September 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Paul Caputo shares his baseball journey from Little League to international stadiums, exploring how the sport connects generations and creates lifelong friendships. Through personal stories and reflections, he reveals why baseball remains America's most beautiful game.
• Baseball as a family legacy spanning three generations
• Lying about age to play Little League a year early
• Witnessing Ryan Howard's record-breaking three home runs in 2006
• Game 3 of the 2022 World Series as a peak baseball experience
• International baseball experiences in Japan and Puerto Rico
• Annual Jersey Shore family trips centered around the All-Star Game
• "Baseball Palooza" road trips with college friends - four games in four days
• The unique beauty of baseball's aesthetics and dimensions
• How different levels of play showcase distinct aspects of the game
• Baseball communities providing meaningful connections across distances
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
well, you know, we'll say something stupid, but
that's how it goes thank god weweren't recording just now,
though I know right all thosethings we just said oh, all
those things we said aboutpeople, the humanity truly, if
people actually truly do believethat.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi, ed, hey, hey, hey , okay, let's go um, welcome
everybody to, and I'm callingthis so far, uh, baseball roots.
(00:38):
Okay, um, I think it has a niceuh, but this one is gonna be
baseball roots with my goodfriend, paul caputo.
Uh, baseball by design podcast,very small podcast also.
He also it happens to be, uh,you know, um a what was it uh
new york times bestseller uhauthor that our friend uh calls
you patrick larson of?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
uh mlb had history I don't like to claim that,
largely because it's a lie.
However, I did self-publish acollection of essays on Amazon,
which is easy to do.
Anyone can do it?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, it's not.
It is not easy.
I can't write worth a lick, soyou know what I mean.
That's why I'm a podcaster.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, it's more fun.
You know, when I wrote thosearticles that are in the book,
they're all based on likeconversations that I had with
designers and front officepeople and I'm like the
conversations are the fun partof that, right, yeah, absolutely
the transcribing and thewriting.
That's a pain in the neck.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I agree with you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So that's how I'm doing a podcast too, Ed.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hey, now we're talking, so, all right, my
friend I got to say welcome toBaseball Roots.
My name is Ed, also known asthe Dad Head, and, like I've
already introduced my friend,paul Caputo.
He is also a co-founder of thislittle media company that we
both have.
It's called Curve Brain Media,a company that has, you know,
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network with a bunch ofpodcasters, right, you know,
looking to spread the love ofwhat is minor league baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's how come we're so rich is because of this
podcast Super rich, exactly Veryrich.
Every day I check my bankaccount to see if I'm rich yet
from corporate media Stillwaiting.
Not there yet.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
One day.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
One day we'll get there, one day we'll get there
I'll be like where did all thismoney come from?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I know, right, all right.
So, my friend, I got fivequestions for you, okay, and if
you guys have already showed,this will be episode number four
, numero cuatro.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So we had Virgil Yep, Then we had Donnie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We have Donnie, correct?
And then the third one hasn'tbeen released yet at the time of
this recording, at the time ofthis recording, correct?
But, um, it will be released,right?
Uh, it, his name is kellyrobinson.
Oh, the minor league nerd.
Minor league nerd, that iscorrect.
So he is number three.
So you are number four, okay,uh.
And then, uh, if you'relistening to this, patrick, you
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might be number five, you mightbe number 100, we don't know yet
.
Pat larson, pat larson, uh,it's, you guys will get it
eventually.
All right, my friend, I'm goingto start with the very first
question, and here it is whendid you fall in love with
baseball?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So my parents tell a very funny story from when I was
a kid, because I have an olderbrother.
He's about two and a half yearsolder than I am and he was
playing little league.
You know, we grew up playingwiffle ball.
We went to Phillies games.
I don't remember the firstPhillies game I ever went to
back in veteran stadium and youknow it was just always part of
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my life.
My grandfather played baseballlike as a semi pro.
My dad loved the sport.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
My grandfather was a.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Philadelphia A's fan and then switched to the
Phillies.
Yep, Yep, Yep, Switched to thePhillies.
Uh, when the A's moved toKansas city.
My dad was raised on baseball.
I was raised on baseball, so Idon't really remember a time
when, you know, I I fell in lovewith it because I was.
I was always in love with it.
You know love with it for myentire memory of my life.
The funny thing, though, is mybrother was older than I am,
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continues to be older than I am.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
To this day.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
He was playing Little League and apparently,
according to my parents tellingof the story, it killed me that
I was not also out there, likeon that field, playing Little
League.
My birthday is in August andthe cutoff was september.
Oh no, yeah.
And so when I was a month shyof being old enough to play
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little league baseball, myparents took me into little
league, lied about my age andgot me in a year early because
it was driving me crazy that Iwas not allowed to play yet,
which meant, by the way, that Iwas always, for the next six,
seven years of Little League.
I was the youngest and smallestkid on the team, so maybe it
wasn't the best for my baseballplayer development, but it got
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me out of my parents' hair andonto the ball field, so it's
always been there, I think,having an older brother and
playing wiffle ball, playingwith his friends, playing, you
know, with my dad, all of itit's, it's, it's wonderful,
right?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I mean that's, that's what it's all about yeah, yeah,
yeah I loved going to veteranstadium.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I used to love going and we had a friend in the
neighborhood, paul o'donnell.
Shout out to paul o'donnell ifyou're listening.
His dad used to take us tophilly's games.
They had season tickets but heliked to leave early and it's oh
, no, no, no, no, no no we'd bethere and I would be like, come
on, please, let us stay.
And he'd want to leave, likeright in, like the seventh
inning, and I, like I used to, Iused to love going to the games
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, but like it would, hate it atthe same time, because you knew
you were gonna be, you know, andI'll say yeah if I have to
leave early.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I mean, I have left early.
It's not by my choice, right?
But there has to be things thathappened in order for me to
have to leave, like, for example, a couple weeks ago when we
were together at the time ofthis recording.
Of course, I had to catch aflight.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You had to catch a flight.
Staying to the end of thatSchomburg Boomers game would
have cost you a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
A lot of money and a lot of headaches.
So let's not although they didcome back and win, from what I
understand.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They did.
It was an exciting game and itwas like 115 degrees while we
were there watching it.
But we got to go out on thefield beforehand.
I loved this.
Every Sunday home game theyhave have a catch on a field day
and we got it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That was a lot of fun .
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was a great time we got to go out there and
throw the ball around.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That was fun.
I enjoy that a lot.
There's pictures on theInstagram page, so that way, if
you guys want to take a lookunder the Ad Hoc Chronicles
Instagram page as well asBaseball by Design page, all
right, my friend.
Here's question number two All.
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Question number two.
All right, give me a couple ofyour favorite baseball memories.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know you have a bunch of these obviously.
There's a lot.
There was the time when, inLittle League, the last year I
played Little League I I hadaged out technically because of
the number of years I had played.
And then my parents went backto the little league and they
were like, guess what?
(07:11):
We lied to you like six yearsago and Paul's birthday is
actually August not September,and they were like desperate for
players.
And so they were like great,great Paul's eligible to play
another year, cause hell, yeah,yeah.
So I got to play another yearand that was the one and only
year that I was an all-star uhin for for wayne little league
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in pennsylvania outside ofphilly, and in the all-star game
I hit a an extra innings doubleand scored the winning run uh
league, so that's one of myfavorite.
Uh, uh, yeah, I hit a gapper anduh scored the scored the
winning run later on in thatinning in extras, so that was
fun, but the two, well, I yes somany stories.
(07:56):
I was just on tv the other day.
By the way, this is hilarious.
My brother to tell my brother,the fancy lawyer, uh has long
had these really awesomePhillies tickets, correct.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm not jealous at all, by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There was one period of time where these tickets were
directly behind home plate sothat you were on TV with every
single pitch.
In 2006, september 3rd 2006,ryan Howard hit three home runs
in one game to become the singleseason record holder for the
Phillies.
We were right behind home platefor that game and I was
(08:30):
watching the game the other dayand they decided they were going
to like flashback to thatmoment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So here.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I am sitting on my sofa and they're like flashback
to Ryan Howard and I'm like,wait a minute.
That's me on TV watching thePhillies.
Wait a second I know that I knowthat guy, One of my other
favorites.
