October 24, 2025 • 29 mins
On this episode we talk about Miguel who killed his neighbor in a horrendous way on Easter Sunday. He then poured salt and placed three crosses around her body. This was not very publicized until he died in Jail two years later waiting for his trial.
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a week. Tonight, a family is mourning a
young Charlotte woman. She was killed in such a violent
way. We are not sharing all the
details on TV. Laura Miller was brutally killed
at a home in east Charlotte overthe weekend.
(01:06):
Channel 9's Joe Bruno joins us live tonight with new
information. And Joe, Sadly, we report on a
lot of violent crimes here in the Queen City, But experts say
the extreme nature of this one is rare.
And we spoke to Laura's mom tonight.
She described her daughter as the most kind and caring person
She is. In such disbelief at all of
(01:29):
this. The suspect is behind bars
tonight. The details of this crime are
just really hard to stomach. Even some experts are left
scratching their heads at the brutality involved in this case.
All of this as a family searchesfor answers.
This is Miguel Gonzalez Rosales.Neighbors say blood was dripping
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from his apartment Easter Sunday.
Inside is where police say he killed and dismembered Laura
Miller. He is 1 of 10 people now over
the last 10 years to be charged with destroying remains and
concealing a death. UNC Charlotte criminology
professor Doctor Cherise Coston couldn't believe the details of
(02:12):
the case. I was horrified.
While it is rare weak it's, it does happen.
Police say this wasn't a domestic situation, but
neighbors say the two knew each other and could often be heard
fighting. As recently as last Thursday, a
neighbor says she saw the suspect banging on Miller's door
(02:35):
with a baseball bat, telling herto open up or he would kill her.
Prosecutors say the 35 year old's mutilated body was found
surrounded by crosses made out of broken table legs with salt
sprinkled around her. Coston says despite the demonic
and religious imagery, there usually isn't a connection.
Sometimes they get it through music, sometimes they get it
(02:57):
through movies, you know, But asfar as that type of murder
itself, it's usually not connected to any real Satanism
or the occult. Finding out why this happened is
the focus of Miller's family, her uncle tells Channel 9.
(03:19):
They won't rest until they get answers.
We. Want to know why this happened?
Why did he have to do this? What?
What was the purpose of it? What kind of anger is that?
The man arrested does not have any significant criminal
history, just minor traffic infractions.
Police have not said what weaponwas used, but they said a gun
(03:42):
was not involved. Live in east Charlotte.
Joe Bruno, Channel 9 Eyewitness News.
As we learn more details about this case, it becomes even more
disturbing. Thank you for digging into it,
Joe. We're going to continue to
follow this case, including if and when that suspect appears in
court. You can also hear reactions from
Miller's neighbor. We have all that coverage on
wsoctv.com and on our free app. Hello, my demon insiders, and
(04:08):
welcome back to the Demon Inside.
I'm your host, John Venom, and today we are going to be doing
the case of the demon Inside Miguel Gonzalez Rosales.
Now I've been looking into this for some time and I was really
hoping that I could get more information as time went by.
(04:33):
Like I've talked to you before, what happens a lot of times is
that the newer cases I don't find a lot on, especially
because since COVID happened, a lot of these trials are way
backed up. So this case happened on Easter
Sunday, April of 2023. And Miguel Gonzalez Rosales, I
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couldn't find any background to him.
I I scanned everywhere. As a matter of fact, I was even
thinking of getting in touch with him after the case was done
because the way it looked they were going to charge him with
murder and desecrating a body and auto theft.
(05:25):
Now the problem that I came to was quite recently he actually
died in prison. So now I was waiting for why or
how he died in prison and that hasn't come up either.
(05:50):
So let me give you what I do know about this case.
And like I said, it's not going to be a lot.
Uh, I ran his background with a DOB date of birth and he was
born December 26th, 1986. And like I said, his name is
Miguel Gonzalez Rosales, and I know he has a brother.
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And other than that, he had no criminal history, according to
some of these reports. He had, you know, like traffic
tickets, things like that, but nothing to this extreme.
Now, what I did learn also was that he was the neighbor to the
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victim. They lived in an apartment
complex. And this was in Charlotte, NC
and they lived next door to eachother.
