During, Right,during the depression in the 1930s.
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That's what the show set in.
But that's.
I mean, you watch it, you'dwatch every episode.
Because I had never seen it,and I watched it in Covid and I looked
forward to it every day.
Right.
And it wasn't.
I mean, were you relivingtheir struggles?
Well, a little bit, butthey're, they're.
You know, they made it throughthose struggles.
Yeah.
And it brought them closer.
They knew what it felt like tonot have a lot of clothes or a lot
(08:29):
of food and to have strife.
And sometimes we need to have that.
And I think in this time, it'sreally weird because you see the
younger generations and theircredit cards, and we already.
Come on, we already learnedthat lesson with Gen X.
Don't go down that path andmax them out.
Living beyond your means, youknow, it's.
It's the lessons you'relearning spiritually.
(08:51):
But if people don't havestrife because they're not experiencing
it yet, because they'refloating on credit, they're not really
going to experience it quiteat the point that they're at.
So it just depends on whereevery individual is in the moment.
But an answer to her question.
They're not here to witnessthe bad stuff.
They're here to focus on theperson they love and intervene if
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they need to on your behalf,if it's in their power to do so,
to either save you, guide you,inspire you, lift you up when you
need it, give you their energy.
They're here for us.
But they do enjoy watching thechaos of life.
And by chaos, I don't mean theugly part of life.
(09:34):
I mean the beauty in themoments that we don't see it when
they're happening, but laterwhen we die, we recognize that those
were.
That's what it was all about.
And it was so special.
And it doesn't get better than that.
All those birthday parties weplanned and executed and the cakes
and worrying about everythinggoing just right.
(09:54):
And what if one of theirfriends doesn't show up?
And are they going to be happy?
When you're on the other side,the stress isn't there.
You're just reliving that day,you know, with the child and feeling
how loved they felt becauseyou had that party for them.
And so at the time, in thisphysical world, we do get bogged
down in things that areunimportant in the end.
(10:17):
So the.
The spirits that have passedaren't on that level.
They're above that.
So when they're visiting us, they're.
They're emotionally tied tous, not intellect tied to us, which
would be more of what she'sthinking with the ugliness that she
speaks of.
For instance, you know,whatever anybody's position on anything
(10:39):
is, you know, we're in sort of a.
Sort of a.
You know, recession right now.
I mean, money's been a lottighter for everybody and it's a
hard time and you must feelfor everyone.
But these spirits are seeingit on an individual level.
You know, the person thatthey're there to help on, that person.
They don't try and look at thebigger picture of the totality of
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everybody and the populationon earth.
You know, peace on earth is anice thought.
It hasn't happened not in along time.
So, you know, be in the now.
Live in your day, in yourdays, in minutes.
Even last week I had, youknow, I work, I do a lot of readings.
I deal with a lot of death.
So what I did for my lunchbreak is I made cranberry chocolate
(11:23):
chip cookies.
I watched the Grinch and Elf.
I made some hot chocolate witha double shot of whipped cream and
I enjoyed myself by myself.
And you know what?
It was wonderful.
And I lived in that Christmasmoment and banked it in my moments
of heaven that I just happenedto decide I wanted to create one
(11:46):
on that day and I did.
So it's a lot of it's in ourpower to do so.
And it's about rising abovewhat is the totality of darkness
or greed in the world.
And it has more to do with anindividual moment of bliss.
(12:07):
So take your moments of blissand the dead will enjoy those with
you.
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All right, so we're going tomove on to Bridget from Georgia.
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And this is the science question.
Okay, Big question.
I want to prepare everybody,but I also want to ask you.
So you're going to be myguardrails if I start getting too
scientific.
Triple air sign?
You bet.
I will wrangle you.
Wrangle me right in.
I will.
All right, here we go.
Hey, guys, this is Bridgetfrom Georgia.
(13:58):
I have a question for both of you.
I'm a teacher in high schooland I have taught science, I've taught
literature.
And I'm wondering, since Joehas a science background and a physics
knowledge of physics, I'mcurious to know if his education
and what he has learnedconflicts or actually reinforces
(14:23):
what you, Allison, believe spiritually.
Like, do y'all ever butt headson what's possible and not possible
based on the laws of energy?
Or do Yalls beliefs insteadvalidate each other?
Thanks, guys.
