Baja 500 Recap - Toby Price, Justin Davis, Cayden MacCachren, Polvoorde, & More - The Dirt Life

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, what's up guys?
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
I'm your host, george Hamill.
Today we've got an awesome show.
We're going to have a Baja 500recap.
Ryan Edwards is going to joinfrom Vision Wheel.
He's going to co-host the showwith me.
Let me see here.
We've got some serious talenton this show.
So Toby Price, paul Wheel's notgoing to be able to join us,

(00:33):
unfortunately, but Joe Whitingis going to talk about a little
bit of behind the scenes stuff,so that'll be cool.
Let me get Ryan on here so hecan talk about some Baja stuff
as well.
Let's see here Some otherguests Caden McCackering he was
the UTV Unlimited winner in hisPolaris Razor, with Haley Hine

(00:55):
in the co-driver's seat.
Justin Davis and Dan Eckert aregoing to join us.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Ryan, what's up?
What's up.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
What are you up to?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
You know, just living my best life.
How's my camera angle there?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
don't know You're going to have to get down, get
low.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh shit, all right, hold on.
What if I go like this?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh, there we go, while you figure out your
technical difficulties.
I'll finish the intro stuff.
So, Justin Davis, the GreenArmy is going to join us.
Dan Eck, Christopher Polvortiyou know that, dude, don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, and Justin Davis, big, big Green.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Army guy.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Big Green Army guy.
Let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Brian Moore.
He's going to join us talk alittle bit about the media stuff
, the Terribles flying around ina helicopter, ethan Ebert and
Jeff Proctor they had a prettygood showing down in Mexico too.
They were ripping Dude, he waskilling it right.

(01:50):
And then Evastar racing is goingto join us, uh as well.
So, uh, it'll be pretty cool totalk with all those guys.
Uh, let's get joe whining anduh toby price on here real quick
.
Dude, toby was on one.
He dude, he like he qualifiedfirst.
Everything that he did they putit all together.
Yeah, like on point for thewhole weekend, right, yeah, okay

(02:11):
, so let's get Joe and Toby on.
We'll talk about it.
See how those guys are doingToby.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
Price.
What's up?
What's happening, guys?
What's happening?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Joe Whiting.
What's happening?
Dude?
Hey Toby.
Hey Joe Georgie.
What's happening?
Dude?
Hey Toves.
Hey Jack Georgie.
What's up?
Dude?
You guys both know Ryan Edwardsas well.
Yeah, how you doing.

Speaker 9 (02:32):
How you doing, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So Baja 500.
Ryan and I were just likebarely talking about it, but
Baja 500.
I don't know if you could haveexecuted any better, toby.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
Finally, finally, one went to plan.
We've been able to execute thequalifying side of things quite
well for us all last year andthis year, but, yeah, it's just
been that second piece of thepuzzle that just hasn't gone to
plan.
And finally, yeah, got it torun smooth and, yeah, the BFG

(03:05):
Ridge tyres.
We had no flats all day andpassed the truck off to Paul at
360.
And then, yeah, paul did anamazing job as well and yeah,
brought it in at the finish line.
So it was, yeah, the Menziesmotorsport crew looked after us
there with all our pits andeverything and done a great job
with us, getting us in and outreally quick, and it was a

(03:27):
perfect uh, perfect executed day.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So we're stoked yeah, for sure, joe.
Was there any changes that youguys made to?
I don't know to execute likethat?

Speaker 9 (03:37):
no, not really.
Um, we kind of stuck with thesame plan.
We just just finally had Masonput a little bit of extra love
into the prep of the truck andgot us a really good truck and
we recently bought Brent Bauman.
He came aboard with us to dosome Navion with Paul and Toby

(03:58):
and that kid every single nightdoing notes and working on notes
and looking at this and doingthat and he, he hardly ever
slept that's huge he's, he's ahuge part of that game.
You know him and toby and paul.
They're all on the same pageand, uh, there's a lot of work
that goes into this pre-run andtrying to find the best lines

(04:20):
throughout the course and hitall the vcps and all the speed
zones and it's a lot of work.
And I say brent really steppedup.
He did a killer job doing it,along with, of course, toby and
paul just behind the steeringwheels.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Great right now you can like talk about putting all
that together right like you got.
Qualifying is super importantin trophy truck now because it's
so tight, right.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, and then pre-running, pre-running in the
trophy truck game.
If you're not racing the lastcouple days around the course to
figure out the course, you'renot even going to be in the top
ten.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
What is that Like?
How does that?
Actually work out, then Toby,Like what do you guys do on the
last couple days of pre-running?
Like Ryan said, yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
So basically, yeah, we get over probably a week, a
week and a half earlier to therace.
We just go to the shop and geteverything set up, loaded up,
ready to go.
We have about probably 10people that fly from Australia
and then including some people,so it's probably about seven,
eight people that fly fromAustralia and then, yeah, we

(05:22):
have a couple of mexicans thathelp out with everything.
Um, and then, yeah, the biggestchange here we made this year
was, well, for this race, we hadbrent in the truck with us and
then also including joe um beingbasically head of everything
for us to um, control everything.
So, um, yeah, I think those twobits there have, um, yeah, been

(05:43):
quite a big change for us andmade a big difference.
But, yeah, the pre-running partof it you're out every day for
my section was 360 miles, so Iwas out basically full days
every day.
Those are the longest days,yeah, the longest days, them
ones.
So we're just trying to getevery bit of the notes we could.
And then, virtually straightafter qualifying, still, we went

(06:07):
straight out on the track, donesome more pre-running and then
started to finalise some notesof some areas we thought was
going to open up and make somelines and something different.
And yeah, and then even thelast day before the race, we
were still out doing a bit ofpre-running in the morning and
then just trying to rest up.
The race.
It's um, yeah, yeah, it's a big, big task.

(06:27):
Uh, a lot of people yeah, likeeveryone hears it all the time
but they, um, yeah, the work andthe effort that goes in behind
the scenes of it all, it's uh,actually it's, it's massive so,
on the pre-running to race, like, did you finally connect it all
to where you're like?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
all right, now I know I can take these lines and
everything's just like dialed,instead of just out there racing
.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Yeah, for sure it's.
It's always just trying to,yeah, find new lines and find
new areas.
That more so sometimes probablymay not be as quick for the
race, but it's a lot smootherand a lot cleaner.
So sometimes, yeah, you mighttake a line, it feels a bit
slower and sometimes is, butit's just.

(07:11):
It's a lot easier on the truckthat it just doesn't beat the
thing.
You've got a 500 mile race tobasically compete and, um, yeah
it, even though these trucks areworth a million dollars, um,
they still break.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
So it's uh, it's crazy yeah, and, as you know,
one bolt could take you out ofit.
Yeah, don't want to bring it upyeah, so I felt pretty bad.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
It's uh, it's been looking pretty average on my
side that uh, I haven't beenable to deliver a truck to the
owner, paul wheel, and uh, yeah,that was, uh, that was.
The most satisfying part wasbeing able to give the truck to
Paul and a pretty good, healthyshape, and, um, paul executed
perfectly as well.
So, uh, yeah, unreal, unreal.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Does that make you guys think about like uh?
I don't know Everybody wants tothink about the future.
You always have your debrief andyou're like how can we get
better, even if you win right,like does that make you guys
think about that, that wholesmooth comment that you made
like they're smooth on the trackand there's also smooth in all
the prep and the process andeverything that goes on behind
the scenes does it make youthink about those little tiny

(08:15):
details to make everythingbetter for the next time?
Like the 400, the thousand?

Speaker 7 (08:20):
ah, for sure it's um.
Like you say, we had afairytale run at this one and
there's no guarantees that the400 will turn into the same.
So, yeah, it's a little bit ofchaos sometimes and, sorry, I've
got a dog going off in thebackground here at the moment a
Watson, but yeah, he's.
Yeah, it's always hard to knowwhat the race is going to bring,

(08:41):
but we always learn little bitsand pieces along the way and
something that's going to help alot more to, yeah, get ready
for the 400 and be stronger andfaster there as well.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, because it's just going to get faster for
that one.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah, it's going to be a little bit faster pace, a
little bit shorter distance race, so the pace will lift a little
bit because the trucks can kindof handle the 300, 400 miles,
no problem.
So it's um basically, yeah,just we're gonna have to try and
just uh, stay smooth,consistent, um, probably be
faster and um, yeah, go fromthere well qualifying is like.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Is that much more important?
Right, joe?
Because, like you, you onlyhave a certain amount of time to
execute and the mileage isgoing to be shorter.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
Correct, correct, like I say we would between
Brent and I, we would switch offpre-run and I'd pre-run with
Paul one day and then I'd swapand pre-run with Toby the next
day, and the whole time we'redoing that.
I'm looking at access, roadsand ways to access, and we're
also getting intel on okay, well, this is a bad section for

(09:45):
rocks, so I need to have a tirein this area or I need to have a
crew over here.
Which is nice about the mexicoraces is we can do that.
Yeah, we can pit wherever theheck we want to.
Really, um, so, being able topre-run and, same time, look at
all these access points uh,that's just part of it, too,
making sure that, hey, this isan area where there's a possible

(10:08):
flat.
We need to have a crew who aresitting here.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
You know what I mean it's kind of crazy to think
about that too, because, likeyou know how, like, if you put
away the wrench, you need itfive seconds later if, if you
leave a tire out, on courseyou're not going to get a flat
there.
So it's like if you leave atire out, on course you're not
going to get a flat there.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
So it's like bringing good luck to yourself, exactly.
And, like you say, we had crewshopscotching all day long
between the three of us.
We had three different chasetrucks and, like I say, toby
managed the tires and managedthe truck and everything was
great.
But who's to say that's notgoing to happen next time?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
so we just keep implementing and and take the
pros and the cons and focus onthe cons and see if we can't
make it better for next round.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, the game is getting sotight, toby, like I don't even
know how to explain it because,like, I ask everybody the same
question like does it change theway that you deal with the race
, or do you just go balls on thewall?

Speaker 7 (11:06):
yeah, uh, yeah, it doesn't really change the way we
approach the race, but, yeah,like I say, uh, a flat tire can
cost you the race.
Um, it's, it's minor littlethings these days that are
really bringing the whole, thewhole thing unstuck, and it
doesn't matter how much moneyyou throw at it.
Um, it doesn't guarantee younothing in this sport and that's
the hardest bit to take.

(11:27):
Yeah, from our very first Baja1000, where we burned a
million-dollar truck to theground, until, yeah, basically
going through a whole year offailures and not really
achieving what we wanted.
It was, yeah, definitely toughon Paul to try and keep
accepting that and coming back,but, yeah, finally being able to

(11:48):
get that monkey off our backand get that 500 win was
something pretty special.
And, yeah, I think, yeah, we'rethe first Australians to win
overall in a score championshiprace.
Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
You went in history books again.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Yeah, we'll claim that as much as we can.
I, um, I'm waking up with thattrophy sitting right next to me
every morning because it's, uh,it's been a very damn hard one
to get.
So, uh, yeah, that's awesome.
But, um, yeah, the competitionis just crazy.
Like you say, you've got chrisbavardi coming in, young, um, up
and coming talent that, yeah,I'm sure in many years to come
he's going to be only strongerand faster.

(12:28):
And then you've got Bryce andMcMillan's.
Those guys are just, yeah,basically second to none to what
they're doing.
And then, yeah, we werefighting with Tavo, basically to
the finish line, and everyoneknows what that guy's like he's
a madman.
And, sorry, I had some nervesgoing when, um, when I climbed
out I think we only had a threeminute 40 gap, I think over

(12:48):
tarbo and I was like, oh, Ididn't quite give paul enough
leg room there and, yeah, hestretched it out actually and
what was the the gap by that?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
the final gap?

Speaker 7 (12:59):
I never, yeah, I think the solid, I think, just
shy of seven minutes orsomething.
That's crazy, pretty crazy.
Like I say, seven minutes, ithasn't happened like that for a
little while.
Like I say, you've watched thebattles between Luke and Bryce
and they're coming down to 43seconds at the finish line, and
it's not to say that it won't belike that at the 400, but it's

(13:21):
yeah to get that run we hadthere.
Like I say, we just had a good,flawless, clean run.
We did our homework, likeeveryone else does, and yeah,
unfortunately just some littlethings played into their hands
that didn't pan out for them,but it worked out in our favor
and yeah, we'll learn from it.
We'll come back for the 400 andbe ready and see if we can try

(13:43):
and back another win up.
It'll be unreal.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Like I was walking past you doing some of the live
broadcast stuff at score and Iwas walking past you as you were
, you know, talking to the fansand you had finished and I don't
want to say I can see theemotion on your face but I kind
of could.
Right Like I.
It looked like it was a relief.
It looked like like Toby waslike Toby right Like fuck, we
got this thing off our back Likeit's good, like, and you were
really happy.

(14:06):
I mean, you had a smile ear toear Like it was good.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Man, it's crazy to think about it.
It's like I haven't done fullseasons over here, but I've been
coming over since probably2016,.
Starting with Jesse Jones.
Then that's how I met Joethrough that program and then
I've done numerous races hereand, yeah, to be, over the years

(14:34):
, gradually getting the grasp ofeverything and understanding of
the trucks and knowing howquick I can actually drive these
things and it's there wasdefinitely a lot of weight
lifted off the shoulders.
Yeah, some people don't realiseyou do read a lot of the
comments of things that are likeah, he's a bike guy, he's too
hard on the truck, he's justbreaking it and he's just being
a clown and being an idiot andit's like man, okay, if I could
treat a truck any nicer.

(14:55):
The thing should be able to do3,000 miles, but it's just one
of them things.
You always have those peoplejust, yeah, cruise along and all
those things, but you, yeah, tojust get that monkey off our
back.
That felt amazing.
And just to be able to hold atrophy for a finish line was
unreal Like, let alone trying tohold that finisher's plaque.

(15:17):
That's a task in itself, butactually the number one trophy
was, yeah, mind-blowing.
So I was pretty relieved,really stoked, and yeah, I think
I still haven't stopped smilingsince that day.
So it's been cool.
Yeah, it's been super cool Joe.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
like he's been saying honest and accountable stuff
this whole time.
Right, like Toby knows what hewent through for everything to
get to that point of winning therace.
Like and you see it in his youknow smile and you see the work
ethic and stuff going back Likeit must've been fun for the crew
to see him cross the finishline and Paul cross the finish
line, you know first.

Speaker 9 (15:55):
Yeah, no, for sure it was.
As you know, there's so muchwork that goes into it to
prepare for it.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, to get, get well, toget to the finish line, yeah,
first step, you know, and then,not alone, in the fashion that
we were able to do it, it wasgood, it was really good, we
were all super happy and, uh,and, like I said, with the

(16:17):
exception of menzies doing ourfuel and tires for us at two
pits, all we had was 10 of us.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It was that, and was that the first time you guys
used menzies for pits?

Speaker 9 (16:29):
no, we used them up in san felipe oh okay, um, and
they do an outstanding job.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
To be honest, those guys are.

Speaker 9 (16:35):
They've been doing it forever and they're serious
about it and fortunately wehaven't come in right behind,
right in front of right stackedon, stacked on top of each other
, but it's going to happen andwe'll just make the best we can
out of it.
But yeah, no, it's been, it'sbeen good it was, it was good to
get there finally.

