January 14, 2025 • 42 mins
Diane Goldner, a world-renowned healer and professor at Dead University, joins Allison DuBois to explore the transformative power of energy healing, particularly for emotional wounds rooted in childhood. The discussion highlights how emotional issues can manifest as physical ailments and emphasizes the importance of addressing these underlying feelings for true healing. Diane shares her journey from a skeptical journalist to a devoted healer, illustrating the profound impact of her work on clients dealing with infertility and chronic pain. The episode also touches on the significance of gratitude in the healing process and the necessity of self-reflection in breaking generational patterns. Together, Allison and Diane delve into the complexities of healing relationships, both with ourselves and others, encouraging listeners to embrace their own healing journeys.
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Welcome to the Dead Life.
Here's world renowned mediumAlison dubois.
Today on the Dead Life, wewelcome Diane Goldner, world renowned
healer, Dead University'sprofessor of healing.
She was a journalist whostarted investigating energy healing
for an investigativejournalistic story.
Diane came in feelingskeptical and then she became a convert
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who gave up her path injournalism to become an extraordinary
healer who loves helpingcouples with infertility issues.
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So, Diane, welcome back.
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It's great to be here.
Oh, it's always great to have you.
I'm sorry that it's taken thislong for us to reconnect.
What a year, huh?
It's what a year.
The timing is always perfect.
So this is perfect.
That was a year of transformation.
And people think of the wordtrans as oh, yay.
We see the good things.
It's going to get us where weneed to go.
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But it's much like childbirth.
It's ugly and painful.
And as we pass 2024 was a yearthat made us look deep and actually
get people out of your life.
That process started in theeight year of 2024, expelling people
from your life that don'tserve your purpose any longer.
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And we're going into a nineyear, a year of endings which will
end things the way they'vebeen in the last nine years and then
even before that because Plutowent into Aquarius.
But that's a whole other subject.
So going into 2025, manypeople are looking to heal scars
from their childhood.
Can you use light work to healemotional wounds?
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Oh, my God, for sure.
In fact, I would say thatalmost all physical issues really
start on other levels, theemotional level being one.
So, so you can have, you know,years go by and then all of a sudden
you wonder why you're not, youdon't feel well, but it's emotions
that have been, you don't evenrealize what the emotions are.
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They're kind of locked up inyour energy field and an energy healing
will start releasing them.
And as your emotions flow, youwill feel better, your relationships
get better.
And do you do that, do you dothat through like visualization techniques
or how does that work in healing?
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When I'm doing a healing, itreally works with me going into somebody's
energy field.
It's literally like we begin vibrating.
I can really feel what aperson is experiencing, maybe on
a deeper level than they'reconscious of.
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What's coming to my mind is aman who had lost the hearing in one
ear and was.
They had just found a shadowin the other ear and so they were
concerned it was a tumor inthe first year and they were concerned
he was getting a tumor in thesecond year.
That would be a concern.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally deaf.
Yes.
So he wasn't the kind of guy.
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He was a hard charging executive.
I tend to see more of thoseand maybe some healers who did not
believe in healing.
But a friend of him said, whatdo you have to lose?
Right.
You're hearing well and youcome from that background as well,
like you didn't know what tomake of it.
So I think that's reassuringto people.
Yeah.
And I speak that language, sothat's also reassuring.
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So anyway, when I starteddoing the healing, I saw him as a
child.
Since we're talking aboutchildhood wounds, that's why I'm
bringing this one up.
I saw him as a child.
He had been a long distanceswimmer and I saw him swimming in
the ocean and so happy.
Happy because all the sound ismuffled when you're swimming in the
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ocean, in any water.
Right.
You don't really hear whatelse is going on.
And so I asked what was it hedidn't want to hear?
And it was his father yellingat him.
So this is how these emotionsthat get stuck in our body can really
have a long term effect.
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They manifest all of that.
I told him what I had seen andwhat I did and he, he just looked
at me in complete shock.
It's like, oh my God, you'vejust described my whole childhood.
So very often what I'm reallyworking on, even when I'm working
on a physical issue, isemotions or beliefs or thoughts that
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are no longer serving the person.
You know, it's so interestingto see the different methods of healing
that can be used.
And almost everything goesback to our childhood.
And it's more incentive forparents to really work with their
kids in childhood because itsets the tone for a lot of people's
lives.
It does.
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But you know, the thing is,most people are Just human.
And so they've come with theirown childhood wounds, and it goes
from generation to generation.
And unless you say the bug stops.
Here, Karmic patterns that youhave to.
Break your karma patterns.
And they're tough, you know,and everyone has them.
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So one of the things thathelps break these patterns is, you
know, a lot of times we turnaround and then we're angry that
our parents have thesepatterns, you know, that, you know,
the father was an alcoholicor, you know, the parents didn't
get along, whatever it was.
And you know, that anger is abinding force to the same energies
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that you want to heal from.
So the best thing.
And I've had clients whereI've told them they should do a practice
of gratitude, and they'relike, going to do that.
But truly, it is very healing.
And I'm concerned, you know,just heal yourself, and it's going
to heal you.
You don't have to worrywhether it's healing somebody else.
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I'm not suggesting it to healsomebody else.
But literally, if you thinkinternally, not, you know, not at
a party.
Right time and place, butinternally, you.
Know, in a little meditation,you just go in, close your eyes,
and you start thankingsomebody for the very thing that
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is causing you so much pain.
And it is magical.
Maybe not at once, buteventually you'll see that there's
some kind of gift for you.
And because a lot of ourwounds make us who we are in life.
The adversity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
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Although at the end of theday, we're better off without those
ones.
Right.
I find what helps me is goingin recognizing there's little Allison,
you know, the child that I.
That I was, that's still partof me.
You know, there were.
On a soul level, they're stillpart of us.
And I became the mother that Ididn't have.
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And I find that a lot ofpeople heal those wounds through
becoming the person that theywished had been there for them, for
their own children.
Absolutely.
I.
First of all, you can do itfor your own inner child.
It's healing.
It works.
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So healing, you just, youknow, you.
I mean, we all have different parts.
So you become the mother,right, to your inner child, and you
comfort that inner child.
You let them know you lovethem and that everything is safe.
And that's extremely healing.
But also, what you said, whenyou become a parent, it is so healing
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to give the child, your child,the love that an experience that
you felt you didn't have.
In my own personal situation,I find a lot of people have something
similar.
There is a karmic pattern inmy family of the women relying on
men, you know, which is why Iwas so ambitious and motivated, you
know, to make my own money andto teach my girls that they could
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make their own money.
But also taking my girls tothe fair, taking them out of school
and eating funnel cake andgoing on rides and playing as many
games as they wanted to, wasalso healing the inner child in me,
because I was providing it forthem, but also for myself in being,
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like, allowing myself to be achild that I wasn't always allowed
to be in my childhood.
So you can do those things as well.
I kind of joke, but it's true.
I have a young son, and Ialways say I'm having the boyhood
I never had.
I'm sure he's very lucky.
You take him everywhere.
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That is so nice.
So it's funny when I interviewsomeone else who is psychic or dialed
in or living in the ethereal,because I notice my questions will
go in line to whatever maybeyou had wanted to talk to or you
start talking about somethingI had wanted to talk about.
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So, like, my second questionis, what kind of issues do your clients
come to you looking to heal?
And you literally just gave anexample of a man who used to swim
long distance as a child.
I love that.
I love that.
So with the healing that we dowith emotional wounds, we collect
emotional wounds.
I think a lot of peoplecollected them in 2024 in various
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ways.
