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I am doing this show pretty muchraw and without editing, so if
you could bear with me on the season finale, I'll explain why.
But before I do that, let me letyou know this.
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This episode is dedicated to a very good friend of mine,
Katarina, who is a Austin policeSergeant and she listens to my
show and I promised her a shout out and I'm dedicating this
episode to her. Hello, my demon insiders, and
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welcome back to The Demon Inside.
I'm your host, John Venom. And today we actually have two
cases that we're going to talk about.
The first one is going to be theDemon inside William Butler, and
the second one is going to be Gary Wayne Leslie Junior.
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Now, before I begin, this is theseason finale and I had finished
the season finale, but in recentdays I actually lost all of my
recordings, everything that I'veever done, all the information I
ever had on not only my computer, but my tablets and
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also my backup files that were on a disk.
And so this is the season finaleof season 2 and I'm re recording
it. And as I'm re recording it,
Leslie Junior came up and I started to figure out that this
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could be also one of the patterns that I've been looking
for this whole time. And it kind of fills in some of
the gaps. But before we do all that, let
me tell you this to these two cases do not have a lot of
information. I'm going to give you what I
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have. And I did a deep dive on both of
these cases and I really couldn't find too much.
I couldn't find any recordings of any news media.
I couldn't find any history of or background checks on or any
of that. So I'm going to give you as much
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as I can, as much as I have as far as news on it.
And it's not a lot, but it's enough to fill the gaps of what
I'm trying to talk about here asfar as the pattern goes.
But let's get, let's get into the first one first.
The first one is going to be Gary or I'm sorry.
The first one is going to be William Butler.
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Now, this happened in Fort Walton Beach, FL and William
Butler on October 25th of 2016 killed his wife, his daughter,
his son, and the second son actually got away from him and
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then he ended up killing himself.
So according to records and according to what I could find,
and it's not even according to records, it's according to what
I found out on news feeds are not news feeds, but the news,
the printed news was that William Butler was 46 years old
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on October 25th of 2016. And at 5:45 AM, the Police
Department received a phone callfrom a 17 year old, which was
his son. And his son said that his dad
had killed his sister, his brother and his mom.
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Now, during that argument or fight, the police show up.
They end up finding William Butler, his wife who was 43
years old, his son who was 20, and his daughter Caitlin who was
14. Now he had a William had a
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background and a not very good one.
Like I told you on the last episodes, Patrick Dale and Don
Spirit had very bad backgrounds.These were not good guys.
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They were very violent, but lifetaking, life taking types of
men. It wasn't in there Forte, but
this guy was the same. This guy had a background of
being violent to the point wherehis daughter, the 14 year old,
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had complained about it before and police had been involved
with their family for a while now.
A few years earlier he had got into a fight with his wife and
took away her keys because he thought that she was doing drugs
and that she was a Satan worshipper and he didn't want
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her to take away his daughter. Then we go two years later where
he ends up killing the family. Now he ended up shooting himself
and killing himself and the police went in and they found a
knife and they found the shotgun.
Now this is similar to Don Spirit because Don Spirit
remember he stabbed his wife or his daughter first.
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Don stabbed his daughter 1st andthen he shot her and killed her.
William killed his wife by stabbing her with a knife, and
then he killed his two kids witha gun and then he killed
himself. Like I said, this guy wasn't a
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very good guy. His daughter had actually
complained about him. She says that it's because of
him that he she would cut herself.
Now, if that's true or not, I don't know, because I've known
kids that have cut themselves before and they lived in an
entirely great family. So what she was going through,
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I'm not saying that she didn't. I'm just saying that mental
health is something that people need to be aware of and if this
guy was saying that his wife wasinto the devil worshipping, they
should have started looking intohis mental health.
Now, I know a lot of people can't afford it, and there's
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other people that feel like it'sa bad thing to go to counseling
and things like that, but it's better than this case.
It's better than going and killing your family.
So this happened in Fort Walton Beach, FL, which is almost all
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the way across Florida from the opposite side of where Don
Spirit was at in Belle, Florida.This happened October 26 or
25th, 2016. Then we come to our next case.
Our next case, like I said, I just found it and I started
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doing as much background as I could.
And this was, uh, Lindsay, I'm sorry, it was Gary Wayne Lindsay
junior. Now Gary Wayne Lindsay Junior
was a bad guy as well. From what people talked about as
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far as on the news media. They said that the he had been
involved in criminal activity for a long time.
He was actually under suspicion for arson.
He was on probation at the time that this happened.
This case happened in Orlando, FL on June 12th 2018 and he
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killed 4 kids, two over his own.Two were his his wife's and
they're such a cute family guys it's so sad.
They range from age from 1:00 to12:00.