Speaker 7 (16:56):
That's a big credit to Steve and Bryce as well, like
, yeah, to accept us into thatwhole program and yeah,
especially since you're acontender you know what I mean,
since we've been a contender andthey've known we've been a
contender for probably the lastfew races yeah, when we
basically said the only way tobe able to try and get this to
work is by bringing in a full,proper, professional team that

(17:19):
does the pit service all thetime and practice these things,
they know the truck too.
It's the same truck.
So, yeah, they know the truckreally well.
So, yeah, they ticked all theboxes for us and, yeah, we
thought we were dreaming when wewere asking and then when they
turned around and said, yep, no,worries, we can make this work,

(17:41):
it kind of blew us, blew usaway and uh, yeah, they've been
a big part of being able to getthis, this first win for us as
well.
So it's um massive big creditto them and um, yeah, can't
thank the menzies guys enoughfor it.
It's it's unreal that's cool.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, it's super cool .
What was some of the likehighlights of the race for you?
I wish we could ask paul.
I talked to him a littleearlier today.
He was doing the equestrianhorse thing with his daughter.
It seems super cool.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah, I think he's over in Germany somewhere now.
So, yeah, I've just been at theshop just cleaning some things
up bits and pieces.
But yeah, look honestly, yeah,just the normal like Mexico
stuff that really goes on Likethere's almost had a head-on
with a car, um, up throughmike's sky ranch, which was a

(18:27):
little bit of a hairy one.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
yeah, um, yeah, I saw a good video you going around
the local traffic.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
That was pretty good yeah traffic there and um, man,
it's just crazy.
It's like they know we'recoming through and it's just um.
Yeah, I know, everyday lifestuff happens and everything,
but it's just um, these are sixthousand pound trucks.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
I got a question for you, since you're a bike guy.
When you started catching thebikes, like what's going through
your head?

Speaker 7 (18:54):
ah, look honestly, I know 100 what it would be like
on that bike.
Um I my section was really goodlike um, because you were at
the beginning.
yeah, yeah, we, we did thebeginning section of it.
So every bike rider we had like, yeah, look, I gave them plenty
of room because I know, havingthat thing behind you and 1,000
horsepower and just that bigheavy truck, it's just, I gave

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them plenty of room.
Yeah, there was a couple thatPaul said that decided to look
back and then think that theycould beat a trophy truck and
stay in front of one and andthen pass them back onto it and
he was like man, that gets alittle bit annoying, cause like
we're in a heated battle withTavo and trying to trying to him
.
And we understand too, they'rein a, they're probably in a

(19:38):
heated battle and race as well.
So it's, it's, it's a little bitof a tough one, but yeah for
sure it would be anerve-wracking time for any guy
on a motorcycle, and probablymotorcycles.
That being a bike guy.
But I'm probably glad I'm noton a motorcycle because at the
end of the day I think if I wasgetting caught by a trophy truck
, I've had a really bad day.
So it's not to say my speed'sout of control and perfect, but

(20:02):
yeah, I'd like to be staying infront of the truck, that's true,
yeah dude.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, it's so wild, joe.
Was there anything that youguys had to do special, uh,
behind the scenes, to make surethat the truck got to the finish
line first?

Speaker 9 (20:13):
you know, no, not really after qualifying.
Um, uh, robert and neil masonhad came over to our little
compound there and insinata andthe three of us worked on the
truck together, just kind oftidied things up and made sure
it was happy and yeah, we justhad a good truck.
We had a great truck and, likeI say, toby was able to manage

(20:35):
it.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
And yeah, like I say, really, we had a couple little
issues throughout the day, butBrent was able to adjust it on
the fly and and kept theskeleton thing up well, we, we
talked about it before and Iasked this question to most of
the professional guys, evenmenzies and all those guys but
like qualifying is so importantnow, like I feel like desert

(20:59):
racing, like it didn't used tobe like this.
Right now I feel like it's likeimso or like supercross
Qualifying is everything.
Does it feel like that to youguys too?

Speaker 9 (21:08):
For sure.
No qualifying is huge.
I can say this was the firsttime in a long time pretty much
opening up the road, so there'ssome extra nerves there because
the dust is settled from thebike guys and cattle has
wandered back out onto thecourse and people are trying to

(21:29):
drive to their spot where theywant to come through.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
There's no dust to catch either.
You can't get excited and goafter somebody.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Correct.
And it's just you don't know.
You know you come over a hilland you don't know what to
expect.
Like you say, a cow, horse,goats.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
So it's a little, it was a little nerve-wracking, but
uh, yeah, I say it's just, it'sthere's no dust, so that's good
does that put more pressure onyou, toby yeah, for us it's nice
to have no dust, for sure, and,um, for sure it's that the
pressure is always there onqualifying day because you
pretty much have to run at 99.9%in that whole lap to be in that

(22:09):
probably top 10 group.
But, like I say, I think if youcan be in that top four, top
five group, you've got a reallygood chance of being able to do
well in the race.
Doesn't necessarily mean youneed to be out in front straight
off this, off the bat, becauseI guess, um, as joe was saying,
you deal with a lot of extrastuff that, um, yeah, cows

(22:32):
wandering back on the track andum, and, and everybody probably
shifting another spot to try andget to another place to watch
from or something, and um, yeah,to deal with that straight off,
uh, straight up it.
It's definitely difficult and alot more to manage, but at the
end of the day we can see what'sin front of us, which is
sometimes a bit of a help.
Like it's just scary whenyou're passing people actually

(22:55):
on the race course, driving therace course, and you're like,
well, a truck 20 seconds behindme off my back door and driving
in the dust Like it's, you'renot going to see them.
You're not gonna see him andyou're in a pretty high risk of,
um, yeah, either hurtingsomebody else or hurting another
racer and it's like so, yeah,you you're a little nervous on

(23:15):
that, but yeah, you, you've gotthat clean air and that fresh
run.
Um, it definitely makes the joba little easier to not get any
flat tires and stuff like that.
So it's, um, yeah, a big helpfor sure.
But we, we enjoy the qualifying.
I love to be able to um, getone that, uh, joe gibbs engine
out um to about 8 000 rpm andlet it sink and um, yeah, get

(23:37):
back as quick as we can yeah,that was funny too, like we,
ryan and I were sitting therequalifying.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
He just pulled up and I was talking to joe on the
starting line while you guyswere in the truck.
And I go, I'm just going tostand over there by the rear
tire and just watch it eat dude,Just eat it up.
It did look pretty cool.
Is it easy to knock out thosequalifying laps like that?
Because I feel like, with theway that everybody's been
driving, because what was it?

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Just a few seconds between you and I think it was
10 seconds dude like between thetop five, that's like Moto,
shit right.
Like you've got to be on pointyeah 100%.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
You've got to be on point with that qualifying lap
and, yeah, I think we had justshy of three seconds over Alan,
which he won the San Felipe 250race.
We're in a good battle with him, so he's um definitely on the
move in the qualifyings, andthat now.
And um, yeah, we were able to,yeah, get it up the front, which

(24:32):
was, which was nice, but it'sum, yeah, you, you can't make a
mistake and that's uh, that'sprobably the most pressure of
the whole weekend, because youcan um make one little mistake
and if the truck's upside down,you really have to start right.
And uh, robert and neil, uh,well, robert preps our truck for
us at um at mason, which is uhsuper helpful as well.
I'm sure he wouldn't be toopumped uh, doing a late night

(24:55):
over at our place, uh, trying toput the truck back into shape
and also well, so it's um, yeah,it's definitely um one one
place.
You can uh really lose thewhole weekend to be a good
weekend, but, um, you need to beat near that front and you need
to be on the gas and um, yeah,trying to give it the best start
that you can possibly get oneof the things that I was

(25:16):
thinking about that's like, uh,I don't want to say you have an
advantage, but you kind of doright, like coming from moto,
the, the qualifying, some guysthat race desert, right, it
takes them an hour to get goingright like it's they got to get
warmed up, they got to get goingand for that qualifying, like
you got to be like millisecondsor like right on point yeah,
it's like supergross, like you just got to go

(25:37):
all in 100 percent.
That's, um, the biggest thing.
Yeah, you got.
You got to flick that switch,um, and go from being cool, calm
, collected to basically wideopen and full gas in a matter of
split seconds.
And coming from the motorcyclebackground, I think that
definitely helps us a fair bitas well, because on a motorcycle

(25:58):
it's life or death sometimesand you can really really injure
yourself if you're not on pointand just, yeah, clicking every
single time and yeah, that'slike at the San Felipe race.
I just didn't feel like Iclicked too well, so we took a
bit of a conservative run thereand we still end up being third.
But yeah, that day there I felton point, I liked that area

(26:20):
where we qualify and yeah,everything just seemed to match
in perfect and, uh, as soon asyou cross that line, you, uh,
you try and flick that switchoff as quickly as you can and
save some energy for, uh, forthe race day.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
but I mean really like, and how fast you guys are
going being able.
Like you said, san felipe, youweren't feeling it and you were
able to back it down a littlebit and not go out and do
something dumb.
That's what put you in theposition you're in.
You know you could have wentout and hung it out and did some
stupid mess up the truck andyou'd have been going backwards,
you know exactly, that's rightand I think that just comes from

(26:54):
the motorcycle background alittle bit.

Speaker 7 (26:56):
It's um, some days you're a days and some are not,
and um, yeah, just that, thatqualifying didn't feel that
great.
So I was like, well, let's justbring a good truck in, we'll
bring it in a good position.
I know I can be in the top fiveside.
As long as we can be in there,we'll have a good chance.
And yeah, we were runningreally good at San Felipe 250
and caught up to the back ofAlan.

(27:17):
I knew I didn't have to passhim so I was just sitting out
the back of his dust making surewe didn't get a flat tire and
then, um, yeah, one silly, uhhundred dollar bolt seeing
himself and, um, that's it doneon dust.
So it's uh, yeah, but it's um,it's yeah.
Sometimes it's a love-haterelationship with this sport.
Sometimes it's um, sometimesgood to you and sometimes bad

(27:39):
hey.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
So we get a lot of positive comments and stuff like
that.
It made me think of, uh, someof the younger people that are
obviously fans of yours, and Ialways like to ask people this,
because you can provide a lot ofmotivation and a lot of
guidance to a lot of theseyounger drivers that are out
there.
There's a lot of kids racingutvs now, you know, anywhere
from 12 years old all the way upto, you know, 20 in their
mid-20s.
What's something that you wouldtell them to do like you've

(28:03):
said a couple of times here islike keep your brain or keep
your wits about you during therace.
Like what's some advice thatyou would give to these kids to
be able to be in a Toby Priceposition in the future?

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah, for me it's always just dream big, yeah, and
take every opportunity withboth hands.
It's yeah, there's like,there's some days it's um, it's,
it's, it's nice to win, forsure.
But just some days these thingsdon't click and when you can
kind of, yeah, remember how thatfeels that these days aren't
clicking, um, yeah, it's therethe day you just gotta maybe

(28:38):
back it down a little bit, um,chase some championship points
and and and look after it and um, yeah, it's.
It's definitely a difficultthing, but it's.
It's great to see so many youngkids coming through and
following um in my footstepswith motorcycles and hopefully
now with with some car stuff anduh, but yeah, it's just um,
keep at it, um, don't give up onit.

(28:59):
And yeah, it's, it's hard work,it's um, it it's not all handed
to you on a silver platter andactually, yeah, you do the work
and yeah, good things will come,and that's what I've always
kind of ran by.
And, as long as you're good tothe fans that support you, yeah,
the sport will love you backand keep you going.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yeah, 100%.
Joe, I think you agree withthat too.
Right Like you don't have to bethe racer, you can also be a
crew guy.
But you got to have that nevergive up attitude, like toby said
yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
You can't.
You know, even after after thisbaja 500 win, after the dust
settled for a couple days, youknow, and the crew was still in
america on stateside, we allkind of got together and what,
what happened and how did thisgo and what do we need to change
?
And, like I said, you can'tgive up, you gotta keep.
You gotta keep pushing forwardand everybody else is pushing,

(29:51):
so you gotta keep one step aheadif you can.
And that's like say, just justkeep, keep moving forward.
It ain't easy, there's no doubtabout it.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Speaking speaking of moving forward toby.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Does that mean you're going to keep letting your hair
grow?
I'm trying, mate, but I thinkthat's why I keep this cap on
pretty solid.
She's starting to get prettythin on top, so she's been a
stressful few months for me asof late.
But yeah, look, we're trying togrow it out, but it's a long
off-growth, don't worry.
It's been like a three, eight,nine nine year growth, so it's

(30:25):
not that long for eight, nineyears.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So hey that that wind will make it grow a little bit
more.
It's like yeah, hey, releasethe stress thank you guys very
much for joining us.
We really appreciate both ofyou guys taking the time, hey,
and congratulations on gettingthat, uh monkey, off your back.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Dude, you guys crushed it, so you should be
proud of yourself, thank youyeah for sure, thanks guys,
thanks for having us on and,yeah, appreciate everything, so
we'll see you at the 400.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Later, guys, see you.
Guys Talk to you soon, yep.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
All right, so we're going to get Haley Hine and
Caden McCachran they're going tocome on.
Oh, our dream team.
They're talking about their winin the utv class.
Uh, so plaris factory racing uh, comes away, comes home with
another win?
Uh, as well, that's pretty coolto see.
And you know what's crazy, ryan, that I think about, like

(31:14):
whenever I think about the utvs,is, I don't know we talked
about, I feel like it's a brokenrecord, but they're like,
seriously closing the gap likethey're going so fast.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
What was crazy to me was my dad when we were watching
.
He's like, all right, we'llstay for the 10 cars and then
start leaving.
I'm like, uh, let's wait forthe utvs.
My dad's like, oh, that's gonnabe another hour or so.
Sure shit, like two 10 carscome by and then here comes
caden.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's how fast they're going.
It's crazy right hi hey higeorge, hi ryan, hey, hold on
one sec hey, joe whining, yougotta hit the button, dude, like
it's crazy, right, hi Haley, hiGeorge, hi Ryan, hey O, hold on
one sec.
Hey, joe Winning, you got tohit the button, dude, like click
that thing off, otherwiseCaden's not going to be able to
come in.
Dude, there we go, all right,so let's get Caden on here.
How's your day, haley?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's pretty good.
I'm sunburnt.
I'm five days in.
I'm chasing IndyCars around.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Oh, back to IndyCar life huh.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, holy cow, motorsports, life Kane, what's
up?

Speaker 11 (32:09):
How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
We're doing very well .
How are?

Speaker 11 (32:13):
you, you look angry.
I was just bashing in all thegood things you guys are saying
about me.
Oh, perfect.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I mean, maybe we'll go the other way with it.
Yeah, should I mean, maybewe'll go the other way with it.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, should we get all crazy?
Yeah, hey.
So first of all,congratulations to both of you
guys.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Big winner, thank you .

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Thank you.
So I texted Nelson earlier.
I'm like dude, that purple carman Can't sleep on the purple
car.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
What happened to the window net?

Speaker 10 (32:42):
Who's going to?

Speaker 3 (32:43):
explain it.

Speaker 11 (32:44):
The window net seemed to be a strategic weight
shedding and, oh, some peopleseem to think that's the reason
I won.
So uh, maybe, maybe uh you knowit definitely wasn't on purpose
, but um yeah, we had a littleaccident about mile 40 um, but
I'm not gonna talk about it Ilove how everybody can always
bitch about something though,though.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Oh yeah, freaking window net Haley, how was the
race?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
for you.
Give us a little bit of abreakdown from the passenger
seat.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Super uneventful.
Not having to get out has beenperfect for three races in a row
.
I got to say this is probablythe most I've ever talked in a
race.
I was calling notes over thenotes.
We were in-depth a lot of time,so it was a lot of reading the
line and making sure that wewere as far as we could get into
the turn before we had to turnand whatnot.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Was that stressful?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
or what I wouldn't say.
It was stressful, it was, Idon't know, it wasn't bad.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Was it just different ?
You're not used to talking thatmuch.
I know Caden just likes todrive, don't bother him.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
We have our notes pretty dialed on the setup we
have that I don't have to domuch work, but this time I did.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Caden, was it pretty.
I don't know.
When you say she was talkingthe whole time, does that make
it different for you, or do youjust like to go?

