April 15, 2025 • 35 mins
The week I invite my husband, Joe, to join me as we delve into listeners' inquiries regarding the complexities of life after death, relationships, and personal experiences with the paranormal. The primary focus of this episode is to offer insightful answers to pressing questions posed by my audience, revealing how to navigate the nuances of thrifting and the energies attached to second-hand items. Additionally, we explore themes of personal growth and the transformative nature of relationships, particularly in the context of astrology, as we discuss the challenges faced by a Virgo listener. Throughout the conversation, we reinforce the importance of trusting one's instincts and embracing the lessons and revelations that arise from various life experiences. As the episode concludes, we emphasize the significance of love and connection that transcends even the boundaries of life and death.
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Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison dubois.
Welcome to the Dead Life.
For those of you new to theshow, I'm Alison Dubois.
I inspired the hit televisionshow Medium.
I'm a New York Timesbestselling author and I've written
six books on the afterlife.
For those of you who arequestioning life after death or your
abilities, you might want topick one of those books up because
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I get a lot of the questionsthat I've written about in those
six books and it'll give youthe answers you're looking for.
Today I have my husband Joe instudio acting as my scientific sounding
board.
We're answering callingquestions sent in by my fabulous
listeners.
If you have a question aboutlife after death abilities, a paranormal
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experience or a relationshipproblem you're having, call me at
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Don't forget to pick up abottle of my divination 22 money
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So, Joe, thank you for gracingus with your presence.
Well, you're welcome.
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I love coming on the show.
Well, we appreciate you being here.
Like I said, you're myscientific sounding board in this
process.
So I'm able to give obviouslythe spiritual perspective and you're
able to give both really,because you have been around me for
quite a while and you knowboth sides.
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I'm still learning every day.
I'm still learning every day.
There's always something newto learn from the other side.
And that's why I like thecalling questions so much because
people will ask me thingsmaybe I haven't thought of in 20
years or, you know, I actuallyhave the answer in my vernacular
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of the other side but haven'treally touched on in a while.
And I find it easy to answerand then to get that question answered
for the call ins.
And I do like the relationshipquestions that they call in with
too, because what I do in lifereadings is tap into their energy
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and am able to pullinformation on the relationship.
But I always tell people, makesure you really want to know the
answer because I'm going totell you exactly what I get in regards
to your relationship.
And you could take the advice,you could leave the advice, but if
you leave the advice, don'texpect anything to change.
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That's just.
That's the way it works.
Do the work well.
And then you also have Sophiaon for those relationship questions
because she gives that nice 20something perspective.
The gen Z perspective.
I do like that as well.
We have some questions setaside that we're gonna address with
her next week, so.
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Oh, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Some of them involve TikTok.
I'm like, soph, this is not myplaying field here, Bailiwick.
Not at all.
So let's go ahead and take thefirst call in.
All right, this sounds good.
Hi, Allison.
My name is Christina, and I'ma longtime listener and longtime
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fan.
So my question pertains to thrifting.
And I know that sounds weird,but thrifting is really in right
now.
And each time I go to thethrift store, I can't help but find
something and then put it back down.
I'm wondering, or I'm asking,how do you cleanse the things that
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you thrift?
Is it with Granny Magic Sage?
Do you advise thrifting?
I just want to hear your thoughts.
Since it's such a trendingtopic, I find myself wanting to do
it and then being like, Idon't want to bring something into
my house that you know, waspreviously owned by someone.
It could be good or it couldbe bad.
So just curious your thoughtson that.
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And secondly, I am a Virgo,and I've been following kind of like
what's coming my way or what'shappening right now.
And it all comes secondary tohow I feel.
I try to kind of not let thatdictate or rule and really look at
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it unbiasedly, but, man, I amfeeling it.
I'm 31.
I'm climbing the corporate ladder.
I'm not selling my soul to doit, but, man, I am just feeling it
from all angles.
And then my husband is alsofeeling it.
He is a Sagittarius.
Oh, no, not Sagittarius.
Excuse me.
He is a Pisces.
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And, man, we are both underthe same household.
Just like, what is happeningto us?
It's uncomfortable.
It feels.
It doesn't feel unsettling ina bad way.
It just feels like we're bothbeing pulled into something better.
And with that comes change,and that is uncomfortable.
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So it's just wanted to hearyour thoughts on, like, where we
are right now for Virgos,because your girl is feeling it.
Anyways, thank you.
Love listening to you, and Ihope you have a great day.
Bye.
Okay.
So there was going to be anedit in there, but that didn't happen.
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So well, I just, I'm going toanswer both parts of the questions.
Since it's already run throughthe thrifting, can you cleanse it
with Granny Magic?
Sure.
Now, being me, I find that ifI'm in a thrift store and I get a
bad feeling or bad mojoemanating from an item, I'm not buying
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it.
So I can tell whether or notit was owned by someone who was upbeat
or low energy or dark energy.
And I think most people willget a sense of if something feels
dark in nature and it doesn'tfeel good to them.
And in that case, I say do notbring it home.
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Even if you're going tocleanse it, leave it where it's at.
It's.
It's not for you.
So you could cleanse things.
I mean, Granny Magic has allkinds of product, that is sage sprays
that she has, that sort ofthing where you can try and apply
and set your intention for theenergy that you want that item to
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have.
But psychometry exists for a reason.
Now, psychics and mediums havealways been able to hold objects
and pull impressions off of them.
If you're one of those people,you know who you are.
And when you do pick upobjects that do carry the vibration
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of people who owned it before,you get a sense of if you vibe with
it, if you don't vibe with it.
So the cleansing part, if youwant to be safe, get some sage spray,
go ahead and set yourintention for the item, what you
want to bring into your home.
If, if, if you're not assensitive, you're not, you know,
particularly good at pickingup the energies.
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I would do that.
If you are a sensitive, trustyour gut.
And if something just doesn'tfeel right, don't bring it home.
Did you have anything to addon that part?
Well, I mean, that's a really.
I think that falls in thecategory of boy.
