Jeremy McGrath - In Depth - Bella's Corner - The Dirt Life

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
I'm Bella Richard, your host.
This is my co-host, george.
Hi guys, we are filming episode8 of Bella's Corner, so pretty
excited.
Right now we're in twodifferent states so we kind of
pulled some strings, made thingswork, but I think we got
everything figured out andhopefully we can thank some

(00:33):
sponsors and get rolling intowho we're going to interview.
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
You want me to break the ice a little bit.
I got some funny things to talkabout For sure.
I'd love to.
So first of all, you got anawesome show, but I'm in a van
and I just spent 81 on tamalesto bring them to all of our
friends, and it smells fantasticthat's lucky so uh, okay.

(00:59):
So, uh, since we're doing thisremotely, do you want to let
everybody know who's going to beon the show today, and then we
can start letting people in?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, for sure.
So we're going to get the balldropping with Chase Carr, my
good friend Jeremy McGrath, thorHerbst from Herbst Motorsports
and Cruz Bruchard.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
So I had a couple people talking to me and they
were like, oh my god, bella gotthe king on.
How'd she do it?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
and I was like, well, bella's starting to be a little
media mogul over here yeah,well, thank god he's my good
friend, but I definitely prettyexcited for this one.
I think we got some goodconversations with everybody, so
hopefully we can just get totalking okay, sounds good.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
So, all right, why don't you thank the sponsors
that we have in common, and thenI'll thank ours and we'll get
going?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
yeah, for sure I'd love to thank evolution power
sports um kmc wheels and motulum, so all great partners.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
They've been on board pretty much since day one, so
it's really cool to haveeverybody on board.
Uh, the guys over at evolutionpower sports uh, I got their
T-shirt on Great logo and alsomaking tons of power.
If you guys are getting readyfor summer, you guys can also
talk to them about getting sometuning for your jet skis.
They've been doing a lot of jetski stuff, so that's super,

(02:18):
super cool.
Kind of a little bit off theoff-road topic, but it's still
rad.
Thanks to the guys over atMaxxis Tires you can see the
Maxxis hat in the background.
Thank you very much to the guysover at Shock Therapy.
You can always use the codeDIRTLIFE at shocktherapycom and
save yourself some money on anyof those parts.
They save you a good discounttoo.
Thanks to the guys at JL Audio,always keeping us rocking.

(02:41):
Thank you very much to the guysat zolander racing products.
You can always get, uh,something from them as well to
match up with all the shocktherapy products that you have.
So, uh, you can use the code atthe dirt life at zolander
racing productscom.
all right, bell, who's our firstguest?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
our first guest is chase car, so let me give him
his rad introduction.
Um, chase car is 16 years old,from Canyon Lake, california,
competing in landing podiumspots in big races like the Red
Bull, scramble, mid-america andBITD.
He continues to add to hishardware collection.
What's up, chase?

Speaker 5 (03:17):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm good.
How are you?

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Good, I'm at the dirt bike track at the moment.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
No really yeah, Dude, I'm at the dirt bike track at
the moment.
No, really yeah, Dude, I'mjealous.
Look what I got to do.
I got to do some training today.
Check that bad boy out.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I'm trying to keep myself busy this offseason dude.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
How is it?
Are you guys riding right now,or are you just out there
cheering on your homies?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
No, I got here at 510-ish and I'm going to hop on
here really fast and then gothrow down a couple motos.
You know, get arm pump in thefirst three laps, but it's fine.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
What bike are you riding right now?

Speaker 5 (03:53):
It's a YZ250F 2023.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Oh damn, really, How's that?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's fun.
Actually, I haven't had anyproblems with it.
Knock on wood.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
That sounds good.
I love the last YZ250F.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I had.
I haven't had any problems withit.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Knock on wood, Dude.
That sounds good.
I love it.
Last YZ250F I had was 2008,.
I think.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, I was a little skeptical about going to them
because I've been a KTM boygrowing up like forever, but no,
it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Dude D Smoke's calling you out.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, I know.
I know, I had a bike for him,but he didn't show up.
Oh no, I had a bike for him,but he didn't show up.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I think he's a scared one Dude.
Yeah, that's pretty weak.
You can't call somebody out ifyou're a no-show.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
I know that kind of rolls into one of my questions.
For sure I know you have a pastin two wheels and stuff, but
kind of doing that transitionfrom two wheels to four wheels
and then back to two wheelsagain getting on the track, how
has that been?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah, no, I mean, I've grown up racing a lot of
things, so coming from moto, Imean honestly it really helps a
lot when I got behind the wheel.
Between that and like goingthrough go karts and jet skis,
they're all you know relativelynot not the same, but they're
all.
They're all close in their ways.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
So, no, definitely coming from moto helped me out a
lot with my line choices andlike gauging jumps and you know
everything that that gets thrownyour way and, uh, in a short
course race, it definitely helpsout a lot, even though, like
because you kind of dabble inmoto too, riding pit bikes and
stuff, you can probably bothagree with what the comment I'm
going to say and that's like thehand-eye coordination that dirt

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bike guys have and off-roadguys have.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like a lot of people don't have that and it seems
like it's natural for chase yeah, for sure, being able to take
from something like a two-wheeland four-wheel being so
different, but applying them toeach other is like crazy deal
that not a lot of people can do,so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, no, definitely I, uh, I enjoy uh, not just
racing razors.
Obviously, that's what I wantto do when I grow up.
But expanding my horizon is uhwhat I've been focusing on, and
uh see where it takes me, Iguess.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah for sure, even kind of spanning your horizon
with.
You know the different seriesyou've been racing.
I know you did the Red BullScramble last year too, but kind
of give us a rundown of how itwent this year.
I know it was pretty successful.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, no, unfortunately last year I wasn't
of age to do it, so we went outthere with a car to race but
fortunately couldn't do it.
No, this year was a uh, it was alot of fun.
It was definitely a, acurveball in the opposite
direction of what I was thinking.
To be honest, I I didn't wantto do it.
I thought I was going to be theunderdog showing up with a car
that was almost a thousandpounds heavier than what I was

(06:35):
racing against.
And you know, I've I've grownup watching corbin race my whole
life and all these other peoplethat were there.
They're definitely no one toslouch on.
But no, it was uh, it was areally fun time.
It was a great event, andespecially being out there on
like vacation, getting to ridemy dirt bike and then going to
race through the dunes.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
It was uh, it was a lot of fun yeah, chase, do you
ever get like when you're outthere racing?
Well, actually, the red bullscramble is a perfect event, a
perfect example.
Like your moto background, youcan see things that a lot of
dudes can't right like.
If there's a guy that's likechanging lines and like he's a
four-wheel guy, right like, youcan be like oh, I know something

(07:13):
that he doesn't you could cutunder or like square up or like
do something.
Could you ever notice thatstuff?

Speaker 5 (07:18):
oh, yeah, for sure.
You know, at the red bullscramble we had no practice so
we were going out there blindand it was.
You know.
The one person I didn't want toget put up against was Corbin
in the heat race because, I'mgoing to be honest, I was a
little nervous.
I thought he was going to waxme.
But you know, that motobackground honestly helped me a
lot out there.
I got out to man.

(07:39):
I don't remember if I hole shotor not.
I don't think I did.
I shot and run.
I don't think I did.
I was behind corbin, I followedhim for the first lap and I
slowly started figuring outlines that were like a lot
faster, which, honestly, Ishouldn't have used them,
because I mean that let corbinin on some, uh, some fast lines,
but no, uh, motos definitelyhelped me out a lot with that.
Yeah, yeah, you got it.
You can't give away yoursecrets, bro.

(07:59):
I know I gave him way too fastand it bit me in the butt.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
That's kind of what we talked about last episode.
What was that, George?

Speaker 4 (08:07):
It's all about timing .

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, that's true.
No, we got to hear Corbin'sperspective from the race
compared to your perspective.
So being able to put both ofthose together and kind of just
getting a wide you know of howthe race went was super cool,
especially because I couldn't bethere to watch it.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
But you know it was.
It was super cool, especiallybecause I couldn't be there to
watch it.
But you know it was.
Uh, it was a lot of fun.
You know I, like I said, I'vegrown up watching Corbin and
Cody race my whole life and, uh,you know, I've never exactly
been in the same class or thesame level as them, so being
able to race against him wasobviously pretty cool.
But you know, like I said, Ishowed up to uh a big event with

(08:42):
a car that I honestly didn'tthink that I was going to be
able to do well in, and you knowthere's a lot of people that
doubted me.
But I mean, I listened to mydad and my grandpa and they said
you might have a chance atwinning.
So I went out there and drovethat thing as hard as I could,
but you know also, I had a lotof faith.
Grandpa kind of forced me to doit, but I'm glad I did.

(09:02):
You know it was an awesomeevent.
But I mean, even the thought inthe back of my head of being
like the first race was King ofthe Hammers.
We had a little malfunctionthat took us out early in the
race, did a pretty good prep onit and went straight to the Mint
.
I mean, we didn't have anyexpectations, we just wanted to
get a good finish this year andending up to pull off a fourth
overall in the Mint 400 was apretty good pat on the back.

(09:26):
And then we came into the RedBull race.
Honestly, no prep on it at all.
I threw an air filter andcleaned out the clutches and
threw on a belt and she handledfor sure.
But no, I'm not going to letCormie get away with this one.
He's getting it next time.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Being the circumstance that you're right,
that car is a lot heavier andyou know you didn't really.
You went out there not knowingquite what to expect yet, so
that's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, no, exactly.
I mean that car is no slouch.
It blew my expectations, keithand my dad and everyone that was
involved with that build, andeven the new build it's yeah,
honestly they blew my mind.
The new polaris pro r platformsare what I think are unbeatable
.
I mean it's proven, we've, uh,we've, we've overall.
I mean utvs have overalledsilver state this year.

(10:16):
I mean look at mitch guthrie inthis polaris pro r last year he
, uh, second place overall,almost overalled it yeah, for
sure, the builds are gettingmore crazy and crazy as we get
older.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, it's pretty wild to see, but chase is being
kind of humble, though too bella, like, because it takes a lot
to be able to drive a car.
That's like, has anybody evertold you guys bringing the right
tool for the job like chasekind of like he had a dull knife
, so to speak, right like hedidn't have a sharp knife to
make the cut like, but he stillmanaged it and quote unquote

(10:48):
gets the job done right likethat tells a lot about the
driving skill and the abilityfor him to be able to adapt like
there's very few people thatcan do that.
And chase is well, he's got alot of experience, but doing all
the things that he does dirtbike racing and racing these
different cars and stuff giveshim that talent.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, it's kind of just testing what you can do and
pushing yourself to the limits.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, exactly.
I mean sometimes you got tostep out of your comfort zone
and go do stuff that youhonestly can't think.
That I mean you're going to win.
But I'm glad I went out there.
I met some really cool people.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
And I mean, hopefully one day we can get that Red
Bull deal.
Yeah, does it ever change yourattitude?
Like you're like, oh crap, likeI don't know I'm bringing a
desert car to a short courserace or whatever, and you're
like there's no way, like, or doyou just be like you know what,
I don't even care, I'm gonna goout there and kill it no, I
mean, I was definitely bummedout, I'm.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
we decided, uh, at about 2 pm on Thursday that we
were going to do it because,honestly, I just didn't want to
do it at all.
Yeah, but no, I'm very gladthat I went out there and did it
.
Like I said, those pro hoursare no slouch.
They are proven to be the bestso far.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, for sure.
Even just building it and theway you guys have made a strong
car and, you know, being able togo out there and test it for
glenn helen, that was super coolto see.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
But yeah, no doubt you got a new short course car
yeah, so we uh we actually justfinished up a brand new pro r
for uh short course.
It's legal for every series, soshe's a little on the heavier
side, but no, that thing is aabsolute blast to drive.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah, I bet I want to see it.
I posted.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
I posted a couple of pictures.
We're going to do some morestuff to it and I'll.
I'll post some more up closepictures of it or I'll send them
to you guys, but no.
Keith and my dad it literallyjust popped up on my screen.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, that it's pretty cool bro, that they
did some uh aggressive yeah,that thing's a work of art.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
I'm very, uh, very excited to be behind the wheel
of that and the opportunity torace that is uh unbelievable
yeah, I'll be like, I'll be likeevery fanboy.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
How fast does it go?

