May 6, 2025 • 32 mins
Mark Beale, a distinguished hypnotherapist and expert in past life regression, discusses the profound connections between our current lives and those we have led previously. We talk about the compelling notion that many individuals harbor feelings of having experienced life before, often accompanied by unresolved wounds from those past existences. Through the technique of past life regression, Mark guides patients in uncovering the origins of these feelings, enabling them to confront and heal lingering emotional scars. As we explore the fascinating realm of reincarnation, we also discuss the impact of past life experiences on our present behaviors and choices, emphasizing the importance of understanding one’s narrative to achieve personal growth. Join us as we navigate the intricate tapestry of our histories, revealing how the echoes of the past continue to shape our present and future. This is part one of two parts.
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Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison Dubois.
Welcome to the Dead Life.
Today my guest is Mark Beale,a hypnotherapist and expert in past
life regression.
Mark hosts a podcast calledthe Past Life Awakening and he's
the author of the book PastLife Awakening.
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Many people feel as thoughthey've been here before.
They often vibe with aparticular point in time and can
carry wounds brought in frompast lives.
Hypnotherapists can take theirpatients back in time through past
life regression to discoverwhy they feel like they've been here
before and who they were.
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Well, Mark, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you, Alison.
Lovely to be here.
Well, it's great having you.
So you have a background ineconomics, was that correct?
You got your bachelor's in economics.
That's right.
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What made you want to be a hypnotherapist?
Well, I guess as I do thisawakening path, you're awakening
to your healer's path, butthen you have to awake from a conventional
path.
So you're right.
I was in a.
I had an economic storybecause I was a kid culturally conditioned
in the 1980s.
So I'd watch movies like Wallstreet and think, that looks cool.
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Yeah.
So I got an economics degree.
You know, I worked in tradingrooms in London, Hong Kong and Sydney.
But then I soon realized it'snot that cool.
And, and it's not for me inthe long term anyway.
It gave me good opportunitiesand I even went back and thought,
what was I thinking gettinginto this profession?
So I went back and watchedWall street and the lead character
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says, I don't really careabout this job.
All I want is to make enoughmoney so I can ride my motorcycle
across China for a year.
And I thought that was thepoint of that movie.
So I quit my job and rode amotorcycle across India for a year.
And eventually I made it tostayed in Asia for 25 years, became
a hypnotherapist, was workingin a fancy wellness resort in Thailand,
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much like the White Lotus,where Oliver Stone, the director
of Wall Street Regularly says.
And I'd seen him beinginterviewed saying, people come up
to me and say, I work in Wallstreet because of your movie.
And he thinks, well, youdidn't understand the movie.
And I thought, well, I want tobe the one guy who says, I saw Wall
street and it inspired me toquit economics and to ride a motorcycle
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to get here.
For me, the meaning of thatstory is that we can all be hypnotized
by a surface level perceptionof narratives that we receive from
culture.
And when we want to understandour past lives, the first thing to
do is to understand this life.
Because often we don't evenreally understand the life or moment
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that we're in.
And so for me, past liferegression is something I found.
And it's really about lookingat narratives and not just saying,
like, who was I?
Or what did I do?
It's what were the deep, realspiritual themes in that work of
art or the lessons that we'rewanting to learn from it?
So, yeah, I did start oneconomics, but I quickly graduated.
So I ended up writing at 25years old to a meditation retreat
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where my sort of awakeningreally began.
I've noticed that inastrology, I have a friend, Tom McMullen,
that comes on and in charts hecan see sort of some of the past
life wounds that we bring intothis lifetime.
I would imagine that some ofthe work that you do has to do with
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some of those wounds.
Why some people can't walkinto a church and then find out it's
because they were persecutedin a past life life and it was connected
to the church, or that youhave a fear of being killed because
you've been killed before oryou want to have children and you
have a.
A need, like a great need tohave children because in a.
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Maybe in a past life they weretaken from you.
So you're always worried aboutthe ones you have more so than even
other parents.
So I find that a lot of thewounds seem to come in from somewhere.
And have you ever looked atchildren with past lives?
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In what sense do you meanlooking at children?
So I've.
I saw a show called GhostInside My Child on Prime Video, and
it was just so fascinating tosee how adamant they were that they
had lived before that theirwife's name was sad era that they
had two kids and three cats.
And they're very specific.
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So have you ever encounteredanything along those lines?
Yeah, there's a lot ofresearch done by that.
There's a guy called Dr.
Ian Stevenson, and hededicated his whole life to Studying
children who report their past lives.
So he's mainly a researcher.
So I typically won't do pastlife regression for children.
But the reason I ask isbecause when people regress, we regress
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to their childhood.
And so I only work withchildren in the fact that they're
feeling vividly themselves.
And when you're talking aboutwounds, I'd like to come back to
that, because that's true.
And I've got some case studiesthat really illustrate that.
So, yes, that's a huge part ofwhat we do.
But part of the way that I doit is before I get to the wounds,
I regress people to theabilities that they have and the
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healing ability they have.
And so what that often meansis that you find their inner child's
wounds, but you find the innerchild's strengths.
And so that's something that Ifind where you take people back and
you can see, for example, withme, I thought I was some economics
guy, but when I did aregression, I found out that I was
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10 years old doing hypnosis,and I had that as a memory.
And I thought, that can't be right.
Maybe I'm making it up.
So I rang my mother and said,did I hypnotize you when I was 10?
And she said, yes, I remember it.
And I thought, really, Ithought I was making it up.
So sort of that's my childpart, where there was inner part
of me that did have that ability.
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And so then we have thisattraction to healing modalities.
But then, of course, aschildren, we may have these abilities
and they come up in this life,but then we get punished for them.
We forget them, we repressthem, we suppress them, and then
that child grows into an adultand thinks they should work on Wall
street, which is ridiculous, And.
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And they should do something else.
And so is that something I wasgoing to ask?
Well, you found your abilitiesearly, but did you.
And you had to battle thesystem, going to universities and
being tested.
But how was it for you as achild afterwards?
Were you able to speak openlyabout it or was that suppressed in
some way?
For me, in childhood, yeah, itwas surprise.
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Well, I spoke about it openly,but I was quickly deflected.
The time in which I was achild was late 70s, early 80s.
And they didn't really knowwhat to do with kids who talked about
things like ghosts and theother side, I didn't even call them
ghosts.
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I just saw them as people.
The people that would be, youknow, like my great grandfather standing
at the foot of my bed.
And that's why I have achapter in one of my books called
Kindergarten Mediums, becauseseems between 4 and 6, that kids
are able to really communicatewhat they understand to be true and
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what they're seeing.
