October 6, 2025 • 37 mins
A Yankee fan’s journey turns into a lifelong map of ballparks, national parks, and chance encounters—from caddying for Mickey Mantle to celebrating a Bernie Williams walk-off. We explore how rituals, travel, and minor league magic make the game bigger than rivalries.
• falling for baseball through cards, box scores and family lore
• caddying for Mantle, Ford and a mustard-stained autograph
• learning to love parks beyond the Yankees’ fortunes
• Bernie Williams walk-off memory and rare first-pitch homer
• ballpark rituals: full walkaround, local beer and food, cone-only ice cream
• collecting less merch, finding better stories
• stitching trips: MLB cities, MiLB towns and national parks
• why baseball fits a year-round rhythm and renews hope
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
I was, you know, I'm I was a scorny little
15-year-old kid and at the ninthhole he wanted to buy me a beer.
You know, just on the no no no,he's not a great, you can't do
that.
You can't do everything you everheard about him, that's just the
way he was.
So Okay, let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:22):
All right, all right, and welcome everybody to
another episode of the DinaheadChronicles Podcast.
My name is Ed, also known as theDeadhead.
We got five questions today foryou guys.
And today I have a good friend,one who follows the baseball
world.
As you guys already know, it's avery small world, you know,
minor league baseball and uhmajor league baseball.
I have Tom.
Tom, thank you so much forjoining us in Five Questions.
(00:44):
How are you doing today, myfriend?
SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
Oh, I'm doing well.
Thanks.
Thanks so much for having me on.
I mean, I've been listening tothis podcast for a while, and I
love the uh answers I've heardso far.
And um, you're gonna find someof my answers sound a little
familiar because you know, forone, I'm a Yankee fan, and uh I
know you already have one Yankeefan on there, and everything
Donnie said was a we oh I don'tI don't remember that guy.
You don't remember that?
Okay, yeah, no, maybe I wasdreaming about it or something.
(01:08):
But yeah, no, but um yeah, I'm alifelong uh baseball Yankee fan,
especially, but a baseball fan.
Um and I'm a Yankee fan, so letme let me just start with that.
And for a large part of my lifefrom like 1980 to uh the early
1990s, you might know theYankees weren't really a top
team.
So that got me, you know, therereally wasn't a lot to cheer for
(01:31):
in those days.
Don Matterley, of course, andsome of the other hitters that
they had, but um watching Yankeegames though, you did get to see
a lot of the other ballparks onTV, and you know, like seeing
Fenway, seeing that greenmonster, seeing those uh the the
reporting uh areas up on top,those big the big rooms they had
on top.
It was just like it was such acool looking stadium, yeah.
(01:52):
Uh Wrigley Field, of course.
You know, as you're watchingother baseball games, you see
always wanted to see that.
And um Tiger Stadium, the oldTiger Stadium with that
overhang, and just you know, thestories about how high you would
have to hit the ball for it toyou know actually land on the
field, but not be a ball, youknow.
There was always the argumentsof how that overhang affected
home runs and stuff.
But I just had to see that oncebefore a close.
(02:14):
So we'll you know we'll get intothat, I hope.
But yeah, just loved just lovedthe the differences in the
ballparks and was eager to checkthem out once I got into road
trip.
SPEAKER_01 (02:21):
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's the whole beautyabout baseball, right?
Because every dimension, everyballpark is different, their
heads are on dimensions andeverything.
And that's the beauty aboutthem.
So, all right.
So uh, you know what?
Actually, let's just jump rightin.
Uh uh, Tom.
You know, I want to want to getto know a little bit, you know,
want to get to know about you,right?
The fan.
Like, you know, the you're grew,you grew up a Yankee fan.
(02:43):
So uh when did you when did youfall in love with the with the
game of baseball?
Like what was that?
Did you have that moment, thatpivotal moment, or is it like
it's just a combination ofmoments?
What was that for you?
SPEAKER_00 (02:54):
It it's mostly a lot of mid-70s stuff.
Um, a lot of it came from mymom.
Uh, my mom was a Yankee fan.
She grew up in Manhattan andalways talked about how she, as
a little girl, could travel byherself up to Yankee Stadium,
um, you know, see Joe DiMaggio,Yogi Bearer, and all these other
players.
And that got me captivated rightaway.
And then in the early 70s, theYankees, you know, started
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winning some games in WorldSeries and stuff.
So I got into it.
But what really got me werebaseball cards, that first
Christmas or Holy Communion,whatever, where I got that's you
know, like a six, you know, boxof baseball cards, and just
going through them.
Uh, loved the pictures on themand loved especially flipping
them over and seeing those oldschool, you know, batting
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averages and seeing, oh, thisguy was playing in the 1950s.
You know, you'd occasionally getan old card from like say Frank
Robinson or somebody in there,and Hank Garon, I had a couple
of them.
Yeah, 1974 was my first set, sohe had just broken the record,
and you know, um, there were awhole bunch of cards given out
for him, and you know, I hadlike three or four of them.
I eventually got collected allof those.
So baseball cards, especially,and the other thing were box
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scores, the newspaper boxscores.
Um, you know, open thenewspaper, and you know, after
it got passed around the family,I wanted to see, you know, how
the team did, how each player upand down the lineup did, how the
opposing players did, how thepitches went.
Um, I just love that wholeaspect of it.
And when the Yankees would go onthe road, and then you know,
maybe if it was in the Midwestand it was uh you know an hour
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late start, it might make thenext day's newspaper, or you'd
have to wait for the next day.
But when it went out to the WestCoast and you know, you had to
wait an extra full day, and wedidn't have ESPN or you know,
sports apps or anything.
We had to wait kind of you knowfor uh box sports to see the
details of the game, and youknow, it was just all that.
I I loved that whole aspect ofit.
And if I could just mention onemore thing that helped me, yeah,
(04:41):
go for it, absolutely.
Um, so yeah, so 1970, late1970s, Yankees were doing well,
of course.
1980, I got my first real job,um, and that was as a caddy on a
uh for a country club on LongIsland where a lot of famous uh
people played, uh, got chanceslike so.
I got met I met Sean Connerythere, uh Jim McKay, but I also
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met a bunch of the the New YorkIslanders during their Stanley
Club Ranger fan, but I met a lotof the Islander players and I
met some of the great Yankees,Whitey Ford, uh Mickey Manle.
I caddy for him, and Tommy Johnwas the other one that I wait
you caddy for Mickey Manno, yes,sir.
If you if you scroll back on myInstagram, you will see a uh
scorecard that I had.
SPEAKER_01 (05:23):
Um that's insanity.
SPEAKER_00 (05:25):
Yes, it was.
I was you know, I'm I was ascorny little 15-year-old kid,
and at the ninth hole he wantedto buy me a beer, you know, just
I'm like, No, no, no, don't he'sunderraid.
You can't do that, you can't doeverything you ever heard about
him, that's just the way he was.
So, yeah, I mean I I was in lovethat whole time that so I yeah,
I mean Yankees gave me thatgreat history, and I was just
you know in love with it rightfrom uh that that whole time,
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and then every year it was like,All right, we'll come back next
year, we'll come back next year,but right they said they didn't.
SPEAKER_01 (05:53):
No, no, like yeah, they they just like all of a
sudden they just kept going toother things.
But that's cool though, like youactually get to have a piece of
memorabilia that you know,honestly, not a lot of us will
ever come close to, right?
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
Like, I mean, you you got too caddy for Mickey
Manual, yes, and I got thescorecard that uh Bob Hope and
uh Whitey Ford signed together.
Mickey Manel.
Oh my god, Mickey Mann went tosign it and he was eating a hot
dog, and he actually like kindof it kind of slipped and
mustard splattered all over thecard, so he wiped it off.
Um, and he you know, I told himthat the card was for my mother,
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and he's like, Well, just tellyour mom this is Mickey Mantle's
mustard, and then he just kindof laughed.
And I still have it.
And if you look at the picture,you could actually see if you
you can probably I won't wasteyour time with it, but you could
actually see the little mustardstain this summer.
I went on a road trip, I went toTulsa, and they have a Mickey
Mantle day every year, and hissons were there.
Sons gotta be in their you know,mid mid to late 70s, I guess.
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And I got to tell them thestory, show them the picture and
stuff, and it was just like kindof a nice moment, and yeah, we
know he played out, but yeah, itwas just kind of nice little
connection I had.
So both that full circle, youknow.
SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
Tom, you're making it very hard for me to hate a
lot of Yankee fans, right?
Because I'm a Clevelander,right?
As you already know, is a is arival.
But like I I tell this toDonnie, you know, who's a mutual
friend of ours, right?
You know, Donnie, who's on ouron a uh That has Chronicle
Sports Show every Tuesday,Thursdays at 8 p.m.
And uh make sure you guys uhcatch it on uh on YouTube and
all that.
But what the whole point is isthe more and more I keep doing
(07:21):
these podcasts, and the more andmore I get to meet other people
across the the US when it comesto baseball, it becomes
extremely hard for you to hateor dislike fans of other of
other teams, right?
Because for the longest time Idid not like the tigers.
I have a friend of mine who's atigers fan, right?
(07:41):
And it's like we're all justfans.
Yeah, at the end of the day, wejust bury fanatics.
SPEAKER_00 (07:47):
You could just enjoy the game so much more once you
cross that line.