Speaker 5 (13:07):
So I mean it's hard to tell.
I have a Micron in it butrunning different sized tires it
throws off the GPS speed alittle bit.
So at Glen Helen it claims thatI was hitting near 90s.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Dang dude.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
That was after the finish line, which was a little
scary.
I uh, you know the concretewall after turn one of the
finish line at glenhellen.
Yeah, I gave that thing alittle love tap.
I came in a little too long itwas.
It was almost bad one, but Igot out of it somehow dude,
you're like a f1 driver justkissing the wall.

(13:43):
Well, after the finish line jumpI tried to cut to the inside
really hard but I almost wentfor a bad ride.
So I turned out of it and thewall was the next thing on the
list to hit.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Dude, that's crazy.
You got to hit a wall here andthere.
I don't want to hit a wall.
I got a little too muchexperience with hitting walls,
walls I almost ripped off thesame tire you do don't do that
my dad probably would havekilled me if I did brand new car

(14:18):
plus.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
If you hit that wall, you're going in that ditch oh
yeah, no, it's uh grumpy grampswould have killed you, that's
for sure.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I was watching the GoPro footage back last night.
My grandpa the only thing hesaid to me before the race was
don't scratch it.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Oh no.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I didn't scratch it.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I do want to know one thing what do you
got going on in the future foryou?
What is your next big races?

Speaker 5 (14:51):
And kind of just, what's your plan?
So, uh, right now we aregetting the desert car, we've
fully stripped it down, it'sgetting, uh, it's getting a very
good prep.
So, uh, the plan is to bring itback out in april to, uh, vegas
torino, sorry and uh, I mean,we'll see where we can stack up
there.
Like I said, our goal this yearwith a brand new car is just to
go out there and get arespectable finish and obviously
finish the race first.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
No, that's our plan right now, and I'm currently
trying to talk my dad intotaking me all the way down to
Crandon.
I want it to be in the books,but, man, it's a far drive.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, that definitely works.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
I would love to see you out there, dude.
That is such an amazing event.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah, I mean I really want to go out there but I've
really never raced against anyof those guys and from what I've
heard it's it takes a lot toget used to to go out there and
race something like that, likesetup wise, and you you know,
obviously clutching, suspension,everything different clutching,
you're gonna need bigger tiresfor more top speed and you're

(15:49):
just gonna have to be full woodthe whole time.
That's what I've heard.
I guess, uh and the utbs theydon't let off around that big
old turn down the hill.
No, dude, you don't let offanywhere.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Those tracks are fast dude, like you're just wooded
the whole time you'd have funthough, all right, all right,
but we got to get Jeremy on.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Well, it was good talking toyou, Chase.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Thank you, thank you guys, for having me.
I really appreciate it forcoming on.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I really appreciate it.
Keep crushing it, yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Have a good rest of your day,guys.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
We want Jeremy on when we do the intro.
I'm going to invite him realquick.
Chase is going to go hit somelaps right now.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Oh yeah, that's true, we're going to have Jeremy
McGrath come.
What's up?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
What's up, you guys, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (16:39):
I'm good.
How are you Doing?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
good Cruising along Real quick.
I want to try to try to postscreen time, hey, uh.
So, jeremy, I first wanted tosay, um, obviously, thank you
very much for, you know, lettingthe kids handle all this stuff.
It's super cool that they'redoing it.
So let's get, uh, bella, achance to give you a proper
intro.
Bud, bud.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, no worries, I'm excited to chat with you guys.
It's going to be cool.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Me too.
So Jeremy McGrath is fromEncinitas.
Jeremy is a seven-time AMASupercross champion with an
impressive record 72 PremierClass wins, the King of
Supercross Pro 2 Off-RoadChampion in Lucas Oil Series and
multiple X-Game medalist.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Jeremy McGrath.
That was proper Bella in LucasOil Series and multiple X-Game
medalists.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Jeremy, that was proper Bella.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I like it.
I did my research on you, soNice work, nice work.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Bella, did you know that Jeremy had a song written
for him too?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Are you serious.
That is funny.
So here's the story behind that.
Years ago I used to race.
When I was racing amateurmotocross, there was a guy named
jason edwards from texas and hewas a friend of ours and he was
a rapper.
Like he was this kid that likedto rap and he was actually a
pretty awesome rider.
Um, he was like intermediatewhen we were a classclass riders

(18:02):
.
Then he made a rap when I firstsigned with Factory Honda.
I think it was 1993.
For me.
It's kind of weird to listen tothat stuff, because you're like,
this is a rap song about mewhich is pretty funny, as funny

(18:23):
as it is.
I recently listened to it againand I showed rowan and uh, they
were just cracking up.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
So oh, could you imagine having someone write a
song about you?

Speaker 4 (18:34):
that's insane I'm trying to find it.
Did you find it on youtube?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
uh, you know what I think?
I saw it YouTube, but it was inan old video.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh, it was Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think it was in man , I don't know.
I don't know what it was, Ican't even recall I think I was.
What was I?
Messing around on YouTubelooking at some old races, you
know, and then, boom, I stumbledacross it.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
So anyway, yeah, it was a good song too.
What's your guys' questions,Belle.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh, I got a lot, a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Let's get into it.
But I kind of want to get intoeverything because I know you're
not just the king of Supercross, you are a dad, you're a mentor
, you know you're doing a bunchof other things in the industry.
But kind of after retiring andending your Supercross career
and closing that chapter, whathave you accomplished so far,

(19:37):
what have you been working onand what are you most excited to
show us?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, I mean it's so funny to say, but my motocross
and supercross career was wasfairly long right for for for
the lifespan of really amotocross guy.
Yeah, most all the kids arepretty young when they start and
they retire when they're.
If they can get to retirement,they still retire at a pretty
young age.
Um, I ended up, I don't know.

(20:04):
You know I didn't start racinguntil I was 14.
So I think maybe it just gaveme a little bit longer window to
race and so I retired when Iwas like 31 or 32 years old,
which you know.
Some of the guys that I lookedup to, like Ricky Johnson and
Johnny O'Mara and Ron Lachineand all these guys from the era

(20:26):
before me, they all kind ofretired like at 26, 27,
sometimes 28, but never 30.
Like 30 was like unheard of.
So I feel fortunate that I gotto race as long as I did and
stayed healthy as long as I did.
I mean that was a prettydangerous sport.
I mean, looking back on it now,that was pretty dangerous sport

(20:47):
.
I mean, looking back on it now,it's pretty darn amazing that I
got through all those raceswith I would.
I'm going to say, I'm going togo ahead and say at minimal
injuries, you know like,compared to my friends that I
raced with, the group of guysthat I raced with, you know they
, uh man, they, they seem to behurt all the time.
So I was lucky I got to.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Man, they seem to be hurt all the time, so I was
lucky.
I stayed on my bike quite a lot,which was nice.
But since then I don't knowno-transcript the like cool,
really like the life thatmotocross and supercross, the

(21:21):
lifestyle that it it allowed meto have.
And so I was lucky.
You know, again, I was prettylucky in the way that, um, I
kind of started being a littlebit of an ambassador for honda
at the time and then, uh, therereally wasn't sort of an
ambassador position at that time.
I was kind of like creating thisposition just to stay involved

(21:41):
and with my connection throughmonster and then my, you know my
, when I was an amateur I was ateam green rider and so for the
last seven years I've beenKawasaki brand brand ambassador
and what that means is basicallyjust doing different events, uh
, different photo shoots, doingsome different testing.

(22:03):
You know this is with bikeswith, with side by sides with uh
sort of everything uh involvedwith kawasaki and um, I host
that science of supercross showthat uh has been fairly
successful over the last five,six, six years during the
program for Supercross.
And then I'm just raising mygirls, rowan and Bergen, who you

(22:29):
know very well, obviously, andjust trying to stay involved in
this sport.
I just love it so much.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
That's super cool.
What's up, chris?
What up Jeremy?
That hat's looking sharp, son,oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
You know, it.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
This is Chris Meyer from Max's Tires.
Chris wanted to just jump onand say hi to Jeremy.
They haven't seen each other'sfaces in a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I know I to have you on.
That's super cool.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I know I fancy having you on Chris.
It's cool.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it.
I was liking what I waslistening to Hold on Did you see
the photos from me and Adam.
Dude.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
They are.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Six.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
So we did a photo shoot.
We did a Maxis photo shoot withAdam the other day.
We shot my truck and I havethese like 37-inch cool Maxis
tires on there.
What are they?
Mts maybe.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Maxis MTs.
Yeah, you got MTs on the truck.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And then on my van we have a.
What is that one?
It's the ATS.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
It's the all-terrain sport, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Oh yeah, there we go, you're dialed and they wait
until we.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
Yeah, there it is, dude, that's one of the best
dually builds I think I've everseen.
It's so sad.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I have to say thank you to Icon for that one.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Hey, did you do anything with the power plan or
no?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
No, I mean, you don't have to.
That thing can pull a housedown.
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (24:09):
Dude, he towed like 72 side-by-sides to Johnson
Valley with that thing.
He was ripping all over thevalley in that truck.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's my a princess.
Yeah, it's not a mall crawler,it's not a mall crawler?