I didn't ever really.
Well, I have thought of thatmaybe a little bit, but I don't think
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about it too much.
If somebody had really, reallystrong energy, I could see that they
have it imprinted on it.
But if it's something youreally love, you probably could override
it with your own, like, mojo.
I find the things that carrythe heaviest energy, where you would
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probably know right away is ifit was used in a murder or.
That's what I would say,something of that nature.
If you find a gun, yeah, youprobably want to turn that into that.
But yeah, day to day stuff.
But yeah, I suppose if it'ssomebody's purse.
Oh, if you get a hearttransplant, you probably pick up
a little bit on the personthat gave it to you.
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But just general thrifting, Ithink you could probably get over
that.
I think so too.
The other thing is if somebodywas in the occult and they painted
something or used an item intheir process, that could be a problem.
I gotta say, I've come acrosssome stuff like that from time to
time where you'll seesomething and I just pass it by.
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I'm just like, yeah, too much.
Yeah.
I find with art, strangely,that art is one of those artifacts
that can be a problem becausea lot of people put their intention
into.
And their vision into thecreation and.
And that can carry dark energyif they're painting something dark.
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Some people buy artists,serial killers or you know, if somebody's
just in a bad mood orsomething, I think that's something
you can easily get rid of.
It's.
If there's terror of some sortinvolved or a ritual that's of an
occult nature, that, thatwould be what I would worry more
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about.
But thrifting in general, Iwould say is not a problem, Especially
records, because people areusually pretty happy when they're
listening to music.
And if you're buying a recordthat's of a dark nature, maybe you
need to look into that whyyou're buying that in the first place.
And I'm thinking if you'rethrifting, you're thrifting in the
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part town that you're from.
And people are probably kindof like you anyway, right?
I mean, sure.
You know, some, some of thethings, when you go looking for antiques,
like real antiques, they canbe tied to somebody who got old and
died or somebody who died andtheir things are being sold.
And you know, in thosesituations there's usually nothing
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dark connected to that object.
Even if they did die, becausewe all die.
So you know that that happens.
It's.
If it was violent.
Yeah.
And I think I have to add this.
You know, if you do, we've allseen the Brady Bunch.
If you find a tiki or a monkeypaw or something like that.
If I find a monkey paw, it'sgetting slung right back.
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You're just not.
Not holding on to that.
And then she had questions about.
And of course she did becauseshe's a Virgo.
I know things not quite goingin her direction, not flowing ironically
astrologically.
We just entered a three week period.
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The only three week period of2025, where we have no planets, retrograde,
which is why everything feelsbetter to people right now, because
you don't feel like you'refighting every energy.
Even for small things, notbeing able to get them done is what
a retrograde feels like.
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When you feel like you can'tget something done, you're being
blocked.
We have none of that for thenext three weeks.
I know that Virgos wereparticularly affected over the last
couple of months, being in aPisces opposition and all of that
that they were going through.
But I always tell peoplebecause my friend Tom doesn't really
do videos for Instagram onwhat's going on astrologically.
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I.
It's written on your piece ofpaper because I made notes.
I believe it's theastrological weatherman.
Is that right?
At Spiritual Weatherman.
Spiritual Weatherman.
Thank you.
Oh, see, Disaster averted.
Right?
The spiritual weatherman.
Follow him on Instagram.
He has the funniest, mostvivacious clips, video clips for
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everything going on inastrology and specific signs that
are being affected.
So if Christina, if you wantto know what's been going on with
you, I think that would help.
I do want to point out the obvious.
She married her opposition.
So if you look six monthsacross from your birthday, that's
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our anti birthday, AKA opposition.
So the fact that they'remarried to one another, they're the
opposite end of the sameenergy, but they go about everything
completely differently.
And if things feel like theydon't flow, that could be part of
the reason.
It's not that oppositionscan't marry.
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It depends on the whole chart.
It just does add a level ofdifficulty in getting where you want
to go and having differentvisions of how to do that.
So I did think it was funnywhen she said Sagittarius.
I don't know if you caughtthat, but a girl.
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Did you date a Sagittarius inthe past?
Because that sounded.
It sounded like it might havebeen a Freudian slip of some sort
because it rolled off hertongue so easily.
It just made me curious.
Anybody else out there catch that?
So did you have any commentsaround the flow of the home?
The first thing you said aboutor the first thing that came into
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my mind was the opposition inthe marriage.
And I was like, wow, there you go.
Same end energy, just opposite sex.
It's hard enough when you'renot oppositions.
To one another that make it all.
Well, let's see, she's aVirgo, so she's gonna overanalyze
Everything, compartmentalizeand try and fix everything.
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And he may be a little bitmore go with the flow Pisces, that's
a visionary and wants to focusmore on that and looking more for
his belief systems and basingthings on how he feels as a person
in a Piscean nature is verydifferent from a Virgo who a lot
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of Virgos, and pardon me, alot of Virgos will become therapists
to try and understand theirown sort of difficult childhoods
or difficult relationships,some might even say disastrous for
some of them.
And a lot of them have victimissues in their youth where they
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were often victimized.
Not all, but many.
And so she's approachingthings in a way that's more psychological
and he may be basing itslightly more on emotional and how
he feels as a visionary.
So go find the spiritual weatherman.
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Let him lead you.
So let's go to the next one.
Hello, Allison.
I know without a doubt I am amedium and a psychic.
The main problem I have is Iget these messages randomly.
They come to me like gifts.
Messages from the other sidefor me or loved one.
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I have had some premonitionsand warnings for world.
This leads me to my question.
I have only been able tomanifest or ask the greater consciousness
and get answers with an intenta very few times.
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How can I gain in my abilitiesor what ways do I find a path to
hone my skills to ask andreceive rather than just have random
although powerful experiences.
So how do I ask what ritualscan help me to get to these messages?
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Thank you, Allison.
With much gratitude.
I think a lot of.
Have a great day.
Okay.
Is her name Lori?
Because I made notes on yourpaper there.