When I was in college in 1993,I was at the University of
Richmond and the Phillies wereabout to clinch the division and
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some buddy of mine and I drovefrom Richmond to Philadelphia to
watch the Phillies play a veryimportant game against the
Atlanta Braves, who were then inthe National League West, not
the National League East, and itwas.
It wasn't the clincher, but itwas like it got them within like
a game or two of finallyclinching the East.
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It was.
There was no question that theywere going to clinch, but it
was because they had like a 10,12 game lead over the Expos.
But like driving all the way upthere to Philly from Richmond
watching this game, goingabsolutely crazy, Mike Zimmer,
Tina Nancarrow, Melissa Casperand we all drove up there, saw
this game and then it turnedright around and drove back to
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Richmond, got in at like threein the morning that night.
It was all totally worth it,I'd have to say.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
My absolute favorite memory, uh if you say world
series, I will kill you the gamethree of the 2022 world series,
phillies won seven.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Nothing.
I was there.
My dad, my brother and mynephew were also in the ballpark
, not sitting with us becausethey had different seats.
That you know, I've neverexperiencing.
I've never experienced anythingquite like that amount of noise
, that level of excitementwatching the Phillies take a two
games to one lead in the worldseries.
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They would eventually lose thatworld series four games to two.
That was a bummer.
And then I know you guys allmake fun of me because I'm
always bringing up Japan, but Igot to say, going to Japan to
see two games in Osaka to seethe Hanshin Tigers, that's a
signature baseball experiencefor me.
It was incredible and I talkabout it all the time for a
reason.
I've never experienced anythingquite like that the singing,
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the music, the environment.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wait, you've been to Japan.
Enough with this, oh my God.
No, you know what, though?
I'm actually super jealous ofthe fact that you've actually
been to Japan to actually watchsome baseball in Japan, because
that's always been.
You know, you and me we talkedabout this.
It's been on a bucket list ofthe places that us, as baseball
fans, we should go and watch,right?
(11:05):
Yeah, I always say, go to theCaribbean, watch some baseball
in the Caribbean, which both ofus have done, obviously, me
being from Puerto Rico, and youwere in Puerto Rico watching the
Caribbean series, right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Definitely here, and then Japan, and then also the
Midnight Sun game.
Those are places that peopleshould go to watch baseball.
So I still have not watchedmidnight sun, which we still got
to do our friend anna just wentthere for the second time
that's hard to believe yeah, Iknow we should, we should
definitely go uh, you knowwhat's on my bucket list too is
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the world baseball classic.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Love to get to a world baseball classic I've done
that yeah, where was that?
You went in?
Miami, right?
No, puerto rico.
Oh, you went to puerto rico.
Yep, yep, yep, so cool puertorico against spain.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And that was like I got lucky because we were
looking for tickets.
Obviously the most popular onewas puerto rico, dominican
republic, just because that'sjust a, you know, rivalry of
countries, right.
But let me tell you, it doesn'tmatter.
You're there and it's a party.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Baseball in Japan, baseball in Puerto Rico, in the
Caribbean, it's totallydifferent than baseball here in
the US.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, completelydifferent.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
When I go to a World Baseball Classic game, I would
like to go, ideally, somewhereoutside the continental United
States, right like so you'reseeing it in puerto rico.
That's super cool, you know,maybe like a game in mexico city
or something that would be cooltoo, you know as much as I want
to see a game, a world baseballclassic game, I'm not sure if
it would be the same going tolike chase field in arizona or
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like going to miami or somethinglike that I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, caribbean baseball series in Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I believe that I believe that that was unreal.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking of when I thought you
went and saw it in Miami, right?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, that was a Caribbean baseball series which
is again for all.
Of you fans of baseball got togo and watch that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Caribbean baseball series is all of the winter
league champions.
Right At the end of the season,all the champions, they get
together in what is called theCaribbean baseball series and
then then you are.
You know, you play a series,round Robin or whatever, how
they set it up each year, rightCause every every year it
changes.
At the end of it, one teambecomes the you know, the
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champion of all of the winterleagues.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So I saw Venezuela play Mexico in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Venezuela's a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, mexico is actually.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Mexico is gaining in popularity in.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, all right, my friend, are you ready for
question number three?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Question number three .
We're at three already.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We are at three already.
Can you believe it?
This one, it goes by quick.
There's only five questions,guys.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's what the series used to be called was
five questions.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Five questions.
Right, baseball for fivequestions.
Whichever one you want to callit, I'm okay with this.
All right, give me a couple ofbaseball traditions or rituals
uh, you and I cannot wait forthis one.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Um well, every year we go to the jersey shore.
It is, uh, you know, one of myfavorite times a year.
That trip at the time of thisrecording is is coming up and my
brother will get.
He will collect as many ticketsas he can for all of us to go
together, and so we have a bunchof people who go to the
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Phillies games who, you know, mykids aren't necessarily the
biggest baseball fans in theworld, my, you know, my mom is
certainly not a big baseball fan, but it's just like a big, huge
family event, right, likeeverybody loves, going to the
phillies game together andsitting in my.
It's a treat because my brotherhas his like fancy seats and
everything.
(14:50):
So we will go there, we go,they we have access to like the
fancy restaurant.
That's only this the fancyticket holders have, and so we
get there and we'll, you knowwe'll.
We'll uh, load up on yinglingsand cheesesteaks and and my
parents will go to the salad bar.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right, right, right, right, so that that to me is a.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Uh, you know, I don't know if that qualifies as a, as
a tradition, in the sort ofclassical sense.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The other one that's most definitely a tradition.
I mean it's every year you dothis right with your family here
for the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The other thing that we do is we're usually at the
Jersey Shore for the, for theAll-Star game, and so will my.
You know my brother will eitherorder like pizza from one of
the awesome pizza places thatthey have there.
My brother will like fire upthe grill and we'll do.
You know, burgers and corn onthe cob, and you know new jersey
corn on the cob, you can't beatit right like it's tomatoes and
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corn on the cob it's the gardenstate for a reason.
Um, so we'll.
We'll watch the all-star gameon tv at the shore after, like,
a long day swimming in the ocean.
You know we'll have a couple ofhorrible.
have a couple of gin and tonicsand some chips and guac on the
roof and then we'll all watchthe uh, the all-star game.
One of my favorite stories fromwatching the all-star game at
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the shore was when my nephew,who was going to be a freshman
in college next year, he um,when he was real little, he's
like a, you know, a hugebaseball fan, huge sports fan
and we were watching the gameand they were introducing the
lineups and he was young enoughthat he was missing his two
front teeth, right Like his twofront teeth had come out at the
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same time and they're panningfrom player to player to player
and he is naming the playersbefore the announcers name the
players, right?
So that's how good he was.
He was like the all-stars forevery team he was naming.
So that's how good he was, hewas like the all-stars for every
team he was naming.
And so they pan, they pan to aplayer and my nephew, like super
confidently, with no frontteeth, goes that's Yonath
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Thethbedeth.
So I spent the rest of the gametrying to get Matthew to say
Yonath Thethbedeth.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No teeth.
So and then also the baseballtradition in my life, I mean the
.
You know we've establishedsomething of a tradition in the
last couple of years with thecurb rim meetup.
That's been a lot of fun.
That's three years.
For the last decade I have beendoing baseball palooza with my
college buddy friends.
We do four minor league gamesin four days.
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I used to think that that waslike a big deal until I got on
social media and saw the roadtrips that some other folks take
.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We're talking to you, Eric Prophet.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Or mapping the path right, Like he does like 29
games in like 30 days with hisdad.
But the Baseballpalooza roadtrip, it's 10 guys, pretty much
the same 10 guys year after yearafter year, and it's just
amazing to me that, like thereare, you know, there are 10 of
us who have known each other for30 years at least, who all live
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in different parts of thecountry.
You know, we represent all fourtime zones in the continental
United States and all of them,every one of these these guys,
like every year, prioritizes I'mgonna do baseball palooza and
you know the guys make fun of mebecause I get like a little
excited about planning it andeverything.
Uh, but no right, but the, theroad trip that we take with that
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group is just it's so much funand I'll be honest, like, I used
to post about it on socialmedia and it reached a point
where I guess, you know, whenthe, when the podcast got,
became a little more popular andI got a little more followers,
that people would just startshowing up.