Speaker 11 (34:02):
he wasn't I think she said this is this is the
most she's ever talked in a race.
It's probably the least I'veever listened in a race.
So, uh, I, uh, I, um good tohave somebody like speaking to
you in your ear and keeping youon course, but, um, I'm I
pre-run pretty well and know thecourse, but obviously, like she
said, when you're in the dust,you kind of can't pre-run the

(34:24):
dust too much.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So she's definitely super helpful in the car and
seem like we're making a prettygood team here, yeah yeah, well,
clearly, yeah, but the when youtalk about the dust, right,
like so we just talked aboutwhen we were talking to toby, we
just talked about passing dirtbikes and, like you, you guys
have a totally different jobthan they did, right, because

(34:46):
you're in the dust all day yeah,you got, and they started first
with nobody in front of themyeah, you got faster cars ahead
of you.
like the job or the task to winis almost completely different
because you have a completelydifferent race course with all
the trucks going.
You got like people in front ofyou with faster cars Like, does
it?
I don't even know, like what isit like being in the driver's

(35:08):
seat?

Speaker 11 (35:10):
It's pretty hectic.
But I mean, I always say that Ilike it super difficult, like
when the races are super hardand people, you know, get upset
about the race courses becomingmore difficult and more
difficult.
But I like it On the dust sideof things.
It does make it more difficultand, again, I like that kind of
aspect to it.
I think it brings a aspect ofhaving to slow down once in a

(35:31):
while and not always just goingas fast as you can.
I don't like going too fast.
I, like you know know, chillingout and just cruising for most
of the day and, um, after alittle more technical mile,
about mile 200, we did kind ofjust cruise the rest of the day.
So, um, yeah, it's fun, but uh,it sometimes getting in the
dust is pretty uh climactic.
I would say it gets scary oncein a while when you can't see

(35:53):
nothing does?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
does caden get like?
Does he get excited when hesees this, or is he like no,
just tell me where to go I.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I don't think it's excitement for anybody, but um
it.
It makes it different when youcan see three helicopters ahead
of you and you just know you'regoing to be in heavy truck dust
for a second here, so you got tohang on either way.
I mean, that's off-road racing.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, yeah, but that's using your tool set to
make those decisions.
You know, what's funny is thatyou guys bring this up and I
still remember oh, nice dude,jealous.
Uh, your dad was the one thatgave me the best answer.
I go how do you go fast in thedust, can you like see through
it?
He goes no, you just slow down.
Yeah, like that, that was it.
Yeah, but that's it.

(36:40):
But he's right, like that's theway that you do it.
And one of the other thingsthat I noticed when you were
talking, kid, and as you said, Ilike to chill or I like to.
You know, have a good pace,ryan, that pace is still fast as
f I Cooking, chilling.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
His chilling is way faster than anyone's about me
again Making my ego go up, takeit while you can buddy.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Exactly.
You don't want us racingagainst you, dude, it's not
going to work out very well,george will just stop for tacos
every five miles.

Speaker 11 (37:14):
As long as he brings me something, I might be stoked
on it yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
So what was some of the most eventful things that
happened, or was it a prettychill race?

Speaker 11 (37:22):
um, I said I said this at the finish line, but
that that section from mile oneto the finish was all pretty
hectic I would say and it kindof always is that way and um
with the classes that start infront of you, with with how fast
a lot of our competitors andeven everybody on my team is so
fast that you've got to keep thepace rolling, and any time
you're stopped it's just goingto kill you.

(37:43):
So I'm really focused on nostop time, and that does mean
you have to slow down once in awhile, because most of those
mistakes are made when you'redriving over your head.
So I never drive over my head.
I don't think it makes anysense to do it.
So there's times, when you'rein the dust, though, that you
just you know you have to getthrough it and you can't see
anything and you can't slow down.
It's not an option.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
But I don't think a lot of people realize how tight
the start-finish 40 miles is,like it's not wide open desert,
you're literally single filethrough a lot of it.

Speaker 11 (38:12):
Yeah yeah, so we, we're obviously, you know, back
in the mid maybe, maybe almost100th car off the line, um,
four-wheel vehicle, and I don'tknow the exact time frame on
that, but um, but everybodybehind the trophy truck starts
30 seconds apart.
So let's just say that's.
You know, 40 vehicles.
You know that's 80 minutes ofof cars.
Yeah, sorry, it's 20 minutes ofcars.

(38:35):
Whatever the, however the mathworks out on, it's just they're
just not a math right?
no, definitely not a math guy.
But there's, they're superstacked up in front of you and
you know the guy you're tryingto pass is trying to pass the
guy ahead of him, so he'sdoesn't gonna, he's not gonna
let you buy and you don't expecthim to.
But, um, there it's definitelya lot of cars and a lot not a
lot of mileage.
So that first 40 miles is likekind of the only thing I ever

(38:57):
like pray to get through is just, you know, get me to case any
seven, get me to OOS and um.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
I'll be good the rest of the day, but kind of take a
breath.

Speaker 11 (39:04):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, it kind of sounds like like when he
explains it like that, right now, I know, like cause I wouldn't
want anybody talking to me, I'dwant to be like fully focused if
I had to deal with all this.
And and I'm not saying that badabout haley, I'm just saying
like in general, like anything,but like you have to have that
level of focus becauseeverything that caden just said
is going through his head everytwo seconds, every half a second

(39:28):
, like well, and you have tohave the trust of the person
next to you that they're goingto tell you the right thing,
that haley's not going to sayright and it's a left or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
You know what I mean that's what notes are for right
yep notes are for don't catch mein the last 10 minutes though,
because after 10 hours oftalking, I forget oh, all you
can do is just think about thetacos, I guess, or french fries
sleep for hay blowing bubble.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Good bubbles, good For real.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Was there anything that happened, on course, that
you were like?
Because, I like to debriefafter the races.
Right, and you want to alwaysdo better.
Was there anything that youwere like?
You know what?

Speaker 11 (40:07):
I definitely could have cleaned that up.
Not necessarily, you know, Ithink you know you're taking
what's given to you most of thetime in the race and you know,
know, if you're not given a goodset of cards, you can't play
them well.
So you know, you just you knowtheir opportunities arise when
you feel like you're not in agreat spot.
But the guy behind you could bein a bad spot too, and it's no
biggie.
We got up over mike's down,down for mike's mile 300 and

(40:29):
whatever 320, and had almost a10 minute lead, um, so from
there it was like, okay, sweet,this is gonna be an easy day,
I'm gonna cruise this and noproblems.
And we got to the crossover roadat mile 340.
So I had about 20 miles ofthinking I'm gonna, I'm gonna
just drive in sonata pre-run day.
And then we caught a bunch oftruck dust and we just sat in
truck dust for a good 80 milesstraight, um, and that not.

(40:50):
You know, I lost almost youknow three or four minutes um to
the car behind me there and itwas like, uh-oh, this might not
turn out well.
Thankfully I built that gap towhere it never got that close.
We were able to work throughthe trucks super patiently and
got over to Europe and back inOjos with clean air.
We were good from there.
How's?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
the pace been since last year.
Haley, have you got to?
I don't know understand howmuch faster you guys are going
now than you did before, becauseit seems like it's quite a bit
faster.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I think from the start of the Polaris team
the pace has been fast, fromthese four drivers especially
and with everybody else.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
But I think it's just growing and growing and growing
and it's going to keep gettingfaster so long as everybody
keeps pushing these cars as hardas they can yeah, it seems like
it's pretty wild, right like I,and I hear talk, you know,
behind the scenes of peoplegetting wider cars, getting
faster cars, differentsuspension components, like it
just blows me away how crazyfast these things can go yeah, I

(41:53):
remember riding in george's uhpro r when he first got it.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm like this thing is stock and we're killing
barstow right now I couldn'timagine being in a car like you
guys are racing yeah, well,that's.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
The thing too is as you were saying, people are
building wider cars and moreshocks and everything, but we're
taking basically stock pro rsand running that same pace and
leading the pace, which is crazyit's gotta feel pretty good to
be going that fast too,especially because you've driven
the faster cars too.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I mean, I remember seeing you was it the first time
, I think, when you're inlafayette and you drove your
dad's truck, uh two years agoabout it yeah, yeah 2022 because

Speaker 6 (42:35):
that two-day race.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
That was a completely different like uh, I don't want
to say it was out of yourwheelhouse, but like that was a
completely different thing thanyou know drinking the rs1 or
whatever cars you were using.
Rs1 the trophy truck and yeah,yeah, and to see the level that
you achieved, like there I mean,like some of the techniques
that we talked about this beforelike you you're braking and
your throttle control and theway that you manipulated the

(42:57):
vehicle.
And then you know I don't wantto say going down, but going to
the UTV now that you're driving,like you're taking all that
stuff and you're making it likenext level, it's pretty cool to
see, dude.

Speaker 11 (43:09):
What I can say to all that is we have a, we have a
little race shop down in Vistaand I'm starting to not call it
a race shop anymore and calledcalling it a speed factory,
because those guys are just likeproducing speed and I don't
know like I'm not reallychanging anything or driving any
differently or faster, and thecars are going faster and I can
say that we have a lot more leftto go.

(43:30):
We're kind of just, we just gotour feet under us about six
months ago here, four or sixmonths ago, and now we're really
on a roll, um, to start, youknow, pushing, pushing these
cars.
Um, before it was like okay,new car, new team.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Um, let's figure out and go smoothly, you know
absolutely.

Speaker 11 (43:47):
And and now it's like, okay, well, we kind of
have a good base.
This car's, this car's, the thegen 2s we just came out with at
san felipe are incredible andthe next step further of the ETV
progression.
And now we're starting to, youknow, make speed.
Between the Vista Shop SCI andthe guys back in Minnesota
there's a good amount of peoplethat are devoted to trying to

(44:07):
make these cars faster andthat's ultimately up to us us
four drivers and four navigatorson this Polaris team to prove
that product.
And we're doing it so far andI'm going to do everything I can
to keep doing it.
And I'm sure Craig, max andBrock are all the same and I'm
just super thankful to have thatteam behind me, making it
really easy on me just to focuson these races.

(44:27):
And it's going to be super hardto beat for anybody, but
they're trying and they'retrying harder every day.
And we're going to Vegas Trinohere in a couple months and got
a couple couple guys we haven'traced yet and I'm stoked on that
and I'm sure they're stoked torace us.
Um, hopefully, at the end ofthe race they're not stoked to
race us.
That's what we're working on,you know just making sure we get
there and we have everyopportunity to win that race

(44:49):
well, you guys are doing a greatjob, say so.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
The last question that I have for you guys what'd
you guys do to celebrate?

Speaker 11 (44:55):
really went to sleep for like three days straight,
pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, we got.
I'll let her speak.
But we got to the finish lineand I I sat around there a
little bit waiting for traviswas driving the red park, travis
clark was driving forscandinav's car, waited him to
get to the finish line and thenafter that it was, you know,
straight to the hotel.
Um Walked into the room, Ishowered, got out of the shower,

(45:17):
she showered, I went and walkedoutside to say thank you to
everybody, their heads down,packing everything up, ready to
go home.
And then I walked back into theroom 10 minutes later and she
was under the covers.
I'm pretty sure she was underthe pillow, not on top of the
pillow.
So she slept for a good littlebit there.
But yeah, not much celebrating,just really focusing on the

(45:38):
next one.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Haley's just in her cocoon.
That really was that's awesomeWell you guys did a great job,
so congratulations and thanksfor taking the time out of your
guys' busy schedules to hang outand talk with us.

Speaker 10 (45:52):
Good job.

Speaker 11 (45:52):
Two times up.
I want to thank you and all theother partners that are on the
Polaris team, bfg, vp, foxMethod, all those guys Rigid,
synchrony, progressive Each ofthose companies, for the most
part, has changed something ordeveloped something for this
team and they're putting thatproduct into their retail space.
So that's a big part of whatI'm thankful about doing retail

(46:16):
space.
So that's a big part of whatI'm thankful about doing.
Is, you know, for example, lastyear we came out with a um BFG
35 KR2, uh, utv slashside-by-side tire and uh, that
that's.
You know, we were the flagship,flagship team to run that tire
and we won the thousand on thetire last year.
So I'm I'm pretty stoked to,you know, keep working with
those partners and building acooler stuff for their companies
and and using it on my personalstuff as well.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah, dude, when I get my version 2 Pro R, I'm
getting that progressiveinsurance.
Dude.
Got to keep that thing in mind.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Smart.
Thanks, guys, we'll see youguys later.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Later guys.
Thank you, George, Thank you,ryan, bye All right.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
So up next we got next, we should have a drum roll
.
Up next we got, next we shouldhave a drum roll.
I have the list.
Green Army.
Dude, it's your boy.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Green Army.
Nobody said Dan was going to beon the show.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, Dan the man let's see here.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Somebody's telling me to calm down on the language
over here.
Who is Emily?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
What did you say?
You say a bad word.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
I said bug, oh, just gave me a dirty look.
Well, we got it, man, there wego.
Oh, dude Look at.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
He looks like a cop right now.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
He's a wannabe cop.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Justin Davis and Dan Eckhart.
What's up, dude?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
How are you guys doing so?
First things first,congratulations, dude, bringing
home that dog.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm beginning to see a trend here.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
You're going with all the winners I mean kind of, you
should have just called thisthe winner's show, dude.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
I just wanted to say like I felt like, because I did
the same thing when I waslooking at the list yesterday
and I was was like dude, we gotsome pretty cool friends, yeah,
hey.
So we asked everybody kind ofthe same questions.
But I'm going to ask you guysfirst, what was the worst thing
that happened that day?

Speaker 6 (48:11):
Probably right off the start.
Something was wrong.
We didn't know at the time, butas soon as the truck would land
off any kind of roller it wouldjust terribly grind and vibrate
the whole truck.
So we didn't even.
I mean, I knew I thought atohost it was going to be one of
those days where we would justbe like this is not our day

(48:32):
again.
But uh, come to find out, ourdrive shaft was actually a half
inch too long, so that thing wastrying to shove to the back of
the tranny for 480 miles.
It made it the whole way.
It made it the whole way.
So dang it probably wasaggressive ground down a bunch
of those gears inside there andsmooth itself out and it was one
of those were like, when youheard the noise you're like that

(48:54):
is, that is terminal, that notgoing to make it.
But we got to Ojos, theychecked the truck out, they're
like, well, we can't visibly seeanything, so just keep driving
until something falls out orblows up.
So yeah, and we kind of thoughtwe're like, well, maybe it's
bedside rubbing, maybe it'ssomething small, just like, just

(49:23):
keep keep driving and we'll seewhat happens.
You know we got a long race, um, but yeah, it was too long.
I mean it messed up some stuffbut it made it so.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
But the whole time, the whole race, every time the
truck would compress, it wouldgrind and you're the whole time
you're, you're just trying tofigure out what the hell's going
on yeah, in your mind, in theback of your head, it took us a
little bit like is this gonnamake it?

Speaker 6 (49:36):
like this can't be, this can't be good, like that
noise is not good so, and what'sthe move?

Speaker 2 (49:42):
you just cross your fingers and like, when he's
getting to, like mile 10, likeleft over, like mile nine, mile
seven, like, and you're justlike, oh, he's almost there so
funny story is uh, we didn'tknow what it was, but we just to
keep him calm, we just told himit was a tire rubbing a new
bedside.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Some body fitment issues.
We knew that was not themillion.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
No, no, that was directly coming into our butt,
cheeks, we knew that was notbedside rubbish.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I can feel it grinding, though.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
Yeah, so that was.
It was stressful all day justlistening to that noise, like it
literally was there all day,and the closer you got to the
finish line you're like pleasedon't just break now, like don't
do this.
When we're looking at, you know, looking at Ensenada, and you
know something falls out theback of the truck.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
It sounds like dude just forget about it, go.
Yeah, we checked everything andwe said that's probably the bad
side and that's what we thought, but obviously it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
So did Justin?
Does it make a difference toyou or are you just like?
You know what?