They weren't dating. They weren't anything other than
neighbors or friends maybe. I don't know.
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All I know is from what people have said through interviews
now, one of the guys that was the neighbor of them said that
they had seen him a few days before with a baseball bat
banging at the door, at her door, saying to let him in or he
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would kill her. Now, if she felt threatened, I
believe she would have called the police.
And there was no report of that.So what the neighbor said is his
word because there's no file of it.
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And this case is full of these things.
And who knows, maybe when he wasbanging on the door of her
apartment, maybe she wasn't evenhome, so she didn't even know it
happened to call the police. But what we do know for sure is
that on April 9th, 2023, on Easter Sunday, Miguel Rosales or
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Miguel Gonzalez or Rosales killed his neighbor.
Now we're going to get into that.
And this is very graphic. So if you don't have a stomach
for this, and I've told you all this before, don't listen to
this. And I have to tell you how he
killed her because there's a lotof things that people like you
(08:31):
heard on the news news episode that I put at the beginning that
they don't know why he might have done this.
Now, from my point of view, I don't know exactly why he did
it. And I can't ask him because he's
not here anymore. But what I can do is tell you
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what I might think happened. So this is from my point of
view, and this is coming from what we do on this show, my
background in not only Catholicism, but different
religions. Plus, you know, we've gone deep
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into Old Testament type of philosophies that really, I
mean, could be possible. But forget all that for now.
And let's talk about how he killed her.
So on April 9th, like I said, itwas a Sunday, it was Easter
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Sunday. Now, if you're not a Christian
or a Catholic or you know anybody that celebrates Easter,
let me explain what Easter is real quick.
And I'm sure everybody knows what Easter is.
Easter is the day that Jesus Christ rose from the dead and
came back to life after his crucifixion.
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Now, it's believed that those three days he was in hell and
was real and was taking the souls of people out of hell that
were forgiven through his blood,through the body of Christ.
OK, now I'm not going to get religious on you.
That's what it was. So let's get into the crime.
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His brother, which is Miguel's brother, showed up to Miguel's
house. Miguel wasn't there, but his
brother saw blood coming from the door and it was leaking onto
the front of the apartment, intothe concrete.
(10:50):
So he opened the door to his brother's apartment, and right
there by the door was the dead neighbor.
Now he called 911 right away andthe police get there.
And again, here's the warning. Again, this is going to be very
(11:11):
descriptive, but I have to do this for this show, so bear with
me. So the victim's ankles were
bound by a cable and there were multiple wires wrapped around
her neck. She also suffered from a
laceration starting at her neck and running to her belly button.
(11:35):
In other words, he stabbed her in the neck and he cut her open
down to her belly button. She had extensive damage to her
face to the point where she was unrecognizable.
(11:57):
The police observed a broken table in the apartment and he
had made three crosses from the pieces of the table surrounding
her body. Now also there were burns on
both inner thighs and salt was poured around her and the room.
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There was human tissue found scattered throughout the
apartment and her tongue was found in the dining room.
There was blood on the floor outside of the apartment and
blood had seeped out of the doorand down to the floor below.
(12:51):
So as an investigator, these this is where I try to figure
out what he was doing. Now I've heard one show talk
about this. There's a handful of newspaper
articles online, but other than that, you know, a, a few
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YouTube, actually 2 YouTube newsmedia things that I found.
And they were saying that it could have been, she could have
been tortured. Now, keep in mind, OK, and we're
going to start this off very basic.
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He poured salt around her body and around the room.
And it wasn't like they got intoa fight where he, they, they hit
the salt thing. They specifically say it was
poured around her, not on her body, not between her legs, not
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on her face. They describe it as around her
body and around the room. Salt has a lot to do with
spirituality, but we'll get intothat next.
He placed three crosses from thebroken table pieces and
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surrounded her body. Remember this is Easter Sunday,
so on the crucifixion of Christ there was 3 crosses, the two
bandits and Jesus Christ. Why is that significant in this
case? Now the psychologist or whatever
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and, and she has her thoughts and theories, of course, which
are fine, but she doesn't deal with the Mexican culture that I
have. This guy is a Hispanic Mexican.