So I've actually stoppedposting about it because, like
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the dynamic of this, you knowthis group- you want it to be
with you, just you and yourbuddies.
Yeah, that's it it's theopposite of the curb room media
meetup.
Right, curb room media meetupis so much fun.
Come one, come all um and thenthe other.
Uh, more recent tradition thathas been a lot of fun is uh,
minor league baseball designerextraordinaire dan simon
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gathered, gathered Anna DiTomasoand Ranger Amy and me, and
every year we do a differentpart of it's been mostly the
Southeast actually, now that Ithink about it, but-.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, you guys go to the Southeast a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Take a road trip with Dan Simon, who is a super
interesting and fun guy, andAnna DiTomaso, who we love.
You know that's another minorleague baseball.
So my minor league baseballroad trips are growing every
year between the CBM meetup, anaDanna Palooza and the baseball
Palooza, I'm doing a lot oftravel to get to minor league
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baseball games.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh God, what a horrible life.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Look, I know what I'm doing.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, I know right, I'm an adult, I can do this.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm a grown-ass man.
I'll take a minor leaguebaseball run.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm a grown man Do it live.
All right, you ready forquestion number four?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I am ready for question number four.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think these last two are really good and very
interesting.
That will get into the psycheof people of how they really
think about baseball.
How they really think aboutbaseball.
How has baseball changed yourlife?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, I think about, I mean, the main thing,
especially in my life right now.
I was thinking about thisyesterday, I think, before we
started recording.
I was telling you how mydaughter, maya, who is also
going to be a freshman incollege next year, challenged me
to name 100 baseball teams inthe 10 minute drive on the on
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the way back from our littleadventure that we were having
out paddle boarding at the, uhuh, horse tooth reservoir.
So we had 10 minutes and I forme to name a hundred baseball
teams and I was just like, allright, but what are we going to
do with the other eight minutesof this drive?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
True, story guys, this guy, he knows his baseball
but it was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know, honestly, for me and this is it's going to
sound sort of cliche, right,but, like the, the baseball
community is so important to me.
This group of friends that wehave made this community that
exists online with CurveBrimMedia, is hugely important to me
.
The friendship that you and Ihave, the friendship that we
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have with that core group offolks, the CBM crowd, that means
a lot to me.
You and I talk a lot outside ofthe world of baseball.
I know every time my phonerings at six o'clock in the
morning, either someone in myfamily has died or ed rivera
wants to check in and say hi.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I wake up.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So I wake you up so early uh, my college friends who
I do baseball palooza with, youknow it's these are.
You know these are friends I'vehad for 30 years.
But like the baseball paloozawith you know it's these are,
you know these are friends I'vehad for 30 years.
But like the baseball Paloozatrip, texting about baseball,
you know, I mean, my phone'sbeen sort of lighting up over
here because the Phillies beatthe Padres for nothing tonight
and you know it's that, thatcommunity that I have with my
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friends, the closeness that Ihave with with my family, like
my, you know, my brother, my dad, my nephew, we, you know we'll
text about the Phillies all thetime and we'll, you know it's
always something that we can, wecan talk about.
So, the, the memories, theconversations, the, the, the
looking forward to, you know,future baseball events, all of
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that is things I'm doing withpeople in my life that you know,
the people in my life who Ilove, and it it's.
You know, that baseball isabout so much more than just the
game, um, and then it's also,you know it's, it's the routine,
it's the ritual, right, like Icame home tonight, uh, before
you and I, you know, hopped onthis to record this episode I
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had the Phillies game on.
I was watching the Phillies andthe Phillies were winning 4-0
in the middle of the ninth and Ihad to turn the game off and
come record this, and it took meuntil just now to see that they
had won 4-0.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know you could have, just we could have waited.
You know, I have no issueswhatsoever with hey let me
finish the game real quick.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm like absolutely, you know full well that that is
a jinx.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The phillies would have lost the game if I had said
let's delay our recording.
And, by the way, he does notbelieve in jinxes at all.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
There's no way no, what is this witchcraft?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
it's uh, it's ridiculous, it's silly oh my god
, there's no way that I wouldtake my jersey off and put it
back in the closet becausethey're losing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Or sit on a different sofa, cushion or pace behind
the sofa.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Or tell my wife, during the middle of game six, I
believe, to stay in thebathroom because they were, you
know, scoring.
You know, while she was there,they were winning.
So I told her to go back.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
One of my proudest moments as a parent was in 2018,
when the Eagles were in theSuper Bowl against the Patriots.
My daughter Olivia realized itwas one of these back and forth
games, and my daughter Oliviarealized that when she was
watching, the Patriots scoredand when she was not watching,
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the Eagles scored.
And so in the fourth quarter ofthat game, for the entire
fourth quarter of that game, shestood with her back to the
television in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I was like I'm so proud and I wanted to be like,
no, that's ridiculous.
Come watch, the Eagles aregoing to win the.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Superbowl no, no, no, no no.
Like you can't Listen.
We all know that fans, you know, is short for fanatic, yeah
Right, you know we have ourcrazy things, but you cannot go
against that, so do not test.
You know, with fate or here,that I mess with fate.
So Right, all right, my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Here we go.
I can't believe we're alreadyhere.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I know it went by so quick.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I know, but that's how these episodes have been.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I do have a question for you?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, the one that you recorded with Kelly, episode
number three of this series didyou call it five questions, or
did you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't know, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I, you know let's keep it going with five
questions.
Oh well, I was just going tosay I'm kind of proud to be the
first episode of baseball roots,baseball roots.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
All right, I'm first.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You are the first.
I was going to say somethingstupid, but I'm going to keep it
All right.
All right, Paul, my friend.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right, ed Rivera.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So why baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's the whole question.
Why baseball is the wholequestion?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That's it.
Why baseball?
Why not all the sport rightLike?
Why baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, well, I think this goes back to the
community thing that I was justtalking about.
Right, like I'm sure if I hadbeen born somewhere where soccer
was the sport or if I had beenborn into a family where it was
basketball, I actually was.
You know, for many years myvery close second favorite sport
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was college basketball.
Second favorite sport wascollege basketball.
My dad taught at Villanova andwhen I was 12 years old,
villanova very unexpectedly wonthe college basketball
championship in 1985 overGeorgetown 66 to 64 on April
Fool's Day.
(26:05):
No but who's you know?
No one's going to remember that, Right?
No, no, certainly not.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
No 40 years later.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So you know it's really goes back to, I think you
know the the having thiscommunity to share this
experience with.
You know, I wonder about thatsometimes.
I mean, I have friends who arelike big fans of British soccer,
right Like they're like man Ufans or whatever, and I
(26:34):
certainly get that soccer is inits own right a beautiful,
nuanced sport.
I don't follow it closelybecause I don't have a team.
It wasn't part of the communitythat I grew up in.
You know college basketball Iliked because I, you know, my
dad taught there.
But like that sport has changedquite a bit.
(26:55):
I follow the NFL.
I care a lot that the Eaglesjust won the Super Bowl.
Nothing compares to thePhiladelphia Phillies winning
the World Series in 2008,.
Right Like, there's just noexperience sports wise in my
lifetime that holds a candle tothat.
That matters the absolute mostand it's I think I want to feel
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that.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want to feel you should.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
everyone deserves to feel that honestly, like there's
nothing quite like it and youprobably can relate, right,
because you had the cavaliersyep who won, uh, all those
browns championships inCleveland.
Like that's a big deal.
Sorry, what happened?
Thanks, is this still on?
Is this thing on?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but no, but like.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I mean, I think that's a pretty comparable thing
.
Right Like the Cavalierswinning for you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That was an experience, that's a big deal
right, oh, it was a massive dealfor Cleveland.
We, which we haven't, you know,we haven't won a championship
in in such a long time, right,that it was like the the closest
thing that we got was theindians, right in 95, 97, you
know, six, like you know.
So there was like these, these,these moments, but it was for,
not because they never, theynever won.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, thanks, marlins , thanks waves, so so you have a
similar thing where it's likeyour city has experienced that,
but not your favorite sport,your favorite team, correct?
And I do have the Phillies in08, and that was amazing.
And I have the Eagles with twochampionships since 2018.