My notes, really?
So, Laurie, good question.
I think a lot of people wantto know how to hone their skills
and not being as randombecause it is frustrating when you
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have abilities and it justkicks in from time to time.
And for some people, that'sthe extent of their abilities.
That's what they'll find.
This is why I did create DeadUniversity for my students for people
with abilities.
And they do zoom practicesevery week where they pull impressions
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off of one another.
My experience in mediumship isnot only is practice absolutely crucial
in being able to figure outhow to hone your skills and not be
random, but because I wasbrought into a laboratory in my 20s
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and studied by scientists, Ididn't realize it was an option to
be random.
So I'm wired to be able topull that information at will.
I can only speak to my ownexperience because I Don't know how
much of a gift other people have.
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It can't be a blanket answer.
But I can say the one factorthat does apply to all skill sets
would be practicing andlearning your accuracy rate.
Also being able to tap intothe energy.
I talk to my dad when I doreadings, who's obviously passed,
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and I say, dad, please focusthe energy and turn up their volume.
And he tweaks the energy ofthe other side and helps me with
that to align our energies sothat it's a strong reading, which
is what I need every time.
We have to hit it out of thepark every time.
Unlike most professions, whichis a very high standard to be held
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to.
So if Laurie wants to do thisin a not random sort of way, it's
going to require herstrengthening her abilities and being
able to.
Once you know your accuracy ontapping into someone's energy and
making that connection and youstart writing the impressions connected
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to the person of what you'repicking up, then your accuracy level
gives you confidence to beable to do other readings and know,
no, I know what I'm hearing.
This is.
This is accurate.
You're going to figure it out.
Refer back to the informationlater, which I always hear back from
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people.
They're always shocked thatthe dead knew more than they do,
which blows my mind.
If we had all the answers, youwouldn't need people like me.
And so when you go to amedium, just be open to the fact
that you may get informationthat's counter to what you're instinctually
getting, which is what makesit valuable because it gives you
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a heads up.
But I would say learning youraccuracy rate ties directly in with
a lot of practice.
What say you?
Yeah, I remember when youstarted, there was a lot of practice
and it was really, it wasbeing honest with yourself of what
were the hits and it wasn't somuch misses, but that you knew the
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feeling of what was when youknew what you knew the feeling of
that and then you knew when itwas like your own.
You also have to learn how toread it in a different way because
you'll pull information.
For instance, you're gettingthe name Jack connected to the person
that you're reading for your sitter.
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And you keep getting Jack, butJack isn't quite.
Doesn't feel like enough.
Well, now names have morphedinto all kinds of strange avenues
and it makes it a lot harderbecause we're not dealing with our
basic vocabulary that wenormally were able to pull from.
Which is why when I do foreignreadings, I Steer clear of a lot
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of the foreign names.
But Jack can become nowJackson in energy, but it's a different
energy.
Yeah.
So learning all that and thenhaving the confidence, I think that
helps.
And maybe what her questionwas, though, how is it that when
Alison Dubois does a reading,she asked specifically, who do you
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want to bring through?
And other mediums might belike, well, they'll just bring through
whoever they can feel.
Now, part of that's becauseyour abilities are at that level
that you can pick and choose.
But I think also part of it isthat your orders and boundaries are
strong, so the other sideknows you're not talking to them
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unless it's the person you'reasking for.
And that's a little, I don'tknow, I suppose maybe you have a
reputation on the other sideof that's who you are.
And Lori would need to buildthat reputation.
I think a lot of mediums don'tknow how to stylize their abilities
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and their methods.
So for my students, I alwaystell them, if somebody has a half
hour reading booked or an hourreading booked and they want to hear
from someone in particular,you should be able to get that person,
not play the game of I'mfeeling a grandmother or I'm feeling
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an uncle, you know, and we cando that, but it takes longer to get
to the person that they wantto hear from.
You just ate up their time, itate up their money.
I find that to be a methodthat doesn't work for me because
I want to give my client thebest possible experience.
So when I do a reading, I say,who do you want brought through?
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Who are they to you?
And as soon as they say son orniece, the energy of them saying
it connects me with the personthey want to hear from.
And I immediately startwriting the impressions connected
to that person.
I think it's important toinvolve the sitter on an energy level
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in this triangulation of amediumship reading.
So maybe because I jumpedthrough all the hoops years, 25 years
ago, and I had learned thehard way and I did it in a laboratory,
maybe it made me a little moreeffective than a lot of mediums because
I knew what scientists wouldnot put up with and I knew what I
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had to be able to do in a 10minute window, not in an hour.
So I don't mean making demandson the other side, I mean making
the right connection.
So for Laurie to practice,bringing specific people through
for sitters would be very helpful.
And I suggest to all youngmediums or learning mediums out there
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that when you do a reading,ask who they want brought through.
You don't need the name, youjust need the relationship to the
person.
And that should be enough tobe able to start pulling information
in your automatic writing of impressions.
That's how it works for me.
Try it for you.
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See how that works.
When you do a reading, you dotake time beforehand to prepare.
I always kind of think of itas like a singer.
Before they go on stage, they'll.
It's not just their voice that they're.
They're getting theiremotional state to the point where
they can give what they needto give.
And for Laurie, she said itkind of comes and goes.
She doesn't know when she'sgoing to be able to do it.
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And perhaps that's what sheneeds to learn, is what that feeling
is so she can get heremotional state to that feeling,
in a sense, on command.
Well, maybe when she's sayingit comes and goes, it could actually
be that the things that she'sconsidered coming in, the information
that's coming in is stronger energy.
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It's something more important.
It's something pivotal in her life.
It's something that she can't ignore.
Even if it's just having asense that the phone's gonna ring
and it's your mother and beingright about that, the energy of the
parent is strong enough tomake it a stronger feeling.
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So it could be that, and itcan't be.
You can't constantly bepulling information through that
part of yourself 24 7.
So it's probably always there.
It's just she may have a nichein one area or another, that it comes
more easily in that way for her.