SPEAKER_01 (07:50):
Oh my god, so much better.
I can sit down and watch.
Like, I'm literally, you know,right now at the time of this
recording, the the DetroitTigers and the Seattle Mariners
are playing, right?
So I come in, I got it on theside, and I'm like, I have no
animosity towards it.
I was like, I'm not gonna sayit's like, oh, I don't want to
watch it.
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it becauseit's you know, like Derek School
is one of the best bitches outthere right now.
(08:11):
Yeah, I mean, this dude islegit, right?
So you want to see how he does.
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
And yeah, and and the minor leagues also
contribute a lot to that.
I'm in the Hudson Valley for thelongest time.
The Hudson Valley's uh renegadeswere a Tampa Bay Ray affiliate,
right?
So here I am 15 minutes from theballpark, and the Rays, you
know, farm team is coming in,you know, coming through there.
And what are you gonna do?
You're gonna boo them, you know.
When no, yeah, you have to cheerfor them.
(08:39):
But now what happens when theStaten Island Yankees play them?
Who do you so you're just kindof clapping for everybody,
cheering for you?
SPEAKER_01 (08:44):
Don't it that's the beauty about minor league
baseball, right?
That you're able to cheer forthat player or that team because
they're uh they're in the minorleagues, you know, like they're
like for example, the HudsonValley Randegates, right?
Granted, yes, they are a a uh aYankee farm system now, but like
you said before, they weren't.
Yeah, it's it's a wild world,right?
(09:06):
Like minor league baseball.
Oh my god, people need to getinto minor league baseball.
It's the greatest thing in theworld.
SPEAKER_00 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, Mets going, I mean,
Syracuse going from the uhWashington to the to the Mets.
I mean, again, rivalry is like,hey, hey, uh New York Mets,
here's our entire farm system.
SPEAKER_01 (09:21):
It's like it's it's it's wild, like you know, I live
down here in Raleigh, right?
But like Durham Bulls, right?
That's a that's a Tampa Bay umfarm system.
You go down two hours, two and ahalf hours down the road, and
you got the Charlotte Knights,who is a Chicago White Sox,
yeah, multiple, you know, farmsystem of all places, all you
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know, all the way down here,right?
Like most of their their farmsystems is down here.
Uh, I don't know why they don'thave anything close, but it's
pretty cool, right?
To see things like that, and youyou get to see it's like, you
know what?
I used to know that player rightbefore they got into the big
leagues.
That's a cool thing that you cantell, for sure.
All right, now question numbertwo, my friend.
Alrighty, all right.
(10:02):
Give me give me some memories ofyour favorite sports.
Like, I mean, obviously, youjust told us about your your you
know being a caddy and all that,but give me some memories, you
know, you growing up or now as aas a sports fan.
SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
Um, okay, yeah.
So when the Yankees were doinguh well in the late 70s, there I
was still kind of like, allright, you have to be asleep by
nine or ten o'clock of schooltomorrow.
So Chris Chambles' famous homerun, I was I was sound asleep.
All the kids in school weretalking about it because they
got this.
So I I missed that.
It wasn't until the like thelater teams um when like Jim Lai
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Rich, you know, hit the comebackhome run and uh Bernie Williams
when he hit that home runagainst Boston extra inning
shot.
I actually was at that game in1999 playoff.
That was like my best in youknow infield uh action that I I
remember seeing.
It was you know that's cool.
Again, I had work the next day,so it's you know, eighth inning,
ninth inning.
Oh, okay, we're going to extrashere.
10 o'clock, you know, 10 inningcomes in.
(10:57):
All right, how many innings canwe stay?
It's a playoffs.
You kind of have to, right?
Like I mean, it's playoffs.
Let's get it.
We gotta get up early.
And Bernie comes up and boom,you know, just like game over,
let's go home.
Yeah, but we got it.
He did it here.
And I actually met him last yearand got and likewise got to tell
him that story.
SPEAKER_01 (11:13):
Uh he's Bernie Williams, man.
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
Sitting in a uh you know, local restaurant uh with
his wife.
I you know, I just finishedbreakfast.
He him and his wife said, I wasI usually you know wear a
college shirt, you know, like apolo or whatever.
This time I was wearing a Yankeepolo.
He sees he comes in, he's like,Hey, Yankee.
So I think before he orders orwhatever, I could go over and
tell him because there was asocial media question that went
around.
What's similar to this?
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What's the best memory youmember at the at the ballpark?
And it's like, oh, it's gotta beBernie Williams.
I posted that, and I'm like,Hey, I just you know use you as
a uh answer on a social mediaquestion.
So I I started, I led up to thequestion, and then you know, he
kind of bowed his head,thanking.
And his wife's like, All right,what did you do in 1999?
And he's like, Well, I I mighthave hit a walko-off home run,
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you know, like all humble andstuff.
So it was just a it was justsuch a cool, you know, fan
moment for me.
So that was that's cool.
SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
I yeah, it really was.
He's so personable that he getsyou get to stay there sit there
and talk to him about it, andhe's okay with this.
SPEAKER_00 (12:08):
Yeah, oh, for sure, for sure.
And I you know, and I kind ofleft you know quickly.
I didn't want to like his foodif his food was.
So that was a favorite for sure.
Um, I mean, there's there's alot, they all kind of blend.
An early one that I remember wasuh seeing um it was Kevin Moss
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and Jesse Barfield hittingback-to-back upper deck home run
shots, one to left field, one toright field.
And just you know, seeing upperdeck shots, you don't see that
every day.
It was really cool to see two ofthem back to back, and then to
find out that was the first timeit had ever happened uh at
Yankee Stadium, anyway.
That you know, you know, prettywild.
Um, when I was doing my stadiumchase and I went to a Marlins
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game, the leadoff hitter, and Iforgot who it was, uh shame on
me, but hit a home run on thefirst pitch of the game.
That was the only that was thefirst time it had happened, I
think, since 1963.
And the person it happened tothe Mets, and it was Pete Rose
who did it.
So it was like kind of it's areally wild, you know, random
thing.
(13:13):
Yeah.
So yeah, it was really cool whenyou saw it, and you're like,
wait, nobody else has got torun.
It was just that first pitchhome run, right?
That was you know, and it's it'sone-nothing, one-nothing, one
nothing.
And so those were those are somehighlights for me.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
And the that's pretty cool.
Yeah, uh you you you got somegood stories, my friend.
I gotta say, those are somepretty good ones.
Not a lot of people can sit hereand tell me, like, oh, yeah, I
met, you know, you know, MickeyMattle, you know, was his caddy,
and hanging out with BernieWilliams and stuff like that.
That's awesome.
I love that.
I love that.
All right, as you know, uh, Itold this to my wife and I tell
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this to my friends.
We're not superstitious, we'rejust a little stitched, right?
In a game of baseball fans, weall are like you know, so for
example, if I'm you know, if I'mif I know that you know my team
is losing and I'm wearing ajersey, I might go upstairs
quietly and change my jersey orchange my shirt or my head.
I may or may not have done that.
I may, may or may, you know, andby now a lot of people know this
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story.
The 2016 World Series, right,where the Cleveland Indians at
that point were playing theChicago Cubs, and then we were
scoring runs.
But as soon as my wife left thebathroom and came downstairs, we
were losing.
I'm like, I told her to go backupstairs and stay in the
bathroom.
No joke, she still tells thatstory to our rough friends till
this day.
Uh so with that being said, um,give me some for you, some of
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your traditional, some of yourrituals.
Do you have anything like that,you know, right now?
SPEAKER_00 (14:39):
Um when I go yeah, no, I mean, when I go to a
ballpark, I mean, one of thethings I have to do is do a walk
around.
And my favorites are the oneswhere you can do the complete
walk around on the inside if youcan go down a little bit left
field and right.
It's like, all right, that'snice.
You have a nice ballpark, but II want to see it from the out,
you know.
So that's always a thing.
Um, finding the local, you know,uh the local craft beer and also
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the the you know, whatever theirfood uh choices.
Um, you know, Valerie, we alllove Valerie, and she has her
food thing, but you know, Iremember it was like 2012, um,
Yankees in Minnesota and theYankee beat reporters in the
stands.
The Minnesota twins had justcome out with this new um pork
on a stick thing for people totry.
And she's standing there holdingher you know pork on a stick,
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and a drunk Yankee fan walks upto her side and like just
chomped it or took the rightpork.
And you know, she's standingthere, and you know, you get to
see it like she's getting reallyupset.
But that happened to be the yearI was going there, so I was
like, all right, I gotta trythis pork on a stick thing.
And ever since I kind of waslike, Yeah, all right, whenever
I go to see it, I'm gonna try tofind out what their you know
favorite uh or you know, mostpopular food item is.
(15:42):
So you know, some people want tojust get a hot dog.
I want to find out what the youknow, what the local is.
Yeah, the local food is thelocal beer and and the local uh
local food item.
And then later in the game, I dowant to get an i don't care how
cold it's I want to get an icecream comb.
SPEAKER_01 (15:57):
You gotta get ice cream out of all park, right?
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Not in a helmet, though.
I want a cone.
No dipping dot crap.
You know, I want the actual icecream.
SPEAKER_01 (16:04):
You want the actual cone.
Okay, all right.
I like it.
I dig it.
Yeah, I like that.
And by the way, uh, reallyquick, uh, the pressure you just
said about Valerie, that isStadium Food Girl.