(28:27):
So that's cool, right, likethat's.
I.
I do feel lucky to have gottento experience that.
I watched the highlights overand over again.
I mean, trust me, I, I live inthat.
But baseball, you know, any fanof any sport is going to wax
poetic about their, theirfavorite sport.
You know the sounds, the, thesites, the, the dimensions, the
(28:50):
sort of perfect moments.
And you know the sounds, thesights, the dimensions, the sort
of perfect moments.
And you know baseball, baseballis all of that for me.
I had the experience recently ofgoing to a Rockies game with
Eric the peanut guy, who wasvisiting Colorado.
He and his wife, carina, werein town for a wedding, and so we
we got to spend a day togetherand we had these awesome seats
(29:12):
right behind the first basedugout and then, after, like the
third inning, eric's like okay,it's time to go wandering and
we like we.
You know the Rockies field.
Obviously it has an openconcourse and so you can follow
the game while you're wandering,but we, like, wandered the
concourse.
We went up to the rooftop bar.
We ended up in the purple rowof a mile high above above sea
(29:34):
level, ended up in the very toprow in the outfield.
Mind you, we had seats 20 rowsbehind first base and by the end
of the game.
We're like at the top rowbecause it's just such a
beautiful game, right, like thedimensions, the aesthetics, the
ballpark itself is so beautifuland you know, I always feel a
little, you know, like I alwayswant to say like baseball is
(29:57):
objectively the most beautifulsport, it's the most
aesthetically pleasing from asound perspective, from a visual
perspective, from a dimensionsperspective.
Oh, you know, and I'm sure anyfan of any sport is going to say
that about their own sport.
Um, you know, I've beenwatching.
Welcome to Rexham.
Uh, on uh yeah, and it's.
(30:20):
It's sort of cool to see peoplewho are as passionate about you
know their sport as as I amabout baseball.
But one of the funny thingsthat was, um, that I was really
enjoying.
My daughter, maya, was with usthat day with Eric, uh, and
Karina, and Ranger Amy was theretoo, and we we went to, uh, we
(30:40):
went to a couple of sort ofhistorical baseball sites and
and Maya was just enjoying beingalong for the ride and she said
, uh, later on I was just likeMaya, is this all like a little
insane for you?
And she said, you know whatshe's like.
I really enjoy seeing peoplewho are this passionate about
anything, and let alone two ofthem in the same room, and I'm
like, well, man, you should havebeen at the cookout that Kelly
(31:02):
Robinson had for us, you know,because it was all people like
that, right.
It was all of us, and so I thinkthat's, that's the short answer
to how come baseball right?
Like is this community, thecommunity I grew up with, my
college friends, who I take thebaseball palooza trip with.
All of that, you know,reinforces my belief that you
know my own personal opinionthat baseball is the most
(31:25):
aesthetically beautiful sportand the rules themselves lend
themselves to these incrediblytense, amazing athletic moments
that, in my mind, the othersports just can't quite
replicate 90 feet, right?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You know how do you even quantify that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I mean, that's just yeah that's how it is right and
to see the plays that areroutine for the major leaguers,
you know the game at its highestlevel, the, the plays that are
routine, versus the plays thatare not routine.
Correct, as you get furtherdown the, the, the rings of, you
(32:10):
know, or the the levels of playthe other thing that I think is
you know, right, yeah, you'replaying.
You're playing sandlot ball nowand I think that's super cool,
um, but you can the.
The other thing that I think isis really beautiful about
baseball that the other sportsin many ways do not have is the
(32:31):
levels, the classifications thatyou can go experience as a fan.
I mean, the NBA has the Gleague, but who really you know
who's taking G league road tripsout there?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
right.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Football, you really have the pros, and then you have
college and maybe you have,like I don't know, arena
football or whatever.
I guess soccer really, you knowyou've got the levels of soccer
with the promotion.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, you got USL, and so you've got different
levels.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But being able to go see baseball as a fan at AAA, aa
, high, a single, a independentcollegiate summer level, like I
mean, all those different levelsof baseball and seeing how the
nuances change from level tolevel it is, is really
incredible.
I have pioneer league baseball,used to have pioneer league,
(33:18):
pioneer league baseball close tome here.
Uh, as of this afternoon, atthe time in this recording, the
owls with a z are no more, soI've got to go a couple hours
down to colorado springs now tosee, uh, pioneer baseball.
You can't say ils with a z areno more, so I've got to go a
couple hours down to coloradosprings now to see a pioneer
baseball you can't say I waswith a z anymore I can't, I
can't, uh, but like that leagueis a an mlb partner league.
(33:42):
the moment a pitcher learns howto throw anything other than a
fastball, they get snatched upand signed to an affiliated
team's system, and so what thatmeans is you've got all these
teams out in the mountain timezone with pitchers who can only
throw fastballs, which meansthat every single game is going
to end in a score of 15 to 12because it's all fastballs.
(34:04):
It's high elevation and that'slike a beautiful nuance about
this game.
You know it's.
You know that that one littledetail right there completely
changes it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So you can definitely tell the level of the player's
ability.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Sometimes between indie ball and affiliated like
the say double, a triple, aright Like major leagues yeah.
It's there's a.
There's a contrast leagues.
Yeah, it's there's a.
There's a contrast here.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, there's a yeah yeah you can definitely tell
and then the the flip side ofthat is and you're gonna laugh
at me and I know pat larson isgonna make this joke as well but
when we were in japan, uh,watching japanese baseball, it
was contact hitters, it was slaphitters, it was trying to
manufacture runs.
I actually subscribed to theHanjin Tigers streaming service
(34:54):
and you know, and I'll put theoften those games happen
overnight.
But I'll get up in the morningand I'll sometimes like with my
coffee, I'll put on the previousnight's game just to watch a
little bit, totally fun.
But man, man, like, if a teamhas a two nothing lead in the
sixth inning, that game feelsover.
You know it's like, you knowyou how, how in the world are
(35:14):
you going to score three runs towin a game now?
And uh, it's just totallydifferent, totally, totally
different.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Still every bit as good, but totally different you
know the the way that baseballis looked at in different parts
of the world is fascinating andthat's a conversation obviously
for another podcast, right, yeah, for sure.
But it's fascinating to see,like, the level of detail that
(35:45):
in Japan they pay attention tocertain things rather than here
in the us and that's okay I meanthere's no, there's no right or
wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Right like I mean, it's just that you can play
baseball however you want yeah,but in japan, if you're, if
you're down one and you get thelead off, runner on, I guarantee
you there's a sacrifice buntcoming, whereas in major league
baseball they're trying to getaway for the rally with the
field.
Yeah, yeah, exactly they're.
They're playing for the rally,they're playing for the big hit,
and it's just, you know, andit's not to say one's better
(36:14):
than the other, but man, it'sfascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm a fan of you know the sacrifice.
I'm a fan of a small ball, sothere's that.
Yeah, my friend, my friend,thank you so much for doing this
.
Obviously, I knew a lot of thisstuff already beforehand, just
because we do talk all the timeand obviously we're both massive
(36:38):
fans of the sport of baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
But where can people find you on the socials?
Well, I am on, largely I wouldsay, instagram, and threads and
blue sky are probably the onesI'm on the most, and those are
all at baseball by design.
Um, you can also follow mywriting.
I write for the website sportslogosnet.
That's been since 2014.
So that's been fun to uh to dothat.
(37:06):
Yeah, so uh, but then also thepodcast itself.
Anywhere you listen to podcasts, it's baseball by design and uh
, that has been a really funpassion project and I've gotten
to meet so many interestingpeople through it, so it's a ton
of fun.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, and make sure you guys follow the data
chronicles on uh blue sky onthreads Instagram.
Uh, the Dead High Chronicles onBlue Sky on Threads Instagram,
youtube, heck, even Facebook aswell.
On Tuesdays and Thursdays, 9 pmEastern time is the Dead High
Chronicles Sports Show.
Okay, paul, don't forget.
9 pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Tuesdays and Thursdays 7 o'clock.
Fake mountain time.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
The time zone that doesn't exist.
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Ed, did you order yourself a moon?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
mammoth's hat.
Today I have not.
Okay, I'm very close.