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I mean, we deal with this type of culture, and I'm not saying
what I'm saying is right, but a lot of these books don't
understand the culture. And if you don't understand the
culture, then you don't know where we're coming from now.
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Also, she didn't have anything tied around her mouth to suggest
that he was holding her from screaming.
I mean she could have screamed loud as hell and people in the
apartment complex. I know when I lived in one I
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could hear the neighbors upstairs just listening to their
TV. There was nothing covering her
mouth to stop her from screamingand nobody heard anything.
Her hands were not bound like her legs and her neck.
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Now there's a lot of ways he could have killed her by
crushing her face. He could have stopped her from
screaming by cutting out her tongue, which we heard about.
But if you're going to do that, then why torture her with the
burning of the inside of her legs?
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Unless you want to hear those screams?
Unless you want to hear your tortures doing an effect to your
victim. A lot of this to me doesn't make
sense. One of the people that I heard
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on one of the only person that Iheard talk about the salt, said
that they were, he was pouring salt into her wounds.
Yeah, I didn't see any of that on any of the news things that I
found. Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know. But that's a jump, especially if
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you see the salt around you. And that's what they described.
They didn't describe salt in thewounds.
They describe salt around the body.
So this guy kills his neighbor, does all this evil to her, pours
the salt around her, puts the crosses, locks the door to his
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apartment and leaves in her car.Now they catch him two hours
later down the road. The body.
They didn't say how long she hadbeen deceased, so I am assuming
that it happened that morning, maybe not too long before the
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Brother got there. I would have found it more
strange if he would have killed her Friday night or Friday
morning when it was the crucifixion of Christ, which
would have been Good Friday and then they found him on the OR.
They found her on Easter Sunday.This doesn't have anything to do
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with a Satanic Colt or Satanism or any of that.
This guy, he was trying to fighta demon.
Now, I'm not saying that she wasa demon.
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She was not possessed. She was not a demon.
The demons were in him and they probably made him look at her as
if she was a demon and he was fighting this demon and trying
to keep her soul from going withthe demons.
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And that's why he put the crosses around her, and that's
why he put the salt around her to ward off the evil spirits so
that her soul could be lifted and go to heaven.
OK, so let's go ahead and talk about the salt.
And I was going to tell you, I've dealt with salt for
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protection from evil spirits in the house.
We've done sage. I've done holy water and salt.
And this is coming straight fromthe Internet.
A lot of times, some of the stuff it's harder, it's it's
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harder for me to explain from mypoint of view.
So I'm going to read from the Internet and this is what it
says. In spirituality, salt symbolizes
purification, protection, and spiritual cleansing, acting as a
barrier against negative energies and evil spirits.
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It is also associated with grounding spiritual energies,
fostering harmony, and representing eternal bonds of
covenants as seen in traditions from Judaism to Hinduism and
Christian metaphorical uses. It's preservation qualities also
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link to vitality, healing, and the concept of spiritual
rebirth. This guy thought that she for
some odd reason was possessed, but it was him who was possessed
and hearing the voices. He wasn't possessed himself
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because if he was, he wouldn't care about throwing the salt and
doing all that stuff Demons don't care about.
The spirituality are the souls of us.
And that's what he did now. I would have loved to have
talked to him to see what he wasthinking at the time, if he even
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remembered. I couldn't because he was still
in the process of being tried, like he was still going to
court. And now we come to this problem.
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So on August of 2025, Miguel Gonzalez Rosales died in prison,
and I've been waiting for them to send notice of how he died,
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and nobody has said anything. Now, if he would have committed
suicide, that would have been onthe news.
If he would have been killed, that would have been on the
news. They have not said how he died
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because I believe they don't know how he died.
This was a guy who was in his 30s and there's rumors that the
facility where he was at was mistreating people because there
is a lot of accusations against the place where he was staying.
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I'm not going to get into the conspiracy theories and all
that. I mean, you're, you can look it
up just like I found it. I mean, you're not going to find
much, but there are people that are suing that place.
