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Hello my demon insiders, and welcome back to The Demon
Inside. I'm your host, John Venom, and
today we are going to be doing The Demon Inside, Anissa Weir
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and Morgan Geyser. Now, before I start doing that
podcast, I want to send out a couple of shout outs.
The first one's going to be to my cousin Mahdi.
She had mentioned doing this podcast, The Slender Man
Stabbing quite a bit ago and andI told her I would do it.
And I have a real hard time withthis case only because I don't
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like talking about children. And these two little girls were
12 years old, but we'll get intothat in a minute.
But this shout out goes to Maddie, my cousin and I have a
second shout out that goes out to a Circle K worker out here in
San Antonio where I'm at, her name's Rebecca.
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And Rebecca, every time I go buylike a soda or something, she's
the nicest person ever. And she says that she listens to
my show. So this is your shout out,
Rebecca. So if you don't know about the
Slender Man case, I'm going to tell you what happened.
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And right now a lot of it has been in the media because they
just released Morgan Geyser. So on May 31st of 2014 in
Waukesha, WI, Anissa and Morgan lured their friend Peyton who
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they called Bella into a wooded area where they ended up
stabbing her 19 times. After that happened the 2 little
girls, they're 12 years old. They left and thank God Peyton
or Bella survived this attack. She was found by a bicycle rider
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who called 911 and saved her life.
I'm going to play the 911 call for you right now 9. 11 What's
the address of your emergency? I'm.
Transferring over a caller on Big Bend at the dead end.
Just. South of Rivera.
OK, came upon a 12. Year old female.
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She appears to be stabbed. She appears to be what?
Stabbed. Stabbed.
OK. Are you still?
There. Yes, hi Sir, so is are you with
this 12 year old female? Yeah, she says she's having
trouble breathing. She said she was stabbed
multiple times. Stabbed multiple times.
Yeah. OK, Sir, are you with her right
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now? Yes.
Is she awake? She's awake.
Is she breathing? Yeah, she's breathing, she said.
She can take shallow breaths. She's.
Alert. OK, Stay with her.
We're sending the Police Department.
Don't hang up. OK, Hold on just a minute.
Don't hang up. OK.
OK, hold on just a minute, Sir. We're sending officers.
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Is there any assailant around? I didn't even look.
I don't see anybody. It's a OK stay.
Stay right with her, Sir. Is she on the ground or is she
standing up? No, she's laying on the grass.
Laying on the grass, stay right with her.
Just let me know if she is remaining conscious or not, OK?
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OK. Is there any bleeding going on?
Her clothing has got blood on it.
Where are the wounds? Do you see where the wounds are?
No, I'm I don't know if I shouldbe rolling her over and checking
or not. Do you know where?
OK, just stay with her and just let me know if she's conscious
or alert or stops breathe or anything.
Hold on a minute. Talk to the ambulance.
Police are also in route. OK, thank you.
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I'm bothering you at all my shade.
OK, OK. Just.
Keep her in that position. Just let me know on her
breathing. OK, what's?
Your name, Sir? My name.
Your name. My name.
OK. Were you just passing through?
Yes. OK.
And you found her and she was just laying there?
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Yeah. OK.
OK. So you see any active bleeding
or blood spurting out or anything like that?
No, unless it's underneath thereI just see dried blood.
OK, just dried blood. OK.
OK. Is she still breathing?
Is she still alert? Yeah.
OK, Stay with her. Stay with her.
Keep an eye on her. Hold on just a minute.
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Do not hang up, Sir. OK, I will not any.
Minute, we did that to you. Why don't you want to talk?
And she didn't say who did this or how it happened.
I don't. Know I don't know if she wants
to be talking. I started to ask.
Her and then that's OK if she's.Try to save her energy, I think.
OK, but you see nobody else around you.
Are you clearly visible? They pull down that road towards
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the dead end that they'll see you.
I'm sorry, I couldn't. Are you clearly visible when
they come down there so they seeyou?
I'm going to have, I got a gold flashlight on my bicycle.
I'll shine that for any emergency vehicle I see.
And I'll be, I'll be standing inthe middle.
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Of the road here in the middle of the road.
And where is she? In the side of the road.
Yeah, she's on a grass, a little, a little trail I take on
my bicycle. OK, OK, see.
Don't hang up, Sir. Just stay right with me.
OK. And let me know immediately if
you see anything else suspiciousin the area, car or person,
anything. All right, keep your eyes open.
Was anyone coming or leaving or any cars coming or leaving when
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you came? Upon her no.
Nothing, No. So were you on foot walking by
or did you pull up in a car? Bicycle.
You're on a bicycle. Yeah.
How did you see her? Did you just she's?
Right in the middle of the little path I take.
Middle of the little path OK. Yeah, there's a squad car coming
now, OK. The squad car coming OK flag the
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squad car down, protect her. Harry's.
Coming. Does she have a bike or
anything? With her, no, I don't see it.
One sandal is off, but you know,maybe 3 feet away from her.