It was a hard, hard year.
Which eight years are there tochallenge us.
Can you use these methods tosort of heal that within you?
Because we have a lot of crimeright now.
We're seeing a lot of whatbecomes controversial that in another
day and time wouldn't havebeen controversial.
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And where you grapple withthat, with social media, because,
for instance, the man thatkilled the health care CEO, he.
He, you know, people areonline saying, he's so sexy, you
know, I want to date you.
And I'm like, who raised these people?
Seriously?
Like, I get being mad at.
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At the insurance companies orthe health care industry.
At the same time, this issomebody's husband and father.
And where's your humanity for them?
Because they didn't do anything.
Very complicated issue, of course.
I mean, murder is not theanswer, right?
I mean, there's just no.
No place or time, right?
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I mean, we don't just get tokill people.
We're in a civilized society.
That's what that is supposedto be for.
I mean, I have so much to sayabout this.
I mean, first of all, I mean,it's brought up, I think so many
people are frustrated.
Um, and it's brought that tothe surface.
I don't know what's going tohappen with that.
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And, you know, when I.
When this first happened, Ijust thought to myself, I mean, I
do have compassion for himbecause he's suffering so much physically
that his mind is probably of.
You know, when you're in somuch pain, it's just.
You just want to die, basically.
And so I think that's theplace where he was.
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And so he turned that out.
But, you know, I just thoughtto myself, oh, my God, I wish he
had called me or some otherhealer, because the pain that he's
in could have beenameliorated, helped.
I think he might have gonedown a psychological rabbit hole
because they interviewed oldroommate of his who was in a book
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club with him and said, hey,let's read a book on the Unabomber.
Okay?
Weird suggestion, but okay.
And so that's what it seemedto take some psychosis that this
man had and sent him down that path.
This is just my interpretationof my sense of what happened, but
it seemed to send him downthat path and gave him an idea that
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allowed him to have some sortof a target in mind to take out his
pain, anger, frustration, butalso mental health issues on this
poor man that was literallyshot in the back.
I know.
I mean, you know, I mean, there's.
Again, there's so much to sayabout this.
First of all, you know, you doget a vibrational experience when
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you read a text.
That's why if you read, youknow, I'm not suggesting you read
the Bible, but if you read theBible, you know, it's.
It is uplifting compared toreading the Unabomber.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, very true.
And, you know, so.
Because I think a lot ofpeople are empaths and don't realize
it, and they'll go into theperson's story and they start feeling.
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Feeling that person's impulsesand identifying with it and maybe
even relating to it.
So, yeah, it happens all the time.
You know, you read, you know,whatever books you read, that's what
you start focusing on.
Right.
So you become part of the story.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So he went down that.
But, you know, he also.
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I go back to the physical painhe was in because I think we can't
understand how.
Because he had a back injuryor surgery on his back, he may have
been on oxycodone ormedication of some Sort.
I suspect that his lawyerswill maybe even use an insanity plea.
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That has a very low percentageof success of actually working.
You would know better.
I think it's somewhere around2%, really, that actually succeed
with that defense.
So it's.
It's rare to get an outcome there.
I feel for the man whocommitted the act in the sense that.
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And Tom and I have run chartson serial killers and people who
do negative things, and youcan see the markers that were there
in their birth chart when theywere born.
But then mental health issues,or they just chose the easy path.
Those are choices when it'schoosing a path of what to do.
Did you and Tom look at his chart?
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I'll have to have Tom look athis chart.
We just did the Menendezbrothers, He looked at their charts,
which was very eye opening.
But there's two different realpaths you can take in life.
One's constructive, one'sdestructive, and when they become
destructive, they destroythose around them.
And that's what this young man did.
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So even if they're able toshow that he was inhibited by the
medication because of theplanning that went into this actual
crime, you know, maliceaforethought that happened, getting
out of what he did isextremely unlikely, and he's gonna
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be on a very ugly path for avery long time.
Maybe they'll end up figuringout what's wrong with him.
But I do think there's somemental health issues where the brain
or whatever's going on andtheir wires are crossed or it continues
to deteriorate and it nevergets better with time.
So, you know, I feel sorry fora soul that was born into maybe a
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sick body or a body that wassort of defective.
However, you know, we all makechoices, and just because somebody
ticks me off, I don't get toblow them away on the street.
I mean, nobody would run that, right?
I'm curious.
You been able to tap into theCEO who passed?
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You know, Norway?
I could.
Honestly, I mean, I could.
Normally, I don't do readingsunless it's for a family member,
because I need that energy toconnect me, like, triangulate the
messages from them.
But I'm sure just from the 25years I've been doing this professionally,
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I'm positive that his time isbeing spent around his living family
right now.
His wife, his children, beingworried about them, trying to let
them know that he's here, thathe's not gone, which is so frustrating
for them when they're talkingto you constantly.
And you can't hear them andthey know why, but it's they then
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they try and work through yourfriends and your family in dreams
or in messages to get that, toconvey that to you so that you don't
hurt as much.
Their whole intention is totry and ease our pain.
He wouldn't be worried about himself.
He'd be very much worriedabout them and people.
He's okay.
He'd be okay.
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Absolutely.
He would have, he would havecrossed, it seemed like he crossed
pretty instantly in the passing.
And often they don't evenknow, especially with like a gunshot
that delivers that blow toyou, the death blow.
They do know immediately whenthey're on the other side because
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they're looking at their body.
So they're aware thatsomething happened.
But he wouldn't have known whythe man did that to him.
So it's very sad to see thatthen somebody appears from the other
side or that was waiting forhim, that's a relative that knew
he was going to die and theywould have explained to him what
happened.
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And when we're in theethereal, we're sort of all knowing
in a sense of understandingand we're on high definition on a
soul level.
And he would have probablythought what a sad reason to take
my life.
You know, like he lost hislife in that moment.
And as far as he knew,everything was great.
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Now the holidays will beterrible for his family forever,
for the rest of their lives.
It will remind them of whatwas happening.
And people get in this fightwith the man capitalism or the healthcare
industry and they focus theirenergy there without having any resolution
of their own.
They're not helpful.
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The other point I want to makeabout this, which isn't about the
CEO or anything like that, isin my experience some of these kinds
of health issues that peoplehave that very chronic and very challenging,
it is hard to get completerelief from the equipment Western
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medicine has.
True.
And that's something that Ihope will eventually get addressed
because the energy treatmentsdo alleviate pain in a different
way than taking a drug whichmasks it, but it doesn't alleviate
it.
So would a person that is insay chronic pain?
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We'll use that as an example.
Yeah.
Would they be able to say,read your book and start implementing
some of the methods that youteach in being able to self heal?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's a reallycomplicated thing.
I think that it's reallyimportant to do your own healing
work because you're with yourself.
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20 Nobody's with you as muchas you're with yourself.
Nobody Knows your body aswell, right?
Yeah.
And on the other hand, I thinksome of these things are so deep
that it is helpful to have help.
And it's just hard to do avery deep healing journey completely.
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I don't know anyone who doescompletely herself.
So I think it's okay.
You know, people don't have tofeel that they have to do it by themselves
because.
So is it like with other formsof light work, where you could do
it in small groups or withother people trying to heal or have
healing groups together whereyou do light work and practice on
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each other?
Absolutely.
You know, I mean, what Jesussaid, I'll quote the master healer.
Happy Hanukkah, by the way.
Is, you know, where two ormore are gathered in my name, there
will I be.
And there is something aboutsomebody else witnessing or being
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present either in your pain orjust your soul, that that alone is
healing.