I'll let you start.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, it's.
It is a really, really big question.
(14:44):
One of the biggest questionsreally, when you first.
To answer part of her question.
No, we don't butt heads.
We've.
We've actually all.
We've.
Through the years we've beentogether, there's always been agreement
on what you did.
I was super curious when itfirst happened.
Like, what is it that youactually do?
You are very open minded and.
But I was open minded, as I think.
(15:05):
And I think a lot of it comes.
I think people misunderstandwhat science is and misunderstand
what spirituality is.
And so what they don't know,they'll make up.
And so they say, well, ascientist couldn't possibly believe
in spirituality because it'snot an energy.
And it's like, well, but youcan actually.
(15:26):
Spirituality is an energy.
Souls are energy.
Well, you refer to it asenergy often and you'll refer to
it as frequency.
But it's not one that we'vebeen able to measure so much with
an instrument, but you measureit with.
You feel it that way.
And that's the best words weuse to describe it.
There's been plenty of.
You've taken plenty of testsat universities and you've scored
(15:50):
very, very high.
I was going to say theystudied me for four years and they.
It was undeniable.
Oh, sure.
But take our brain waves.
Take like when I was pregnant,I would faint and they gave me an
MRI and I had epileptic pulseslike in my brain.
But I don't have epilepsy.
(16:12):
And the chief neurosurgeondidn't Know what to say.
Right.
He said, if it doesn't go awayafter the baby's born, come back.
But I've run every test onyou, and you're perfectly healthy.
So I think.
I think souls may be beyond measurement.
And I think that people lookat scientists as people who should
(16:33):
have all the answers, butthat's too much to put on humans
to expect them to have all the answers.
Right.
Well, and the good scientiststhat I know, they know what they
know and they know what theydon't know.
And that's why they don't everweigh in on spirituality, because
(16:53):
they're physicists, they knowabout physics, and that's what they
know about.
But I think it goes.
The question in science thatthey haven't answered is, what is
consciousness?
What is free will?
Because they had to kind ofmake a bargain with the church when
science started that they willonly deal with what's called deterministic
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things.
So things that, you know, aplus B equals C, there's no choice
in there.
And then the church carriesall the things have to do with choices,
free will.
And science seems to havetried to take over the church, though.
Well, and I think it's natural.
Some people have replaced thechurch with science and they treat
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it like a church, but it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
But that the whole.
The whole question of freewill, I mean, we, we and some.
Can I.
Can I ask you a question about physics?
Because she was talking aboutthat this would.
Energy cannot be destroyed.
Right.
Nor created.
Right.
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But it can be transformed.
So that's actually out of thelaws of physics.
So if our body dies and thatenergy source, that is us, our personality,
our experiences, all of thatcan't be destroyed.
(18:17):
Okay, here's something that'llblow your mind.
Oh, I can't wait.
I was just reading an article,and they.
There are cases where people,either through illness or surgery
or accidents, lose a goodportion of their brain, like 75%
of it.
And they still have their personality.
(18:38):
They're.
They're basically fine.
Well, clearly your brain isnot your soul.
Right.
But then some people are goingto say some people get brain damage
and it changes their personality.
But that doesn't, you know, Imean, that's hard.
Well, it does.
And things can change yourpersonality and chemical.
You can have chemicalimbalances that change your personality
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and all kinds of things.
Right.
All it is, is it's a big mystery.
We don't know the connectionof the soul and the.
And even the idea of a Souland a body being separate is.
Okay.
I went through test after testafter test with scientists where
they put, they eliminatedevery option, every argument that
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could be made for what I was.
And in the end the last twotheories standing were the super
psi theory and that I was justtalking to the dead.
Which is the most plausible,it's the most obvious is usually
the answer.
So it's called Oxum's razor.
It's another science.
Oh, fantastic.
Very sexy.
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So anyways, anyways.
So when the super psi theoryis that there are pockets of energy
out there that I'm justtapping into and reading.
Okay, that would be kind of amazing.
Anyways, Right, right.
We already down to the twochoices you.
Right.
We already eliminated whetheror not I was inferring anything by
looking at the person, whetherthey're wearing a ring, blah blah
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blah, because they're on the phone.
So I don't know who thisperson is.
And so they'd record those,those tests and then publish them
in academic journals.