OK, Flag that officer down. I'm going to let you go.
OK? You meet with him right now, OK?
OK. Thank you.
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After this little girl was stabbed and 911 came out and
they picked up Bella, she told them right away who did it.
She said it was her two friends and they tried to kill her.
About four or five hours later they found these two little
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girls 4 1/2 miles away from where they were at now.
According to them, they were walking because they were going
to go find Slender Man. And I'm going to explain what
all this is because it's really weird.
So if you've never heard about Slender Man, it's a fictitious
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monster that was created on the Internet by Internet user named
Eric Knudsen, which also was AKAVictor Surge.
What he did was he made two Photoshop pictures for a
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contest. It was a paranormal Photoshop
contest. And what he did was he used like
a black and white picture of kids and put this Slender Man
right in the middle. Now, Slender Man, the way he
looks, is a very tall man with no face and he wears a suit and
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his arms are longer than normal and he's just super tall.
And supposedly there's a whole following on Wikipasta or some
sites where people started to try to tell stories of the
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Slender Man and make it more real.
This Slender Man is supposed to gather children or what he calls
proxies, which are killers or servants.
And these servants are killers, live with Slender Man.
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And I don't know why anybody would want to live with this,
but these two little girls did. So let me explain what happened
after they stabbed her. They they went walking and the
police found them and they took them to interrogate them.
And both of these little girls said that they had to do it.
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They had to do it. There was no other way.
They had to do it. And they just kept uttering that
it was a necessity. They had to.
And So what we learned after theinterrogations, which I'm going
to play you a little bit, but Anissa was saying that if they
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wouldn't have killed or if they would have killed Bella, they
would have been able to go and see Slender Man.
They would have been part of hisfamily or whatever the hell it
is. Morgan also said the same thing.
Now they were both saying that if they wouldn't have done it,
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then Slender would have killed their families.
So basically they put themselvesin a situation where they felt
like we either kill Bella or this thing's going to come and
kill all of us. All right, so back in December,
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January, Morgan told you like, hey, we we should be proxies.
Same thing. Yeah.
And you know, and she said, what?
Like I said, OK, how would we dothat?
And she said we have to kill Bella.
OK, OK. And you know why she said that?
Like why? She said.
Because we had to supposedly prove ourselves worthy to father
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and a proxy again, what is the proxy?
It's like the servants or like The Apprentice.
OK. And they're?
The servants are. Cool.
The whichever, they kind of don't have a choice whether
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it's, like, really big. He's like Pedigo, supposedly.
OK, so Slander's the big guy. Yeah.
The top guy. And the proxies are his puppets.
Yes. That's how people puppet
puppets. Oh, OK.
Delusional. Yeah, very.
As a matter of fact, Morgan is very schizophrenic.
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When she was locked up in the hospital, when they first locked
her up and she was talking to police, she would say that she
would talk to the Teenage MutantNinja Turtles.
She was talking to ghosts, she saw colors melting down the
walls. She had imaginary friends named
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Maggie and Seb, and she also spent time talking to Slender
Man. Now there was another
hallucination that she had and she called it It like the Clown,
but it was a listen to this guys.
She described it as the color ofsmoke and ink.
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She would perceive him as standing behind her in mirrors
or shifting around corners. So I'm going to let you know
right now, this case is more on the supernatural side than it is
on the crime side. So if you're a true crime addict
and you don't really want to hear about the supernatural
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stuff, I probably wouldn't listen to the rest.
Because the majority, like I said, this case, all it was was
these two little girls killing their friend or trying to kill
their friend so that they could go to see Slender Man and live
with Slender Man. The case was plain and simple.
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They both got arrested. They both got convicted, of
course, both were in the hospital.
And recently they, well, in a few years ago, they let Elisa,
Anissa, they let Anissa go and live with her father.
And now they let Morgan, they let her out as long as she is
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living in a group home with supervision.
I have a big problem with that. And the only reason I say that
right now and, and so we could keep with the case is that
Morgan has still been hallucinating, has still been
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talking to Slender, has still been talking to ghosts, demons.
She believes in all of this paranormal stuff, which I get
it, there's a lot of us that believe in paranormal.
But when you're hallucinating orwhen you have schizophrenia,
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it's not a really good thing, especially if you've already
tried to kill a friend. She also got caught reading a
book called Rent Boy. It's about killing.
It's a whole thing. I hear it's very dark.
She also kept drawing pictures of demons and things of that
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nature. What I've been very even more
afraid of is that since they didn't kill their friend Bella,
could they both still think in their mind?
The reason we didn't see Slenderwas because we failed.
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Now is our chance to go back, finish what we started so that
we could go see Slender. I am very afraid for the little
girl who was their victim. Now keep in mind this was back
in May 31st of 2014 and so theselittle girls are already in
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their 20s. They also had planned to do this
for like 6 months prior to actually doing it.
They had planned it from December of 2013 and they
already knew they were going to kill Bella.
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So what we're talking about hereis basically a sacrifice.