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah, that's no mall crawler.
That's right, exactly, dude, weshould.
Should we give something awayon this broadcast?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm thinking Jeremy, do you like giving things away?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
I love what are we giving away?
Chris, do you have any podiumhats left over there?
We could do like you could signand we could send out.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Hold on.
No, I have some.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Yeah, yep, wait a minute, I have those.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Oh, that was prime.
And ready, george is stacked up.
Look at, that was prime andready.
Those were stacked up.
Look at that, that bad boy out.
Listen.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
So we didn't plan that at all.
Jeremy, obviously, yeah,obviously.
So Jeremy signed this Max'spodium hat, which is limited
edition.
People can't get these unlessthey're a Max's athlete or
ambassador.
But Jeremy signed this what wasalmost a year ago, I think, at
the Maxis Ride Day at Paris.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, I mean, you've had that for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I have plenty.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
If we want to give away more than one.
I got plenty.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Alright, so what do you think we should do to give
this thing away?
Bella, do you just want to picka person in the comments, or
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think someone who comes up with the coolest
question for Jeremy should get aroom for it.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Okay, so what should we do?
Give it like five minutes?
Whoever comes up with thecoolest question in the next
five minutes?
Yep, all right, I like that.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Oh, that's a pretty good start.
Right there Will there be a newSteel Roots, jeremy, I saw that
.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Did you see our April Fool's post that we put on, and
it was instead of Steel Rootsit was called Gray Roots,
meaning like gray hair, grayroots.
That's awesome.
People were like oh, I'll tellyou right now, ronnie Renner, my
buddy, who's another Maxis guy,yeah, he's like dude, we're

(26:22):
doing it, we gotta do it, and uh, so, yeah, I mean, you never
know, you never know what canhappen.
We can still, we can stillthrow a couple cross ups.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
You know, dude, that was that's it.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Oh listen, still still a good look chris, listen
to this comment real quick andtell me if you remember this.
And jeremy, you too.
Heavy equipment savage posted,said jeremy in 1994, honda cr
poster, with you standing infront of a blue plate number one
cr 250.
Uh, where you're standing infront of a bulldozer with a

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giant, a giant bulldozer, yeah Idon't remember that picture.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
How fun was that a badass photo shoot uh it, I just
remember it because my hair wasso funny in that photo, like
like the sides were shaved andit was like whipped back with
this funny wave.
It was hilarious.
It might be in my hallway here.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I don't really know, but um uh I do remember that
it's really really pretty cool.
It's like a D9 or something.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
There's a bunch of cool questions coming in.
Let's see here.
So how many Z50s have you had?
Is that?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
a good question.
The answer is only two.
I've had two that I bought newin 94 or 5, and I still have
them.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They still run like a champ.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Those things are so reliable, right.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh, man Was the first knack-knack on accident.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Oh no, all right, here's the story on the first
knack-knack.
You guys all know that I camefrom a BMX background and one of
my really good buddies his nameis Eric Carter, he was like a
top pro BMXer Like.
He was like unbelievable Um,but he really loved dirt bikes.
So we were riding dirt bikesand the knack knacks really a

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BMX trick.
And uh, they have another trickthat we all know is called the
can can right.
It's opposite of knack knack.
So knack-knack's foot off theback, can-can is foot through
the front.
So I'm at my Supercross track atmy parents' house off the
freeway over there in Menifeeand we just thought like, hey,

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let's try to figure out how todo a knack-knack on a dirt bike.
And if you've seen, seen likereally old pictures of the knack
knack, it was kind of like thebike was straight and then it
would.
I would just kind of lean itover and stick my foot out the
back and then over the years theway it evolved is you could go
up off the jump and whip thebike and let the the rear end

(28:55):
come around and then you couldreally extend the knack knack.
And now obviously in today'sversions there's a lot, you know
.
There's like big upside downwhips, not whip, knack knacks,
flip knacks, there's all kindsof stuff.
But the first knack knack wasdefinitely not a trick.
I I learned it started messingaround with it at the end of 93

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and then 94, uh, orlando, whichis january, first round of
supercross.
It's the first time I ever didit live in front of fans and I
did it in practice.
And, uh, the team manager wasall freaked out because he
thought I was falling off thebike.
So he ran back.
He's like you gotta stop, youcan't be doing that out here.
So he was really, he was reallyfreaked out and uh, so I didn't

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do it, I, I didn't do it, Ididn't end up.
I didn't end up having orneeding to do it because orlando
I finished fourth and thefollowing week in houston I
finished fifth and then anaheimI won, uh, and then I still was
so flabbergasted that I wonanaheim that I really didn't do
the knack knack there either.
But um, soon after is when Istarted doing it like on the, on

(30:01):
either the final lap or thelast jump of the race or
whatever.
So, um, that's kind of the yearthat it actually officially
came out in racing.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Bella, can you imagine it, though, because,
like that was never done before,so it was like could you
imagine how scary that would befor like a manager or like a
team owner, like?
Because it's like holy crap,what is this dude even doing?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
it wasn't talked about, it wasn't planned,
nothing.
It was just straight to.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm gonna try it and see how people react yeah, I, I
knew I had it from practicing itat home, but I didn't tell
anyone about it and I was justkind of like, ah, and then just
for fun, I did it and everyonefreaked out like because no
one's cameras were ready, it wasjust in practice, last lap of
practice or something, and soreally it's, really there might

(30:46):
be one photo, like Davey Coombsmight have one photo of this
thing from Racer X, justrandomly in the stands and they
had the camera on me and I didit and they got it, but really
there's not much proof of thevery first mac mac on track, so
it's pretty funny dang.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
We just got the whole behind the scenes and that's
there's your lesson in.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Uh, sometimes you got to uh just plan to apologize
later, yeah exactly, had I had Itold, had I told dave arnold I
was gonna be like jumping offthe back of my bike, he would
have been like, absolutely,you're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
What do they say?
Ask for forgiveness, not forthe future.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
Good point Chris Good point.
Yeah that's brilliant Smart.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
We had a ton of questions already coming in.
I'm just going to pick a coupleof them right off the bat.
Chris, it sounds like we'reprobably going to have to give
away a few, a few extra hats,but uh again.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Yeah, we will keep the king's supply all right,
sounds good, so colton hearstasked.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
So, jeremy, who do you consider to be one of your
favorite rivals, as in rivalryyou enjoyed and helped push you
to be better in your career, andthen, adversely, do you have a
one that wasn't your favorite?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
uh, well, it's well documented that emig was not my
favorite, um, but he was almost.
He was also like my closestcompetitor, right.
So, um, you know, I I don't alot of competitors kind of go by
like, oh, like, like, likericky johnson, who I really up
to was the era before me, and hewas always like mad at his
competitors, you know, and that,right there, for me it just

(32:24):
doesn't work.
I'm friends with everyone.
I like being friends with mycompetitors.
Obviously, it's easier for meto be friends with them when I'm
beating them, so that's alittle easier.
It's always the case, yeah, butat the same time, you know, I
had a lot of friends on thetrack and I think when you're
trying to win championships andwin gather points and it's a

(32:46):
long series I think you justreally can't.
You got to think about how manyenemies you make along the way,
because every week you're goingto come across a new enemy.
You know these are long seriesand if you start messing with
people all the time, I foundthat it was a lot harder to you
know, sort of either let that goor to quiet the conversation

(33:07):
down, quiet the situation down.
And again, I kind of seem tohave a beef for a lot of years
and we were running each other alot.
You know he was fast, so it wasalways seemed like we were
together.
He was a good starter.
But you know, I don't know, Ijust felt like he was fast, so
it was always seemed like wewere together.
He was a good starter, um, butuh, you know, I don't know, I
just felt like he was kind ofdangerous on the track back then

(33:28):
.
But anyways, we're, that's allgrown up, he's fine now.
It's like not a problem now.
It's just like what we'reracing.
It was a little weird and uh,have you seen?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
but I think most of the friends on the track and I
think that was that's prettyimportant have you seen some of
the forums lately?
Because that question kind ofthat statement kind of goes to
what's happening right now inmotocross, like I don't want to
get in on it too hard, but likejason anderson's, like you want
to portray me as the villain,I'll be the villain.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Like I'm good, let's go yeah, yeah, I, I have been
following that a little bit.
Uh, you know, when you'realways on the the, the short end
of the stick when it comes tothat stuff, you're always going
to seem to be a little more madthan the guy that actually made
the crash happen or made thepass or whatever.
I was listening to JamesStewart like post earlier today

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and I really don't see anythingwrong with that pass.
Yeah, it was aggressive.
I mean, we know which passesare bad.
Right, they're the ones thattake the front wheel out, t-bone
a guy do whatever, but theywere body to body and what
always happens in this situationis the guy on top can't put his
foot out because the other guyis there.

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So, as much as it looked like atakeout, I mean he just filled
the space and then he couldn'tput his foot out, so he went
down.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
It was interesting that he could have done it.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, I think if you watch Jason's line, he didn't
move up into Hunter's line.
He filled the space and did areally nice job of staying low.
But Hunter it looked like to mehe just went slightly wide and
then he couldn't put his footout.
So you know the circumstancedidn't work out great for Hunter
.
I understand all that.
But you know the Lawrence's arekind of the golden child right

(35:05):
now of the sport.
So I didn't see a black flagfly out.
If Anderson would have done, ifsomeone else would have done
that, you know, when he wasgetting lapped, I'm sure the
black flag would have come out.
So I wasn't really stoked aboutthe preference when it comes to
that.
They really frown onretaliation, um, the takeout's
one thing, but then when youretaliate that's, that's like

(35:28):
premeditated.
So they really frown on thatstuff but nothing really happens
.
So I don't know, they're kindof sending mixed messages a
little bit about it, um, but I'ma fan of Anderson's style.
I like Hunter too, but I likeAnderson.
I like how aggressive he is.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
I like the way he rides.
He's fun to watch ride.
He's different than everyoneelse.
He's just the only guy to watchride.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
I honestly think that his stuff is much more in
control and, like say, barsha'sstuff looks a lot more
deliberate to me.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
So you know, that's just JA's been playing that game
for yeah, I mean, it's not likehe didn't like change course.
No, no, no, that's how he'sridden, you know, right on that.
And he seems to be pretty goodalways riding that razor edge
right on the.
And he seems to be pretty goodalways at riding that razor edge

(36:23):
right on the line of being, butkeeping it just clean enough.
You know?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, I mean, if you know, jason, he's not a villain,
he's a cool guy, he's afriendly dude.
But you know, he puts on hishelmet, he wants to win and he
wants to do whatever it takes.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
And you've got to appreciate that set of skills
you know?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, he definitely drives, Jeremy.
We have a question fromHaleyRay22.
What was the favorite phase ofyour career to date?
Oh, man.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh gosh, man, I mean there was, it's fun.
You know, my early days ofgetting a factory ride were
absolutely so fun because youjust never imagine that stuff's
ever going to happen to you.
And then, you know, years ofwinning on Honda was really good
.
And then, you know, it was awild time when I left Honda I
went to Suzuki.

(37:06):
I still don't quite understandwhy Honda decided that they were
going to make an all-brand-newbike when I won 14 out of 15
Supercrosses that year.
They probably should have putthat on hold.
Then I could have stayed atHonda for a lot more years.
But you know, as we know, thestory is what it is.
I left honda 96, um, had areally fun year on 97 on suzuki.