I love the logo that will bediscussed again on a Tuesday of
the Dead Hat Chronicles SportsShow, just so you guys know.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I placed my pre-order .
I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Again, make sure you guys are following corporate
media.
We are again on all socials anduntil then, guys keep on
playing baseball and support theminor leagues.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Thanks, ed, okay, bye .
well, you know, we'll say something stupid, but
that's how it goes thank god weweren't recording just now,
though I know right all thosethings we just said oh, all
those things we said aboutpeople, the humanity truly, if
people actually truly do believethat.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi, ed, hey, hey, hey , okay, let's go um, welcome
everybody to, and I'm callingthis so far, uh, baseball roots.
(00:38):
Okay, um, I think it has a niceuh, but this one is gonna be
baseball roots with my goodfriend, paul caputo.
Uh, baseball by design podcast,very small podcast also.
He also it happens to be, uh,you know, um a what was it uh
new york times bestseller uhauthor that our friend uh calls
you patrick larson of?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
uh mlb had history I don't like to claim that,
largely because it's a lie.
However, I did self-publish acollection of essays on Amazon,
which is easy to do.
Anyone can do it?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
No, it's not.
It is not easy.
I can't write worth a lick, soyou know what I mean.
That's why I'm a podcaster.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, it's more fun.
You know, when I wrote thosearticles that are in the book,
they're all based on likeconversations that I had with
designers and front officepeople and I'm like the
conversations are the fun partof that, right, yeah, absolutely
the transcribing and thewriting.
That's a pain in the neck.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I agree with you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So that's how I'm doing a podcast too, Ed.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hey, now we're talking, so, all right, my
friend I got to say welcome toBaseball Roots.
My name is Ed, also known asthe Dad Head, and, like I've
already introduced my friend,paul Caputo.
He is also a co-founder of thislittle media company that we
both have.
It's called Curve Brain Media,a company that has, you know,
(01:58):
network with a bunch ofpodcasters, right, you know,
looking to spread the love ofwhat is minor league baseball.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's how come we're so rich is because of this
podcast Super rich, exactly Veryrich.
Every day I check my bankaccount to see if I'm rich yet
from corporate media Stillwaiting.
Not there yet.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
One day.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
One day we'll get there, one day we'll get there
I'll be like where did all thismoney come from?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I know, right, all right.
So, my friend, I got fivequestions for you, okay, and if
you guys have already showed,this will be episode number four
, numero cuatro.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So we had Virgil Yep, Then we had Donnie.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
We have Donnie, correct?
And then the third one hasn'tbeen released yet at the time of
this recording, at the time ofthis recording, correct?
But, um, it will be released,right?
Uh, it, his name is kellyrobinson.
Oh, the minor league nerd.
Minor league nerd, that iscorrect.
So he is number three.
So you are number four, okay,uh.
And then, uh, if you'relistening to this, patrick, you
(02:59):
might be number five, you mightbe number 100, we don't know yet
.
Pat larson, pat larson, uh,it's, you guys will get it
eventually.
All right, my friend, I'm goingto start with the very first
question, and here it is whendid you fall in love with
baseball?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So my parents tell a very funny story from when I was
a kid, because I have an olderbrother.
He's about two and a half yearsolder than I am and he was
playing little league.
You know, we grew up playingwiffle ball.
We went to Phillies games.
I don't remember the firstPhillies game I ever went to
back in veteran stadium and youknow it was just always part of
(03:38):
my life.
My grandfather played baseballlike as a semi pro.
My dad loved the sport.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
My grandfather was a.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Philadelphia A's fan and then switched to the
Phillies.
Yep, Yep, Yep, Switched to thePhillies.
Uh, when the A's moved toKansas city.
My dad was raised on baseball.
I was raised on baseball, so Idon't really remember a time
when, you know, I I fell in lovewith it because I was.
I was always in love with it.
You know love with it for myentire memory of my life.
The funny thing, though, is mybrother was older than I am,
(04:10):
continues to be older than I am.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
To this day.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
He was playing Little League and apparently,
according to my parents tellingof the story, it killed me that
I was not also out there, likeon that field, playing Little
League.
My birthday is in August andthe cutoff was september.
Oh no, yeah.
And so when I was a month shyof being old enough to play
(04:34):
little league baseball, myparents took me into little
league, lied about my age andgot me in a year early because
it was driving me crazy that Iwas not allowed to play yet,
which meant, by the way, that Iwas always, for the next six,
seven years of Little League.
I was the youngest and smallestkid on the team, so maybe it
wasn't the best for my baseballplayer development, but it got
(04:57):
me out of my parents' hair andonto the ball field, so it's
always been there, I think,having an older brother and
playing wiffle ball, playingwith his friends, playing, you
know, with my dad, all of itit's, it's, it's wonderful,
right?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I mean that's, that's what it's all about yeah, yeah,
yeah I loved going to veteranstadium.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I used to love going and we had a friend in the
neighborhood, paul o'donnell.
Shout out to paul o'donnell ifyou're listening.
His dad used to take us tophilly's games.
They had season tickets but heliked to leave early and it's oh
, no, no, no, no, no no we'd bethere and I would be like, come
on, please, let us stay.
And he'd want to leave, likeright in, like the seventh
inning, and I, like I used to, Iused to love going to the games
(05:36):
, but like it would, hate it atthe same time, because you knew
you were gonna be, you know, andI'll say yeah if I have to
leave early.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I mean, I have left early.
It's not by my choice, right?
But there has to be things thathappened in order for me to
have to leave, like, for example, a couple weeks ago when we
were together at the time ofthis recording.
Of course, I had to catch aflight.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You had to catch a flight.
Staying to the end of thatSchomburg Boomers game would
have cost you a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
A lot of money and a lot of headaches.
So let's not although they didcome back and win, from what I
understand.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
They did.
It was an exciting game and itwas like 115 degrees while we
were there watching it.
But we got to go out on thefield beforehand.
I loved this.
Every Sunday home game theyhave have a catch on a field day
and we got it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That was a lot of fun .
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was a great time we got to go out there and
throw the ball around.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That was fun.
I enjoy that a lot.
There's pictures on theInstagram page, so that way, if
you guys want to take a lookunder the Ad Hoc Chronicles
Instagram page as well asBaseball by Design page, all
right, my friend.
Here's question number two All.
(06:49):
Question number two.
All right, give me a couple ofyour favorite baseball memories.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I know you have a bunch of these obviously.
There's a lot.
There was the time when, inLittle League, the last year I
played Little League I I hadaged out technically because of
the number of years I had played.
And then my parents went backto the little league and they
were like, guess what?
(07:11):
We lied to you like six yearsago and Paul's birthday is
actually August not September,and they were like desperate for
players.
And so they were like great,great Paul's eligible to play
another year, cause hell, yeah,yeah.
So I got to play another yearand that was the one and only
year that I was an all-star uhin for for wayne little league
(07:31):
in pennsylvania outside ofphilly, and in the all-star game
I hit a an extra innings doubleand scored the winning run uh
league, so that's one of myfavorite.
Uh, uh, yeah, I hit a gapper anduh scored the scored the
winning run later on in thatinning in extras, so that was
fun, but the two, well, I yes somany stories.
(07:56):
I was just on tv the other day.
By the way, this is hilarious.
My brother to tell my brother,the fancy lawyer, uh has long
had these really awesomePhillies tickets, correct.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm not jealous at all, by the way.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There was one period of time where these tickets were
directly behind home plate sothat you were on TV with every
single pitch.
In 2006, september 3rd 2006,ryan Howard hit three home runs
in one game to become the singleseason record holder for the
Phillies.
We were right behind home platefor that game and I was
(08:30):
watching the game the other dayand they decided they were going
to like flashback to thatmoment.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So here.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I am sitting on my sofa and they're like flashback
to Ryan Howard and I'm like,wait a minute.
That's me on TV watching thePhillies.
Wait a second I know that I knowthat guy, One of my other
favorites.
When I was in college in 1993,I was at the University of
Richmond and the Phillies wereabout to clinch the division and
(09:00):
some buddy of mine and I drovefrom Richmond to Philadelphia to
watch the Phillies play a veryimportant game against the
Atlanta Braves, who were then inthe National League West, not
the National League East, and itwas.
