Great Efforts lead to Great Rewards: Ethan Ebert's Journey in Off-Road Racing - Bella's Corner - The Dirt Life

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to the Dirt Life Show.
I am your host, Bella Burchard,and this is my co-host, George
Hamill.
Hi Today we are filming episode10 of Bella's Corner.
I can't believe we're alreadyat 10, double digits, that's
crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Are you pretty hyped on the number 10?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm pretty hyped, especially hyped for this one,
because we got a really specialguest today.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Ethan is a super cool dude.
I know you're going to do aproper intro and stuff, but a
lot of people have probablyalready seen Ethan around the
races some of the desert races,some of the short course races.
He's just a solid kid right,and you know more than anybody
else how wild it can get whenyou're in your teens.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, for sure, especially in an industry like
this where you're constantlysaying hi and meeting new people
and stuff.
So props to him.
I'm super excited to learn moreabout him.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah for sure.
So we're going to skip thefirst one, go over to Max's
Tires.
Thank you for sure.
So, um, we're going to skip thefirst one, go over to max's
tires.
Thank you very much for all thestuff that chris and uh brad
and everybody does over there.
Uh, max's has been really,really supporting a lot of
racing.
I think we talked about it lasttime a little bit about how
much they supported crandon.
Yes, uh, and all of the stuffthere, and we also share a

(02:00):
mutual sponsor with ethan.
Uh, maxis is a part of theHonda Off-Road Racing Program.
Yes, so that's super cool.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's super cool.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Thanks to the guys over at Shock Therapy.
Really appreciate all of theirhard work, the guys over at JL
Audio Vision, Canopy and.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Evolution Power Sports Coach.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
What?
Oh, they have a code shooterapp that you can program.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, but Evolution Power Sports for all the power.
Those guys are super cool overthere, so thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yep and then Zolinger Racing Products.
So thank you, travis, and allthe guys over there too, so all
right.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Anything else you want to say?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, and Starstream too, here, there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Branding right there on point.
Okay, let's get Ethan on rightnow, and then you can do your
introduction real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
He was ready.
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Ethan's solid dude.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
All right, and thank you guys very much for joining
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Ethan Ebert.
What's up, dude?
What's going on?
Man Hi Dude, check out the signin the back Bella's Corner.
I know that thing is sick.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I was just working at it.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It reminds me something of like what your
sister or your mom would do Liketo get you all dialed in oh for
sure, no, my mom was probablygoing to start making those next
.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, it's nice to officially meet you.
I'm super excited that you'reon the show tonight.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Heck, yeah, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, for sure.
So I got a pretty good intro,but we could start off with that
.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Okay, ethan Ebert is 18 years old, from Tucson,
arizona, with 10 years of racingunder his belt, experience in
some of the largest off-roadevents, like the Baja 1000.
Ethan is now captain of numberseven Honda Ridgeline trophy
truck.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Man there you go Wait , are you running number seven?
No, number nine, right, numbernine?
Yeah, number nine, dude.
It's pretty crazy to think,like I've known ethan for a
little while now and like he'salways had his own number and
you know, like you start withthree digits, or even on dirt
bikes, and then you have twodigits and now he's a single
digit driver, like to me.

(04:17):
When you get in those singledigits, like that's like
graduate into, like the ranks,dude like yeah, that's like,
yeah, that's big dog stuff rightthere.
Well, who else is number nine?
Adam Cincerello, he justretired that number.
Dude, you are up with the bigdogs.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Trying to be.
I'm definitely trying to be.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
That's super cool.
That'd be kind of cool sharinga number with someone like that.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I know I need to start thinking who shares my
number with me?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
What's your number again?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Four.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ricky Carmichael.
Now it's Chase Sexton.
Oh okay, who's number four atNASCAR?
I don't know who that is, butthere's probably, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm going to find out .
I think there is a number fourfor sure.
Yeah, for sure, Definitelynumber nine too.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
All right, let's hear the intro.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
What do you mean?
I said the intro.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
All right, are we ready to dive in some questions?

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Let's do it, of course.
Ask away.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
The whole title of this episode was Deep Diving.
I know we like to scratch onthe surface a little bit and
everybody wants to hear all thebasic racing questions and stuff
like that.
But I definitely wanted to aska little more personal things
too, like school and familystuff Do you think we should get
the audience involved too, likeallow them to ask questions?

(05:31):
Yeah, for sure.
If you guys have any questions,please comment them and we will
get all of them to you.
But I've had a couple peoplecome to me with a bunch of
questions.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, we got a bunch of questions that got submitted.
Hey, but don't be a D like whenyou ask the questions, make
sure you're nice and uh, I'mtalking about all the, all the
comments that will come in,because we don't want to get.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
We don't want to give people free reign, dude.
Oh, once we give free reign,it's, it's no good from there?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
yeah, that's normally where it snowballs down that's
exactly what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
say too, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So I know mornings look different for every racer
out there, but kind of give me arundown of what your guys'
morning looks like before youactually get into the car and
start your race.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So yeah.
So I've actually had to work onmy mornings a lot because, like
when I would wake up to go toschool, I wouldn't eat anything.
So it was like I've had totrain my brain, like, okay,
you've got to eat protein, yougot to do this, you got to drink
electrolytes, all that, yeah,so it's like it's super
important to get all thatnutrients in you, cause, I mean,
we're going to be driving for500 or plus miles, you know.

(06:36):
So it's nothing like it'ssomething small to do, you know,
it's you're pushing it thewhole time and all that.
So super, super important tokind of just and limber up too,
that's for sure, just becauseyou're going to be sitting in
the same spot for however long,you know.
So, yeah, so you just got tolike limber up and just get
loose and stay away from a lotof the stress, like that's what
I love with the guys is theyhandle pretty much everything.

(06:58):
So I just got to sit there andgo, oh, okay, cool, like when do
I jump in?
You know, so I can't thankthose boys enough for what they
do.
So, yeah, just throw on someheadphones, listen to some music
and just kind of relax, causeit's like you're going to have a
lot of chaos going on.
So, yeah, you just got to getready for it.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
One of the things that I like most about what
Ethan was saying is like uh, I'ma big proponent of uh, what is
want to?
Like sound like a tree hugger,but like feeling your zen right,
like centering yourself andlike stretching is huge, like
people discount, like don'tsleep on stretching and then you

(07:35):
can like settle down and thenlike I don't know if you have
like a favorite genre of musicor if you like get like super
amped up or you try to calm downbefore you get in there, but
like what's that look like whenyou're trying to mellow out, get
before the race?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
dude, honestly I'm just gonna be honest the music I
listen to is like you're goingto war.
You know what I mean.
Like back in the day, like theboys are in the blackhawk
helicopter, you're flying intovietnam.
You know like that's the stuffthat you put on.
It's like man, like fortunateson dude, like the Bushes or
whatever.
I forget what that song is.
But, dude, you just got to walkin because you're going to war.

(08:08):
I mean, you got all these otherpeople just sitting out there
with millions of dollars intrucks and they don't want to
hurt them, but then they alsodon't care because they can pay
for it all.
So it's like dude.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
CPD said.
I can just hear him likewelcome to the jungle, like,
just like getting nasty.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Oh yeah, no, gatlin tells me to shut up.
All the time, all the time.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
People have always told me to calm down before
races, but now I think I oughtto try that tactic.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'll send you the playlist.
Let's do it.
Let's do two questions.
What would be your go-to songif you're going to be getting
ready for the race?
Belle, and then we'll haveEthan.
Pick just one.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's definitely got to be a rap song.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh really Are you thug life yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Got to thug it out before the race.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Really.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, do you have a favorite thug song right now?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I like Too Short right now.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
No way, that is pretty gnarly dude.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I did not expect that .
Oh my God, Like the song thatjust popped into my head.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I hate to get like on PG-13, but it was like
Gangsters and Strippers, likethat's the song that just popped
into my head right now.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Dude, you're wild.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Oh wait, okay, All right, what are you going with
Ethan Dude?
I'm going with, probablyFortunate Son.
Okay, that is where it's at,because it's just like the beat
and everything.
It's like dude.
We're going to Vietnam.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, UGB Night Ride said try some Valley of the
Wolves.
That's my go-to.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Oh, yeah, okay I can get behind that.
Night Rides.
Night Rides.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Is that what he said?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, okay that fits the vibe.
No, fortunate Son's a good one.
I gotta try that out too.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
You got it.
Gets you locked in.
Gets you locked in for surethat's funny, that's super cool.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, I have a lot of funny questions, but should we
ask some more serious ones, or?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I think we should switch back and forth.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let's do a serious one right now okay, who was one
person you would want to battleside by side?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh, this was a fan-submitted question.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yes, Menzies every single day of the week, because
like dude, he's like top dog,like that's like growing up when
I was a kid, like all you seerumbling by through the short
course, through the infield,just that mean red bull machine
just chopping through and likehe's the top, like anybody.
You ask like, oh, bryce menzies, bryce menzies.

(10:29):
So like if I could, if I couldjust door menzies once, I think
I'd be happy.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You know, yeah, like go next to him just door, door
menzies, and hang up the towel,drop the mic oh, yeah, that's it
.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah.
And then ask if I can keep hisdoor, then you, then, that's it.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Then you hang that up in the garage, hey you know
somebody else, that's a bigMenzies fan, don't you?

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, I do my brother, my little brother, absolutely
biggest Bryce Menzies fan ever.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
See.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And then, when he followed me first, he was really
upset about it.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, he is a people's person.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh yeah, he's got the socks, the shirts the speakers
all over the car, everything.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Fort Garvin said tell us about your motor.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I wonder which one he's talking about.
Tell us about the one in the250F.
Oh, do you have a 250F or a 450?
Now I have a 450.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, I upgraded, dude.
I'm a big dog now.
Do you got a?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
motor built in that thing, or no?
No, it's just so.
It's the special edition 450R.
So it's the RWE the worksedition.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Dude, those have special motors, though they got
special porting.
They got special heads, thewhole deal.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, and it came with the full Yosh, so I was
stoked.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Yeah, those things.
Is that a little too much foryou, or are you getting used to
it?

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Oh no, we're messing around and I sometimes touch map
three, which is the gnarliest,but most of the time it's in map
one Is map three super gnarly.
Dude, they call it extreme.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Extreme from the battery, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think your dad and I will probably stay on the
lower maps.
Dude, we don't need none ofthat extreme.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Dude, that dude will not swing his leg over a bike.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
He's had some incidents on the 110s and he's
done.
Uh, oh, okay, andy wants andy.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know andy oh yeah , he wants to know some specs on
the tt yeah oh, what are wethinking?
Like shocks and stuff, or Ithink he's making more like just
details like how about this?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
how about you tell us what your favorite seat in the
tt is and what kind of steeringwheel you use?