Speaker 6 (50:52):
I'm just going to give her the beans and let her
ride um, I mean it kind ofplayed a little bit of a part,
like we in some of the sectionswe did not push like we could
have, like I'd say we drove mosta day like 65, just because,
you know, at the time we didn'tknow what it was.
So we're like, well, it's goingat this pace and not breaking,

(51:12):
it's not getting worse.
So like why push it?
You know we're still up infront and, um, you know, after
like mile 140 or something, wewere first.
Physically we might not havebeen on time, but you know we
don't really pay too much of thetrackers early in the race
because they're jumping all overthe place.
They're not.
You know, it's not really theaccurate.
Who's leading the race?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
yeah, people are all stacked up on each other yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:36):
So we kind of got out front, kind of just set the
pace and then just kind of paceraced it.
You know didn't take, you know,too many chances.
You know got around some stuffin the dust and just real
patient.
You know we didn't want to geta flat, just keep it moving.
You know, in this class youknow you don't want to stop, you
don't want to lose any timeeverything comes down to seconds
, especially in this class, sowe just went in.

(51:56):
The game plan is yeah, it's notright, something's broken, but
we're just gonna persevere andnot try to worry too much about
it and see how all the cards layout.
Do you like leading better do?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
you like being in the dust?

Speaker 6 (52:08):
it kind of depends, like when you're out front I
mean in spec truck theory,you're always in the dust
because we don't get to start.
You know, towards the front ofthe faster truck you're always
in the dust because we don't getto start, you know, towards the
front of the faster truck.
So we're in class ones, we'rein the slower trucks and the
legends.
So we're never really clean air.
I would say there's alwayssomething we're catching.
So you know, sometimes it'sbetter to chase, you know.
But I think for this race,because we had issues and we

(52:31):
were having vibrations, of that,it worked out in our favor
because we didn't have to pushtoo hard.
You know, we kind of pushedtowards the end when we got
maybe a little bit close, but wejust set the pace and make them
make mistakes and try to chaseus.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
You know they're having to get through all the
other stuff we get, try to putas many cars in between us and
them, and it worked out, dandoes that change the way that
you guys do things on the backend, like if the the logistics
do, you have to manage the racefrom the well, from the front
and the back?
Like you telling them all right, push the truck only to 65%
because you got three dudes thatare 10 minutes behind, but if

(53:07):
they got closer would you tellthem to raise up the pace.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
I like to say yes and I like to say no at the same
time.
So you don't want to give himthe wrong times and let him
lollygag back and try andconserve the vehicle, but then
you also don't want to have himpush the vehicle too hard.
So it kind of plays a ballpark.
It's a ballpark figure on forchase crews.
You got to be accurate onsplits, but you also don't want
to give him the wrong timing aswell, so it all kind of plays

(53:34):
into field when it comes to it'sall a mental game too.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
You don't want to stress justin out and think he's
way behind.

Speaker 8 (53:41):
And then, hey, well, and with this thing, yeah, with
this class it's there's so manycompetitive guys where you have
to be on it 100 and one criticalerror can just cost you the
race, you know.
I mean, I mean this race wekind of won by a larger gap due
to the herps having an issuetowards the back but, uh,

(54:02):
towards the finish, but againit's, it's usually down to 10,
20, 30 seconds usually.
So you have to be on your, youra game at all aspects well,
that's what I was.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
When it comes to that's kind of where I was going
with.
It is because, like we werepretty much on your guys back
door the whole time right andthen so you guys didn't have
very much time to manage andthen right at the end pierce
obviously tipped it over alittle bit, so you guys had that
little bit of a cushion, butthat was only for a few minutes
compared to the whole day yeahyeah, I mean it's just we know.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
We know these races are close, so you just just
minimize your mistakes and keepit moving.
And if you're out front andyou're keeping moving, it's hard
to beat.
I don't care who's out front.

Speaker 8 (54:45):
When you're making the dust and they're having to
chase through your dust, it'shard to beat, yeah, what plays.
Another hard aspect in thisrace is we actually race two
cars.
Justin's younger brother racesin a Maverick r?
Um as well and he had problemsearly on and, uh, jeremy's other
driver hits a car in a silt bedat race mile 40 outside.
Oh.

(55:05):
So it played a whole differentgame into aspect where I kind of
jumped off the truck and helpedtry to get the car uh back
together, which we weren't ableto.
So having two cars is hard,especially cars that are on a
different pace.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Yeah, completely different pace and the.

Speaker 8 (55:21):
UTV.
I mean they're fast, butthey're just again.
The fuel reach is the same.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
There's so many aspects.
It's not like Jeremy was racingthe pro turbo class or whatever
.
He's in the stock class, so hestarts further back too.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Not saying it's a lesser class, but just how far
back he is, because there's sucha big gap in where the chase
trucks need to go.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
We usually have to have a truck in between the pits
for Jeremy, was there a?

Speaker 3 (55:49):
mileage of what?
100 miles, 120 miles, if that?

Speaker 6 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean there always is close, yeah,
push on it?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Was there a close call, Justin?

Speaker 6 (55:59):
I mean there always is close calls.
I mean it's off-road racing,you know, off to start.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
I got a pretty good video of you blowing a turn, so
that's not going to get you.
I mean that happens.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
I mean I think that first 120 miles before the
summit was pretty stressful,just because I mean we were
behind Abdali.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
We couldn't see right the bumper for like 100 miles
we were just in the dirt and youknew in the dub abdali was
going to push.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
Yeah, we kind of last .
It seems like every race, meand abdali start right right
with each other.
So we've kind of, you know, weknew we could run with him.
We just, you know, played itsmart.
Um, we actually caught himgoing up the summit.
He went right at the Y and Iwent left.
Not normally we go left, butI'm like, hey, let's try it.
We're sitting in gut.
Sometimes it might not be hisfast line, but he can see, so

(56:49):
maybe we can get around him.
And we literally popped outlike door to door and I knew I
was on the outside, I knew hewasn't going to give it to me,
he was going to take off, whichwe all would have done the same
thing.
So, but we just, we just kindof in the beginning just try to
be patient.
That first 100 miles was prettygnarly, that, especially that
right after ohos.
Um, we almost actually liket-boned san petro because we

(57:11):
were in this such heavy dust andmy co-driver told me, hey, we
gotta turn left.
I'm like, uh, where he's like,no, you gotta turn left, turn
left.
I'm like, okay, so we just turnleft and I literally like
monster trucked over a big oldtree and as the tree came down,
uh, he was like looking at us.
I'm like, well, and the vcpping.
I'm like, okay, well, I guesswe can go this way.

(57:32):
So yeah, I mean that's thatbeginning is always.
Uh, it's always a mess.
That first 80 miles it's just,it's a hectic, there's a lot
going on.
You know, you barely evenwarmed up.
You're just like just trying toget through it and get to the
open desert where you canactually go racing yeah, totally

(57:53):
so, dan, there's a couplethings that we you guys have
talked about, like, obviously,the the drive shaft issue.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
You guys are going to work on that, but, um, a lot of
the guys, like some of our ourfavorite shows on the dirt life
have been, you know, fabricatorshows and behind the scenes
shows of stuff that happensbehind the scenes, not just the
racing portion of it.
When you have a race like this,you have so many moving parts
that are happening.
How do you keep the team andmanage everything that's going
on?

Speaker 8 (58:20):
It's not one person, it's a group of a lot of people
putting in a lot of time andeffort to get to the race, and
that's not even including theactual race.
So it's not one person, it'snot Justin, it's not me, it's
not David and Troy in the shop,jeremy, it's, it's everyone,
it's a group effort.

(58:41):
Chase guys, like I said, it'sall got to sync up to make it
work Right, and so to come outon top in this class is is is
definitely an achievement itself.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
It's Ryan at Vision Wheel doing all the work.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Me, I'm out here.

Speaker 8 (59:02):
I'm keeping dan in line.
All right, yeah, if he doesn'tknow how to put in a tpms sensor
by now.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
We need to figure they yeah we gotta figure it out
, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
But, in all seriousness, like it does take a
shitload of work to make allthis stuff happen, right.
And when you say that it's theteam, it's not just people,
right, it's.
When you say that it's the team, it's not just people, right,
it's people, it's leaders, it'sworkers, it's everybody doing
their job and staying in syncthe whole time.
I mean, it's almost like anorchestra when you think about
it, because you had two cars incompletely different parts of

(59:29):
Mexican Peninsula and you haveto manage all that stuff.
So, first of all, kudos to you.
But when you think about it,there's a lot that can be
learned when we talk about allthis stuff, or newbies that are
coming into it and for everybodythat's listening to the show.
So what are the tips that youcan give somebody that's wanting
to be part of a team?

Speaker 7 (59:46):
Like, do you just stay in your lane Are you
structured?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Do you try to be a leader?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I have a good one on this.
I always have told people justyou know, learn and work to your
capability.
Don't be the guy that knowseverything.
Don't be the guy trying to doeverything you know.
Be the guy learning and workingwith your strengths.
I mean the guys that think theyknow everything are going to
mess up the race.

(01:00:13):
You know, yeah, they dosomething stupid.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Right Something new.
Every race right, you just gotto every race race.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
You know, yeah, you do something stupid right,
something new every race, right.
You just gotta.
Every race you learn more, youlearn more and you're gonna have
issues this race and we'realready addressing those issues
that we had.
So every race you learnsomething and you gotta fix it
and the next race will haveother problems and well, and you
gotta, and there's juststraight up mexico problems you
never know what's going tohappen down there Mexico.

Speaker 6 (01:00:38):
Mexico teaches you something every time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's actually a really good way to put it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
You can plan, you can prepare everything.
Everything's good.
And then Mexico as soon as therace takes off, just all throw
that out the window and startover.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
We're going to get Christopher Pavorti on real
quick.
Why don't you throw a shout outto everybody that helped you?
Justin, throw that out thewindow.
All right, we're gonna get uh,christopher for christopher
pulvordi on real quick.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
Uh, why don't you throw a shout?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
out to everybody that helped you justin oh, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
You know just everybody again, like the whole
crew that comes down.
You know it's all.
You know volunteers.
So you know they put their timeon.
You know get off work and allthe stuff to come down and help
us and try to succeed, to be,you know, to win.
You know all of our guys put ina lot of effort to help us win
and do a good job.
And you know, obviously, allthe guys behind the other scenes
.
You know Toyo, tires, ryan,vision, you guys, everybody that

(01:01:25):
helps us out, rigid, justeverybody that really puts in
the time We've been working forthree years.
People that sit behind us.
You know we've had a coupleyears of just no luck.
You know three years peoplethat sit behind us.
You know we've had a coupleyears of just no luck.
You know we just couldn't getthe right.
Something would go wrong orsomething happened.
So finally you know we got theright truck I think the tisco
truck and um, it's showing.

(01:01:46):
We got second at san felipe.
We won the 500.
So we're in good points,obviously a good battle with the
herps and we're looking for therest of the year and we're just
going to do our best, put ourheads down, fix the problems we
had at the last race and, uh,even try to come out even better
for the 400 I gotcha and danyeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
I mean justin nailed it on the head and it's it's a
group effort.
Uh, obviously uh couldn't do itwithout justin's parents, uh
and uh the wives, and we havethe munchkins and kids that we
have to fumble through all thistoo.
So it's a battle, like I said,just to get to races with
everyone.
But nobody could do it withoutthe support and sponsors, and

(01:02:27):
Ryan as well.
So we'll have to get Ryan inJeremy's car when there's
eventually rain.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
Yeah, when I can fit in there and I have to lose
about a foot, I'd personallylike to just too small.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I'd personally just like to thank Troy for not
choking me out at qualifying,because he was so frustrated
with the live stream.
So thank you very much, troy.

Speaker 6 (01:02:48):
Troy, he's getting a little old.
On me he's been out of worksince his back's been all messed
up.
I guess I beat him up too much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
He was trying to take some of that effort out on me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
I think, because he rewired it like seven times now.
So I think finally that it wasworking.
He was okay.
But now his back hurts and he'sbeen out of work for like four
days.
All right, he's old and grumpy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I'll give him tacos one of these days.
Thanks, boys, we reallyappreciate it.
Congratulations to the entireteam.
Go Green Army.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Go Green Army Later.
Guys Love you too, ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, let's see if we can get Christopher Polvorti on
here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Is he live streaming from his plane?
We in the system right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
We're going to test him with him in a little while.
You want to go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
I should have some new wheels for him here real
soon, some cool ones, some coolshiny ones, nice Shiny gold boys
.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Let's see if Chris wants to jump on.
Sometimes he gets busy, sowe'll see if he jumps on.
If not, then we will go to ournext guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
He is a busy kid.
For being a young kid, he isdoing everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, he's got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
When he manages his whole team, he's the manager.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It says he's on here, so we'll try that it says it's
not letting me join oh, uh,update your instagram app like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Go like to your app store and update it typical it
response yeah I'm plugging andplug it back in what was going
on with you on race day, ryan.
I just cruised around Me, mydad, gunnar, and my mom I think
we went three different spotsValley Tee, taco Stand I mean

(01:04:44):
that's a must.
You went the other way.
Yeah, we tried to go over thecrossover road, found a semi
stuck in the road.
Wait what?
You didn't hear about that?
No, it was a full-blownsemi-truck in the middle of the
crossover road, Still runninghanging off the side of the
cliff.
I'll send you the picture Rightbetween where the course goes

(01:05:07):
through the meadow and where itmeets back up with the crossover
.
That's where we were Dead nutsin the middle blocking the whole
road.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Dude, that's crazy.
Yeah, we were on the other sideheading back north on the end
of the crossover road.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Oh okay, yeah, you couldn't make it across.
You couldn't even get by thisthing.
How did they reroute everybody?
Was that where everybody was?
Well, by the time I got there,I called Weatherman and I guess
I was the first one that toldthem what was going on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
But like, like, no chase truck traffic could get
through, dude, that's wild and Idon't even know how the truck
made it this far well, thatthat's exactly what you were
talking about, though mexicojust throws shit right at you,
yeah, you think you'd have itall planned out and then all of
a sudden there's a semi-truckmiddle of the crossroad is
gunner at home yeah, he'soutside doing hot laps on his

(01:05:56):
Stasic right now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Oh okay, yeah, he don't got time for Chris
Polvorti then.
Oh, he's a big Polvorti fan,though.
You should have seen him in thepits, really yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
It's not letting him in.
What the heck man?
Why do you have your shirt off?
Let me see If I invite you.
Chris, maybe just try to acceptthat.
I'm not sure.
Did you update your app on theapp store?

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Tech support Tech support All right, so let me
download these.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
We're doing a Starlink show inside the van.
I don't know if you knew that Iwas going to say is that a new?
Setup.
No, we're in a starlink uh showin inside the van.
I don't know if you knew I wasgonna say is that that a new
setup no, we in a van.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah, oh, he's in the van.
Are you down by a river?
Yeah well, actually I was byalberto's taco shop, but same
thing.
Are they just bringing youtacos the whole time?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
no, like I was telling, I was telling regina
earlier.
I was like, yeah, I justordered a burrito.
I had a blowout Burrito totallytook it was a bean and cheese,
extra cheese and I got.
Okay, he's going to reset hisphone, all right, thank you very
much, christopher.
And I ate one of the chilicerritos and I was like fuck.

(01:07:14):
And I didn't have anything leftto drink and I just started to
show it would have been good ifwe started, and you're just
sweating red face about 10minutes into the toby price
interview, my mouth finallystarted cooling off.
But hey, we prevailed good thing, toby can talk yeah, well, dude
, honestly, like I, I was really, really surprised like I don't
want to say surprised, but I wasreally I don't know, even know

(01:07:35):
how to say it like it's reallygetting to be like moto, like
qualifying is fucking importantyeah, and and he, he obviously
has been qualifying phenomenally.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I think he's like four for four on poles, but to
get it all into one where he wonit and qualified first, I think
that's's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Is that sustainable?
Like can you well, actually,this is a better question Can a
trophy truck driver win all fourraces in one year?

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I mean it's been done , but I don't think they've had
the competition like they do,Because you, you can go all the
way to 10th place now and pick aguy that could possibly win
this.
It's wild dude I don't like Idon't, remember I don't remember
a time of trophy truck racingthat had a field so deep.