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It would be hard to saywithout seeing what she does, but
that's my advice.
Lori, Keep a diary.
You'll figure it out.
Journals out.
All right, you ready for Anne?
Born ready.
Hi, Allison.
This is Ann from Wisconsin.
I've been really enjoying your podcast.
I have a question.
My mom passed a little over 20years ago.
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She was very strict Catholic.
I really did believe if youwere gay that you would go to hell.
So my question is, my youngestdaughter, who's 23, came out to me
a few years ago that she's gay.
And I was thinking, if my momwas still alive, I wonder if she
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would disown her and disown me too.
And I'm wondering, now thatshe's on the other side, is she.
Does she still feel that way?
Or now that she can see thingsfrom the other side, does she realize
that being gay is not a sinand that it doesn't matter.
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I'm just wondering if you haveany experience with that.
Thank you so much.
Hope you have a great day.
Bye.
Okay.
The reason I wanted to addressthis particular question for Ann.
Absolutely.
Half of my friends have alwaysbeen gay.
I mean, it's just my aunt was gay.
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She was married to her, herwife for many years.
And aside from that, asidefrom my own personal feelings, what
I can tell you what I see onthe other side, I've always been
able to bring gay peoplethrough so they don't go to some
negative, dark place.
They go where people whoeither feel the way they feel are
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or with family members thatthey want to be with and friends.
So I can tell you thatabsolutely gays go where everyone
else goes.
Thank God.
Or our fashion choices wouldbe in the shitter.
I'm just kidding.
Anyways, they've done researchon that.
That the world would be anuglier place.
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It definitely would.
That's so funny.
So what I would say is I havespoken to Father Nathan.
I've known him for about 20,20 plus years, and he's a Catholic
priest.
I said to him, go whereeveryone else goes.
And we had this conversation along time ago over dinner, he and
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I.
He acknowledged that he's oneof the only practicing mediums in
the Catholic Church that isallowed to do so and keep his collar,
basically.
So I think there's a lot ofacknowledgment from people that are
sensitives of all walks oflife, including priests, that gays
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do go where everyone else goes.
Now, as far as her mom goes,who was highly Catholic, that's the
belief system that her motherfound comfort in and aligned with.
And that's fine.
However, once we cross, ourperspective does shift some.
I find people show far lessabout religious artifacts on the
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other side than people would think.
It's more about the food, themusic, the laughter, falling in love.
The more tormented people arein life, the younger they become.
Like they go back in age whenthey cross.
But her perspective would shift.
She would have clarity on thegranddaughter and how the granddaughter
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feels.
And when we become that energysource once we cross, all of the
things that we learned thatdidn't have an emotional pulse to
it, but maybe was from atextbook, but a belief system, the
weight of it becomes less.
I don't know if people canunderstand what I'm saying.
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It just.
Our soul is.
Its focus is on the happinessand well being of people we love.
I can say Ann's mom would carefar more about her granddaughter
being safe, happy, fulfilledthan she would be about her granddaughter
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and who she's with.
She would just have far lessof a focus on that.
So, Ann, if you are seekinganswers, you can reach out to Father
Nathan Castle.
He's great.
Maybe he can answer some ofthose questions from a religious
perspective for you.
Which is why I included him inmy book We Are There Heaven.
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Because I wanted to answerthat for people who are religious
so that they can rest assuredthat suicides don't go to hell.
And neither do people whohappen to have a preference.
That in my opinion, isn'tsomething they choose.
It's just, it's part of whothey are.
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We're not faulted for that.
It's who our spirit is.
And aren't we all perfect?
That's the way it's supposedto be.
God doesn't make junk.
Right?
Right.
What happened to that?
So let's go back to that whereeverybody is made and sort of who
they are.
And then some of what webecome is learned or from our environmental
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pressures that we have in ourlife, influences that we have in
our life.
I would just put out to Annthat just live your life, love your
daughter and know that yourmom's around you, loving you, protecting
you, with no judgment.
Because the thing that theother side isn't is judgmental.
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It's an energy.
It's an energy place ofexistence where like energy vibes
to like energy.
So good people are around good people.
Which is why I don't seekillers, murderers, rapists around
their victims because they'redifferent energy levels.
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And that's what you eitherrise to or sink to.
So it's interesting that wetalk about a heaven and a hell because
a heaven we always have up here.
Which would be accuratebecause it seems that there's a higher
frequency in people that are good.
And when people are, they lackempathy, they destroy their destructive
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energies.
They have this low frequencyenergy, this bad vibe to them.
And they kind of come togetherwith other energies that are similar
to that.
That's my view.
How I've seen the other side.
After people die, what happens?
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Her mother, Ann's mothersounds like she was a good person.
She was of a differentgeneration that may not have understood
what the granddaughter was experiencing.
Because in the grandmother'sgeneration, it was something that
you, you hid and you livedyour life and you did what was expected
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of you.
As time goes on, although somethings get not so good, other things
do improve in that people areaccepted for who they love.
I think a lot of people havegotten to that place and we just
don't care.
In a sense, it's like, go, be happy.
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Go do what you want to do.
I don't need to hear about it.
Do what you want to do.
Be happy.
And that's all good now,because this is family for Ann.
Anybody that her daughterdraws into her life that's there
to love, protect, and cherishher, I'm sure Ann is going to love.
But she doesn't have to worryabout her mother's judgment concerning
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how her.
How the granddaughter, Ann'sdaughter, is living her life.
So Anne's mother will be therewelcoming her daughter when she crosses.
She'll be there for Ann.
She'll be there for the granddaughter.
And if the granddaughter's introuble and needs buffering or protection,
the grandmother will be thereto serve that for her, service that
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for her as well.
Because underneath it all, sheloves her daughter and she loves
her granddaughter.
And that's what becomes thecenter of all of our function on
the other side is loving andprotecting and guiding, which is
exactly what the grandmotherwould want to do.
So, yes, the grandmother wouldhave a clearer perspective of that
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dynamic.
Excellent.