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Okay, so we run the Sparco.
I forget which ones they are,but I know they're the large
seats and so it cups meperfectly.
And then the steering wheel isa flatter steering wheel and I
think it might be 350 millimeterbut it's not like super wide,
so it's like you're driving abus, but it's like just perfect

(12:50):
and I love that steering wheel.
And you probably use a upr seatpad from our buddy jeff ferrer
too yep, yep, I do that.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Three inch seat pad helps a lot, dude.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
It helps your back like you wouldn't believe how
long did it take for you to kindof get dialed in your seat and
know exactly what you liked soit actually it was kind of weird
.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
So when I was driving the seven truck that truck was,
the seat was I think it was anextra large or something and I
didn't fit in it.
So I was thrashing around allthe time and so we actually had
to make this custom seat pad.
Here I can bring it out.
This is a proctor made customseat pad.
Okay, yeah, full duct tape.
It's got sponsor, it'ssponsored too.

(13:23):
So this was had to be madebecause I would get thrashed
around in the car so much.
But it really like.
So I like my, I like everythingsuper tight, so I I don't
really, because a lot of theguys like to run this uh, top
belts like really loose and sothey kind of float with the
truck, but I like to be one withthe truck, so I'm, I'm bouncing
with it and I feel everything.

(13:44):
So everything's super tight andlike yeah, and also also makes
fun of me for tightening mybelts all the time.
Yeah, but um, yeah, no, thesparco, the seat belts that we
use, it's like that six pointharness, so it has the little
circle right here and then allyou do is flip it and you can
get out and it's, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I have no complaints with it dude, those, those uh,
custom seat pads are so crucial.
They're like, uh, when, uh,when I was racing short course,
I still have it like I have afull seat pad around the whole.
I use the smallest seat I couldpossibly get and then I would
use the custom seat pad.
It was like, and it would pissso many people off, especially
my crew chief, because he wouldhave to sit on top of the seat
and be like driving it around,like with his neck all bent

(14:23):
against the roof, even thoseupheated seatbelts too.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like going from, like those latch seatbelts, to the
what you were just talking about, the clips and everything comes
apart Like that was an insanejump to me.
I remember getting those atfirst and being like what is
this?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, like it was super sick.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
But when you get everything, dialed, though it
feels so much better yeah forsure, being comfortable in your
car really matters.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, but I also can move the seat forward and back,
so my seat will be all the wayback and I tighten it as far as
I can and then I move the seatforward and it tightens up even
more.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, that's super nice Convenient too
, Bougie, Speaking of that, whatdifferences did you see as you
matured in the industry?
Like differences between thenew stuff that was coming out,
but also just like how racersprogressively got better stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Oh, that's a good question.
So honestly, like back when Iwas racing the short course
stuff, it was like everybody wassuper rowdy.
I feel like it was always likeparty at this pit, party at this
pit.
The technology was stilladvancing, but it wasn't
advancing as much as it is now.
I feel like a lot of it now ismore people like Mason with the

(15:39):
all-wheel drive trucks andeverybody else coming out with
all-wheel drives and everythingelse is like people are focusing
more and more and more onracing and more stuff's coming
out like fluid logic's doingthis or ball design just making
an actuator to do that.
You know, so it's definitelymatured a lot more, I think,
just because a lot of the guysare showing more respect to it.
You know, it's not like, ohyeah, we're just racing to have

(16:00):
fun.
No, we're racing to dosomething and make technology
and make new things.
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Well, don't you think it has?
Like we all take direction fromother racing series, right,
like F1 or NASCAR or whatever itis, and when you see those
series, it's a lot differentthan dirt bike racing and then
off-road racing, because there'smore gaps in off-road and dirt
bikes, right, like it's secondsnot milliseconds, right and.
But now it's getting so close,like what you said before, like

(16:27):
menzies and uh, you know, like,actually, let me lay a backstory
, but it's the devil's in thedetails is what I'm saying for
you.
You've done very well in theadaptation for the new honda
truck.
Right, you guys are now racingin the trophy truck class.
You had a lot of pressure onyourself this entire year
because you got thrown into themix like you're racing in the
trophy truck class.
You had a lot of pressure onyourself this entire year
because you got thrown into themix like you're racing with the

(16:48):
big dogs and there's no, it'snot a secret, you have a lot
less horsepower because you'reracing a v6, right, you're
racing against 1100 horsepowermason, any of these big dogs,
right?
That doesn't discount anybodyelse or your driving style.
It just means that you'replaying with the big dogs.
So every single one percentmakes that much of a difference
for you right, like exactly whatdoes it take for you to go and

(17:11):
podium right, like you gotpodiums this year?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
yeah, yeah, so it, um it, like you said, I mean it
comes down to the milliseconds,like it's just super.
So what I found in this truckis like, sure, we don't have all
that bottom end torque, but wehave the top end, so it's, it's,
the truck is there, you know.
I mean we have some good topspeed and as long as you're
pretty much in the rpm, thetruck loves it.

(17:36):
I mean it's.
You can relate it to a civic inall reality, like when vtech
hits, you're on it, so, butinstead VTEC is on all the time,
so this truck is just lit upall the time.
But I found out that a lot ofthe guys like to push it at the
very, very start for some reason, just because they're so hyped
up, like ready to go, ready togo, let's go racing, and then

(17:56):
they wad the truck or somethingbreaks, they lose the drive
shaft and then they're out 15,20 minutes.
And they're out 15, 20 minutes.
Like that's how we got a podium, is just people falling out.
Like that's how we got third atthe mint, is just people
falling out, dropping out.
And like the attrition rate issuper crucial and with Evan
Miller prepping that truck, andhow reliable the Honda is.
I mean we just pick trucks offleft and right, just pick off

(18:17):
the injured trucks, you knowyeah.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Hey, so we, uh, we know a little bit of a story
about Evan Weller.
Do you want to?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I heard that he may or may not have been working on
the driveline and you tried tomake sure there was no dust
around him.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Vegas Torino the first race in the truck.
Okay, I didn't know we weregoing here, but I guess we're
here now.
So basically, Evan Weller and Iare very close, okay, so super
close.
And Evan's a solid dude, by theway, dude, he's so badass, I
love him.
But yeah, so we come in, thisis a brand-new truck off the

(18:58):
line from Tisco.
And so we were like, okay,there's going to be issues
because it's a brand new truckand the CR is going to fight
gremlins.
So we were going through, wewere just dancing through Vegas
Trino doing pretty good, andthen we had some brake issues
and I was like, okay, this kindof sucks.
You know you can't slow down a6,000-pound truck.
It's a little sketchy, let'sfigure this out.
And we were I pull into thepits and I have a 64 ounce

(19:23):
bottle from fluid logic that Idrink all the time, so let's
keep that in mind 64 ounce a lot, of, a lot of liquid.
Yeah, a lot of liquid, a lot,and so I'm just sipping on this
dude.
And then we pull into the pitand I'm like, okay, like we're
doing good, like we're, we'remaybe like, I think, top 10 or

(19:43):
top 5 even I'm like, oh, we'redoing pretty good.
And so I'm just lax, I'm zen,and 2 plus 2 equals 4.
And I just let loose and I waslike man, like I got to go to
the bathroom right now.
Good thing we have thistechnology that I can go right

(20:07):
now.
Good thing we have thistechnology that I can go.
But evan weller was fixing thebrake line that was underneath
my seat.
So bad dude.
And so I just let it rip.
I was like, because I didn't, Izoned everything out and, uh,
evan was like this is thefunniest part part.
Evan was like, oh, it doesn'ttaste like brake fluid.
And I was like I was in toodeep.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
so I was like don't say nothing, just let it go was
he pretty mad at you after no,he was, he was, like that
happens, and I'm like took itlike a champ.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I've heard way worse.
He was like that happens andI'm like took it like a champ.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I've heard way worse stories, but I can totally see
what Ethan's saying here, though, because don't bother a man
while he's letting it go.
You can't, it's not going tostop the flow.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
And Proctor was on the radio the whole time and I
zoned him out.
I was like dude, I don't hearwhat he's talking about.
He was like are you peeingright now?
And I'm like, no, I'm not goingto answer that question, that's
hilarious.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was good.
I wish we could have.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Evan on the phone right now.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Dude, she's probably written me a new one.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's so funny.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Oh my god, yeah, yeah , that was vegas trino.
That's like I honestly, I thinkthat's I one of my first times
meeting evan too really, vegastrino is a hot one.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
You, you must have been cooling him down.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, exactly, hey, it's vegas, it was hot and, yes,
you're so right how many timeshave you raced Vegas Trino?
Two times.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah twice.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Did you like it?
You fan.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's pretty fast, dude.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
So I love the track.
The track is awesome.
It's just all ass the wholetime.
But it's like this year kind ofsucked because we had some some
issues, so it kind of suckedthere.
And then it was like I was indust all day, from the start to
the finish.
I was in dust like I did 100miles with my visor cracked up
and milwaukee safety glasses onoh that's rough and that blew at

(22:22):
night, so that sucks, but it'sa fun track.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
It's a fun race, but yeah, yeah, yeah, especially
when you're battling issues allday it feels like the day's
never gonna end actually that'sa good point to bring up, like,
let's talk about a seriousracing.
It like because being theunderdog, so to speak, with less
horsepower, qualifying is soimportant for races like vegas
torino.

(22:46):
Because, like, if you don'tqualify good, you're fucked,
you're sitting in the dust allday right but, how do you manage
something like that?
because you know, like, allright, these all-wheel drive
masons or whatever it is aregoing to go, or, like our siero,
he's just going to give it thebeans, the entire qualifying run
.
So, like, how do you go upagainst something like that?
Because, well, first of all,our Sierra has got a lot of

(23:07):
experience on you, he's got alot of horsepower on you, he's
got, you know, I mean, theexperience itself is enough
right there, like how do you sitat the starting line and go,
all right, fuck, what am I goingto do to qualify as good as
possible?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
So basically I'm just nervous the whole time.
And then Gallen's in my earlike dude, we're just not going
to lift.
I'm like I can do that.
So basically we just don't lift.
Like you can listen to, youtubewas video of us qualifying in
Vegas arena and it's on the chipthe whole time.
That's all you do.
So it's like so Gallen actuallyreally helps me a lot.
He gets me out of head.
He's like all right, we gotthis, I got this map.