You guys should follow her onInstagram, should follow her on
uh she has her YouTube channeland on TikTok.
She does some great things whenit comes to food items in minor
league baseball.
So uh I'm sorry I cut you off.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
No, no, no, no, but but yeah, I just assume we all
know we all know, but yes, butanybody didn't know.
SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
And uh, so any other any besides okay, I like that
the 360.
A lot of people do that, butlike you know, they they want us
like no no no no.
I have to go and I gotta go takea look, you know, go around and
do my circle around theballpark, which I do the same
thing.
It's like I gotta make sure thatI that I look around and you
know, scope around what the fooditems are and things like that.
Uh, but no one has really saidthat about the ice cream, and I
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I I gotta say, I I like that.
Yeah, you don't want the icecream helmet, you want the soft
server, whatever, but it has tobe in a cone.
SPEAKER_00 (17:01):
I appreciate all the people collecting the helmets
and stuff.
I think some of them lookfantastic, and but yeah, it's
just not something I want to youknow carry with me.
You know, I go into a stadiumempty-handed and you know, kind
of walk out, other than likemaybe I have something, um you
know kind of the same way I camein.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
Yeah, I like that.
No, no, you're right.
Absolutely.
Not uh you know what I did stopcollecting so many things
because I have so much stuff inmy house.
My wife is getting mad at me, soI was like, uh, let's I you're
right, honey.
I I should stop.
So I've slowed down on the youknow, now when I go to the
ballpark, it's if I haven't beenif I don't have a hat, I'll get
a hat.
Uh or I will get a pin now.
(17:41):
That's the only thing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
I got a pen thing right up here.
SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
Oh wow, look at that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
You heard but so few of them are baseball because I
they're mostly national parksand ski things and so forth.
I've had such lousy luck, youknow, finding pins.
But yeah, it's hard to do that.
Maybe restart that and try andstart collecting them again.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:01):
But you're right, though, not a lot of places have
the uh the the pins nowadays,which is a little disappointing,
right?
Yeah, yeah, because you want tosee that.
So all right.
Let me ask you this.
And in I I the this last twoquestions, by the way, are the
the most that people are youknow get a little uh deep in,
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right?
And I and I did that for areason, right?
But in your opinion, you know,how has baseball really uh
shaped or or changed your life?
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
Uh it has to be the travel.
Um I you know, I started outgoing to some of the uh local
ballparks.
I mean, uh Yankees and Mets, ofcourse.
Um, I was grew up in Queen, so Iwent to Shea Stadium a lot
because it was only like two orthree train stops away.
The whole thing with going ongame was like, could I get off
the train before they collectedmy ticket so I could use a
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ticket for another time?
Right.
You know, like it you didn'tneed to really plan anything.
It's like, hey, let's go, youknow, and again, you know, it
could be Yankee fans, but wewould all go, we would have a
couple drinks, a couple beers,have fun.
Um, so that was always great.
It was a good bonding thing withfriends, but just starting to
travel around the country alittle bit more.
Um, my first road trip wasactually for football.
My first stadium trip was to theold Cleveland Brown Stadium.
SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
No way.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Yes, on my but I was on my way to see the Giants play
Indianapolis, and it's a longtrip.
So I'm like, oh wait, likeCleveland's on the kind of on
the way.
I can pick that up on the waythere.
So yeah, yes, the uh Browns getthe credit as my first um that's
awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
Yeah, and I'm sorry at the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, I won't tell you the who they played and
what the score was, but becauseit's not gonna happen, no, I
don't want to know.
But that was such an awesometrip, and I also saw um like the
Ohio caverns, I forgot whereexactly in Ohio there was.
It was just again a little deepplace to stop and see something
that I had never seen before.
And then I also went to the Hallof Fame, um, you know, the
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Canton.
Oh, the Canton Hall of Fame,yeah.
So I got to do like all thosethings.
I'm like, man, look at that.
Four different things.
I really wanted to do one thing.
I wanted to see the Giants playin Indianapolis, but I had a
good made a good road trip outof it.
And then like the next year, I'mlike, all right, that worked
well.
I like I said, I knocked off umBoston and Baltimore, but I did
a road trip through the Midwestand seeing ballparks and uh
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football stadiums.
And again, same thing, justseeing more and more of the
country, seeing different citiesthat I like Cincinnati.
Why would I, you know, like notthere's really nothing else that
would take me.
I love Cincinnati now, butbecause of a baseball game, I
ended up saying, all right, thisis a cool place to go.
And yeah, anytime I get anexcuse to go, I you know, I do
it now.
And you know, so you get yourall your major league teams that
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gives you what 25.
Yeah, some there's a multiplecities, but yeah, you know, 28
cities, I guess, um, that letyou, you know, that you maybe
never would have seen before,but baseball got me to them.
And then you know where I'mgoing with this minor league
baseball, all of a sudden it'slike all those other little
cities you mentioned, Durham andCharlotte.
I mean, I can't, I mean, yeah, Icharlotte went to a football
game, but there's just so manysmaller cities all over the
(21:04):
country that I got to visit umbecause of baseball.
And then all the people thatI've gotten to meet, all the
different people I've gone togames with as a result of you
know, so social media quests, umor social just you know,
interest in self.
Yeah, oh, you're gonna be intown, but you let me know when
you go, and we'll go, you know,we'll go to the game together.
I mean, it to that to me is howI think it's changed me the
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most.
It just gave me a greaterappreciation for things and just
an opportunity to see things Imight never um would have tried.
Am I trying to get to everyminorly ballpark?
Not exactly, but if it worksout, great.
But you know, I won't say thatI'm I love going to Durham and
Charlotte last year, but I alsolove the three national park
sites that you have over therewith the uh cow pens and the
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Kings Mountain.
I mean, just really kind of coolto walk around, and together
they to me make a great roadtrip.
So um, to me, that's that's whatit's done for you.
So let me see a lot more of thecountry than um I might have
otherwise.
Just you know, beautiful way tostitch together a few hours in a
car every day and just seesomething you know, a little
new, a little exciting.
(22:09):
Maybe not exciting to everybody,but but for me, you know, it
absolutely is.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
Oh no, national parks are cool.
I love I love hiking, you know.
I actually just did uh five-milehike the other day on Friday, so
I felt great just to get out.
And I'm one of those that Idon't put headphones on when I
go hiking.
Yep, I like to just take innature, right?
And then and I've oh so good, sogood for the soul.
SPEAKER_00 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah.
So that that same road trip, Iactually ended up, it was like a
Tuesday, and I hit my next thingwasn't the price.
I'm like, all right, what am Igonna do in Kansas City for the
next few days?
I'm like, oh, screw this, I'mgonna go out to see Mount
Rushmore.
You know, oh no 500 miles, andI'm like, Yeah, I can do that in
a day.
And so on the way back, I saw umBadlands National Park.
And again, I'm like, I didn'tknow what a national park really
(22:54):
was.
I heard of Yosemite andYellowstone and stuff, but
Badlands, it was just an exitoff the interstate.
So I'm like, all right, it won'ttake me out of the way.
And I'll go like this is reallycool.
I you know, I really enjoyed it.
And so I alternated years ofgoing to national parks and
ballparks.
Um that year after I went to, Iwas like, I got to see more
national parks, and I went outto Yellowstone.
Uh I'm sorry, yes, Yosemite andthe Redwood Forest and those
(23:17):
trees out in California.
And I'm like, all right, well,San Francisco is home this
weekend and Oakland's home thenext.
So, all right, in the week inbetween, I'm gonna see you know
these national parks.
I'm like, yeah, this is likelife-changing stuff in some
cases.
SPEAKER_01 (23:31):
That's amazing, Tom.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
Yeah, so that I mean it's worked out for me a lot.
Like I said, some years it'smore national parks, some years
it's more ballparks, and evenfootball stadiums, also.
They you know blended intothings, but yeah, it's just you
know, finding a few things inthe same area and then just you
know getting the schedule towork out and just you know doing
what you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
So that's cool, you know.
And I and I think that a lot ofpeople really should realize
that, like, okay, you're gonnago on a trip on a sports trip.
Awesome, I love it.
Good for you, but make sure thatyou are also taking in into what
you have around you, right?
Whether there's a museum, anational park, or whatever it
is, because you that's why youknow that's that's what defines
(24:13):
that area in which you're at,right?
So, why not take into all ofthat?
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Yeah, I mean, you can make a trip to Cleveland and
go to you know Cuyahoga NationalPark during the day, right?
Correct, spend three or four,four or five hours in there, and
then go to the baseball gamedoesn't start till seven
o'clock.
So, you know, what are you gonnacorrect?
It's a great place to spend afew hours in between.
SPEAKER_01 (24:32):
You get to do a lot of cool things, like the West
Side Market that's there inCleveland by the ballpark,
right?
Great ballpark, great area to goand look at their food.
Oh, it's so good their food.
Um, there's this one stand theysell these uh sausages there
with sauerkraut and ballparkmustard.
Oh, have mercy.
Now I'm hungry.
It's you know, it's almost nineo'clock at night.
(24:52):
We're all talking, and we arewe're talking about food here.
Exactly.
But that but that's what I mean,though, right?
Like, I mean, you get to chasethat, you get to experience all
of those in Calya Hoga NationalNational Park, or go driving
about 45 minutes down the roadand get yourself to uh the uh
the NFL Hall of Fame, right?