So maybe he was mistreated and he died and they're keeping it
from everybody. Or maybe, just maybe the demon
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that was infesting him, because I do believe this was an
infestation. I believe that this demon told
him to kill his victim because that she was possessed and he
was doing service to God or to whoever.
And he believed it like we've heard on so many episodes
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before, except his nationality as is mine.
We put he put the salt around her and the crosses because
whether or not anybody really believes it, he cared about her.
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There was a lot of anger involved in this crime for all
the things that he did to her. Now let me give you this and
just bear with me because I knowas a investigator this is going
to sound very far fetched. So for those of you that are not
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in the true car, that are into true crime but not into the
spiritual side, you might not like this part.
What I believe is that this demon infested him, showed her
being possessed even though she wasn't just like the last
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episode where he didn't rememberor he didn't see anything that
he did. White if you guys remember him
on the last episode and this demon took over a little bit and
started by killing her first. OK bear with me.
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Now let's say he crushed her head but in his eyes she was
still fighting and moving like ademon.
Because let me tell you this guys he has a shit load of
scratches on his face and I'm sure they're all over him where
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this lady put up a hell of a fight but it was too much for
her. Now what I believe also is that
when he killed her, which was probably very quickly, he kept
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seeing that the demon was still alive and he kept fighting this
demon to stop it from talking. So he cut out her tongue.
He kept fighting this demon where he crushed her head, he
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kept fighting this demon and to make sure that the demon was
dead, he started burning the inside of her legs to make sure
that this demon was dead. And then after all this was said
and done, he left. Now I know what you're thinking.
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The salt and the crosses were put before he had even did
anything to her. They were set up for her so that
when he was going to get rid of the demon, he placed her in the
middle of that circle and he dideverything in that circle.
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And that's why he threw the tongue into the dining room so
that the demon would shut up. This was a very hard case for
me, guys, because it kind of hits close to home sometimes.
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And I really do, don't get me wrong, feel sorry for all the
victims, which is her, her family, him, his family.
And now that the demon's done with them, the demon got rid of
him and that's all they want. And now he's going to move on to
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his next. Thanks for listening, guys.
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podcast. I am your host John Venom.
If you would like to review another episode of The Demon
Inside, you can go to Spotify, Apple Music, Google Podcast,
(00:25):
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(00:46):
a week. Tonight, a family is mourning a
young Charlotte woman. She was killed in such a violent
way. We are not sharing all the
details on TV. Laura Miller was brutally killed
at a home in east Charlotte overthe weekend.
(01:06):
Channel 9's Joe Bruno joins us live tonight with new
information. And Joe, Sadly, we report on a
lot of violent crimes here in the Queen City, But experts say
the extreme nature of this one is rare.
And we spoke to Laura's mom tonight.
She described her daughter as the most kind and caring person
She is. In such disbelief at all of
(01:29):
this. The suspect is behind bars
tonight. The details of this crime are
just really hard to stomach. Even some experts are left
scratching their heads at the brutality involved in this case.
All of this as a family searchesfor answers.
This is Miguel Gonzalez Rosales.Neighbors say blood was dripping
(01:52):
from his apartment Easter Sunday.
Inside is where police say he killed and dismembered Laura
Miller. He is 1 of 10 people now over
the last 10 years to be charged with destroying remains and
concealing a death. UNC Charlotte criminology
professor Doctor Cherise Coston couldn't believe the details of
(02:12):
the case. I was horrified.
While it is rare weak it's, it does happen.
Police say this wasn't a domestic situation, but
neighbors say the two knew each other and could often be heard
fighting. As recently as last Thursday, a
neighbor says she saw the suspect banging on Miller's door
(02:35):
with a baseball bat, telling herto open up or he would kill her.
Prosecutors say the 35 year old's mutilated body was found
surrounded by crosses made out of broken table legs with salt
sprinkled around her. Coston says despite the demonic
and religious imagery, there usually isn't a connection.
Sometimes they get it through music, sometimes they get it
(02:57):
through movies, you know, But asfar as that type of murder
itself, it's usually not connected to any real Satanism
or the occult. Finding out why this happened is
the focus of Miller's family, her uncle tells Channel 9.
(03:19):
They won't rest until they get answers.
We. Want to know why this happened?
Why did he have to do this? What?