(37:26):
I didn't really win a lot, Iwon a couple races but it was
absolutely a blast.
And then, uh, you know, in 96everyone was kind of, you know,
they were kind of tired of mewinning.
And so, 97, I became theunderdog right.
So when I won, people were justlike you know, they were super
pumped.
And then, uh, I gained allthose fans back again in 98

(37:48):
because I was the underdog,going to yamaha again.
And uh, then I started winningagain.
So, uh, you know it's, it's, itwas a roller coaster, but, um, I
, I think you know, look, it's avery cool sport, it's something
I'm so passionate about, andjust to be able to be at the
elite part of the sport for somany years is, uh, I mean, it's

(38:10):
like I said, it's something Inever, ever imagined.
So I just tried to never takeit for granted and it's, it's,
uh, you know, one of thosethings I just, I still love it
today just as much as I ever did.
I wish I was a lot younger, Icould still be racing, which
would be amazing, but uh, um,you know, I just still love dirt
bikes.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
So that's what it's about yeah, for sure, all right,
bell, I'm gonna let you getback to your questions, uh, but
we're gonna give away three hats, so I'm just gonna uh, 12, 12.
So uh, jeremy, do you remembernearly lapping the field at
Charlotte Motor Speedway in theearly 90s?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Oh man, I don't remember exactly lapping the
field or like getting close.
I probably got into the top tena few times, but man, I'm just
not, I don't remember exactly.
Like I don't remember that, Imean it probably happened more
than once, maybe several times.
I I remember even watchingcarmichael when I was done
retired, you know he would getup into the top 10 of the field

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and lap those guys too.
So I mean there was some nightswhen, when I was pretty far
ahead.
So I I believe it, I just don'tremember it.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
You know what I remember.
Like this I've met.
I just had it just popped in myhead and it had been like 96,
maybe in atlanta, and you got abad start which you like never
got.
Yeah, and you were.
You were just blitzing throughthe pack, I mean, and and uh,

(39:38):
there was a finish line, lander,hard right, and mike craig was
in it and he drilled him andtook his, took his pipe right
off yeah his bike.
That was a wild.
That's such a cool race okay.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
So fun fact, fun fact behind that, I think, chris,
that was the heat race.
Maybe it was in the final I won, but yes, in the heat race I
slammed right into him becausehe was there and I was on the
inside the yeah, and I waslaughing about this with my
friend the other day.
You know that was the firsttime that night and and this is

(40:15):
how you know that because thatnight was I was wearing the
first helmet cam that we everhad in the sport, so they had.
I had this mohawk thing on thetop of my helmet with the camera
pointing out right there.
But then there was a wire goingdown and I wore a fanny pack
because the battery was in.
The battery was in the fannypack and I I agreed to race with
this.

(40:35):
So it was, you know, like I hadto wear like a couple pound
fanny pack and uh, that's wherethat great footage came from is
me running to mike craig thatnight.
And uh, yeah, it was prettywild.
I don't know, I'm not even surethat I wore the thing for the
final, because I was probably.
I was like, take it off,superstitious, a little bit like

(40:55):
, oh, yeah, he's got to come off.
I eventually started wearing ita little bit more, and even in
finals that thing was so heavy.
I don't know what got into meand why I agreed to wear that,
but anyway the footage wasreally cool.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yes, it was yes I wouldn't know if that was worth
it or not, but anything forfootage for sure that's funny,
you caught yourself yeah, here'sthe thing.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Uh, fanny packs are designed, I think, mostly to
wear behind um, and the way, theway that it worked out with the
batteries, they were kind ofheavy and hanging off the back.
So I will turn around and woreit forwards and it was a really
thin fanny pack, um, so that'sin style right now yeah jeremy,

(41:39):
you're you're two decades, twodecades early yeah don't they
hang off the side now, though,yeah, man, I got them
cross-bodied now yeah, yeah, Idon't know about that for me.
No, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yeah, exactly, I'm good hey, so I just searched on.
Do you remember this?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
look at that oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Bradshaw was really okay.
You want a story behind thatone I do, I do so, uh, that was
when bradshaw made his comeback.
Uh, oh, wait, no, oh, that wasthe first time.
He's number eight right there,right, yeah, that's 93.
So, um, yeah, he's never okay.

(42:22):
So I you know, bradshaw wastypically a pretty good starter
and he was the.
He was, he's a legend, he'slike one of my favorites and I
love bradshaw, but he, you know,yeah, he's, he was one year, am
I?

Speaker 1 (42:35):
number one right there, or number 15?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
yeah, 15, so that's 93.
So, uh, I remember whathappened was is, uh, I hole shot
at him and then I closed this,I closed off the start and just
pinched him.
I didn't wreck him or nothing,and I just came in and slowed
him down and had my elbow outand slowed him down a little bit
and, uh, I won the race,obviously.

(42:58):
And then, after he was supermad at me for for doing that,
I'm like okay, what do you wantme to let you go?
What do you want me to let yougo?
This is racing.
So, uh, anyways, I think theremight have been a couple of
expletive words in thereshocking yeah, yeah I might have
told them it's time for you toretire.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Whatever happened.
Like I know, you're a big TroyLee guy now but whatever
happened to Cinesalo dude?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, I don't know.
So my friend, bob Rathkamp, whonow is the Garnet boot
distributor he was the first,you know.
Basically he used to work forAxo years ago and then he went
off and got the distributorshipfor for cinesolo, and that was
like in 90 I mean jeff ward waswearing it before I was.
But um, yeah, so like 93 and 94I wore cinesolo, but I'm not

(43:53):
really sure what happened.
It seemed like it was goingpretty well and we changed the
gear, we got it pretty cool andthen, um, I don't know, for
whatever, whatever reason, hewent off to do some other stuff
and dude.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
It's like talking about old gear, chris, like
obviously you know we race inthe same kind of era do you
remember yoko with the hrp orhpr chest protector like I was
big hr guy yeah dude.
Yeah, I was like.
I was like I need a yokosponsor.
I didn't even know who made thegear or anything, I just wanted
to be looking exactly like them.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
You want to look like C Lampton.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Yeah, that's what I was trying to do, bella.
I'm going to let you get backto your questions, but the
winners of the three hats we gotthem written down.
It's Alan Hamilton 12-12,.
Haley Ray, 22,.
And Colton Hurst Woo.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Yeah, Congrats guys.
Excellent, Cool man.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Kind of on that same sponsorship topic.
But throughout your careeryou've built these partnerships
with your sponsors.
I know Max's is a big part ofyour team but kind of tell us
like the content that you guysget to create together and like
you know what events you guysget to go to and still staying
in the industry but not reallycompeting yeah, you know what I

(45:08):
mean.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Maxis is like the perfect partner because I do all
these different sports right.
So I have my, my mountain bikes, I have my motocross bikes and
then we obviously do fun stuffwith my automobiles, obviously
the side-by-side.
So you know, look we at, maxxisand myself, we just try to do

(45:31):
everything fun related andcompetition is a bonus.
But I've also been competingfor so many years and we kind of
cherry-pick different races togo do.
Obviously my daughter Rowan,she loves side-by-sides, just
like you do, and we go out andrace together and we've done

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Johnson Valley, which is King ofthe Hammers, several times and
we put on a fun Maxis JeremyMcGrath ride each year there.
We go to things like Trail Heroand St George for side-by-side
stuff, and then that's notincluding all the motocross
events that I do.
So, yeah, I think our you knowlike again what the Motorcycle

(46:18):
Avenue has provided for me to do, all these other fun, you know,
fun sports and still stayinvolved.
We just did a really fun bmxevent called the dirty fest in
senecula at veil lake, and um II just absolutely had so much
fun.
I was riding bmx with a bunchof these guys that I used to
look, look to, and they were allon the cover of the magazines

(46:39):
when I was a little kid and uh.
So those kinds of things, youknow, I I just try to like I
have so many friends in allkinds of industries, what's cool
.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
What's cool about Jeremy and what he's saying is
like the dude loves to ride.
He loves like you can hear itin his voice and that's why he
has friends everywhere he goes.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
He has a passion for it.

Speaker 6 (47:06):
Yeah, Like that really comes through, Like,
above all else, you love to ride, Like you love to compete, Like
the other thing that's neatabout the Maxxis partnership is
like before we started gettinginto all this side-by-side stuff
and everything else, you won achampionship in Pro 2 on

(47:29):
MaxSense.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, I was just thinking about that.
I forgot about that.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
That's, you know, like that's how wide what you've
done is, which is super cool.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Yeah, you got a whole different spectrum of a bunch
of diverse things, so that kindof goes that?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
that kind of goes back to your.
One of your first questions isyou know, when I was done and
retired from racing, um, I spenteight years racing short course
and that was such a greatavenue to to be able to keep
racing.
Yeah, you know, like on aserious level, um, and I spent
nine seasons.
I think it was nine seasons, um.

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But I mean, the short courseworld is such, is so fun.
It's just like supercross in atruck and uh, yeah, we, like
with maxis, we had so muchsuccess, we won the, we won the
pro two championship, won a lotof races and, uh, man, just
achieve the highest goals thatthat we set for ourselves in
that sport.
Um, so, yeah, I, I just gosh,it was so fun.

(48:32):
But now, you know, with KyleStockey's intro into the
side-by-side world and with mebeing a brand ambassador, um, I
mean, I don't know if anyone'sout there ever ran roxillas on
their side-by-sides, but if youhaven't, you definitely need to
do that, because they are thestickiest, most badass tires you
could ever put on aside-by-side for for for for

(48:54):
johnson valley at least, and um,for a lot of different things
we run.
We run 35 inch roxillas on oneverything we do, whether we're
going to baja, whether we'regoing out in the hills here or
whether we're going to johnsonvalley, wherever it is the rocks
in st george, the slick rockand all that stuff it's.
I mean, it's just it changesside by side and really and uh,

(49:16):
so anyways, we do a lot of that,we do a lot of, I do a lot of
mountain, I do a lot of mountainbiking.
Obviously still A lot of dirtbiking, still.
I just like to try to do allthings fun.
My fascination with two wheelsstarted when I was Chris's son's
age on my big wheel.
So that's how it works.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
That's how it yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Real quick, bill, and then I'll let you get on again.
So Brantley K actually said acouple things.
He asked one of the questionsand I didn't give him enough
credit, chris, so we got fournow.
But he also said and I'm goingto say something after this
comment, but he said, what adream life you lived, jeremy.
You sure made it a wonderfullife for you, your wife and your
girls.

(49:56):
There's a lot to that statement, right, because a lot of that
means your hard work anddedication not only to your work
, to your life and to yourfamily.
But it's been a long road,right.
There's been tons of trials andtribulations that have come
through that life, but you stillevery day get up and put your

(50:17):
family first.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, you know, I think, as far as, of course,
family first, that's really allI think about, and I've been
blessed enough to have a reallygreat schedule to to hang out
with my kids a lot and my wife alot I don't have to travel so
much anymore, um.
But I think you know the main.
The main lesson in all this isif you have passion for
something and you love it enough, you can make something out of

(50:41):
it, whether it's a job, whetherit's a career, whether it's a
race, a racing position.
I just think that if I didn'tstart racing dirt bikes because
I wanted to make money or Iwanted to have this long career,
I did it because I was so inlove with it that I just felt
like I could be good at it, andI think that works in a lot of

(51:03):
that, works in a lot of works ina lot of life.
You know like if you love whatyou're doing, you'll never feel
like it's a day at work, right?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
so, um, it doesn't feel like a chore to get up and
put effort into it.
It's more right I want to.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I want to succeed and I know a lot, I know a lot of
people maybe don't have thatoption and I'm one of the lucky
ones for sure.
But at the same time, if youcan put that kind of passion
into your side projects, intoyour, into your you know your
weekend projects, you knowthere's, there's other, there's
also more opportunity out there,if you can just put your whole

(51:36):
heart into it and I feel like,um, you know, for for me it's
just really, I feel like rightnow in my life, even at at this
age and having a family and allthat stuff, I feel like it's
just like I was out there in theback of my parents house riding
my dirt bike.
You know the things I do Ireally love to do them and, uh,
if I wasn't, if I didn't love it, I wouldn't be doing them.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Yeah, if you didn't love it, you wouldn't't be doing
them.
Yeah, if you didn't love it,you wouldn't make it
family-oriented too, which iscool, because then you get to
bring your kids into it andshare something with them that
you get to experience way beforethey're even alive.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, and I think it's not an easy sell, right,
it's not an easy sell for me.
People know how I feel, theyknow that.
They can see it.
They can see it by my actions.
They know what I do, they knowhow much I love off-roading, I
love dirt bikes, I love bikes, Ilove this style of life and you