Which is right there in Canton.
And you got like a bunch oflittle minor league ballparks
(25:15):
because then Akron has one.
The Akron um the rubber ducks,you got the Lake County
Captivist, which is not too far.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
Still need that one.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (25:23):
Did you get to go while you were in Cleveland?
You may not have, but um, didyou get to go to where the
Cleveland um the the Buckeyesplayed at?
The the Negro Leagues uh teamthat were there.
No, I did not.
SPEAKER_00 (25:37):
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
So whenever you get back, and they they have spent
some money there to you know torevamp that like you all all
there is like the ticket boothand one of the walls and some of
the stands, right?
That's still left, but it isstill there, cool right there in
Cleveland.
So I highly suggest foreverybody to when you guys go,
definitely go take a look atthat.
So nice.
All right, so obviously we'reboth baseball fans and we're
(26:00):
football fans, but you know, anduh and you grew up a baseball
fan.
But let me ask you this whybaseball?
Like that's your that's yourfifth question right there.
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
So why that's why baseball thing I had a question
with that why baseball?
I think it's just because youyou can get as close to it or
you know, you know, just stayaway from it a little bit.
You know, this the baseball's along season, right?
I mean, I always tell people I'mnot like I'm not worried about
you know how my team does inApril, and I don't get too
excited if they get off to afair start.
(26:30):
But agree.
You know, if you think of thingsfrom like April to October,
yeah, that's a long season.
If you start thinking aboutthings like spring training and
the Arizona Fall League and theDecember meetings, it's like you
have most of the year covered.
So yeah, do you have to spendevery hour thinking about it?
No, but if there's you cancertainly, you know, read about
it.
I'm in I'm a Sabre member, youknow, so I I I put I participate
(26:52):
in that too.
Not not a I'm not I I like thehistory and stuff.
I'm not really super big on theon the numbers.
My brother-in-law is, and he'sgreat with it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
I'm with you there.
I'm I'm on the history part,yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
So I mean, I I I can read about that, I get books
from them, and you know, so I Iit just it's a great way, you
know, it's a pastime, it helpsyou pass the time.
And I I I mean, I love it.
I mean, football can be veryintentional.
While the hockey when theplayoffs come, there's nothing
like playoff hockey or being ata hockey game.
Um, I'm a I'm a fair weather uhKnicks fan.
(27:26):
When the Knicks are doing greatand they've been doing well the
last few years, I keep up withthem.
But baseball is just it's alwaysaround you, you know.
There's there's always peoplethat want to talk about
baseball, there's always peoplethat um, you know, talking about
doing something for baseball,you know, when the schedule
comes out, you know, it's likethe major league schedule is out
already.
So a lot of the minor leagueswant, I'm already you know,
planning travel for next year,so it just you know kind of lets
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you just you know stretch yourmind a little bit and yeah, and
drink daily.
SPEAKER_01 (27:52):
Like I've never been here, all right.
So yeah, I want to hit this.
SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
I work at that desk and I have that map behind me,
and I'm like, all right, Ihaven't been to that part of the
country in five years or tenyears.
Let what ballparks are overthere that I haven't been to or
haven't been to, and that youknow, that's how my my brain
works, you know, it gets me introuble sometimes, but um, yeah,
no, it just it's just awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
I mean that's no, that that's that's amazing.
That's what it is, yeah, youknow, because we're all the
same, right?
Like we all get excited when theschedule comes out, you know.
We all get and then obviously,uh, you know, Hurricanes fans
here, right?
So we're watching some hockey.
You are 100% right.
Going to a hockey game, it is anexperience that people should.
(28:35):
That is one of the coolestthings that people should do.
It's so much fun.
Yeah, yep.
Oh my god, the the hits are realthere, right?
You know, like you see it on theTV, but the hits are like when
you see it in person, the fightsand the goal when they scored a
goal and the and the alarm goesoff.
Oh, so it's such a coolexperience, 100%.
I agree with you there.
(28:57):
Um, but yeah, I love baseball.
Like baseball will always be, asyou can see behind me, I got a
bunch of baseball stuff, right?
But baseball will always be myfirst love.
Don't get me wrong, I love mesome football.
You know, I wish my browns werebetter, but you know, here I am.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
But uh, yeah, and I gotta say, like I mentioned, I I
don't do the football how much,but the hat thing, like you
know, you a few of you guys havegotten me you know rethinking
that a little bit.
Like I don't get a hat for everyteam I visit, but I do kind of
want a hat or something fromevery trip.
So if I go to see two or threeballparks, I might say, All
right, what's the one hat that Iwant, or one which one I want
(29:34):
more than the other?
So, but yeah, I am up to likeyou know 50 hats all of a
sudden.
SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
So it's a it gets the it get it it sneaks up on
you, don't it?
SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
It really does.
It it does.
SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
That's amazing, Todd.
Thank you so much for that.
I you know, I got to know you alittle bit more.
See, now you're part of that onepercent of the Yankee fans that
I don't that I don't dislike.
SPEAKER_00 (29:52):
Yeah, they exactly, right?
Yeah, we're not all bad.
Some of us are cocky, we like torest on our laurels a little bit
and we do that soon, but
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Um yeah, you know what?
It's okay.
And it's okay.
Enjoy it, right?
Like, I mean, good for you guysthat you get to uh you get to
have listen at the end of theday.
A lot of people are jealous atthe fact that, like, you know,
that the Yankees are who theYankees are because either
there's there's no sometimes noin-between with the Yankees,
right?
It's either you like them or youlove them.
It's just how it goes, you know.
And if you're a fan of anotherteam, you probably don't like
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them.
SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
Yep, for sure.
And you know, Toronto's won, soyou know, it's all right.
Yeah, they they they haven't wonin what 30, 25 years, 30 years.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Long time, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:31):
But Milwaukee, I I would love to see them win.
Seattle, like I said, I think wesaid this before, Seattle also.
I would, yeah, I think that'skind of what I'm rooting for if
the Yankees don't you know don'thave a miracle comeback.
Just some you know, somebodynew.
SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
You know, we don't need the Dodgers, but you know,
just uh just get somebody inthere, somebody new in there,
right?
That'll be cool to see.
Absolutely get to enjoy thatbecause not a lot of people get
to enjoy that.
I I mean I'm blessed enough toso that to have seen at least
the very least see my my myguardians or my Indians at that
(31:03):
point, you know, make it to theWorld Series when a lot of
people never never experiencedthat.
Seattle fans have neverexperienced that.
Sure.
I wish we would have won.
But you know, it is what it is.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
So uh Tom, thank you so much.
Where can people find you on onsocial media, my friend?
SPEAKER_00 (31:18):
Yeah, um, I it's mostly Instagram these days.
I haven't, you know, like um andblue sky.
Um yeah, so Instagram it's uhTomT Take2.
You know, it's good it's mysecond Instagram account, and
Blue Sky, it's simply uh TThresh, first initial and last
name, T T H R A S H.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
I love it, I love it.
And I'll make sure to put allthe information uh on the notes
so that way you guys make sureto follow Tom.
We do follow each other onInstagram and on uh blue sky as
well.
And threads, yeah.
Yep, and threads.
I gotta do a better job with uhwith with Blue Sky.
I've been concentrating.
You gotta, you know, there's toomany of them.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
Two of them are just like one, one I'll never know
like why something did well onone and not on another.
SPEAKER_01 (31:58):
It's it's insanity, right?
Like you just don't know whetherwhich one will blow up.
SPEAKER_00 (32:03):
And the ones that blow up, it's like that wasn't
even one of my best posts.
SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
Right.
It's so frustrating.
So it's so frustrating, Tom.
I I get it, man.
Uh and make guys before we uh weget off here, make sure you guys
are following me on all thesocials.
I am on Instagram, Twitter, anduh, you know, threads as well,
uh, TikTok, and then obviouslythe YouTube channel.
Make sure you guys are followingthat.
Uh, because uh we do put somelive shows every Tuesday and
(32:29):
Thursdays at 8 p.m.
uh eastern time.
Uh so the uh the dadhatChronicle Sports Show, as well
as on Mondays.
Now we are releasing a new show.
Um, well, actually, one in themorning says Carolina Specific.
Uh, more to come on that.
Uh, we'll be you know, a goodfriend of mine and I will be
talking about Carolina Sports,North Carolina, South Carolina.
But at night, at 8:30, we dohave uh where we talk about the
(32:55):
not the non-major sports, right?
The sports that not a lot ofpeople talk about, you know,
here in the U.S.
So we do talk about some somesoccer, right?
Uh Bundesliga, we talk about uhFormula One, we talk about FCS
football, right?
FCS deserves some love, man.
There's some cool FCS uh teamsout there.
So make sure you guys arefollowing that.
It's all on YouTube.
(33:16):
Uh, and if you are interested incoming on five questions, please
send me a message.
I'll be more than happy to getyou on because obviously that's
how we got Tom here on the onthe podcast.
Again, Tom, thank you so much,my friend.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
And thank you.
Uh really nice talking to you.
Finally get to you know talkface to face.
SPEAKER_01 (33:33):
I know, right?
Face to face.
And uh, we will see you guys onthe next one.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
Cheers, bud.
I was, you know, I'm I was a scorny little
15-year-old kid and at the ninthhole he wanted to buy me a beer.