And you start seeing that comeout where adults can make some sense
of it.
But back then, they really didn't.
And so I related to a lot ofDisney movies and movies that depicted
children seeing the other side.
And to me, that made sense.
I saw Somewhere in Time.
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I had Stephen Simon on my showwho directed Somewhere in Time.
It was his movie.
And at the end of the movie, Ilooked at my dad and I said, that
makes sense.
When I saw Jane Seymour andChristopher Reeve's character together
on the other side after theydied, I knew that that's the way
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it was.
I felt it, and it was true.
And that's just.
That was how I saw the world.
I didn't really understand whypeople were afraid of spirits in
childhood, but my mom quicklyshut me down.
When I was about six, I saw mygreat grandfather standing at the
foot of my bed.
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And it was after his funeraland we had come home that day, my
mom put me to bed, and helooked at me and he said, tell your
mom I'm not in pain anymore,and I'm still with her.
So I got out of bed and I wentin her room.
I thought she'd be reallyhappy that he was back.
And she told me to go back to bed.
And she shut me down really quickly.
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And after that, I didn't wantto share anything that I saw because
I didn't want to disappoint my mother.
So.
Yeah, that interesting.
So I've got a case study, if Icould tell you, and it's kind of
along those lines, and itanswers that question about, you
know, murders and chaos and pain.
So it reminds me of a clientof mine.
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She's actually a case study inthe book Past Life Awakening.
And she's a consulting psychologist.
So she has a conventionalbackground, but in healing.
And she was attracted tohealing, spiritual healing, but also
had an aversion to it.
And so.
And she had.
She was worried about what hercolleagues would think if she wanted
to start practicing past life regression.
And she also had.
And then people come to me.
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They've got, like, a laundrylist of issues.
She was like, and also, why amI connected to Buddhist teachers?
Why have I got inflammationsin my knee?
What am I supposed to be doingwith my life?
And so we regressed her firstto this life.
And she recalled being sort ofsix, seven years old with psychic
abilities.
And she realized, oh, mycousin is in danger.
And so she thought, I'm goingto use this ability.
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And she told her grandmotherto try and help save her cousin.
And the grandmother looked ather and slapped her in the face and
said, don't talk bad aboutyour cousin.
And a few years later, thecousin got into worse and worse company,
became a missing person, andno one's seen her for 10 years.
So the problem was her visionwas right.
But what she learned wassquash your psychic ability.
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And you're attracted tospirit, to this psychic ability,
because you, you've got anability and you feel drawn to it,
but you also feel repulsed byit because it's caused you pain in
the past.
Yes.
And so I think that'ssomething a lot of people listening
can relate to.
I think so.
So that's something that myclient experienced.
But then there's a past lifecomponent to it, as we.
Because oftentimes there's athis life cause.
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And you may think, well, thatanswers the question.
But then a past life causecame in.
So if I can tell a bit of that story.
So she was in that life.
She was a boy, and she feltherself to be dropped off at a Buddhist
monastery in Tibet in the 1930s.
So she felt a bit abandonedand left from her family.
And so she went on, and 25years later, she's a teacher helping
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the little students in the monastery.
It's in the 1950s, but I feltshe was holding something back.
And so you can have this feelof, you know, is what I'm experiencing
real?
Am I making it up?
Especially if you've just gotpictures or fuzzy pictures.
But what I want to do is getpeople to go to root emotions, and
so that way they can feel thatit's real.
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And if you go to somethingreally emotional, then you can heal
it.
And so as I was saying thesekind of words to encourage her, she
started breathing harder.
And she was like, there's somechaos approaching.
She sort of, you know, thisattraction to, I came here to heal
this, but I sort of don't wantto face it.
So I just encourage it, go toit, so you can go through it and
beyond it.
And as I'm saying that, shejust screams.
She goes, my students, shestarts sobbing.
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I say, what's happening?
She calms down a little bit,but is still crying, saying, I can't
save them.
My students are beingattacked, they're being killed.
And we just keep playing it forward.
And she recovers her calm soit's traumatic, but it's pretty manageable.
And we play it forward and wefind out that she was able to escape
and make it to India, but shehad this trauma to deal with.
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So she sat in meditation for along time processing it.
In fact, she felt sat so longthat she ended up injuring her knees.
But I asked what was theresult of the meditation.
She goes, I was teachingimpermanence, but I didn't really
fully realize it.
And I was faced my emotions ofanger and bitterness.
And I came to the conclusionthings just happen.
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It just is.
These people killed mystudent, but they're playing a role.
Nothing's permanent.
I can forgive them.
And so it's not something Isay to somebody, oh, everything's
transcendent.
Don't worry about it.
But I guide them into verydifficult things that are objectively
bad, but then they're able tocome up with some of these transcendent
solutions.
And then the next thing that Ido is I don't just stop there.
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I say, well, can we go to theend of a lifetime?
Take me to the day you diedand take me to the process of leaving
your body, and what do you see?
So she says, I got quite old.
I continue teaching, and as Idie, I float out of my body like
steam, and I can look down onmy body.
And so people just do this allthe time.
They are able to spend days orweeks observing how people are grieving,
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visiting them, watching herfuneral, feeling that they're all
her students.
She got new students, and theywere able to send their love, respect
and gratitude for her.
And so then often say, well,you can look down and view all that
if you're ready.
Can you tell?
Turn around and look up.
They say, there's a light.
I'm drawn towards it.
And as I'm saying, well, whathappens if you move towards it?
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Again she starts crying, butthis time it's tears of joy.
She says.
I say, what's happening?
She's like, I'm seeing thestudents that I lost.
And now with tears of joy, she laughs.
She says, they're saying, youpassed the test.
It was resilience and persistence.
You didn't give in to angerand bitterness.
You kept learning and healingand teaching.
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And she says, well, now I knowthat something can seem very bad
or a failure, but with someperspective, everything can help
teach us a wisdom and lesson.
And now that I know this, Ican help people with that knowledge,
and I can help people withthis kind of regression.
So after the session, she wentahead and now she gave past life
regression sessions.
Her psychology colleagues thatshe was worried about gave her referrals.
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Her knees mysteriously got better.
And if you're wondering, areyou making this up?
This one I actually have on video.
It's on my YouTube channel.
It's part of a course, PastLife Regression Demonstrator.
And I interviewed her about iton my podcast.
So I've got some receipts for that.
So you teach people how to dothis as well?
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Yeah, yeah, I do.
So I find that it's one thingto learn, and I taught in person.
