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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
This is episode 3 of Bella'sCorner.
I am Bella Brashard, your host,and this is my co-host.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
George Hamill hi guys , it's good to see everybody.
Man, there's a lot of racinggoing on, bella.
I know it's happening lately.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah so.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Baja 1000 is coming up.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, Baja 1000.
We got series endings andchampionships to look forward to
.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, there's only what Eight weeks for the rest of
the year.
Yeah, it's getting pretty close.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like one more race in the best in the desert, I
believe.
So it's getting there.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
When you're a racer or when you're an off-road
person.
This is the best time of theyear too.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
We just got on a campraiser.
Oh yeah, Everybody's winding uptheir series championships and
stuff dude the ending year, newcars, new wraps, new suits Dude,
Excited.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm excited for your show.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I feel like you're getting pretty good at this
podcasting thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I mean it gets a little nerve-wracking.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, it's a lot of work, though, right.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Right, there's a lot of work that gets put into it,
but I couldn't do it without you, so Well, you're doing a good
job, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You could definitely improve, like all of us can,
like racing and life andeverything.
So it's good that you have thementality to get better, right,
and I think a lot of our guestshave the mentality to get better
too.
So who do we got today?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
We have George Lemosis, we have Rowan McGrath
and we have Sarah Price comingon.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's a pretty good versatile lineup that you got
there, yeah, so give us a littlebit of a breakdown of each of
those people.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.
So Sarah Price is from SouthernCalifornia with multiple
championships on two and fourwheels.
She also has an X Gamesmedalist and is currently in
preparation for the Dakar Rallyin January.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, she's an awesome human being too, right.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, yeah, accomplishing a lot, so that's
for sure.
And George is 14 years old,from Riverside California, so
everybody's pretty much fromCalifornia.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Hey all these Southern California's dude
Hometown.
Oh, where are we at?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh, we are at West Coast Motorsports slash, west
Coast Racing Services, so thisis our new shop.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
You can see the deuce deuce Where's my finger at?
You can see the deuce deuceright behind me.
Right, that's your brother, BigCruise with Shard.
Oh yeah, that's his shortcourse race car.
What is that?
Rs1.
And then behind us we have Isthat his car?
Yeah, it's orange.
So it's his car, right, yes?
And then hiding behind there,you got your two cars too.
Yeah, those are getting readyfor the next race, but it looks
like Roland joined us, sarahPrice just joined us, so we're

(02:44):
going to get them on here.
So, as Sarah, we're going toinvite Sarah on real quick.
I just want to thank all of oursponsors.
Why don't you say the first fewsponsors that we have that we
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Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Go for it.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I would love to thank Motul for everything, evil
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Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, They've done a lot for the Dirt Life Show as
well.
So thank you to all thosecompanies.
Thanks to the guys over atMaxis Tires they have some cool
stuff happening at SEMA, so gocheck them out.
If you're over in the Las Vegasarea.
You guys can also listen toJail Audio too.
Like follow their Instagram.
They've been doing such coolstuff.
We camped out with them at CampRazor Killer time with all
those guys.
Thanks to the guys at ShockTherapy Always fun hanging out

(03:27):
with those guys as well.
Thanks to the guys over atVision Canopies and Zoolinger
Racing Products.
Alright, you ready, we're goingto get Sarah Price on here.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Hey guys, hi, how are you?
I'm good, how are you Good?
You're killing it over thereJust talking all smoothly.
You're such a pressure being onthere.
Thank you, thank you so much.
This is your shop.
What?
This is your shop.
All the cars, yes, yes, I'mobsessed with shops and we're

(03:58):
currently building one.
Okay, and I'm in love alreadywith your shop.
Alright, guys, how are youGeorge?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
There you go.
Did you see the shop?

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I did.
Yeah, that's my dream rightthere.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, it's a work in progress, but we're getting
there.
So I wanted to start off withyou have a long history of
racing and just talk about likeyour goal in the end and, what's
more, like one more thing youwant to add to like the list of
accomplishments that you have.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, yeah, I have to say I pretty much have like a
list right in a way.
I've kind of made one over theyears and things always change,
you always evolve, you alwaysneed to act and things kind of
opportunities pop up, so you endup going in different
directions than you originallyset out for.
But the one thing at the top ofmy bucket list has always been

(04:53):
Dakar, okay, and this year, from2015, I've been trying to make
it happen and this year I'mfinally like you know what?
Nothing's stopping me.
I'm going if I get thesupporter or if I don't, yeah,
and I put that in my head and Iput my focus on and that's
exactly what I've set out to do.
And it's just kind of crazy,when your heart's in the right
place and you really set yourmind to something, to watch it

(05:16):
unfold and actually happen isjust incredible.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Actually I have a question for Sarah, like going
on that same thing so you kindof mentioned it like you have to
be very flexible and very like.
When you're, like when you gofulfill your dreams, you have to
like ride this wave right, andsometimes the wave changes
directions and you have to beable to adapt to those things.
I think, first of all, that'svery cool that you're doing that
, because that's a difficultthing for people to do.

(05:41):
Most of the time they just wantto follow the path right.
But what does it take to dothat?
Do you like go a little bitback, backtrack a little bit?
Like do you have a vision board, do you have a dreams, do you
have a list?
And then you follow that andthen just make those adjustments
as they come?

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, actually I just shared it with my good friend,
cynthia yesterday I was lookingat my goals list.
So I have my mental coaches andyou know, through my whole
career I've had personaltrainers, and motorcross
obviously and all that stuff.
So I've had a lot of guidancewhere I've picked and like,
taken things from certain peoplelike that I really liked and
kind of came up with what worksfor me.

(06:18):
And now I actually do write itdown and I just shared it with
Cynthia yesterday my two yearsago goals and it's quite crazy
like to see someone that I didalready achieve and I always put
it in short term, midterm andlong term goals.
But I always know that kind ofeverything goes in the revolving

(06:40):
circle and so as long as I'mracing, I think it always is
helping your goals.
If racing is your end dream,it's something in racing as
you're entering, like that carright.
So anything I've done up tothis point it was kind of like
oh, I know this is getting me atleast one step closer.
Like, for instance, extremeeI'm doing Extremee in racing
worldwide while I'm meetingthese people that could possibly

(07:01):
get me closer to that car right.
So it's like you take thisopportunity and make the most
out of it.
But then you always have thatin the back of your head kind of
like, well, my end goal, likeeventually, years down the road,
I want to go there.
And then it just kind of crazy,like when you think it, when
you put it out there, it justkind of starts to happen.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, totally.
And then, like one thing thatmy dad taught me I think I may
have actually said this to youbefore, sarah, but is eating the
elephant one by the time, right, like you can't eat a whole
elephant, they're massive, butyou can definitely start
chipping away at it, and that, Ifeel like, is one of the best
pieces of advice that you prettymuch were leaning on just right
there, and it's saying it in adifferent way.
Yeah 100%.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
And you know, one thing that I've struggled with,
which is, I think a lot ofpeople who are racers,
especially in rural ADD brainout.
We want to do it all and it'sso hard to say no right.
And this year and last year, Iwould have to say, was the
toughest years for me to learnthat, because I really wanted to

(08:01):
focus and make this, that cardream, happen, and so I've
turned down a lot of things inorder to make that happen and
focus on that 100%.
But then it's crazy because themoment you focus on it, like
things happen like I've neverfocused 100% on UTV racing until
this year and then we go outthere, get with all sup and it's
just like absolutely killing itanywhere we go and it's just so

(08:23):
cool to see because it's likenot only is it the vibe tie, you
have good people around you,but the results show when you're
in the right spot and that'sexactly what's setting us up to
be able to take on that car andyou know how success that
hopefully we're going to havethere.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Bella, that's massive advice right there.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah no.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like to be able to focus that hard.
Yeah, conor McGregor says thesame thing.
You just have to be like just100% laser focused on every
single task that you do to getto that car, like her.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I totally agree with you on like, how the short
term goals like lead to thelong term goals.
But you really have to have apassion for it because you won't
have enough motivation to getthrough it.
But exactly.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, I totally agree with you.
Yeah, it's not going to be easyand everyone's like.
For instance, you know, peoplelook at Instagram and social
media and they think everyone'slife is just incredible and it's
like, and it is, but doesn'tmean there's not hard times,
does it mean there's been a lotof hard times, you've gotten
through to get to that point,you know, and then it's like, of
course you want to focus on thepositives and everything, but

(09:26):
be prepared, because it's notthe ones that fall, it's the
ones that get up.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Are you talking about hard times, like getting chased
by ducks attacking you?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
That duck died, by the way?
No, it was so bad.
No, yeah, what the heck.
Everyone wanted to tell me hedied too and I was like thanks,
I feel bad.
I know, that's so sad.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
He tried from the incident, but he died.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
He was a girl.
This whole time I didn't know,and I guess it might have
attacked someone and it tased itor something, I think, and then
had an egg stuck in it and so Iguess it was a girl.
This whole time I was gone so Ihad nothing to do with this
duck tragedy, but my neighbor'sa share told me about it.
He said that someone took it tothe vet and oh dude way to

(10:12):
bring it up, George.
So Henry was a girl.
Rest in peace.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Oh man, that is crazy .
That is crazy.
What else you got, belle?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I wanted to talk about the road to Dakar too,
like how many stages that youraced in the last rally and kind
of what was your favorite andstuff like that.
So tell us about that.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
So Road to Dakar is kind of like a campaign that
Jackson Motorsports, who they'revery big with BF Skidrich, they
came on to help me campaignthis whole thing, so it's a way
for people to be involved in,like it's a campaign that you
guys go to my website, followalong.
There's my hashtag, theofficial.
Everything in my journey toDakar and in Morocco we raced