But, you know, I'm thinking,you know, I just worked with a woman
recently who has a chronic.
I forget even the name of theillness because I focus more on the
energy.
Right.
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And she had a spike.
She has a.
Like a blood cancer, and.
And it's chronic.
And she had a spike where herplatelet levels just, like, shot
up to the point where it waslike, whoa.
You know, her doctors weretotally freaked out.
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And I did a heal.
And, you know, I can't even.
I just.
I think I just soothed herenergy and released some of the stress
she was under.
She was under a lot of stressfrom work and things like that.
And within two weeks, youknow, the next time they tested,
her platelets had dropped dramatically.
I mean, she was in a completehealth crisis.
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So, you know, I think on herown, it probably would have been
hard to accomplish that so quickly.
So there's power in numbers,like a coven, in a sense, where you
bring together a group ofpeople and you focus your energy
together to heal.
I love that.
Absolutely.
And then there's also, youknow, I mean, somebody, you know,
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like me, who.
Or an acupuncturist who'sgoing to really be able to identify
what energies need to shiftand shift them.
So both are great.
I love that.
I think the more the merrier.
Do everything.
Everything.
I'm a big proponent of Easternand Western medicine and finding
whatever balance works for youin your life and your health.
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I just ordered oregano oilcapsules because my daughter has,
like, sometimes you get, like,an intestinal infection.
You know, her digestion's notgood, and that works.
You know, it's not WesternMedicine, it's more holistic.
It grows in the earth.
It's something natural.
And now this is a far cry awayfrom trying to treat something that's
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terminal.
But I'm just saying there areremedies that don't have to be invasive,
that can help you in yourdaily life.
And oregano oil seems to beone of those really great things
to take.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, as I say, I believein doing everything right.
You know, I mean, even theexample I just gave of this woman
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I was working with, you know,she went to her doctor and that's
how she knew she was in such a crisis.
Right.
And it was really important togo to the doctor and, you know, so.
Yeah, I mean, there's, there'sa lot of different methods.
People need to do theirhomework and then try something and
see how it works for them andmaybe even keep a little log of the
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information and how you feel.
Or maybe it doesn't help youand you can rule it out as something
that your body reacts well to,but people need to be more hands
on.
And I think sometimes thedoctors can be quick in handing over
pills that have more terribleside effects than what they're actually
treating in your body.
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Yeah, I mean, that does happen.
I mean, in this case, youknow, she was on.
She's on a drug, and yet thedrug wasn't sufficient at that moment.
Right.
So that happens too.
So, yeah, I mean, there's.
Yes.
I'm just always taken aback.
It's like, take this for eggsand then it'll say, but it could
kill you.
Yes.
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It's like, maybe we could trysome steroid cream and not.
There is a reason for that.
And that is because you'resuppressing, you know, the, the reason
you're having whatever it is,eczema or whatever has to.
There's underlying reasons.
And when you suppress the, youknow, the, the manifestation, your
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body will often do somethingelse because it has to express this
problem one way or another.
I'm so curious with youbecause we're under the same umbrella,
but sort of in differentcorners of the ethereal.
Do people ever ask you?
Because I've been asked this acouple of times to go in, if there's
somebody in a coma in thehospital and work on them, do they
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bring you in for that sort of session?
Yes, yes.
In fact, yes, I've done thatseveral times and I've brought people
out of comas.
So one.
One of the cases that I'mthinking of right now, the parents,
not the parents the childrencalled me.
The mother was in thehospital, and she'd gone in for kidney
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stones.
Okay.
And then she developed sepsis,and then she went into a coma.
I mean, it was horrific, right?
And the doctors had told thefamily that they should prepare for
the fact that she was going to pass.
And so they called me, and, Imean, she was in a terrible state,
you know, and they called me,and they asked if I would help.
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And I was actually pregnantwith my son at the time.
And I went into the hospital.
I was like, should I really bedoing this?
Yeah, Right.
I know.
I went in and I did a healing.
And lo and behold, to mysurprise, I was able to connect to
her consciousness, and shewanted to come back.
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She was like.
There was not even a shadow ofa doubt for her.
She was like, I want to come back.
Right.
So I worked with that, and.
And I.
You know, sometimes you haveto go on faith because all of the
outer signs were that she wasabout to pass.
Right.
But I had to convey thismessage that she wanted to come home.
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And then I did a secondhealing, and she came back.
She woke up.
Oh, amazing.
It was amazing.
She had some pretty seriousdamage from the sepsis.
Her toes had gotten blackened.
Sepsis is a horrific infection.
Yeah.
But she made it.
She's still alive.
This was like, I mean, 15years ago or something.
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Her kids got her back 12 yearsago, and she's living at home.
She's, you know.
Well, and just so my listenersunderstand, you know, I.
When I entered into what I doin mediumship, you know, what do
I do?
I go to a laboratory to bestudied by scientists because I want
to know why I can do what I do.
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And so I spent four yearsdoing that.
My point is.
Yeah, my point is I'm open toother areas under the ethereal umbrella.
And I've been learning so muchover the last 20 years about astrologers
and tarot readers and healersand potion makers, even, and.
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And Diane was somebody Icalled years ago when my friend Michelle
was dying and she was stagefour cancer.
She was in a horrible place.
She had days, maybe days to live.
Michelle had shrunk so muchfrom her chemotherapy and everything
she went through, and she wasthe sweetest soul who had two little
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girls.
So my Hail Mary was Diane.
I called Diane in and said,could you please see if it'll help?
Like, I was open to it.
You know, I think peopleshould give everything a shot and
be open to the opportunity tohave it be successful.
Maybe it.
Maybe it's Not.
But maybe it does.
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And we have to.
Yeah.
And she.
You bought her, pushed it intoremission for four years.
She got four more years withher beautiful little girls.
And I know that meanteverything to the family and her
husband Steve.
So I've actually seen it wheneverything was tried and.
And healer Diane here wasbrought in and sort of worked with
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Michelle's energy, who I'msure didn't want to go because she
was a mother and being amother was everything to her.
Yeah.
You know, when I went to seeher, I have to say, she was so sick,
I thought, oh, my God.
I mean, she has maybe a week left.
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't.
You know, I always hold openthe possibilities, but I thought
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to myself, oh, my God, youknow, I mean, I don't know how much
I can do here.
She did not look well.
I mean, she was.
She was in a bad state and shehad no.
You know, her spirit wasmostly gone.
But, you know, the interestingthing was she didn't want to leave,
but her parents had recentlyleft, and she was so devastated by
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that.
And I was able to show herthat her children needed her.
Yeah.
And that is what brought her back.
Well, we were just very grateful.
And I believe in light work.
And so for those of you thatare out there that want to try learning
it.
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Diane teaches in many forumsof healing, including Dead University
and.
Have you written a couple of books?
How many books do you.
I've written three.
I'm working on a fourth rightnow, but I've written three books.
And the first one, how peopleHeal, has a lot about the science
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because I was an investigativereporter looking at that.
The second one, Awakening tothe Light, is my.
My personal experience how Iwent from being a journalist to a
healer, which was quitewonderful and traumatic.
Lawyer, medium.
Come on, I got it.
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And the third one is, youknow, case studies and different
meditations and ways you canlook at what's going on with you
to help unravel whateverenergy is causing you not to feel
well.
And so for the next.
So for self healing, what bookwould you recommend?
I would recommend.
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You know, that's a really good question.
I'd recommend yes, you canHeal, and.
That'S available at Amazon and.
Yeah, it's available.
That's the best way to get it.
And the first book, how peopleHeal, if you really don't believe
in it and you want to know howit's working, you could read that.