And there's a differencebetween getting a certificate, going
through a process,understanding what to do, but then,
like, the first six months ofreally working with real people.
So I.
I mentor people through theirfirst 30 real sessions with people.
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And half of those people have,you know, a pretty solid healing
background, like psychology.
Half of the people have hadsome pretty transcendent spiritual
experiences.
And both of those types ofpeople are able to.
To do pretty, pretty well.
Although it does help ifthey've got a good karmic connection
and some previous healing experience.
It's interesting to me.
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You remind me of a friend ofmine, Diane Goldner.
She was a journalist, like NewYork hardcore journalist back in
the day, and she wrote a storyon healers.
And so she had to study thehealers, and she kind of thought
it was bunk, you know, in thebeginning, where she kind of went
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in thinking she was smarterthan everyone else, as most skeptics
do.
And.
And what she found is that shewas a healer sort of waiting to come
out.
And she's been doing it nowfor years.
And she's very, very good atbeing a lightworker and being a healer.
But it's interesting because Ithink she would have been afraid
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in those moments when she wasmaking the leap from journalist to
healer, what people wouldthink of her, the way she thought
of those people before sheturned the corner, you know, before
she.
When she was just a hardcorejournalist, she would have viewed
them as.
As somehow.
I don't know if it's lesserthan her or from a different planet
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than she is, but probablydidn't want to be looked at through
her own eyes, you know, theway she looked at them then and now
she's one of them.
So it is interesting to seethat same thing in your clients as
well, as I'm sure you probablyexperienced maybe a little of trepidation
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over it, maybe even yourselfof, can I be more of a pioneer in
this?
Whose footsteps am I following in?
What mark am I Gonna leave.
And for me, I got a degree inpolitical science and history and
I was going, I took my LSATsand I was going to law school.
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And for me to give that up todo this, I also was one of those
people who thought because I'dseen how people viewed spiritualists,
that I would then bepersecuted and looked at in that
same light was a verydifficult decision for me to make
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in giving up what isconsidered a profession that is very
highly academic to be and beviewed with some level of respect
as an academic and then bequestioned for everything I do as
a spiritualist, as is it true?
And so that's why I went tothe laboratories in the university,
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because I needed to understandhow I was doing what I was doing.
I'm also married to a scientist.
He's, he's an astrophysicistand he's very supportive.
At the time though, it was alittle scary for both of us to go
down the path that is the onethat most people would turn away
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from and say, no, I'm going todo the safe thing.
I'm to be a lawyer.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
I mean I did have the same thing.
My, I found meditation when Iwas 25, but it was only 32 that I
became a full time professional.
Past life regression therapist.
Took eight years to sort ofintegrate it.
And a big part of it for mewas kind of the company you keep.
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So if there are people youlook up to and respect and they may
look down on you, then that'san issue that you have to go through.
You lose a lot of your own intellect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And you've got, even if it'snot somebody else, it's the own inner
voice that you have taking onsort of the things that they would
say and you sort of beatyourself up from it.
And so for me, when I wasinitially exploring hypnosis and
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regression on a meditationretreat, they were talking about
now I went there and it feltvery comfortable and it felt like
I had a lot of half formthoughts in my head that I hadn't
been able to express.
And as I studied those wisdomtraditions, I realized they were
being able to complete it andput it into words that I really thought
this is what I've been tryingto think and say my whole life.
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But then they talked aboutpast lives and reincarnation and
enlightenment and I thought,well, this is a step too far, come
on.
And they're right about a lotof stuff, that maybe they're making
this stuff up.
So I had all theseintellectual sort of concepts on
my head that were mainlyborrowed sort of knowledge, not really
wisdom.
And while I'm going throughthis whole process, they say we're
going to take a half day offfrom the meditation retreat, and
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we're going on a field trip,and we're going to have an audience
with the Dalai Lama.
So next thing I know, I'mstanding in line, and there he is,
and he's flesh and blood, buthe's also has 13 documented past
lives as a spiritual leader.
And a lot of people see him asa living, enlightened being.
And so a lot of people arebowing and can't look him in the
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eye.
And I just stuck out my hand.
Hello, how you doing?
Firm handshake, just like.
Exactly.
And he just looks at me andjust laughs at me.
And so I smile, and then it's over.
They kick me out at somebodyelse's turn.
And I'm walking away just,like, laughing at myself like, what
a goose.
And I'm smiling, then I can'tstop smiling.
And so I'm like.
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I was trying to intellectuallyfigure out, you know, up high, slides
real.
Could this be possible?
But I felt his spiritualenergy and emotion, and it transcended
my analytical mind.
And that just sort of stoppedthinking a bit.
And I felt.
I still don't know the answer,but I feel that an embodied, spiritual,
transcendent presence as possible.
And it's worthwhile continuingto explore this and keep the company
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of these kind of wise peoplewho think it's okay.
And I don't necessarily haveto get drawn back to that society
where they say it's not.
And so that's partly how, youknow, now that I live, if I live
in Asia for 25 years, as Ihave, you can be working with, like,
CEOs of software companies,and you mentioned past lives.
And they'll.
They'll talk all day aboutcode, but then they can also launch
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into a very detailed spiritualphilosophy conversation with you.
So it is sort of part of thatcultural conditioning.
And being here, I've sort ofgot used to it sort of being more
acceptable.
It is interesting when you travel.
I've been to Japan three timesto film documentaries because I wanted
to see if I could read peoplewithout understanding the language.
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And it's one of those placesthat when you come back from Japan,
you realize how uptight we arein the US and how scattered the energy
is here because people arepulling at different belief systems
constantly.
It's much more stressful herethan being in Japan.
Which everything was veryorganized and polite in culture and
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spiritual.
They have the altars for theirancestors that have passed that they
put food out for and flowersfor, and they honor them.
And I think that should benormalized in Western culture.
It's very healthy to retainand maintain that connection with
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our loved ones because they dostay in our lives and guide us.
And to me, it almost seemsabsurd for people to think that it
doesn't happen, you know,because I have seen it so many times
manifest in readings and in my.
In testing.
But I don't judge thosepeople, you know, for not believing.
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So it's sort of.
It's interesting how oneculture can really have a very even
flowing energy and othercultures can feel.
Feel highly stressful.
So people should be aware of that.
And I think people shouldtravel for that reason, just so they
could sense the difference in environment.
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Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting.
In past life regression, ofcourse, you often find yourself being
incarnated in different countries.
So even if you do travel,there are so many countries you could
go to, but why go to that country?
So even for me, you know, Iwent to India.
