The Detour

The Detour

Each month, host Adam Davis and guests explore tough questions about how we live together. Conversations on The Detour connect ideas and personal experiences without looking for easy solutions. Here we find the path to understanding often takes unexpected turns. The Detour is produced by Oregon Humanities.

Episodes

The Shared World with Naomi Shihab Nye

July 24, 2026 • 52 mins
In a world divided by borders and beliefs, how can poetry and storytelling bring us back to one another? Naomi Shihab Nye is an award-winning poet and novelist who has traveled the world meeting people and observing the ways poems offer meaning, comfort, and belonging. She sees poetry as a true bridge between people, cultures, and nations, sharing that in all her travels, she has yet to find a place “where poetry do...
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Beyond 250 with Wendy Willis and Nick Nash

July 1, 2026 • 59 mins
With the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence just days away, we talk with two people who have been leading conversations about that anniversary in communities across Oregon.  Wendy Willis runs Oregon's Kitchen Table and writes poetry and essays, including several pieces in Oregon Humanities magazine, and moved to Portland after growing up in Springfield. Nick Nash is from Pendleton and teaches philosophy and w...
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What Sports Are for with Jules Boykoff and Georgia Cloepfil

May 29, 2026 • 52 mins
With the 2026 Men's World Cup right around the corner, we're thinking about soccer and sports: What does it feel like to play? And what does it take to play at a high level? We're thinking about not only the playing of sports, but also the business and the politics of sports, and about how sports—played, watched, and worked at—affect our bodies, our attention, and our communities. We talk first with Georgia Cloepfil, au...
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Work and Words with Lydia Kiesling, Nicholas Hengen Fox, and Jorge Herrera Caro

May 1, 2026 • 52 mins
Summary for Labor.In celebration of International Workers' Day and in conjunction with the "Labor" issue of Oregon Humanities magazine, this episode of The Detour explores how work shapes our lives. What is work for? Are work and labor the same thing? And what, if anything, makes work meaningful? To get at these questions, we talk with three people who spend a lot of time thinking about labor and work. First, we speak wit...
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Stories that Change Us with Colum McCann and Nelson High School Students

April 1, 2026 • 59 mins
In this episode we hear from Colum McCann, a National Book Award–winning novelist and cofounder of Narrative 4, a nonprofit organization that uses personal storytelling to build empathy between young people. Colum is Irish and lives in New York, and he joined us in February 2026 for a conversation about stories, national character, identity, and the 250th anniversary, of the Declaration of Independence. You'll also ...
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CM Hall on Public Service and Running for Office

March 1, 2026 • 59 mins
In this episode we talk about public service and elected office with CM Hall, a city councilor in Newport, Oregon and the executive director of emerge Oregon, an organization that identifies, trains, and inspires women to run for office.
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How to Move About the World with Meg Wade

February 1, 2026 • 59 mins
Meg Wade rarely drives. There are, in Meg's view, so many other ways to move about in the world, and most or all of these other modes—walking, taking the bus, taking the train, and more, have a lot to offer to us, our communities, and our world. Through Meg's writing with Oregon Humanities and other outlets, Meg provokes us to pay a lot more attention to where we are, what it means to move about in the ways tha...
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Thinking About Equality with Akhil Reed Amar

January 1, 2026 • 52 mins
This year, in observation of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, we're exploring the core values and ideas our nation claims to be committed to. We're calling this yearlong effort Beyond 250. For our first episode, we're focusing on equality: what we mean by it, where we live up to our hopes related to equality and where we fall short, and how understandings on equality have changed throughout our nation's his...
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Building Spaces with Brad Cloepfil

November 19, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, we talk with Oregon architect Brad Cloepfil of Allied Works. Brad grew up in Tigard and has designed beautiful buildings all over our state and the world: art museums, private homes, a sports stadium expansion, and even a US embassy. Brad is someone who thinks about and then dreams into being the spaces where we live our lives—especially the parts of our lives that include silence, listening, and a sense...
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Character Work and Community Work with Paul Susi

November 1, 2025 • 59 mins
This week we talk with Paul Susi, a theater artist, a social services professional, an educator, and a writer who is also so much more than any blurb could say. He's a person who's trying to live in the world and be fully open to its suffering and darkness as well as to the beauty that it holds. He's trying to reckon clearly with our past and to move toward a more gentle, patient and just future. He's also trying to connect an...
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Life in Another Language with Aleksandr Chernousov