What was the purpose of it? What kind of anger is that?
The man arrested does not have any significant criminal
history, just minor traffic infractions.
Police have not said what weaponwas used, but they said a gun
(03:42):
was not involved. Live in east Charlotte.
Joe Bruno, Channel 9 Eyewitness News.
As we learn more details about this case, it becomes even more
disturbing. Thank you for digging into it,
Joe. We're going to continue to
follow this case, including if and when that suspect appears in
court. You can also hear reactions from
Miller's neighbor. We have all that coverage on
wsoctv.com and on our free app. Hello, my demon insiders, and
(04:08):
welcome back to the Demon Inside.
I'm your host, John Venom, and today we are going to be doing
the case of the demon Inside Miguel Gonzalez Rosales.
Now I've been looking into this for some time and I was really
hoping that I could get more information as time went by.
(04:33):
Like I've talked to you before, what happens a lot of times is
that the newer cases I don't find a lot on, especially
because since COVID happened, a lot of these trials are way
backed up. So this case happened on Easter
Sunday, April of 2023. And Miguel Gonzalez Rosales, I
(05:00):
couldn't find any background to him.
I I scanned everywhere. As a matter of fact, I was even
thinking of getting in touch with him after the case was done
because the way it looked they were going to charge him with
murder and desecrating a body and auto theft.
(05:25):
Now the problem that I came to was quite recently he actually
died in prison. So now I was waiting for why or
how he died in prison and that hasn't come up either.
(05:50):
So let me give you what I do know about this case.
And like I said, it's not going to be a lot.
Uh, I ran his background with a DOB date of birth and he was
born December 26th, 1986. And like I said, his name is
Miguel Gonzalez Rosales, and I know he has a brother.
(06:13):
And other than that, he had no criminal history, according to
some of these reports. He had, you know, like traffic
tickets, things like that, but nothing to this extreme.
Now, what I did learn also was that he was the neighbor to the
(06:37):
victim. They lived in an apartment
complex. And this was in Charlotte, NC
and they lived next door to eachother.
They weren't dating. They weren't anything other than
neighbors or friends maybe. I don't know.
(06:58):
All I know is from what people have said through interviews
now, one of the guys that was the neighbor of them said that
they had seen him a few days before with a baseball bat
banging at the door, at her door, saying to let him in or he
(07:19):
would kill her. Now, if she felt threatened, I
believe she would have called the police.
And there was no report of that.So what the neighbor said is his
word because there's no file of it.
(07:40):
And this case is full of these things.
And who knows, maybe when he wasbanging on the door of her
apartment, maybe she wasn't evenhome, so she didn't even know it
happened to call the police. But what we do know for sure is
that on April 9th, 2023, on Easter Sunday, Miguel Rosales or
(08:06):
Miguel Gonzalez or Rosales killed his neighbor.
Now we're going to get into that.
And this is very graphic. So if you don't have a stomach
for this, and I've told you all this before, don't listen to
this. And I have to tell you how he
killed her because there's a lotof things that people like you
(08:31):
heard on the news news episode that I put at the beginning that
they don't know why he might have done this.
Now, from my point of view, I don't know exactly why he did
it. And I can't ask him because he's
not here anymore. But what I can do is tell you
(08:55):
what I might think happened. So this is from my point of
view, and this is coming from what we do on this show, my
background in not only Catholicism, but different
religions. Plus, you know, we've gone deep
(09:16):
into Old Testament type of philosophies that really, I
mean, could be possible. But forget all that for now.
And let's talk about how he killed her.
So on April 9th, like I said, itwas a Sunday, it was Easter
(09:40):
Sunday. Now, if you're not a Christian
or a Catholic or you know anybody that celebrates Easter,
let me explain what Easter is real quick.
And I'm sure everybody knows what Easter is.
Easter is the day that Jesus Christ rose from the dead and
came back to life after his crucifixion.
(10:02):
Now, it's believed that those three days he was in hell and
was real and was taking the souls of people out of hell that
were forgiven through his blood,through the body of Christ.
OK, now I'm not going to get religious on you.
That's what it was. So let's get into the crime.