You know, just on the no no no,he's not a great, you can't do
that.
You can't do everything you everheard about him, that's just the
way he was.
So Okay, let's go.
SPEAKER_01 (00:22):
All right, all right, and welcome everybody to
another episode of the DinaheadChronicles Podcast.
My name is Ed, also known as theDeadhead.
We got five questions today foryou guys.
And today I have a good friend,one who follows the baseball
world.
As you guys already know, it's avery small world, you know,
minor league baseball and uhmajor league baseball.
I have Tom.
Tom, thank you so much forjoining us in Five Questions.
(00:44):
How are you doing today, myfriend?
SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
Oh, I'm doing well.
Thanks.
Thanks so much for having me on.
I mean, I've been listening tothis podcast for a while, and I
love the uh answers I've heardso far.
And um, you're gonna find someof my answers sound a little
familiar because you know, forone, I'm a Yankee fan, and uh I
know you already have one Yankeefan on there, and everything
Donnie said was a we oh I don'tI don't remember that guy.
You don't remember that?
Okay, yeah, no, maybe I wasdreaming about it or something.
(01:08):
But yeah, no, but um yeah, I'm alifelong uh baseball Yankee fan,
especially, but a baseball fan.
Um and I'm a Yankee fan, so letme let me just start with that.
And for a large part of my lifefrom like 1980 to uh the early
1990s, you might know theYankees weren't really a top
team.
So that got me, you know, therereally wasn't a lot to cheer for
(01:31):
in those days.
Don Matterley, of course, andsome of the other hitters that
they had, but um watching Yankeegames though, you did get to see
a lot of the other ballparks onTV, and you know, like seeing
Fenway, seeing that greenmonster, seeing those uh the the
reporting uh areas up on top,those big the big rooms they had
on top.
It was just like it was such acool looking stadium, yeah.
(01:52):
Uh Wrigley Field, of course.
You know, as you're watchingother baseball games, you see
always wanted to see that.
And um Tiger Stadium, the oldTiger Stadium with that
overhang, and just you know, thestories about how high you would
have to hit the ball for it toyou know actually land on the
field, but not be a ball, youknow.
There was always the argumentsof how that overhang affected
home runs and stuff.
But I just had to see that oncebefore a close.
(02:14):
So we'll you know we'll get intothat, I hope.
But yeah, just loved just lovedthe the differences in the
ballparks and was eager to checkthem out once I got into road
trip.
SPEAKER_01 (02:21):
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's the whole beautyabout baseball, right?
Because every dimension, everyballpark is different, their
heads are on dimensions andeverything.
And that's the beauty aboutthem.
So, all right.
So uh, you know what?
Actually, let's just jump rightin.
Uh uh, Tom.
You know, I want to want to getto know a little bit, you know,
want to get to know about you,right?
The fan.
Like, you know, the you're grew,you grew up a Yankee fan.
(02:43):
So uh when did you when did youfall in love with the with the
game of baseball?
Like what was that?
Did you have that moment, thatpivotal moment, or is it like
it's just a combination ofmoments?
What was that for you?
SPEAKER_00 (02:54):
It it's mostly a lot of mid-70s stuff.
Um, a lot of it came from mymom.
Uh, my mom was a Yankee fan.
She grew up in Manhattan andalways talked about how she, as
a little girl, could travel byherself up to Yankee Stadium,
um, you know, see Joe DiMaggio,Yogi Bearer, and all these other
players.
And that got me captivated rightaway.
And then in the early 70s, theYankees, you know, started
(03:16):
winning some games in WorldSeries and stuff.
So I got into it.
But what really got me werebaseball cards, that first
Christmas or Holy Communion,whatever, where I got that's you
know, like a six, you know, boxof baseball cards, and just
going through them.
Uh, loved the pictures on themand loved especially flipping
them over and seeing those oldschool, you know, batting
(03:37):
averages and seeing, oh, thisguy was playing in the 1950s.
You know, you'd occasionally getan old card from like say Frank
Robinson or somebody in there,and Hank Garon, I had a couple
of them.
Yeah, 1974 was my first set, sohe had just broken the record,
and you know, um, there were awhole bunch of cards given out
for him, and you know, I hadlike three or four of them.
I eventually got collected allof those.
So baseball cards, especially,and the other thing were box
(03:59):
scores, the newspaper boxscores.
Um, you know, open thenewspaper, and you know, after
it got passed around the family,I wanted to see, you know, how
the team did, how each player upand down the lineup did, how the
opposing players did, how thepitches went.
Um, I just love that wholeaspect of it.
And when the Yankees would go onthe road, and then you know,
maybe if it was in the Midwestand it was uh you know an hour
(04:20):
late start, it might make thenext day's newspaper, or you'd
have to wait for the next day.
But when it went out to the WestCoast and you know, you had to
wait an extra full day, and wedidn't have ESPN or you know,
sports apps or anything.
We had to wait kind of you knowfor uh box sports to see the
details of the game, and youknow, it was just all that.
I I loved that whole aspect ofit.
And if I could just mention onemore thing that helped me, yeah,
(04:41):
go for it, absolutely.
Um, so yeah, so 1970, late1970s, Yankees were doing well,
of course.
1980, I got my first real job,um, and that was as a caddy on a
uh for a country club on LongIsland where a lot of famous uh
people played, uh, got chanceslike so.
I got met I met Sean Connerythere, uh Jim McKay, but I also
(05:02):
met a bunch of the the New YorkIslanders during their Stanley
Club Ranger fan, but I met a lotof the Islander players and I
met some of the great Yankees,Whitey Ford, uh Mickey Manle.
I caddy for him, and Tommy Johnwas the other one that I wait
you caddy for Mickey Manno, yes,sir.
If you if you scroll back on myInstagram, you will see a uh
scorecard that I had.
SPEAKER_01 (05:23):
Um that's insanity.
SPEAKER_00 (05:25):
Yes, it was.
I was you know, I'm I was ascorny little 15-year-old kid,
and at the ninth hole he wantedto buy me a beer, you know, just
I'm like, No, no, no, don't he'sunderraid.
You can't do that, you can't doeverything you ever heard about
him, that's just the way he was.
So, yeah, I mean I I was in lovethat whole time that so I yeah,
I mean Yankees gave me thatgreat history, and I was just
you know in love with it rightfrom uh that that whole time,
(05:48):
and then every year it was like,All right, we'll come back next
year, we'll come back next year,but right they said they didn't.
SPEAKER_01 (05:53):
No, no, like yeah, they they just like all of a
sudden they just kept going toother things.
But that's cool though, like youactually get to have a piece of
memorabilia that you know,honestly, not a lot of us will
ever come close to, right?
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
Like, I mean, you you got too caddy for Mickey
Manual, yes, and I got thescorecard that uh Bob Hope and
uh Whitey Ford signed together.
Mickey Manel.
Oh my god, Mickey Mann went tosign it and he was eating a hot
dog, and he actually like kindof it kind of slipped and
mustard splattered all over thecard, so he wiped it off.
Um, and he you know, I told himthat the card was for my mother,
(06:26):
and he's like, Well, just tellyour mom this is Mickey Mantle's
mustard, and then he just kindof laughed.
And I still have it.
And if you look at the picture,you could actually see if you
you can probably I won't wasteyour time with it, but you could
actually see the little mustardstain this summer.
I went on a road trip, I went toTulsa, and they have a Mickey
Mantle day every year, and hissons were there.
Sons gotta be in their you know,mid mid to late 70s, I guess.
(06:48):
And I got to tell them thestory, show them the picture and
stuff, and it was just like kindof a nice moment, and yeah, we
know he played out, but yeah, itwas just kind of nice little
connection I had.
So both that full circle, youknow.
SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
Tom, you're making it very hard for me to hate a
lot of Yankee fans, right?
Because I'm a Clevelander,right?
As you already know, is a is arival.
But like I I tell this toDonnie, you know, who's a mutual
friend of ours, right?
You know, Donnie, who's on ouron a uh That has Chronicle
Sports Show every Tuesday,Thursdays at 8 p.m.
And uh make sure you guys uhcatch it on uh on YouTube and
all that.
But what the whole point is isthe more and more I keep doing
(07:21):
these podcasts, and the more andmore I get to meet other people
across the the US when it comesto baseball, it becomes
extremely hard for you to hateor dislike fans of other of
other teams, right?
Because for the longest time Idid not like the tigers.
I have a friend of mine who's atigers fan, right?
(07:41):
And it's like we're all justfans.
Yeah, at the end of the day, wejust bury fanatics.
SPEAKER_00 (07:47):
You could just enjoy the game so much more once you
cross that line.
SPEAKER_01 (07:50):
Oh my god, so much better.
I can sit down and watch.
Like, I'm literally, you know,right now at the time of this
recording, the the DetroitTigers and the Seattle Mariners
are playing, right?
So I come in, I got it on theside, and I'm like, I have no
animosity towards it.
I was like, I'm not gonna sayit's like, oh, I don't want to
watch it.
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it becauseit's you know, like Derek School
is one of the best bitches outthere right now.
(08:11):
Yeah, I mean, this dude islegit, right?
So you want to see how he does.
SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
And yeah, and and the minor leagues also
contribute a lot to that.
I'm in the Hudson Valley for thelongest time.