Okay.
Yeah.
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I love that you have a focusof something that you really Enjoy
in healing, which isinfertility in couples.
Can you talk a little about that?
Yeah.
You know, the thing about thatis it's joyful.
Right.
And you used it on yourself.
You scared every woman over 45.
Oh my God.
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We're like, no.
Well, I.
You know, this is one of those examples.
I did have.
Help.
Help.
You know, it's.
There's nothing wrong with,you know, doing IVF or whatever you
need to do if you really wantto have a baby.
Yes.
So it's not one or the other,but even so, sometimes you need a
little magic.
It was still extraordinary.
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I don't even care if you gotsome western help there.
How old were you when you hadyour son?
I never tell anyone.
Oh, I tell everyone.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't know.
I didn't know it was a secret.
But I consider myself thepatient saint of older moms.
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But I have helped youngerwomen too.
I mean, women in theirtwenties have trouble too sometimes.
And, you know, and young women seem.
To have more problems now thanI've ever seen in our lifetime as
far as fertility issues.
And it's disturbing.
I hope they get to the bottomof that because it's unnatural, actually.
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It is unnatural.
I mean, the people that Iworked with, I can tell you what
they're.
I mean, one of them.
Which, you know, might go tothe point of the unnatural.
I mean, this was a long, longtime ago.
It was the daughter of one ofmy regular clients at the time and
she'd gotten married and allof her friends were starting to have
babies and she wasn't gettingpregnant and she was really upset
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about it.
So I did a healing and, youknow, I cannot make this stuff up.
It was really in her case, youknow, she came from a very well to
do family and she'd spent allher life up to that point making
sure she didn't get pregnant.
Right.
Panic that if she gotpregnant, you know, the world would
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fall apart for her.
And so her body had thatmessage that she shouldn't get pregnant.
So I know that sounds crazy, so.
I unwound that makes sense to me.
I get that.
Yeah, you get it.
And even so, she was sopanicked, I knew she was going to
get pregnant.
But they went ahead and theydid ivf.
They were.
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Of course, they were pregnantalmost immediately.
And then she had a littleproblem with the embryo.
It wasn't shaped properly.
So I did a healing on that too.
I didn't know what was.
You know, I never.
I don't always know what'sgoing to happen when I do a healing.
Right.
But I worked on it and itreverted to a.
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You know, the doctor said thepregnancy would be fine, but the
embryo became normal again.
Fantastic.
I mean that's amazing.
That really is amazing.
And I've.
I know there's a lot ofstudies done on light work and cellular
data, like as far as how thecells change with the different techniques
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used.
And I think it's amazing.
I think people need to findout more about you.
I really feel like childrenshould be meditating in classrooms
on the daily to focus theirwell being and center themselves.
And they've tried this inother countries and the kids flourish.
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Can we get it together, America?
Get some of that going?
We'll never get that together.
But I agree with you so much.
I mean, whenever I teach, Itaught a class on intuition.
I mean, did anyone ever teachyou about intuition or the fact that
you.
Had certain movies that Iwatched as a child?
Like, you know, not, notreally, but in the 70s when I was
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really little, they had a lotof unsolved mysteries and psychic
activity and you know,people's head hooked up like on Ghostbusters
to, you know, depicting apsychic test, which I ended up doing,
which is hilarious becauseloved that part of Ghostbusters.
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And then I end up in the labbeing studied like a lab rat.
So those are.
No, but not in the classroom.
It was actually the opposite.
We were taught more keep yourhands to yourself.
Which is still a good rule.
Yeah, listen to the teacher,respect your elders, eat your lunch,
eat all of it.
You know, for.
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Eat your fruit and veggies,just like stuff like that.
But nothing having to do withenergy ever.
Or even your intuition or yourinner self.
Yeah, the most important thingis even.
But every, every adult we knewsaid, I have a gut feeling or my
instinct is.
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I mean it was already in oursociety that we knew that there were
adults that believed in thator they'd say, oh, what's my sixth
sense?
You know, I didn't come fromsuch a lucky.
Well, my grandma knew whenpeople were gonna die, so I grew
up, up with her.
Also I had some lawenforcement and military in the family
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and they very much believe onhunches and gut feelings and you
know, going with that instinctthat they get.
So I guess in that sense I wasable to relate to.
Yeah, you were lucky.
But I think, you know, it's a major.
I mean, I agree with you.
Something should be taught in school.
Yes, absolutely.
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So where can people find moreinformation on you and do you have
any workshops coming up?
Well, I do.
I have.
Well, they can find me atDianeGoldner.com or Diane@DianeGoldner.com
to make it easy.
Yeah, and I don't have itlisted yet, but I'm going to be teaching
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another Zoom workshop.
I think the next one is goingto be on healing yourself and your
relationships.
And because that's one thatalong with many other things is like
almost everybody.
Has something your timing onthat's fortuitous because the eight
year was starting the processof ending relationships that no longer
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serve you, which is why you'reseeing all the divorces and breakups
and getting friends out ofyour life that you've outgrown and
that no longer serve you.
You just, you're on differentenergy levels.
The nine year is going tobring that furiously.
It's going to be fascinating.
So I'm sure your class will befull of people.
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I'll probably have that up inabout two weeks.
So is it going to be abouthealing relationships that.
That are worth saving?
Do you have a distinction ofif it be.
Well, I think sometimes youdon't know until you do the inner
work.
Right.
So do you talk to them aboutthat if it stands out that it's not
a positive relationship intheir life, that maybe you need to
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heal through that?
I definitely do.
You have to be very gentlewith people because if they're not
ready to do that and I've been there.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you.
Then you get afraid.
Right.
And, well, a lot of people.
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I wrote a long time ago, lifedoesn't stand for live in fear every
day.
And that's because I feel mostpeople in the world live in fear
every day about, especially inthe U.S.
what if I don't have this?
What if I don't have that?
And what if nobody loves me?
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What if nobody likes me?
What if I don't get follows?
What if nobody likes my socialmedia content?
It's like, stop worrying abouteverything, do what you do and roll
the dice on life.
Just.
Well, this is the thing.
It's not just about healingyour relationships.
It's really your relationshipsare a way for you to heal yourself.
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Right, right.
And.
And when I say relationships,it could even be your relationship
to something at work.
Not just people at work, butyour whole.
Right, you know, I mean,relationship is almost anything you're
relating to.
Right, right.
Although it is also very muchyour romantic relationships.
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I deal with a lot of clientswhere I have to point out to them
that they've been stuck in aCycle of picking the same guy over
and over again and expecting adifferent result, which we all know
what that is, and trying tobreak them of that.
I'm like, if you're remotelyattracted to someone, walk away.
I'm like, maybe, you know,it's very hard to change.
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But, I mean, that was one of,you know, when I started doing my
healing work, I had to look at that.
I was like, what if I.
What do all theserelationships have in common?
There's a pattern.
We see patterns.
I grew up with a mom that wasmarried four or five times by the
time I was 18.
So I saw the gamut of divorceand relationship dynamics.
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I was either gonna be aprosecutor or a divorce attorney
anyways.
I interned in homicide.
We know how that worked out.
So I actually paid attentionto those relationships and the energy
of the men that my mom chose.
And I chose somebodycompletely the opposite of anyone
she was ever with.
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And so I did learn somethingfrom her in that respect.
But you are like the.
I want to say, almost theexception to be able to do that.
A lot of people don't have theconsciousness to, you know, to see
it clearly.
I was a strange kid, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It worked out.
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It worked out so well.
Thank you for talking to metoday and talking to my listeners
and enlightening them.