(01:08:25):
It's like watching the 450class at supercross.
It's like you could pull anyone of those guys out and you
know roxan will win one day,webs the next day.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
So it's the same thing with trophy trucks now
it's freaking crazy man like Ilove it I love it because it
puts so much more.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Uh, I don't know well , it puts a bigger spotlight on
us.
You know when, when stuff likethis happening, there's sick
content coming out, you know.
You're putting it out there.
So now everyone can see howhard these guys are going yeah,
I do think that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
We can ride along with those guys.
Um, hopefully Christopher canget in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Speaking of ride along, how was the boat thing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Oh, it was wild.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah.
So it's crazy to see like Idon't know the level of effort
that those guys put in, but theywere like they were hauling the
mail, Some of those.
Let's see what Brian Moore says.
Oh, I don't know if Brian Mooreis going to be able to join us
now either, because he said he'son it.
Oh, he's big, he's doing aRaiders film shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
No time for us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah, well, he said the director is killing him so
he's probably not going to beable to join.
So hopefully Christopher canfigure out his iPhone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
IT tech support.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
But that both stuff was super cool, dude Super cool.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Christopher said let Ben Del Taco in yeah, that's his
media guy Only if he brings ussome Del Taco.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
How many of even see Ben?
Ben's got to follow us first,dude, why you got to make my
tech support job so much moredifficult?
Because he's not coming up onmy list.
Or maybe Ben could just ask tojoin, because I don't see him on
here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
They must be in the Cessna right now Live stream,
who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Nope, there's no Bandel.
Taco dude.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Big media guys over here, dude, update your phone,
son.
He said he has Unplug it andplug it back in.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
That's funny and I was going to say should we get
Gunnar in here to talk to hisfavorite?

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Oh, he'll come in here.
Full kit Ben Del Taco alright.

Speaker 13 (01:10:56):
He just joined.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Come on man, come on, still not popping up Dude.
This is getting annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Maybe Instagram is messing with us.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Oh, you got a bunch of Baja memorabilia in the
background right there.
I didn't even see that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Oh yeah, check that out.
See that.
All my cool stuff, Jay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Rizzle just joined.
Is any of those ones the onesthat we got down?
Oh, yeah, the one on the right.

Speaker 10 (01:11:28):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
I only keep the ones up that I earned.
I'm like Gunner, who getsfinisher medals for just going
across the podium.

Speaker 5 (01:11:36):
Gunner who gets finisher medals for just going
across the podium.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
I know that is kind of weird.
Gunner hangs his finishermedals in his room and he tells
people that's his race trophies,but now he expects T-Stone to
give him one every time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I invited Ben Del Taco, so let's see if they can
get their system to work.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
They're probably in Utah.
Maybe it's the Utah stateblocking us Internet yeah.
No, you can't go live in Utah.
They're keeping us out of Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
All right, so I invited him, but I don't know if
it's coming through.
I invited Ben.
I wonder if that is actuallylike a proxy or something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
They don't want us hooligans out there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Oh, they've logged off.
Now I don't even know what todo, man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Who was after Christopher?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Proctor.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
We can always talk to Proctor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So Ethan and, oh no, brian Moore, I wonder if we
should.
Just We've already joinedVandal.
Taco was unable to join, so heneeds to update his app too.
I wonder if Christopher'ssister can get him to get on
here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
I just don't get it, dude.
I'm surprised mine worked thetwo dudes pumping out the most
content and they can't getlogged on to Instagram.
You would think it would be usfailing at this.
They upload a YouTube videomid-Baja pre-run.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Oh, are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Yeah, these dudes are down there doing Baja content
within eight hours of doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, like Mr Zachary says, Baja update.
Well, they're like literallydoing it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
All right, so we'll just wait.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Yeah, we know we're out of time.
Emily's yelling at us why shesays I'm live.
Why is she yelling at?
You she thinks we're justchatting, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Well, I am in a van.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Down by the river.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
It was a pretty gnarly Baja, though, and
honestly, baja 500 is myfavorite race of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
Yeah, yeah, because you get the speed the length.
You know.
The 250 is rad, but I feel likethis year it went so fast when
the 500, it's like double thatand you're getting the good
racing action when you go liketo this last one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Did it make you want to race again or no?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
oh, a thousand percent really I mean, that's
why I still go down there isbecause I just need to be
involved.
If I was sitting at home, Iwould be.
I would be so sad.
What'd you say if you couldpick any?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
class to race.
What would you pick?

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I really want to ride a bike down there again.
No way, dude, that's balls ofsteel.
I feel like I've only done itonce on a bike and that was the
first time I ever raced.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Ever since then, I've never been in a car.
That's so gnarly.
Alright, let me ask Christopherto come on again and see if he
can figure it out.
I don't know man Like I thinklike the new Polaris, I think I
would probably pick that.
And then, if I did get at that,I'd love to race a 6100 truck.
Yeah, because I just feel likethe 6100s like are not like, I

(01:15:12):
feel like I would break a trophytruck, not going to go kill
yourself.
Yeah, I feel like I would breaka trophy truck right, like my
moto background, like Ishouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
You don't know where your limit is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, exactly, but I feel like a 6100 truck, like it
would be stable, it would be fun, like the whole deal.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Well, you got to drive it differently.
You got to momentum like a UTV.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Yeah, I feel like that would be pretty good.
I always like riding 125s too,I don't know what we're going to
do with Christopher.
He says he can't log on, so I'mnot really sure I don't know
what happened, ben Del Tacos.
He tried three different.
Maybe it's with your account.
Oh, it says Christopher 40 isunable to join, and you updated

(01:15:52):
your phone too, christopher.
That's crazy, but you cancomment in.
There was like a new Instagramapp that got released like a
couple of days ago, so I don'tknow if that helps.
Yeah, this is what happenedlast time when we couldn't get
people logged on.

Speaker 9 (01:16:07):
They weren't updated.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe something's wrong with it.
Yours is probably not.
You probably like, left it likesix months ago and you have
enough and it's working I saidhe deleted
his app and downloaded it.
Yeah, I'm not sure how to howto even do it on, christopher,

(01:16:30):
wait, hold on, I got an idea.
Hey, siri, facetime callChristopher Paul Vardy.
Which one Starting a FaceTimecall to Christopher Paul Vard?
All right, let's see if we canget him out here.
Paul Vard, there, he is there.

(01:16:53):
He is there, he is.
Can you see him?
We're live.
Yeah, we're good to go.
Dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
I'm out.
I was getting dinner for mycrew chief, Jimmy's birthday, so
I was like, oh, I'm going toblock out for 15 minutes, and
now I'm going to block out for15 minutes and now.

Speaker 7 (01:17:11):
I don't know, none of our phones I got everyone's
phone at the table.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
It says failed request.
That's hilarious.
It must be a Utah thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yeah, that's what we were saying they blocked us.
Yeah, that's what Ryan wassaying.
He's like, yeah, they probablyjust blocked him out of Utah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Yeah, they don't.
We're pretty limited on what wecan do around here and Ben's
phone didn't work either.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
That's hilarious, hey , so we don't have to take too
much of your time.
I'm just going to hold you infront of the iPad for a little
bit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
This is riveting.
This is high-tech stuff we'redoing here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Can you see Ryan at least?

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Yeah, yeah, I pulled it up on another stream, so I
got it too.
I got it going on.
You got like 6,000 phones goingon.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
That's hilarious dude .
You got like 6,000 phones goingon.
That's hilarious dude, oh man,hey.
So give us a little bit of abreakdown on how your race went.
Came home third right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Yeah, came home.
Third, I mean I was reallyhappy with it but I like to win.
So there's a few things, butyeah, overall it was pretty
smooth coming into it.
I knew we had like a good runat it and I knew Toby was going
to be really fast out front.
So my goal was like hey, let'sjust pace these boys all day.
And I got a flat right beforethe summit and ended up bending

(01:18:42):
my sector shaft.
So had to go down the summitwith like a crooked steering
wheel, which doesn't sound bad,but like our paddle shifters
move with the steering wheel,which doesn't sound bad, but
like our paddle shifters movewith the steering wheel.
So it's a little scary.
Yeah, just like line things up,but when you're like the trucks
you're literally rubbing, likeyou're rubbing on the left side,
and then there's like a 500foot cliff on your right side.

(01:19:02):
So that's never fun.
So, yeah, doing that with acrooked steering wheel, got down
there, passed Alan and Pudia.
He had a flat and then kind ofwas just facing Toby.
He had a nice little lead but Iwas like, hey, let's just pace
him.
Unfortunately, around cominginto Borrego area like right

(01:19:24):
about like 230, 240,.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I started having some cooling issues.
Was it hot over there?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
It was.
I didn't make it that far.
Yeah, it had to have been atleast like 110, I think it was
toasty, it felt hot, it felt hot.
So we we kind of assumed like,oh, we're just going up the you
know up a sand wash, like it'sgoing to come down as soon as we
get out of sand wash.
So we kind of just maintainedand then unfortunately, I could
just start climbing out ofcontrol, um, to the point where

(01:19:50):
it was like scary, scary, so wehad to back her down and it kept
climbing and climbing, andclimbing.
So then I had to really backher down and at that point Alan
got back by me, then Tavo got byme and yeah, so that was kind
of a bummer Pulled into a pit.

(01:20:11):
They kind of were able totroubleshoot some things, um,
get that resolved.
And then from there on I waslike, hey, let's just pace.
Um, we're not gonna win thisthing.
You know, we said a lot ofdowntime, let's just cruise.
So kind of just cruised andyeah, by the end, um, you know,
all of a sudden Luke was out andAlan was having issues, and

(01:20:33):
then we kind of just caughtTavo's dust.
We made up like six minutes orsomething on Tavo and Toby, and
then at that point it was likelet's just cruise home.
But yeah, it was good, it wasgood, it was exciting.
I mean first, like you know, inmy own truck podium, baja 500.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
With issues.
I'm pretty pumped.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
It was uh did you feel like toby was just was
getting it.
Oh yeah, in the beginning, uh,dude, toby was getting down, he,
I, he probably, for toby wasprobably just cruising, but the
man was getting, um, like you'relike, uh, every time I the
first, you know a little bit,you get splits and everyone's
kind of there.
And then all of a sudden, likeI get splits at like mile 75 and

(01:21:18):
we're leading like okay,perfect.
Then get splits at like mile 90and like toby has like two
minutes on us, I'm like holy guywas putting it down.
So yeah to, yeah, toby chargeddefinitely through the desert.
He was smart, he got ahead ofus all there and I mean I think
he knew like if he could get outthere, it was going to be tough
for all of us to catch him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Dude, that's kind of like what is happening in
Supercross and motocrossnowadays.
Like you, just go balls to thewall for the first five minutes,
get that gap and then you justmaintain, yeah, the Deegan
approach right?

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Yeah, no, I think it's definitely.
And I think it's so tough nowlike the pace is so fast that
you know, if you make it throughthat first five minutes,
essentially we're all pushing toa point where it's like, oh,
are we going to crash the truck,or like you know.
So it's kind of where it's like, oh, are we going to crash the
truck, or like you know.
So it's kind of it'sinteresting.
It blows my mind like, honestly, how fast the pace is Jumping

(01:22:15):
up to trophy truck, like Iassumed.
You know, I thought us fat guysran pretty hard, but you know,
trophy truck we run really hard.
Does it ever scare you?
It doesn't scare me, think I'mstill at that young, dumb age,
but it's definitely there'spoints where you're like you're

(01:22:36):
going so fast.
Does?

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
it scare mike in the passenger seat.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Oh yeah, that's the real question you're doing 130
on a road that you're rubbingtrees on on both sides and
you're like why am I doing this?
That's wild.
That's what I mean.
The trophy truck, it just blowsmy mind.
All of a sudden, every time youlook down, you're doing 100.
And so it's kind of just trippyin the beginning.

(01:23:05):
All of a sudden it becomesnormal.
But then you look down, you'relike doing 100 through a narrow
road right now.
It's pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Hey, dude Ryan, did you hear one of Christopher's 18
phones just started?

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
ringing.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I'm surprised they're not allup to his ears right now.
Jerry McGuire over here, Idon't know how I got one on?

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Was there any close calls, or were you guys keeping
it pretty mellow?

Speaker 4 (01:23:30):
We kept it pretty mellow.
We had a couple of really closecalls with some motorcycles and
quads Dude that I mean we gavethem a lot of warning and they
like didn't want to pull over,so we'd have to like run up on
them and I had one guy stomp infront of me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
The worst is when they look back right at you like
deer in the headlights, like ohshit yeah, he looked back like
five times and then he decidedto stop.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
And my 7 000 pound truck doesn't stop quite like
his motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, hey, is that ship in the background yeah, now
everyone's in the car oh, I'mgonna say hi guys hey I'm jimmy
birthday, my crew chief, so wehad to go.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
You know, go get it and talk on Tuesday Happy
birthday Jimmy, Happy birthday.
He doesn't drive with me though, trust me.
But yeah, then we had amotorcycle fall in front of us
as we came around the corner,which we didn't see him.
That was really scary.
We missed the guy by inches.

(01:24:37):
Um, besides that, I mean mostof the day we just kind of
maintained we didn't really takeany big chances.
I think that's the benefit withall wheel drive is yeah you
can't just like cruise andmaintain and you're still going
extremely fast where, like in6100, I felt like I had you had
to hang it out for race.
Yeah, um, so it's.
It's a different mentality.
You definitely have to be alittle more calculated in trophy

(01:24:58):
truck, where in, like the spectruck, I think it was just kind
of balls to the wall and whoeverdoesn't crash wins well, yeah,
but like I still feel likethere's a lot of that in trophy
truck though too well, yeah, Ithink he's just comfortable in
the truck now to where he canmanage it.
You know what I mean yeah, no,it's, it's still really fast.

(01:25:22):
It blows my.
You're just like you're.
You're charging and pushingthese trucks to the point where
you're like I don't know if thisis going to last another 400
miles, but the trucks arestarting to show that they can.
I mean, I think this Ball 1000was kind of like the testimony.
We did 1,200 miles, 1,300 milesand all the top all-wheel drive

(01:25:43):
guys finished.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
That was kind of a good test.
You're talking about the truck,but I like I like the human
aspect of it, right.
Like how gnarly is that on yourbrain to be able to stay
focused at that pace for thatlong?
Cause I feel like your braingets super tired if you have
that much going through yourhead.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Oh it's, it's gnarly and it's intense and I
personally can tell you I had ahuge concussion a little over a
month ago, a month and a halfago.
So coming into this I wasextremely nervous and like my
brain was smoked by the end ofit mentally.
There's no turning it offbecause you're going so fast.

(01:26:24):
Anytime you try to take a break, something gets you.
And yeah, like my kid can be be, he'll just be like, hey, focus
, you need to focus.
Like also, I mean you take ahalf a second just to try to
drink a water and all of asudden you're in the bushes
because you're going just sofast and if you miss the braking
points and all will drive itdoesn't stop.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Well, dude that happens to people going 55 miles
an hour on a normal road rightand you guys are going double,
double that face on a reallyskinny, dirt road in the desert.
It's wild to think about.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Yeah, I mean, the trucks are so heavy, you just
don't realize it.
That's one of the biggestthings I have to remind myself.
Pretty much every mile is hey,this thing does not want to stop
.
It's over 7,000 pounds.
It's a lot of mass movingvelocity.
I don't know what you call it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Do you ever have to check up and just kind of feel
the truck and make sure it'sdoing?
Good, you know, like every timeI think about that, like even
when we were doing UTV it's wayslower pace, but like I would
touch the brakes just to makesure they were there the brakes
just to make sure they werethere, like way before I hit the
turn.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely towards the end even
I think you know you startgetting a little break fade and
all of a sudden you come intoone corner and you know you lose
your trust.
So I find myself, even though Iwas great doing 100 just making
sure okay, those brakes arestill there, like just to make
sure when I come into that nextcorner it's gonna stop.
When you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
When you crossed the finish line, were you just like,
wow, okay, I accomplished agoal, because I know that
concussion bothered you a littlebit and you were making sure
that you were focused on yourhealth the weeks leading up to
it.
When you crossed the finishline, were you like oh sweet, I
did it.
Because that, to me, is like amilestone.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Yeah, no, it was huge .
I was really worried.
I know my mother was veryworried.
A lot of people were likewhether I was going to be able
to survive the whole time.
So, yeah, it was a huge kind ofcheck on the list, shout out to
all the, I guess, the doctorsnow.
Now you hear concussions andeveryone thinks slow down.