The Hudson Valley's uh renegadeswere a Tampa Bay Ray affiliate,
right?
So here I am 15 minutes from theballpark, and the Rays, you
know, farm team is coming in,you know, coming through there.
And what are you gonna do?
You're gonna boo them, you know.
When no, yeah, you have to cheerfor them.
(08:39):
But now what happens when theStaten Island Yankees play them?
Who do you so you're just kindof clapping for everybody,
cheering for you?
SPEAKER_01 (08:44):
Don't it that's the beauty about minor league
baseball, right?
That you're able to cheer forthat player or that team because
they're uh they're in the minorleagues, you know, like they're
like for example, the HudsonValley Randegates, right?
Granted, yes, they are a a uh aYankee farm system now, but like
you said before, they weren't.
Yeah, it's it's a wild world,right?
(09:06):
Like minor league baseball.
Oh my god, people need to getinto minor league baseball.
It's the greatest thing in theworld.
SPEAKER_00 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean, I'm you know, Mets going, I mean,
Syracuse going from the uhWashington to the to the Mets.
I mean, again, rivalry is like,hey, hey, uh New York Mets,
here's our entire farm system.
SPEAKER_01 (09:21):
It's like it's it's it's wild, like you know, I live
down here in Raleigh, right?
But like Durham Bulls, right?
That's a that's a Tampa Bay umfarm system.
You go down two hours, two and ahalf hours down the road, and
you got the Charlotte Knights,who is a Chicago White Sox,
yeah, multiple, you know, farmsystem of all places, all you
(09:42):
know, all the way down here,right?
Like most of their their farmsystems is down here.
Uh, I don't know why they don'thave anything close, but it's
pretty cool, right?
To see things like that, and youyou get to see it's like, you
know what?
I used to know that player rightbefore they got into the big
leagues.
That's a cool thing that you cantell, for sure.
All right, now question numbertwo, my friend.
Alrighty, all right.
(10:02):
Give me give me some memories ofyour favorite sports.
Like, I mean, obviously, youjust told us about your your you
know being a caddy and all that,but give me some memories, you
know, you growing up or now as aas a sports fan.
SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
Um, okay, yeah.
So when the Yankees were doinguh well in the late 70s, there I
was still kind of like, allright, you have to be asleep by
nine or ten o'clock of schooltomorrow.
So Chris Chambles' famous homerun, I was I was sound asleep.
All the kids in school weretalking about it because they
got this.
So I I missed that.
It wasn't until the like thelater teams um when like Jim Lai
(10:36):
Rich, you know, hit the comebackhome run and uh Bernie Williams
when he hit that home runagainst Boston extra inning
shot.
I actually was at that game in1999 playoff.
That was like my best in youknow infield uh action that I I
remember seeing.
It was you know that's cool.
Again, I had work the next day,so it's you know, eighth inning,
ninth inning.
Oh, okay, we're going to extrashere.
10 o'clock, you know, 10 inningcomes in.
(10:57):
All right, how many innings canwe stay?
It's a playoffs.
You kind of have to, right?
Like I mean, it's playoffs.
Let's get it.
We gotta get up early.
And Bernie comes up and boom,you know, just like game over,
let's go home.
Yeah, but we got it.
He did it here.
And I actually met him last yearand got and likewise got to tell
him that story.
SPEAKER_01 (11:13):
Uh he's Bernie Williams, man.
SPEAKER_00 (11:15):
Sitting in a uh you know, local restaurant uh with
his wife.
I you know, I just finishedbreakfast.
He him and his wife said, I wasI usually you know wear a
college shirt, you know, like apolo or whatever.
This time I was wearing a Yankeepolo.
He sees he comes in, he's like,Hey, Yankee.
So I think before he orders orwhatever, I could go over and
tell him because there was asocial media question that went
around.
What's similar to this?
(11:36):
What's the best memory youmember at the at the ballpark?
And it's like, oh, it's gotta beBernie Williams.
I posted that, and I'm like,Hey, I just you know use you as
a uh answer on a social mediaquestion.
So I I started, I led up to thequestion, and then you know, he
kind of bowed his head,thanking.
And his wife's like, All right,what did you do in 1999?
And he's like, Well, I I mighthave hit a walko-off home run,
(11:56):
you know, like all humble andstuff.
So it was just a it was justsuch a cool, you know, fan
moment for me.
So that was that's cool.
SPEAKER_01 (12:02):
I yeah, it really was.
He's so personable that he getsyou get to stay there sit there
and talk to him about it, andhe's okay with this.
SPEAKER_00 (12:08):
Yeah, oh, for sure, for sure.
And I you know, and I kind ofleft you know quickly.
I didn't want to like his foodif his food was.
So that was a favorite for sure.
Um, I mean, there's there's alot, they all kind of blend.
An early one that I remember wasuh seeing um it was Kevin Moss
(12:28):
and Jesse Barfield hittingback-to-back upper deck home run
shots, one to left field, one toright field.
And just you know, seeing upperdeck shots, you don't see that
every day.
It was really cool to see two ofthem back to back, and then to
find out that was the first timeit had ever happened uh at
Yankee Stadium, anyway.
That you know, you know, prettywild.
Um, when I was doing my stadiumchase and I went to a Marlins
(12:52):
game, the leadoff hitter, and Iforgot who it was, uh shame on
me, but hit a home run on thefirst pitch of the game.
That was the only that was thefirst time it had happened, I
think, since 1963.
And the person it happened tothe Mets, and it was Pete Rose
who did it.
So it was like kind of it's areally wild, you know, random
thing.
(13:13):
Yeah.
So yeah, it was really cool whenyou saw it, and you're like,
wait, nobody else has got torun.
It was just that first pitchhome run, right?
That was you know, and it's it'sone-nothing, one-nothing, one
nothing.
And so those were those are somehighlights for me.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
And the that's pretty cool.
Yeah, uh you you you got somegood stories, my friend.
I gotta say, those are somepretty good ones.
Not a lot of people can sit hereand tell me, like, oh, yeah, I
met, you know, you know, MickeyMattle, you know, was his caddy,
and hanging out with BernieWilliams and stuff like that.
That's awesome.
I love that.
I love that.
All right, as you know, uh, Itold this to my wife and I tell
(13:48):
this to my friends.
We're not superstitious, we'rejust a little stitched, right?
In a game of baseball fans, weall are like you know, so for
example, if I'm you know, if I'mif I know that you know my team
is losing and I'm wearing ajersey, I might go upstairs
quietly and change my jersey orchange my shirt or my head.
I may or may not have done that.
I may, may or may, you know, andby now a lot of people know this
(14:08):
story.
The 2016 World Series, right,where the Cleveland Indians at
that point were playing theChicago Cubs, and then we were
scoring runs.
But as soon as my wife left thebathroom and came downstairs, we
were losing.
I'm like, I told her to go backupstairs and stay in the
bathroom.
No joke, she still tells thatstory to our rough friends till
this day.
Uh so with that being said, um,give me some for you, some of
(14:33):
your traditional, some of yourrituals.
Do you have anything like that,you know, right now?
SPEAKER_00 (14:39):
Um when I go yeah, no, I mean, when I go to a
ballpark, I mean, one of thethings I have to do is do a walk
around.
And my favorites are the oneswhere you can do the complete
walk around on the inside if youcan go down a little bit left
field and right.
It's like, all right, that'snice.
You have a nice ballpark, but II want to see it from the out,
you know.
So that's always a thing.
Um, finding the local, you know,uh the local craft beer and also
(15:00):
the the you know, whatever theirfood uh choices.
Um, you know, Valerie, we alllove Valerie, and she has her
food thing, but you know, Iremember it was like 2012, um,
Yankees in Minnesota and theYankee beat reporters in the
stands.
The Minnesota twins had justcome out with this new um pork
on a stick thing for people totry.
And she's standing there holdingher you know pork on a stick,
(15:21):
and a drunk Yankee fan walks upto her side and like just
chomped it or took the rightpork.
And you know, she's standingthere, and you know, you get to
see it like she's getting reallyupset.
But that happened to be the yearI was going there, so I was
like, all right, I gotta trythis pork on a stick thing.
And ever since I kind of waslike, Yeah, all right, whenever
I go to see it, I'm gonna try tofind out what their you know
favorite uh or you know, mostpopular food item is.
(15:42):
So you know, some people want tojust get a hot dog.
I want to find out what the youknow, what the local is.
Yeah, the local food is thelocal beer and and the local uh
local food item.
And then later in the game, I dowant to get an i don't care how
cold it's I want to get an icecream comb.
SPEAKER_01 (15:57):
You gotta get ice cream out of all park, right?
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
Not in a helmet, though.
I want a cone.
No dipping dot crap.
You know, I want the actual icecream.
SPEAKER_01 (16:04):
You want the actual cone.
Okay, all right.
I like it.
I dig it.
Yeah, I like that.
And by the way, uh, reallyquick, uh, the pressure you just
said about Valerie, that isStadium Food Girl.
You guys should follow her onInstagram, should follow her on
uh she has her YouTube channeland on TikTok.
She does some great things whenit comes to food items in minor
league baseball.
So uh I'm sorry I cut you off.
SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
No, no, no, no, but but yeah, I just assume we all
know we all know, but yes, butanybody didn't know.
SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
And uh, so any other any besides okay, I like that
the 360.
A lot of people do that, butlike you know, they they want us
like no no no no.