(11:01):
five days of actual racing plusprologue, and so Morocco is
known to be, I guess, a lotharder than Dakar, which is.
I did not know this until wegot there, and then they were
all saying how, yeah, I drovethe Dakar.
Oh, you can win a ride with me,by the way.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, Dude her website's good Look at that.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
That website's got big flex on it, dude.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Oh, thank you.
I actually been doing it myselflately Like I feel like I just
did jack of all trades anymore,Dude this is what it takes to
achieve your goals.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
right there, you got to be a computer scientist as
well.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'm taking notes right now.
You just can't see it.
I seriously don't sleep.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I stay up all night and I like Google stuff.
Yeah, like, how do I do this?
And it takes me probably amillion times longer than a
professional would, but at leastI get it done Right.
But no, morocco was crazy.
It was a very challenging rally.
I guess the navigation wastougher than normal because I've
never raced a real stage rallyright, so this is all new to me

(12:03):
and it was a lot rougher than Iexpected and it was long days, I
would say most of the days wereabout.
We were anywhere from eight to12 hours a day in the car, so
it's basically like doing theBaja 500 every single day.
That's wild, and yeah, but thefirst day we got lost a little
bit, which is totally normalbecause we were racing using

(12:25):
Veeps.
So oh, wow, yeah, yes, that'show we navigate, so we don't
have the DPS or anything.
That's crazy, yeah.
So, jeremy, he absolutelykilled it and he was kind of
thrown right in the deep end.
And then after that, the nextday, we killed it, got our first

(12:47):
stage win, which everyone wasjust like this is a fluke thing.
I'm like maybe it is, I don'tknow.
Congratulations, by the way,thank you.
I was definitely emotional.
I came back because, like I'mnot going to cry.
And then I was like just tearseverywhere, yeah, like who cares
?
I wanted this so bad.
And then we backed it up and wewon the next thing, yeah.
And then I was like, okay, thisis enough fluke saying.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Can I say something quick here?
Because, like, when we're justtalking about the dream, the
journey, like all of thesethings that you're putting 110%
effort into a lot of people thatare successful, they talk about
these same things and thoseemotions that you felt when you
crossed the finish line.
You're like, oh shit, likethere's a milestone that I just
achieved and a lot of peoplewill lose it.
Like they stood, like you said,they start crying and all of a

(13:33):
sudden there's a little piecethat most people don't have that
you do at the end and that'skeeping the excitement alive,
Because that piece usually fallsoff and since you're able to do
it, that's a massive win foryou.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
I didn't want to believe it, tobe honest, and so it's like the
tears actually didn't totallyhit until I saw like our crew
there sitting there.
I had one of my best friendsfor absolutely ever.
She came with me to Morocco andshe's my PR manager and she
kind of helps manage everythingand that's what she does full

(14:10):
time now.
So it's kind of cool to see herprogress with me and she's been
a part of my career since thestart.
And then I've seen her and then, you know, I see monsters
standing there monster Joe,ricky and then everyone's like
all our mechanics, everyone'sclapping.
When we came in and I was justkind of like, oh my gosh this is
real, this is happening.
And it's like okay, now theemotions are coming off, yeah,

(14:33):
but it's pretty incredible andyeah, I think our first World
Stage Rally we got second isjust that's incredible.
Most people don't really finishvery well their first time and
that's why we wanted to go toMorocco and so now we kind of
really set the bar a little high, like, okay, we have a lot to

(14:54):
look to, right, I'm excited andit was great.
We learned a lot and me andJeremy just worked so good as a
team and you know, he's just thenicest guy ever, such even kill
attitude and just always justpositive, and I think you have a
lot of good times coming aheadfor that.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, the whole great family Fantastic.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, yeah, I know, and Sadie Sadie did that.
Sadie, bella Sadie.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Gray.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Right, yeah, I think she wants.
I'm not really sure, but I wanther to come on the show for
sure.
She's amazing.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
She's like, she looks like brave cartoon character.
Her hair is so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Dude, it really is.
Yeah, she makes a lot ofjealous of that hair.
I think she just joined us too.
So, hi, sadie, if you'rewatching.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Hi Sadie, hi Sadie.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right.
What's next is we only got, Ithink, three or four more
minutes left of Sarah.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I had a quick question.
You were talking about being inthe car for like eight to 10
hours and like basically how itwas.
Like Baja races back to back toback, what was the like eating
situation and drinking water andjust taking care of yourself.
You know, tell me that I loveit.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
I love how you asked me this.
I seriously live off fruitsnacks.
I love fruit snacks.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Like Gushers, gushers .

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Jeremy Rook whipped out some Gushers and I was like,
and Sadie told me she was goingto pack them for him.
And then, like, all of a sudden, he was hiding out on all these
good things.
He seriously whooped outGushers.
He had fruit by the foot, fruitroll up.
But I was like, dude, wherehave these things been this
whole time?

Speaker 3 (16:32):
He like halfway through the race.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
He's like here yeah, I want to present.
I had an all the time.
I had like welches and lotslike regular fruit snacks, yeah,
and I'm like just chowing downover there and like I usually
have a crustables but wecouldn't get those in Morocco.
So, yeah, there's fruit snacks.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Dude, why is he yeah, why does he got a hold out on?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
you, jeremy, god, I guess he's two and a half right,
bro, what you out on bread andBlueberries.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wait, we're about to also про call a host for eating.
Reiterate grad 너n, I must dothat into science development.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
At the end of an or part of the one or two of each
other.
But yeah, no, I think,coca-cola, and or a monster,
sometimes like the zero sugarmonsters I love, but with a
crustable game changer that is,and then Advil with caffeine.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, what?
Yeah, all that stuff helps you,Like if Sarah knows that stuff
from like motocross cause ithelps thin out your blood and
you can get like less tired andfatigue and stuff.
Like, yeah, it helps the waythat your body processes the
oxygen and stuff so you can evenbreathe better.
Like, yeah, it's crazy how theall the science behind it.
That's a good question thatBella asked, though, Sarah,
because Bella is always lookingto improve herself too, Cause I

(17:54):
don't know if you know this, butshe has like what a year or two
now with diabetes, and so she'sreally looking to keep herself
fit and to be able to do betterin her racing.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Oh, wow, yeah, that has to be like.
You have to manage that verywell.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely a process, but you
know, especially with all racingtoo, like you want everything
to work together.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
So yeah, look, show her your arm.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Oh yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
It's crazy.
Yeah, that's a.
I don't know too much about it,but my dad has it and so I've
kind of learned through hisprocess a little bit.
But yeah, I know that you haveto be super on your diet and
keep your sugars very level,right.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, yes, 100%.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But it always helps getting advice from people like
you.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, 100%, and any aspect Honestly don't be afraid
to eat while you're driving.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
I do it, I just sort of be like racing sometimes and
I'm like oh, I like to throw insome snacks and gummy bears.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
You can even eat a granola.
All right, let's go with onelast question, for actually you
got two last questions.
You can ask some of those.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, okay, what has been your favorite part of the
whole Dakar experience, likeoverall, just?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I would have to say, creating a little team within
the team, so like beingsurrounded by the people that
I've accumulated and that haveso much meaning in my success.
I'm so excited for Dakarbecause I feel like the team
I've been trying to assemble forso long is finally assembled

(19:28):
and not this year, it's shown.
That's why because you havegood people behind you, but like
one, having Mitchell also upthere is he's going to Dakar as
my mechanic, yeah, and thenCynthia is going as my manager
and PR person, and also havingJeremy there and possibly even
one of my main mentor, emilyMiller, who owns the Rebell

(19:49):
rally.
She possibly might even begoing as well.
And so I'm like kind of likedang, like I'm going to go to
Dakar just filled, like supersafe and super kind of like I
got all my people in need here.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
You know, already be dialed, it's so important having
a good like foundation and agood program and everything.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Put the mic a little closer, though it really is,
though.
Like I mean, teamwork is adream.
Work is kind of cliche to say,but like it literally is.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, it's true, yeah .

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I totally agree with it and like it just always, you
know, when you have good vibesaround you and it just works.
It's like like, for instance,how me and Mitchell work, like
since we came together andstarted working together.
It's like I kind of pick upwhere he needs help and then,
vice versa, he's picking up thishuge load that I've always
needed help to figure out andneeded whatever I could get from

(20:36):
it, you know.
So now my cars are living athis place and I don't have to
worry about that.
I can kind of do the rest of itand then focus on that 100%,
and I actually trust him amillion percent with my vehicles
.
We're like now he doesn't evenhave me in the equation, like he
doesn't even ask me questions.
He's kind of like what do youneed, what do you want, like
from this race?
And then I'll write like alittle list and then he just

(20:57):
handles it and then don't talkto him and then show up and it's
like, okay, cool, what'd you do?
I did this, this.
This cool, right, let's go.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
So she said the same thing a bunch of times.
The word focus.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh yeah, david realize that.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's because you have such good focus.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah well, mitchell actually brought that up last
time.
We talked to you like you doreally well at figuring out
where everyone needs to be inorder to do what you need to do,
and I kind of was like ithasn't always been that way, but
I've always dreamed of gettingto this point and I finally am
there.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
As of this year, I feel like Do you think, before
you ask the last question, bella, do you think that there's any
advice that you can give to like, say, bella, or some of the
younger people that are tryingto race and try to achieve their
goals, that can help them withtheir focus?