Okay.
Okay.
I hope that answered that.
I think that answered that.
And I think that you justdictated a chapter in your next book.
You've covered a lot of groundwith that one.
I will.
I hope so.
Thank you.
Thank you for being here, Joe.
And I'm sure I'll see you again.
I'm sure.
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Maybe like in five minuteswhen we're done and we're in the
car together.
Right.
Having dinner.
Right.
Sounds good.
I'll be there.
Yeah.
Thanks for the invite andthank you to my listeners.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
I'm Alison Dubois.
This is the Dead Life.
And to all of my believers outthere, don't stop believing.
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Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison dubois.
Welcome to the Dead Life.
For those of you new to theshow, I'm Alison Dubois.
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I'm a New York Timesbestselling author and I've written
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We're answering callingquestions sent in by my fabulous
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So, Joe, thank you for gracingus with your presence.
Well, you're welcome.
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I love coming on the show.
Well, we appreciate you being here.
Like I said, you're myscientific sounding board in this
process.
So I'm able to give obviouslythe spiritual perspective and you're
able to give both really,because you have been around me for
quite a while and you knowboth sides.
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I'm still learning every day.
I'm still learning every day.
There's always something newto learn from the other side.
And that's why I like thecalling questions so much because
people will ask me thingsmaybe I haven't thought of in 20
years or, you know, I actuallyhave the answer in my vernacular
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of the other side but haven'treally touched on in a while.
And I find it easy to answerand then to get that question answered
for the call ins.
And I do like the relationshipquestions that they call in with
too, because what I do in lifereadings is tap into their energy
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and am able to pullinformation on the relationship.
But I always tell people, makesure you really want to know the
answer because I'm going totell you exactly what I get in regards
to your relationship.
And you could take the advice,you could leave the advice, but if
you leave the advice, don'texpect anything to change.
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That's just.
That's the way it works.
Do the work well.
And then you also have Sophiaon for those relationship questions
because she gives that nice 20something perspective.
The gen Z perspective.
I do like that as well.
We have some questions setaside that we're gonna address with
her next week, so.
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Oh, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Some of them involve TikTok.
I'm like, soph, this is not myplaying field here, Bailiwick.
Not at all.
So let's go ahead and take thefirst call in.
All right, this sounds good.
Hi, Allison.
My name is Christina, and I'ma longtime listener and longtime
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fan.
So my question pertains to thrifting.
And I know that sounds weird,but thrifting is really in right
now.
And each time I go to thethrift store, I can't help but find
something and then put it back down.
I'm wondering, or I'm asking,how do you cleanse the things that
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you thrift?
Is it with Granny Magic Sage?
Do you advise thrifting?
I just want to hear your thoughts.
Since it's such a trendingtopic, I find myself wanting to do
it and then being like, Idon't want to bring something into
my house that you know, waspreviously owned by someone.
It could be good or it couldbe bad.
So just curious your thoughtson that.
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And secondly, I am a Virgo,and I've been following kind of like
what's coming my way or what'shappening right now.
And it all comes secondary tohow I feel.
I try to kind of not let thatdictate or rule and really look at
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it unbiasedly, but, man, I amfeeling it.
I'm 31.
I'm climbing the corporate ladder.
I'm not selling my soul to doit, but, man, I am just feeling it
from all angles.
And then my husband is alsofeeling it.
He is a Sagittarius.
Oh, no, not Sagittarius.
Excuse me.
He is a Pisces.
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And, man, we are both underthe same household.
Just like, what is happeningto us?
It's uncomfortable.
It feels.
It doesn't feel unsettling ina bad way.
It just feels like we're bothbeing pulled into something better.
And with that comes change,and that is uncomfortable.
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So it's just wanted to hearyour thoughts on, like, where we
are right now for Virgos,because your girl is feeling it.
Anyways, thank you.
Love listening to you, and Ihope you have a great day.
Bye.
Okay.
So there was going to be anedit in there, but that didn't happen.
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So well, I just, I'm going toanswer both parts of the questions.
Since it's already run throughthe thrifting, can you cleanse it
with Granny Magic?
Sure.
Now, being me, I find that ifI'm in a thrift store and I get a
bad feeling or bad mojoemanating from an item, I'm not buying
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it.
So I can tell whether or notit was owned by someone who was upbeat
or low energy or dark energy.
And I think most people willget a sense of if something feels
dark in nature and it doesn'tfeel good to them.
And in that case, I say do notbring it home.
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Even if you're going tocleanse it, leave it where it's at.
It's.
It's not for you.
So you could cleanse things.
I mean, Granny Magic has allkinds of product, that is sage sprays
that she has, that sort ofthing where you can try and apply
and set your intention for theenergy that you want that item to
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have.
But psychometry exists for a reason.
Now, psychics and mediums havealways been able to hold objects
and pull impressions off of them.
If you're one of those people,you know who you are.
And when you do pick upobjects that do carry the vibration
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of people who owned it before,you get a sense of if you vibe with
it, if you don't vibe with it.
So the cleansing part, if youwant to be safe, get some sage spray,
go ahead and set yourintention for the item, what you
want to bring into your home.
If, if, if you're not assensitive, you're not, you know,
particularly good at pickingup the energies.
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I would do that.
If you are a sensitive, trustyour gut.
And if something just doesn'tfeel right, don't bring it home.
Did you have anything to addon that part?
Well, I mean, that's a really.
I think that falls in thecategory of boy.
I didn't ever really.
Well, I have thought of thatmaybe a little bit, but I don't think
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about it too much.
If somebody had really, reallystrong energy, I could see that they
have it imprinted on it.
But if it's something youreally love, you probably could override
it with your own, like, mojo.
I find the things that carrythe heaviest energy, where you would
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probably know right away is ifit was used in a murder or.
That's what I would say,something of that nature.
If you find a gun, yeah, youprobably want to turn that into that.
But yeah, day to day stuff.
But yeah, I suppose if it'ssomebody's purse.