I know they're going to wantto know all about you and sign up
for your classes, as I believesome of the DU students signed up
for your course.
And I.
I can't wait to hear aboutthat either.
I'm very proud of them.
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So, Diane, welcome back.
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It's great to be here.
Oh, it's always great to have you.
I'm sorry that it's taken thislong for us to reconnect.
What a year, huh?
It's what a year.
The timing is always perfect.
So this is perfect.
That was a year of transformation.
And people think of the wordtrans as oh, yay.
We see the good things.
It's going to get us where weneed to go.
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But it's much like childbirth.
It's ugly and painful.
And as we pass 2024 was a yearthat made us look deep and actually
get people out of your life.
That process started in theeight year of 2024, expelling people
from your life that don'tserve your purpose any longer.
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And we're going into a nineyear, a year of endings which will
end things the way they'vebeen in the last nine years and then
even before that because Plutowent into Aquarius.
But that's a whole other subject.
So going into 2025, manypeople are looking to heal scars
from their childhood.
Can you use light work to healemotional wounds?
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Oh, my God, for sure.
In fact, I would say thatalmost all physical issues really
start on other levels, theemotional level being one.
So, so you can have, you know,years go by and then all of a sudden
you wonder why you're not, youdon't feel well, but it's emotions
that have been, you don't evenrealize what the emotions are.
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They're kind of locked up inyour energy field and an energy healing
will start releasing them.
And as your emotions flow, youwill feel better, your relationships
get better.
And do you do that, do you dothat through like visualization techniques
or how does that work in healing?
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When I'm doing a healing, itreally works with me going into somebody's
energy field.
It's literally like we begin vibrating.
I can really feel what aperson is experiencing, maybe on
a deeper level than they'reconscious of.
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What's coming to my mind is aman who had lost the hearing in one
ear and was.
They had just found a shadowin the other ear and so they were
concerned it was a tumor inthe first year and they were concerned
he was getting a tumor in thesecond year.
That would be a concern.
Yeah, yeah.
Totally deaf.
Yes.
So he wasn't the kind of guy.
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He was a hard charging executive.
I tend to see more of thoseand maybe some healers who did not
believe in healing.
But a friend of him said, whatdo you have to lose?
Right.
You're hearing well and youcome from that background as well,
like you didn't know what tomake of it.
So I think that's reassuringto people.
Yeah.
And I speak that language, sothat's also reassuring.
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So anyway, when I starteddoing the healing, I saw him as a
child.
Since we're talking aboutchildhood wounds, that's why I'm
bringing this one up.
I saw him as a child.
He had been a long distanceswimmer and I saw him swimming in
the ocean and so happy.
Happy because all the sound ismuffled when you're swimming in the
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ocean, in any water.
Right.
You don't really hear whatelse is going on.
And so I asked what was it hedidn't want to hear?
And it was his father yellingat him.
So this is how these emotionsthat get stuck in our body can really
have a long term effect.
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They manifest all of that.
I told him what I had seen andwhat I did and he, he just looked
at me in complete shock.
It's like, oh my God, you'vejust described my whole childhood.
So very often what I'm reallyworking on, even when I'm working
on a physical issue, isemotions or beliefs or thoughts that
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are no longer serving the person.
You know, it's so interestingto see the different methods of healing
that can be used.
And almost everything goesback to our childhood.
And it's more incentive forparents to really work with their
kids in childhood because itsets the tone for a lot of people's
lives.
It does.
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But you know, the thing is,most people are Just human.
And so they've come with theirown childhood wounds, and it goes
from generation to generation.
And unless you say the bug stops.
Here, Karmic patterns that youhave to.
Break your karma patterns.
And they're tough, you know,and everyone has them.
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So one of the things thathelps break these patterns is, you
know, a lot of times we turnaround and then we're angry that
our parents have thesepatterns, you know, that, you know,
the father was an alcoholicor, you know, the parents didn't
get along, whatever it was.
And you know, that anger is abinding force to the same energies
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that you want to heal from.
So the best thing.
And I've had clients whereI've told them they should do a practice
of gratitude, and they'relike, going to do that.
But truly, it is very healing.
And I'm concerned, you know,just heal yourself, and it's going
to heal you.
You don't have to worrywhether it's healing somebody else.
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I'm not suggesting it to healsomebody else.
But literally, if you thinkinternally, not, you know, not at
a party.
Right time and place, butinternally, you.
Know, in a little meditation,you just go in, close your eyes,
and you start thankingsomebody for the very thing that
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is causing you so much pain.
And it is magical.
Maybe not at once, buteventually you'll see that there's
some kind of gift for you.
And because a lot of ourwounds make us who we are in life.
The adversity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
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Although at the end of theday, we're better off without those
ones.
Right.
I find what helps me is goingin recognizing there's little Allison,
you know, the child that I.
That I was, that's still partof me.
You know, there were.
On a soul level, they're stillpart of us.
And I became the mother that Ididn't have.
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And I find that a lot ofpeople heal those wounds through
becoming the person that theywished had been there for them, for
their own children.
Absolutely.
I.
First of all, you can do itfor your own inner child.
It's healing.
It works.
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So healing, you just, youknow, you.
I mean, we all have different parts.
So you become the mother,right, to your inner child, and you
comfort that inner child.
You let them know you lovethem and that everything is safe.
And that's extremely healing.
But also, what you said, whenyou become a parent, it is so healing
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to give the child, your child,the love that an experience that
you felt you didn't have.
In my own personal situation,I find a lot of people have something
similar.
There is a karmic pattern inmy family of the women relying on
men, you know, which is why Iwas so ambitious and motivated, you
know, to make my own money andto teach my girls that they could
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make their own money.
But also taking my girls tothe fair, taking them out of school
and eating funnel cake andgoing on rides and playing as many
games as they wanted to, wasalso healing the inner child in me,
because I was providing it forthem, but also for myself in being,
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like, allowing myself to be achild that I wasn't always allowed
to be in my childhood.
So you can do those things as well.
I kind of joke, but it's true.
I have a young son, and Ialways say I'm having the boyhood
I never had.
I'm sure he's very lucky.
You take him everywhere.
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That is so nice.
So it's funny when I interviewsomeone else who is psychic or dialed
in or living in the ethereal,because I notice my questions will
go in line to whatever maybeyou had wanted to talk to or you
start talking about somethingI had wanted to talk about.
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So, like, my second questionis, what kind of issues do your clients
come to you looking to heal?
And you literally just gave anexample of a man who used to swim
long distance as a child.
I love that.
I love that.
So with the healing that we dowith emotional wounds, we collect
emotional wounds.
I think a lot of peoplecollected them in 2024 in various
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ways.
It was a hard, hard year.
Which eight years are there tochallenge us.
Can you use these methods tosort of heal that within you?
Because we have a lot of crimeright now.
We're seeing a lot of whatbecomes controversial that in another
day and time wouldn't havebeen controversial.
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And where you grapple withthat, with social media, because,
for instance, the man thatkilled the health care CEO, he.
He, you know, people areonline saying, he's so sexy, you
know, I want to date you.
And I'm like, who raised these people?
Seriously?
Like, I get being mad at.
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At the insurance companies orthe health care industry.
At the same time, this issomebody's husband and father.
And where's your humanity for them?
Because they didn't do anything.
Very complicated issue, of course.
I mean, murder is not theanswer, right?
I mean, there's just no.
No place or time, right?
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I mean, we don't just get tokill people.
We're in a civilized society.
That's what that is supposedto be for.
I mean, I have so much to sayabout this.