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I think look at it in what stresses you out the most
that you feel like maybe isn'tyour expertise right.
If you're trying to be thedriver and be the best driver
you possibly can, what can yousurround yourself by to take off
?
The other things thatnecessarily don't have to do
with that that can help you.
So, for instance, just likealso, I can't even over my cars

(22:12):
and I kind of like a hundredpercent trust and believe in him
to know that they're going tobe a hundred percent when they
come to me for me to do my job,and so it's things like that.
It's like handing off the PR toCynthia when I'm at the races
and me not having my phone shehandles and she makes sure
everyone's updated.
It's like so then I can focus.
You know, it's just all thoselittle things you kind of like

(22:32):
compartmentize, I guess.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yep, and you just break it down.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, yeah, not having as full of a plate to
handle, just focusing on the onething you want to succeed in.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Exactly, but when racing is done, trust me, my
plate's way too full yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well, her plate's really full right now too,
because she's got to go to SEMA.
So let's wind it up.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, let's wrap it up with who would you like to
thank your sponsors, anybodythat supports you.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Oh boy, I honestly like I can't thank all the
people that seriously stepped upto be a part of my program and
that itself is be of good rich.
They came out of nowhere with ahuge support for me to make
this happen and just for bybelieving in me and honestly,
it's by far the best tire to gothere on, because you definitely
don't want to be havingpunctures or flats.

(23:17):
Yeah, racine wheels, can-am a-ocoolers which you guys got to
get some the best and visioncanopies I know you guys threw
it out there before Vision Kyleabsolutely amazing.
I love that guy more thananything.
Super A-TV, rockford, fosgate,sparkle, obviously Alsup, jeremy

(23:38):
and can-am yeah.
So Thunder of my Name squeezes.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I was just over.
We're installing a star streamsystem on the vision canopies
car for the Baja 1000, so I waswith all those boys this morning
.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Oh nice heck, yeah yeah that's cool to see
everybody, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Did everybody's pumped.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Plus Doug has his bachelor party starting tomorrow
, oh boy, so you want to knowwhat's funny.
They got engaged at RJ's RiverHouse.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
And our property is the one right across from RJ's,
so our property was in thebackground getting worked on.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Way to schedule the construction work.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Gary, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Oh, that's crazy.
All right, well, let's thankher and let her get off to SEMA.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Thank you so much.
It has been awesome having youon here, and I've been wanting
you to come on here for a while,so I'm very thankful.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Aw, thank you so much , bella, and are you?
What's your next race?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
My next race is this weekend, I believe, in Cal City.
So Nice, yeah, exciting.
Oh, good luck, go out there andkill it.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Bye Sarah.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Bye Sarah.
Thank you for having me.
Yes.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Have fun.
Bye.
All right, you want to getGeorge Lemosas on?
Yes, I do.
Let's do it.
Go ahead, and you can evenstart the intro right when he
pops up.
How about we do that, let's go.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Hi, george, I'm good, how are you?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
What's up?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
dude.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
What's up, george?

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Dude, your hair is looking sick.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, I think I need to cut it.
It's a little too long.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Hey, you're growing it out, it's okay.
So George is 14 years old, fromRiverside California.
He is an experienced in desertand short course and
championships in multiple series, including first place at the
MITT 400 in the Youth 1000 class.
Congratulations, by the way,thank you Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It's a lot of work to just get there.
Yeah, it's pretty hard to getthere.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
What's that on your hat, dude?
Let's get a little closer tothe camera so we can see that
bad boy, chobee Buru.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah what's up?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Simon.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, all right.
So I wanted to talk about kindof like growing up in the racing
industry.
Like what type of you know haveyou made most of your
friendships in there, and likewhat kind of it that has has it
taught you so far, just like youknow, it's almost because it's
like it's like a life, not justa.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, I know it's basically another lifestyle,
like living somewhere else.
I live at my house and I liveat the track, so it's basically
that type and I mean I've made alot of good friends at racing.
It's just such a connectedfamily at the racing scene.
And, yeah, you meet a lot ofawesome people and growing up.

(26:38):
I mean, I started when I was 7.
I'm not 14, so yeah, I mean Ibasically grew up in the
off-road scene.
So, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
No, it's crazy the amount of friendships that you
make and then you realize, likedang, all my friends come from
racing.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Yeah, is that the way you do?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yes, I wanted to talk about your point standings in
the gas series.
Congratulations, by the way.
It was great, but like has itbeen a battle throughout the
series or like has it beenpretty solid for you?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's been a huge battle.
I mean we've been.
I've been shifting from secondto first.
I won the first gas race.
We got.
Round two we had.
We had a little slight mishapbut we still got some points.
Round three, we got, I'm prettysure, third, second Round four.

(27:33):
Round five round four I wasable to get second.
Round five I DNF'd.
And then these previous roundsfrom Chandler, arizona, I got
fourth and first.
So basically throughout thoserounds I've been shifting from
first and second and headinginto the finals this weekend I'm

(27:55):
separate.
Well, I'm in the lead by onepoint.
So it's going to be.
It's going to be a pretty bigbattle there.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, good luck to you for sure who are you?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
battling Connor Berry .
Oh, okay, yeah, no, and I'mpretty sure there's a lot of
other kids, well, kids andadults behind me too.
So anyone stay from both of usand we could.
It could be like a full pointof four, from fourth all the way

(28:23):
down.
It could be a fight for firstand this championship.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, that's cutting it close.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Josh Caperson just joined hi, josh.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah.
So I wanted to talk about howmuch effort does it take for you
to be able to like win racesand, more specifically, the time
it takes for you and yourfamily to be able to like
accomplish your goals and stuff.
Because I know it's not it'sobviously not just you, you know
it's your team, it's everybodyaround you that supports you.
So you know what.
What do you do?

(28:53):
You guys have a game plan andhow you go into the weekend, or
tell us about that.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
So so yeah, it's basically a game plan.
What people don't see normallyis that the week before, or even
like two weeks before that,you're already starting, for
you're already starting inadvance, you're starting to set
up the car, you're starting to,I guess, wash the car from the
previous race, cleaning thetrailer, sorting out everything,

(29:18):
and it's basically, yeah, it'sbasically a game plan, like you
said.
So, yeah, I mean there's a lotof prep that goes into it,
especially more in these 1000s.
You've got to check a lot ofbolts, a lot more basically of
everything.
So it's a pretty big game plan?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, does it take out of your like your daily life
?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
you know you go in the shop every day, or stuff
like that, I mean basicallycoming from school, I'll take I
guess like four hours, maybefive, to just work on the car,
just get everything set up andthen just continue tomorrow.
But after those four hours orfive hours I'll just start my
class like homework or anythinglike that.

(30:02):
So, yeah, yeah, basically likethat.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's a pretty full schedule.
Yeah, simon from Trophy Roadjust joined us too.
So what's up, simon?
That's a full schedule, though.
So, like when, when you thinkabout adults, right, bella, do
you think they have an eighthour day, work day, right, and
some can come home and justchill, some have to work with
their kids, some have to work onrace cars, all this stuff.
But George is learning that ata very young age, right?

(30:26):
So you have to go to school inthe morning.
You have to go throughthroughout the whole day and you
know the same stuff too, andthen putting in four or five
more hours with the work.
I mean, like you're already atlike dinner time area right
there, and if you still gotanything left over, you got to
eat dinner real quick and getback out in the shop.
Like that's a lot of work andyou're missing some of the I
don't know playtime, so to speak.

(30:47):
Right, like sometimes you don'tget to celebrate with all your
friends and stuff, but that'swhere you make friends with the
races, right, yeah, basicallylike that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So I mean it does take a little bit out of the I
guess playtime and but yeah,that's where we make friends at
the track and we do whatever wecan at the track before we race.
Yeah, hey.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So one thing I wanted to like mention was George is
bilingual too.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Oh OK.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
So he can.
He can translate a lot of stufffor his parents, for his family
, all that stuff.
So right there, that is a greatskill to have.
Yeah, because it's a feather inhis cap when he wants to go get
sponsors right, because now hedoesn't just have sponsors in
the United States.
He can go ask people in thatspeak Spanish to be able to
support their product, becausehe can talk wholeheartedly about

(31:34):
that stuff as well.
So like that's a massive Idon't know what you want to call
it bonus for him.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Right, even when you get older too, as you, like you
know, try to find a career andstuff like that through college
and stuff.
A lot of people tend to havelike a lot of respect for the
people that do know morelanguages or more than one,
because you can communicate more.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh, dude, he could probably order way better tacos
than we can oh definitely 100percent.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Probably.
I mean, I have connections here.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Look at this guy throwing out the sponsor
connections for tacos.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, even like the play time.
You were talking about justthat sacrificing thing that we
kind of talked about with Sarah,like being able, like to
understand.
You know I can't go do this onething today because I have to
do this for racing, but it allworks out in the end, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, do you guys feel like, well, let's, let's
ask George first, and then youcan chime in too, bella?
Do you guys feel like you'relosing out on the friend time or
do you feel like you guys arekind of moving ahead in the
direction that you want?
Like, what do you think George?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean it's kind of makes up both.
Sure, you do lose some friendtime, like schools from friends,
but I mean that's where youmake it up as well, at the
racetrack.
You make some friends overthere at the track, basically.
So, yeah, you lose a little bitof friend time but you make it
up with other friends at theracetrack.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I got you, yeah, I agree 100 percent.
And you're focusing on othergoals too.
People just always ask me thattoo.
They're like dude.
Why don't you come to thisparty?
Like I was racing professionaldirt bikes at the time and
they're like dude, come out,hang out, drinks, beers, just
hang out.
I'm like dude.
I got some goals, man.
I want to achieve this stuff.
And some people feel good doingit their way and then, like I
felt good doing it my waybecause, like it was like

(33:20):
keeping my heart hole, so tospeak.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, no, yeah, I understand you.
Basically, yeah, yeah, you'relooking to reach your goal.
So I mean you kind of like haveto zone into your goal only to
like actually complete it.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
So, yeah, no, I always say the good thing that
you know that at such a youngage too, because sometimes it
takes a lot.
Of people like to be, you know,more than halfway through their
life and realize oh dang, Ineed some goals.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well, what was that F word that Sarah Sarah Price
used?
F O C U S.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Focus oh me.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
If I need to go back to school.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But that focus was exactly what George is talking
about right now and you havethat focus.
It's cool that you'reunderstanding that.
But does that come just fromyour mindset, george?
Is that come from your wholefamily and kind of everybody
together, because your parentshave probably taught you a lot
of that being grounded and kindof seeing the vision that you
have?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah.
No, I mean it comes from frommy family.
I mean my dad used to domotorcycles here in Mexico, so
he kind of he learned it as welland he kind of passed it on to
me.
So I mean it's basically yeah,it's basically a family.
I mean I learned a little bitas well, but I mean my dad
probably is basically is yourdad fast.