(10:25):
His brother, which is Miguel's brother, showed up to Miguel's
house. Miguel wasn't there, but his
brother saw blood coming from the door and it was leaking onto
the front of the apartment, intothe concrete.
(10:50):
So he opened the door to his brother's apartment, and right
there by the door was the dead neighbor.
Now he called 911 right away andthe police get there.
And again, here's the warning. Again, this is going to be very
(11:11):
descriptive, but I have to do this for this show, so bear with
me. So the victim's ankles were
bound by a cable and there were multiple wires wrapped around
her neck. She also suffered from a
laceration starting at her neck and running to her belly button.
(11:35):
In other words, he stabbed her in the neck and he cut her open
down to her belly button. She had extensive damage to her
face to the point where she was unrecognizable.
(11:57):
The police observed a broken table in the apartment and he
had made three crosses from the pieces of the table surrounding
her body. Now also there were burns on
both inner thighs and salt was poured around her and the room.
(12:26):
There was human tissue found scattered throughout the
apartment and her tongue was found in the dining room.
There was blood on the floor outside of the apartment and
blood had seeped out of the doorand down to the floor below.
(12:51):
So as an investigator, these this is where I try to figure
out what he was doing. Now I've heard one show talk
about this. There's a handful of newspaper
articles online, but other than that, you know, a, a few
(13:13):
YouTube, actually 2 YouTube newsmedia things that I found.
And they were saying that it could have been, she could have
been tortured. Now, keep in mind, OK, and we're
going to start this off very basic.
(13:37):
He poured salt around her body and around the room.
And it wasn't like they got intoa fight where he, they, they hit
the salt thing. They specifically say it was
poured around her, not on her body, not between her legs, not
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on her face. They describe it as around her
body and around the room. Salt has a lot to do with
spirituality, but we'll get intothat next.
He placed three crosses from thebroken table pieces and
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surrounded her body. Remember this is Easter Sunday,
so on the crucifixion of Christ there was 3 crosses, the two
bandits and Jesus Christ. Why is that significant in this
case? Now the psychologist or whatever
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and, and she has her thoughts and theories, of course, which
are fine, but she doesn't deal with the Mexican culture that I
have. This guy is a Hispanic Mexican.
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I mean, we deal with this type of culture, and I'm not saying
what I'm saying is right, but a lot of these books don't
understand the culture. And if you don't understand the
culture, then you don't know where we're coming from now.
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Also, she didn't have anything tied around her mouth to suggest
that he was holding her from screaming.
I mean she could have screamed loud as hell and people in the
apartment complex. I know when I lived in one I
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could hear the neighbors upstairs just listening to their
TV. There was nothing covering her
mouth to stop her from screamingand nobody heard anything.
Her hands were not bound like her legs and her neck.
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Now there's a lot of ways he could have killed her by
crushing her face. He could have stopped her from
screaming by cutting out her tongue, which we heard about.
But if you're going to do that, then why torture her with the
burning of the inside of her legs?
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Unless you want to hear those screams?
Unless you want to hear your tortures doing an effect to your
victim. A lot of this to me doesn't make
sense. One of the people that I heard
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on one of the only person that Iheard talk about the salt, said
that they were, he was pouring salt into her wounds.
Yeah, I didn't see any of that on any of the news things that I
found. Maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know. But that's a jump, especially if
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you see the salt around you. And that's what they described.
They didn't describe salt in thewounds.
They describe salt around the body.
So this guy kills his neighbor, does all this evil to her, pours
the salt around her, puts the crosses, locks the door to his
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apartment and leaves in her car.Now they catch him two hours
later down the road. The body.
They didn't say how long she hadbeen deceased, so I am assuming
that it happened that morning, maybe not too long before the
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Brother got there. I would have found it more
strange if he would have killed her Friday night or Friday
morning when it was the crucifixion of Christ, which
would have been Good Friday and then they found him on the OR.
They found her on Easter Sunday.This doesn't have anything to do
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with a Satanic Colt or Satanism or any of that.
This guy, he was trying to fighta demon.
Now, I'm not saying that she wasa demon.
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She was not possessed. She was not a demon.