(01:28:26):
But I went to a specialist andhe was like, no, just keep
charging and here's all we dowith athletes like you.
So, yeah, modern technologyallowing us to kind of push
ourselves.
But yeah, when I got done withthat race, it was one of the
biggest like weights off myshoulders in a long time,

(01:28:49):
because the 500 is a lot of prepand then it's just a strain.
I mean, it was like like whatnine and a?
half hours, ten hours, I mean.
Yeah, my body was done.
I couldn't even.
I think there's a video of metrying to get out of the truck.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
I barely could stand up so, yeah, but that's good
that you pushed through it right, because otherwise if you
hadn't done that, you wouldn'tfeel like the accomplishment
that you did.

Speaker 10 (01:29:07):
Yeah, and all that effort yeah, that's what it felt
.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
It felt good.
It felt even like, uh, you know, I I felt very good like
leaving that race.
It was just one of those likeaccomplishments of we pushed
through it and I think the teamreally pushed through a lot of.
We had a lot of ups and downsand we're learning a ton every
race.
This all will drive waydifferent.
So, yeah, I think everyone wassuper happy.

(01:29:34):
And obviously, the timing mydad was so involved with the
timing and the live stream thatwas like a check in the box.
The truck finishing, that was acheck in the box for the crew
chiefs, the logistics, you knowthere's so much behind the
scenes that we were all kind ofstressed out on our own levels.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yeah, but you guys got a lot done.
So there's two things I want toask, because we're going to get
Brian Moore hopefully on thephone here in just a second, but
first I want you to thank allthe people that supported you.
And then I'd like to know whatyou're going to do next, like
because there's a lot ofplanning that's going to go into
your next event.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Yeah, no, I mean big shout out to I think I mean the
big one even for the whole scoreevent.
Which I don't know if a lot ofpeople knew is the fact that
Optima Batteries did all of thetiming and everything.
So huge shout out to them.
They support me, huge, butthey're supporting the sport,
which is what we need to go tothe next level.

(01:30:29):
And then Ford Performance,toyota tires, vision wheels, k&n
VP Racing Fuels, dect USA,borla, exhaust.
The list goes on and on Stealit.
There's so many differentvariables that I still blow my

(01:30:53):
mind that we're out racingtrophy trucks.
But uh, next for us, uh, we'realready planning, um, I mean,
the ball 400.
Um got a lot of that stuff.
Um, redoing a bunch of stuff onmy pre-runner, trying to get
our live stream mastered on thehelicopter and the race car, um,
and then just trying to get ourpits and everything faster.
We're trying to do a lot oftraining and stuff.

(01:31:15):
Um, is that?
That's kind of what's next onour list?
We're, you know, we're up herein utah so we're moving into our
new shop, kind of as we speakright now.
So I don't even we haven't eventouched the race truck, which I
know would freak out mostpeople because we've just been
so focused on the race shop umsince we decided to move last
year, so this will be our firstofficial prep in a real race

(01:31:37):
shop in utah dude, it's prettycrazy to think about all those
changes and moving parts.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Man, you guys are doing a good job.
I mean that's like jugglingliterally a business like with a
bunch of different divisions init, right like.
So you guys are doing a goodjob and I appreciate the fact
that you guys are trying to pushthe sport forward.
I mean every little thing helps.
So kudos to you guys, keep itgoing.

Speaker 4 (01:31:59):
No, no Well, thank you guys, and thanks George for
having us, Thanks for yourStarStream stuff.
I think that's the.
You're helping people pushthemselves at a, you know, push
the sport with streaming, whichI think a lot of people didn't
think was achievable, and thenyou made a product that
obviously proved everyone wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
I appreciate it, man Dude, we're big boat guys now
too.
You just got back from WestPalm Beach.
It's a great boat ride, I know,I know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
I kept seeing your pictures.
I was a little jealous.
I was flying around and going.
I know, I know I kept seeingyour pictures.
I was a little jealous ForGeorge to be hanging out with
Donald.

Speaker 8 (01:32:28):
Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Yeah, I almost landed at his place, dude.
He has Not to change thesubject, but Donald Trump has
these big towers with gunmen Inthem, so you can't fuck with his
house.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
George is going to be eating tacos with Trump.
Dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Alright, hey, thanks and happy birthday, jimmy, thank
you.
Thank you, guys.
Later guys.
Yeah, I'd like to thankInstagram for screwing Chris
over.
Thanks, ben.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Del Taco for the support.
Later guys, Later, that'shilarious man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
What a good kid.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Stupid Andy.
Like we said earlier's, it'shim doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
You know he's got jimmy, his dad, helping, but
he's doing a lot of the behindthe scenes, putting the pieces
together, making it happen well,we always talk about how much
kids learn and how much itbenefits just going through the
whole process, and I mean he's aprime example of it, right he's
?

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
been racing his whole life, but he's leading the new
generation Well and itdefinitely shows just by what
he's doing with YouTube and thelive streams and all that stuff
Like outside of Menzies and youknow, mcmillans I think
Christopher's right up therewith him on that side of it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Well, I just invited Ethan, ethan eber and, uh, jeff
proctor on, so hopefully theycan get dude.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I wonder if maybe it's our instagram or my
instagram mine's been doing good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
I feel like my stuff's always slacking I don't
know it's doing good, but uh,ethan and jeff, why don't you
guys jump on?
I invited both of you guys, sofeel free to jump in and accept
the invitation.
Hopefully it works good.
If not, then update yourInstagram app or I'm going to
have to FaceTime you guys orcall Ben Del Taco.
So, yeah, I don't think BrianMoore is going to be able to

(01:34:25):
come.
He's way too busy doingfootball stuff.
Big football guy, big Raidersguy.
That's what happens.
Raiders move to Las Vegas.
Brian Moore takes over theirmedia.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
It was bound to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
I don't even think.
Ethan and Jeff are not evenonline anymore, so you have to
have the green dot next to yourname to know that you're online.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
My mom just asked where I want to go for Father's
Day and I said Valley T TacoSound.
Can you pull it off?
I mean why not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
That would be so fun.
I bet you Jim would like it.
He's probably already there.
Yeah, Ethan said it won't work.
I wonder if it's my Instagramthat's jacked up either.
Want me to log out and log backin?

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
It's that request, but it's frozen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Yeah, that's what mine did too, like I literally
just sent one from my personalInstagram and it never popped up
on the Dirt Live.
That's weird.
I'm going to close the live andthen start it again, okay, okay
, all right, guys, we're back.
Technical difficultiesHopefully, since we reset
Instagram, it'll be better now.
See how it works, see if Ryancan join us too.

(01:35:39):
I don't know what the heck man.
Well, here's Ryan's.
See if he can hop on now.
Except Ryan, except Ethan.
What's up Albert?

(01:36:03):
There you go, you got me.
Maybe it was my Instagramthat's messed up.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Oh, my Dude, unplug it and plug it back in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Pretty much.
I don't know, man.
We put all this pressure onChristopher, but maybe it was
the Dirt Life's Instagram thatwas jacked up, we'll blame
Christopher.
Okay, that's fine.
Now we'll get Jeff to come ontoo.
Are you back in Tucson, Ethan?

Speaker 13 (01:36:35):
Yeah, dude, I just got off iRacing, maybe making
people mad on NASCAR dude.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
Really.

Speaker 13 (01:36:40):
Yeah, they get all fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Do you play any iRacing?

Speaker 12 (01:36:49):
Who Proctor?
No, he's got a sim at the shop.
I've got a sim at my shop, butI haven't been on the sim in
years, so what was the deal withiRacing Ethan.

Speaker 13 (01:37:01):
Dude, I just like to make people mad on NASCAR.
You just go with them whenyou're like practicing, you just
spin them out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
You like, get a hot lap and you spin them out when
you're done with them.
Dude, people take that stuffseriously dude.

Speaker 13 (01:37:13):
Yeah, I've gotten like serious threats.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Hey.
So you guys want to hear alittle secret that you'll like.
So, jeff, you're a big fan ofthe KOH and all the stuff that
happens out there.
Hopefully, in the next coupleof years, you'll be able to race
against Lauren Healy and allthose big guys sitting at home
in your sim.
Why they actually race Really,oh I did hear something about
this.

Speaker 10 (01:37:36):
We're going on, I racing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Yeah, you're going to actually be able to race in a
sim against them Like let's justsay you have a position here
and this is Lauren Healy sittingon the starting line.
This spot will be empty, butit'll be a dude on a computer
actually racing against him.

Speaker 12 (01:37:52):
Wow, who's producing this?
George?
Probably George.
We've had some meetings.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
I can't let that out of the bag, george.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
It's definitely not me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
I don't have the funds to be able to do that.
So don't let me.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I mean, you were just with Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
So, yeah you never know, that's true Huge.
Trump?
Yeah, he's my president, hey,so let's talk about something
that's not so friendly to Trump.
Let's talk about Baja in Mexico.
What's going on with you guys,man?

Speaker 13 (01:38:24):
You guys had a really good race.
Yeah, no, dude, it was anawesome race down there.
I mean, obviously you guys knowhalf the race is done in the
shop.
So it was a lot of prep, a lotof great prep by Evan Weller and
then obviously by Proctor too,just by rounding up the team and
all the volunteers that help us.
So, yeah, it was a really goodrace overall.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
So we saw you guys come across the finish line.
In what position was it, Jeff?

Speaker 12 (01:38:46):
Seventh place in trophy truck.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
So I thought, like when I uh seventh place in uh
trophy truck, so uh, I thought,like when I saw you guys cross
the finish line, like to becompletely honest, I go holy
shit, ethan got here way earlierthan I thought.
That was my, that was kind ofmy point.
Where I was going with this waslike this program is gaining so
much momentum because of allthe work that you guys are

(01:39:14):
putting in, and that wasn't aneasy course by any means.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Like you guys, put in the work for sure.

Speaker 13 (01:39:22):
Yeah, no, absolutely .
I mean even just testing andtuning, just with Fox alone,
with their live valve.
I mean it's a game changer outthere Because you can be going
through rocks and change thesetting and it does way better
than any other truck.
So instead of setting yourtruck up once, you can set it up
multiple times and it justgives you that much more of an
advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Has that been a lot of work on the backside, Jeff
you know it has.

Speaker 12 (01:39:43):
I think there's kind of some misnomers out there
that you develop a new racetruck and it's ready to go right
out of the box.
It usually takes I think ittakes about a season to kind of
work through kind of the the newtruck bugs and get the the
truck sorted the way that wewant, and I think ethan can back
me up on this that we've beenputting the work with with fox
on the shocks and with theengine tuning and paddle

(01:40:07):
shifting, calibration with ourgearbox, and the truck is just
starting to come alive now.
But I will tell you and Ethancan back me on this again,
there's still some untappedpotential there.
So we've got some other tricksup our sleeve for Vegas Torino
that we're changing that wedidn't have at the 500.
So I think the truck willcontinue to get better and

(01:40:29):
Ethan's continuing to get betterand and ethan's continuing to
get faster yeah, it's a whole,it's the whole growth, right
like it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
Like I said, like it's.
It's visible, like literallyvisible, on course, like the way
that you guys are doing it.
So it's cool to see, um, whatwere some of the things that you
guys had to achieve or fightthrough during the race, because
nothing ever goes smooth inBaja.

Speaker 13 (01:40:54):
Honestly, we didn't really have any mechanical
problems at all.
I mean, the Honda motor didgreat.
We had no overheating, no,nothing like that.
It was more of just gettingthrough dust, really, because we
started so far back.
I think we started like 27thoff the line.

Speaker 7 (01:41:10):
And so starting that far back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
It was like and you guys know, because you guys uh,
30 miles qualify right we, wewouldn't, we weren't able to we
didn't race uh san felipe, sothey didn't let us um

Speaker 12 (01:41:20):
but yeah, we're gonna do that, yeah, yeah,
because it's a new rule, right,jeff, if you don't race yeah, I
got a call from score, I want tosay, like a month before the
500 and they said hey, we knowyou guys signed up to qualify
but you're unable to.
You have to take a rear startbecause you didn't race the
first race of the series.
So if we don't race the 400,we're gonna have to take a rear

(01:41:43):
start for the thousand as well.
So a little bit of an issue,but yeah, I guess it is what it
is right.
Yeah, we had.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Uh, we had kind of the same thing happen with the
herbs guys.
The 19 truck, uh unfortunatelywasn't able to, you know, get
enough work done to it to beable to race the entire race.
So we just started off, tookour starting position, and then
we'll be able to qualify for the400.
Yeah, yeah it's kind of crazythat that happens, though I mean
I guess it's, I don't know,it's an okay rule.

Speaker 12 (01:42:14):
I mean, I know why they want to do it.
They want us to race the wholescore series.
But you know our contract wasmade three years ago with the
races that we're going to race.
So it's really hard for us tokind of pivot on a new rule one
month before or a couple monthsbefore the series starts.
So you know, we're just gonnahave to roll with the punches,
and ethan did a fantastic job.
Yeah, I mean it a lot of backmarkers it definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Uh, didn't hinder you that much, let's just say that
how was?

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
it pretty exciting going through?
Was it pretty stressful goingthrough?
Like what did you do?

Speaker 13 (01:42:46):
like, because that's a freaking, that's a huge
weight yeah, no, I mean, it wasa lot, that's for sure.
But uh, it's safe to say thatthat front clip is no longer
white, it's mixed with somegreen and a lot of brown and all
thatstuff, but uh yeah, no, I mean,
it's just bushwhackingeverywhere if you can't see, and
it's just.
And the way with baja works isthis is all basically silt down
there, so it just sits, yeah anduh, makes getting through that

(01:43:08):
dust even, uh, harder.
But no, I mean, it's just,gallon is a great co-driver.
I mean we just sat there said,okay, look, we're not going to
win it through the dust, so whytry to like, set down a
qualifying lap in the dust butthen back off when we're not in
dust?
So we try to save ourselves forthe clean air and then get
through the clean air and thenjust start chasing down the
other truck.

Speaker 12 (01:43:27):
Yeah, Tell them about the close call with the
quad.
Everybody saw that on Dude.
That's not.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
All right, I was going to bring that up next.
That was insane.
Yeah, no, that was partially mybad.

Speaker 13 (01:43:40):
Yeah, no, it was partially my bad.
So Gallin and I were rippingdown mile like 175, almost 180.
And we were just about to pitand we were on this long stand
straightaway, so we were doinglike 110, something like that,
and I saw this bike and we'relike okay, dude, did you sell
him?
And he was like oh no, I meanhe's gonna see us because the
helicopter and so it looks likehe got up outside of the rut but

(01:44:02):
he like quickly cut back onbecause he was probably just
dodging a rock and he didn'tknow where we were.
So when he caught on, you cansee in the heli footage that
turn two got.
I jumped out of the two tracklike or the single track right
away and was like totally buzzedthem on accident.
But I totally thought that hegot them, like saw that we were
behind him and so I yeah, Ibuzzed the crap out of all an

(01:44:23):
accident.
I felt really bad, but it waslike dude, he looked like he was
getting out of the way becauseI thought he saw us but he
obviously didn't.

Speaker 12 (01:44:30):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fun fact on our mediahelicopter.
I got a message from Jose Gafter the race and our media
helicopter got banned from scorefor an entire season for flying
too low off the deck.
Oh yeah, and over the road hesaw the footage of him following

(01:44:51):
our truck from some fans thatposted it.
Did you see that, george?

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
No, I didn't know that, yeah it's from a guy under
an EZ-Up.
He buzzed an EZ-Up Like thelanding gear almost hit the
EZ-Up it was sick.