I went to a lot of countries,actually, but I ended up keeping
on, keeping on going back to India.
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And you think, well, why?
The west that we live in ispretty great and India is pretty
chaotic.
Yeah.
And doesn't make a lot of sense.
Right.
But the fact is, I sort ofconsider it to be kind of the worst
country in the world, but alsothe best because it's got such.
Those dualities are sochallenging that it forces you to
transcend them.
But it's also, out of allthose countries, why choose that
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one?
And so what I often find isthat people feel for some reason,
connected to a certain countryand they don't know why.
And you go back to a pastlife, and there they were.
And so for me, I had that experience.
I remembered being in a pastlife in India as a British person,
as a doctor, but feelingconflicted about my practice there,
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not wanting to do that kind ofhealing and wanting to sort of go
a little bit native.
I could see being a littlePanama Jack looking.
I could see that.
Okay.
You know, and.
And so I also remembered beingan Indian.
And so I feel that I've had anumber of past lives in India.
And I also remembered, youknow, I said I was 10 years old and
I was being a hypnotist, but Ihad another past life that was influential
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because I was thinking, well,if I'm connected to India, does that
mean I Should, you know, get ajob as a Tibetan Buddhist.
But I'm not really born as a Tibetan.
So you know, what, what am I really?
And I had a past liferegression where I saw myself in
Egypt and I felt this isthree, three and a half thousand
years ago or more.
I felt it's dark, but I'm in atemple and I'm kind of a priestly
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kind of energy and I'mwhispering to someone who's laying
out on a marble slab.
But it looks like they're kindof in hypnosis and I sense I'm guiding
them through a guided journeyto a spirit realm and past lives.
And I'm thinking, am I in apast life aggression, Remembering
being a past life regressiontherapist in a past life.
And you know, when you thinkabout it, it sounds kind of ridiculous.
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And I thought I must be makingthis up, but this time I couldn't
call my mother to check out ifit was real or not.
Right, right, right.
But, but it was the same kindof feeling.
But again, in past liferegression you can't really prove
it but.
And you don't know how itworks exactly or why it works, but
what matters is that it worksand it has a positive effect on your
life.
So yeah, sort of thatquestion, what is a 25 year old Western
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guy not into healing at all,goes to India, has some spiritual
awakenings and makes up somestories like this, but then the receipts
are there and that how could Ilive comfortably in India, which
is an odd country but I justloved it and I lived happily there
and then did become a pastlife therapist and did that happily
for 20 years.
And so there's a part wheresort of the proof is in the pudding.
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Right.
You know, and it doesn't makesense, but there was a follow through
there.
So for me that means past liferegression isn't about going back
to the past, getting hung upon who you were.
Right.
It's about being more presentwith who you really are in the moment.
Right.
Knowing what your authenticself is.
And so that way you can findand follow your highest purpose and
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working.
Through maybe even some of thewounds that you brought in and making
sense of it so that you canlive more easily.
I have actually encounteredsome people who want to know about
their past lives becausethey're unhappy with this life and
they want to lose themselvesand that they mattered at some point
in time.
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And that's so dangerousbecause they're in the now and they
need to be focusing on if I'mnot happy with My life.
What can I do to change thatin the now rather than getting caught
up in that past life hopingthat they were somebody that mattered.
Yeah, exactly.
So I don't really see thatvery much.
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People that approach me, youknow, it's really like I'm just in
a lot of pain at the momentand I've sort of tried everything
and I'm desperate and I'll trysomething ridiculous like this.
And so by the by, by the timeI get that.
And so, I mean, if people want.
Yeah, so it's often so this,you know what it is, there is some
pain there and they're sort ofgrasping and looking for a tool.
And if they expect thatthey're going to get some sort of
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ego gratification from it,they're probably not.
But if, if I were to talk tosomebody like that, I'd probably
say, you know, you've got anidea that this may connect with you.
So past life regression alsoisn't for everybody.
You know, some people have akarmic connection, some don't, and
there may just be other modalities.
So sometimes people approachme and I say, there's a better way
for you to do it or anothermodality that's better suited.
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But if I would talk to someonelike that may find out, you know,
this is maybe what you expectbecause people also bring a presenting
issue which is different to areal issue.
So no matter who I'm talkingto, they think this is what I think
the problem is and this iswhat I think the solution is.
Then we have to talk throughwith them to find out, well, this
is probably the actual problemand this is probably the actual solution.
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And if you agree to go forwardon that basis, we can do it.
And people tend to be able tofigure that out.
I think it's very fascinatingas well, in spirituality, I've come
to know, and I'm sure you haveas well.
People used to viewspirituality as something that maybe
gullible people fell for orthe uneducated or whatever they want
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to say.
Because I don't actually thinkeducation has anything to do with
a person's worth.
But people weigh it that wayin this day.
And I get a lot of veryeducated people, a lot of psychologists,
a lot of judges, a lot oflawyers and professionals.
And I think peopleunderestimate how mainstream what
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we do has become in people'slives and that it's actually healthy
to look for spiritualreasoning in physical pains as well
as issues with loss.
And I think we're starting toget there.
It's been encouraging to seethe progress there in the last 20
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years.
Exactly right.
And for hypnosis,hypnotherapy, past lives, it is positively
correlated to intelligence.
The more intelligent you are,the better you are at it.
And if anything, I have tofilter out if there would be a bottom
10% of the intelligence.
It's like it's really the mostintelligent people that are the most
capable and that I tend workwith them that come.
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Right.
So, yeah, absolutely.
And that's why it's.
I think it's important talkingabout this, so we normalize it.
So, I mean, if they're thepartner in a law firm, they don't
want to go on a podcast andtalk about it.
But most of my clients arerarely at that level that, you know,
are well educated andintelligent and all that stuff.
I.
I believe.
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Yeah.
And so.
And I think it's useful totell these stories.
So it does sort of normalize it.
Yeah.
Where.
Yeah.
And, yeah, I think we've.
We've made a lot of progressin the last 20 years that I've been
doing it in particular.
So people would thinkhypnotherapy is, you know, fears
and phobias, maybe habits.
But even in the early days,people would come and say, oh, I
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thought this was just prettybasic, but I'm going to book for
a whole different issuebecause I realize it's much more
sophisticated.
And these days, people don'teven start off with that.
They come in and it's lookingfor, you know, complex emotional,
spiritual issues rather than,you know, basic breaking a habit
kind of a thing that peopleused to think hypnotherapy was about.
Right.
So this awakening that'shappening, I'm seeing it, you know,
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daily in my practice.
So where can people find youif they want to study with you or
book a session with you?