It wasn't the clincher, but itwas like it got them within like
a game or two of finallyclinching the East.
(09:21):
It was.
There was no question that theywere going to clinch, but it
was because they had like a 10,12 game lead over the Expos.
But like driving all the way upthere to Philly from Richmond
watching this game, goingabsolutely crazy, Mike Zimmer,
Tina Nancarrow, Melissa Casperand we all drove up there, saw
this game and then it turnedright around and drove back to
(09:47):
Richmond, got in at like threein the morning that night.
It was all totally worth it,I'd have to say.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
My absolute favorite memory, uh if you say world
series, I will kill you the gamethree of the 2022 world series,
phillies won seven.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Nothing.
I was there.
My dad, my brother and mynephew were also in the ballpark
, not sitting with us becausethey had different seats.
That you know, I've neverexperiencing.
I've never experienced anythingquite like that amount of noise
, that level of excitementwatching the Phillies take a two
games to one lead in the worldseries.
(10:22):
They would eventually lose thatworld series four games to two.
That was a bummer.
And then I know you guys allmake fun of me because I'm
always bringing up Japan, but Igot to say, going to Japan to
see two games in Osaka to seethe Hanshin Tigers, that's a
signature baseball experiencefor me.
It was incredible and I talkabout it all the time for a
reason.
I've never experienced anythingquite like that the singing,
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the music, the environment.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wait, you've been to Japan.
Enough with this, oh my God.
No, you know what, though?
I'm actually super jealous ofthe fact that you've actually
been to Japan to actually watchsome baseball in Japan, because
that's always been.
You know, you and me we talkedabout this.
It's been on a bucket list ofthe places that us, as baseball
fans, we should go and watch,right?
(11:05):
Yeah, I always say, go to theCaribbean, watch some baseball
in the Caribbean, which both ofus have done, obviously, me
being from Puerto Rico, and youwere in Puerto Rico watching the
Caribbean series, right?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Definitely here, and then Japan, and then also the
Midnight Sun game.
Those are places that peopleshould go to watch baseball.
So I still have not watchedmidnight sun, which we still got
to do our friend anna just wentthere for the second time
that's hard to believe yeah, Iknow we should, we should
definitely go uh, you knowwhat's on my bucket list too is
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the world baseball classic.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Love to get to a world baseball classic I've done
that yeah, where was that?
You went in?
Miami, right?
No, puerto rico.
Oh, you went to puerto rico.
Yep, yep, yep, so cool puertorico against spain.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And that was like I got lucky because we were
looking for tickets.
Obviously the most popular onewas puerto rico, dominican
republic, just because that'sjust a, you know, rivalry of
countries, right.
But let me tell you, it doesn'tmatter.
You're there and it's a party.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Baseball in Japan, baseball in Puerto Rico, in the
Caribbean, it's totallydifferent than baseball here in
the US.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, completelydifferent.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
When I go to a World Baseball Classic game, I would
like to go, ideally, somewhereoutside the continental United
States, right like so you'reseeing it in puerto rico.
That's super cool, you know,maybe like a game in mexico city
or something that would be cooltoo, you know as much as I want
to see a game, a world baseballclassic game, I'm not sure if
it would be the same going tolike chase field in arizona or
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like going to miami or somethinglike that I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, caribbean baseball series in Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I believe that I believe that that was unreal.
Yeah, that's what I wasthinking of when I thought you
went and saw it in Miami, right?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, that was a Caribbean baseball series which
is again for all.
Of you fans of baseball got togo and watch that.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Caribbean baseball series is all of the winter
league champions.
Right At the end of the season,all the champions, they get
together in what is called theCaribbean baseball series and
then then you are.
You know, you play a series,round Robin or whatever, how
they set it up each year, rightCause every every year it
changes.
At the end of it, one teambecomes the you know, the
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champion of all of the winterleagues.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So I saw Venezuela play Mexico in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Venezuela's a powerhouse.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, mexico is actually.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Mexico is gaining in popularity in.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, all right, my friend, are you ready for
question number three?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Question number three .
We're at three already.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
We are at three already.
Can you believe it?
This one, it goes by quick.
There's only five questions,guys.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
That's what the series used to be called was
five questions.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Five questions.
Right, baseball for fivequestions.
Whichever one you want to callit, I'm okay with this.
All right, give me a couple ofbaseball traditions or rituals
uh, you and I cannot wait forthis one.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Um well, every year we go to the jersey shore.
It is, uh, you know, one of myfavorite times a year.
That trip at the time of thisrecording is is coming up and my
brother will get.
He will collect as many ticketsas he can for all of us to go
together, and so we have a bunchof people who go to the
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Phillies games who, you know, mykids aren't necessarily the
biggest baseball fans in theworld, my, you know, my mom is
certainly not a big baseball fan, but it's just like a big, huge
family event, right, likeeverybody loves, going to the
phillies game together andsitting in my.
It's a treat because my brotherhas his like fancy seats and
everything.
(14:50):
So we will go there, we go,they we have access to like the
fancy restaurant.
That's only this the fancyticket holders have, and so we
get there and we'll, you knowwe'll.
We'll uh, load up on yinglingsand cheesesteaks and and my
parents will go to the salad bar.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Right, right, right, right, so that that to me is a.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Uh, you know, I don't know if that qualifies as a, as
a tradition, in the sort ofclassical sense.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The other one that's most definitely a tradition.
I mean it's every year you dothis right with your family here
for the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The other thing that we do is we're usually at the
Jersey Shore for the, for theAll-Star game, and so will my.
You know my brother will eitherorder like pizza from one of
the awesome pizza places thatthey have there.
My brother will like fire upthe grill and we'll do.
You know, burgers and corn onthe cob, and you know new jersey
corn on the cob, you can't beatit right like it's tomatoes and
(15:47):
corn on the cob it's the gardenstate for a reason.
Um, so we'll.
We'll watch the all-star gameon tv at the shore after, like,
a long day swimming in the ocean.
You know we'll have a couple ofhorrible.
have a couple of gin and tonicsand some chips and guac on the
roof and then we'll all watchthe uh, the all-star game.
One of my favorite stories fromwatching the all-star game at
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the shore was when my nephew,who was going to be a freshman
in college next year, he um,when he was real little, he's
like a, you know, a hugebaseball fan, huge sports fan
and we were watching the gameand they were introducing the
lineups and he was young enoughthat he was missing his two
front teeth, right Like his twofront teeth had come out at the
(16:29):
same time and they're panningfrom player to player to player
and he is naming the playersbefore the announcers name the
players, right?
So that's how good he was.
He was like the all-stars forevery team he was naming.
So that's how good he was, hewas like the all-stars for every
team he was naming.
And so they pan, they pan to aplayer and my nephew, like super
confidently, with no frontteeth, goes that's Yonath
(16:51):
Thethbedeth.
So I spent the rest of the gametrying to get Matthew to say
Yonath Thethbedeth.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No teeth.
So and then also the baseballtradition in my life, I mean the
.
You know we've establishedsomething of a tradition in the
last couple of years with thecurb rim meetup.
That's been a lot of fun.
That's three years.
For the last decade I have beendoing baseball palooza with my
college buddy friends.
We do four minor league gamesin four days.
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I used to think that that waslike a big deal until I got on
social media and saw the roadtrips that some other folks take
.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
We're talking to you, Eric Prophet.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Or mapping the path right, Like he does like 29
games in like 30 days with hisdad.
But the Baseballpalooza roadtrip, it's 10 guys, pretty much
the same 10 guys year after yearafter year, and it's just
amazing to me that, like thereare, you know, there are 10 of
us who have known each other for30 years at least, who all live
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in different parts of thecountry.
You know, we represent all fourtime zones in the continental
United States and all of them,every one of these these guys,
like every year, prioritizes I'mgonna do baseball palooza and
you know the guys make fun of mebecause I get like a little
excited about planning it andeverything.
Uh, but no right, but the, theroad trip that we take with that
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group is just it's so much funand I'll be honest, like, I used
to post about it on socialmedia and it reached a point
where I guess, you know, whenthe, when the podcast got,
became a little more popular andI got a little more followers,
that people would just startshowing up.
So I've actually stoppedposting about it because, like
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the dynamic of this, you knowthis group- you want it to be
with you, just you and yourbuddies.