Check my information.
You did a test where you readfor a person but you didn't get to
talk to them directly.
There's a person in themiddle, right?
I mean, yeah, they took careof all these things.
So you're either psychic oryou're medium.
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I'm both.
No, I know, but what I meantis they couldn't, they couldn't scientifically
decide which one it was.
Well, they had to eliminate that.
I was just reading people's minds.
It's like, do you hear whatyou're saying?
You're scientists and Aaronthinks you're great and I might just
be reading people's minds.
That's kind of amazing.
But we were able to eliminatethat theory because the person that
I read had to validate some ofthe information that the dead gave
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me because they didn't havethe answer.
And they were able to validatethat what the dead told me was true.
So we eliminated every theoryleft standing with 2.
Science has tried to measureit and I think a wise scientist will
admit they don't have all the answers.
It's the ones with a sciencebackground that think that.
And they have a bit of a Godcomplex that think that spiritualists
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are somehow dumber than themor less than them because we're of
spiritual nature.
And actually on many levelswe're stronger and more evolved than
they are because we're not asshort sighted.
We're open to the fact that wedon't have all the answers.
We only know our ownexperiences that we can share and
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we do.
But there are a lot ofscientists out there that really
are people that don't believein life after death.
And I'm fine with that.
Just don't push your beliefson me.
I'm not trying to put mine on you.
Right.
And those.
Their opinions in that arejust that, their beliefs, because
they're often based.
Well, first off, they'redeciding what they think you do,
which is usually differentthan what you actually do.
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Right.
And then the other thing isthey usually suffer from something
where, like ego, their parentsdidn't love them or something that.
Yeah, that's a big one.
They weren't held as children.
And so you've got to find ahealthy mind, which I think is why
people want to hear it from you.
Because anybody with anyability whatsoever that hears your
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voice and hears you talkingknows you're a good guy, you know,
and you just give it straight.
And I'd like to also say tothe academics, I too graduated from
college and some of thedumbest people I've ever met have
college degrees.
So don't assume becausethey've got some credentials out
there that they have all the answers.
And think for yourself.
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Be a free thinker, people.
Yeah.
So as far as Bridget, our highschool teacher, goes, I guess the
answer is, I believe there'san entanglement theory that eventually
will lead to explaining or atleast bringing us to the same place
that what you're trying tomeasure and what our energy experiences
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are will coincide somehow.
Yeah.
And they're finding more andmore the smaller and smaller scale,
like smaller than atoms.
When you get down in thatrange, things act very strange and
probably closer to emotionalthan they do physical.
And perhaps we'll see it there.
The other one is in chaostheory, it's a maths theory that
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just.
That very small effects canlead to very big effects.
Like the butterfly effect.
That's exactly the best way toput it.
Our personality could be aseries of those little effects.
So that.
Yes, if the body's not there,it doesn't mean those effects have
stopped.
Right.
They're still vibrating in theuniverse and it's a matter of collecting
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them up.
How many hospice nurses havewe talked to that are there at the
moment of passing and theyactually see something leave the
body?
There's an essence anyways.
I would love to try to learn,to try to explain that maybe that
would turn into a degree ofsome sort.
I think that would be afantastic thesis.
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But suffice it to say Alisonhas been tested and there's no doubt
what she's doing is real.
So whether we have a theory ofhow it works, it doesn't matter.
We know it's real.
Yeah.
I mean, once you've seen itover and over again for my lifetime,
I only have my own referenceto go by, but I've also seen other
people who are mediums do itthat are really great at it as well.
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And I've seen children do it.
I just think it's the mosthuman thing.
And to not.
For me it's such.
It's a further leap to notbelieve in life after death.
To me, that's just insane tonot believe in life after death.
So it's perspective.
But I hope on some level weanswered Bridget's question.
Let's go on to the merriment.
Yay.
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Now for Ellen.
Hi Allison, it's Ellen Snelling.
I saw you recently in Chicago.
I have a great holiday story.
My brother John and I playedping pong incessantly as children.
He committed suicide in 2003.
In 2013, I ended my 30 yearmarriage and got a home on my own,
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which was in November.
So for Christmas, I bought my12 year old son a ping pong table.
When I went to pick up theping pong table which I ordered on
Ryan ship to store, I was toldtwice that it was paid for.