Speaker 13 (01:45:09):
It was up, he was so low, it was sick, hey, but he
got the shot.
He got the shot yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Dude, that's crazy.
You got to be careful with that, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:45:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
Dude, and some of those helicopters well, not the
Robinsons, but some of thosehelicopters put some serious
downwind.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's prettycrazy Shit.
There was this question I wasjust gonna ask, but I forgot
what it was.
Hey, when, when, so well, first, first, things first, like that
sucked that.
That guy like came back on thetrack or whatever.

Speaker 13 (01:45:38):
But, dude, you had to probably react so quick yeah,
no, I mean, and the uh with oursteering pump and all that
stuff, it was perfect.
Just because it you basicallydon't even feel the 40s that are
there, so we're able to justget right out of the way.
But I mean, it's just, it's all.
And honestly, sim racingactually kind of helps that,
just because you're so focusedon reaction time and you're yeah
just with reaction time.

(01:45:58):
I do a lot of road racing, sothat's why, like get out of the
way if this guy's split out orsomething.
But yeah, no, I mean it was.
It's just really you gotta beon your game, like you guys said
with Christopher, you can startdoing those wall exercises like
the F1 guys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
Yeah, I actually do have the lights.

Speaker 13 (01:46:12):
Yeah, dude, it's like the Formula 1 lights.
They're pretty dope.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
He's juggling balls before the starting line we film
a video in Mexico at astoplight and it's Ethan, not a
regular guy, yeah, dude, yeah,whatever he's doing it's working
it's working.
Keep it going.
Yeah, dude, totally, uh.
So there was a little bit of asketchy moment there, but it
seemed like for the most part,you were able to keep your wits

(01:46:36):
about you and keep up a goodpace, coming home like passing
20 trucks, yeah yeah, no, it wasdefinitely gnarly, but, just
like I said, gallen and ivy justclicked.

Speaker 13 (01:46:44):
For some reason, gallen and I clicked really good
, so we're just able to logmiles off like, all right, did
you?
Did you hear that?
Yeah, it's a little noise, butit's probably just fiberglass,
this and this and this and likeit really wasn't any scary
noises, any vibrations, justkind of kept your head down and
kept cruising, really.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Jeff, what about on the back side of things?
Were you able to manage thestuff from the way that they
were driving and communicatewith them, or were you because
you have a utv as well?
So focusing on both vehicles?

Speaker 12 (01:47:10):
yeah, yeah, you know it's tough for me to focus on
both teams because there's sucha big gap between trophy truck
and an na, pro, pro, utv, na.
So, um, I just focus on thetruck on race day and I've got a
separate team that focuses onthe talent.
And uh, you know I was inconstant communication with
gatlin all day.
You know whether it's splittimes.
We use a sat communicationsystem.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
We just need to make sure that Ethan's mom gets a
Starlink for the next race, soshe's not out there in Valley T
bumming Starlink off everyone.

Speaker 12 (01:47:43):
I thought Ethan's dad had a Starlink in the truck.

Speaker 11 (01:47:46):
It's funny she comes walking up to me oh like, hey,
I just need a.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
I need to link up with you because I don't know
what's going on yeah, all right.

Speaker 12 (01:47:56):
No, that's how she was trying to get a starling
yeah, we'll get mrs ebert uhdialed in for the next race, but
oh yeah, I felt so bad for her.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
She's like I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 12 (01:48:07):
I don't even know if they're at the pit, yet I'm
like okay, yeah but from myperspective, you know, there was
constant communication with thetruck all day, constant split
times.
Um, it was really really goodto be able to talk with them the
entire race and gatlin wasphenomenal on the radio and and
ethan just drove a hell of arace, so just super stoked all

(01:48:31):
around yeah, I mean just tothink about how many, how much
action you guys must have had oncourse, ethan, like you didn't
just pass 20 trucks, you had awhole bunch of other stuff
happening.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Dude, like that's just crazy to me to think about.
We just asked christopherpomorti like how his, uh, his
brain was feeling after, like doyou get fatigued like in your
head since you have to processso much information?

Speaker 13 (01:48:55):
um, yeah, no, I mean because you have to be on your
a game the whole time, you're ina trophy truck.
I mean you have bryce menzies,uh, hauling butt out there.
So like trying to keep a pacewith a all wheel drive v8 truck
in the v6 two-wheel drive truck,it takes a toll on you for sure
, but it's also remembering thatyou're racing your race and not
bryce's race.
So it's just a lot of different.
Like okay, where should I pushmy brain and where should I

(01:49:17):
think faster?
And then where should I kind oflike relax and like regain some
consciousness near here, solike on a lot of the
straightaways, but your truckalso has a lot of, a lot of
benefits benefits in other areasthan the bigger trucks too.
Yeah, no, no, I mean like itloves living on the limiter.

Speaker 7 (01:49:34):
Callan and.

Speaker 13 (01:49:35):
I have tested that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:36):
It makes it pop, but yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:49:39):
no, she likes to fly , she likes to track straight
too.
I mean, it's a great truckoverall.
I don't see why we can't putthis number nine HRC truck on
the top of the box in a futurerace Jeff, just big old grin.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
I do love that.
Go get them attitude Likethat's just like.
That's why you guys are doingso good, jeff, is because you
guys have a fresh perspective oneverything that's happening on
course?

Speaker 12 (01:50:05):
Yeah, absolutely, and we're.
We're pushing hard behind thescenes too, I think it.
We don't do a good job attelling the story of how much
work it really is behind thescenes to run up front and pull
a volunteer crew together, butwe are pushing hard and we want
this truck to continue todevelop and get better, and that
only gets Ethan morecomfortable and pushes the pace

(01:50:27):
even harder.

Speaker 5 (01:50:28):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 12 (01:50:29):
I think something that we were all surprised with
you know Ethan just racingTrophy Truck for the first time,
and the team as well is justthe pace is incredible.
We heard Polvarti talking aboutthe pace and it's hard to
fathom until you're in the huntwith those guys.
Everybody's pushing hard,nobody's holding back on saving
their equipment.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Dude, it's wild.
I mean ryan and I were talkingabout it just in the utv class.

Speaker 7 (01:50:54):
It's insane like yeah , I could only imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Like to be honest with you that one time that I
went and rode in the truck withyou, jeff, when we just took a
you know uh, I don't know whatwe got you took me 117 miles an
hour in barstow and I wassitting there.
I was sitting there thinkinglike, first things, first.
Jeff is an amazing wheel man,but how the hell, ryan, do they
go that fast for that great 10hours like it is just?

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
that blows me.
It's insane, yeah, yeah it'sinsane that ethan has the
stamina to keep it going right,no I mean is it working?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
out oh yeah no yeah yeah no, it's uh.

Speaker 13 (01:51:34):
We're on a good regimen, um yeah, just waking up
early going to work after.
So, yeah, eating clean too, butum, yeah, no, I mean, just
staying at those speeds is likeit basically turns your 110
miles an hour into a 60 miles anhour.
So you basically have to flipyour brain into thinking, oh,
I'm just kind of cruising, likeI can go harder, uh, when you're
really going 110 miles an hour.
So it's just kind of trying toflip your brain into processing

(01:51:56):
things differently that's kindof what toby was talking about
too.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
All right, like yeah, you're doing 100 and something
and you don't even realize yeahbut man, what talking to him at
the beginning, like he is socomfortable at that pace.
You know we're I'm not sayingethan and christopher are lesser
drivers, but it's like they'relike we're hanging it out.
Toby's like yeah, I was hangingit out, but like comfortably,

(01:52:20):
that's scary.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
That's scary that that was comfortable to him but
that's something that ethan hasto look forward yeah, no, it's
cool.
It's cool to hear all thesedifferent perspectives hey, so,
um, what was your favorite partabout the entire race?

Speaker 13 (01:52:34):
oh, dude, it's after our pit 180 and leading up to
it, um gosh.
I forget the guy's name, but itwas tsa, most trial, yeah oh
yeah dude, it was so sick.
We just kept going back andforth, back and forth.
It was awesome.
But uh, yeah, it reminded me ofshort course because he was
like dude, like this guy'strying to take my line and like
get back in there, and I wealmost doored each other, like I

(01:52:55):
think, once or twice.
So it was pretty dope.
I was like dude, this isfinally gonna happen, I'm gonna
finally use my door, and itnever happened.
Which kind of sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
But um, yeah, I know it's just a lot of like clean,
fun battle, which was nice yeah,that's cool you got to battle,
but I don't think that wasprobably very good on stress
level.

Speaker 12 (01:53:16):
Well, I didn't see it real time, I saw it post-race
, you know, in the Instagramvideo, so I thought it was
pretty clean.

Speaker 3 (01:53:23):
Racing, to be honest, was that going up to Mike's
road, or where was that?

Speaker 13 (01:53:27):
No, it was like in the white sand dunes, basically.
So all those through, all thosewhoops in the sand, and then
you drop into the rock wash.

Speaker 12 (01:53:36):
Like that's basically where it happened.
It was between La Ventana andBorrego area.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Yeah, there's some fun stuff out there.
Dude, it was so sick, you justwind up the whole time Was there
just that many lines?

Speaker 13 (01:53:47):
Yeah, I mean he would dart off to the right and
Gallin and I would stay on themain line, so I'd be like dude,
this has got to be faster.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Right and he would come back.

Speaker 13 (01:53:55):
Yeah no it was so sick.
You're probably like dude.
This is wild.
Yeah no, I was floored thewhole time.
I was like dude.
I was so much fun, dang that'scool man, hey.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
So, jeff, I'm going to ask Ethan the same question.
But how do you feel Ethan isdoing, since, you know, getting
a little bit more experience?

Speaker 12 (01:54:19):
You know I'm really impressed with his progress.
What he didn't tell you is thathe's got Brutus, his trainer,
that's been doing, really beenpushing him in the gym, you know
, outside the racetrack, andhe's he's building up his
endurance and his stamina.
Just really pleased with his,his progress and adapting to the
pace of of trophy truck.
I mean, let's look at theresults, right, you know, he, he

(01:54:41):
, he comes in fourth at KOH, hegoes podium at the mint and now
he's with the big dogs in mexicoand he puts up a seventh.
So I mean, from my perspective,I I love the progression.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
He's only going to get faster, um, so I'm just
really pleased with theprogression and the direction
that he's going yeah, that'scool, man and ethan like the
same thing for you, butanswering it a little bit
different of a fashion, rightlike we have.
Eva star racing's gonna come onthe show in just a little bit.
She's, you know, a young girland she's, you know, getting her
feet wet and off-road racing umand obviously wants to work her

(01:55:16):
way up the ranks and probablybe in a position like you
someday.
Like what kind of stuff do youtell people to um?
Follow in that same path thatyou're on?

Speaker 13 (01:55:24):
um, I mean really, it's just looking at every loss
or every race that you have.
So, like Adam and Cicero said,a winner is just a loser who
kept trying.
So it's just really going overwhat you lost and how to get
better at it.
So I mean, it's just, I alwayslook at it like, hey, we did
good, but I could have done this, I made a mistake here, I

(01:55:45):
should have done thisdifferently.
So I always think of how manydifferent ways I can improve on,
and I sleep on it.
I sometimes you just don't goto sleep because you're like
dang like what if?
And it's you can't really livein the what if world too much.
But you have to think of, okay,if I do this next race, what's
the outcome going to be?
And you just have to kind ofkeep building your mindset's the
strongest thing you know.
I mean physically you can do 200, like or 500 miles, but

(01:56:11):
mentally you can only do 150,because you're like, oh, I have
to get out, or oh, I'm doingthis, I'm doing this.
So it's really just mentallythinking okay, look, I can beat
all these guys in a truck.
That may not be as fast, but Ican drive, I can out drive them.
And then there you go.
That's at the end of the day.
You can't buy talent.
You can buy the best truck, butyou can't buy the talent to
drive it.
So it's just really thinkinglike you're the best of the best
and then just going from thereyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
So there's a lot of mindset that goes into that and
there's obviously like you youmentioned a couple times in
statements that you just said anaccountability, and you're
thinking about what you can beaccounted for and be better at.
I will tell you this, though wegot a really funny or a really
interesting comment from our boy, aj, back.
He said but nobody can wheelthe ridgeline like my man, jeff
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
I am kind of the.

Speaker 12 (01:56:56):
OG ridgeline driver.

Speaker 13 (01:56:58):
No.

Speaker 12 (01:56:59):
I'll let him have it .

Speaker 13 (01:57:01):
Let him have it.

Speaker 12 (01:57:01):
No way, man, I'm giving it all to Ethan.
I wasn't a TT driver.
It's a whole different pace outthere.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
But it's cool to see you guys work as a team, like
the stuff that you guys arestarting to accomplish, and you
know what people say, jeff islike they're like wow, you've
done really well and you're likeno, dude, this is just the
beginning and I feel like you'rereally it.

Speaker 12 (01:57:22):
Yeah, you know, I heard Toto Wolf say.
You know, the beauty ofmotorsports is that.
You know it comes down to beingdefined by the stopwatch.
The stopwatch tells the realtruth and until we put this
ridgeline on the top step of thepodium, we're not going to stop
working hard and pushing umourselves, the crew, the drivers

(01:57:43):
, the navigators, the truck,everything until, uh, we get
that first win for hrc yeah,totally has it been a pretty
easy uh, I don't know workingpath with the team, because
everybody seems to always bedoing their best on the team,
like it seems like everybody istrying so hard.
Yeah, we're definitely tryinghard, working hard.

(01:58:04):
You know it's always achallenge to get volunteer crews
, you know, to mesh, but we'vebeen fortunate to have some guys
that have been chasing usaround the desert for over a
decade and you know I can'tthank, you know, those crew guys
.
Enough to you know they, theyleave their jobs, their families
and dedicate, you know, a solidfive days down in Mexico for

(01:58:26):
our efforts and it, it, itreally goes, it's, it's really
uh, because of those guys, itallows us to come out with, you
know, a 43 second pit stop, a 50second pit stop.
You know, when we're taking 70gallons of fuel and two rear
tires.
So you know our pit stops havecome a long way too.
And, uh, you know it's, it's avolunteer crew.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Yeah, totally All right.
So I'll give you guys both theopportunity.
Ethan, you go first, throw ashout-out to whoever you want.
Oh man.

Speaker 13 (01:58:52):
I just want to thank Jeff for just giving me this
opportunity.
You know, I wouldn't be in anHRC showbiz show without Proctor
, so I mean just big thanks tohim, and then the whole team,
like you said, all the volunteercrew.
I mean my dad's out thereactually uh, really cool uh he
actually upgraded from mudscraper to a short course to a

(01:59:13):
tire changer for honda.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
So yeah, he's climbing the ladder.

Speaker 12 (01:59:15):
Glad to see he's moving up we promote from what
he's been yeah he's climbing theladder.

Speaker 13 (01:59:20):
But uh, yeah, no, I mean just my whole family.
I mean my sister loves it.
I mean it's just, it's soawesome to see.
She's like, oh, did you seethis happen?
I'm like, dude, no, I didn'teven see that.
But she's on on top ofeverything.
I mean it's just, it's a wholeteam effort and we have a great
team behind us.
So, yeah, we're going to go outswinging in Vegas Arena.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Big winner, though, is your mom for making me a
michelada, oh yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:59:39):
No, dude, she gets it done.

Speaker 12 (01:59:52):
Don't worry, she pre hard too.
She knows the good ones.
Uh, go ahead, jeff.
Yeah, I just want to thank uhevan weller and austin behind
the scenes and aj back uhprepping the truck for us, and
uh, max's tires.
They've got a we're.
We're racing on dot tires.
Nobody talks about that, butyeah, that's crazy.
We uh we're a top 10 trophytruck finishing team on dot
tires, but we've got a projecttire that we've been developing.
It looks like we're going tohave it before the thousand this

(02:00:13):
year.
So big shout out to Max's tiresfor all the support and
investing in this sport andcoming out with a project tire.
Uh KMC wheels.
Uh steel it coating steel hasbeen with us for six seasons now
and uh, just everybody outeverybody out there in HRC land
appreciate all the enginesupport and everything that they
provide for us.