Yeah, that's it it's theopposite of the curb room media
meetup.
Right, curb room media meetupis so much fun.
Come one, come all um and thenthe other.
Uh, more recent tradition thathas been a lot of fun is uh,
minor league baseball designerextraordinaire dan simon
(19:00):
gathered, gathered Anna DiTomasoand Ranger Amy and me, and
every year we do a differentpart of it's been mostly the
Southeast actually, now that Ithink about it, but-.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, you guys go to the Southeast a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Take a road trip with Dan Simon, who is a super
interesting and fun guy, andAnna DiTomaso, who we love.
You know that's another minorleague baseball.
So my minor league baseballroad trips are growing every
year between the CBM meetup, anaDanna Palooza and the baseball
Palooza, I'm doing a lot oftravel to get to minor league
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baseball games.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh God, what a horrible life.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Look, I know what I'm doing.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, I know right, I'm an adult, I can do this.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm a grown-ass man.
I'll take a minor leaguebaseball run.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm a grown man Do it live.
All right, you ready forquestion number four?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I am ready for question number four.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think these last two are really good and very
interesting.
That will get into the psycheof people of how they really
think about baseball.
How they really think aboutbaseball.
How has baseball changed yourlife?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, I think about, I mean, the main thing,
especially in my life right now.
I was thinking about thisyesterday, I think, before we
started recording.
I was telling you how mydaughter, maya, who is also
going to be a freshman incollege next year, challenged me
to name 100 baseball teams inthe 10 minute drive on the on
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the way back from our littleadventure that we were having
out paddle boarding at the, uhuh, horse tooth reservoir.
So we had 10 minutes and I forme to name a hundred baseball
teams and I was just like, allright, but what are we going to
do with the other eight minutesof this drive?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
True, story guys, this guy, he knows his baseball
but it was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know, honestly, for me and this is it's going to
sound sort of cliche, right,but, like the, the baseball
community is so important to me.
This group of friends that wehave made this community that
exists online with CurveBrimMedia, is hugely important to me
.
The friendship that you and Ihave, the friendship that we
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have with that core group offolks, the CBM crowd, that means
a lot to me.
You and I talk a lot outside ofthe world of baseball.
I know every time my phonerings at six o'clock in the
morning, either someone in myfamily has died or ed rivera
wants to check in and say hi.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I wake up.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So I wake you up so early uh, my college friends who
I do baseball palooza with, youknow it's these are.
You know these are friends I'vehad for 30 years.
But like the baseball paloozawith you know it's these are,
you know these are friends I'vehad for 30 years.
But like the baseball Paloozatrip, texting about baseball,
you know, I mean, my phone'sbeen sort of lighting up over
here because the Phillies beatthe Padres for nothing tonight
and you know it's that, thatcommunity that I have with my
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friends, the closeness that Ihave with with my family, like
my, you know, my brother, my dad, my nephew, we, you know we'll
text about the Phillies all thetime and we'll, you know it's
always something that we can, wecan talk about.
So, the, the memories, theconversations, the, the, the
looking forward to, you know,future baseball events, all of
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that is things I'm doing withpeople in my life that you know,
the people in my life who Ilove, and it it's.
You know, that baseball isabout so much more than just the
game, um, and then it's also,you know it's, it's the routine,
it's the ritual, right, like Icame home tonight, uh, before
you and I, you know, hopped onthis to record this episode I
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had the Phillies game on.
I was watching the Phillies andthe Phillies were winning 4-0
in the middle of the ninth and Ihad to turn the game off and
come record this, and it took meuntil just now to see that they
had won 4-0.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know you could have, just we could have waited.
You know, I have no issueswhatsoever with hey let me
finish the game real quick.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm like absolutely, you know full well that that is
a jinx.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
The phillies would have lost the game if I had said
let's delay our recording.
And, by the way, he does notbelieve in jinxes at all.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
There's no way no, what is this witchcraft?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
it's uh, it's ridiculous, it's silly oh my god
, there's no way that I wouldtake my jersey off and put it
back in the closet becausethey're losing.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Or sit on a different sofa, cushion or pace behind
the sofa.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Or tell my wife, during the middle of game six, I
believe, to stay in thebathroom because they were, you
know, scoring.
You know, while she was there,they were winning.
So I told her to go back.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
One of my proudest moments as a parent was in 2018,
when the Eagles were in theSuper Bowl against the Patriots.
My daughter Olivia realized itwas one of these back and forth
games, and my daughter Oliviarealized that when she was
watching, the Patriots scoredand when she was not watching,
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the Eagles scored.
And so in the fourth quarter ofthat game, for the entire
fourth quarter of that game, shestood with her back to the
television in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And I was like I'm so proud and I wanted to be like,
no, that's ridiculous.
Come watch, the Eagles aregoing to win the.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Superbowl no, no, no, no no.
Like you can't Listen.
We all know that fans, you know, is short for fanatic, yeah
Right, you know we have ourcrazy things, but you cannot go
against that, so do not test.
You know, with fate or here,that I mess with fate.
So Right, all right, my friend.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Here we go.
I can't believe we're alreadyhere.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I know it went by so quick.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I know, but that's how these episodes have been.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I do have a question for you?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, the one that you recorded with Kelly, episode
number three of this series didyou call it five questions, or
did you call it?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't know, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I, you know let's keep it going with five
questions.
Oh well, I was just going tosay I'm kind of proud to be the
first episode of baseball roots,baseball roots.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
All right, I'm first.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You are the first.
I was going to say somethingstupid, but I'm going to keep it
All right.
All right, Paul, my friend.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right, ed Rivera.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So why baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
That's the whole question.
Why baseball is the wholequestion?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
That's it.
Why baseball?
Why not all the sport rightLike?
Why baseball?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, yeah, well, I think this goes back to the
community thing that I was justtalking about.
Right, like I'm sure if I hadbeen born somewhere where soccer
was the sport or if I had beenborn into a family where it was
basketball, I actually was.
You know, for many years myvery close second favorite sport
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was college basketball.
Second favorite sport wascollege basketball.
My dad taught at Villanova andwhen I was 12 years old,
villanova very unexpectedly wonthe college basketball
championship in 1985 overGeorgetown 66 to 64 on April
Fool's Day.
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No but who's you know?
No one's going to remember that, Right?
No, no, certainly not.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
No 40 years later.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
So you know it's really goes back to, I think you
know the the having thiscommunity to share this
experience with.
You know, I wonder about thatsometimes.
I mean, I have friends who arelike big fans of British soccer,
right Like they're like man Ufans or whatever, and I
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certainly get that soccer is inits own right a beautiful,
nuanced sport.
I don't follow it closelybecause I don't have a team.
It wasn't part of the communitythat I grew up in.
You know college basketball Iliked because I, you know, my
dad taught there.
But like that sport has changedquite a bit.
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I follow the NFL.
I care a lot that the Eaglesjust won the Super Bowl.
Nothing compares to thePhiladelphia Phillies winning
the World Series in 2008,.
Right Like, there's just noexperience sports wise in my
lifetime that holds a candle tothat.
That matters the absolute mostand it's I think I want to feel
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that.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I want to feel you should.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
everyone deserves to feel that honestly, like there's
nothing quite like it and youprobably can relate, right,
because you had the cavaliersyep who won, uh, all those
browns championships inCleveland.
Like that's a big deal.
Sorry, what happened?
Thanks, is this still on?
Is this thing on?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but no, but like.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I mean, I think that's a pretty comparable thing
.
Right Like the Cavalierswinning for you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
That was an experience, that's a big deal
right, oh, it was a massive dealfor Cleveland.
We, which we haven't, you know,we haven't won a championship
in in such a long time, right,that it was like the the closest
thing that we got was theindians, right in 95, 97, you
know, six, like you know.
So there was like these, these,these moments, but it was for,
not because they never, theynever won.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, thanks, marlins , thanks waves, so so you have a
similar thing where it's likeyour city has experienced that,
but not your favorite sport,your favorite team, correct?
And I do have the Phillies in08, and that was amazing.
And I have the Eagles with twochampionships since 2018.
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So that's cool, right, likethat's.
I.
I do feel lucky to have gottento experience that.
I watched the highlights overand over again.
I mean, trust me, I, I live inthat.