I have to go and I gotta go takea look, you know, go around and
do my circle around theballpark, which I do the same
thing.
It's like I gotta make sure thatI that I look around and you
know, scope around what the fooditems are and things like that.
Uh, but no one has really saidthat about the ice cream, and I
(16:52):
I I gotta say, I I like that.
Yeah, you don't want the icecream helmet, you want the soft
server, whatever, but it has tobe in a cone.
SPEAKER_00 (17:01):
I appreciate all the people collecting the helmets
and stuff.
I think some of them lookfantastic, and but yeah, it's
just not something I want to youknow carry with me.
You know, I go into a stadiumempty-handed and you know, kind
of walk out, other than likemaybe I have something, um you
know kind of the same way I camein.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
Yeah, I like that.
No, no, you're right.
Absolutely.
Not uh you know what I did stopcollecting so many things
because I have so much stuff inmy house.
My wife is getting mad at me, soI was like, uh, let's I you're
right, honey.
I I should stop.
So I've slowed down on the youknow, now when I go to the
ballpark, it's if I haven't beenif I don't have a hat, I'll get
a hat.
Uh or I will get a pin now.
(17:41):
That's the only thing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
I got a pen thing right up here.
SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
Oh wow, look at that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
You heard but so few of them are baseball because I
they're mostly national parksand ski things and so forth.
I've had such lousy luck, youknow, finding pins.
But yeah, it's hard to do that.
Maybe restart that and try andstart collecting them again.
But yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:01):
But you're right, though, not a lot of places have
the uh the the pins nowadays,which is a little disappointing,
right?
Yeah, yeah, because you want tosee that.
So all right.
Let me ask you this.
And in I I the this last twoquestions, by the way, are the
the most that people are youknow get a little uh deep in,
(18:22):
right?
And I and I did that for areason, right?
But in your opinion, you know,how has baseball really uh
shaped or or changed your life?
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
Uh it has to be the travel.
Um I you know, I started outgoing to some of the uh local
ballparks.
I mean, uh Yankees and Mets, ofcourse.
Um, I was grew up in Queen, so Iwent to Shea Stadium a lot
because it was only like two orthree train stops away.
The whole thing with going ongame was like, could I get off
the train before they collectedmy ticket so I could use a
(18:55):
ticket for another time?
Right.
You know, like it you didn'tneed to really plan anything.
It's like, hey, let's go, youknow, and again, you know, it
could be Yankee fans, but wewould all go, we would have a
couple drinks, a couple beers,have fun.
Um, so that was always great.
It was a good bonding thing withfriends, but just starting to
travel around the country alittle bit more.
Um, my first road trip wasactually for football.
My first stadium trip was to theold Cleveland Brown Stadium.
SPEAKER_01 (19:19):
No way.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Yes, on my but I was on my way to see the Giants play
Indianapolis, and it's a longtrip.
So I'm like, oh wait, likeCleveland's on the kind of on
the way.
I can pick that up on the waythere.
So yeah, yes, the uh Browns getthe credit as my first um that's
awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
Yeah, and I'm sorry at the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (19:35):
Yeah, yeah, I won't tell you the who they played and
what the score was, but becauseit's not gonna happen, no, I
don't want to know.
But that was such an awesometrip, and I also saw um like the
Ohio caverns, I forgot whereexactly in Ohio there was.
It was just again a little deepplace to stop and see something
that I had never seen before.
And then I also went to the Hallof Fame, um, you know, the
(19:57):
Canton.
Oh, the Canton Hall of Fame,yeah.
So I got to do like all thosethings.
I'm like, man, look at that.
Four different things.
I really wanted to do one thing.
I wanted to see the Giants playin Indianapolis, but I had a
good made a good road trip outof it.
And then like the next year, I'mlike, all right, that worked
well.
I like I said, I knocked off umBoston and Baltimore, but I did
a road trip through the Midwestand seeing ballparks and uh
(20:20):
football stadiums.
And again, same thing, justseeing more and more of the
country, seeing different citiesthat I like Cincinnati.
Why would I, you know, like notthere's really nothing else that
would take me.
I love Cincinnati now, butbecause of a baseball game, I
ended up saying, all right, thisis a cool place to go.
And yeah, anytime I get anexcuse to go, I you know, I do
it now.
And you know, so you get yourall your major league teams that
(20:41):
gives you what 25.
Yeah, some there's a multiplecities, but yeah, you know, 28
cities, I guess, um, that letyou, you know, that you maybe
never would have seen before,but baseball got me to them.
And then you know where I'mgoing with this minor league
baseball, all of a sudden it'slike all those other little
cities you mentioned, Durham andCharlotte.
I mean, I can't, I mean, yeah, Icharlotte went to a football
game, but there's just so manysmaller cities all over the
(21:04):
country that I got to visit umbecause of baseball.
And then all the people thatI've gotten to meet, all the
different people I've gone togames with as a result of you
know, so social media quests, umor social just you know,
interest in self.
Yeah, oh, you're gonna be intown, but you let me know when
you go, and we'll go, you know,we'll go to the game together.
I mean, it to that to me is howI think it's changed me the
(21:25):
most.
It just gave me a greaterappreciation for things and just
an opportunity to see things Imight never um would have tried.
Am I trying to get to everyminorly ballpark?
Not exactly, but if it worksout, great.
But you know, I won't say thatI'm I love going to Durham and
Charlotte last year, but I alsolove the three national park
sites that you have over therewith the uh cow pens and the
(21:48):
Kings Mountain.
I mean, just really kind of coolto walk around, and together
they to me make a great roadtrip.
So um, to me, that's that's whatit's done for you.
So let me see a lot more of thecountry than um I might have
otherwise.
Just you know, beautiful way tostitch together a few hours in a
car every day and just seesomething you know, a little
new, a little exciting.
(22:09):
Maybe not exciting to everybody,but but for me, you know, it
absolutely is.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
Oh no, national parks are cool.
I love I love hiking, you know.
I actually just did uh five-milehike the other day on Friday, so
I felt great just to get out.
And I'm one of those that Idon't put headphones on when I
go hiking.
Yep, I like to just take innature, right?
And then and I've oh so good, sogood for the soul.
SPEAKER_00 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah.
So that that same road trip, Iactually ended up, it was like a
Tuesday, and I hit my next thingwasn't the price.
I'm like, all right, what am Igonna do in Kansas City for the
next few days?
I'm like, oh, screw this, I'mgonna go out to see Mount
Rushmore.
You know, oh no 500 miles, andI'm like, Yeah, I can do that in
a day.
And so on the way back, I saw umBadlands National Park.
And again, I'm like, I didn'tknow what a national park really
(22:54):
was.
I heard of Yosemite andYellowstone and stuff, but
Badlands, it was just an exitoff the interstate.
So I'm like, all right, it won'ttake me out of the way.
And I'll go like this is reallycool.
I you know, I really enjoyed it.
And so I alternated years ofgoing to national parks and
ballparks.
Um that year after I went to, Iwas like, I got to see more
national parks, and I went outto Yellowstone.
Uh I'm sorry, yes, Yosemite andthe Redwood Forest and those
(23:17):
trees out in California.
And I'm like, all right, well,San Francisco is home this
weekend and Oakland's home thenext.
So, all right, in the week inbetween, I'm gonna see you know
these national parks.
I'm like, yeah, this is likelife-changing stuff in some
cases.
SPEAKER_01 (23:31):
That's amazing, Tom.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
Yeah, so that I mean it's worked out for me a lot.
Like I said, some years it'smore national parks, some years
it's more ballparks, and evenfootball stadiums, also.
They you know blended intothings, but yeah, it's just you
know, finding a few things inthe same area and then just you
know getting the schedule towork out and just you know doing
what you can do.
SPEAKER_01 (23:51):
So that's cool, you know.
And I and I think that a lot ofpeople really should realize
that, like, okay, you're gonnago on a trip on a sports trip.
Awesome, I love it.
Good for you, but make sure thatyou are also taking in into what
you have around you, right?
Whether there's a museum, anational park, or whatever it
is, because you that's why youknow that's that's what defines
(24:13):
that area in which you're at,right?
So, why not take into all ofthat?
SPEAKER_00 (24:18):
Yeah, I mean, you can make a trip to Cleveland and
go to you know Cuyahoga NationalPark during the day, right?
Correct, spend three or four,four or five hours in there, and
then go to the baseball gamedoesn't start till seven
o'clock.
So, you know, what are you gonnacorrect?
It's a great place to spend afew hours in between.
SPEAKER_01 (24:32):
You get to do a lot of cool things, like the West
Side Market that's there inCleveland by the ballpark,
right?
Great ballpark, great area to goand look at their food.
Oh, it's so good their food.
Um, there's this one stand theysell these uh sausages there
with sauerkraut and ballparkmustard.
Oh, have mercy.
Now I'm hungry.
It's you know, it's almost nineo'clock at night.
(24:52):
We're all talking, and we arewe're talking about food here.
Exactly.
But that but that's what I mean,though, right?
Like, I mean, you get to chasethat, you get to experience all
of those in Calya Hoga NationalNational Park, or go driving
about 45 minutes down the roadand get yourself to uh the uh
the NFL Hall of Fame, right?
Which is right there in Canton.
And you got like a bunch oflittle minor league ballparks
(25:15):
because then Akron has one.