Oh, if you get a hearttransplant, you probably pick up
a little bit on the personthat gave it to you.
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But just general thrifting, Ithink you could probably get over
that.
I think so too.
The other thing is if somebodywas in the occult and they painted
something or used an item intheir process, that could be a problem.
I gotta say, I've come acrosssome stuff like that from time to
time where you'll seesomething and I just pass it by.
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I'm just like, yeah, too much.
Yeah.
I find with art, strangely,that art is one of those artifacts
that can be a problem becausea lot of people put their intention
into.
And their vision into thecreation and.
And that can carry dark energyif they're painting something dark.
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Some people buy artists,serial killers or you know, if somebody's
just in a bad mood orsomething, I think that's something
you can easily get rid of.
It's.
If there's terror of some sortinvolved or a ritual that's of an
occult nature, that, thatwould be what I would worry more
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about.
But thrifting in general, Iwould say is not a problem, Especially
records, because people areusually pretty happy when they're
listening to music.
And if you're buying a recordthat's of a dark nature, maybe you
need to look into that whyyou're buying that in the first place.
And I'm thinking if you'rethrifting, you're thrifting in the
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part town that you're from.
And people are probably kindof like you anyway, right?
I mean, sure.
You know, some, some of thethings, when you go looking for antiques,
like real antiques, they canbe tied to somebody who got old and
died or somebody who died andtheir things are being sold.
And you know, in thosesituations there's usually nothing
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dark connected to that object.
Even if they did die, becausewe all die.
So you know that that happens.
It's.
If it was violent.
Yeah.
And I think I have to add this.
You know, if you do, we've allseen the Brady Bunch.
If you find a tiki or a monkeypaw or something like that.
If I find a monkey paw, it'sgetting slung right back.
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You're just not.
Not holding on to that.
And then she had questions about.
And of course she did becauseshe's a Virgo.
I know things not quite goingin her direction, not flowing ironically
astrologically.
We just entered a three week period.
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The only three week period of2025, where we have no planets, retrograde,
which is why everything feelsbetter to people right now, because
you don't feel like you'refighting every energy.
Even for small things, notbeing able to get them done is what
a retrograde feels like.
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When you feel like you can'tget something done, you're being
blocked.
We have none of that for thenext three weeks.
I know that Virgos wereparticularly affected over the last
couple of months, being in aPisces opposition and all of that
that they were going through.
But I always tell peoplebecause my friend Tom doesn't really
do videos for Instagram onwhat's going on astrologically.
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I.
It's written on your piece ofpaper because I made notes.
I believe it's theastrological weatherman.
Is that right?
At Spiritual Weatherman.
Spiritual Weatherman.
Thank you.
Oh, see, Disaster averted.
Right?
The spiritual weatherman.
Follow him on Instagram.
He has the funniest, mostvivacious clips, video clips for
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everything going on inastrology and specific signs that
are being affected.
So if Christina, if you wantto know what's been going on with
you, I think that would help.
I do want to point out the obvious.
She married her opposition.
So if you look six monthsacross from your birthday, that's
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our anti birthday, AKA opposition.
So the fact that they'remarried to one another, they're the
opposite end of the sameenergy, but they go about everything
completely differently.
And if things feel like theydon't flow, that could be part of
the reason.
It's not that oppositionscan't marry.
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It depends on the whole chart.
It just does add a level ofdifficulty in getting where you want
to go and having differentvisions of how to do that.
So I did think it was funnywhen she said Sagittarius.
I don't know if you caughtthat, but a girl.
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Did you date a Sagittarius inthe past?
Because that sounded.
It sounded like it might havebeen a Freudian slip of some sort
because it rolled off hertongue so easily.
It just made me curious.
Anybody else out there catch that?
So did you have any commentsaround the flow of the home?
The first thing you said aboutor the first thing that came into
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my mind was the opposition inthe marriage.
And I was like, wow, there you go.
Same end energy, just opposite sex.
It's hard enough when you'renot oppositions.
To one another that make it all.
Well, let's see, she's aVirgo, so she's gonna overanalyze
Everything, compartmentalizeand try and fix everything.
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And he may be a little bitmore go with the flow Pisces, that's
a visionary and wants to focusmore on that and looking more for
his belief systems and basingthings on how he feels as a person
in a Piscean nature is verydifferent from a Virgo who a lot
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of Virgos, and pardon me, alot of Virgos will become therapists
to try and understand theirown sort of difficult childhoods
or difficult relationships,some might even say disastrous for
some of them.
And a lot of them have victimissues in their youth where they
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were often victimized.
Not all, but many.
And so she's approachingthings in a way that's more psychological
and he may be basing itslightly more on emotional and how
he feels as a visionary.
So go find the spiritual weatherman.
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Let him lead you.
So let's go to the next one.
Hello, Allison.
I know without a doubt I am amedium and a psychic.
The main problem I have is Iget these messages randomly.
They come to me like gifts.
Messages from the other sidefor me or loved one.
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I have had some premonitionsand warnings for world.
This leads me to my question.
I have only been able tomanifest or ask the greater consciousness
and get answers with an intenta very few times.
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How can I gain in my abilitiesor what ways do I find a path to
hone my skills to ask andreceive rather than just have random
although powerful experiences.
So how do I ask what ritualscan help me to get to these messages?
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Thank you, Allison.
With much gratitude.
I think a lot of.
Have a great day.
Okay.
Is her name Lori?
Because I made notes on yourpaper there.
My notes, really?
So, Laurie, good question.
I think a lot of people wantto know how to hone their skills
and not being as randombecause it is frustrating when you
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have abilities and it justkicks in from time to time.
And for some people, that'sthe extent of their abilities.
That's what they'll find.
This is why I did create DeadUniversity for my students for people
with abilities.
And they do zoom practicesevery week where they pull impressions
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off of one another.
My experience in mediumship isnot only is practice absolutely crucial
in being able to figure outhow to hone your skills and not be
random, but because I wasbrought into a laboratory in my 20s
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and studied by scientists, Ididn't realize it was an option to
be random.