It was over $300 and I didn'thave to pay for it.
In my head I said asking twiceas in ceiling.
Right away I knew it was Jen.
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My brother in law and mynephew assembled a ping pong table
in my basement.
And they had to hold it uplengthways and raised a ceiling tile
to clear it.
And a ping pong ball fell outof the ceiling tile.
There was about 15 ceilingtiles in that room.
Again, I knew it was mybrother John.
About a week later, my kidswho were 12 and 14 at the time, were
(25:57):
playing ping pong.
They heard someone who theythought was me come down the basement
stairs and they saw a figurewalk by which they thought was me.
And they said hello to me, butI was upstairs in the kitchen.
When they realized that I wasupstairs in the kitchen, they freaked
out and they ran up the stairslike three at a time.
For years after that, theywouldn't go to the basement by themselves.
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They would always have to havethe other one go with them.
So that is my beautiful pingpong table store.
I will have that ping pongtable forever.
And my brother John has livedin my home since I moved here.
Hope to talk to you again.
Have a great holiday Bye.
Bye.
Thank you, Ellen, for sharingthat completely moving and electric
story.
I love it.
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Yeah, that's a great story.
Uncle John found a way to givehis nephews or nieces and nephews
what, whatever it shall be, aChristmas present or a gift of some
sort.
I think that's really special,what he.
Enjoyed as a, as a kid.
So, of course.
And then the ping pong ballfalling out of the ceiling.
Well, and Ellen, if she wasgoing through all of that emotional
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dread, going through a divorceafter 30 years, maybe he was trying
to keep the kids busy sothey'd leave her alone.
Right.
So that she could heal.
And.
Yeah, the beginning of thatstory after we, you know, we've been
promoting this great Christmas story.
And I mean, she went through.
She went through hell.
And it was like, are you sure?
It's a great story, but.
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No, it's a great story.
Her brother came through for her.
Yeah.
And these are the stories welove to hear.
So if any of you have your ownstory, you know, definitely call
in and share it.
Tis the season.
Oh, I know.
And that's 802d e a D811.
If you want to call in withyour story.
Go ahead.
The.
Them running up the stepsthree at a time reminds me of when
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our daughter was filming withher friend.
And the door to the bathroom,which was in.
In the view of the camera, closed.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, there wasnobody in the bathroom.
Right.
Yeah.
That was amazing.
And it scared the hell out of her.
And I heard two girls comedown this.
Running down the stairs,scream at the top of their lungs
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and they're like, go in there.
I'm like, what do you thinkthe ghost is going to do to me?
Like, I'm pretty safe.
It's all right.
Let me go have a chat and I'lllet you know what's up.
So her.
Her brother Uncle John is inthe house and with her.
I think people might have questions.
One, how can I invite mybrother to be in the house?
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And two, like, if I move, doeshe move with me or does he stay in
the house?
Like, people worry about that.
If they move, will that personnot go with them?
And I often have the deceasedcome through and say, you need to
move.
Especially when it's a spousethat passed or a child that died
of fentanyl overdose orsuicide, they feel like the mother,
(28:54):
sort of the room that'senshrined to the deceased is acting
as a cancer to their motherand eating away at her.
Now, some parents, it actuallyhelps them through it and that's
for each individual to decidewhat works for them.
But I do have a lot ofdeceased husbands or wives coming
through saying, you've got to move.
(29:15):
You've got to start the next chapter.
I'll go with you.
You know, you're movingtowards me.
I'm moving towards that daywith you.
I'm not going to leave your life.
But you can't stay in theenergy of this house anymore because
it's all a death energy, oreverything reminds you of that person
and you need something freshso your brain can function and on
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different levels without onlysuffering and grieving constantly,
you know, so, yeah, that's you.
You've said before that whenpeople ask you about a haunted house
and you say, well, every houseis haunted because you see.
I mean, you see spirits everywhere.
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They're connected to us,usually not the house.
So we're haunted people then,aren't we?
Right.
But you do seem to likesometimes it's ours, but it's usually
the people.
We live in the desert, and Ithink you kind of like the desert
because it's a little less crowded.
Yeah, well, I.
Now it's more crowded.
Oh, my gosh.
Don't even get me started.
Everybody go home.
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Go home.
No.
So let's go to the next caller.
Hi, Allison.