(34:38):
Oh, he was pretty good inMexico.
Yeah, it was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Could you beat him on a dirt bike?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh, thanks, I mean I haven't ridden on a dirt bike,
well, okay, well, when I wasyoung I used to do dirt bikes.
Okay, well, I never.
Yeah, I had a 170, but I neverused it and uh, yeah, I mean I
would, I had races, I did theday in the dirt it was for like
kids and I did that, um,milestone, um, next to Walker

(35:06):
Evans, but uh, I I broke mycollarbone when I was like five
or six, so that basically likekind of like moved me away from
the bikes and I was just kind ofnot doing much for like a year
and a half.
I mean I did cross country, butuh, then then, um, well, I
think it was YouTube, I found170s racing and I was watching

(35:30):
with my daddy and my dad said,if you want to do it, and I said
, yeah, let's do it.
And we grabbed the 170.
It was an old carburetor, itwas like the first generations
of 170s, it was all carbureted.
So, uh, we fixed it up and Imean we took it to your dirt
series, Okay, and we said thereyeah, um, I think I got third,
yeah, I was third.

(35:51):
So, yeah, from there, I meanthat's where it basically
started, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Did you the first race in a 170, were you just
trying to send it as hard as youcould?

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I mean I I was trying to, um, it's just I didn't know
I really didn't use my 170 thatmuch.
I mean I used my motorcycleinstead.
And I mean I never really knewthe 170 at that point.
I just used it on trails likein the desert, but not like
racing, like what lines to take.
I mean I was probably justtaking the inside at that point.

(36:24):
Yeah, and that was the fact tosay.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Every time, every time I see the kids, Bill, I
don't know about you, but like Ialways get so pumped because
like you can tell that they'rejust so in the zone.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, 100%.
Some of them are focused morethan the adults are.
But I think it's pretty cool,Like you know, like looking back
on all of the stuff that youhave accomplished, you're just
being like dang, this is where Istarted and like this is where
I am now, and just kind ofcomparing and making new goals
as you get older.
That's really cool.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yeah, it's awesome.
I mean, good thing I found thatYouTube video.
If not, I don't think I wouldhave been right now.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, youtube saves the day.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And I'm right here.
I'm talking to you guys, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, Actually, since you talked about like the focus
and all that stuff, do you havelike a vision board too, Like
what Sarah Price is talkingabout?
Or like do you list out yourgoals like on a piece of paper?
Or like how do you do it?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Um, well, I have my goals kind of in my mind.
Um, there's a lot of goals, Imean ranging from desert to, I
mean, at pavement.
There's a lot of goals outthere and I mean you can pick
and choose, but there's one goalthat you're always going to be
set on, like focus on the most,and I feel like it's just moving

(37:42):
on through my career and tryingto get to a rank like a pretty
high rank, just to like let myname be out there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, like that Basically yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Hey, so hold on real quick.
I wanted to say thank youbecause you got to talk about
support and stuff.
One of the guys that justjumped on his name is Cody
Sanders.
You know, cody Sanders was thefirst co-host of the Dirt Life
show, really yeah.
So I want to say thank you tohim for jumping on too.
Uh okay, sorry, I didn't meanto disrupt you, bella.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I'm most afraid of weight.
I feel like I kind of forgotwhat I was going to say.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
That's okay.
You have a list right in frontof you.
Oh I do?

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I was going to mention that you kind of have
your toes like dipped in eachlittle thing you know with, like
desert racing and then shortcourse and then pavement.
So like out of all of thosethings you know, what do you
find like most thrilling to you?

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Um, well, I've, I'm, yeah, I've done my toes a lot.
I mean I've done rally, I'vedone um, I've done off road,
I've done desert, yeah, so Imean I've, I've kind of did my
toes everywhere.
Um, yeah, I mean, if I were tosay like, if I were to focus on
one thing only, I think it wouldjust like be on desert and like

(38:53):
go to Baja, at least Baja.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah Same, but yeah, that's a pretty good goal.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah it's, it's a pretty.
I think it's a pretty good goaland yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, well, I'm out of questions, but do you got any
for George?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
No, I just wanted to say like I really appreciate him
and his family, the way thatthey, uh uh I don't know what
you want to call it Likeappreciate the races that they
go to.
So every every time I see him,he's with his family and every
time, uh, they're going throughtech or whatever they're doing,
if they're conversating withtheir friends, their family,
their sponsors, whatever it is,they always have a smile on

(39:30):
their face and they're alwayslooking to do better and give
back, like that's what the wholeoff road culture and, well,
that's what life in generalneeds, right?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
And so if they can keep that going, he'll have a
very, very successful career, nomatter how he looks at it.
So I think it's fantastic thatyou guys are doing it that way,
man.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I think you have your head in the right
mindset, for sure.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, thank you guys.
Yeah, I know Um, yeah, I meanwe're just trying to enjoy
everything we can.
It's pretty hard to get toevery race, but here we are,
we're fighting in points for achampionship.
Uh, we're fighting for pointsin the desert championships.
So, yeah, we're appreciatingeverything, though, um, that
we're able to do.
And yeah, I mean it's awesome.

(40:11):
I love this community, thedesert community and the offered
community.
It's just an awesome communitythat everybody cares about.
Um, and I mean hopefully itgrows to something like a way
bigger, like it explodes.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, totally, and that's, that's all up to you,
man.
All you got to do is focus andput your goals there, Uh and?
But I will say this ConnorBerry is no slouch dude, so
you're going to have to step up.
Dude, but I feel, I feel like,however it goes down, you guys
are both going to win becauseyou guys are just going to give
it.
Your all, like both of yourfamilies, are fantastic and you
guys are just going to go hammerdown and see who the best man

(40:46):
wins.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, like the elbows are goingto be out there, uh, for the
last rounds, but yeah, it shouldbe.
It should be a cool experience.
I mean, I, in a sense, we'reboth going to win, with both
shown a lot of work over theseason.
So yeah, we'll see.
We'll see who's able to justget out there and get the top
spot.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah Well, good luck to you.
And to wrap it all up, um, whowould you like to thank?
Your sponsors, anybody thatsupports your program.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Uh, I got a lot of people, um, but especially my
mom and dad and my two littlebrothers.
They've been with me since thebeginning and without them and
their support, um yeah, I justwouldn't be here, right.
Um, also, all my friends at thetrack and at school.
They just pursue me to do thisand, uh, I got a bit.

(41:34):
Give a huge shout out to trophybro for helping me with
marketing and all that.
Um, he's helped me a lot togrow my page.
So, the infrastructure, um,god's Sam, performance for the
car, walker Evans, sparko forthe awesome suits, uh, what else
?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, who?
Who designs all that stuff?
Dude Cause you're alwayslooking so crispy.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Um, well, chris from Sparko, he helps me a lot, he
helps me out there and he helpsme choose the designs.
Um, but yeah, I also, I alsolike I, I go to his, I go to
Sparko and I always see thesedesigns and they're always so
awesome.
So, yeah, me and Chris uhpretty much work on the designs.

(42:18):
So, yeah, and yeah, I meaneverybody, everybody that
supports me, uh, they, they,they're just awesome.
I mean they're able to supportmy program, they're able to help
me grow to like a new potential.
So, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
And yeah, I just want to behere with all the yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Hey, well, I have one question before we get rolling
on real quick.
What's the best battle thatyou've ever had?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
on course, I mean top of the list dude.
I mean basically all these races, they've been the like the
biggest battles.
I mean production 1000 has oneof the closest battles you can
get, since the cars areidentically the same, they're
all the same way they almost saypower.
So I mean we've had a lot ofclose battles inside outside

(43:05):
shoving people out, but uh, yeah, I think I don't know, man,
there's too much.
There's too much really goodbattle.
So I think just over the spanof production 1000, there's been
a lot of good battles.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
I was.
I was thinking he was going toanswer.
It hasn't happened yet.
It's going to happen thisweekend.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Oh, yeah, yeah, the best battle will happen this
weekend.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
We'll see.
We'll see how it happens, we'llsee where it goes down.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Kick some butt here, kick some butt All right, thanks
you guys.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Thanks for inviting me here.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Later, see you guys.
Uh, all right, let's see if wecan get rolling on here real
quick, and then uh, I reallyliked how he appreciated like
family above everything yeah.
Like that's what I was sayingLike him and his family, like
they're a very tight knit group.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (43:49):
I mean yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's super cool to see.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Hi guys, hi Rowan Rowan, how are you Good are you?
I'm good, so Rowan is 17.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Okay, go for it, bella.
Let's give her an intro.
Rowan is 17, from Southern.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
California.
Um, she has experience racingshort course and is beginning
her career in desert racing, sothat's pretty exciting, very
exciting.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Hey plus, she just explained shreds dude, I know.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Um, I wanted to bring something up to kind of start
it, because we were talking alittle bit about, like some of
the other sports that you dothat aren't racing.
So I know I think it waslacrosse, right?
Yeah, I play girls lacrosse.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
I play for a club year round, and then I also play
for my high school.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Okay, and then you do flag football too, right.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah, girls, flag football just got added to my
high school as a new CIF sport.
Okay, this is like the firstyear it's happening.
I'm a senior, so I got lucky.
I'm excited.
Um, we're mid season right now.
We're going into playoffs innet not this week, but next week
and hopefully we can come outwith the championship.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, Dude that'd be so, dude.
What's Starly?
Or lacrosse or flag football.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
Um, I feel like flag football is a big thing.
I feel like flag football canget gnarly because there's a lot
of like rugby players that play, like those rugby players that
are playing this year, but it'sreally like they're really
cracking down on the rules where, like you can't, like you can't
have contact at all and likeyou have to be very specific

(45:36):
about what you do and what youdon't.
We're not allowed to spin whenwe have the ball, so you can't
like spin out of someone pullingyour flag, and so it's like
there's a lot of rules toprevent it from getting crazy.
I feel like lacrosse isprobably more gnarly.
Just because you have sticksand even though you're not
allowed to hit each other, likeyou still get bruises like all
down your arm.