Yeah.
Website is Past Life Awakening Institute.
YouTube is past life AwakeningInstagram, Past Life Awakening.
They're the big three.
Don't be surprised at how manyof my listeners are going to reach
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out to you.
And they will reach out, butthey're all wonderful, and I know
that they appreciate you being here.
So thank you for enlighteningmy audience.
I really enjoyed our conversation.
We'll have to have you back.
Have another talk.
I would love that.
And thank you to my listeners.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
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Today my guest is Mark Beale,a hypnotherapist and expert in past
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Mark hosts a podcast calledthe Past Life Awakening and he's
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Well, Mark, welcome to the show.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you, Alison.
Lovely to be here.
Well, it's great having you.
So you have a background ineconomics, was that correct?
You got your bachelor's in economics.
That's right.
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What made you want to be a hypnotherapist?
Well, I guess as I do thisawakening path, you're awakening
to your healer's path, butthen you have to awake from a conventional
path.
So you're right.
I was in a.
I had an economic storybecause I was a kid culturally conditioned
in the 1980s.
So I'd watch movies like Wallstreet and think, that looks cool.
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Yeah.
So I got an economics degree.
You know, I worked in tradingrooms in London, Hong Kong and Sydney.
But then I soon realized it'snot that cool.
And, and it's not for me inthe long term anyway.
It gave me good opportunitiesand I even went back and thought,
what was I thinking gettinginto this profession?
So I went back and watchedWall street and the lead character
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says, I don't really careabout this job.
All I want is to make enoughmoney so I can ride my motorcycle
across China for a year.
And I thought that was thepoint of that movie.
So I quit my job and rode amotorcycle across India for a year.
And eventually I made it tostayed in Asia for 25 years, became
a hypnotherapist, was workingin a fancy wellness resort in Thailand,
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much like the White Lotus,where Oliver Stone, the director
of Wall Street Regularly says.
And I'd seen him beinginterviewed saying, people come up
to me and say, I work in Wallstreet because of your movie.
And he thinks, well, youdidn't understand the movie.
And I thought, well, I want tobe the one guy who says, I saw Wall
street and it inspired me toquit economics and to ride a motorcycle
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to get here.
For me, the meaning of thatstory is that we can all be hypnotized
by a surface level perceptionof narratives that we receive from
culture.
And when we want to understandour past lives, the first thing to
do is to understand this life.
Because often we don't evenreally understand the life or moment
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that we're in.
And so for me, past liferegression is something I found.
And it's really about lookingat narratives and not just saying,
like, who was I?
Or what did I do?
It's what were the deep, realspiritual themes in that work of
art or the lessons that we'rewanting to learn from it?
So, yeah, I did start oneconomics, but I quickly graduated.
So I ended up writing at 25years old to a meditation retreat
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where my sort of awakeningreally began.
I've noticed that inastrology, I have a friend, Tom McMullen,
that comes on and in charts hecan see sort of some of the past
life wounds that we bring intothis lifetime.
I would imagine that some ofthe work that you do has to do with
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some of those wounds.
Why some people can't walkinto a church and then find out it's
because they were persecutedin a past life life and it was connected
to the church, or that youhave a fear of being killed because
you've been killed before oryou want to have children and you
have a.
A need, like a great need tohave children because in a.
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Maybe in a past life they weretaken from you.
So you're always worried aboutthe ones you have more so than even
other parents.
So I find that a lot of thewounds seem to come in from somewhere.
And have you ever looked atchildren with past lives?
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In what sense do you meanlooking at children?
So I've.
I saw a show called GhostInside My Child on Prime Video, and
it was just so fascinating tosee how adamant they were that they
had lived before that theirwife's name was sad era that they
had two kids and three cats.
And they're very specific.
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So have you ever encounteredanything along those lines?
Yeah, there's a lot ofresearch done by that.
There's a guy called Dr.
Ian Stevenson, and hededicated his whole life to Studying
children who report their past lives.
So he's mainly a researcher.
So I typically won't do pastlife regression for children.
But the reason I ask isbecause when people regress, we regress
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to their childhood.
And so I only work withchildren in the fact that they're
feeling vividly themselves.
And when you're talking aboutwounds, I'd like to come back to
that, because that's true.
And I've got some case studiesthat really illustrate that.
So, yes, that's a huge part ofwhat we do.
But part of the way that I doit is before I get to the wounds,
I regress people to theabilities that they have and the
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healing ability they have.
And so what that often meansis that you find their inner child's
wounds, but you find the innerchild's strengths.
And so that's something that Ifind where you take people back and
you can see, for example, withme, I thought I was some economics
guy, but when I did aregression, I found out that I was
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10 years old doing hypnosis,and I had that as a memory.
And I thought, that can't be right.
Maybe I'm making it up.
So I rang my mother and said,did I hypnotize you when I was 10?
And she said, yes, I remember it.
And I thought, really, Ithought I was making it up.
So sort of that's my childpart, where there was inner part
of me that did have that ability.
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And so then we have thisattraction to healing modalities.
But then, of course, aschildren, we may have these abilities
and they come up in this life,but then we get punished for them.
We forget them, we repressthem, we suppress them, and then
that child grows into an adultand thinks they should work on Wall
street, which is ridiculous, And.
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And they should do something else.
And so is that something I wasgoing to ask?
Well, you found your abilitiesearly, but did you.
And you had to battle thesystem, going to universities and
being tested.
But how was it for you as achild afterwards?
Were you able to speak openlyabout it or was that suppressed in
some way?
For me, in childhood, yeah, itwas surprise.
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Well, I spoke about it openly,but I was quickly deflected.
The time in which I was achild was late 70s, early 80s.
And they didn't really knowwhat to do with kids who talked about
things like ghosts and theother side, I didn't even call them
ghosts.
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I just saw them as people.
The people that would be, youknow, like my great grandfather standing
at the foot of my bed.
And that's why I have achapter in one of my books called
Kindergarten Mediums, becauseseems between 4 and 6, that kids
are able to really communicatewhat they understand to be true and
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what they're seeing.
And you start seeing that comeout where adults can make some sense
of it.
But back then, they really didn't.
And so I related to a lot ofDisney movies and movies that depicted
children seeing the other side.
And to me, that made sense.
I saw Somewhere in Time.
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I had Stephen Simon on my showwho directed Somewhere in Time.
It was his movie.
And at the end of the movie, Ilooked at my dad and I said, that
makes sense.
When I saw Jane Seymour andChristopher Reeve's character together
on the other side after theydied, I knew that that's the way
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it was.