And when the police arrived at the apartment, Lindsay was still
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alive. They don't think the kids were
alive anymore, but he was sayingthey were.
And when he ended up killing himself, they rushed in and they
found all of them had been dead.On Sunday night, Orlando police
received a call from a woman whosaid Lindsay was her boyfriend
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and that he had battered her during an argument.
She had fled the apartment afterhe attacked her and called
police from a nearby restaurant.When officers arrived at the
apartment, Lindsay opened fire on them.
He actually shot a police officer.
Officer Valencia was seriously injured.
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Lindsay barricaded himself in the apartment with the four
children. Police negotiator spoke to him
several times during what would become 21 hour standoff.
At the end of this 21 hour standoff, Lindsay shot himself.
Now the police think that the kids were already dead at by
this time. They found Lindsay dead in a
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closet. Now this was pretty much all the
information I could find on thiscase and this happened like I
said, on June 12th, 2018 and. Now again, like I said, this
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happened in Orlando, FL and for me this kind of fits the pattern
because this happened in 2018 and like I've been talking to
you about Paul Michael marriage who he committed his crime on
November 26th, 2009. Remember he left Miami and drove
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all the way to Jupiter, FL wherehe ended up killing his family
and where he killed his family. Austin Haroff killed his victims
3 miles away from there. Now here's the thing, and I'm
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going to try to explain this. And like I said, these are the
two crimes that happened, but I want to get more into the
pattern. So as far as true crime, I have
given you the 2 two true crimes.I've given you the names.
If you want to look them up, youknow, go for it.
But I have to put this all together for my show as a
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pattern. And for the next few minutes,
I'm going to try to do that for you.
And we're going to take it slowly because I see the pattern
in my head, but I'm trying to get it out there to you so that
you can see it for yourself. Now, the way I see it is like
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this if a demon, let's just callthe demon family annihilator
demon Fid FID, our family annihilator demon FAD fad.
So let's call this demon Fad. Fad shows up November 26th, 2009
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in Miami. Fad drives from Miami to
Jupiter, FL where he kills. Now I'm not going to mention the
names because I don't want to get everybody confused so I'm
going to portray it through the eyes of this demon, OK?
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Then Fad drives all the way downto the Florida Keys where the
police pick him up and they drive him back to Jupiter, FL.
Then January 23rd of 2010 Fad goes to Del Rey and kills a
family which is Neil Jacobson's family.
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Then Fad September 27th of 2010 goes to West Palm Beach which is
Riviera and kills Patrick Dale'sfamily.
Then September 18th 2014 Bell orFad kills Don Spirits family in
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Belle Florida. Then Fad goes to Fort Walton
Beach, FL where he kills WilliamButler's family October 25th,
2016. And then he goes to Orlando, FL
where he kills Gary Wayne Lindsay Junior's family June
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15th, 2018. Now if you look at it like this,
don't look at it in times of years.
Look at it in minutes. Demons have a different time
frame than we do. Demons have no time.
So for me, in order to show you what I'm talking about, I'm
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going to show you how his dog follows behind him if he was a
person and if these years were taken in two seconds or minutes.
OK, so Thad is in Miami and thengoes to Delray and then goes to
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West Palm Beach and then Bell Florida.
Now between West Palm Beach and Florida in 2012 in Miami, the
doggie comes out of its home. So the fad is actually 3.
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FAD is actually 5 minutes ahead of doggie, so now the doggie has
to catch his scent and follow Fad.
So the doggie starts in Miami where he takes Rudy Eugene and
then he ends up in Annis and Joseph two years two years later
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which is actually 2 minutes later in Delray.
Then in Jupiter, FL in 2016 in Austin Haroff where Fad had gone
from Don Spirit in Belle Floridato William Butler at Fort Walton
Beach. Now Fort Walton Beach is all the
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way across. So the doggie is following up to
to Jupiter, FL. Then I think Master or Fad sees
his doggie has come looking for him and he comes back towards
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Orlando, FL where Doggy is in Jupiter and Master is in Fort
Walton and they meet in Orlando,FL where Gary Wayne Lindsay
kills his family. Now from Orlando, FL what
happens? Doggy and Fad get together and
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this is where I put these two demons.
Whether one's a doggy, one's a master, whatever, it doesn't
matter. Fad and Doggy, just to make it
easier, meet in Orlando, FL and they hitch a ride from the
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Montgomery Biscuits and Tampa Bay Rays.
Now all this is in Orlando, which is the Tampa Bay Rays,
their Baseball League. It's a minor league and Blake
Blevins was part of this league where he was probably in these
areas. I know he was playing for the
Montgomery Biscuits, which is owned by the Tampa Bay Rays, and
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he was getting ready to be promoted as a pitcher to the
Tampa Bay Rays, which is in Orlando.