I mean, first of all, I mean,it's brought up, I think so many
people are frustrated.
Um, and it's brought that tothe surface.
I don't know what's going tohappen with that.
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And, you know, when I.
When this first happened, Ijust thought to myself, I mean, I
do have compassion for himbecause he's suffering so much physically
that his mind is probably of.
You know, when you're in somuch pain, it's just.
You just want to die, basically.
And so I think that's theplace where he was.
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And so he turned that out.
But, you know, I just thoughtto myself, oh, my God, I wish he
had called me or some otherhealer, because the pain that he's
in could have beenameliorated, helped.
I think he might have gonedown a psychological rabbit hole
because they interviewed oldroommate of his who was in a book
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club with him and said, hey,let's read a book on the Unabomber.
Okay?
Weird suggestion, but okay.
And so that's what it seemedto take some psychosis that this
man had and sent him down that path.
This is just my interpretationof my sense of what happened, but
it seemed to send him downthat path and gave him an idea that
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allowed him to have some sortof a target in mind to take out his
pain, anger, frustration, butalso mental health issues on this
poor man that was literallyshot in the back.
I know.
I mean, you know, I mean, there's.
Again, there's so much to sayabout this.
First of all, you know, you doget a vibrational experience when
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you read a text.
That's why if you read, youknow, I'm not suggesting you read
the Bible, but if you read theBible, you know, it's.
It is uplifting compared toreading the Unabomber.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, very true.
And, you know, so.
Because I think a lot ofpeople are empaths and don't realize
it, and they'll go into theperson's story and they start feeling.
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Feeling that person's impulsesand identifying with it and maybe
even relating to it.
So, yeah, it happens all the time.
You know, you read, you know,whatever books you read, that's what
you start focusing on.
Right.
So you become part of the story.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So he went down that.
But, you know, he also.
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I go back to the physical painhe was in because I think we can't
understand how.
Because he had a back injuryor surgery on his back, he may have
been on oxycodone ormedication of some Sort.
I suspect that his lawyerswill maybe even use an insanity plea.
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That has a very low percentageof success of actually working.
You would know better.
I think it's somewhere around2%, really, that actually succeed
with that defense.
So it's.
It's rare to get an outcome there.
I feel for the man whocommitted the act in the sense that.
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And Tom and I have run chartson serial killers and people who
do negative things, and youcan see the markers that were there
in their birth chart when theywere born.
But then mental health issues,or they just chose the easy path.
Those are choices when it'schoosing a path of what to do.
Did you and Tom look at his chart?
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I'll have to have Tom look athis chart.
We just did the Menendezbrothers, He looked at their charts,
which was very eye opening.
But there's two different realpaths you can take in life.
One's constructive, one'sdestructive, and when they become
destructive, they destroythose around them.
And that's what this young man did.
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So even if they're able toshow that he was inhibited by the
medication because of theplanning that went into this actual
crime, you know, maliceaforethought that happened, getting
out of what he did isextremely unlikely, and he's gonna
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be on a very ugly path for avery long time.
Maybe they'll end up figuringout what's wrong with him.
But I do think there's somemental health issues where the brain
or whatever's going on andtheir wires are crossed or it continues
to deteriorate and it nevergets better with time.
So, you know, I feel sorry fora soul that was born into maybe a
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sick body or a body that wassort of defective.
However, you know, we all makechoices, and just because somebody
ticks me off, I don't get toblow them away on the street.
I mean, nobody would run that, right?
I'm curious.
You been able to tap into theCEO who passed?
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You know, Norway?
I could.
Honestly, I mean, I could.
Normally, I don't do readingsunless it's for a family member,
because I need that energy toconnect me, like, triangulate the
messages from them.
But I'm sure just from the 25years I've been doing this professionally,
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I'm positive that his time isbeing spent around his living family
right now.
His wife, his children, beingworried about them, trying to let
them know that he's here, thathe's not gone, which is so frustrating
for them when they're talkingto you constantly.
And you can't hear them andthey know why, but it's they then
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they try and work through yourfriends and your family in dreams
or in messages to get that, toconvey that to you so that you don't
hurt as much.
Their whole intention is totry and ease our pain.
He wouldn't be worried about himself.
He'd be very much worriedabout them and people.
He's okay.
He'd be okay.
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Absolutely.
He would have, he would havecrossed, it seemed like he crossed
pretty instantly in the passing.
And often they don't evenknow, especially with like a gunshot
that delivers that blow toyou, the death blow.
They do know immediately whenthey're on the other side because
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they're looking at their body.
So they're aware thatsomething happened.
But he wouldn't have known whythe man did that to him.
So it's very sad to see thatthen somebody appears from the other
side or that was waiting forhim, that's a relative that knew
he was going to die and theywould have explained to him what
happened.
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And when we're in theethereal, we're sort of all knowing
in a sense of understandingand we're on high definition on a
soul level.
And he would have probablythought what a sad reason to take
my life.
You know, like he lost hislife in that moment.
And as far as he knew,everything was great.
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Now the holidays will beterrible for his family forever,
for the rest of their lives.
It will remind them of whatwas happening.
And people get in this fightwith the man capitalism or the healthcare
industry and they focus theirenergy there without having any resolution
of their own.
They're not helpful.
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The other point I want to makeabout this, which isn't about the
CEO or anything like that, isin my experience some of these kinds
of health issues that peoplehave that very chronic and very challenging,
it is hard to get completerelief from the equipment Western
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medicine has.
True.
And that's something that Ihope will eventually get addressed
because the energy treatmentsdo alleviate pain in a different
way than taking a drug whichmasks it, but it doesn't alleviate
it.
So would a person that is insay chronic pain?
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We'll use that as an example.
Yeah.
Would they be able to say,read your book and start implementing
some of the methods that youteach in being able to self heal?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, it's a reallycomplicated thing.
I think that it's reallyimportant to do your own healing
work because you're with yourself.
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20 Nobody's with you as muchas you're with yourself.
Nobody Knows your body aswell, right?
Yeah.
And on the other hand, I thinksome of these things are so deep
that it is helpful to have help.
And it's just hard to do avery deep healing journey completely.
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I don't know anyone who doescompletely herself.
So I think it's okay.
You know, people don't have tofeel that they have to do it by themselves
because.
So is it like with other formsof light work, where you could do
it in small groups or withother people trying to heal or have
healing groups together whereyou do light work and practice on
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each other?
Absolutely.
You know, I mean, what Jesussaid, I'll quote the master healer.
Happy Hanukkah, by the way.
Is, you know, where two ormore are gathered in my name, there
will I be.
And there is something aboutsomebody else witnessing or being
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present either in your pain orjust your soul, that that alone is
healing.
But, you know, I'm thinking,you know, I just worked with a woman
recently who has a chronic.
I forget even the name of theillness because I focus more on the
energy.
Right.
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And she had a spike.
She has a.
Like a blood cancer, and.
And it's chronic.
And she had a spike where herplatelet levels just, like, shot
up to the point where it waslike, whoa.
You know, her doctors weretotally freaked out.
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And I did a heal.
And, you know, I can't even.
I just.
I think I just soothed herenergy and released some of the stress
she was under.
She was under a lot of stressfrom work and things like that.
And within two weeks, youknow, the next time they tested,
her platelets had dropped dramatically.
I mean, she was in a completehealth crisis.
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So, you know, I think on herown, it probably would have been
hard to accomplish that so quickly.
So there's power in numbers,like a coven, in a sense, where you
bring together a group ofpeople and you focus your energy
together to heal.
I love that.
Absolutely.