(02:00:34):
And, last but not least, reallyexcited to be able to share
this with everybody.
This November will be our 10thyear as a factory Honda program.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
So that is impressive .

Speaker 12 (02:00:48):
Yeah, we can't wait to kind of share that story come
November for the 1,000.
Yeah, that would be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
What timing for right before the 1,000, too.
And yeah, kudos to MichaelMcFadden too.
He's starting to do a great job.
He's learning the ropes of theHRC team and, just you know,
coming into his own too.

Speaker 12 (02:01:05):
Yeah, super stoked to have young Michael on the
team and he's a great partner toEthan.
I've just got two stud18-year-olds.
Couldn't be happier.
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (02:01:17):
All right, well, thank you guys very much.
We're going to have a star onhere, See you guys.

Speaker 13 (02:01:21):
Great job guys.

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
See you, boss.
It's so cool man.
I always get so pumped up wheneverybody else is so pumped up,
Don't you, Renna?

Speaker 3 (02:01:31):
I love it.
This is why I keep doing what Ido All right, so we're going to
round out the show.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
We got about 15 more minutes with Eva, and then I
think her dad's going to join usas well.
So what's up, eva here?

Speaker 3 (02:01:42):
she is what's happening.

Speaker 5 (02:01:44):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
How are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Yeah, I got a couple of those stickers from somebody
at Contingency.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Dude.
I love that graphics kit.

Speaker 3 (02:01:54):
Yeah, it is so recognizable.
What do you think Gunnar woulddecorate his car like if he
could have it?
The reason why I have thestickers is because Gunnar had
to get them.
One of your guys were handingthem out.
My kid just had to have the UTVsticker.
He put them all over my icechest and everything.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
See, eva, you can be a young Asag fan oh yeah, Keep
the good rap going and peoplewill follow.
Hey, so all right.
First question how long haveyou been racing, eva?

Speaker 10 (02:02:26):
Since 2018, when I was 10.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
Hey, will you sit a little closer to your dad so we
can see you a little bit more,instead of just your left
eyeball?
There you go, since 2010, 18,2018.
And I got it.
I was, oh, you were 10.
I got it.
Okay, that's, that's kind ofcrazy to think, but you've been
racing for a little bit now.

Speaker 10 (02:02:56):
Are you really enjoying it or what?
Yeah, I like.
What's your, what's yourfavorite part about racing?

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
I like I think the adrenaline it's addicting, huh
does the adrenaline kick in atevery race, or yeah, pretty much
.
What about when you're battling?

Speaker 10 (02:03:14):
Does it get higher?
I think so, I think yeah, Ithink it does.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
How about dad?
Does dad get the adrenalinerush too when he?

Speaker 5 (02:03:25):
sees his daughter, or is it stress?
Oh yeah, man, that's like shehas to tell me to be quiet.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Oh, are you spotter too?

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Yeah, yeah, so I prep the car and I'm her co-driver,
since she's got into the Racer1000.
That's awesome, yeah, and she'sjust super calm.
You know, when she was racing170s, it was a land rush start,
you know.
So she was racing 170s, it wasa land rush start, you know.
So she was used to battlingright off the bat and, um, most

(02:03:54):
of her racing is has been inbaja through the corvitos kids.
Uh, when she was in a 170 andum, yeah, she just stayed in
baja.
She wanted to stay in baja.
That's hey, that's kind ofcrazy.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yeah, so, sean, you have a little bit of racing
underneath your belt as well, soare you able to pass some, some
information and some knowledgeand some advice down to eva yeah
, I try my best.

Speaker 5 (02:04:20):
I mean um.
When we started racing um in 85, 86, my dad, we were in a 516
and I went with my uncles androberto's taco shop bug 516 and
um I got to race as class 11 umagainst some, some greats like
eric salorzano, shared the,shared the wheel with him a
couple times um, raced the 7100truck, won a race over there and

(02:04:44):
did pretty good at parker youknow 2006.
So, um, I think racing limitedcars, uh, I got the mindset of
kind of just saving the car andI try to instill that in her,
like we can't win unless wefinish the race.
Yeah, and she's perfect for theutv class.
Yeah, and she's really good atsaving the car.
You know, they're a really goodfinishing ratio and and that

(02:05:08):
was just a really smart driveryeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
And so, eva, do you take a lot of that advice from
your dad, or do you go?

Speaker 10 (02:05:14):
oh man, I'm gonna do it my way well, I I do take a
lot of it in and I do listen tohim, but I do try to not at the
same time, because I like tohave my own driving style and it
does end up working out in theend.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
What do you mean your own driving style?
Do you drive a lot differentthan what your dad um?
I don't know, you to suggest orhow he drives, because there's
a like I don't know how to sayit, but there's a big difference
in the way that people perceivethings right, and women
perceive things a lot differentthan men and they do things
different.
But something somebody thatalways told me, that I always
listen to and remember, was thatwomen have faster reflexes than

(02:05:54):
men.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
Yeah, that's probably true.

Speaker 2 (02:06:00):
Do you think it's true, Eva?

Speaker 10 (02:06:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:06:05):
Like I take chances and I get aggro sometimes.
You know, I'll use all thecourse, I'm used to class 11 and
she likes to stay on the course, she likes to follow the
markers.
She makes clean passes, like Ican get up in your bumper and
I'm I get really aggressive, youknow, and she just takes her
time and it works.

Speaker 3 (02:06:24):
Have you guys had any fights in the car?

Speaker 10 (02:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
I've raced with my brother as a co-driver and,
believe me, it's fun until itisn't.

Speaker 5 (02:06:37):
I've been fired a few times.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
No, what happened, Ella?
You can't put that one on air.
Yeah, you're not allowed totalk about it on the dirt.

Speaker 5 (02:06:51):
I'm going to turn your intercom off.

Speaker 2 (02:06:56):
That's kind of cool, though, that you guys have that
Like.
You guys can get past that,right, Because it takes a lot.
It takes a strong family, andyou really have to learn a lot
about people, people around you,like how to control your temper
, all of these different things.
Right, Like it's I don't know,it's always one of those things
that just makes you grow as aperson, right, Eva?
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:07:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:07:17):
It's a stressful situation in that car, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:21):
Have you ever had any wrecks?

Speaker 10 (02:07:24):
Wrecks.
No, we've gotten stuck insomebody's bumper before, though
oh really what happened well,my bumper was like curved kind
of, and it got stuck oh, likehooked in there, yeah yeah, like
, yeah, like the hook.
Oh.
So what did you?

Speaker 5 (02:07:43):
do.
She didn't want to move and sheshe pressed the issue.
There was some the guy that shepassed came up on us real fast
so we got kind of sandwiched soshe went, yeah, so she hit, she
hit the car in front and and um,and then the other car hit us
from behind and like push thebumper into the other car.
That was at a record race it'snot a San Felipe which she drove
like almost the whole race, wow.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
Did you?
Drive the entire race of theBaja 500?
.

Speaker 10 (02:08:13):
No, I was going to do half of it, but I got out at
VFG Pit 1 because I startedgetting nauseous.

Speaker 2 (02:08:26):
Did you get back in the?

Speaker 10 (02:08:26):
car I got back in at the last 30 miles of the race.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
And you felt it.

Speaker 10 (02:08:34):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (02:08:37):
So I jumped in the car at EFG pit one, we put in a
message and we called ourco-driver, alan Yost, and he was
ready.
They jumped the gas, we took itover the summit and then we got
it to mile 260, in which ourother driver was there ready to
get in the car, and, um,surprisingly we were in second
place awesome oh, that's coolnot far behind either.

(02:08:59):
So, um, yeah, everything wasworking out.
Car was working, rad did somegood passes and, um, she was
ready to go.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
You know, when the driver brought it around up to
host negro, she wanted to do thefinish yeah, so how did it go
for you all around, ever like,where did you cross the finish
at and how did you feel for thatlast stint?

Speaker 10 (02:09:18):
I didn't like it.
It was different becauseusually I don't drive at night.
I don't think I've raced in thenight in this car, so it was
different.
And also we were in themountains, so it was was like
foggy I've never, but you pushedthrough it, right?

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
Oh, yeah, through a European and all that stuff, it
gets super foggy yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:09:40):
She took some good lines.
There was a couple of linesthat I uh that I learned from
Tim Martin um riding with oldTim Martin motorcycle, baja
bound uh adventures.
And she took the line on theway out, on the start, and then
she took the same line in on theway back.
I've heard all that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
What was your favorite part about the whole
race?

Speaker 10 (02:10:04):
I really liked the start and the finish.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
That's usually everybody's least favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
Yeah, I was going to say you didn't like any of the
other stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:10:16):
Well, I do, but I think I like that part the most.

Speaker 3 (02:10:20):
The technical, tighter stuff.
Yeah, it's just a lot of action.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
Yep, we saw the Honda guys come by us.
Both of them came by.
At the same time At the sametime, and we got the footage of
the start, the star stream, andthat was incredible, you know.
I mean that just really adds somuch to our, to our, to our
racing program, the marketingpart of it, and also to get to

(02:10:46):
get all that out to the fans outthere and some of our team that
can't make it to the races.
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
Well, it probably helps mom get a little bit more
comfortable with being able towatch.
Yeah, to hear the bickering,she's like I'm going to turn the
volume down and just watch.

Speaker 3 (02:11:10):
It watches.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
I didn't know they were that angry what did you
come across the finish line?
What place?
We came across in third andwere you proud of that, or do
you want to do better next time?

Speaker 10 (02:11:22):
I think that's good.
I just wanted to finish yeahwell, just like what.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
Who just said it?
Joe was saying first you gottafinish, especially in Mexico.
Yeah Well, just like what did.
Who did?
Who just said it?
Joe was saying first you got tofinish.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
Especially in Mexico, she came across.
Third, it was like 18 and ahalf hours we had about.
We had some parts failures thattook us out about three and a
half hours.
Like I said, we were rightbehind the Honda team and then
we got on one of those forbiddenroads just for about 300 feet
up through the mountains and, umthe morning time I think we got

(02:11:54):
fourth place.
I went to score and wanted tocheck out the.
Uh, you know what happened withthe BCPs and the guy oh, wait a
minute, you hit a forbiddenline.
That's four more hours.
So we like.
Oh, oh.
And the guy looked at me maybeyou shouldn't have come here.
And the guy looked at me maybeyou shouldn't have come here
really man.
But you know what super proudof her third place, baja 500,

(02:12:18):
you know, even though they tookit, you know we lost that.
But her first race was SanFelipe and she got second place
there too, you know.
And then the race before thatthat was a big race was a third
place at the Mint about a yearago, so that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
Things are going good yeah, yeah, are you proud of
yourself?
You should be really proud,yeah she just wants more.
She wants to keep going that'sexactly what I was gonna ask
ryan yeah, like what's?
What's on your like dream orbucket list now?
Like, are you gonna race?
Uh, you know any more big racesthis year?
Like, what are you going to do?

Speaker 10 (02:12:53):
I'm doing the rest of the score season this year.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
It's a big commitment .

Speaker 5 (02:12:59):
Yeah, yeah, she, since right now she's currently
third in points, you know, uh,behind Petter and um and groom.
Congratulations out to allthose guys in our class.
They did a heck of a job andwe'll show up at the 400 and
she's going to try to drive theentire race and if she gets
tired, you know dad will bethere.
But you know I don't, I don'tplan on getting in that driver's

(02:13:23):
seat at all, because I thinklast year you rode with who,
With Cisco, With Cisco BO.
Yeah, so she, she really wantsto take it up through the
mountains and up that coast Dude, it's so fun going through
those.

Speaker 2 (02:13:36):
It's a blast those areas of Mexico are so cool,
you're going to love it.
Hey, do you do?
We asked Ethan Ebert just asecond ago like if he's been
working out and training,because when he first got into
UTV, like I feel like he wouldtell you the same thing too,
like he thought he was ready buthe wasn't quite ready.
Are you like doing anythinglike that?
Are you like on a special diet?

Speaker 10 (02:14:01):
Do you do anything specific that you want to to
better yourself in the future?

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
I don't do anything.
Well, you don't have to, butI'm asking that question what
would you do if you didsomething right?

Speaker 10 (02:14:13):
I haven't really thought about that, you can go
train with George.

Speaker 3 (02:14:17):
He road bikes for hundreds of miles.
At that age she can eatanything.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
That's perfect.
Well, I really appreciate youcoming on the show, Eva.
It was cool talking to you.
Do you have anybody that youwant to thank before we let you
go?
Well, I really appreciate youcoming on the show.
I thought it was cool talkingto you.
Do you have anybody that youwant to thank before we let you
go?

Speaker 10 (02:14:32):
Well, my dad and my mom.

Speaker 2 (02:14:40):
Is your mom watching behind the scenes right now?

Speaker 10 (02:14:43):
No, I don't know where she is.

Speaker 3 (02:14:45):
It's all nervous.
I think she's in the house.
She didn't want you to put heron blast.

Speaker 5 (02:14:53):
We got BF Goodrich, rugged Radio, shreddy.
Shreddy takes care of Blake,loki and them.
Mobile Sewing Machine Repair.
Baja Bound Insurance hooks upthe cars and stuff Fox Shocks.
The car was workingunbelievable.
I don't know if you've seen anyof those stories she put up,
but it looked like she was justriding on pillows and they did a
lot of testing with her.

(02:15:13):
You know, the week before therace, a benchmark performance.
Chris and Landon out there gotthis thing dialed in
Transmission.
They do all of our drivetrainand our tuning.
Baja designs, prp, star mounts,star Stream, of course, and
Trinity and Heat Shields.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
Hey, so one of the sponsors that I heard on there
was pretty non-endemic.
That's a sewing company.

Speaker 5 (02:15:40):
Yeah, that's our buddy, eddie Chaka, so I don't
know if you saw us inContingency, but he came with
the big boom box.
Yeah, I didn't see that Mobilesewing machine repair, and he
repairs sewing machines and he'smobile.
There you go.
They say if you want to makemoney you've got to specialize
in something.
And Eddie's doing that.

Speaker 10 (02:15:59):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (02:16:01):
He also donated a Polaris Razor 1000 for her to
pre-run in all season long.
That's huge, yeah.
So, eva, we talk about this allthe time, and Ryan knows it
better for her to pre-run in allseason long, that's huge.

Speaker 2 (02:16:11):
So, evan, we talk about this all the time and Ryan
knows it better than anybodyelse when you can get a sponsor
that's not like a tire sponsor,that's called non-endemic,
meaning it's outside of thenormal racing world, you hold on
to them for as long as you can,because those sponsors are very
, very valuable and it bringsmore eyes to our sport because
they can show it to people thatdon't usually watch it.
So keep him on your on yourradar for as long as you can and

(02:16:33):
help him out.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:16:35):
Yeah, it's cool to see that stuff.
Yeah yeah, he used to pit forthe one a quad, like years ago,
so he has some roots and he'stied into the Ledesma family.
You know five to600 legends.

Speaker 2 (02:16:50):
That's so cool.
All right, Eva, thank you verymuch for joining us on the show.
Please tell your mom thank youas well.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
Good job at the 500.

Speaker 5 (02:16:59):
Hey, thanks a lot, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:17:01):
See you guys later, later, george.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
Bye Later, rhino.
All right.
So thanks to all our sponsors.
We really appreciate everybody.
I'm sorry I didn't mention atthe beginning of the show
because, well, uh, we startedoff pretty quickly.
So thanks to the guys over atevolution power sports, thanks
to everybody at uh, kmc wheels,thank you everybody at shock
therapy, vision canopy, zolinger, racing products, uh, and I'm

(02:17:26):
probably forgetting somebodyelse.
But thank you to all oursponsors, all our partners, and
thank you guys for watching theshow.
See you guys next time.
Peace.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show.
See you next week.
We'll be right back.

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