I felt it, and it was true.
And that's just.
That was how I saw the world.
I didn't really understand whypeople were afraid of spirits in
childhood, but my mom quicklyshut me down.
When I was about six, I saw mygreat grandfather standing at the
foot of my bed.
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And it was after his funeraland we had come home that day, my
mom put me to bed, and helooked at me and he said, tell your
mom I'm not in pain anymore,and I'm still with her.
So I got out of bed and I wentin her room.
I thought she'd be reallyhappy that he was back.
And she told me to go back to bed.
And she shut me down really quickly.
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And after that, I didn't wantto share anything that I saw because
I didn't want to disappoint my mother.
So.
Yeah, that interesting.
So I've got a case study, if Icould tell you, and it's kind of
along those lines, and itanswers that question about, you
know, murders and chaos and pain.
So it reminds me of a clientof mine.
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She's actually a case study inthe book Past Life Awakening.
And she's a consulting psychologist.
So she has a conventionalbackground, but in healing.
And she was attracted tohealing, spiritual healing, but also
had an aversion to it.
And so.
And she had.
She was worried about what hercolleagues would think if she wanted
to start practicing past life regression.
And she also had.
And then people come to me.
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They've got, like, a laundrylist of issues.
She was like, and also, why amI connected to Buddhist teachers?
Why have I got inflammationsin my knee?
What am I supposed to be doingwith my life?
And so we regressed her firstto this life.
And she recalled being sort ofsix, seven years old with psychic
abilities.
And she realized, oh, mycousin is in danger.
And so she thought, I'm goingto use this ability.
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And she told her grandmotherto try and help save her cousin.
And the grandmother looked ather and slapped her in the face and
said, don't talk bad aboutyour cousin.
And a few years later, thecousin got into worse and worse company,
became a missing person, andno one's seen her for 10 years.
So the problem was her visionwas right.
But what she learned wassquash your psychic ability.
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And you're attracted tospirit, to this psychic ability,
because you, you've got anability and you feel drawn to it,
but you also feel repulsed byit because it's caused you pain in
the past.
Yes.
And so I think that'ssomething a lot of people listening
can relate to.
I think so.
So that's something that myclient experienced.
But then there's a past lifecomponent to it, as we.
Because oftentimes there's athis life cause.
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And you may think, well, thatanswers the question.
But then a past life causecame in.
So if I can tell a bit of that story.
So she was in that life.
She was a boy, and she feltherself to be dropped off at a Buddhist
monastery in Tibet in the 1930s.
So she felt a bit abandonedand left from her family.
And so she went on, and 25years later, she's a teacher helping
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the little students in the monastery.
It's in the 1950s, but I feltshe was holding something back.
And so you can have this feelof, you know, is what I'm experiencing
real?
Am I making it up?
Especially if you've just gotpictures or fuzzy pictures.
But what I want to do is getpeople to go to root emotions, and
so that way they can feel thatit's real.
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And if you go to somethingreally emotional, then you can heal
it.
And so as I was saying thesekind of words to encourage her, she
started breathing harder.
And she was like, there's somechaos approaching.
She sort of, you know, thisattraction to, I came here to heal
this, but I sort of don't wantto face it.
So I just encourage it, go toit, so you can go through it and
beyond it.
And as I'm saying that, shejust screams.
She goes, my students, shestarts sobbing.
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I say, what's happening?
She calms down a little bit,but is still crying, saying, I can't
save them.
My students are beingattacked, they're being killed.
And we just keep playing it forward.
And she recovers her calm soit's traumatic, but it's pretty manageable.
And we play it forward and wefind out that she was able to escape
and make it to India, but shehad this trauma to deal with.
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So she sat in meditation for along time processing it.
In fact, she felt sat so longthat she ended up injuring her knees.
But I asked what was theresult of the meditation.
She goes, I was teachingimpermanence, but I didn't really
fully realize it.
And I was faced my emotions ofanger and bitterness.
And I came to the conclusionthings just happen.
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It just is.
These people killed mystudent, but they're playing a role.
Nothing's permanent.
I can forgive them.
And so it's not something Isay to somebody, oh, everything's
transcendent.
Don't worry about it.
But I guide them into verydifficult things that are objectively
bad, but then they're able tocome up with some of these transcendent
solutions.
And then the next thing that Ido is I don't just stop there.
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I say, well, can we go to theend of a lifetime?
Take me to the day you diedand take me to the process of leaving
your body, and what do you see?
So she says, I got quite old.
I continue teaching, and as Idie, I float out of my body like
steam, and I can look down onmy body.
And so people just do this allthe time.
They are able to spend days orweeks observing how people are grieving,
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visiting them, watching herfuneral, feeling that they're all
her students.
She got new students, and theywere able to send their love, respect
and gratitude for her.
And so then often say, well,you can look down and view all that
if you're ready.
Can you tell?
Turn around and look up.
They say, there's a light.
I'm drawn towards it.
And as I'm saying, well, whathappens if you move towards it?
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Again she starts crying, butthis time it's tears of joy.
She says.
I say, what's happening?
She's like, I'm seeing thestudents that I lost.
And now with tears of joy, she laughs.
She says, they're saying, youpassed the test.
It was resilience and persistence.
You didn't give in to angerand bitterness.
You kept learning and healingand teaching.
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And she says, well, now I knowthat something can seem very bad
or a failure, but with someperspective, everything can help
teach us a wisdom and lesson.
And now that I know this, Ican help people with that knowledge,
and I can help people withthis kind of regression.
So after the session, she wentahead and now she gave past life
regression sessions.
Her psychology colleagues thatshe was worried about gave her referrals.
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Her knees mysteriously got better.
And if you're wondering, areyou making this up?
This one I actually have on video.
It's on my YouTube channel.
It's part of a course, PastLife Regression Demonstrator.
And I interviewed her about iton my podcast.
So I've got some receipts for that.
So you teach people how to dothis as well?
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Yeah, yeah, I do.
So I find that it's one thingto learn, and I taught in person.
And there's a differencebetween getting a certificate, going
through a process,understanding what to do, but then,
like, the first six months ofreally working with real people.
So I.
I mentor people through theirfirst 30 real sessions with people.
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And half of those people have,you know, a pretty solid healing
background, like psychology.
Half of the people have hadsome pretty transcendent spiritual
experiences.
And both of those types ofpeople are able to.
To do pretty, pretty well.
Although it does help ifthey've got a good karmic connection
and some previous healing experience.
It's interesting to me.
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You remind me of a friend ofmine, Diane Goldner.