And then there's also, youknow, I mean, somebody, you know,
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like me, who.
Or an acupuncturist who'sgoing to really be able to identify
what energies need to shiftand shift them.
So both are great.
I love that.
I think the more the merrier.
Do everything.
Everything.
I'm a big proponent of Easternand Western medicine and finding
whatever balance works for youin your life and your health.
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I just ordered oregano oilcapsules because my daughter has,
like, sometimes you get, like,an intestinal infection.
You know, her digestion's notgood, and that works.
You know, it's not WesternMedicine, it's more holistic.
It grows in the earth.
It's something natural.
And now this is a far cry awayfrom trying to treat something that's
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terminal.
But I'm just saying there areremedies that don't have to be invasive,
that can help you in yourdaily life.
And oregano oil seems to beone of those really great things
to take.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, as I say, I believein doing everything right.
You know, I mean, even theexample I just gave of this woman
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I was working with, you know,she went to her doctor and that's
how she knew she was in such a crisis.
Right.
And it was really important togo to the doctor and, you know, so.
Yeah, I mean, there's, there'sa lot of different methods.
People need to do theirhomework and then try something and
see how it works for them andmaybe even keep a little log of the
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information and how you feel.
Or maybe it doesn't help youand you can rule it out as something
that your body reacts well to,but people need to be more hands
on.
And I think sometimes thedoctors can be quick in handing over
pills that have more terribleside effects than what they're actually
treating in your body.
(24:11):
Yeah, I mean, that does happen.
I mean, in this case, youknow, she was on.
She's on a drug, and yet thedrug wasn't sufficient at that moment.
Right.
So that happens too.
So, yeah, I mean, there's.
Yes.
I'm just always taken aback.
It's like, take this for eggsand then it'll say, but it could
kill you.
Yes.
(24:32):
It's like, maybe we could trysome steroid cream and not.
There is a reason for that.
And that is because you'resuppressing, you know, the, the reason
you're having whatever it is,eczema or whatever has to.
There's underlying reasons.
And when you suppress the, youknow, the, the manifestation, your
(24:55):
body will often do somethingelse because it has to express this
problem one way or another.
I'm so curious with youbecause we're under the same umbrella,
but sort of in differentcorners of the ethereal.
Do people ever ask you?
Because I've been asked this acouple of times to go in, if there's
somebody in a coma in thehospital and work on them, do they
(25:18):
bring you in for that sort of session?
Yes, yes.
In fact, yes, I've done thatseveral times and I've brought people
out of comas.
So one.
One of the cases that I'mthinking of right now, the parents,
not the parents the childrencalled me.
The mother was in thehospital, and she'd gone in for kidney
(25:42):
stones.
Okay.
And then she developed sepsis,and then she went into a coma.
I mean, it was horrific, right?
And the doctors had told thefamily that they should prepare for
the fact that she was going to pass.
And so they called me, and, Imean, she was in a terrible state,
you know, and they called me,and they asked if I would help.
(26:05):
And I was actually pregnantwith my son at the time.
And I went into the hospital.
I was like, should I really bedoing this?
Yeah, Right.
I know.
I went in and I did a healing.
And lo and behold, to mysurprise, I was able to connect to
her consciousness, and shewanted to come back.
(26:28):
She was like.
There was not even a shadow ofa doubt for her.
She was like, I want to come back.
Right.
So I worked with that, and.
And I.
You know, sometimes you haveto go on faith because all of the
outer signs were that she wasabout to pass.
Right.
But I had to convey thismessage that she wanted to come home.
(26:53):
And then I did a secondhealing, and she came back.
She woke up.
Oh, amazing.
It was amazing.
She had some pretty seriousdamage from the sepsis.
Her toes had gotten blackened.
Sepsis is a horrific infection.
Yeah.
But she made it.
She's still alive.
This was like, I mean, 15years ago or something.
(27:15):
Her kids got her back 12 yearsago, and she's living at home.
She's, you know.
Well, and just so my listenersunderstand, you know, I.
When I entered into what I doin mediumship, you know, what do
I do?
I go to a laboratory to bestudied by scientists because I want
to know why I can do what I do.
(27:36):
And so I spent four yearsdoing that.
My point is.
Yeah, my point is I'm open toother areas under the ethereal umbrella.
And I've been learning so muchover the last 20 years about astrologers
and tarot readers and healersand potion makers, even, and.
(27:59):
And Diane was somebody Icalled years ago when my friend Michelle
was dying and she was stagefour cancer.
She was in a horrible place.
She had days, maybe days to live.
Michelle had shrunk so muchfrom her chemotherapy and everything
she went through, and she wasthe sweetest soul who had two little
(28:20):
girls.
So my Hail Mary was Diane.
I called Diane in and said,could you please see if it'll help?
Like, I was open to it.
You know, I think peopleshould give everything a shot and
be open to the opportunity tohave it be successful.
Maybe it.
Maybe it's Not.
But maybe it does.
(28:41):
And we have to.
Yeah.
And she.
You bought her, pushed it intoremission for four years.
She got four more years withher beautiful little girls.
And I know that meanteverything to the family and her
husband Steve.
So I've actually seen it wheneverything was tried and.
And healer Diane here wasbrought in and sort of worked with
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Michelle's energy, who I'msure didn't want to go because she
was a mother and being amother was everything to her.
Yeah.
You know, when I went to seeher, I have to say, she was so sick,
I thought, oh, my God.
I mean, she has maybe a week left.
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't.
You know, I always hold openthe possibilities, but I thought
(29:27):
to myself, oh, my God, youknow, I mean, I don't know how much
I can do here.
She did not look well.
I mean, she was.
She was in a bad state and shehad no.
You know, her spirit wasmostly gone.
But, you know, the interestingthing was she didn't want to leave,
but her parents had recentlyleft, and she was so devastated by
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that.
And I was able to show herthat her children needed her.
Yeah.
And that is what brought her back.
Well, we were just very grateful.
And I believe in light work.
And so for those of you thatare out there that want to try learning
it.
(30:10):
Diane teaches in many forumsof healing, including Dead University
and.
Have you written a couple of books?
How many books do you.
I've written three.
I'm working on a fourth rightnow, but I've written three books.
And the first one, how peopleHeal, has a lot about the science
(30:32):
because I was an investigativereporter looking at that.
The second one, Awakening tothe Light, is my.
My personal experience how Iwent from being a journalist to a
healer, which was quitewonderful and traumatic.
Lawyer, medium.
Come on, I got it.
(30:53):
And the third one is, youknow, case studies and different
meditations and ways you canlook at what's going on with you
to help unravel whateverenergy is causing you not to feel
well.
And so for the next.
So for self healing, what bookwould you recommend?
I would recommend.
(31:14):
You know, that's a really good question.
I'd recommend yes, you canHeal, and.
That'S available at Amazon and.
Yeah, it's available.
That's the best way to get it.
And the first book, how peopleHeal, if you really don't believe
in it and you want to know howit's working, you could read that.
Okay.
Yeah.
(31:34):
I love that you have a focusof something that you really Enjoy
in healing, which isinfertility in couples.
Can you talk a little about that?
Yeah.
You know, the thing about thatis it's joyful.
Right.
And you used it on yourself.
You scared every woman over 45.
Oh my God.
(31:55):
We're like, no.
Well, I.
You know, this is one of those examples.
I did have.
Help.
Help.
You know, it's.
There's nothing wrong with,you know, doing IVF or whatever you
need to do if you really wantto have a baby.
Yes.
So it's not one or the other,but even so, sometimes you need a
little magic.
It was still extraordinary.