This is Dee, South Carolinawanted to call in and tell you about
a holiday magic story of mybrother who passed away the day after
Thanksgiving in 2018.
He loved Christmas and the daythat he passed away, and we were
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waiting for his body to be taken.
I pulled one of his socks offof his foot because I just wanted
to keep something thatbelonged to him.
Two months after he passedaway, I had a visitation from him
in a dream.
And we were coming back from aconcert, and he was sitting in his
hotel room.
And as I was walking by, I sawhim and I said, caleb, what are you
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doing?
He says, oh, nothing.
And he had a box in his hand,and he hid it behind his back.
I said, let me see it.
He goes, oh, no, you wouldn'tbe interested in that.
I said, yes, I would.
Let me see it.
And so I grabbed the box fromhim, and when I opened the lid, there
was one sock in there.
And he was telling me that thebeings on that side knew how much
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he loved Christmas and gavehim that gad gift of one sock.
So the people on the otherside, the spirits on the other side,
have a sense of humor.
Thanks.
Bye.
They do.
Yeah.
No, that's a great.
Actually, they have more of asense of humor.
Than the living.
That's why I like the dead so much.
And she was so detailed.
You could tell it was a visit.
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And that was a visit.
It was like, Dee, thank youfor sharing that with us.
That story.
I know it's got to make a fewpeople out there laugh and be able
to relate on a sibling level.
Of course, your brother camethrough, you know, giving you a hard
time saying, I know you tookmy sock, you know, so I think that's
(32:13):
great.
And they do do that.
They do still try and playwith us emotionally or I've had brothers
say, yeah, I've got this thingfigured out now and I'm.
I'm pretty good at haunting.
And they seem proud of that.
They're like, yeah, I get, Iget my nephew all the time.
Like, I'm teasing him all the time.
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I move his keys, you know,things like that.
So they do.
The jokesters are still jokesters.
The romantic ones are stillvery romantic.
Although I have noticed thatsome people that pass then become
very romantic because theydidn't convey it verbally.
They communicate it to thepartner and then they died and they
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feel like they need to say allthose things they didn't know how
to communicate in the living world.
So kind of amazing.
I love that story though.
A sock.
I mean, of course, I just, Ilove getting these stories because
like you said, hers is sospecific and detailed and if somebody
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was going to make up a story,it's not going to be about a sock.
These are real people sharingtheir real life, the real love and
the real loss.
And I think it's reallybeautiful that I have so many in
Touch listeners out there thatare willing to share their stories
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with us at Christmas time.
So I really appreciate that.
Dee, that was great.
So what did you think abouteverything that you heard?
This is.
We've showed the scienceminded and then we've shown the ones
that absolutely know on aspiritual level it to be true.
Who seems happier?
Dee seem pretty happy, right?
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Yeah, she gets it.
Absolutely.
And it's people living their lives.
Yes, I.
And including the dead intheir lives.
And I don't mean dead in theterms of, you know, when people say
dead, it's.
It sort of sits wrong with youbecause at least with me, because
they're more alive than we are.
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And they always tell me thatthey're like, you're the dead ones.
We're more alive than you are.
You guys don't even get it.
Like you're there living it.
You don't get it.
We're the dead ones.
So when I.
The people who have droppedtheir bodies and are.
And our soul brothers andsisters out there, they know what's
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up.
They know what's up.
And they.
Well, it can.
Okay.
And they're trying to bringfocus and clarity to our lives, and
they're trying to let us knowthat we're not alone, even when we
feel alone.
That.
And to let them in and letthem be part of our life.
They're waiting for us to whatto say, I want you to be part of
my life still, please stickaround, you know, or come by from
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time to time.
I know you're there.
And the more that youacknowledge them, the more they visit
you.
And, you know, we had thecaller earlier, which was actually
a really good question for herto ask, asking why they would want
to be here.
Because they love us so much.
That's why.
Even with all of ourcomplaints in our physical world
(35:27):
and our lives, and we're like,I got a divorce and, you know, my
kids going through this issuewith drugs or, you know, I can't
pay my bills, they still wantto be with us in those moments because
they're trying to help usevolve through it all.
And in the end, we're going torecognize that the money didn't matter,
(35:50):
that although it makes ourphysical world more comfortable for
us, that that's not the pointof us being here.