But baseball, you know, any fanof any sport is going to wax
poetic about their, theirfavorite sport.
You know the sounds, the, thesites, the, the dimensions, the
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sort of perfect moments.
And you know the sounds, thesights, the dimensions, the sort
of perfect moments.
And you know baseball, baseballis all of that for me.
I had the experience recently ofgoing to a Rockies game with
Eric the peanut guy, who wasvisiting Colorado.
He and his wife, carina, werein town for a wedding, and so we
we got to spend a day togetherand we had these awesome seats
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right behind the first basedugout and then, after, like the
third inning, eric's like okay,it's time to go wandering and
we like we.
You know the Rockies field.
Obviously it has an openconcourse and so you can follow
the game while you're wandering,but we, like, wandered the
concourse.
We went up to the rooftop bar.
We ended up in the purple rowof a mile high above above sea
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level, ended up in the very toprow in the outfield.
Mind you, we had seats 20 rowsbehind first base and by the end
of the game.
We're like at the top rowbecause it's just such a
beautiful game, right, like thedimensions, the aesthetics, the
ballpark itself is so beautifuland you know, I always feel a
little, you know, like I alwayswant to say like baseball is
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objectively the most beautifulsport, it's the most
aesthetically pleasing from asound perspective, from a visual
perspective, from a dimensionsperspective.
Oh, you know, and I'm sure anyfan of any sport is going to say
that about their own sport.
Um, you know, I've beenwatching.
Welcome to Rexham.
Uh, on uh yeah, and it's.
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It's sort of cool to see peoplewho are as passionate about you
know their sport as as I amabout baseball.
But one of the funny thingsthat was, um, that I was really
enjoying.
My daughter, maya, was with usthat day with Eric, uh, and
Karina, and Ranger Amy was theretoo, and we we went to, uh, we
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went to a couple of sort ofhistorical baseball sites and
and Maya was just enjoying beingalong for the ride and she said
, uh, later on I was just likeMaya, is this all like a little
insane for you?
And she said, you know whatshe's like.
I really enjoy seeing peoplewho are this passionate about
anything, and let alone two ofthem in the same room, and I'm
like, well, man, you should havebeen at the cookout that Kelly
(31:02):
Robinson had for us, you know,because it was all people like
that, right.
It was all of us, and so I thinkthat's, that's the short answer
to how come baseball right?
Like is this community, thecommunity I grew up with, my
college friends, who I take thebaseball palooza trip with.
All of that, you know,reinforces my belief that you
know my own personal opinionthat baseball is the most
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aesthetically beautiful sportand the rules themselves lend
themselves to these incrediblytense, amazing athletic moments
that, in my mind, the othersports just can't quite
replicate 90 feet, right?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You know how do you even quantify that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I mean, that's just yeah that's how it is right and
to see the plays that areroutine for the major leaguers,
you know the game at its highestlevel, the, the plays that are
routine, versus the plays thatare not routine.
Correct, as you get furtherdown the, the, the rings of, you
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know, or the the levels of playthe other thing that I think is
you know, right, yeah, you'replaying.
You're playing sandlot ball nowand I think that's super cool,
um, but you can the.
The other thing that I think isis really beautiful about
baseball that the other sportsin many ways do not have is the
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levels, the classifications thatyou can go experience as a fan.
I mean, the NBA has the Gleague, but who really you know
who's taking G league road tripsout there?
Speaker 1 (32:40):
right.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Football, you really have the pros, and then you have
college and maybe you have,like I don't know, arena
football or whatever.
I guess soccer really, you knowyou've got the levels of soccer
with the promotion.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, you got USL, and so you've got different
levels.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But being able to go see baseball as a fan at AAA, aa
, high, a single, a independentcollegiate summer level, like I
mean, all those different levelsof baseball and seeing how the
nuances change from level tolevel it is, is really
incredible.
I have pioneer league baseball,used to have pioneer league,
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pioneer league baseball close tome here.
Uh, as of this afternoon, atthe time in this recording, the
owls with a z are no more, soI've got to go a couple hours
down to colorado springs now tosee, uh, pioneer baseball.
You can't say ils with a z areno more, so I've got to go a
couple hours down to coloradosprings now to see a pioneer
baseball you can't say I waswith a z anymore I can't, I
can't, uh, but like that leagueis a an mlb partner league.
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the moment a pitcher learns howto throw anything other than a
fastball, they get snatched upand signed to an affiliated
team's system, and so what thatmeans is you've got all these
teams out in the mountain timezone with pitchers who can only
throw fastballs, which meansthat every single game is going
to end in a score of 15 to 12because it's all fastballs.
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It's high elevation and that'slike a beautiful nuance about
this game.
You know it's.
You know that that one littledetail right there completely
changes it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
So you can definitely tell the level of the player's
ability.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Sometimes between indie ball and affiliated like
the say double, a triple, aright Like major leagues yeah.
It's there's a.
There's a contrast leagues.
Yeah, it's there's a.
There's a contrast here.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, there's a yeah yeah you can definitely tell
and then the the flip side ofthat is and you're gonna laugh
at me and I know pat larson isgonna make this joke as well but
when we were in japan, uh,watching japanese baseball, it
was contact hitters, it was slaphitters, it was trying to
manufacture runs.
I actually subscribed to theHanjin Tigers streaming service
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and you know, and I'll put theoften those games happen
overnight.
But I'll get up in the morningand I'll sometimes like with my
coffee, I'll put on the previousnight's game just to watch a
little bit, totally fun.
But man, man, like, if a teamhas a two nothing lead in the
sixth inning, that game feelsover.
You know it's like, you knowyou how, how in the world are
(35:14):
you going to score three runs towin a game now?
And uh, it's just totallydifferent, totally, totally
different.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Still every bit as good, but totally different you
know the the way that baseballis looked at in different parts
of the world is fascinating andthat's a conversation obviously
for another podcast, right, yeah, for sure.
But it's fascinating to see,like, the level of detail that
(35:45):
in Japan they pay attention tocertain things rather than here
in the us and that's okay I meanthere's no, there's no right or
wrong.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Right like I mean, it's just that you can play
baseball however you want yeah,but in japan, if you're, if
you're down one and you get thelead off, runner on, I guarantee
you there's a sacrifice buntcoming, whereas in major league
baseball they're trying to getaway for the rally with the
field.
Yeah, yeah, exactly they're.
They're playing for the rally,they're playing for the big hit,
and it's just, you know, andit's not to say one's better
(36:14):
than the other, but man, it'sfascinating to watch.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
I'm a fan of you know the sacrifice.
I'm a fan of a small ball, sothere's that.
Yeah, my friend, my friend,thank you so much for doing this
.
Obviously, I knew a lot of thisstuff already beforehand, just
because we do talk all the timeand obviously we're both massive
(36:38):
fans of the sport of baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
But where can people find you on the socials?
Well, I am on, largely I wouldsay, instagram, and threads and
blue sky are probably the onesI'm on the most, and those are
all at baseball by design.
Um, you can also follow mywriting.
I write for the website sportslogosnet.
That's been since 2014.
So that's been fun to uh to dothat.
(37:06):
Yeah, so uh, but then also thepodcast itself.
Anywhere you listen to podcasts, it's baseball by design and uh
, that has been a really funpassion project and I've gotten
to meet so many interestingpeople through it, so it's a ton
of fun.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, and make sure you guys follow the data
chronicles on uh blue sky onthreads Instagram.
Uh, the Dead High Chronicles onBlue Sky on Threads Instagram,
youtube, heck, even Facebook aswell.
On Tuesdays and Thursdays, 9 pmEastern time is the Dead High
Chronicles Sports Show.
Okay, paul, don't forget.
9 pm Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Tuesdays and Thursdays 7 o'clock.
Fake mountain time.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
The time zone that doesn't exist.
That's correct.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Ed, did you order yourself a moon?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
mammoth's hat.
Today I have not.
Okay, I'm very close.
I love the logo that will bediscussed again on a Tuesday of
the Dead Hat Chronicles SportsShow, just so you guys know.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
I placed my pre-order .
I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Again, make sure you guys are following corporate
media.
We are again on all socials anduntil then, guys keep on
playing baseball and support theminor leagues.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Thanks, ed, okay, bye .
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