(32:15):
I don't even care if you gotsome western help there.
How old were you when you hadyour son?
I never tell anyone.
Oh, I tell everyone.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't know.
I didn't know it was a secret.
But I consider myself thepatient saint of older moms.
(32:35):
But I have helped youngerwomen too.
I mean, women in theirtwenties have trouble too sometimes.
And, you know, and young women seem.
To have more problems now thanI've ever seen in our lifetime as
far as fertility issues.
And it's disturbing.
I hope they get to the bottomof that because it's unnatural, actually.
(32:57):
It is unnatural.
I mean, the people that Iworked with, I can tell you what
they're.
I mean, one of them.
Which, you know, might go tothe point of the unnatural.
I mean, this was a long, longtime ago.
It was the daughter of one ofmy regular clients at the time and
she'd gotten married and allof her friends were starting to have
babies and she wasn't gettingpregnant and she was really upset
(33:20):
about it.
So I did a healing and, youknow, I cannot make this stuff up.
It was really in her case, youknow, she came from a very well to
do family and she'd spent allher life up to that point making
sure she didn't get pregnant.
Right.
Panic that if she gotpregnant, you know, the world would
(33:42):
fall apart for her.
And so her body had thatmessage that she shouldn't get pregnant.
So I know that sounds crazy, so.
I unwound that makes sense to me.
I get that.
Yeah, you get it.
And even so, she was sopanicked, I knew she was going to
get pregnant.
But they went ahead and theydid ivf.
They were.
(34:02):
Of course, they were pregnantalmost immediately.
And then she had a littleproblem with the embryo.
It wasn't shaped properly.
So I did a healing on that too.
I didn't know what was.
You know, I never.
I don't always know what'sgoing to happen when I do a healing.
Right.
But I worked on it and itreverted to a.
(34:23):
You know, the doctor said thepregnancy would be fine, but the
embryo became normal again.
Fantastic.
I mean that's amazing.
That really is amazing.
And I've.
I know there's a lot ofstudies done on light work and cellular
data, like as far as how thecells change with the different techniques
(34:44):
used.
And I think it's amazing.
I think people need to findout more about you.
I really feel like childrenshould be meditating in classrooms
on the daily to focus theirwell being and center themselves.
And they've tried this inother countries and the kids flourish.
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Can we get it together, America?
Get some of that going?
We'll never get that together.
But I agree with you so much.
I mean, whenever I teach, Itaught a class on intuition.
I mean, did anyone ever teachyou about intuition or the fact that
you.
Had certain movies that Iwatched as a child?
Like, you know, not, notreally, but in the 70s when I was
(35:28):
really little, they had a lotof unsolved mysteries and psychic
activity and you know,people's head hooked up like on Ghostbusters
to, you know, depicting apsychic test, which I ended up doing,
which is hilarious becauseloved that part of Ghostbusters.
(35:48):
And then I end up in the labbeing studied like a lab rat.
So those are.
No, but not in the classroom.
It was actually the opposite.
We were taught more keep yourhands to yourself.
Which is still a good rule.
Yeah, listen to the teacher,respect your elders, eat your lunch,
eat all of it.
You know, for.
(36:09):
Eat your fruit and veggies,just like stuff like that.
But nothing having to do withenergy ever.
Or even your intuition or yourinner self.
Yeah, the most important thingis even.
But every, every adult we knewsaid, I have a gut feeling or my
instinct is.
(36:29):
I mean it was already in oursociety that we knew that there were
adults that believed in thator they'd say, oh, what's my sixth
sense?
You know, I didn't come fromsuch a lucky.
Well, my grandma knew whenpeople were gonna die, so I grew
up, up with her.
Also I had some lawenforcement and military in the family
(36:53):
and they very much believe onhunches and gut feelings and you
know, going with that instinctthat they get.
So I guess in that sense I wasable to relate to.
Yeah, you were lucky.
But I think, you know, it's a major.
I mean, I agree with you.
Something should be taught in school.
Yes, absolutely.
(37:13):
So where can people find moreinformation on you and do you have
any workshops coming up?
Well, I do.
I have.
Well, they can find me atDianeGoldner.com or Diane@DianeGoldner.com
to make it easy.
Yeah, and I don't have itlisted yet, but I'm going to be teaching
(37:35):
another Zoom workshop.
I think the next one is goingto be on healing yourself and your
relationships.
And because that's one thatalong with many other things is like
almost everybody.
Has something your timing onthat's fortuitous because the eight
year was starting the processof ending relationships that no longer
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serve you, which is why you'reseeing all the divorces and breakups
and getting friends out ofyour life that you've outgrown and
that no longer serve you.
You just, you're on differentenergy levels.
The nine year is going tobring that furiously.
It's going to be fascinating.
So I'm sure your class will befull of people.
(38:17):
I'll probably have that up inabout two weeks.
So is it going to be abouthealing relationships that.
That are worth saving?
Do you have a distinction ofif it be.
Well, I think sometimes youdon't know until you do the inner
work.
Right.
So do you talk to them aboutthat if it stands out that it's not
a positive relationship intheir life, that maybe you need to
(38:39):
heal through that?
I definitely do.
You have to be very gentlewith people because if they're not
ready to do that and I've been there.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you.
Then you get afraid.
Right.
And, well, a lot of people.
(39:00):
I wrote a long time ago, lifedoesn't stand for live in fear every
day.
And that's because I feel mostpeople in the world live in fear
every day about, especially inthe U.S.
what if I don't have this?
What if I don't have that?
And what if nobody loves me?
(39:22):
What if nobody likes me?
What if I don't get follows?
What if nobody likes my socialmedia content?
It's like, stop worrying abouteverything, do what you do and roll
the dice on life.
Just.
Well, this is the thing.
It's not just about healingyour relationships.
It's really your relationshipsare a way for you to heal yourself.
(39:43):
Right, right.
And.
And when I say relationships,it could even be your relationship
to something at work.
Not just people at work, butyour whole.
Right, you know, I mean,relationship is almost anything you're
relating to.
Right, right.
Although it is also very muchyour romantic relationships.
(40:05):
I deal with a lot of clientswhere I have to point out to them
that they've been stuck in aCycle of picking the same guy over
and over again and expecting adifferent result, which we all know
what that is, and trying tobreak them of that.
I'm like, if you're remotelyattracted to someone, walk away.
I'm like, maybe, you know,it's very hard to change.
(40:26):
But, I mean, that was one of,you know, when I started doing my
healing work, I had to look at that.
I was like, what if I.
What do all theserelationships have in common?
There's a pattern.
We see patterns.
I grew up with a mom that wasmarried four or five times by the
time I was 18.
So I saw the gamut of divorceand relationship dynamics.
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I was either gonna be aprosecutor or a divorce attorney
anyways.
I interned in homicide.
We know how that worked out.
So I actually paid attentionto those relationships and the energy
of the men that my mom chose.
And I chose somebodycompletely the opposite of anyone
she was ever with.
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And so I did learn somethingfrom her in that respect.
But you are like the.
I want to say, almost theexception to be able to do that.
A lot of people don't have theconsciousness to, you know, to see
it clearly.
I was a strange kid, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It worked out.
(41:30):
It worked out so well.
Thank you for talking to metoday and talking to my listeners
and enlightening them.
I know they're going to wantto know all about you and sign up
for your classes, as I believesome of the DU students signed up
for your course.
And I.
I can't wait to hear aboutthat either.
I'm very proud of them.
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Thank you to my listeners fortuning in.
Tune in next week for a freshepisode of the Dead Life.
I'm Alison Dubois.
This.
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