(23:41):
Like he just reassures me andlike I couldn't ask for a better
co-driver.
Dude like yallin is such anall-around, just badass of a
co-driver, so he just helps meget through.
Like all right, dude, like yougot this.
Like we used to qualify all thetime in short course, every
single time.
So I'm used to the okay, yougotta put a heater down, leave
it all on the track, or elseyou're not really ending up in a
good spot.
So it's get to the finish lineor you get to get to that flag

(24:05):
before anybody else.
Really that kind of mentality.
So it's just it's almost likedriving a pro four.
You know, just on the limit,just just everywhere, and if
you're qualifying, likequalifying in craining, so
you're just on the limit thewhole time, like it's just as
much as you can, really.
But you also have to keep inthe back of your mind like, hey,
I'm racing this truck, like therace is in like tomorrow or the

(24:28):
next day, like if we like dosomething catastrophic, we're
done.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah and so you can't weed.
You can't weed it, but that'sthe qualifying is like I keep
telling people, qualifying isalmost more important than the
race day.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Now dude yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh, just because clean air is that important
absolutely, and then so, likeyou were just talking about your
co-driver, you've had somefantastic co-drivers Gatlin is
the latest one and he does areally, really good job but you
have like, honestly, you have anamazing team and family around
you.
Let's talk about the supportmechanisms, because I know Bell
has some questions about thattoo.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, so I started off actually with Joee whining
as a co-driver and that dude isa legend in itself like we would
try to go through the tech linewith joe and oh hey joe, oh hey
joe, hey joe, he's a celebritydown there like he's just, he's
the coolest stand-up guy you'llever meet and he's so like let's
get to business.
Like I know what to do.
He speaks foreign spanish, heknows Mexico like the back of
his hand, like he's.
And he knows how to fixliterally anything with any

(25:29):
situation.
Like he could fix like a tierod with a creosote bush or
something you know.
Like it's just, he's such ahandy guy.
And he was really the firstperson to show me like hey, like
we get it, you know.
Like you're fast, but you'reonly fast for this amount of
time until you break.
So you can either be fast untilyou break or be fast the whole
time and not break, and then youcan win.

(25:49):
So he really showed me theropes on hey, dude, you're being
an idiot.
Like you're not in short course.
Like we have 800 miles, let'sget 800 miles done and then
we'll see where we're at.
So he was super level-headedand it was awesome.
So I I can't thank him enough.
And like the crew is just, they, they know what to do.
You know, it's like it's nottheir first rodeo.
They're like oh, we'll do this,this and this, and then, yeah, I

(26:10):
can't ask for a better familycrew, co-drivers, anybody, yeah
was it hard to learn that liketo learn it was so difficult,
like super difficult, justbecause it's like you're like,
honestly, I want to give propsto, to Trey Gibbs, because he
goes back to the Midwest andhe'll race short course and come
straight back and then get backin the 6100 and go race.

(26:31):
So what did he say?
He said it's not easy.
Do know, it absolutely is not.
It sounds easy, like, oh yeah,just slow down, but that's not.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like when you're racing and you're flying through
gears, it's that goes out thewindow and it just goes straight
to what you know you have tochange your whole mentality,
yeah, well, even when I talkedto him before I talked to him
before the baja 400, when you'reseeing all you guys line up at
the starting line and you knowhe was watching everybody and I
said, man, like qualifying waspretty good, he goes.

(27:00):
Honestly, dude, I forgot how todrive a trophy truck, like like
mid-level, like he's like Ijust went short course and like
went ham on it and he's likehe's like but I can't do that
like, I can't use like you're,you're gonna lose if you have
that attitude so he already knewyeah, no, and it's like you
have to flip your braincompletely like to a different

(27:20):
level, like you gotta like Ilike saying it as you have to
slow your brain down.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
You don't have to speed it up, you have to slow it
down.
So you process everything, butyou have to process it at a
hundred miles an hour, whippingthrough creosote, bushes and
fans on the side and whoops.
So it's like to a point youslow down but then do another.
It's like you got to.
So it's a weird deal and it'sjust feel.
You know all feel is that hardto oh sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Is that hard to do, though, like with your, because
you're a uh well, a hyper dude?
Right, like you got a lot ofenergy.
Is it hard for you to slow yourbrain down?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
because for me it's super hard yeah, no, and it's
every time I catch dust.
It's like I want to step outand just go rip and gallons like
, no, like, we'll have a chance,we'll have a chance, we'll have
a chance.
Then get them.
You know, so it's just like.
But every time like so that'sactually how I crashed in my
first desert race is I caughtdust and I was like, oh, let's
go get them.
And then I blew a corner andsmashed into a rock wash, or

(28:16):
into a rock in a giant wash, andripped the whole left side of
the car off and it was like,okay, we're done, yeah, so, yeah
, no, like I have I've had tolearn like, okay, we're in dust,
but now we have to drive evensmarter.
So we can't drive harder, wehave to drive smarter because we
already caught this guy doingwhat we're doing, so we're gonna
catch, we're gonna pass him, nomatter what.
So you just kind of have tothink okay, if we caught up to

(28:38):
him doing 75 pace, we can easilypass him with an 80% pace.
And there you go, yeah, it'sscience.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Did it take you a while to learn, like, how to
read terrain, Like?
Oh, I don't know, if it canhandle this or it can handle it.
I got it.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, no, it definitely took me a while, just
because it's like, oh, thislooks like it's going to like
kick the truck, and so I makesome weird adjustments and then
the truck just like eats it up.
So, yeah, it's been super weird, and especially now with the
live out too.
It's like if I see something,gatlin will see it too, and
that's the weird thing is like,when gatlin and I plug our
radios in, it's not just theradio, it's our brains too, so

(29:14):
he can see what I see.
And he's like, oh, this isgonna happen, and he changes the
shocks and then it'll hit itand I'm like, okay, that's what
I wanted to do anyway.
So it's super cool.
But yeah, it takes a long timeto say okay, like it just takes
seat time and that's it.
I mean as much seat time as youcan get.
Then there you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
We've seen you, like during some practice sessions,
like it's not all about justsmashing through whoops, or it's
not all about, like, justcutting corners.
Like you, you have a reallygood like um, I don't know knack
for it.
Maybe it comes from the dirtbike stuff that you do, or the
quad stuff that you did early onin your in your life, um, or
even short course stuff, but youknow how to position things.
Like, you know, like within Iwould say, at least three or

(29:53):
four inches where to put thefront end before you enter a
corner.
Like you'll, you'll, you'lldrop the front end, you'll lift
it, you'll, you'll hit the gasand you use your feet a lot more
than you do the steering wheelto get the execution that you
want through certain sections.
Like, was that hard to learn?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Honestly, yeah, and it was.
I can't even describe it.
So it's honestly just a feelthing.
It's like something that I'vealways been able to do of where,
okay, I know what the car isgoing to do and that's so.
Actually, I need to thank my dadbecause he was so adamant about
learning judgment of anyvehicle that you get in.
He said this is going to be thebest thing that you know, no

(30:33):
matter what you do.
And it was judgment.
And I was like like no way,like it's whatever, like I don't
think it.
And then I started payingattention, like, okay, if I put
my front wheel here and it grabsinto this rut a certain way,
then it's going to throw thetruck this way, and it's like
he's totally right.
If you know where your frontbumper is and your rear bumper
is, then you're good to go andobviously, where the sides are.

(30:54):
But it's like it was just the.
The best thing for me to learnwas judgment.
I feel like that's how it kindof helps and just kind of the
feeling you know yeah, it takesa lot for somebody to like.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
let that insert itself into their head, though,
cause most of the especiallyyoung youngsters like teenagers,
right, cause that's the phasein your life and any teenagers
like this doesn't matter if youplay basketball, football,
whatever.
You don't want to hear whatyour parents have to say, right,
like.
So having an open mindset andopen perception, like you did,
that's what will take you reallyfar, because you're like okay,

(31:25):
well, maybe my dad is right,maybe I should look into this,
because maybe it will help me.
Like.
That's the winning attitudethat most kids don't get.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, no, and I'm just super thankful for my dad
because that's how he is.
You know, he's just a.
He's this kick-ass salesmanthat says okay, we're not, I'm
not here to sell you anything,I'm here to fix your problem.
Done, there we go so it's likeokay there you like?
All right, cool like I'll.
I'll listen to you like afterthat.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I do have questions about that, especially because
you're so family orientated.
Um what roles does your familytake on during race weekends?

Speaker 3 (31:59):
um, actually.
So they all kind of we've madeour own kind of deal.
So it's been funny.
My dad has been through so manydifferent roles.
So when we first started he wasteam owner uh, mechanic and
everything else.
And then we went to the juniortwo same thing mod cart he
stepped down from mechanic andhe was just like the team owner
slash mud scraper and then wegot to the talon and he really

(32:21):
didn't do anything, he was justteam team owner.
And that really annoyed him,like he's a super hands-on guy,
like he'll watch, likeoccasionally, but he's like dude
, like I know I can do it better, so he'll get in there.
And so when we got to the truckhe was like, all right, I'm
done sitting on the sidelineswatching like nothing happen.
So now he changes my driver'sside rear, side rear, so he's on

(32:45):
the, he's out there in thefield with the impact boom, boom
gets it done.
And it's super cool to see justbecause he's he's been doing
such different things I don'tknow, dude, that's a risky move
putting dad in that position Iknow if I pissed him off,
because now I work for him too.
So if I pissed him off at work,he's like oh, I don't know what
happened.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh, I wasn't I wasn't saying it about that.
Like you'll know what I'mtalking about.
He crashes a lot.
He broke his arm.
He would be falling down allover the place, dude.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I don't know, he just gets it done.
Someone needs to wrap him inbubble wrap.
I know, but yeah, so my daddoes that now, so he changes the
tires.
My mom is like the snack girl.
So if you have a snack oranything.
Boom.
Kelly's on.
Kelly is on.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
You'd get along with her real good though, oh I would
.
I'll eat the snacks.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
There you go and then my sister does like she's
leaning more now towardsphotography stuff.
I'm not going to lie, Okay.
So, bring this disposablecamera bam.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
But she's also in the beverage department too.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
And then she also will do split times too.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
And she's also in the beverage department.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Oh yeah, yes, she does.
She hands out free Red Bulls,so she works for them, alright
locked in Sugar free too.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
She's super awesome.
She can get her hands on sugarfree.
If you need some of those.
I will for sure she can get herhands on sugar-free if you need
some of those.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I will, for sure she can get any.
That's really really cool,ethan, if you could get, if you
were sponsored by or well,obviously you are speaking of
honda, because I just saw themjoin, hi guys, um, being
sponsored by a big brand companylike honda, do you have any
other obligations?
Like, besides racing?
It's like signings and photoshoots, stuff like that yeah, so

(34:26):
it's actually really cool.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So I've been invited to the off-road expo and the
sand expo or the sand show andjust stuff like that, and I mean
just like this.
Um, this past week I wasactually out in Texas and I was
filming with uh, yuki Sonoda,the Formula One driver, okay,
and we did like this big wholelike cross-brand deal filming
with Yuki Tsunoda, the FormulaOne driver, and we did this big
whole cross-brand deal whereYuki drove the truck and I kind
of taught him and then I drovethe truck and made him woo-hoo

(34:50):
and all that stuff.
So it was super rad.
But yeah, no, there's lots ofstuff that go behind it, which I
think is awesome, Like whereyou're a privateer team.
You really wouldn't have that.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
But yeah, no.
So we do a lot of stuff likethat and I think it's, I think
it's super cool.
Well, one thing that a lot ofkids might not, might not,
understand, right, is thatthere's a lot of obligations
when you drive, especially for afactory team.
Right, like you know, um, youcan get called to events, um, on
a moment's notice.
Right, like your schedule hasto be I don't want to say
flexible, but you have to bevery, very adamant about the
decisions that you make, right,cause it's not just going to

(35:25):
these cool events.
It's like, oh shit, like, if Ihave a regular job, I got to
take off the regular job.
I got to schedule it in.
I got to like, know that I'mgoing to be gone for this amount
of time.
I know that I need to make sure.
Like you got to get your lifetogether.
You got to get a haircut, yougot to be on point, you got like
, all of these little things,dude, it's probably pretty
difficult to manage, especiallywhen you have such a busy life

(35:47):
yeah, no, that's, that's forsure.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
So, but what's also nice is that, uh, my parents
aren't on me about all of it, soit all gets like keeped up,
like, oh, if I need a haircutfor this or if I need to like
stay clean like I, I've never.
I okay, I'll admit this I'venever shaved my face a day in my
life.
It's been 18 years, that's nicethough.
So I actually really appreciateit, because then I don't have to
do as much work.