So I'm wired to be able topull that information at will.
I can only speak to my ownexperience because I Don't know how
much of a gift other people have.
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It can't be a blanket answer.
But I can say the one factorthat does apply to all skill sets
would be practicing andlearning your accuracy rate.
Also being able to tap intothe energy.
I talk to my dad when I doreadings, who's obviously passed,
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and I say, dad, please focusthe energy and turn up their volume.
And he tweaks the energy ofthe other side and helps me with
that to align our energies sothat it's a strong reading, which
is what I need every time.
We have to hit it out of thepark every time.
Unlike most professions, whichis a very high standard to be held
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to.
So if Laurie wants to do thisin a not random sort of way, it's
going to require herstrengthening her abilities and being
able to.
Once you know your accuracy ontapping into someone's energy and
making that connection and youstart writing the impressions connected
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to the person of what you'repicking up, then your accuracy level
gives you confidence to beable to do other readings and know,
no, I know what I'm hearing.
This is.
This is accurate.
You're going to figure it out.
Refer back to the informationlater, which I always hear back from
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people.
They're always shocked thatthe dead knew more than they do,
which blows my mind.
If we had all the answers, youwouldn't need people like me.
And so when you go to amedium, just be open to the fact
that you may get informationthat's counter to what you're instinctually
getting, which is what makesit valuable because it gives you
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a heads up.
But I would say learning youraccuracy rate ties directly in with
a lot of practice.
What say you?
Yeah, I remember when youstarted, there was a lot of practice
and it was really, it wasbeing honest with yourself of what
were the hits and it wasn't somuch misses, but that you knew the
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feeling of what was when youknew what you knew the feeling of
that and then you knew when itwas like your own.
You also have to learn how toread it in a different way because
you'll pull information.
For instance, you're gettingthe name Jack connected to the person
that you're reading for your sitter.
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And you keep getting Jack, butJack isn't quite.
Doesn't feel like enough.
Well, now names have morphedinto all kinds of strange avenues
and it makes it a lot harderbecause we're not dealing with our
basic vocabulary that wenormally were able to pull from.
Which is why when I do foreignreadings, I Steer clear of a lot
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of the foreign names.
But Jack can become nowJackson in energy, but it's a different
energy.
Yeah.
So learning all that and thenhaving the confidence, I think that
helps.
And maybe what her questionwas, though, how is it that when
Alison Dubois does a reading,she asked specifically, who do you
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want to bring through?
And other mediums might belike, well, they'll just bring through
whoever they can feel.
Now, part of that's becauseyour abilities are at that level
that you can pick and choose.
But I think also part of it isthat your orders and boundaries are
strong, so the other sideknows you're not talking to them
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unless it's the person you'reasking for.
And that's a little, I don'tknow, I suppose maybe you have a
reputation on the other sideof that's who you are.
And Lori would need to buildthat reputation.
I think a lot of mediums don'tknow how to stylize their abilities
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and their methods.
So for my students, I alwaystell them, if somebody has a half
hour reading booked or an hourreading booked and they want to hear
from someone in particular,you should be able to get that person,
not play the game of I'mfeeling a grandmother or I'm feeling
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an uncle, you know, and we cando that, but it takes longer to get
to the person that they wantto hear from.
You just ate up their time, itate up their money.
I find that to be a methodthat doesn't work for me because
I want to give my client thebest possible experience.
So when I do a reading, I say,who do you want brought through?
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Who are they to you?
And as soon as they say son orniece, the energy of them saying
it connects me with the personthey want to hear from.
And I immediately startwriting the impressions connected
to that person.
I think it's important toinvolve the sitter on an energy level
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in this triangulation of amediumship reading.
So maybe because I jumpedthrough all the hoops years, 25 years
ago, and I had learned thehard way and I did it in a laboratory,
maybe it made me a little moreeffective than a lot of mediums because
I knew what scientists wouldnot put up with and I knew what I
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had to be able to do in a 10minute window, not in an hour.
So I don't mean making demandson the other side, I mean making
the right connection.
So for Laurie to practice,bringing specific people through
for sitters would be very helpful.
And I suggest to all youngmediums or learning mediums out there
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that when you do a reading,ask who they want brought through.
You don't need the name, youjust need the relationship to the
person.
And that should be enough tobe able to start pulling information
in your automatic writing of impressions.
That's how it works for me.
Try it for you.
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See how that works.
When you do a reading, you dotake time beforehand to prepare.
I always kind of think of itas like a singer.
Before they go on stage, they'll.
It's not just their voice that they're.
They're getting theiremotional state to the point where
they can give what they needto give.
And for Laurie, she said itkind of comes and goes.
She doesn't know when she'sgoing to be able to do it.
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And perhaps that's what sheneeds to learn, is what that feeling
is so she can get heremotional state to that feeling,
in a sense, on command.
Well, maybe when she's sayingit comes and goes, it could actually
be that the things that she'sconsidered coming in, the information
that's coming in is stronger energy.
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It's something more important.
It's something pivotal in her life.
It's something that she can't ignore.
Even if it's just having asense that the phone's gonna ring
and it's your mother and beingright about that, the energy of the
parent is strong enough tomake it a stronger feeling.
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So it could be that, and itcan't be.
You can't constantly bepulling information through that
part of yourself 24 7.
So it's probably always there.
It's just she may have a nichein one area or another, that it comes
more easily in that way for her.
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It would be hard to saywithout seeing what she does, but
that's my advice.
Lori, Keep a diary.
You'll figure it out.
Journals out.
All right, you ready for Anne?
Born ready.
Hi, Allison.
This is Ann from Wisconsin.
I've been really enjoying your podcast.
I have a question.
My mom passed a little over 20years ago.
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She was very strict Catholic.
I really did believe if youwere gay that you would go to hell.
So my question is, my youngestdaughter, who's 23, came out to me
a few years ago that she's gay.
And I was thinking, if my momwas still alive, I wonder if she
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would disown her and disown me too.