October 1, 2025 • 59 mins
In 2022, on the day before Russia invaded Ukraine, Aleksander Chernousov left Russia for Oregon. He was headed here to study Russian-speaking communities in the Pacific Northwest through the University of Oregon. (Russian is the fourth most common language in Oregon.) Aleks didn't know then that Oregon would become his long-term home. Since getting here, Aleks has talked to hundreds of people from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kaz...
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Talking with Kids About Learning

September 1, 2025 • 52 mins
In this episode, we talk with kids at the Gilbert House Children's Museum, in Salem, and and at Grace Art Camp, in Portland, about learning, creativity, and joy, and also about school and the summer.
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The Lands We Live on with Chuck Sams

August 1, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode we talk with Chuck Sams, the nineteenth director of the National Park Service, about public lands, relationships between people and the places where they live, and what national parks are for. Sams is Cayuse and Walla Walla and an enrolled member of the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation.  In addition to directing the National Park Service, he has served as an intelligence speciali...
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Reinventing American Democracy with Danielle Allen

July 1, 2025 • 59 mins
Danielle Allen is a professor, author, and former candidate for governor in the state of Massachusetts. Her books include "Justice by Means of Democracy," "Our Declaration," and "Talking to Strangers," as well as a report called "Our Common Purpose: Reinventing American Democracy for the 21st Century." This idea, reinventing our democracy or renovating it, has occupied Danielle for decades. As you'll hear, Danielle h...
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Creatures We Love and Creatures We Fear with Bobby Fossek, Erica Berry, and Wendy Bingham

June 1, 2025 • 59 mins
Why do we welcome some animals and plants into our lives, while we reject others? In this episode, we explore the boundaries of fear and belonging in relation to the other living creatures we share this planet with. Our guests are Wendy Bingham, a cattle rancher; Erica Berry, author of the book Wolfish; and Bobby Fossek, who works on ecosystem restoration, among many other things. This conversation was recorded in Pendleton, O...
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A Festival of Belonging with Laura Lo Forti, Laveta Gilmore Jones, and Kelly Bosworth

May 1, 2025 • 59 mins
Built nearly overnight during World War II, Vanport was the second-largest and most integrated city in Oregon until it was destroyed by a flood in 1948. Remarkably, the meaning of Vanport continues to deepen and expand, thanks in large part to the annual Vanport Mosaic Festival. In this episode we hear from Laura Lo Forti, Laveta Gilmore Jones, and Kelly Bosworth, three people whose lives are wrapped up in Vanport and the...
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Poetry and Politics with Anis Mojgani

March 28, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, we talk with Anis Mojgani, who served as Oregon's Poet Laureate from 2020 to 2024, about the complex relationship between poetry and politics. Recorded live in Portland in January 2025, this conversation between Anis and host Adam Davis examines the unique role of the governor-appointed laureate and the nature of what makes something—a poem or a piece of art—"political." Anis an...
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Our Place in the World with Ben Rhodes

February 28, 2025 • 59 mins
In this episode, we talk with Ben Rhodes, a former national security advisor to President Barack Obama and current host of Pod Save the World, about the ways that everyday citizens can understand and engage with our complex global system. Drawing on his eight years in the White House and his work since as an author and podcast host, Rhodes identifies pivotal moments that have shaped our current international landscap...
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Manu Meel is Betting on Bridging

February 1, 2025 • 59 mins
We talk with Manu Meel, whose organization, BridgeUSA, works on getting young people to think and talk across political differences. Manu and BridgeUSA are making a bet on democracy—a bet relies on Manu's sense that most people, most of the time, do want to talk with and listen to each other.
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Why We Need the News with Emily Harris and Lee van der Voo

January 2, 2025 • 60 mins
Adam Davis talks with Leigh Van der Voo and Emily Harris, two deeply experienced Oregon-based journalists who are working together, along with John Schrag, on Uplift Local, a new organization striving to empower communities through high-quality, community-first reporting and partnerships that close news gaps and disrupt misinformation. As you'll hear from Lee and Emily, Oregon and the nation are facing a range of serious challenges...
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