(52:30):
know it's not an easy, it's nota hard sell Like it's my life,
that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
It's really cool, it's admirable to pick that
young and go.
I'm doing that somehow.
You pick that goal and then youjust shoot for it until you
succeed in some capacity.
That's the clarity, right.
Yeah, yeah, this is what I'mmeant for.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, well, yeah, that's and's.
And you know, when you're, whenyou're young, you're not,
you're not totally sure thatmaybe that's the right decision.
Right, I mean, when I was inhigh school and bagging
groceries at bonds, I wasn'tthinking man supercross titles
on the horizon here.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
I wasn't, I wasn't thinking that for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
But I kept plugging away and I thank God my parents
were, you know, so stoked for meand just really helped me and
helped me get along in that motoworld and they kind of provided

(53:39):
enough opportunity for that.
If I could get to Supercross,get to the stadium floor and be
able to race those tracks, thatI'd be good at it.
And that's a combination ofjust kind of feeling like Chris,
like you said, and all the BMXskills that I learned as a
little kid.
I think the Supercross as asport was kind of ready for a
change.
I think the Supercross as asport was kind of ready for a

(54:00):
change and my style, the style,the techniques that I had and
was bringing into the sport, wassort of changing the way things
were done in that sport.
And you know that partsometimes you got to be a little
lucky right, the timing's gotto be good.
The era before me really wasn'tinto like staying low.
They were into jumping as highas you possibly can and all

(54:20):
these things that can shave timeoff your lap time and all these
things that I learned in bmxreally helped me for that.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
So, um, you know, bella, I was looking at, uh,
some videos of jeremy the otherday and jeremy, you know this.
I mean, like everybody talksabout the bubba scrub all the
time and we're not discountingthat at all but like I remember
seeing like a lot of the guysthat were precursors to your
generation were like they wouldpreload the shit out of the bike
to make it go over the jump,like it was all you could do

(54:47):
because it was low horsepower.
But then you started pushingthrough the jump and pushing
down and like letting the frontend, you know, come to the
ground first, and it was likewhat the heck is like.
It was like the same thing aswhen, uh, nobody had seen it
right yeah it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It looks so strange then, right, it looks so
impressive because, um, I wasable to, like I figured out the
method of like hitting the jumpsfaster and and pushing through
the lips instead of like, likeyou said, like pushing into the
bike and skying it super high.
You know, it was really just aBMX thing and I figured out how

(55:25):
to adapt that to motos.
And it took guys a few years tocapitalize and like figure out
how to learn that.
So I was kind of like freereign.
I had my own style for like acouple seasons before guys sort
of caught onto it.
And that part part, I think, isjust lucky, right, because the
sport was kind of ready for thatand I was the one doing it.

(55:45):
And, um, you know, even guysthat I raced against weren't it
took them a while to figure thatout.
So nowadays, you know, you see,you see the evolution of the
scrub from what I was doing towhat james did, to what all
these other guys are doing.
You know, if, if you don't ridelike that now, you're not even,
you can't even keep up.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah, Well, and it's always evolving right.
Like I don't know who said it,like Wygan or somebody said,
generational talents.
But like you can see, it's likethe next step, right, because
you had like people like youthat were very technical and
very like focused, like like youthat were very technical and
very like focused like you, youknew what half an inch meant on
the track, right, yeah, but nowyou now you see, like the bubba

(56:23):
scrub and everything was kind ofloose.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Well, now jet's tidying it up again and you can
see he's back to going that fastand hitting that accuracy yeah,
that's true, you know he's,he's uh, hitting his marks at a
way faster pace with you know,and and and it's, his skill set
is really high, uh, and thosebikes are super powerful, so
it's pretty impressive to watch.
I mean, he's, he's young, he'sgoing to be winning for a long

(56:47):
time and, uh, it's, it's beenpretty fun to watch.
But you know, I think it again,whatever it was lucky timing or
changing a style, whatever itwas, just the sport was ready
for a change and and I was theone to do it.
So I feel, feel lucky, feellucky to kind of grow up at that
time yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
A lot of the comments that are coming in are
basically saying that same thing.
We all feel lucky that you grewup in that time we all had
somebody except for yeah youguys, I was, yeah, they didn't
feel lucky kind of.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
On the topic of evolution and just like the
growth of this sport, how peopleI know you mentioned this to me
not so long ago, it was eitheryou or somebody else but how
riders used to take care ofbodies compared to like.
Then, you know, like beforeraces, like if they were
prepping for it or if they werejust going and partying, or if
they.
You know what has changed sinceyou last competed?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
You know, I think it's funny, we, we talked about
that on the way to the lake andwe talked about, we talked about
how, if you look, if you thinkabout all the comments from
people back in the day, like, oh, mc used to go out and he used
to have so much fun, go out toparties and all this stuff and I
did, wasn't afraid to go out,but at the same time, uh, I

(58:06):
wanted my competition to thinkthat I was out there doing that
a lot more than I actually wasand that was kind of part of my
strategy, like if, if theythought I wasn't working, then
that means they weren't going tobe working so then I could
secretly work and no one knewabout it.
And then they thought I was outthere all the time, never
training, never doing any ofthat.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
So um I laugh.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
I laugh hard when people say like, oh man, the
sport used to be so cool.
These guys never trained, theynever did.
All they did is go out righthere and all this stuff, and
that's so far from the truth,but it's what it seemed.
So, um, yeah, I wasn't afraidto go out when it was right, the
right time and have a good timetrust me on that.
But uh, there was plenty ofwork being done behind the

(58:47):
scenes and, uh, that was proofof what was happening on the
weekends yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
That's a gnarly.
I can.
I can remember that as ayoungster too, like all of the
you know, like motocross mediaand this big yeah, how's he
doing this?
And you know, I can rememberthat kind of, because even that
kind of made your legend groweven further.

(59:14):
Right, you know amongst the fanbase.
Yeah, totally, I think you knowamongst the fan base.
Yeah, totally, I think.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
So I think you know helpful yeah, I think one of the
things that I um really pridemyself on is just being
relatable.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, I can ride a dirtbike, but, and yeah, it's been
great at times for you know,something people maybe could not
achieve, but at the end of theday, I was, I'm just a dirt bike
rider, you know what I mean.
Um well, I remember a funnystory in 93, uh, when I started

(59:45):
winning in a honda, jeff stantonwas on the team.
That was the year he retired,but he was number one in 93 and
I was number 15 and I was arookie um, but, like, at the
practice tracks and stuff, wewould be sitting there, um, when
, when we were practicing and Iwould be eating like candy bars
and stuff in front of him, buton purpose, like because he was

(01:00:06):
a training fanatic, he would gocrazy like training all the time
.
Yeah, I just wanted him tothink that I was doing nothing,
it was great.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Oh, that's it, we're going to get out of here with
this banana pants kit.
We just wanted to hop on whenwe saw everything going on.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
All right, Chris, thank you.
Thank you very much for thesupport and giving the hats to
all the fans and stuff.
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Yeah, let's get with Jeremy and then I'll work with
Jeremy to replenish and if weneed to send shipping labels and
whatever, we'll get a dial.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Thank you.
I can ship them out from here,no worries, we'll get a dial,
chris thanks for popping on goodto see y'all thank you so much
for coming on.
Be careful don't get nerfedover there.
That's right, a little late,see ya.
Don't get nerfed over there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
That's right, it's a little late.
All right, we'll holler, seeyou.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
See you All.
Right, bell, what's someserious stuff that you got.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Some serious stuff.
Okay, well, I know we've allbeen wanting to know, but
personally I've been wanting toknow the kind of competitive
drive that is behind the king.
You know, like, even beforeevents and before races, what
was your mindset?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
like, like, how would you prepare yourself?
Did you work well underpressure?
You know, I feel like I wasalways pretty well under
pressure, but there's a fewraces where I didn't perform as
good as I thought I could havewhen I needed to, but I think
overall I was pretty good.
I don't think it reallybothered me.
I mean I had a pretty good like.

(01:01:48):
I felt like every time I wentout I could win.
So if I didn't win I wasn'tangry by it or anything like
that.
I was always like, okay, well,maybe tonight wasn't my night
and you know I'll get them nextweek, but for the most part I
came in pretty prepared.

(01:02:12):
Where I had to learn that, youknow where I had to learn all
this stuff again was in off-roadright, because when I started
racing short course, yeah, I waspretty good, but I wasn't
winning right away.
Control course, yeah, I waspretty good, but I wasn't
winning right away, and I wonkind of sporadically.
For you know, I'd win someraces during the year, but never
even close to the championshipuntil I got my own team and then
I sort of really put my headdown and tried to figure it out

(01:02:33):
and and got the right.
As you know you, if you get theright crew behind you, the
right parts, the right car, youknow the right horsepower, the
right, the right parts, theright car.
You know the right horsepower,the right.
It's a lot of it's a giantpuzzle to figure out, right,
it's a giant puzzle, but once Iput my head down to do that, I
started winning a lot more andthen I won the championship.
So, you know, I think I think Ihave the right mindset and the

(01:02:56):
right, the right strategies andthe way to learn how to win, win
whatever I'm doing.
I think you know, like, if I can, um, you know, when I was
younger at least, and, uh, so Idon't know, I, I think I, I'm, I
have a really good, uh sort ofway outlook, I guess, on how to

(01:03:18):
get things done like this.
I like the mechanical side ofit too.
So I know a lot of racers today.
They have, um, you know, I, Iwould say they just have a
little more of a struggle tryingto maybe set their bikes up or
set their cars up or something.
But you know, it's really allabout communication and trying
to dig in and learn about whatyou're, what you're driving,

(01:03:38):
what you're riding, and andlearn the mechanics of it,
because sometimes you need tounderstand how it works on paper
before you can go actually putit together on the track yeah,
bella, I think a lot of thequestions that you're asking too
, jeremy's saying the same thing, you know, to a lot of this
effect, like, especially for allthe young people that are
watching your bella's corner, isthat hard work, that that's

(01:03:58):
number one, that's the staple,right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
you got to be able to work hard in anything that you
do.
And the second is you got tohave at least a mild form of
confidence and then, as yourconfidence builds, use that
confidence as a drivingmechanism to be able to go
faster and do better right.
And then the last one that'svery important as well, is a
support mechanism.
Jeremy's had a lot of support,but the reason that he got those
support mechanisms was becauseof who he is, because he's

(01:04:22):
humble, you know, he's veryrelatable and all of those
different things can help anyyoung person that's watching in
any of the racing or any of thethings that they want to do in
life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I think you've got to have discipline too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Which I'm not sure I had when I was a kid.
I'm not sure I did, but I mean,as a kid you learn how to have
that.
I mean, if you want somethingbad enough, you need to
understand that it takesdiscipline and uh, you know, I
mean I, I, I always say this Iwas pretty lazy as a kid, but I
learned how to grow up fast.
I learned that I needed to workand whatever it.
You know I, I wanted thatultimate goal, so I did whatever

(01:05:03):
it took and I think, I think,uh, there's no easy way.
There's just no easy way.
If you want it bad enough, yougot to work hard and that's how
it is yeah, jeremy, you'll makesomebody's day.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Can you please say hi , kelvin from Brazil what's up,
kelvin, how you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
I like Brazil.
I went over to Brazil and shottwo weeks.
I was over there for two weeksshooting Steel Roots, one of my
Steel Roots movies.
I have a lot of friends over inBrazil.
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
What you got next, Bella.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Well next, this is a question I've been wanting to
ask for a while, but when willwe see you competing in the PGA
Tour for golf Whoa?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Oh man, well, I guess at this point it might be the
senior tour, right?
Uh, I really love golf, sothat's what bella's talking
about.
I wish I would have startedwhen I was like five years old,
because then maybe the potentialof something like that
happening could happen.
But um, I don't know.