She was a journalist, like NewYork hardcore journalist back in
the day, and she wrote a storyon healers.
And so she had to study thehealers, and she kind of thought
it was bunk, you know, in thebeginning, where she kind of went
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in thinking she was smarterthan everyone else, as most skeptics
do.
And.
And what she found is that shewas a healer sort of waiting to come
out.
And she's been doing it nowfor years.
And she's very, very good atbeing a lightworker and being a healer.
But it's interesting because Ithink she would have been afraid
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in those moments when she wasmaking the leap from journalist to
healer, what people wouldthink of her, the way she thought
of those people before sheturned the corner, you know, before
she.
When she was just a hardcorejournalist, she would have viewed
them as.
As somehow.
I don't know if it's lesserthan her or from a different planet
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than she is, but probablydidn't want to be looked at through
her own eyes, you know, theway she looked at them then and now
she's one of them.
So it is interesting to seethat same thing in your clients as
well, as I'm sure you probablyexperienced maybe a little of trepidation
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over it, maybe even yourselfof, can I be more of a pioneer in
this?
Whose footsteps am I following in?
What mark am I Gonna leave.
And for me, I got a degree inpolitical science and history and
I was going, I took my LSATsand I was going to law school.
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And for me to give that up todo this, I also was one of those
people who thought because I'dseen how people viewed spiritualists,
that I would then bepersecuted and looked at in that
same light was a verydifficult decision for me to make
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in giving up what isconsidered a profession that is very
highly academic to be and beviewed with some level of respect
as an academic and then bequestioned for everything I do as
a spiritualist, as is it true?
And so that's why I went tothe laboratories in the university,
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because I needed to understandhow I was doing what I was doing.
I'm also married to a scientist.
He's, he's an astrophysicistand he's very supportive.
At the time though, it was alittle scary for both of us to go
down the path that is the onethat most people would turn away
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from and say, no, I'm going todo the safe thing.
I'm to be a lawyer.
Absolutely, yeah, yeah.
I mean I did have the same thing.
My, I found meditation when Iwas 25, but it was only 32 that I
became a full time professional.
Past life regression therapist.
Took eight years to sort ofintegrate it.
And a big part of it for mewas kind of the company you keep.
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So if there are people youlook up to and respect and they may
look down on you, then that'san issue that you have to go through.
You lose a lot of your own intellect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And you've got, even if it'snot somebody else, it's the own inner
voice that you have taking onsort of the things that they would
say and you sort of beatyourself up from it.
And so for me, when I wasinitially exploring hypnosis and
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regression on a meditationretreat, they were talking about
now I went there and it feltvery comfortable and it felt like
I had a lot of half formthoughts in my head that I hadn't
been able to express.
And as I studied those wisdomtraditions, I realized they were
being able to complete it andput it into words that I really thought
this is what I've been tryingto think and say my whole life.
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But then they talked aboutpast lives and reincarnation and
enlightenment and I thought,well, this is a step too far, come
on.
And they're right about a lotof stuff, that maybe they're making
this stuff up.
So I had all theseintellectual sort of concepts on
my head that were mainlyborrowed sort of knowledge, not really
wisdom.
And while I'm going throughthis whole process, they say we're
going to take a half day offfrom the meditation retreat, and
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we're going on a field trip,and we're going to have an audience
with the Dalai Lama.
So next thing I know, I'mstanding in line, and there he is,
and he's flesh and blood, buthe's also has 13 documented past
lives as a spiritual leader.
And a lot of people see him asa living, enlightened being.
And so a lot of people arebowing and can't look him in the
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eye.
And I just stuck out my hand.
Hello, how you doing?
Firm handshake, just like.
Exactly.
And he just looks at me andjust laughs at me.
And so I smile, and then it's over.
They kick me out at somebodyelse's turn.
And I'm walking away just,like, laughing at myself like, what
a goose.
And I'm smiling, then I can'tstop smiling.
And so I'm like.
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I was trying to intellectuallyfigure out, you know, up high, slides
real.
Could this be possible?
But I felt his spiritualenergy and emotion, and it transcended
my analytical mind.
And that just sort of stoppedthinking a bit.
And I felt.
I still don't know the answer,but I feel that an embodied, spiritual,
transcendent presence as possible.
And it's worthwhile continuingto explore this and keep the company
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of these kind of wise peoplewho think it's okay.
And I don't necessarily haveto get drawn back to that society
where they say it's not.
And so that's partly how, youknow, now that I live, if I live
in Asia for 25 years, as Ihave, you can be working with, like,
CEOs of software companies,and you mentioned past lives.
And they'll.
They'll talk all day aboutcode, but then they can also launch
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into a very detailed spiritualphilosophy conversation with you.
So it is sort of part of thatcultural conditioning.
And being here, I've sort ofgot used to it sort of being more
acceptable.
It is interesting when you travel.
I've been to Japan three timesto film documentaries because I wanted
to see if I could read peoplewithout understanding the language.
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And it's one of those placesthat when you come back from Japan,
you realize how uptight we arein the US and how scattered the energy
is here because people arepulling at different belief systems
constantly.
It's much more stressful herethan being in Japan.
Which everything was veryorganized and polite in culture and
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spiritual.
They have the altars for theirancestors that have passed that they
put food out for and flowersfor, and they honor them.
And I think that should benormalized in Western culture.
It's very healthy to retainand maintain that connection with
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our loved ones because they dostay in our lives and guide us.
And to me, it almost seemsabsurd for people to think that it
doesn't happen, you know,because I have seen it so many times
manifest in readings and in my.
In testing.
But I don't judge thosepeople, you know, for not believing.
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So it's sort of.
It's interesting how oneculture can really have a very even
flowing energy and othercultures can feel.
Feel highly stressful.
So people should be aware of that.
And I think people shouldtravel for that reason, just so they
could sense the difference in environment.
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Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting.
In past life regression, ofcourse, you often find yourself being
incarnated in different countries.
So even if you do travel,there are so many countries you could
go to, but why go to that country?
So even for me, you know, Iwent to India.
I went to a lot of countries,actually, but I ended up keeping
on, keeping on going back to India.
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And you think, well, why?
The west that we live in ispretty great and India is pretty
chaotic.
Yeah.
And doesn't make a lot of sense.
Right.
But the fact is, I sort ofconsider it to be kind of the worst
country in the world, but alsothe best because it's got such.
Those dualities are sochallenging that it forces you to
transcend them.
But it's also, out of allthose countries, why choose that
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one?
And so what I often find isthat people feel for some reason,
connected to a certain countryand they don't know why.
And you go back to a pastlife, and there they were.