(36:09):
Yeah, but yeah, no, it's juststaying.
And then also the way youpresent yourself at the events.
It's like you can't go goof offwith your buddies, like you got
to be like, oh, like suit andtie kind of deal.
You know you can't really likeyou can be yourself, but you
can't be a distant, like adegenerate idiot, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
So it's and I honestly kind of like it better
that way, because it's justshows like okay, like if because
potential sponsors are walkingaround everywhere, like you
don't know who owns Red Bull orwho owns this or who owns that,
like and you can shake theirhand and get to know them really
good and oh hey, by the way, Iown this company Like we'd like
to sponsor you, like it's justsuper cool.
So it's getting thoseopportunities just from.
Oh yeah, go sign up to Max'sbooth with the truck there.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Does it make you want to, like do anything?
Do you miss?
Like being a kid, do you missout on that or no?

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, like yes.
Well like yes and no, like it'sso I've.
So with short course stuff I'vegrown up a little faster than
like I'd say any like a normalteenager you can put it like
that, but then it's.
It's this weird deal where it'slike I'll look at what other
kids are doing and I'm likethose guys are idiots, dude,
like what are they doing?
yeah but and then it's like I'lllook at other things, like,
okay, it looks kind of fun andlike I want to do, but I've
never been the party guy Likewhen we got to Glamis.

(37:26):
I'm in bed at like eight, 30.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Just hype, to get up and go rip.
Exactly yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
From the, from the moment the sun is up and I can
see that bikes on and I'mrunning away.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
So it's just been one of those things where it's I've
interested in that kind of thelike social norm.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I guess you could say I'd rather go out by myself or
with two buddies, go in themiddle of nowhere on dirt bikes
and go have fun.
So do you at least eatbreakfast first, yeah, yeah,
well, okay, my mom has got thisto a science.
Like when you go to, when yougo to the sand dunes with us,
you have so three differentpeople make the meal every day.
So you have breakfast, lunchand dinner for sure, and you
have three different people thatthe meal every day.
So you have breakfast, lunchand dinner for sure, and you
have three different people thatare going to do it.
And she has this whole systemfigured out Like, alright,
you're doing this dinner, you'redoing this dinner, you're doing

(38:11):
this dinner, figure it out.
No, she knows how to run a camp.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I gotta go live with you guys.
I've been eating good there isfood everywhere.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It's the best, it's the best, it's the best.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
What are you trying to make when your mom makes you
make a meal Like, what are youcooking?

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Glizzies.
Dude, I can take them down.
Yeah, I will, just because it'sfast easy.
Bam back on the bike.
Hey, not going to lie.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
My Instagram has been hitting with glizzies.
I think it's been listening tome talk and chomp on these
things because, dude, I had afull New Era hat with
embroidered glizzy on it pop up.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Unreal.
Did you add the cart?
Yes, see, exactly.
No hesitation.
Yes, no hesitation.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It was $35, too, that's funny Dang, hey I splurge
, you splurge.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Hey, we'd love to see it out there, man, online
shopping gets the best of usGoing back to the school thing.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
were you homeschooled or did you go to high school?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
No, so I went to public school my whole life.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh, dang, okay.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, no, honestly.
I love it because it's like thethings you see at public school
really teaches you a lot abouthow the world is going to be.
It's like the things you see atpublic school really teaches
you a lot about how the world isgoing to be.
You know, it's like this kiddresses like this, or this kid
does this, and it's like, oh,he's like I don't know,

(39:48):
no-transcript like last year.
Yeah, yeah so yeah, and thennow I'm in college, so sick.
That's super yeah, yeah, yeah,it's I.
It's just I don't know why it's.
It's to me it's like likeespecially now.

(40:08):
So, oh, I'm gonna go on a rantabout this.
So this teacher I have, we haveto do these written assignments
, and I don't, so it's in in apaformat and I don't even know
what apa format is.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (40:22):
it's so you have to have a whole title page, okay,
the one page is just four words,basically, or whatever it is.
And then you go down and it hasto be double-spaced, times New
Roman font and size 12 font.
And then you have to have apage of references too, that
helps you write the paper.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
It's a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah, I'm not trying, for no reason for no reason at
all and I, okay listen.
I didn't put the title page orthe references, but I had all
the other stuff in the actualparagraph.
He knocked me off 20, yeah, uh,20, and I'm like dude.
That's why I don't like it,because it's like why are you
nipping me in the ass?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
public school is rough.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
People do not give enough credit to some of the
kids that actually graduate yeah, and I'm in community college
and they're doing it there andI'm like dude, chill out it's
crazy.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I'm not trying to do that.
Even nowadays, I'll just searchon google, give me this
template and I'm going to copythat shit exactly, control,
exactly, control.
V is like your best friend dude.
It has been my friend for yearshey, were you always uh, pretty
outgoing, or were you kind ofsheltered or like uh shy, when

(41:36):
you first, like um, I don't knowgot into the second half of
your off-road career?
You know because you started asa kid and then you like matured
into what you are now.
But, um, I remember some dayswhen it was like, I don't know,
you were a little scared oftalking to the camera, kind of
thing.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Oh, yeah, for sure, like it's, at the very beginning
I was like, oh, like I don'tknow what to do, like uh, and
then I just kind of would say,like random stuff.
And honestly, what would saylike random stuff?
And honestly, what reallyhelped me was my friend group.
That was also other racers likeMason Prater, luke Knuff, like
all those guys that were justthere at the races, and like
Connor Berry, stuff like that,and it's like those people

(42:13):
helped me get out of being solike afraid of where I was at,
because it's like so much wasgoing on and I wasn't used to it
and I was like, well, like, butthen all these other kids were,
and then they brought me intotheir friend group and then we
just ran off from there.
So I was super appreciative ofthose guys because I mean, they
helped me a lot, that's for sure, socially.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I heard that he's got a special chat group.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
What's the name.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
I can't say it.
I told you, I told you, I toldyou, but it was not.
I did not make it.
I did not make it.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
But you're in it.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yeah, of course I'm in it, but I didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Guilty by association dude.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Titus.
Sherlock says you can't say thename.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh, is it like Titus gets it the first rule?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
about Fight Club is you can't talk about Fight Club.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Exactly, and I have no idea what regulation or group
shit you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah so we won't ask.
We'll forget that was aquestion.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
All right, now, every single person is going to ask
him at the next race.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Speaking of you kind of progressing in like the
social aspect of racing.
You said in an interview awhile back with george that, um,
you always have to prepare forthe worst and prepare for the
best.
So for the viewers who aren'texperienced in racing, these
like super long, long, tiringraces.
What does that kind of mean toyou?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
So, honestly, preparing for the worst is like,
okay, we have this track, wehave it all memorized and all
this.
We pre-ran our section and didthat.
But that pre-run is going tochange.
So that track is going to befrom A to B it's going to be
different, because you got guysin luxury pre-runners or in
their race trucks that arerunning through the track so
they're tearing it up even more.

(44:02):
They're race trucks that arerunning through the track, so
they're tearing it up even more.
So a rock that was on theoutside could have fallen into
the rut on the inside and youdon't know.
Until you get up to that pointand have, let's say, half a
second to react and say, oh,like, where am I going to put
the truck now?
So you have that aspect of it.
And then preparing for the bestis like you have no flat tires,
nothing wrong with the engine,everybody gets out of your way

(44:24):
when you hit the stella, or ifthey just know, or you can pass
them, and it's like just abeautiful day, like no dust,
there's wind blowing the dustsomewhere.
So you got to prepare for bothsides of the story.
Most of the time it's going toland further, closer to the
worst section, but sometimes itcould be up in the middle where
it's half and half.
You have a good day and thenyou have some straggling of a

(44:45):
bad day, so it's just you gottalike it's a desert, no one's
prepping that track, like it'sjust you go out there and just
have fun.
So it's one of those thingswhere it's like, okay, I could
see the gnarliest thing I'veever seen in my life, or it's
just what I'm used to, and justhit the same.
Just do your hit your marks.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Bella, we've talked about this before, like it kind
of in a different context, butabout expectations right, like
you don't want to have the veryhigh level of expectations for
other people, right, you want togive them the opportunity to
showcase themselves and to do ittheir way Right.
But you have very highexpectations for yourself right,
because you can change all ofthe stuff that happens on your

(45:26):
path to make it so that you're awinner at the end of the day
right.
Whether you just crossed thefinish line and you had a
horrible day, or you crossed thefinish line and you smoked
everybody, like whatever it is,those expectations that you have
is what he's talking about.
Gauging and all of the stuff isbasically the way that he sorts
it out in his head, andeverybody has a different way of

(45:46):
doing it.
You do right like, when you goout to a race, you do something
very similar.
Right?
You say, okay, this is my gameplan, this is what we're going
to do today, and we're going tohope for the best as well yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
I think definitely expecting from both sides is a
good thing.
Just to mentally prepareyourself for like, okay, this
could possibly happen, but I'mgoing to be ready for it.
And when?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
it happens, I'm going to know exactly what to do.
Do you guys do that on a normaldaily basis, like does racing
teach you how to act like thaton a daily basis, like whether
it's at work or school?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, no, absolutely Like.
What racing has taught me islike there's cameras everywhere,
so there's eyes on you at alltimes.
No matter where you are stagingtech, this there's cameras on
you.
So when you make a decision,somebody's going to catch it on
camera.
So think of that as like to thework, like okay, like the
shop's a little messy if I leaveit here, the camera's going to