(45:56):
Yeah, totally.
You also don't have helmets orshin guards and we wear goggles
they look really weird.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
That's so different than racing because you're kind
of just like in your own.
You know different.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, but it teaches you totally different stuff that
you can use like crossover,like in between them.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
Right, yeah it's.
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, I got myself busy you do, you're very sports
like.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Centric.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yes, very sports centric.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
How the heck do you manage all that?
I feel like that's so much time.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
So I go to public school full time.
Um, I race kind of just for fun, like it's a hobby that my dad
and I do together.
My sister used to race, butshe's really focused on the
cross, Like she's trying to goto college for it and she's
really good at it, and so shespends a lot of her time with my
mom at the fields and then mydad and I will go to the track

(46:54):
and or to the desert orsomething like that.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Your sister just joined too Like she should have
joined like five seconds agowhen you were talking about it.
Oh, she is.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Um.
So yeah, it's definitely busy,but I feel like we make it work.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's easy .
It makes it easier having likea whole family or like a whole
support system around you thatkind of helps you get to these
places and stuff 100%, because Ifeel like we, like Bergen and I
, both do the same thing.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
So she also plays five football.
Okay, she's just on JV thisyear because she's a sophomore,
and so then we're on differentteams for flag football, but we
play the same.
We play on different teams forclub because it's by ages, and
then for um high school forlacrosse.
She's really good at lacrosse,so she made varsity as a

(47:48):
freshman last year.
As yet to come it comes inspring, so we'll be playing
together again, yeah, but yeah,I feel like we have a lot of the
same interests.
So, like our family is a bigsupport system to each other.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, plus like um.
Well, I feel like Bergen has alittle bit of an advantage
because you can teach her someof the stuff that you learned
too.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
Yeah, I feel like I mean honestly, cause I started a
little later um in lacrossethan she did and her team is
probably better than my team isby being on the Michael for sure
Um so the student has becomethe teacher.
Yeah, she's better out lacrossethan I am.

(48:34):
Um, I used to play an offensiveposition in lacrosse and I
think this year I'm switching togoalie, so it should be a good
change and it'll be fun.
Yeah, for sure.
Beach girl at heart after aposition you play in flag
football too.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
What?
What position do you play inflag football?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
I play center.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Oh yeah, right in the middle, right in the mix.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Dude just getting her hands dirty.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I know Um kind of the same question that I asked
George um, cause I know you dohave experience in, well, yes,
both short course and desert,but you kind of have a little
bit of a history with shortcourse, right yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
So obviously my dad raised dirt bikes his whole life
and then he retired, like rightbefore I was born.
Um, he went on shortly afterthat to raise short course and
so I've I've grown up at theshort course track, like right,
that was like so fun for us kids, like we all just messed around

(49:36):
and had so much fun there.
There's so many memories.
Um.
So he raised short course andwhile we were at the races for
him, we would see like thejunior carts, okay, like the
little trophy trucks, yeah, andI would always see them and I
was like I just want to do that,I just want to do that.
And that was when Haley wasstill racing and like I was

(49:56):
friends with all of them and wewould like hang out at the track
and everything.
And I was just like I want tobe just like them, and even
though I was so much youngerthan her that's probably why my
dad did not start me any otherthan he did, cause I probably
would not have been able tocontrol myself yeah, um so, and
then Dude, they had some of thecoolest.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
uh, what are?
They called trophy carts orjunior carts, Like the brightest
colors and stuff at the track?
I remember seeing them and lookat some like damn that car's
sick.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
We had.
Mine was like paint splatters,so it was like rainbow paint
splatters from the front to theback and then all the like, the
whole roll cage and the rimswere like neon orange.
So I brought on orange into mydesert car.
So not, I haven't rate.
Well, wait, I raised the DPfour race in that car, but it's
pretty new so I haven't.
I haven't raised a big race inthat or like a longer race in

(50:48):
that, Right Um.
But my new desert car has thebright orange roll cage.
Just like my course, car does.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
You kind of forgot to tell everybody what happened at
DP four, though you may or maynot have tipped it on the side,
bro.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
I did do that.
I did do.
Um, I can't remember which lapit was on, maybe.
Third, we came around a cornerand I knew the corner was there,
but the ruts were so big, likethey were getting bigger and
bigger each time we came aroundand I came around and I just

(51:23):
came in too hot yeah.
We were like sitting there, likestraight to the side and then
there's no way we would havebeen able to get that back up.
Luckily there were.
It was so random, like the onespot there was camera guys out
there like that we're filmingfor someone.
I don't know who they werefilming for, maybe even DP four,

(51:43):
I'm not sure.
Um, they luckily had a razor,they had a floor seater and so
we were stuck and we get out andI was like there's no way, like
there's no, we can't pick it up.
Yeah, I'm not getting this backup.
And they luckily like came overand they were like oh my gosh,
you guys need help, because wewere right in the middle of like

(52:04):
the track, like we were goingto get hit.
So I was trying to like moveeveryone, like get all the cars
that were coming to go around usso that we didn't get hit
really hard.
Um, and then they hooked it upwith some tie downs and
everything and they pulled usback up and we kept going.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Dude cause, like Scott and I were in the pits and
some of your other crew and wewere like sitting there and
they're like dude.
Where the F did Rowan go?
Like she just cause we thoughtwe saw everybody else pass by
and she wasn't there.
And then they radioed in thereLike yeah, we flipped over, but
we're back going and we're likewait what?

Speaker 5 (52:35):
And it only like it only took like five minutes, I
mean I'm sure it felt for her,like I was a really short stop,
Like had those guys not beenthere, it would have taken much
longer and would have been Idon't even know what we would
have done.
Um, it was like five to 10minutes I want to say yeah.
And then, yeah, we kept on going.
I've never flipped a razor likethat before, so that was like

(52:58):
my first time and luckily it wasjust the die Like.
It wasn't like that.
I flipped a short course carbefore, but that was my first
time in one of those and I waslike it.
It wasn't, it was like the samething, yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
But it did.
It feel like gut wrenchingbecause you don't have the
safety crew to just like flipyou over cause you're like out
in the middle of the desert.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Well, my first thought was cause I flipped on
my co-driver side and so heunbuckled.
And then I unbuckled and I fellstraight to the ground and I
hit my shoulder really hard,Like my collarbone hurts so bad.
And so then I got out and I waslike I don't know what we're
going to do.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Did you smash Slade when you fell?
Fell in the car.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
No, I had him get out .
I did not brace myself forwhatever reason, I just took the
fall yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
She has other seatbelts and just slaps over to
the side.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
I feel like I tried to stop myself, but it really
didn't work.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It's crazy how desert racing puts people in positions
like that you wouldn't thinkthat people would have to do
this, but we do.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Yeah, had those people had those filmers or
camera guys not been out there,I seriously don't know what
would have happened.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, no, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Thank goodness.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
I know, thank goodness.
Then those guys came up at thefinish line and they were like,
oh, glad you finished.
I was like, yeah, thanks forhelping me, I would not have
finished, you did not.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Dude for real, she did good, she drove good all
weekend.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
Yeah, I think I ended up third.
Yeah, I'm going to wait.
Maybe third Congratulations I'mso bad at remembering stuff
like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Well, I just remember that your laps were really
consistent Before you biffed it.
We were like damn dude, she'scruising pretty fast.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Yeah, I really like the track that we were doing
there.
It was a lot of fun because,even though it's the same lap a
couple of times, it's like newevery time, because everything's
like the conditions arechanging so much, with how many
cars are on the track and goingat the same time, that each time
you came around it almost feltdifferent.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Dude, the ruts were so blown out those last two or
four laps.
Oh my God.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
So crazy.
I was surprised, honestly, thatI hadn't tipped it over before
that, because I was coming in alittle too hot to all of them
and I was putting it on the bikeand making my.
I was scaring myself, honestly,and I was like we just got to
keep going, like I can't stop.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
and then got the best .
Everybody, everybody comes toohot into a corner.
It's happened to all of us.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It's called pushing the limits.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, it might have not been a flip, but it was
definitely a tree, a coupletrees actually.
I saw that on your InstagramLike oh my God.
This happens to everybody,right.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I was thinking to myself, I was like dude, that
tree must have taken a beating.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That tree was gone, yeah, what happened to your
crash?