And people that are worriedabout, you know, showing on Instagram,
you know, that they're thinneror richer than everybody else and
(36:10):
they've got, like, 30 filterson their face, they're missing the
point of why we're here.
You know, you're not going tohave an epitaph when you die that
said, here lies the mostfiltered woman in the world.
Or, you know, but she looked great.
It's just we get caught up inthe minutiae.
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Even technology, I think, asconvenient as it is and easy, and
I'm guilty of it, it makes ourlives easier.
It's actually dumbing down our souls.
We have to find a balance.
And technology, there's no, wecan't not use it now that we have
it, but we can be in moderation.
(36:52):
Maybe, but it's gotten alittle out of control, in my opinion.
No, it has.
No.
But I'm just saying we can bethoughtful and live a life where
we are.
Think of how that would havechanged things when we were kids
or going back.
So say we'll take Forrest Gump.
Everyone's seen Forrest Gumpfrom, like, the 1990s with Tom Hanks.
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So he's sitting on the parkbench talking to the little old lady,
and he's telling heroutlandish stories that actually
ended up being true.
And if she had technology, shewouldn't be sitting on that park
bench.
She would have ordered a lift.
It would have picked her up.
That conversation never took place.
I'm just saying, in the grandscheme of life, think about how many
(37:34):
experiences you don't havebecause you're buried in a screen.
Well, yeah, but we also, withthe technology, we can stay in touch
with people that we otherwisewouldn't have.
And maybe we.
Okay, but if we otherwisewouldn't have.
That's what I'm saying.
If you wouldn't make aneffort, then what?
We're just lazy, and it makesit easier now to do it.
(37:56):
So they're worth that.
I mean, I think we're goingthrough as a whole society.
We're learning and evolving,so we'll find the place where we
can have technology and stillhave those personal relationships.
We just need to figure it out.
And.
Yeah.
Anything new, There's a periodof adjustment.
Yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
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And for people with thosereally little kids, get them off
those iPads, give them aballoon, let them play, do something
with them.
Their brain matter's not developing.
That's a problem.
Cardboard box.
Oh, yeah.
A little break dancing in high school.
Oh, I did that.
Oh, you mean playing the cardboard.
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I was always like, challenge accepted.
I think I could do it.
A big box of crayons.
I mean, those.
Yeah.
Hula hoop.
A hula hoop.
A little kid can play with ahula hoop for hours.
Yeah, I'm a big fan of, like,tools like hammers and things where
they can take stuff apart andlearn how they work.
Yeah.
Well, you're pretty.
You're excellent.
(39:00):
So, I mean, that's that.
I was more of the spatter art,where you turn it on.
Spin art.
That's spin art.
And you turn it on in theyard, and your mom's like, take it
outside.
You're gonna get it all over.
What a crazy idea.
We're gonna dump paint andspin it.
Real fast, and you'll make apretty picture that your mom's gonna
put on the fridge.
(39:20):
But how special is that?
I still bring through peoplewho talk about they loved their granddaughter
that was like a daughter tothem and that they used to put her
art on their refrigerator, andit was like wall to wall art.
Does anybody do that anymore?
Well, can you put.
If you draw it on thecomputer, I guess.
I don't know.
Anyways, if you, if you wantto weigh in on that, please feel
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free and call the 802-D E A D811.
In my opinion, technologydefinitely is diminishing souls just
because people are spending alot less time connecting with other
people and relating to them inreal life rather than through the
screen or just scrolling.
And so if you're gonna be in atechnology based career like my husband
(40:06):
is and he finds a balance thathe absolutely lives the rest of the
time when he's not at ASUworking and.
Or he's not in the officehere, we try and make time for him
to.
He had a poker night with theguys last week.
Come on.
Yeah, that was fun, right?
So just live a little, people.
(40:26):
Live a little.
That's the answer.
Then play more cards.
Because you got.
You got to look at people andyou get the relationship and you.
Yeah, you got to read their vibe.
You got to read the vibe tosee if it's a poker face or not,
like, if they have a good one.
So, Joe, thank you for beingthe yin to my yang.
And thank you to my listenersfor tuning in every Tuesday.
(40:48):
I'm Allison Dubois, and thisis the Dead Life.
To all of my believers outthere, don't stop believing.
Join us next week on the Deadlight.
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