They took this poor little girl out into the woods after they
spent the night together, all three of them.
It was a slumber party. They go out into the woods to go
play. They stab her so many times.
But like I said, luckily she lived and they thought that this
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little girl was going to die andthat was going to be their
sacrifice to Slender Man. We've heard of other cases that
I've talked about where a parentsacrifices their kid, and we've
heard about where somebody has killed some as a sacrifice so
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that they can gain power. That's what these two little
girls believed in. As far as I know, every legend
that we hear comes from somewhere.
The lady in white, the Liorona, the the crying woman who's
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searching for her kids. We hear about the man with the
hook or a Wraith that we see in the woods, or we hear all these
different stories that a lot of people believe are true but
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haven't seen yet. So the way I see this is, and
we've talked about it before, where demons will take the
legend and run with it because that's what people believe.
Couldn't this slender man had been a demon that took control
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and pretended to be slender and started talking to these two
little girls and saying this is what you're going to do for me?
Yes, absolutely. So the more that I looked into
this Slender Man thing and I waslistening to their
interrogations because these little girls start giving you
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hints of what they've read. And I, I went through
creepypasta, which is one of thesites where they have the whole
Slender Man thing. And they even have now.
It's like a whole set of rules that you have to do in order to
see Slender Man. For me, these things, when
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somebody is so wanting to do this, they put that belief in it
so much that it's going to attract something like a demon.
As a matter of fact, Anissa saysthere's a demon connected to
this that with 7 mouths which ispart of the creepypasta.
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So I looked up A7 mouth Demon and I couldn't really find
anything. But what I did find, because I
figured it this way, if it has seven mouths, if it has seven
mouths, then maybe it has seven heads.
So I looked for seven heads and a demon and what I came out with
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was really creepy. So the seven headed demon is a
common motif in various cultures, often representing a
powerful malevolent, malevolent force or a symbol of chaos and
evil. In ancient Mesopotamia, it
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appeared as a serpent or dragon,while in the Book of Revelation
it's described as a beast with 7heads.
And could this have been what Anissa and Morgan saw?
Could it have portrayed itself as Slender Man?
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The reason I don't like doing these shows on children is
because one, there's really no background.
There's really not a lot of background to this.
I mean, they were in middle school.
They barely figuring out who they are and then it's sad
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because nobody saw the psychological problems that
these two little girls had in. And not only that, but in
wanting to seek out something like Slender Man means that they
were lonely and that they wantedto feel more important.
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And a lot of times these kids, when parents or teachers or
whoever start ignoring these kids, you know, you always hear
if if you see a child, you know,straying away or, or being alone
all the time or, or you know, tohimself, you want to reach out.
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You want to get this kid involved.
You want, you know, this kid to be part of something because
that's what they're longing for.They want to be a part of
something important. And most adults don't see
children as having an important part in life.
They see them sometimes, and I hate to say it, as nuisance or
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as, you know, somebody that can't get us, you know, like
things done or somebody that is just too young and doesn't
understand. I believe children understand
more than what adults give them credit for.
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You know, maybe it's not the decisions we would make, but try
looking through the eyes of a child and see their point of
view. Because as adults, we're broken
sometimes and we can only see one path and children see
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something totally different thanwhat we see because they're not
jaded like we are. But for these two little girls,
they started to follow a path ofa demon.
Now here's another thing that bothers me.
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This Slender Man story started on the computer.
We've had shows where demons supposedly have been on apps.
So for me, they had this demon approach them and what I'm
thinking is maybe these little girls, what they ended up doing
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was a Ouija board at some point because they seem like the type
that would want to do seance or,you know, try to conjure up
something. And I'm not just saying like
Ouija boards are the way to bring entities into your life,
but it is a good way to do it. Let's be honest, there's a lot
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of people out there that have done Ouija boards and they've
regretted it. And there's a lot of people that
have done Ouija boards and nothing happens.
So could it be a doorway? Sure, it could be.
So what did it bring through? Well, Anissa told you.
Let's go back real quick to whatshe says she saw.
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She saw a smoke like ink like figure that she could see in the
mirror. Now, if you asked paranormal
investigators or anybody with a medium or any type of
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spirituality or something like that, they're all going to tell
you the same thing. There is power are things in the
mirrors. Sometimes they're even gateways
to the other side When and it's normal in cultures, when
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somebody passes away and they would have a wake in the house,
they used to cover the mirrors so that the soul would not get
caught in the mirror. Could that have been the entity
or the demon that these two little girls were talking to?
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Yes, most certainly. For me, the smoke, the ink like
thing and the mirror is a demon and it took these two little
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girls and corrupted their mind with this story of Slender Man
so that they could kill on his behalf.
Again, we've heard these storiesbefore where a demon wants a
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sacrifice and that's what these two little girls did.
And I pray, which I usually don't say on the show, but I
pray that these two little girls, now that they're adults,
that they don't try to do the same thing again to their
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victim. And I hope they just try to live
their life in peace. Thanks for listening, guys.
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