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Lucky with how it happened yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
The corner came in too hot and by the time you know
, because we ran out of breaks,like my breaks were completely
gone the first, I don't know 100miles maybe.
So by the time we got to thatcorner, I saw it, I was coming
in really hot.
There was no way I was going tobe able to back down and I just
I tried my best to steer clear,but you know it is what it is.

(56:37):
It happens it's racing, yep,it's racing, yep.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
What else you got?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Um, I got a lot kind of.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Hit it.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I do want to talk about what you want to
accomplish in the future.
So you've already accomplishedso much.
Just you know, finishing racesis a big accomplishment because
not very many people can.
But, um, kind of talking aboutlike what you know, what you
want to pursue in your likedesert racing career, because

(57:08):
you just started it.
So, like you know, what goalsdo you have?

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Yeah, so I've had.
I had a goal since freshmanyear, like before I started
freshman year of high school.
It was a big goal and I'm notgoing to be able to complete it
by the time I wanted to.
Hopefully in the future I will.
My goal was to race the Baja1000 before I graduated high
school.
Okay, I graduate in in May, sothat might have to wait at least

(57:38):
maybe a year.
Yeah, I just need moreexperience in everything.
I've never raced down in Baja.
I would love to do the SanFelipe 250 in the next year and
hopefully, like, go bigger andbigger from there.
Um, I am going to be attendingcollege, so I'm going to
university.
I don't know where yet.
That has yet to be a decisionin my household.

(58:00):
I've applied, but I have nodecision yet.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Um, do you have a preference Like did you apply to
a couple?

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Um, I kind of applied to a bunch, just because I
really have no idea where I wantto go.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
You're thinking like out of state, or so Cal.

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Um, I'm applying to SDSU but I think I'll end up out
of state.
I think I'll end up in likeArizona or Texas, Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
U of A right here.
I don't know if you've appliedto U of A.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
Oh really, yeah, I applied to U of A and ASU.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, perfect yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
So I'll be attending a college.
Hopefully I can, like, keepdoing some races on and off on
there.
Obviously, I'm going to be alittle further away, so it'll be
a little more difficult.
Yeah, but I want to keep racingfor sure, but my family kind of
just does it for fun.
So we just got to figure outwhere it takes us.
And, yeah, I want to stay inthe racing world though.

(58:56):
So, like, I want to major inlike sports management or sports
marketing or something likethat, to keep, like because I
love the community and I loveeveryone that's involved in
everything to do with motorsports, even dirt bikes, and
although I don't ride I used torace, but I don't ride Um, I

(59:17):
just I want to stay in it.
I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
I feel like you and Bella have a lot of the same
personality traits like thatbecause you guys both want to do
that, Like you both love racing, obviously, but the uh, like
the marketing and the media andstuff like you guys both really
dig that.
I think that's so cool yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
Yeah, I know.
I don't know how we haven'tlike hung out or done anything.
I know we have to Like.
I feel like we've never reallyhad a full conversation in
person.
Yeah, I know, I feel like wehave.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yeah, we definitely need to.
It's.
It's so nice being able to like, find someone that, like you
know, is also in the racingworld and that you can relate to
and actually have stuff incommon with.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Yeah, it's it's hard here because so I live in
Encinitas, california.
I'm right by the beach,everyone here surfs in skates.
Yeah, I don't care if we're infour skates, and so it's like I
tell people, like, if they ask,I tell people I race cars
because, like, they see myInstagram and everything and so.
But I feel like people don'treally understand what that

(01:00:19):
means.
Yeah, right, like for my school, just like most kids.
There's a couple that like noracing and stuff like that, but
most kids just don't know whatthat is or how it goes on or
what even happens.
So it's like I try explainingbut, honestly, if you really
have no idea, it's hard toexplain.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, it's pointless.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
And so relating to people and like finding like I
have a lot of friends here Don'tget me wrong but like I feel
like I always get along so wellwith people in the racing
community because they just likeunderstand everyone, Like we
just understand each other sowell, right, you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
have the same passion for something you guys were
just talking about, that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
I remember when I was going through high school as a
million years ago you guysweren't even born yet but the
yeah, it was hard because I wasracing.
I never got to your dad's level, but I was racing professional
dirt bikes and like all thesekids were like, dude, what is
that?
Like you always have a brokenleg or you always have broken
arm, Like what's wrong with you,and I'm like, well, they don't
get it, so it's pointless.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I mean yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I definitely.
Yeah, it's hard to.
It's just hard because everyonehere, like the surfing
community, is huge here, Like welive in a great surf spot,
we're probably like 20 minutesfrom the beach, okay, but it's
just like everyone's a surfer.
Yeah, does it ever make youfeel like left out or no.

(01:01:43):
I feel like I went through aweird phase in like middle
school and beginning of highschool that like I felt like a
little left out just because Iwas gone for racing all the time
.
Like we're traveling all thetime for whether it's my dad,
myself or someone like I don'tknow, I feel like we're always
at the races or somewhere at thetrack.
And so I feel like it was alittle bit hard being gone every

(01:02:05):
weekend when like everyone'shanging out and everything.
But I feel like I've learned tomanage it better and have like
figured out the ins and outs tohow to keep relationships.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
And yeah, those are actually like what she just said
is such a mature thing to sayLike well, yeah, I mean, like
your mom just said, to like youcan relate to that.
Yeah, it's, it's kind of crazybecause a lot of people and kids
, whatever, they don't learnthat until they go to work and
nobody's the same as them attheir workplace, right, but you
guys are already getting thatexperience.
So, like, if you guys like,let's say, you go to when you're

(01:02:37):
going to college, we're gonnalike, you're gonna be like, yeah
, that's cool, I match with thisperson and not 90 people over
there.
Yeah, like I'm fine, right,yeah, I think it's a good life
lesson to learn like

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
younger.
Yeah, I think racing definitelyteaches you like a bunch of
skills that you're not going toget until you do like actually
experience life?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Actually, that's a good question.
Do you have ones like one kindof thing that you're not going
to get until you do?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
like actually experience life and do you have
ones like one kind of thing ortrait that you can like feel
proud of and that you teachother people, that you've
learned from the growing up, theway that you have?

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
I feel like it's just .
I feel like it's just like bekind to everyone yeah, like if
you're going to be mean, likeit's not worth it yeah, it's not
worth it and you're never goingto get something out of it.
And so, just like I feel likeif you're kind, then you have
more relationships and everyone,although you're not going to
get something out of it,although you may not hang out

(01:03:32):
with the person every day.
Like I see kids at school thatI've been close with since
preschool, like a lot of peoplethat I know that I've gone to
all of elementary school, allthe middle school and everything
, and I feel like, as soon asyou start to like create, like
break bridges, I guess, withpeople, it just like makes your

(01:03:55):
life so much harder.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Yeah, and like I don't know if you guys ever
heard this, but like it's hardwhen you tell one lie, because
that one lie turns into like amillion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Like and you just can't keep it going Like it just
like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
What does it say?
Like packs our ads on everytime.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Layers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Layers.

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
Yeah, I feel like it's just be nice to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I definitely agree with like the whole, like
being left out, but also likesacrificing something for like a
goal.
You know, because I do yes, Ido have friends, but sometimes I
do have to be like sorry, Ican't go, sorry, I can't come
over, sorry I have to race, Ihave to work on a car, I have to
post some.
Yeah, you know, and it's gonna,it sucks at first but it's

(01:04:39):
going to be so much more worthit in the long run when you
realize, dang, I'm to my goalbecause I did sacrifice things,
because I care about it thatmuch.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
And the good friends will be there to watch you on
the podium yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Yeah, definitely Like like I feel like the good
friends that are really therefor you stick with you, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
And if they're not the end, then obviously they
weren't your friend?

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Yeah, they're not your friends.
So I've definitely learned likeI don't want to say like who my
real friends are, because it'snot like that, that's like mean,
but like I Feel like I'velearned like who would stick
with me in certain situationsand who would there for me and
everything, and so I Feel likeyeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
No, I agree with that 100%.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Yeah, but you guys can we're saying with George
that, like you miss out onthings because you have to go
work on a car, you have a goalto reach.
You Is.
Other kids that are going toparties and acting like doing
crazy things are just like theyhonestly have no idea what
they're gonna do right in thereif they don't know.
Yeah, and I love like Knowingwhat I right wanted.

(01:05:45):
I've known that I wanted to bein this industry for since I was
in like middle school.
I was like this is what I wantto do, right, and so I feel,
like a lot of kids, includinglike my friends, because a bunch
of people are applying tocollege right now, I feel like
they don't know what major orlike what they want to go into
or what job they want to have,and I feel like I'm so set on

(01:06:06):
what I want to do.
I've like experienced so muchwith racing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, that actually makes me feel good in my heart
that you guys are both thatstrong.
Like it feels really cool toknow that Off-road has given you
guys that in the family, yourfamilies and stuff.
Right, what else you got bell?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I Got highlight of your racing career so far.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
I Feel like well, for me it's her, it's the design of
her freakin trophy card.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
I know, I Feel like my Like my first one would be my
first podium.
In short course, it was thatMiller Motorsports Park I don't
think it's really a thinganymore.
It was in Utah and it was justlike such a big accomplishment
and I just felt like I'd puteverything together, like I had

(01:06:54):
all the puzzle pieces, but Ijust like I put it all together
and figured it out finally, andso I was like I feel like that
was a big milestone.
But then I also feel like I Got.
I kind of got thrown into themint 400 as my first race ever
in desert.
I did no pre-running, because Ican't miss school.
Yeah, um I, although my dad wasmy co-driver and like he knows

(01:07:20):
more about the desert eventhough he's kind of just
starting out in desert too, umit, I feel like the mint 400 was
a big deal because it was sucha long race and I know that,
like when I was in the car, mydad was like you want to switch?
Like are you sure you want todrive the whole thing, and I was
like no, I'm driving the wholething.
Yeah, and so I feel like thatwas a big accomplishment, even

(01:07:40):
to just finish it, because Iknow there's so many people that
just have struggled withfinishing races with certain
cars and other issues that thatfinishing the mint 400 was like
a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Yeah, I don't know if you have checked it out, bella,
but I remember like I was likeI think I was the first person
to you guys when you guys and Iwas like holy shit, they're
smoked, like they were toast cuz.
Jeremy was like dude, I didn'tthink we had to go that many
laps like Rowan just kept goingand he was like we're, so it was
like the roughest course ever.
And then I was like dude, letme go get you guys a gatorade.