(46:42):
catch me leaving the dirt hereor whatever it is, and so now
they're gonna say, oh, whydidn't you clean that up?
And it's a lot of forwardthinking, I feel like.
So what's what I've been taughtis like think of head, like if
you're gonna place a palletright here, think about what's
behind it and in that area, likeokay, is this part gonna need

(47:02):
to get moved?
Then I'm gonna have to movethis.
Waste of time, waste of propaneon the forklift, waste the
everything.
You know what I mean.
So just do it right the firsttime exactly a lot of forward
thinking and not just, oh, putit right there, let's go like
you're not in a rush all thetime, like you may be late for
something but you can still staycalm, keep a level head and say
, okay, I, okay, I need to takethis, I need this and I need

(47:24):
this.
We can go, we're going to belate, but for the person that
you're meeting, like, hey, I'mgoing to be a little late, this
and this and this, so just a lotof like think ahead, that's for
sure, that's what I've takenaway.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, that's just good worth ethic too Like you're
going to go on the rest of yourlife and maybe potentially get
other jobs and people be likedang, like he doesn't half-ass a
job, Like he does the fullthing and he does it right.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Well, and that means respect from that that means
that also, he's like since he'salready thinking ahead, that
means that everything that comesout of his mouth is going to be
a truer statement too, becausehe's not going to be like
half-assing something or tellingsomebody that something's going
to happen and it doesn't happen.
He just knows that it's goingto happen and he's going to
follow through with it.
Those are really, those arereally good qualities that go

(48:08):
both ways, though, dude, likethey go really well in life,
because it means that you'reeven if you see somebody else
that's struggling, you're goingto help them because you might
see the path before they do, butthen, adversely, it's going to
come right back to you, becauseyou're going to use that in
every single aspect of whenyou're holding on to the
steering wheel going through,like, let's just say, baja 1000,

(48:30):
which is coming up yeah, yeah,no, exactly like it can hurt you
too.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Like if you're thinking ahead but then you
think wrong, then it's like oh,I just missed out on this
opportunity to pass, or I missedout on this.
So it's a a lot of like youjust got to think, like you just
got to be on your toes thewhole time.
Like you, there's no chill inoff-road racing, especially
behind the wheel of a Chevytruck.
It's like you have to be on thewheel the whole time.
You can't sit back, settle down.

(48:56):
It's like you gotta know,because it's things are coming
up at a hundred miles an hour.
And that's like I got aco-driver with a family at home,
so I can make a mistake.
That is super vile andsomething could happen.
So god forbid that ever happens.
But yeah, no, it's just a lotof like.
Okay, there's the action andthere's always going to be a
reaction, no matter what.

(49:17):
So what's going to happen?
You either gauge it right, yougauge it wrong and you mess up.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
So yeah, but you're accountable for those actions.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
One of the things I was going to ask, though, too,
bella is.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So you guys have both been in the UTV class, right
Like?
Ethan used to race the prostock class for Honda, and you
obviously race a UTV too, bella.
What is the fastest speeds thatyou guys ever hit in a UTV?
You go first, bella.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Do you remember, like on a straightaway at one of the
hammers lake bed?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
yeah, probably somewhere around like 106 oh, so
you've gotten over the three.
Okay, cool, that's really fast.
And how about you even?
Yeah, that's not me.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I didn't do that in utv, I did.
I think they govern the talonsat 85 and a half miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
And I was at 97, right Like, and that's the
fastest I've ever gone, but thatwas on a short course in Reno.
I never got to do it in thedesert.
But the question that I wasgoing to ask was, comparatively
speaking because I know Bella'sgoing to want to know this
answer how much different is itgoing let's just say, 140 in the

(50:26):
trophy truck with 6,000 poundsbehind you, than it was going
close to 90 in a side-by-side,because most people that are
going to watch or listen to thiswill never understand how much
different it feels with justthat little increment of speed,
because it's so much more weight, it's so much more power, it's
so much more velocity.
Like all of the changes?
Yeah, I mean there's so manyjust different it's a science.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
More velocity, like all of the changes, yeah, I mean
, there's so many, justdifferent.
It's a science you know, we'renot just out there doing random
stuff, it's a science andthere's stuff happening.
So the main difference to me isthe seating position in a utd to
a truck, because the utv you'relike pretty much as far up,
almost as you can go, where theCG is still kind of in balance

(51:05):
In the truck you're like smackcenter, so you have this super
big hood and just you feel howlong you are compared to a UTV,
a four-seater UTV or even atwo-seater, and it's just you
feel like.
So when we would float in theseven truck we did 140 and that
truck would start to float at130.

(51:27):
So the truck would just so airwould get scooped underneath the
truck and you would rise up andyou'd be driving on the little
bit of traction that you had onthose 40s and it would just
dance.
So it would just stance andskid along the track and it was
almost like any little movement.
It would go and it would wantto run because then it would
settle down, catch grip and gothat way.

(51:48):
So and then in the utb it wasjust planted the whole time, it
was just going through.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
So yeah, it starts it was also.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
It was an na car, so you didn't have the turbo and
everything you didn't have 106,like bella no, no, I only had 85
and a half but, half but.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I can vouch for what he's talking about and the
reason I wanted to bring this upbecause, like we talked about
before, there's so many littledetails that happen in this,
like when you're doing that.
I've been in the seven truckdoing that with Jeff Proctor
when he was going.
I think we only went maybe 127,130 or something.
But anyways it's very similar towhat Ethan's talking about, and
when you get to the point whereit's dancing like that, there

(52:28):
is really little control thatyou have, and most of it is not
with the steering wheel, it'swith the way that you're putting
the back tires on the ground,because you're timing it.
It's like it is like dancing,right, it's almost like tap
dancing, where you're reallylightly touching on things, so

(52:49):
you're using your, your throttle, as it's loose traction, but
it's the only traction you have,so you have to make sure that
it drives you forward, and yougot to be really careful with
the steering wheel so it doesn'tpitch sideways, because once it
pitches sideways, you can't getit back yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
And then that's when the truck settles again, because
your shocks are all there, theydon't know what's happening,
because it's just so like thewind is taking you.
And so when the truck just getsthat little bit more of rubber
down, it's just it wants to go,it wants to find the traction.
So yeah, no, it's, it's superfun, but when you're done doing

(53:19):
it, yeah, that's that's whenyou're done safely doing it.
That's what it's fun, whenyou're done doing it.
Yeah, that's that's when you'redone, safely doing it.
That's when it's fun.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
But that's where your your perception really helps
you, though, because you youlike the things that go through
your brain in a millisecond.
Most people can't processinformation that quick, Like
it's, it's crazy, and then liketo go on an easier path than
talking about this Once you put40 inch tires on it inch tires

(53:45):
on it, it helps a lot too.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh yeah, for sure.
I think being just a little bituncomfortable while you're
racing at such high speeds is agood thing.
I mean you don't want to belike super, super uncomfortable,
like physically, I just meanlike just a little bit, like is
this safe?
Is what I'm doing?

Speaker 3 (53:57):
yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, yeah you have to have
that little bit in the back ofyour mind because you're doing
speeds that you should not bedoing no you should not be in
the desert going over whoopsthat are taller than some people
at 100 miles an hour like youknow, it's like that should not
happen.
It's physically shouldn't happen, but we're doing it, so like
you're taking a huge risk with 6000 pounds, like you're not

(54:18):
light and you're not short oryou're not small, so it's like
it's.
It's just one of those things,but we take the risk and we have
fun.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
It's kind of crazy to even talk about right now,
cause, like five years ago youwouldn't have been talking about
140.
You'd have been talking aboutlike 110, 120.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
And that was a lot.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, like.
So like all the technology andstuff that you were talking
about earlier, like it reallyhas drastically improved, and I
don't know how to say like maybeit's what you guys are saying
right now, too, about like beingon the edge a little bit, or
like past your comfort zone,like maybe that's what's
progressed it past the 120 markto the 140 mark, right yeah,

(54:54):
just people wanting to alwaysget better, stronger, yeah,
faster, yeah, it's, it's scary,but at the same time it's like
what?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
what else are we capable of?
What is the racing?
Industry going to look like in10 years from now.
Well, it's, it's scary, but atthe same time it's like what.
What else are we capable of?
What is the racing industrygonna look like in 10 years from
now?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
well it's pretty clear if you get a faster motor,
you're gonna go like 130 in autv dude smoking all of us
unreal I know it was just thatlake bed.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
There was nothing there.
That's why did it.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
How did it feel for you going that fast?
Very scary because it getstwitchy, yeah, yeah it's, it's.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean, I loved my pro xp.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
It had a really good foundation, but at speeds like
that it was we should ask someof the people that are online
listening to the show right nowand then, if you guys do want to
comment in like later too, tellus what the fastest speed that
you've been in your off-roadvehicle, whether it's a side by
side, yeah well, I don't want toknow about street stuff,
because that's illegal yeah,yeah, speed limit only around

(55:51):
here, yeah I do.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I am curious about a bike, though I've.
I don't really know much aboutbikes, but about their bikes,
like you just interviewed JohnnyCampbell.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
bro, you're the Bible on dirt bikes.
Well, one 26, dude, your dad beflying.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Andy for shorts, got it down.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
So, speaking about speaking of bikes, dude, we got
to get you down to that rip, toCabo's insane Dude, I, I need to
go, I need to go.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I'm going to text Cameron steel right now.
Yeah, you and I, and Bella,you've got to come too.
We'll teach you how to ride adirt bike.
I'm down, let's go.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Are you going to take the 110 all the way to Cabo?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
yeah, I'm going to fix that thing up.
I got it.
It has a chubby rocket exhaust.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I don't know what that is, but it sounds like it
rips.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
It's a carbon fiber little exhaust.
That's like yay big, oh, it's astud one.
The loudest you can get.
Especially if you take thebaffle out.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You're that girl.
Oh yeah, Did you take thebaffle out?