So I believe that if it wasn't with Blake Blevins, it could
have been with anybody from thatteam.
It could have been anybody in the stands.
It could have been anybody from that baseball society or
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anything that is related. And this demon traveled up to
Montgomery and then all the way up to Matthew Bernard on August
27th, 2019. Now, if you don't remember
Matthew Bernard, I suggest goingback and listening to my show
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from back then. Because back then I had where I
was showing you how this dog, this beast, this demon, whatever
went from Rudy Eugene in 2012 toAnderson Joseph February 2014
Austin hair off August 15th, 2016 which was two years, two
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years, two years apart. Then they go to Matthew Bernard.
Now I counted from August 15th of 2016 to August 27th, 2019,
which is 2 years exactly to the day.
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This is when Matthew Bernard gets.
Fad into him, goes in, shoots his family, then runs out into
the woods where doggie is playing in the woods and the
doggie gets into Matthew and that's why Matthew comes running
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out naked and trying to bait bite the face off of people.
I know guys, this is hard to accept but this is my pattern.
This is a pattern that I found because I was following the
doggie 1st and to me it didn't sit well that there was 2
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separate types of demons in Matthew Bernard.
For me, the two demons our Fad and this doggie and even back
then I told everybody that I knew there was 2 demons.
I just couldn't figure out what the other demon was.
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Now I know that it was Fad who came up from Miami all the way
up and little Doggie followed him.
I know this is hard to believe, guys.
I really do. Because me doing this show has
been really hard for me to believe 'cause honestly guys,
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when I first started this show, I wasn't expecting to find
patterns. I wasn't expecting to find more
than one or two, you know, weirdcases.
I wasn't expecting to find anything.
But after all these shows later,it's hard to deny that there's
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something there. Maybe I'm seeing my pattern and
maybe you guys see something different and that's OK.
If you see something different, let me know.
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. I've had people tell me, you
know, look at the geography of it, which I have started.
Some people have told me look atthe dates, look at the times.
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They mean something. I am willing to take suggestions
of what you want. Now, if you're going to tell me
that demons do not exist, then that's something completely
different. Because it doesn't matter if you
believe it or not, there's stilla pattern to this.
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And for me as an investigator, as somebody that has done crime
cases before, murders, robberies, rapes, things like
that, there's always a pattern. And you cannot deny the pattern
and you cannot say that it's coincidence because there is no
such thing as coincidence. These things happen because
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there's a reason for them to happen.
And I believe the reason is a demon.
And in this case, it's two demons.
And I believe that. And I don't want to get too
spiritual on you, but I believe that my whole end of this season
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was deleted from my stuff so that I can redo this case and
fill in all the gaps that I wanted.
And that's why I took the time to put in this next guy, Gary,
because I felt like he is part of the pattern.
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And I do not want it to get away.
I want to show you the whole pattern.
If you want to look up the pattern, I am serious with this.
Look up the locations that I have told you and see how they
go all the way up to Matthew Bernard.
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We're talking from Miami to Delray to Jupiter and then we go
further north to Orlando and we go all the way across to Fort
Walton. This is not something that I'm
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trying to connect. This is something that connects
because it is connecting. Now before I finish this season
off, let me tell you one thing. There is going to be a Season 3
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and I will be doing Season 3 coming in October.
And if you don't remember, and Iknow I've got you on these
patterns and I know I got you a doggie and I got you with Thad
the Master, don't forget Colin Scheck.
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Remember that guy? Remember that case?
Colin Scheck was the guy that bit the face off of somebody in
Las Vegas. You thought I forgot about that?
Or maybe you forgot about that, but Colin Scheck started in San
Diego, CA before he went out to Las Vegas a few days later where
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he bit the face off of somebody.And guess who was in San Diego
that same year that that happened?
You damn right it was. It was Fad the master, he was in
San Diego killing another familywith a gun as a man and more
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than one kid. We're talking wife and children.
If you don't believe me just listen next season when I start
in October for season 3. Thank you guys for listening to
my series. I hope you all enjoyed this
season and if you all have any questions or anything, I suggest
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you'll see every place that my merchandise is where my all my
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there and I'm trying to get morestuff.
So if you bear with me, rememberI'm doing this alone.
I really don't have anybody to help me with this and I really
don't have funding for it, but I'm giving it a try.
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And like I said in October, I'llhave some new shows for you for
this summer. I hope you guys have a good
summer. Be safe.
Don't don't get into anything troubling or at least too much
trouble and take care of yourselves.
And hopefully by the end of the summer, I'll have a new book
that I can publicize next year and I would love for you guys to
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