(01:06:04):
I've never really competed ingolf, which is pretty funny, but
I've been working on my gamelately, been working on it quite
a lot.
I just went over to the Kingdomat TaylorMade and got a new
club fit and so I don't know,I'm just super into it Summer's
coming, excited about golf.
I really like watching thisweekend's a major, so I'm don't
know, I'm just super into itSummer's coming, excited about
golf.
I really like watching thisweekend's a major, so I'm

(01:06:28):
excited about that.
I don't know, you won't see meon PGA, but we'll be on the golf
course.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Okay, hey, did you know that?
Bella's brother and Chase Carr,who are all on the show tonight
?
They are avid golf fans.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
All right.
Well then, that sounds like weneed to all get together and
play some golf.
Jason Cruz would absolutelylove that and Rowan Rowan loves
golf.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
I know Rowan's got to teach me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Yeah, no, it's a great game.
You can have a lot of businessmeetings on the golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Rowan's pretty skilled at everything she does,
though I think she's justcoordinated and anything she
really does, think she's justcoordinated and like anything
she really does, I'm like okay,well, she's got it she must have
got her dad's jeans, see uh,kind of bringing in rowan and
bergen.
But what has been your favoritething?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
watching them succeed in proudest dad moment so far
uh, you know, I don't know, Ithink my kids are pretty good.
I, obviously I'm biased, but,um, they don't cause too much
trouble.
Um, you know it's, it's beeninteresting for me.
You know, I've always wanted tobe a dad and then just trying
to, trying to teach those lifelessons and stuff like that it's

(01:07:37):
.
You know, I think one thing wealways pound, try to pound in
their head is like you, you haveto be, you know.
You, you have to work for it,you have to be disciplined, you.
Nothing's gonna come easy,although it's been pretty easy
for them up to this point.
But Rowan's going to collegesoon, so she's gonna have to
really grow up on this one.
Um, so, uh, but, yeah, we enjoyracing together.

(01:08:00):
Um, I love watching them playsports and do what they do.
Yeah, um, but I also we loveour off-roading time.
So it's been fun.
I mean, being a dad is betterthan I ever imagined and it's
pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, that's cool.
Well, I'd say I pretty muchasked you everything I I really
really was excited to, so, Well,I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I appreciate you guys letting me come on.
It's always fun to catch up.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
No, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I know one thing we are doing right now is we're
working on some KRX.
I got my friend Jim Andersoninvolved and we're trying to
really come up with a goodKawasaki shock setting Well,
shock forksasaki shock settingUh well, shock forks.
No shock, yeah, shocks yeah.
Um, forks are dirt bikes, butanyway, uh, we we've.

(01:08:59):
Uh, when Rowan, when Rowan andI raced Johnson Valley for King
of the Hammers in the desertrace, um, I was I mean, I rode
co-driver right so the ruts weredeep, the the car was a little
soft, it was at its, you know,heaviest point, right, because
it's full of fuel and all thespare stuff on it, and so I
realized that we need to reallywork, work, work, uh, some
things out with the suspension.
So, um, I'm working on doingthat right now and then we're

(01:09:22):
hoping to hit some races, maybethis summer, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
For sure.
You guys should definitely tryto head out to Vegas Torino.
I think that'd be super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yeah, chris, from Maxis, we've been talking about
it a lot and you know,logistically for us we don't
really have a team or anything.
It's just me and my friendsthat work on the cars, and I
think between maxis, though, andand kawasaki, we might be able
to, and you guys, maybe we couldcome up, we could come up with
like a pit crew strategy to um,get to the race.

(01:09:54):
You know, I mean, have you donethat race?
yes, I have it's a long race.
Right, it's a long race.
It's a long race when you chasethe race on the street.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
It's got to be a long off road race at least a 12
hour day on a good day.
It's a lot of effort, but forsure I think me and Rowan got to
do something here soon yeah, Ithink so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I think you guys do.
And then, hey, at the end ofthe day, you end up in Reno.
You're a long ways away fromhome.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
500 miles later, jeremy, if you guys are
interested.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
And then hey, at the end of the day you end up in
Reno.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
You're a long ways away from home.
Yeah Jeez 500 miles later.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Jeremy, if you guys are interested in doing that
with a fan, we'd love to helpout too.
Yeah, no, I need first andforemost, like I said, I'm
working on the suspension andworking on the car, so we're
trying to get something that'seven that we can even think
about racing for that.
You know what I mean.
So, as you know, if we go to arace, we want to compete at the
front, so we got to get the carset up for that and we've done

(01:10:54):
some races, some DP4 races andsome other races and stuff.
We did California 300, we didthe UTV World Championships, we
did some fun races, but VegasArena was a whole other animal,
so we just need to be ready forit.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Hey, jeremy, don't look over your left shoulder.
I know, I know, Hi, rowan, hi.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
It's definitely a challenge, but I would love to
see you guys out there, and evenbeing a team out there would be
super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I know I'm super down .
All right.
Well, it sounds like we need tohave a meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Yeah, thanks, jeremy, I appreciate it.
Hey, I still want to get withyou on a couple other things.
Like Pro Eagle would like tohelp you out with some stuff.
Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Yeah, yeah, we um.
I enjoyed being on with youguys.
Thanks for your time, thank you, and uh, I look forward to more
fun stuff that we can talkabout sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Thank you so much, jeremy, I really appreciate all
right, bye guys, see you byerowan that was pretty awesome
yeah you did a great job I'd saythat was pretty cool, pretty
good turnout so, uh, one thingbefore we start getting uh the
other guys on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
We're gonna get thor herbst and jeremy munyon on, but
how was it interviewing your uh, well, we'll just for lack of a
better word your first bigguest.
What did you think?
Did it go easier or was itpretty stressful?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
um, I'd say at first it was pretty stressful, kind of
breaking the ice, deciding whatreally to start off with and
set the tone, but as theconversation went on, it went
pretty good.
I mean, I got to learn a lot ofthings that I had no idea about
, you know, things that youcan't just look up, things.
You've got to really ask theking.
So it's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Those are the exact things that we want, right.
All right, melody, let's getthe intro going for Thor Herbst
and Jeremy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
What's up, guys, how you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
How's it going, hey?

Speaker 8 (01:12:47):
Hey, how's it going.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Pretty good.
So, thor Herbst, I actuallyhave a really good introduction.
Our next guest is Thor Herbst,from Las Vegas, nevada, driver
of the number 219 Trophy TruckSpec Class.
Terrible Herbst Motorsportsteam team member and winner of
the 2023 and 2024 score sanfelipe 250.
So I'd say you're on a prettygood run lately.

(01:13:11):
You just finished the sanfelipe 250 and took it home, so
give us a quick race recap onhow that went we did well we.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
To win in that class, you have to have a perfect day,
which everybody in the classknows.
You can't have any problems,and the person who doesn't is
going to, most of the time, endup the winner.
We had a really good day.
Jeremy and I kept it clean andended up winning the race, but

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that doesn't always happen.
We've had races where we'vebroke and we're problems just
come up out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
So, yeah, we had a good one yeah, for sure, it
sounds like you went prettysmooth yeah yeah, there was the
thors.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
Be a pretty chill about that, jeremy.
Like you guys had a few, uh,close calls and like it was a
like a pretty decent race man,but you guys were on it yeah, I
mean, as far as a clean day is,is no stops and you're you're
keeping forward momentum thewhole time.

Speaker 8 (01:14:10):
Obviously there's going to be little hiccups here
and there it's desert racing.
So, um, you know, we just triedto have a decent pace and
really not have any issues andreally in that class a flat tire
will take you out of the wind.
So that was proven to be factwith Jason McNeil, who's, you
know, kind of dominated thatclass within the last couple of

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years.
And you know, we know we've hadpace to run up front and
sometimes it just takes a littlebit of luck that that goes your
way to really have a clean, aclean day.
Clean day, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know if there's suchthing as a fully clean day in
history, but you know we can tryto get as close as we can to it
.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Have you noticed a lot of progression in like your
speed and your consistency inthe last few years, thor?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
For sure, and I think Jeremy can probably say more
about this than I can.
But no, when we first startedyears ago I wouldn't call myself
as comfortable as I am now inthe driver's seat and I think in
the past year, year and a half,is when we really started to
compete and really be able tohang out with the guys who were

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normally at the top, and I thinkwe've started to really break
into that group and compete inevery race that we compete, that
we race in yeah, for sure, hasthat changed with your pits,
like being able to, like realize, oh dang, I got to expand this
pit crew because now I'mbettering myself as a driver.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
So, around like, how many hands do you use a weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
You know, we've always had a pretty large, large
pit crew.
We don't just pit for ourselves, sometimes we pit for other
cars that one nine industrieshas has built, and trophy trucks
, uh, spec trucks, uh yeah,we've kind of expanded past just

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the 219 car and I guess itstarted with the 19 car, but
I've gone into a lot of otherpeople's pits, so we really have
a big group of people.
I don't know, jeremy, do youknow how many people we have on
a normal race weekend down thereacross probably one or two pits
, probably like 50 yes, so itchanges a little bit per what

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race it is and how many pitsthat we are running um, but on
average we go down there withsomewhere between, you know, for
the big races 60 to 70 peoplesomewhere between you know

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
for the big races, 60 to 70 people Dang.
That's crazy.
You'd be surprised, bella, howquickly those people are used to
work, though, like there's alot of stuff that happens with
all of the action that's goingon, because, you've got to
remember, there's usuallyanywhere from three to six
trucks and each truck takes acertain amount of people, and
those trucks get to thoselocations at different times.
So the way that they strategizeit and the way that they do it,

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it's uh, I don't want to sayskeleton crew on each truck,
because there's plenty of people, but uh, it's very formatted
per the uh, I don't know whatyou want to call it the
longevity of the race and theformat of when people arrive to
the pits right, it's not likeit's overcrowded.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Everyone's there for a purpose and has a specific job
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah, sometimes it is yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
It's always overcrowded at lunchtime.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Exactly, yeah, no, when they're serving food,
people always find their way tothe grill.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Oh, we got to know what pit crew snacks do you guys
have?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Jeremy Ooh.

Speaker 8 (01:17:44):
In the pits, Uncrustables are always a go-to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
They're just fast, easy Water and our favorite
little mouth pillow snack.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
No, I'm on the same one.
When I'm in the car it'sUncrustable pool, it's probably
the easiest, most like I wouldsay, energy field thing.
You can probably eat in a shortamount of time.
Um, but I mean when I'm justhanging out I'll just make a
sandwich or eat a taco orsomething whatever's available

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everyone it's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
maybe it's just a racing thing, I don't know.
Maybe we got to start gettingsponsored by them or something.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
They'd make a hit in desert racing for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
They definitely would .

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
There's some non-endemics that could easily
come into the Herbs crew.

Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
For sure I can already see one.
Remember what was it the lastshow that we talked with?
Oh, why am I forgetting hisname?
But we got mustaches all overthe place in the last couple
shows.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Brock Brock.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Brock yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Jeremy's definitely got a better mustache.
I don't have anything on now,but sometimes I have a little
guy.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
Oh, when you got here , it's good though.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I didn't ask a question because every other
question was about his mustache.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
His mustache got a lot of love on that show it
really did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
I'm pretty sure that's all we talked about.
As racers, we tend to put a lotof pressure on ourselves to
perform well.
I personally know this, but I'msure you do too.
I want to talk about your 2023season.
You went into the Baja 1000, Ithink around 17 to 20 points
down from first place.
What was that kind of how didyou go into that?

(01:19:38):
What kind of mindset did youhave?
You know, being that it wassuch a big race and you were so
close to leading?

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
You know, yeah, it was such a big race and you were
so close to leading.
You know, yeah, it was a Iforget, I don't know, yeah, I
forget that might be exactly howmany points, but we were right
on jason mcneil, uh, going intothat race, and you know it's
such a long race to where youcan't really think about that in
the very beginning.
Uh, you kind of just have toput that aside.
And because over a ball 1000,whether it's 900 miles or 1300

(01:20:09):
miles, something's bound to gowrong.
And in my case something wentwrong at mile 20, which I got a
flat, lost my brakes and, um, abunch of people got by me.
But, um, we were, we were ableto work our way back up and, uh,
I actually on our way back up,I saw Jason McNeil broke and

(01:20:32):
that made me feel a littlebetter because all we needed to
do was beat him and so at thatpoint we were kind of just
cruising at a good pace and thenthe disaster struck at the very
end.
But, um, yeah, no, it was.
Uh, you can't really, you can'treally think about that stuff
in the long run.
I know you're you do, but youkind of have to put it to the

(01:20:54):
side and whatever happenshappens and you just got to
trust that how you drive and howeverybody else prepared is
going to get you to where youneed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Jeremy.
There's a lot behind thatstatement, though, that Thor's
talking about, because there'sso many details that happen
every second or every 10 secondsof a 1,300-mile race, right,
like, how do you guys managethat?
Because the I don't know whatyou want to call it, but the
brainpower that both of you guysare using while driving that
truck for so long and I don'tknow just how do you keep

(01:21:28):
focused Because there's so muchhappening.

Speaker 8 (01:21:33):
Well, kind of like what Thor was saying.
You know, like results, youdon't want to necessarily wait
for things to come to you,especially in a race like that
where it's so long people canget away from you.
And you know, ultimately, likewe talked about when we had kind
of just a flawless day at SanFelipe, like even at a ball in
1000, like it almost takessomething like that to have

(01:21:53):
success, um, especially in sucha competitive class, um, luckily
, breaking the race up betweenmultiple drivers and co-drivers
definitely helps.
But uh, you know, if you justkind of sit back and wait for
things to happen, you kind ofget caught in dust and then you
smack a rock and you know, rip acorner off or something like
that.
So you really have to be kindof in your race pace and in in

(01:22:16):
your your kind of charge mode,um, and kind of just almost hope
for the best.
You know, obviously thereobviously there's a lot of
strategy that goes into itlogistically, car setup.
You know pre-running thingslike that.
You know Thor and I, you knowriding with Thor and his brother
Pierce.
You know we talk about thingswhile we're pre-running, like if

(01:22:38):
we're in dust we're not goingto take this line, or if we're
out of dust then we will takethis line.
You know, luckily, with thesupport that we do have.
Um, you know, sometimes it'snice to to wait to fuel, for you
know right behind somebody andwe know that they're going to
stop soon.
You know just track positionalone, like you.
There's so much that goes onwithin that.

(01:23:01):
Nine to 1300 miles.
That, uh, you know it'sconstant strategy and there's
things that are constantlychanging.
Um, you know, the motto withinour team is things are subject
to change all the time.
So, um, you know, you kind ofjust have to be ready for
whatever's going to happen, um,and then just manage it as best
as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yeah, for sure, it kind kind of does suck, but you
always have to be like, okay,going into a race expecting
anything, expecting thatanything can happen yeah,
absolutely good or bad, so butyeah, yeah it is.
It can be difficult anddefinitely like kind of mentally
straining a little bit,especially if you're going 1,000

(01:23:44):
miles.
Yeah, just to get to the endand then something like that
happen, but it is racing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
What's the longest race you've ever done, though?

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Me yeah, vegas-torino .

Speaker 8 (01:23:55):
It's long enough.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
Yeah, it is long enough, 500 miles too long.

Speaker 8 (01:24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Yeah, exactly yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
That is a long one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Sure, Did you got anything George?

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
Yeah, absolutely so.
There's a few things that I getto see behind the scenes, right
, and one of the things that Iwant to talk about, bell, is
because you asked Jeremy thesekinds of questions.
Thor and Jeremy can both answerthis, but they can answer it
only with like half knowledge,right?
Because they don't see all ofthe marketing and stuff that
happens behind the scenes whenthey're out there, on course,
but you see everythingafterwards.

(01:24:33):
And what would you suggest toBella and to all of her young
viewers?

Speaker 8 (01:24:38):
That's a good way to put yourself out there so that
you can market and get sponsorsand different things like that
um, I mean, the biggest thing isjust being who you are, right
like, don't, don't change or tryto be someone that, uh, that's
not you.
You know sponsors are gonna comeand go and ultimately you want

(01:25:00):
them to to like you and tosupport you for who you are.
Um, you know so, whatever that,whatever that may be, um, try
to just stay true to what yourprogram is and and what you want
to see your success as.
Um, you know, if you're you'rehappy with your program and
you're happy with the thingsthat you're doing, success will

(01:25:21):
come.
Um, you know so, sometimes youjust got to fight it out.
Things get frustrating fromtime to time, but, uh, yeah,
just making those connectionswith who you are, as as as your
own person, uh, really goes along way with people.
Um, especially when you startmoving up the ladder a little
bit, um, they really take thatas as like it being a sincere

(01:25:43):
person, and you'll get a lotmore support that way.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Yeah, because people can see right through it,
absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
How has your guys' journey been with all of that?
Kind of just you know, withsponsors and excelling in the
sport.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Well, I can help clarify this a little bit.
Thor, you guys have been very,very good over the last year and
a half on putting yourselvesout there.
You guys now offer live feeds.
Thank you for letting us be apart of it, by the way, but this
is basically a connection thatyou get to see all of the
natural things that happenduring a race.
You get to see everything thathappens in the truck.

(01:26:24):
You get to see everything thathappens when you get out of the
natural things that happenduring a race, right, you get to
see everything that happens inthe truck.
You get to see everything thathappens when you get out of the
truck.
You get to see everything inthe pits.
All of these things open up alot of vulnerability to your
guys' team to everything that'sgoing on.
You can even pass secrets toother teams, right, like all of
this stuff happens, but you guyshave been on the forefront of
it and it's very exciting towatch.
It's very exciting, and whenpeople get to see that stuff and

(01:26:47):
you guys are being real, it'svery, very valuable.
Is it hard for you guys?

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
um, you know, is it hard?
Are you asking if it's hard tobe in the forefront of the
camera and have all the livestream and all that?
Is that what you're referringto?

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
yeah, because you're basically just putting the
realism of everything out therefor everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
You know I, I mean I can I don't know if I can speak
for jeremy on this, but I meanwe don't really change much from
when the cameras are on, andfor when they're off, um,
everybody's pretty, I would say,like natural and and uh and
comfortable when everything's on, cause I mean, at the end of

(01:27:26):
the day, it's everybody who, we,we all hang out 24, seven when
we're down there and and I meanyou really can't change that
when you're, when you're goingduring a race or you're, the
pits are on or or something elseis going like that, but I mean
it is, but it is, it is coolbeing at the forefront of the
live stream and everybody seeingwhat we're able to do and what

(01:27:46):
we do down there, and I thinkit's a really exciting part of
the future of our sport.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Being able to show everyone else the perspective
that they can't see, that you do, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
We're not going to change how we race really, just
because there's a camera.
That's there.
You know, um, desert racing isan aggressive sport, just like
really any other type of racing.
Um, you know, there's bumping,there's nerf thing there's.
You know things that happen.
So, um, you know, through thegood and the bad, you just try

(01:28:19):
to stay true to who you are andcameras will.
Cameras will show the good andthe bad yes, they will yeah and
bella jeremy said basically thesame thing too.

Speaker 4 (01:28:29):
Like all this stuff that happens with social media
and all of the young viewersthat you have in your audience,
like it's just about being youas much as you possibly can and
people will gravitate to thatfor sure, and you earn lots and
lots of respect from being realand yourself and honest.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
So yeah, definitely yeah stay staying tight with
those people that were therewith you through the uh, through
the beginning too, goes a longway, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Um, bringing those people up with you through your
successes uh, you know, earns alot of respect through that too
yeah, for sure, very good pointhave you uh, so had the same pit
crew, or has it like fluctuateda lot, or you know, people have
come and go, um, but I mean,there's like even when I was a

(01:29:16):
kid, coming down to the raceswatching my dad, there's been a
lot of the same people therethat were there way back then.
Um, but like with life andanything, people come and go and
the everybody we've had andeverybody that is currently
there is amazing, and thevolunteers that we get are
incredible, and everybody whoworks at um one nine and taylor

(01:29:37):
herbst motorsports is anabsolute greatest people in the
world and, yeah, we couldn't bemore grateful to have them all
yeah, that's super cool that youguys have a really great
support system hey, so I got aquestion that I want to ask both
of them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Jeremy, you go first.
What if you could race anythinglike monster truck, speed boat,
indycar f, whatever?
What would you pick like?
If you you can get any cartomorrow, what are you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:30:01):
oh man, um shoot.
I don't have much like a roadracing background.
All my stuff comes from thedirt.
But uh, I would love to getlike an indie car, an f1 car or
something like that.
Just, you know, I'm a, I'm afan of of that side.
Um don't know how much successI would have, but it would be.

(01:30:23):
It would be a ball to go trythat out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
What about you, Thor?

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
You know, I think that'd be pretty fun as well,
getting in a rocket ship of anF1 car.
But I think it'd be prettyfunny to hop in a NASCAR and
give my cousin a little bump.

Speaker 8 (01:30:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
That would be pretty cool.
I always think it's funny.
Because funny?
Because I've always been a big.
After seeing Top of Duke justsending those monster trucks,
I've always been like does thathurt your back?
I want to try it and see if youcan.
Doesn't that feel like it wouldbe too much air to just launch
those things?

Speaker 8 (01:30:56):
Yeah, those things are so wild Suspension seats and
everything that they have inthere too.
I don't even know how you cansee out of them.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Thor, have you seen them when they do like the
backflips?

Speaker 8 (01:31:06):
and all that.
Yeah, so gnarly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
A whole different type of ball game?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, being that this sport isso family-orientated for you,
especially because you know youhave this whole big family tree
of everyone who shared the samepassion for the sport, have you
been able to take um, you know,advantages from that, like
advice from you know, yourgrandpa, your dad, your brothers

(01:31:34):
, like, give us a little rundownon that yeah, no, I mean I I've
been really fortunate um beinggrowing up, growing up in in my
family and being next to amazingdrivers and riding in the car
with amazing drivers andlearning a lot from whoever it
may be.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Like my dad, my uncles, jeremy, I ask advice
from everybody.
I like to mold my driving styleoff of learning from tons of
different people.
I don't really take one thingor the next and hold it.
I like to bring it all into oneand really make it all my own.
But no, I've learned a lot fromeverybody that has been around

(01:32:16):
us as a team and it's, I mean,it's worked out, it's been good.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Do you remember the first car you ever rode in or
you got to drive?