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I did Watch out Bella's coming.
You'll be able to hear me,that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Chris Berg said he did a 107.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
On corn.
What the heck is corn CornfieldE85.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Oh, got it.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Me Cornfield.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
On one cornfield 85.
Oh, got it me cornfield, my e85.
Thank you, chris, forexplaining that to me.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Now I'm gonna use that icon way more.
Can you tell us the mostembarrassing moment in racing?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
his most embarrassing moment or something he saw.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Oh man, that's a good one.
Well, my sister actually has avideo of it and she knows
exactly what I'm talking aboutwhen she hears me talk about
this.
Okay, I, I don't even rememberwhat year mod card I was in, but
it was like very beginning,like I wasn't, like I had just
gotten in the car and so I Ididn't really know, like okay, I

(57:50):
didn't know how to drive a modcar, basically, and yeah, you
can see her commenting.
So I, I I will admit I did twodonuts at glenn helen, I think
it was out of what is that?
One?
Two out of three turn threesuper wet.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I didn't see it and right hander is always wet there
I know I hate I.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I honestly I cannot do right hand corners in a short
course track like I don't knowwhat it is.
Right hander I always not foryou put it on the bike or
something, but yeah, we need tosign you up for nascar dude, I
will do it, I will do an rp.
But yeah, I did two donuts inmod cart and my sister has that
video favorited and pinned soshe can just watch it all the

(58:33):
time, like, oh, blackmail, yeah,like remember this, one time
you did this in mod car, yeah, Iwas like 13 I still think, I
still think party trick yeah,basically, maybe that's what you
should start doing is like, ifthe off-road career ever goes
south, just start doing donutsat parties.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Dude, I will be that guy.
Oh yeah, I will be that guy.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I remember a funny story because Ethan was shy one
time when he was I think it wasa California 300.
He was on the podium and I wassitting there and I was like
yelling at him.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
He didn't hear me and I just started like zooming in
on his sunglasses because he hadthe greatest sunglasses on the
whole life.
You're the reason I do.
I, if you've noticed, I have adifferent pair every rate, like
every tech.
Now, yeah, like dude, I foundmy like my dad wore these, um,
like little thin gucci uhsunglasses that were like
totally 2000s.
They are sick, by the way, but Ibusted them out for vegas arena
and then like I I bought somefolk leads down in mexico like
that were like this big, likesuper gnarly.

(59:36):
We got two pairs for 15 bucksoh what a steal I'll say but
then, yeah, and now I'm like I'mready to bust out a new pair
for the thousand dude.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Yeah, I'm just saying I think instead of visor, you
should just open it and putthose on and start racing.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Some guys do that, but I just like that dark tinted
visor, so I like that a lot,but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I don't know Get uncomfortable and rip them off?
Do you wear a clear one, or doyou wear like a shaded one or a
gradient one?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It depends on what race, but most of the time I go
with clear, just because I knowthat I'm always going to have
the safest bet with that.
Yeah, if I'm racing at nightand I don't know how long I'm
going to be out there at night.
It's not like I can change itreal quick, so yeah, no that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
So I actually funny story about that the mint 400.
This year.
I was like, oh, we keep thetinted visor on, we'll be good,
we're trophy trucks, we're goingto finish in a day.
I had brake failure and didn'thave brakes the whole last lap.
Guess who was putting throughthe course with the tinted visor

(01:00:38):
on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Way to go, dude.
We still got third you knowthat now they sell those tinted
stickers, so you can just poptear-offs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
They're dialed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I think it's the cruise armor right and you just
rip it off.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, I don't, I just seen it.
Uh, Chris Berg said what aboutthe brake line under the truck?
We already talked.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
we already talked about that bird, yeah.
So my God actually.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
So Chris is going to have to go.
I can't believe he hasn't beenwatching this whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
It's a really good story.
We're all laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I'm still laughing.
Evan's not laughing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
No, evan's pissed.
I did want to ask if you wereto try out a more standard sport
like football or baseball.
How do you think you would do?
Dude?

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
yeah, I used to play.
I used to do all the stick andball sports.
I did soccer, football,baseball, wrestling, you tried
it all, yeah.
So I did all that stuff becauseI had nothing else to do.
So I was like, all right, we'lldo that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I couldn't see you wrestling dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Dude, it was sick.
Like I honestly like I'm a bigUFC guy, so it's like I just
love watching that stuff becauseit it's like it's not just
violence, it's like an art, youknow, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
So it's like yeah, but if those guys punch you in
the face, you're toast.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Yeah, I know, yeah, so, but I'd love to do it, but I
just I don't know.
I don't think sponsors wouldlike to see a crooked nose and
all that Cauliflower ears.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I want that so bad because, like you, don't mess
with the dude with cauliflowerhere no, no, you just walk
around like you don't mess withhim yeah, if he's got a big, old
, crooked nose and like acauliflower, you just walk away,
you're done when you kind ofentered into racing, were you
like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
this is my calling, this is what I'm here for, oh
yeah no, like the first race Idid, I think I got third or
something.
And the first race I did I waslike dude, like this is, it's
not slow, like baseball was slowand like oh wait for the ball,
and like all that.
But when I got into the actuallike race truck, it was like

(01:02:39):
dude, like it's on, like we haveadrenaline the whole time, I'm
able to do something differentand I can get hit in the face
with rocks or this could happen,I could flip, I could do this,
like this is sick.
So I like stopped focusing onall the other sports and was
like dude, I have no aspirationto do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Yeah, it just it doesn't fit for everybody, but
like somebody that has a highlevel of energy and especially
like adrenaline, like Ethan, itfits perfect for, especially
when you're doing like stuff atsuch a high speed.
But I remember this though, too, so let's take it back a little
bit.
It hasn't always been easy,right.
Like I remember, there was onepoint where I think you were

(01:03:20):
driving a UTV before you got inthe truck you had done I think
it might have even been aCalifornia 300 again, and there
was a point in the race that youwere like dude, I don't know if
I'm gonna be able to last, likeI'm hurting, and that was a
career changing moment for you.
And you like, after that raceyou were like hey, you know what
, I'm gonna get in shape, I'mgonna listen to what everybody

(01:03:40):
has to tell me.
Like it was like an attitudeadjustment, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
right, yeah, no, I mean, and it was like in my head
that was super embarrassing,like, oh, you're such a wimp
that you like you can't man upand just finish the race.
So I was like dude, like I tookit to heart.
I was like all right, I'm like,I'm done being like being
counted out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
And oh, Ethan can't last this long.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
He can only do 100 miles or 200 miles, then he's
out.
It's like no dude like I.
It was just such like a to meit was.
It was like demoralizing.
It was like it was a super bigdeal where I thought in my head,
like am I cut out for this?
Like can I actually hang out,like with the big dogs that do
this all the time?

(01:04:20):
Like it's nothing?
And it was like a super weird.
Like do I keep doing this?
Like dad's putting in a lot ofmoney?
Like it's not, like we're doingthis for free.
So it it's like are we wastingmoney just for me to?
Nah, I don't like it, and thengo back and do something else.
You know, but it was.
It was to that point where Iwas like all right, like this is
where I got to show everyonelike hey, dude, like I'm not

(01:04:42):
here to mess around, like I'mhere to get on that podium and
leave.
Like get up, get to the race,pre-run race and get out of
there so what did you do, though?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
what are the changes that you made?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
a lot of dietary stuff, so a lot of that, and
then lifting a bunch of weightsand like I've just recently
started running about two milesas as many times as I can, so
just super like endurance levelkind of training, like like
training if you're gonna racethe lamans or training like if
you're gonna to race the FormulaOne car.
Like a lot of neck stuff too.
Like I've done a lot of neckexercises where, because we're

(01:05:15):
pulling Gs all the time in thetruck without even noticing and
your neck is like my neck getsroached after the race.
But it's like I had my neck thewhole time for the race.
I wasn't kind of dipping downand like losing all crazy.
So definitely a lot of dietarystuff and a lot of just lifting
more weights yeah, you dohand-eye coordination stuff uh

(01:05:37):
like a little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
So I we have the um, the little light things that the
401 guys have yep but yeah sothey call that like they call it
, the twitch reflex, like thequicker you can, the quicker you
can do stuff and the quickeryour hand-eye coordination
becomes, the easier it becomes.
It's like what Ethan said atthe beginning when it slows down
for you.
I'll explain it a little bittoo, in a very modest way.

(01:06:02):
When I came from dirt bikeracing and I first raced a
side-by-side, everything was somuch faster in dirt bike racing
that when I got into side-by wewere doing 85 or so miles an
hour at firebird, at wild horsepass, and I felt like I could
eat a sandwich going down thestraightaway into a quarter
because everything was so slowin my head that's crazy

(01:06:24):
but it was and.
But what he's talking about isexactly what he didn't know
before is all of a sudden he'smaking all these little changes.
Now he feels like he canIronman a 1000.
Now he has confidence to beable to make sure that he's
making the right decisions, he'saccountable for those decisions
.
He listens to people.
He did all that stuff in a veryshort span of time.

(01:06:44):
Like that, to me, is a goodpath for kids to understand, or
even adults understand, tosuccess.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
For sure, because there's a lot of kids out there
that don't treat their bodiesvery well and stuff, and then
later down the road when they're30 or 40 years old they're
really paying for it?
Yeah, for sure.
So it's good that you'retackling it now yeah, absolutely
.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
And then like in my head.
So my dad used to be abodybuilder when he was kind of
growing up, and so exactly in myhead it's like dude, like to
see the physical like feet ofwhat the human body can do is
crazy.
Yeah, it's like we're allsuperheroes.
You just gotta unlock thatskill set that you have and then
get fit and then there you go.

(01:07:25):
It's like you just it's supercool.
It's like you'll go frombenching like maybe 135 pounds,
now you're up to 225.
Like you can push 225 pounds ofweight off.
You just like that.
Like I feel like that's, that'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It is.
It's just the motivation,getting people to go past, like
the mind barriers that they have.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
What are some mind barriers that you had?

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
It was a lot of.
Am I like?
How should I say that it was alot of?
Am I capable to do it, or am Ithe right person to do it?
You?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
know the belief in yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Yeah, exactly, it's like do I have what it takes
inside in my mind to get my bodyright?
And it was a lot of like like,okay, like anybody can do it.
It's like you look at all theseprofessional boxers or this or
that or that, it's like thoseare regular dudes, like those
guys all are us, but they havedone changes to themselves that

(01:08:24):
anybody can do.
Really like I've seen guys makeweights with they pour concrete
and then they weigh it andthey're okay, there you go,
that's your weight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Like you can do stuff with less technology and less
uh, opportunities and you canget to the same level as these
other guys yeah, it's kind ofcrazy to think about that like
and bella, we've talked aboutthis a lot like normal is only
normal for what you think it isyeah, exactly, exactly, yeah.
So you can achieve anything,and I tell everybody this all

(01:08:54):
the time.
If the eyes of perception wereclear, everybody would see
everything for what it actuallyis, which is infinite.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Oh yeah, people think you live in this small little
box and you can't, you can't getaway from this little box
forever.
But the world is so huge.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Did you have a hard time breaking out of that box?
Did you have to sit there, likebefore you go to bed, and be
like all right, like kickingyourself in the in the ass, in
your head, right Like, and beinglike dude?
You got to make some changes,like if you want to achieve
these goals and dreams, like yougot to man up Like how did you
do it for yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Yeah, I mean it was a lot of what you just said.
What you just said it was a lotof laying in bed looking at the
ceiling like dude, like okay,you've done the same thing over
and over and over and youhaven't seen a change.
Change only happens when youmake a change.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
So it's like dude, like you gotta, and it's like
the stuff that you don't want todo helps you the most.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Yes, evan Weller just joined.
Evan just joined.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Oh no, yeah, let's if .