The Akron um the rubber ducks,you got the Lake County
Captivist, which is not too far.
SPEAKER_00 (25:21):
Still need that one.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (25:23):
Did you get to go while you were in Cleveland?
You may not have, but um, didyou get to go to where the
Cleveland um the the Buckeyesplayed at?
The the Negro Leagues uh teamthat were there.
No, I did not.
SPEAKER_00 (25:37):
No, no, no.
SPEAKER_01 (25:38):
So whenever you get back, and they they have spent
some money there to you know torevamp that like you all all
there is like the ticket boothand one of the walls and some of
the stands, right?
That's still left, but it isstill there, cool right there in
Cleveland.
So I highly suggest foreverybody to when you guys go,
definitely go take a look atthat.
So nice.
All right, so obviously we'reboth baseball fans and we're
(26:00):
football fans, but you know, anduh and you grew up a baseball
fan.
But let me ask you this whybaseball?
Like that's your that's yourfifth question right there.
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
So why that's why baseball thing I had a question
with that why baseball?
I think it's just because youyou can get as close to it or
you know, you know, just stayaway from it a little bit.
You know, this the baseball's along season, right?
I mean, I always tell people I'mnot like I'm not worried about
you know how my team does inApril, and I don't get too
excited if they get off to afair start.
(26:30):
But agree.
You know, if you think of thingsfrom like April to October,
yeah, that's a long season.
If you start thinking aboutthings like spring training and
the Arizona Fall League and theDecember meetings, it's like you
have most of the year covered.
So yeah, do you have to spendevery hour thinking about it?
No, but if there's you cancertainly, you know, read about
it.
I'm in I'm a Sabre member, youknow, so I I I put I participate
(26:52):
in that too.
Not not a I'm not I I like thehistory and stuff.
I'm not really super big on theon the numbers.
My brother-in-law is, and he'sgreat with it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
I'm with you there.
I'm I'm on the history part,yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:03):
So I mean, I I I can read about that, I get books
from them, and you know, so I Iit just it's a great way, you
know, it's a pastime, it helpsyou pass the time.
And I I I mean, I love it.
I mean, football can be veryintentional.
While the hockey when theplayoffs come, there's nothing
like playoff hockey or being ata hockey game.
Um, I'm a I'm a fair weather uhKnicks fan.
(27:26):
When the Knicks are doing greatand they've been doing well the
last few years, I keep up withthem.
But baseball is just it's alwaysaround you, you know.
There's there's always peoplethat want to talk about
baseball, there's always peoplethat um, you know, talking about
doing something for baseball,you know, when the schedule
comes out, you know, it's likethe major league schedule is out
already.
So a lot of the minor leagueswant, I'm already you know,
planning travel for next year,so it just you know kind of lets
(27:48):
you just you know stretch yourmind a little bit and yeah, and
drink daily.
SPEAKER_01 (27:52):
Like I've never been here, all right.
So yeah, I want to hit this.
SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
I work at that desk and I have that map behind me,
and I'm like, all right, Ihaven't been to that part of the
country in five years or tenyears.
Let what ballparks are overthere that I haven't been to or
haven't been to, and that youknow, that's how my my brain
works, you know, it gets me introuble sometimes, but um, yeah,
no, it just it's just awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (28:13):
I mean that's no, that that's that's amazing.
That's what it is, yeah, youknow, because we're all the
same, right?
Like we all get excited when theschedule comes out, you know.
We all get and then obviously,uh, you know, Hurricanes fans
here, right?
So we're watching some hockey.
You are 100% right.
Going to a hockey game, it is anexperience that people should.
(28:35):
That is one of the coolestthings that people should do.
It's so much fun.
Yeah, yep.
Oh my god, the the hits are realthere, right?
You know, like you see it on theTV, but the hits are like when
you see it in person, the fightsand the goal when they scored a
goal and the and the alarm goesoff.
Oh, so it's such a coolexperience, 100%.
I agree with you there.
(28:57):
Um, but yeah, I love baseball.
Like baseball will always be, asyou can see behind me, I got a
bunch of baseball stuff, right?
But baseball will always be myfirst love.
Don't get me wrong, I love mesome football.
You know, I wish my browns werebetter, but you know, here I am.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
But uh, yeah, and I gotta say, like I mentioned, I I
don't do the football how much,but the hat thing, like you
know, you a few of you guys havegotten me you know rethinking
that a little bit.
Like I don't get a hat for everyteam I visit, but I do kind of
want a hat or something fromevery trip.
So if I go to see two or threeballparks, I might say, All
right, what's the one hat that Iwant, or one which one I want
(29:34):
more than the other?
So, but yeah, I am up to likeyou know 50 hats all of a
sudden.
SPEAKER_01 (29:37):
So it's a it gets the it get it it sneaks up on
you, don't it?
SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
It really does.
It it does.
SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
That's amazing, Todd.
Thank you so much for that.
I you know, I got to know you alittle bit more.
See, now you're part of that onepercent of the Yankee fans that
I don't that I don't dislike.
SPEAKER_00 (29:52):
Yeah, they exactly, right?
Yeah, we're not all bad.
Some of us are cocky, we like torest on our laurels a little bit
and we do that soon, but
SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
Um yeah, you know what?
It's okay.
And it's okay.
Enjoy it, right?
Like, I mean, good for you guysthat you get to uh you get to
have listen at the end of theday.
A lot of people are jealous atthe fact that, like, you know,
that the Yankees are who theYankees are because either
there's there's no sometimes noin-between with the Yankees,
right?
It's either you like them or youlove them.
It's just how it goes, you know.
And if you're a fan of anotherteam, you probably don't like
(30:22):
them.
SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
Yep, for sure.
And you know, Toronto's won, soyou know, it's all right.
Yeah, they they they haven't wonin what 30, 25 years, 30 years.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Long time, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:31):
But Milwaukee, I I would love to see them win.
Seattle, like I said, I think wesaid this before, Seattle also.
I would, yeah, I think that'skind of what I'm rooting for if
the Yankees don't you know don'thave a miracle comeback.
Just some you know, somebodynew.
SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
You know, we don't need the Dodgers, but you know,
just uh just get somebody inthere, somebody new in there,
right?
That'll be cool to see.
Absolutely get to enjoy thatbecause not a lot of people get
to enjoy that.
I I mean I'm blessed enough toso that to have seen at least
the very least see my my myguardians or my Indians at that
(31:03):
point, you know, make it to theWorld Series when a lot of
people never never experiencedthat.
Seattle fans have neverexperienced that.
Sure.
I wish we would have won.
But you know, it is what it is.
SPEAKER_00 (31:13):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
So uh Tom, thank you so much.
Where can people find you on onsocial media, my friend?
SPEAKER_00 (31:18):
Yeah, um, I it's mostly Instagram these days.
I haven't, you know, like um andblue sky.
Um yeah, so Instagram it's uhTomT Take2.
You know, it's good it's mysecond Instagram account, and
Blue Sky, it's simply uh TThresh, first initial and last
name, T T H R A S H.
SPEAKER_01 (31:35):
I love it, I love it.
And I'll make sure to put allthe information uh on the notes
so that way you guys make sureto follow Tom.
We do follow each other onInstagram and on uh blue sky as
well.
And threads, yeah.
Yep, and threads.
I gotta do a better job with uhwith with Blue Sky.
I've been concentrating.
You gotta, you know, there's toomany of them.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
Two of them are just like one, one I'll never know
like why something did well onone and not on another.
SPEAKER_01 (31:58):
It's it's insanity, right?
Like you just don't know whetherwhich one will blow up.
SPEAKER_00 (32:03):
And the ones that blow up, it's like that wasn't
even one of my best posts.
SPEAKER_01 (32:07):
Right.
It's so frustrating.
So it's so frustrating, Tom.
I I get it, man.
Uh and make guys before we uh weget off here, make sure you guys
are following me on all thesocials.
I am on Instagram, Twitter, anduh, you know, threads as well,
uh, TikTok, and then obviouslythe YouTube channel.
Make sure you guys are followingthat.
Uh, because uh we do put somelive shows every Tuesday and
(32:29):
Thursdays at 8 p.m.
uh eastern time.
Uh so the uh the dadhatChronicle Sports Show, as well
as on Mondays.
Now we are releasing a new show.
Um, well, actually, one in themorning says Carolina Specific.
Uh, more to come on that.
Uh, we'll be you know, a goodfriend of mine and I will be
talking about Carolina Sports,North Carolina, South Carolina.
But at night, at 8:30, we dohave uh where we talk about the
(32:55):
not the non-major sports, right?
The sports that not a lot ofpeople talk about, you know,
here in the U.S.
So we do talk about some somesoccer, right?
Uh Bundesliga, we talk about uhFormula One, we talk about FCS
football, right?
FCS deserves some love, man.
There's some cool FCS uh teamsout there.
So make sure you guys arefollowing that.
It's all on YouTube.
(33:16):
Uh, and if you are interested incoming on five questions, please
send me a message.
I'll be more than happy to getyou on because obviously that's
how we got Tom here on the onthe podcast.
Again, Tom, thank you so much,my friend.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
And thank you.
Uh really nice talking to you.
Finally get to you know talkface to face.
SPEAKER_01 (33:33):
I know, right?
Face to face.
And uh, we will see you guys onthe next one.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
Cheers, bud.
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