(01:08:16):
It's like holy crap, that'scrazy.
I was so hungry.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
All I wanted was food .
Yeah, this the mint took us, Ithink to be exact I don't really
know the exact number I thinkit was like eight hours and 40
minutes and I was like, are yousure you want to drive the whole
thing?
And I was like, yeah, I'mdriving the whole thing, like I
got it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, but you could like finish it.
You could like see like we dida video I think it's on ours on
our social media channel but,like you could see, like Rowan
took off her helmet and she waslike Like so dead.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
And my legs were like I couldn't even feel them.
Yeah, like I don't.
I'm so excited to race longraces like that again, because
that feeling was like, eventhough it was so like exhausting
, and I was just like starvingand I was like, thank god, like
we finished.
Yeah, I was just like I lovedevery bit of it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, it's definitely rough on your body physically
and mentally, but like One right, but getting out and like
passing the finish line andbeing like ding, I just I just
did 400 miles or I just did.
You know like that's, that'sworth all of the pain and all of
the.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Yeah, it's worth every bit of it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Yeah but now Rowan's gonna tape like 50 granola bars
or roof.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Oh, that's what I do I zip, tied them to my frame all
of ours, because my helmet hitsmy cheeks and it hurts my cheek
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Apple sauce and, like you said with sarah, like um
Uncrustables, oh could you dothose goo packets or whatever
they are, like the gels.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
I've never tried those, but I also like I would
pull into the pit.
And my mom was because I don'tdrink, like I don't like soda,
I'm I don't like carbonation, soI had, like I like Sarah said
she drinks like a coke orwhatever I never like I didn't
even think about doing that.
I was just drinking water, yeah, and so I'm almost handing me

(01:10:20):
candy.
She was handing me sour patch.
Yeah, I was anything like Ijust want any food.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You have like the most like out-of-pocket snacks
in a race day.
It's crazy.
I don't know if you go frombarely eating to eating the
biggest dinner after and thenyeah, like nobody's nobody's
eating like grapes at the offroad track, yeah no one.
We eat the most horribleprocessed foods we could find so

(01:10:47):
bad.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
And my dad was like don't drink too much, like be
careful, because like at that,point we kind of Cut off
drinking before you race, right,that you don't have to get out
and go to the bathroom or go tothe bathroom in your sea or
whatever.
Um, and so he was like don'tdrink too much.
Like I want you to be hydrated,but if you drink too much, like
you're gonna have to pee everyfive seconds, right, I was like

(01:11:12):
I won't drink anymore and I justremember eating powdered donuts
as my breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
The way to go powder donuts and crustables.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
It's a crack.
It's crazy.
So out-of-pocket meals it'sinsane.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
And uncrustables is like one of the worst possible
things you could ever eat in theplant.
But they feel so good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Yeah, you see.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I feel like people should make like a, like a racer
meal.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Oh, like how they do the military yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
It's like a company, it's like a meal prep at the
track like a meal prep for thetrack and you take it in the car
and you eat it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
We should that's our idea.
Yeah, I'd yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Hey, so her brother's a good cook.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yes, he could do it for us.
We can market it, it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
And you got your boss lady here marketing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
I know we're we got this we got it all figured out
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Do you got any questions for?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
no, I'm just having fun where the conversation is
going.
I know me too the uh like someof the stuff that I think about
too.
Like when you talk about thegoals and stuff we've been
talking a lot about, you knowhow, like instagram versus
reality, what are some of thelike hardships that you've
experienced, like throughoutyour racing career?
Like that is actual reality,not like, uh, something that you
had to overcome, I guess wouldbe a better way to put it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
I feel like I mean, we just race.
I mean I've said this a coupletimes, but we race for fun, so I
don't race very often, so Ihave reality of not at the track
going on all the time, and I'msure everyone else does.
Um, I feel like it's just beenhard Trying to be able to get to

(01:12:57):
the races.
Yeah because our family has somuch going on.
My dad's always traveling for,like, whatever he's doing, my
mom and sister are always goneand I just feel like it's hard
just being able to get to theraces and like Make sure like we
have the schedules all puttogether and like Everything.

(01:13:18):
Like I know you were talkingabout a vision board.
I, we don't really have avision board.
We probably should.
Um, we all just like talk aboutwhat Our schedule is like, and
so I feel like it's just gettingeveryone's schedule together.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
It's kind of crazy, when you have such a busy life
like time management becomes soimportant, like I hate to say it
, but like my iPhone runs mylife like I can't.
Like.
There was times in this lastmonth where I was like triple,
quadruple booked because Ididn't realize that I had all
that stuff going on.
I was like, oh crap, man, likeand it's like I can only imagine
if you have all of those, allof the people that have the same

(01:13:54):
kind of schedule, it's got tobe very difficult.
But what's cool, though, too,is you learn how to work in a
team in a team environment likethat's rad.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Yeah, I feel like it's definitely.
Racing has taught me a lot,between, like, the big short
course team that my dad used tohave with, like I feel like
there was like 20 mechanics Forhis truck, and then Brock Hager
was also on our team for A truck, and then he raised a yamaha,
and then my sister and I bothhad trophy trucks, and so there

(01:14:22):
was like a lot going on.
So I feel like I was like alsoregulating like your stress
levels and everything around youin order to, as like, be
prepared as best as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Actually, since you were so young when you kind of
saw all that stuff where youjust like man, my parents are
putting in so much effort andthey're managing it like, you,
learn a lot from that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
Yeah, so I was nine when I got my first junior car.
I got a junior two for my ninthbirthday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Oh wait, I just noticed what shirt she has on.
What shirt is that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
So I was nine when I got my truck.
I don't think I raced a race,probably until at least nine and
a half, maybe 10.
Um, I feel like I learned a lotfrom short course.
Short course is not easy.
Yeah, it's not at all.
Everyone's like oh, you havelike 10 laps, like you just have
to finish it With that.

(01:15:20):
It's that young on the track,it's a mess dude, it's like MMA
with four wheels, though.
What'd you say?

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
It's like MMA with four wheels, like it's an
all-out battle.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
I had one specific crash that I fully remember, the
one and only time I flipped ashort course car.
We were going into the firstturn at Glen Helen of the first
lap and I think I don't rememberif it was the first or second
day of racing and I had gonepretty good qualifying.

(01:15:54):
I feel like I was like probablyfifth or seventh and we go
first turn and I get taken out.
I flipped three barrel rolls,one on the ground, one in the
air and then one back on theground to my wheels, luckily,
yeah, and you didn't go like inthat ditch.

(01:16:16):
No, yeah, I was like right onthe inside.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
Dang.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
Like my front wheels, like the inside, like barrier.
Yeah, my front wheels wereinside the track and then my
back wheels were still on thetrack.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Holy crap.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
So I was like the dirt pile that shows where the
track is and I just like Iwasn't hurt at all.
I was like my mom was freakingout yeah, it's always the mom's
the freak out, are you okay, areyou okay?
And I was like my radiounplugged when I flipped and so
I was like trying to find myradio thing as they're trying to

(01:16:52):
get me back on the track and Iwas like I'm fine, like I
promise you I'm fine, and then Ikept going and I feel like I
finished the race ninth of 25, Ithink.
But it was just like.
I feel like racing teaches youhow to keep going, like in a
situation.
Like most kids I feel like theyget hurt in a sports game or

(01:17:14):
something and, despite how badthe like incident is or whatever
, like a lot of kids take alittle break or don't go back in
that game or wait till a couplemore days to play again.
I feel like if you crash inracing, like you're just put
back out there and you got tofinish, yeah, and I feel like
that's almost like the best wayto be because it just teaches

(01:17:36):
you like you just got to keepgoing, no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Like the never give up mentality.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Yeah, See, those are the things that I think really
actually like make a personright Like you're.
Well, your dad knows this, anda lot of motocross guys say this
is you don't win championshipson your best days, you win them
on your worst days.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
And because that's a life lesson in itself, right
Like it makes you the personthat you are 100% and I feel
like my dad's always been therewith like the advice, because
obviously he went through it ina different sport not that
different but a little bitdifferent and he was on such a
strict schedule and likeeverything and crashing and I

(01:18:16):
feel like Moto guys get her allthe time and luckily he got
pretty good at not hurtinghimself.
But I feel like he always hadadvice as to like what to do in
certain situations and Iappreciate it yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Helped a lot.
Yeah, that's where, like thewhole you know racing with your
family comes in.
Is you take from them, youlearn from them, you know and be
being willing to learn fromthem, like I raised with my
brother and, yeah, I can get alittle messy and we argue, but
you know, I'm grateful for it atthe end of the day because he
helps me 100%.

Speaker 5 (01:18:56):
Yeah, I'm sure I can't imagine being in the car
with my sister, obviously likeit would be so much fun, but it
would be a lot at the same time.
And we did race each other inshort course, so she, she was in
the same class as I was and itwas definitely a battle.
Once he got off the track, like, oh, I did better than you.
No, you didn't, and so it waslike it was definitely a family.