The demons were in him and they probably made him look at her as
if she was a demon and he was fighting this demon and trying
to keep her soul from going withthe demons.
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And that's why he put the crosses around her, and that's
why he put the salt around her to ward off the evil spirits so
that her soul could be lifted and go to heaven.
OK, so let's go ahead and talk about the salt.
And I was going to tell you, I've dealt with salt for
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protection from evil spirits in the house.
We've done sage. I've done holy water and salt.
And this is coming straight fromthe Internet.
A lot of times, some of the stuff it's harder, it's it's
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harder for me to explain from mypoint of view.
So I'm going to read from the Internet and this is what it
says. In spirituality, salt symbolizes
purification, protection, and spiritual cleansing, acting as a
barrier against negative energies and evil spirits.
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It is also associated with grounding spiritual energies,
fostering harmony, and representing eternal bonds of
covenants as seen in traditions from Judaism to Hinduism and
Christian metaphorical uses. It's preservation qualities also
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link to vitality, healing, and the concept of spiritual
rebirth. This guy thought that she for
some odd reason was possessed, but it was him who was possessed
and hearing the voices. He wasn't possessed himself
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because if he was, he wouldn't care about throwing the salt and
doing all that stuff Demons don't care about.
The spirituality are the souls of us.
And that's what he did now. I would have loved to have
talked to him to see what he wasthinking at the time, if he even
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remembered. I couldn't because he was still
in the process of being tried, like he was still going to
court. And now we come to this problem.
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So on August of 2025, Miguel Gonzalez Rosales died in prison,
and I've been waiting for them to send notice of how he died,
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and nobody has said anything. Now, if he would have committed
suicide, that would have been onthe news.
If he would have been killed, that would have been on the
news. They have not said how he died
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because I believe they don't know how he died.
This was a guy who was in his 30s and there's rumors that the
facility where he was at was mistreating people because there
is a lot of accusations against the place where he was staying.
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I'm not going to get into the conspiracy theories and all
that. I mean, you're, you can look it
up just like I found it. I mean, you're not going to find
much, but there are people that are suing that place.
So maybe he was mistreated and he died and they're keeping it
from everybody. Or maybe, just maybe the demon
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that was infesting him, because I do believe this was an
infestation. I believe that this demon told
him to kill his victim because that she was possessed and he
was doing service to God or to whoever.
And he believed it like we've heard on so many episodes
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before, except his nationality as is mine.
We put he put the salt around her and the crosses because
whether or not anybody really believes it, he cared about her.
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There was a lot of anger involved in this crime for all
the things that he did to her. Now let me give you this and
just bear with me because I knowas a investigator this is going
to sound very far fetched. So for those of you that are not
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in the true car, that are into true crime but not into the
spiritual side, you might not like this part.
What I believe is that this demon infested him, showed her
being possessed even though she wasn't just like the last
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episode where he didn't rememberor he didn't see anything that
he did. White if you guys remember him
on the last episode and this demon took over a little bit and
started by killing her first. OK bear with me.
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Now let's say he crushed her head but in his eyes she was
still fighting and moving like ademon.
Because let me tell you this guys he has a shit load of
scratches on his face and I'm sure they're all over him where
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this lady put up a hell of a fight but it was too much for
her. Now what I believe also is that
when he killed her, which was probably very quickly, he kept
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seeing that the demon was still alive and he kept fighting this
demon to stop it from talking. So he cut out her tongue.
He kept fighting this demon where he crushed her head, he
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kept fighting this demon and to make sure that the demon was
dead, he started burning the inside of her legs to make sure
that this demon was dead. And then after all this was said
and done, he left. Now I know what you're thinking.
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The salt and the crosses were put before he had even did
anything to her. They were set up for her so that
when he was going to get rid of the demon, he placed her in the
middle of that circle and he dideverything in that circle.
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And that's why he threw the tongue into the dining room so
that the demon would shut up. This was a very hard case for
me, guys, because it kind of hits close to home sometimes.
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And I really do, don't get me wrong, feel sorry for all the
victims, which is her, her family, him, his family.
And now that the demon's done with them, the demon got rid of
him and that's all they want. And now he's going to move on to
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his next. Thanks for listening, guys.
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