And so for me, I had that experience.
I remembered being in a pastlife in India as a British person,
as a doctor, but feelingconflicted about my practice there,
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not wanting to do that kind ofhealing and wanting to sort of go
a little bit native.
I could see being a littlePanama Jack looking.
I could see that.
Okay.
You know, and.
And so I also remembered beingan Indian.
And so I feel that I've had anumber of past lives in India.
And I also remembered, youknow, I said I was 10 years old and
I was being a hypnotist, but Ihad another past life that was influential
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because I was thinking, well,if I'm connected to India, does that
mean I Should, you know, get ajob as a Tibetan Buddhist.
But I'm not really born as a Tibetan.
So you know, what, what am I really?
And I had a past liferegression where I saw myself in
Egypt and I felt this isthree, three and a half thousand
years ago or more.
I felt it's dark, but I'm in atemple and I'm kind of a priestly
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kind of energy and I'mwhispering to someone who's laying
out on a marble slab.
But it looks like they're kindof in hypnosis and I sense I'm guiding
them through a guided journeyto a spirit realm and past lives.
And I'm thinking, am I in apast life aggression, Remembering
being a past life regressiontherapist in a past life.
And you know, when you thinkabout it, it sounds kind of ridiculous.
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And I thought I must be makingthis up, but this time I couldn't
call my mother to check out ifit was real or not.
Right, right, right.
But, but it was the same kindof feeling.
But again, in past liferegression you can't really prove
it but.
And you don't know how itworks exactly or why it works, but
what matters is that it worksand it has a positive effect on your
life.
So yeah, sort of thatquestion, what is a 25 year old Western
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guy not into healing at all,goes to India, has some spiritual
awakenings and makes up somestories like this, but then the receipts
are there and that how could Ilive comfortably in India, which
is an odd country but I justloved it and I lived happily there
and then did become a pastlife therapist and did that happily
for 20 years.
And so there's a part wheresort of the proof is in the pudding.
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Right.
You know, and it doesn't makesense, but there was a follow through
there.
So for me that means past liferegression isn't about going back
to the past, getting hung upon who you were.
Right.
It's about being more presentwith who you really are in the moment.
Right.
Knowing what your authenticself is.
And so that way you can findand follow your highest purpose and
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working.
Through maybe even some of thewounds that you brought in and making
sense of it so that you canlive more easily.
I have actually encounteredsome people who want to know about
their past lives becausethey're unhappy with this life and
they want to lose themselvesand that they mattered at some point
in time.
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And that's so dangerousbecause they're in the now and they
need to be focusing on if I'mnot happy with My life.
What can I do to change thatin the now rather than getting caught
up in that past life hopingthat they were somebody that mattered.
Yeah, exactly.
So I don't really see thatvery much.
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People that approach me, youknow, it's really like I'm just in
a lot of pain at the momentand I've sort of tried everything
and I'm desperate and I'll trysomething ridiculous like this.
And so by the by, by the timeI get that.
And so, I mean, if people want.
Yeah, so it's often so this,you know what it is, there is some
pain there and they're sort ofgrasping and looking for a tool.
And if they expect thatthey're going to get some sort of
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ego gratification from it,they're probably not.
But if, if I were to talk tosomebody like that, I'd probably
say, you know, you've got anidea that this may connect with you.
So past life regression alsoisn't for everybody.
You know, some people have akarmic connection, some don't, and
there may just be other modalities.
So sometimes people approachme and I say, there's a better way
for you to do it or anothermodality that's better suited.
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But if I would talk to someonelike that may find out, you know,
this is maybe what you expectbecause people also bring a presenting
issue which is different to areal issue.
So no matter who I'm talkingto, they think this is what I think
the problem is and this iswhat I think the solution is.
Then we have to talk throughwith them to find out, well, this
is probably the actual problemand this is probably the actual solution.
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And if you agree to go forwardon that basis, we can do it.
And people tend to be able tofigure that out.
I think it's very fascinatingas well, in spirituality, I've come
to know, and I'm sure you haveas well.
People used to viewspirituality as something that maybe
gullible people fell for orthe uneducated or whatever they want
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to say.
Because I don't actually thinkeducation has anything to do with
a person's worth.
But people weigh it that wayin this day.
And I get a lot of veryeducated people, a lot of psychologists,
a lot of judges, a lot oflawyers and professionals.
And I think peopleunderestimate how mainstream what
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we do has become in people'slives and that it's actually healthy
to look for spiritualreasoning in physical pains as well
as issues with loss.
And I think we're starting toget there.
It's been encouraging to seethe progress there in the last 20
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years.
Exactly right.
And for hypnosis,hypnotherapy, past lives, it is positively
correlated to intelligence.
The more intelligent you are,the better you are at it.
And if anything, I have tofilter out if there would be a bottom
10% of the intelligence.
It's like it's really the mostintelligent people that are the most
capable and that I tend workwith them that come.
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Right.
So, yeah, absolutely.
And that's why it's.
I think it's important talkingabout this, so we normalize it.
So, I mean, if they're thepartner in a law firm, they don't
want to go on a podcast andtalk about it.
But most of my clients arerarely at that level that, you know,
are well educated andintelligent and all that stuff.
I.
I believe.
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Yeah.
And so.
And I think it's useful totell these stories.
So it does sort of normalize it.
Yeah.
Where.
Yeah.
And, yeah, I think we've.
We've made a lot of progressin the last 20 years that I've been
doing it in particular.
So people would thinkhypnotherapy is, you know, fears
and phobias, maybe habits.
But even in the early days,people would come and say, oh, I
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thought this was just prettybasic, but I'm going to book for
a whole different issuebecause I realize it's much more
sophisticated.
And these days, people don'teven start off with that.
They come in and it's lookingfor, you know, complex emotional,
spiritual issues rather than,you know, basic breaking a habit
kind of a thing that peopleused to think hypnotherapy was about.
Right.
So this awakening that'shappening, I'm seeing it, you know,
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daily in my practice.
So where can people find youif they want to study with you or
book a session with you?
Yeah.
Website is Past Life Awakening Institute.
YouTube is past life AwakeningInstagram, Past Life Awakening.
They're the big three.
Don't be surprised at how manyof my listeners are going to reach
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out to you.
And they will reach out, butthey're all wonderful, and I know
that they appreciate you being here.
So thank you for enlighteningmy audience.
I really enjoyed our conversation.
We'll have to have you back.
Have another talk.
I would love that.
And thank you to my listeners.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
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I'm Alison Dubois.
This is the Dead Life, and toall of my believers out there, don't
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