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Evan wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Evan asked if you can join the show real quick.
Hold on, let me see if I canget Evan on here real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Oh Lord, Get him in here.
He's probably with Austinworking on the truck right now
as we speak.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Dude.
I hope I can get him in here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Let's see if he'll accept, because I want to hear
his side.
I haven't heard his side.
I've never asked him about it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Let's see if he can come on.
All right, Evan, hopefullyhe'll come on.
I'm sending you an invite rightnow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Come on, dude.
Yeah, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I'm going to find Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Hey, you haven't heard the whole show yet, I'm
sure, but we were talking aboutwhen you were trying to fix some
brake lines.
Brake lines, hold on one sectrying to fix some brake lines.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Brake lines Hold on one sec.
It's going to switch to Wi-Fi.
Alright, one sec, we're goingto Wi-Fi right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
This is going to be so epic.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
I'm going to go check out.
Ethan's chariot for tomorrow.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Let's go see that bad boy real quick.
We got to see if it's going tochange the Wi-Fi real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Yep Plus there we gotta see if it's gonna change
the wifi real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yep, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
I think it clicked over.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Austin in the flesh look at him, go there, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Austin, you're live to 100,000 people right now.
Look at that.
It went from 17 viewers to 38in like two seconds.
Look at that.
I'm telling you.
Evan Willard Pratt brings it in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Yeah, Was it Austin or Evan?
Do you think it?
Was definitely Austin, my guyhey give us a tour of the
Ridgeline real quick so we cansee the inside where Ethan's
office is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah, all right, here office is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, here she is.
Give us a little bit of abreakdown or a little
commentating here real quickwhen we see this Ethan.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Okay, so you're stepping in the office right
there.
That's the most comfortablesteering wheel I think you could
ever get, just because it's theperfect size.
And you got that beautifulmotech dash sitting there
screaming at you the whole timeand you have all the compression
, rebound neutral button thatyou never hit because you don't
need it.
And then you have the siren onthe left and then radio on the
right, and then I never reallylook at the gps, to be honest,

(01:12:02):
but it's there so it's nice tohave.
But yeah, and then the only theonly thing I have on the switch
that's important on that panelis the Parker pumper.
That's my only job, that's it.
That's the Parker pumper,that's it.
Look at that and then to movemy seat forward and back and
that's all I can do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah, that's all you need.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Yeah, all right.
So Evan we had a discussionearlier about when you guys were
in the seven truck and you hadto repair some brake lines and
Ethan had just drank, I think,64 ounces of fluid logic.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Yeah, I think it was.
It's happened a few times.
It happened to me once with theprogram with who was driving.
It was Jamie Campbell was inthe truck and he peed on me.
Dude, jamie Campbell peed on meonce and Ethan Ebert Peed on me
.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Jesus, dude, these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Unreal.
It's happened a few times now.
Honestly, I don't rememberwhich race was that again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Vegas Torino In the new truck.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Yeah, it wasn't a brake line it was a drive shaft
got it, oh no it was a brakeline.
Yeah, it was a brake line yeah,it was, it was the um, it was
the handbrake we blew up.
Yeah, you had to cap it offfirst or second race with that
truck and, uh, the brand newtilted master cylinder handbrake
blew out.
But yeah, that was interesting,it happens.

(01:13:31):
It happens to the best of us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
What was your initial reaction?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
I just embraced it.
Honestly, when you're downthere in the middle of a race
and you're trying to getsomething fixed and you got four
people standing around therestaring at you, you just do what
you gotta do Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
what a champion move dude.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
It's solid.
I told you Glory, every well orprep gets it done.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
That is solid, dude, that is so solid.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
That is so sick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Yeah, it happens.
So you guys are going drivingtomorrow, or?

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
what Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, 3.30.
Barstow, maine, is what I wastold.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I think it's 4.30.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
3.30 is when we're meeting you there, but 430 might
be the test.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I'm actually going to drive your truck, yeah.
You're going to drive my truck,yeah you're picking my truck up
from Alexander Ford tomorrow in.
Yuma, Arizona.
Shout out to Alexander Ford,the best Ford dealership this
side of the Mississippi and theother side of the Mississippi
and the other side of theMississippi.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
They're well-rounded dude.
That's cool that you get topick that bad boy up, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
They're doing a solid for me, eric.
We were just in Texas with themand I was kind of telling Eric
my stress that I had this weekcoming up and I had to drive to
Yuma and pick that thing upbecause they're doing some
service work on it.
And Eric was like, oh, I'lljust pick it up for you.
We're driving out from Tucson,it's on the way.
I'm like all right, if youdon't mind.
That would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Well, you realize that Ethan owes you right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Does he owe me?
I don't even remember aboutthat.
No way that would be embeddedin my head.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Dude, evan is solid.
Hey, thanks, we'll let you getback to it.
Thanks for joining us for alittle while.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Thank you, no worries .
Yeah, we'll see you guys later.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Hey, congrats on the new truck, dude.
See you tomorrow, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Later.
Thank you, see you.
Thank you See ya, bye.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Dude, that is hilarious.
I love the off-road world somuch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
He was so cool.
That's the first time I've methim.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
He's the coolest guy ever.
He's so cool.
Yeah, that is so sick.
The fact that he just took inall the glory wasn't even bad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
It was just another day.
That's crazy.
Another day under a racetrack.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
I mean, when you think about it, it's better than
hot oil.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
That's true.
Took it like a champ.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Dude for real.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I would have strangled Ethan, but yeah, I was
waiting for a fist to comethrough that window.
I was like, oh, I'm screweddude, Like next pit stop, I'm
done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Nope, oh my God.
Well, do you got any morequestions?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
No, I just want to talk a little bit about the way
that he's handled himself.
I've said it already again, andI think this has a lot of value
to especially the crowd and thefans that you have on the show
Everything that he's done is fora goal, right.
He wants to be a championshiprace car driver, right, and he's

(01:16:36):
positioned himself in thosepositions and he's faced
adversity.
And those adversity piecesweren't easy for him to overcome
.
And the way that he looked atit was he was accountable for
his own decisions.
He put a lot of pressure onhimself and he figured out most
of it, I would say, on his ownRight.
Yeah, but when he couldn'tfigure it out, he went to the

(01:16:56):
support mechanisms that he had,whether it be his family,
whether it be his team orwhoever it was, and he looked at
those guys and said you knowwhat?
I'm not too afraid to askquestions, even if I think
they're stupid.
I'm going to get an answerthat's going to make me better.
So as long as I'm accountable,as long as I'm a sponge and I
listen, I will be winning bymaking these decisions, and I

(01:17:18):
think that's very, very valuable.
And if you can or can't drive atruck, that's up to whoever is
in the truck and how fast youcan go.
But, those other things iswhat's going to make you a
winning race car driver.
Yeah, that's definitely one ofthe reasons why I brought you on
here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
One because I knew that you were hilarious and
you'd make everybody laugh.
But also because I knew howmotivated you are, and
especially with something likeI've never seen, someone that
has so much passion in theindustry being at such a young
age too, that you're going tocarry that with you for the rest
of your career.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
So props to you for sure, thank you.
Speaking of that motivation in,the career?

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
is there expectations that you have for the short
term and for the long term?
Honestly, I look at every raceweekend and say, all right, we
have the opportunity to win this.
It's not like I'm kicked outbecause of Mason All-Wheel
Drives race and no, those trucksbreak and stuff happens.
So, like life happens really.
So it's never really countingitself out.
But what I do want to do is bea champion in score.
That would be awesome, you know, because Bryce Benzies is

(01:18:28):
looking to do it at a two-peatright now.
So I want to just dominate somuch in every race that SCORE
has that I did it so much betterthan everybody else that I get
to have that red plate.
Just like, if you're inSupercross or Motocross, like
you don't mess with a guy with ared plate, like that's top dog,
like you don't mess with him.
So I feel like I've beenchasing that red plate for years

(01:18:48):
now, for absolutely years andyou're getting closer and closer
yeah, no, he just just a littlebit more fine-tuning.
And that's like my favoritething is fine-tuning a truck,
like when we were doing thatwhole development, like we're
still developing the truck still, but everything of, okay, the
truck just got off the table,just got plumbed, just got wired
, everything, let's go test it.

(01:19:10):
Like from that point to whereit is now, like this is a
complete different truck.
So it's just a lot of likepowering through, like, okay,
the truck is, it's garbage rightnow.
Like, let's be honest, it'sgarbage right now.
But there's time and time andtime again that we can prove the
truck and every time you'regoing to learn something
different.

(01:19:30):
So if you're not takingsomething away from every race,
then you're doing somethingwrong, yeah.
So if you're not taking okay,we did good here and here and
here yeah, take the good away,but take the bad away as well.
Because if you're not takingthe bad away, then you're just
hyping yourself up for somethingthat you should be doing, and
without negative criticism yeah,exactly you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
reagan karmica used to always say.
He says you win thechampionships on your bad days.
You'd be accountable.
You'd be accountable for all ofthe things that you know that
are bad.
All you do is fix them exactlylike that's the easiest way to
win.
You just fix all the bad shityeah, yeah, like if there's an
issue.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
You can solve an issue like it's not like.
This issue is just oh, it'sunsolvableolvable.
We don't know how to do it.
There's a solution to everysingle issue in the world.
It's how you think aboutgetting around the issue.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Well, but like this day and age, most people are
passive and they try to pass thebuck.
Oh, that's not really me.
Like that's somebody else.
Like no, it's your problem.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Like if you want to win.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
All right, Bella, do you want to do a rapid fire?
Q&a.
Ethan's already answered someof these questions in a previous
episode, but I think it wouldbe cool to do it together.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
All right, you ready, ethan, I'll go first and then
Bella can go second.
Tacos or hot dogs Tacos Thankyou, dialed.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
There you go Chicken or carne asada.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
He's probably a big chicken guy.
Now, I'm such a big chicken guy, chicken and rice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Oh my gosh, chicken, rice, cheese and sriracha.
Live off of it, live off of it.
I gotta try that.
Real chicken, though, realchicken.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
That's the way to go now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
I already know the answer to this, but dunes or the
river Dun.
That's the way to go now.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Well, I already know the answer to this, but dunes or
the river Dunes Duh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Action shots or still shots.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
Action for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Yeah, well, now that you cut your hair, the still
shots would be looking better.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I know right, we still got the wings dude, yeah.
So now I just need a Red Bulldeal and then I can go fly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Calm down, dude.
My bad, my bad, I'm a littleamped.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Let's see here, oh, three-wheeler or quad Quad.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I'm a quad god.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
No, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
I didn't know that.
No, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
I'm building mine right now.
Like we tore it down to theframe and we repowdered it and
everything.
Like it's going to be badasswhen it's done.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Okay, he's hyped on it, but we'll make fun of him
all day and he's accountable forit.
Like he's fine.
Oh, I don't care Me and my best, buddy Tyler we're quad gods.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
And we're going to say it for the rest of our life,
because we're better thaneverybody else on the quad.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
That's crazy, the level of hype.
Dude pizza rolls or jalapenopoppers.
Jalapeno poppers hey, what'syour sister?
Is it jalapeno poppers or pizzarolls?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
I feel like she's a pizza rolls girl my sister eats
whatever she can because she's abroke college kid and she lives
like she has two cents to hername have you ever had pizza
rolls with that olive gardenItalian dressing?
Because it's pretty fire no, Ididn't even know that was the
whole deal switch it out forranch.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Oh yeah, we kind of already asked this, but you're
not allowed to answer the sameanswer.
What's your go-to song at thestarting line?