And I'm wondering, now thatshe's on the other side, is she.
Does she still feel that way?
Or now that she can see thingsfrom the other side, does she realize
that being gay is not a sinand that it doesn't matter.
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I'm just wondering if you haveany experience with that.
Thank you so much.
Hope you have a great day.
Bye.
Okay.
The reason I wanted to addressthis particular question for Ann.
Absolutely.
Half of my friends have alwaysbeen gay.
I mean, it's just my aunt was gay.
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She was married to her, herwife for many years.
And aside from that, asidefrom my own personal feelings, what
I can tell you what I see onthe other side, I've always been
able to bring gay peoplethrough so they don't go to some
negative, dark place.
They go where people whoeither feel the way they feel are
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or with family members thatthey want to be with and friends.
So I can tell you thatabsolutely gays go where everyone
else goes.
Thank God.
Or our fashion choices wouldbe in the shitter.
I'm just kidding.
Anyways, they've done researchon that.
That the world would be anuglier place.
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It definitely would.
That's so funny.
So what I would say is I havespoken to Father Nathan.
I've known him for about 20,20 plus years, and he's a Catholic
priest.
I said to him, go whereeveryone else goes.
And we had this conversation along time ago over dinner, he and
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I.
He acknowledged that he's oneof the only practicing mediums in
the Catholic Church that isallowed to do so and keep his collar,
basically.
So I think there's a lot ofacknowledgment from people that are
sensitives of all walks oflife, including priests, that gays
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do go where everyone else goes.
Now, as far as her mom goes,who was highly Catholic, that's the
belief system that her motherfound comfort in and aligned with.
And that's fine.
However, once we cross, ourperspective does shift some.
I find people show far lessabout religious artifacts on the
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other side than people would think.
It's more about the food, themusic, the laughter, falling in love.
The more tormented people arein life, the younger they become.
Like they go back in age whenthey cross.
But her perspective would shift.
She would have clarity on thegranddaughter and how the granddaughter
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feels.
And when we become that energysource once we cross, all of the
things that we learned thatdidn't have an emotional pulse to
it, but maybe was from atextbook, but a belief system, the
weight of it becomes less.
I don't know if people canunderstand what I'm saying.
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It just.
Our soul is.
Its focus is on the happinessand well being of people we love.
I can say Ann's mom would carefar more about her granddaughter
being safe, happy, fulfilledthan she would be about her granddaughter
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and who she's with.
She would just have far lessof a focus on that.
So, Ann, if you are seekinganswers, you can reach out to Father
Nathan Castle.
He's great.
Maybe he can answer some ofthose questions from a religious
perspective for you.
Which is why I included him inmy book We Are There Heaven.
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Because I wanted to answerthat for people who are religious
so that they can rest assuredthat suicides don't go to hell.
And neither do people whohappen to have a preference.
That in my opinion, isn'tsomething they choose.
It's just, it's part of whothey are.
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We're not faulted for that.
It's who our spirit is.
And aren't we all perfect?
That's the way it's supposedto be.
God doesn't make junk.
Right?
Right.
What happened to that?
So let's go back to that whereeverybody is made and sort of who
they are.
And then some of what webecome is learned or from our environmental
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pressures that we have in ourlife, influences that we have in
our life.
I would just put out to Annthat just live your life, love your
daughter and know that yourmom's around you, loving you, protecting
you, with no judgment.
Because the thing that theother side isn't is judgmental.
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It's an energy.
It's an energy place ofexistence where like energy vibes
to like energy.
So good people are around good people.
Which is why I don't seekillers, murderers, rapists around
their victims because they'redifferent energy levels.
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And that's what you eitherrise to or sink to.
So it's interesting that wetalk about a heaven and a hell because
a heaven we always have up here.
Which would be accuratebecause it seems that there's a higher
frequency in people that are good.
And when people are, they lackempathy, they destroy their destructive
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energies.
They have this low frequencyenergy, this bad vibe to them.
And they kind of come togetherwith other energies that are similar
to that.
That's my view.
How I've seen the other side.
After people die, what happens?
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Her mother, Ann's mothersounds like she was a good person.
She was of a differentgeneration that may not have understood
what the granddaughter was experiencing.
Because in the grandmother'sgeneration, it was something that
you, you hid and you livedyour life and you did what was expected
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of you.
As time goes on, although somethings get not so good, other things
do improve in that people areaccepted for who they love.
I think a lot of people havegotten to that place and we just
don't care.
In a sense, it's like, go, be happy.
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Go do what you want to do.
I don't need to hear about it.
Do what you want to do.
Be happy.
And that's all good now,because this is family for Ann.
Anybody that her daughterdraws into her life that's there
to love, protect, and cherishher, I'm sure Ann is going to love.
But she doesn't have to worryabout her mother's judgment concerning
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how her.
How the granddaughter, Ann'sdaughter, is living her life.
So Anne's mother will be therewelcoming her daughter when she crosses.
She'll be there for Ann.
She'll be there for the granddaughter.
And if the granddaughter's introuble and needs buffering or protection,
the grandmother will be thereto serve that for her, service that
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for her as well.
Because underneath it all, sheloves her daughter and she loves
her granddaughter.
And that's what becomes thecenter of all of our function on
the other side is loving andprotecting and guiding, which is
exactly what the grandmotherwould want to do.
So, yes, the grandmother wouldhave a clearer perspective of that
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dynamic.
Excellent.
Okay.
Okay.
I hope that answered that.
I think that answered that.
And I think that you justdictated a chapter in your next book.
You've covered a lot of groundwith that one.
I will.
I hope so.
Thank you.
Thank you for being here, Joe.
And I'm sure I'll see you again.
I'm sure.
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Maybe like in five minuteswhen we're done and we're in the
car together.
Right.
Having dinner.
Right.
Sounds good.
I'll be there.
Yeah.
Thanks for the invite andthank you to my listeners.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
I'm Alison Dubois.
This is the Dead Life.
And to all of my believers outthere, don't stop believing.
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