(01:19:20):
And if we, if we couldn't makeit like we always were watching
other people that made it to thetrack and everything else, and
I feel like it was always so funlike seeing everyone there,
because I like hopes.
You come and they're like, ohright, like I wish you're here

(01:19:41):
or I'm so glad, like to beracing you.
No one really.
I feel like there's some people, but no one really has bad
blood.
I feel like everyone's justfriends and wants the best for
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
So in most sports there's, like you know, you
always have some teams wherethey don't get along or, you
know, or just people that wishfor your downfall, basically.
But I feel like racing's, Imean it has its spiffs, but it's
definitely a more clean sportthan most because you know
everyone's just kind of therefor each other.

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):
Yeah, I agree, I feel like definitely learning in
like team sports, playinglacrosse and everything that,
like my high school has a rivalschool.
I feel like every high schoolhas that and you like we just
had our rival boys football gameand so I feel like after that
everyone's like pissed at eachother and there's gonna be this

(01:20:34):
and there's that.
But I feel like in racing, likeif something happens, like if
you really need to like talkabout it with each other, but
that's racing, like that's howit goes, and I feel like
everyone kind of understandsthat now.
So it's like it makes it funwith everyone because everyone's
friends, right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
We're more humble than most.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Well, I think it has a lot to do with the level of I
don't know danger in it, becauselike you already know that
there's like all kinds of dangerin it, so you respect the same
level that other people have to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Yeah, because they're willing to get in the car and
give it their all to you.
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:11):
And I feel like it takes so much to prepare for
these races where, like,everyone has respect for each
other and like they want eachother to do well, because
everyone puts in so much timeand money and work and
everything into this, that it'slike you get to the race and you
don't want anyone like notfinishing Right, you don't wish
on a person to break apart, oryeah, yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Hey.
So there's one thing that Iwish.
I will hope that Rowan will askyou next time when she figures
out what college she's going.
Send a message to Bella and belike hey, can I come on the Dirt
Life Show and talk about whatI'm going to?

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
do next.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
Okay, I definitely will.
I'll probably.
I feel like decision decisionday is like somewhere in like
March, maybe Soon it's coming up.
It's really it's really scaryyeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I was going to say like are you nervous right now?

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
I'm terrified.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Yeah, because that's like, that's a lot, like that's
the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yeah, the next thing is life.

Speaker 5 (01:22:15):
Yeah, and it's not that like like the major and
like everything that I want todo in work.
It doesn't matter what collegeI go to, like whatever one, I'm
going to get a good experiencein business, business management
, marketing, sports marketing,everything like that.
So I feel like it's not more.
It's not much about theeducation part of it, it's more
about just like like I'm pickingwhere I am living for the next

(01:22:37):
four years, yeah, and so I feellike it gets stressful and like
I feel like I overthink it forsure, and like you pick
roommates, you are goingsomewhere where you probably
don't know anyone, yeah, like itputs you in a very like
vulnerable and like scarysituation and I know all of them
, I know eventually, and like Iknow I'm going to be really

(01:22:59):
homesick.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Yeah, I feel like it's the anticipation though
that's getting to you, because Ifeel like once you like know
your path, you're going to belike all right, let's go, let's
go.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
I feel like once I pick where I'm going and like
have everything figured out andlike a roommate and everything,
I feel like it'll get moreexciting.
But right now I'm just likeit's really scary.
Yeah, I just took my ACT lastweek, or wait, last Saturday,
not it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, no, no, I'm not an under pressure kind of
person.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
I mean I guess I am, but when it comes to like tests
and stuff, I feel like in like aracing or sports aspect, like
put me under pressure and I'mprobably better than I would be
if I wasn't under pressure.
But in like, say, the ACT, likeit's hard doing so many
questions in a certain amount oftime and it like you see the

(01:23:55):
timer at the front of the roomthat you're taking it in.
You're just like, oh no, yeah,oh gosh, oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
So one of Bella's previous guests, hailey Han,
just commented in and she's alittle bit ahead of what you are
right now, rowan, and she saidagreed that it gets better as
you just dive in.
But I feel like that's like allof you, hailey included like
you're racers, like you justwant to get out there on track
and just like go, go, go.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Right, yeah, and I'm sure, like I feel like there's
enough of racing in the worldthat like I'll find someone at
my college, wherever I end up,that knows something about
racing, and so then I can likerelate with someone on some
level, on certain levels.
But I feel like I'm also anormal kid at the same time.

(01:24:44):
Like I played ball sports justlike everyone else.
I like I go to public schooljust like everyone else, and so
I've grown up with like a prettynormal childhood, not including
, like going to the track allthe time with my family, but if
you take that out of it, like Ihave a very normal childhood.

(01:25:06):
Yeah, I my parents said I had tofinish school.
I was not going home to school.
I've begged, begged and begged.
I wanted to go home to schoolso bad, because I was like I
just want to be at the track, Ijust want to like hang out with
all my friends from the trackand everything.
I begged to do that.
But I feel like going throughpublic school has like, while

(01:25:27):
being a racer, has taught me somany lessons and so many things
that I can use in my future.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Yeah, I love that.
That's like so cool to see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, I think it's definitely.
You got a bright, bright futureahead of you, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
But that, that bright future, is what I want to know
about.
So I know, yeah, you guysdefinitely got to keep in touch.
You guys will probably go toStarbucks like before you guys
move, but like definitely let usknow, because I would really
like to see where you're goingto go to college and kind of get
a lay of the land because I'msure it'll be posted on my
Instagram or something I'llfigure out.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
Yeah, It'll take a minute, but I'll I'll find my
decision.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah, 100%.
Wherever you go is wherever youwere meant to be, so.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Yeah, I agree on that .
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
What else you got?

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I think that was it.
I wanted to know what is yourupcoming race Like?
What do you got next?
That's going on, so.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Winter months are pretty busy for us.
Okay, so I'm going to end up,hopefully, racing the mint again
, and then what's next?
I think I'm trying to race KOH.
Okay, and I'm excited aboutthat because that's a new one
and I've I've seen, like I'vebeen out there while my dad

(01:26:50):
races and the desert out thereis so fun.
I don't know which race at KOHI would do.
I have to still figure out thedetails and everything.
I think my dad's going to racethe big race, like the rock one,
I don't even.
I don't know what it's like,the main one, right, but I don't
know which one I'm racing yet.
But I'm really excited for thatbecause I could be in a new

(01:27:13):
place, right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Dude, so gnarly, yeah , no, that's definitely my
highlight of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Second semester of senior year.
Yeah, it's okay Right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
You got it all planned out already.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's all the questionsI got.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Yeah, I think you're doing a great job at your whole
life, rowan, so keep it up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Thank you Definitely.
To wrap it up, is there anyonethat you would like to thank for
you know, your sponsors, anyonethat just supports you in
general?

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Yeah, I would like to thank my mom and my dad and my
sister, of course, like they'realways there to support me.
Um my dad's like buddies thathelp us out at the track, scott
Bell, carl, everyone else.
Um Maxis Kawasaki for the cars,baha Designs, armorsport, blue

(01:28:06):
Media, ngenice, rugged Radiosand yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Dude.
Yeah, she's got a lot of coolpeople.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
All right, good luck, rowan.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Yeah, thanks so much.
Thank you Thank you Bye, bye.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
It was so cool.
This was a really good show,though I know One of the things
that I liked the most about thiswas that, uh, I guess it kind
of all had I don't know what youwant to call it one main theme,
yeah, and that was people thatare focused, that are
goal-oriented, yeah, and all ofthem are thriving because of a

(01:28:41):
lot of the stuff that they'velearned in racing, and in
off-road racing specifically,like they've all done a lot of
different little things, right,yeah, but they're all kind of I
don't know on the same path asthe way that you and I think.
Right, they're focused on beingbetter human beings and then
being better at the things thatthey want to be at.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Right, they all have like a good mindset and, you
know, willing to learn andwilling to grow, and I think
that's really important.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Yeah, they're not closed-minded.
That's a good point to bring up.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
All right, so, um, let's thank the sponsors again,
and then we'll get the heck outof here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Well, motool, obviously, um KMC for their
amazing products and EVO PowerSports for giving us power.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Yeah, evo Power Sports has a lot of power too.
Yes, they've been doing somecool stuff too.
Yeah, um, so they do have tunesfor your, um, what they call it
the Maverick R, they got somefor your Pro-R, they got exhaust
, all kinds of different stuff.
So, thanks to Todd and all theguys over there, yeah, um,
really appreciate the supportfrom, like Rowan said, maxis
Tires.
Those guys are going to bedoing some cool stuff with us

(01:29:43):
for next year and they alwayssponsor all the Dirt Life Cribs
episodes.
So thank you to Maxis guys fordoing that.
And then, uh, the Shock Therapyum, those guys were at the
Dunes this weekend, man, theywere knocking out so many
different cars and having a goodtime out there too.
So thank you to all the guys atShock Therapy.
Jl Audio uh, just cranking thetunes sold, erasing products and
vision canopies.

(01:30:04):
We really appreciate everybody,um, but Bella, most importantly
, we appreciate everybody thatwatches your show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
Yes, thank you to everybody that came on here and
shared it and commented in.
We really appreciate you guys.
We did this for you guys to see.

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
We're going to do the shows with uh Bella's Corner
every the first Wednesday ofevery month, but it might be the
second one days, depending onhow crazy the schedules get.
Yeah, so keep paying attention.
Yes, bella has lots of goodguests coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
Yeah, so episode four of Bella's Corner coming soon.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Yep Coming soon.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
Thanks guys, bye.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show.
See you next week.
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