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
You've got to have your go-to rap song.
Tore Up by Don Tolliver.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
I've ever heard that one.
Is it good?
It's a pretty good song.
It's a pretty good song.
I'll back that one or ThuggishRuggish Redbone, that one's good
too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Okay, okay, you buy bone thugs.
You got to serve me yourplaylist.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I need to hear this dude I put everything you need,
everything.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
All right, coffee or tea coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
I'm not a tea guy, like tea's kind of gross.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Yeah back up dude a little bit okay, oh my bad, my
bad favorite movie aren't youyeah favorite movie cars one
yeah, favorite movie Cars One.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
The OG.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Valid oh yeah, instagram or Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Instagram I'm 18.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Yeah, I don't even think I have Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Hey, I have it for Marketplace oh true.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Yeah, Facebook Marketplace be doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
I did, and then Facebook Marketplace disappeared
, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
No, you're not banned .
That disappeared.
That's what you did.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
You got banned.
Nuh-uh, you got shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
So my buddies have gotten banned too, and you can't
get to it.
Really, what did?
I do so you low-balled somebodyand they reported you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Oh, did you really.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Dang.
I'm going to have to figurethat out later.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
It was probably some older lady, karen, and you're
like I'm not going to pay thatmuch for this flower vase, and
she's like bam you out.
Yeah.
Let's see here If you couldhave one superpower.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Yeah, if you could have one superpower.
What would it be?
Superpower?
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Honestly, I think I'd want to be like I'd want to fly
for sure, for sure, becauselike, oh, I'm craving a pina
colada, bam, I'm in cabo.
Okay, like I always said that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I always said that like because flying would be
sick.
But, like I always said, youknow how?
They have that movie jumperwhere you can just like pop
yourself into different spots oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be
cool.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
That'd be pretty dope .

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Yeah, netflix or.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
YouTube.
I'm such an iPad kid I loveYouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
All right, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Mainly for Cletus McFarlane.
That's it Really.
That's it, dude.
That dude is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I watch him too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Yeah, videos or photos Video.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Yeah.
I feel like it captures moreMost memorable race.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Oh, we already know that she did two donuts.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
True.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Yeah, it's never going to go away.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
Never, ever, ever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Favorite snack Sour Skittles.
I'm a sour skittles guy, notSour Patch Kids.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Those are like eh, Because then it gets in your
gums and you're like pickingthem out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
The nice thing about Skittles, though, is you can
bring them in the off-road truckand they still be solid when
you're done at the race Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
That's what I do for a little blood sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I have these chips.
They're like chili lime chipsthat I get at the gas station.
They're like chili lime chipsthat I get at the gas station
Best ever.
Sounds good.
They're like pork rinds, thoughI don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Oh, those chicharrones.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Yes, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Yeah, hey, did we talk about this before, but have
you ever?

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
had the Doritos in Mexico.
Dude, so much better.
Yeah, so much better.
I don't know what we're doingwrong in the States, but the
people down there making theDoritos top notch.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Perfect.
They actually taste like nachocheese, yeah, and then they have
ones with more cheese than thatin Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Yeah, and like every chip is like coated.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yeah, they don't chip you out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
No, no, and the corn is better too.
So like I, no, no, and the cornis better too, so like I'll
bring some back for you nexttime?

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I'd love to try it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Super Cross or Motocross.
Super Cross because you havemore competition.
True Motocross it's like Deeganchecks out and then we're
watching nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Yeah, I'm a Deegan fan though.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
I'm a fan of Deegan, so you already like you.
Obviously last week you did atest with, or you got to meet,
yuki Sonoda and like to get some.
You probably got to at leasttalk about F1 and stuff, but
what other form of racing wouldyou like to try?

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Honestly, like I'd love to do road stuff just
because it's like short course,but you throw another aspect of
speed, intensity and a lot moredifferent.
Like cardio, like short courseis really easy because you're
just flying through, like you'reonly doing like 20 laps and you
just blow through it and you'relike okay, I'm a little tired,
a little sore, but it's nothinglike that you shrug about, but

(01:27:23):
like some, road racing would besweet, like a gt car or
something you know, yeah, thosewould be super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
The only thing that I would be a little bit leery
about is like it's honestly sodifferent that you'd have to
have some serious like you'dhave to put yourself at your
expectation level super low tobe, able to be like, because
otherwise you're going todisappoint yourself right away
exactly yeah yeah, I think sotoo.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Speedboat or dragster .

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Dragster.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
Yeah, are you going top fuel?
Are you going funny car?
No, I'm like a street car guy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Oh my God, I want to throw up my chair.
Oh golly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
You got a test tomorrow.
Calm down.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Dude, I know that's just no risk, but I just had a
heart attack, but anyway, I wantlike a street drag car for sure
, like Cletus.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Oh my God, he's such a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Have you watched?
This yeah, you've watched ityeah, no, I've seen a bunch of
different Cletus ones.
I am the biggest nerd forCletus McFarlane.
I know every crew member.
I know every car by nameBullitt.
I know every car by name bullet, freaking like I know
everything about it, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
The thing I like best about him is he's just always
outside the box thinker, likecoming up with all kinds of cool
shit.
Oh yeah, he's just real too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
When you're watching at three in the morning and at
night you're like that's so cool, the hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
I got to get up at seven, but I'm still going to
finish this Exactly.
You ask him the last question.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Chips and guacamole or fries and ketchup.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Chips and guac dude.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
He's from southern Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
You can't ask a kid like that.
Oh dude, come on.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
We got the best out here, best in the business.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
But if you had to eat fries, would it be with ranch
or with ketchup?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Depends if I'm feeling froggy enough for ranch.
You know, ranch is like a reachEverybody has ketchup but not
everybody has like a good ranch.
True.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Yeah, that's true, because there's a lot of ranches
that are dog shit yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Yeah, it just sucks.
It's like dude I know freakingMelissa in the back spitting it
when she was mixing it up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
It totally sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Ketchup is safe.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I'm going to give you a quarter every time you make
me laugh.
You'll be rich, I'm talkingabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
I'm not going to ask you about SnakeTatGirl.
We're just going to end theshow.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Alright, dude, it was really good talking with you.
Let's do a little sign-off belland then we'll thank our
sponsors.
Yeah, hey, actually, ethan, youthank Maxis on the way out.
I can do that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, it was really good talking to you.
I'm super glad that I got tohave you on and ask a bunch of
super cool questions.

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
I think we definitely had a really good episode.
So thank you so much forjoining and helping me out with
the pictures and everything.
I hope everybody enjoyed all ofour questions.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I think you did a really good job prepping for
this one, Bella.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Yeah, I had a really fun time.
It was super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
She did a lot of research.
Dude, she knows more about youthan I do.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
Big stop.
She would send me notes and I'mlike dude, like I didn't even
know that, like what are youdoing?

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
uh, but for real, thanks for spending 90 minutes
with us when you have such abusy schedule and I know you
gotta hit the sack and you'regonna have fun tests tomorrow
too.
So, um, where's the next raceor when's the next time people
can see you in person?

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
uh, the baja, 1000, 1000.
That's our next race man, sothe big dog.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Big dog going up next Go get her done.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Oh yeah, we're going to try.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yep, sounds good, man , and we'll see you down there.
We'll have your mom doing allthe snacks.
Your dad's going to be changingtires Bella's going to be doing
all the content.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
It's going, dude.
Yeah, well, good luck to youall.
Right, let's thank somesponsors.
Go ahead, ethan first.
Oh, just want to thank max'stires, my girl rosie, out there
at max's tires hooking it up,chris as well.
They do the best.
I want to thank honda hrc.
I want to thank the dirt lifeshow, star stream uh.
I want to thank baja designs uh, fk rod and sparco mpi steering
wheels uh, kmc wheels uh, fluidlogic, that's for.
I want to thank Baja Designs,fk Rod Ends, sparko MPI Charing
Wheels, kmc Wheels, fluid Logicthat's for sure.

(01:31:35):
They're a huge, huge part of us, so we can't do it without
Fluid Logic.
Pro Eagle Jackson.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a lotmore.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
But everybody who's on the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah, everybody, we saw Gatlin join here earlier too
, so yeah, man I appreciate youcoming on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
We'll catch you down there in mexico.
Thank you so much.
Thank you dude all right later,guys.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Bye, all right.
So let's wind down the showreal quick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Um, you want to thank uh evolution power sports and
then we'll finish it off and yes, I'd love to thank evolution
power sports for keeping uspowered up and helping us out
with this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
We greatly appreciate it yeah, and, like ethan said,
thank you to everybody at max'stires, thanks to guys over at
shock therapy, everybody atvision canopies and uh over
excuse me, everybody over atzollinger racing products.
We appreciate it, uh, and thankyou for everybody for uh
putting so much uh faith instarstream too.
You guys have really helped uschange the world of off-road,

(01:32:30):
and it's just getting started.
It's so cool to be able towatch every single person that
is has the systems on their carsand be able to ride along with
everybody.
It's just it's it's makingoff-road so much more visible,
so we really appreciateeverybody for supporting yeah, I
.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
I definitely want to say thank you to you guys,
because we couldn't do itwithout you.
So, for all the comments andthe sharing and the likes and
the support, I definitelyappreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Good job Belle.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Yeah, that was a wrap on episode 10.
Let me know what I can dobetter to make it more
interesting and more fun for youguys.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
See you guys next time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Deuces.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Life Show.
See you next time.

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