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
We started in go-karts when I was like I think
six and then we went intotrophy karts and then the core
races, which were pretty fun,and then kind of just took a
little break.
I was playing football for awhile and then kind of got into

(01:32:46):
just doing the side-by-sideriding and getting into the
trophy spec class and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:32:53):
Well, that's a long time, though.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Do you remember what first car you drove, Jeremy?

Speaker 8 (01:32:58):
Shoot.
This was probably one of my dador my grandfather's old 1600
cars.
This was probably like an 80s1600 car that we had sitting
around when we were out in thedesert or down in Mexico or
something.
We would kind of learn to driveand kind of.
The first car was a manualclutch car that I started

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driving.
So whenever I get to drive oneof the spec trucks now, it's
almost a little odd not havingthat third pedal.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
Bella, have you ever driven a manual vehicle where
you have the clutch pedal?
I have not Dude, we got to getyou to drive one one day it was
a real race car.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Yeah, I got to give it a shot.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
We were actually talking about this.
You guys know, mila, we weretalking about it with him the
other day.
He gave me a ride in his 510,and I was like, dude, it's crazy
to think that most people can't, like they have to shift the
clutch, like when most like uslearning, like we learned how to
like time the throttle, sometransmission, everything,
everything could just shift inthe gears.
It's so crazy.
I would love to teach you,bella, or your dad could totally
help you out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
I got to ask him.
I'm sure he knows he's prettyold, so I hope he's watching.
Yeah, he definitely is.
I know Ryan just commentedsomething.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
He said, thor, how are the odds for the 500?
How are the odds for the 500?
How are the odds for the 500?
You know?
Um, like I said before, wegotta have a good day.
Come prepared.
There's a lot of good drivers,with jason mcneil, justin davis
sitting right behind or, I guess, got, I guess it's not sitting
right behind us anymore.
We qualify before this race now, but, um, uh, no, there's a lot
of, a lot of really talenteddrivers in our class and we, we

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just have to come prepared.
So the odds, I, I hope they're,I think they're hot yeah, I
hope they're high for you guystoo desert racing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
The odds always get adjusted during the race.
They can go high, low and thenthey can come right back.

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
I don't think they're consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Live betting and off-road racing is not a smart
idea.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
I will say this the never-give-up attitude that
these two have is a very, verybig thing to elevate those odds.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
We know you guys are hardworking and put a lot of
effort and time into such anawesome sport, but what do you
guys do outside of this?

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Jeremy.

Speaker 8 (01:35:31):
So, yeah, this is kind of just a hobby for me.
You know, racing has beensomething that's been a part of
my life for a long time.
My dad raced motorcyclesprofessionally motorcycles
professionally and then, um,when I started coming around, uh
started racing motorcyclesgrowing up and then got into
cars uh, when my dad got intocars way before I was around

(01:35:52):
actually and then um would racewith my brother and uh, so what
I do full-time is I'm a firemanand a paramedic, uh work for the
los angeles county fire, sothat's my everyday deal.
And yeah, just I'm fortunateenough to get to race with Turbo
Herbst Motorsports and ridearound in a 199 Industries race

(01:36:13):
truck.
So super grateful for theHerbst family, yeah that's
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
So racing is a great hobby of mine as well.
Grew up being a part of it,love it.
Being at these races a part ofit, love it it's.
Being at these races are themost fun you can have.
But I am currently, I would say, in the project management role
in our development group atTerribles and we kind of, I mean

(01:36:40):
, do a little bit of everything.
But that kind of sums it up.
But I do whatever I'm asked,but I'm more in the project
management right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Oh, I got a really good question, Bella, that I got
DM'd yesterday when they knewThor was going to be on the show
.
Where did the name Terriblesand the iconic cowboy come from?

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
So the name Terribles came from my great-grandpa.
Whenever he would open a storenext to a competitor in a new
town, they called him thatTerrible Herbst SOB, yeah, son

(01:37:22):
of a, b, and so he coined itTerrible Herbs and that's what
they ended up calling all theirstations and then, as of I think
I would say maybe eight yearsago, we got rid of the Herbs
because everybody, when they goto one of our stores, they say
we're going to Terribles, theyonly say we're going to Terrible

(01:37:44):
Herbs.
So we've really branded it asjust Terrible's now, which is
probably good, yeah, but the badguy, honestly I'm not quite
sure.
I think the bad guy came from acontest, maybe, or somebody
drew it.
I really don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
I don't know the true answer to that.
It fits perfect.
And then you got your guyB-More designing all the new
logos and all those new T-shirtsand stuff, just tearing it up
with the bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
I love it.
Shout out to B-More.
He has done an amazing job andall those videos behind you
Bella are from him and couldn'thave been done without him, and
George yeah that's super.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yeah, be more does a good job.
Hey, we're not.
We're not.
You know what you shouldinterview be more one of these
times, bella.
But uh, he's nominated for anEmmy again, so we hope he gets
it extremely, extremely,extremely talented.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Yes, Really cool.
I was always wondering why itwas called Terribles.
Yeah, because we would alwaysgo to the works races or Best in
Desert or the Mint 400.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
It's all around Nevada, everywhere we would stop
and yeah, but it's like theexact opposite, though, because
you go in there to get all kindsof delicious stuff, like
granola bars and sodas andwhatever you want, and you come
out and you feel exactlyopposite of terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
But my blood sugars feel terrible.
I'll tell you that.
Well, I do kind of want to talkabout what you've accomplished,
you know, outside of racing.
I know that you went to collegein San Diego.
That's pretty cool.
What have you applied to yourlife with the job that you do

(01:39:31):
and with racing from the degreethat you have?

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
San Diego was an amazing, amazing experience.
I loved it.
It was a great city.
I was sad to leave but excitedto come home.
City I I was sad to leave butexcited to come home.
Um, I, I do a lot of, I kind ofdo a lot of stuff outside of
racing and work and I uh try tobe a good friend and visit my
friends all the time and uh dothings and go to like back to

(01:39:58):
parker's and I'm sureeverybody's familiar with that
and go to outdoor activities,what that are not racing, that
are more like water sports,skiing, mountain biking,
anything like that.
I try to stay pretty busy.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
It's that whole work-life balance right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Yeah, exactly, and obviously work comes first
before racing, before anything,obviously work comes first
before racing, before anything.
So, but I've been veryfortunate in growing up in the
family that has provided for meand I want to give that back.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
That's super cool.
Well, and Jeremy puts a lot ofhard work in too.
Bill, like we've been talkingabout this whole show and, in
fact, your other show too, likeall of these things and the
reason that you want tointerview all these guests is
because they're such hardworkers and they have such good
attitudes, right, and that'ssomething that we can all learn.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Yeah, especially me, because growing up and like
having not having to butchoosing to work for my family
and family business and alsotrying to balance racing and
just kind of having that perfectbalanced life.
It does come with a lot of workand a lot of effort and just
kind of having that perfectbalanced life.
It does come with a lot of workand a lot of effort and a lot
of time.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
So being able to talk to someone that kind of has it
a lot more figured out than I doyeah, I was gonna say how do
you manage your time, jeremy,because you have a lot of stuff
going on as well.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
Um, yeah, I uh for the fire department.
Um, you know, as it's 24 hourshifts, so that does provide for
, you know, a decent time at athome.
Um, you know, obviously myfamily comes first and foremost
to me.
Um, you know, I'd walk awayfrom everything just to, you

(01:41:46):
know, be able to spend more timewith my family.
So the career that- I'm in givesme the opportunity to spend a
lot of time with my family aswell.
As you know, go do what I love,which is go in racing.
You know that's a little bit asto why I chose that career.
You know, obviously the benefitof helping people and

(01:42:06):
everything else is great, but uh, yeah, you know I used to to
work.
I worked in the off-roadindustry prior, um, you know,
and was just kind of gettingburnt out of it and going racing
wasn't as much fun, so kind oftaking a step away from it just
to not be surrounded by it allthe time.
Um, it gives you a lot moreexcitement when you are around
it and going to the races is alot more fun.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
Yeah, absolutely Bella.
I think that's a perfect segueto talk about family, because
your brother is the next personon the show, right he?

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
is yeah.
Being able to share a sport,especially that you have so much
passion for, with your familymembers makes it a lot easier,
because then it's like oh, I'mnot missing a family event to go
racing.
I'm going racing with my family.

Speaker 8 (01:42:50):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
Couldn't agree more.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
Grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
All right, gentlemen, thank you very much for coming
on the show and taking the timeout of your guys' busy schedule.
I cannot wait to see you guysin a couple weeks, I know.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Yeah absolutely Greatly appreciate it.
It was so nice talking to bothof you and just getting to learn
more about the industry, but Ihope that the next races go
pretty smooth for you guys.
And yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:43:18):
Appreciate you having us Thank you, yeah, shout out
to everybody at Terrible,terrible Herbert's motor sports
and one nine industries Uh,thank you so much for all that
they do.
Those guys are working on thetrucks nonstop, you know, which
gives us the opportunity to godo what we do.
So, um, you know, not just theguys in the shop, but, uh, you
know, guys like George and bemore that are able to produce

(01:43:38):
all this.
You know, all of our footageout to to everybody.
You know it's only making thesport better.
So, you know, thanks toeverybody that supports us and
is behind us.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 4 (01:43:51):
Dreamwork makes the dream work.
Boys, let's go.

Speaker 8 (01:43:53):
That's right Two in a row Appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Thank you guys, two in a row.

Speaker 8 (01:43:58):
See you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
See ya.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
I love this off-road community, Bella.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Like I can't tell you how much like my heart is
smiling.
I know I would say that wentpretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:44:09):
Well, for everything that's going on with the show I
mean, well, and literally everyshow that you've done so far, uh
, all right, is your brothergoing to join us on Instagram or
is he going to studio?
He?

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
bailed on me in the studio.
I think he got a little camerashy, but he should be on
Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:44:28):
Alright, let me see if I can get him on here real
quick.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
Yeah, no, it was super cool talking to Thor and
Jeremy, getting a differentperspective.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
I have never personally spoke to them, so but
Alright, let's see if we canget this young legend, cruz
Bouchard, on got the camera, butwe don't got him the cat away.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Cat was busy so cruz bouchard is 15 years old.
He works from earth.
He's from bandon, california.
He's been racing side by sidesince the young age of seven.
Um cruz has worked his waythrough the youth classes,
intermediate classes and is nowcompeting at a pro level in both
short course and desert racing.
So Cruz has got a lot ofchampionships under his belt and

(01:45:14):
a lot of wins in general.
But we're kind of here to justtalk about his Whoa.
Hold on, what's up, Cruz?

Speaker 7 (01:45:24):
Sorry, I'm struggling here.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
Did that feel kind of weird, you're having problems,
you're probably like that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:45:30):
All right, there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
I like it.
He's repping you, George.

Speaker 7 (01:45:34):
I know I wear this hat every day.
This is my hat.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
I saw Chase.
Chase had his on too.
He's trying to copy your style.

Speaker 7 (01:45:41):
I saw that he's always trying to copy my style.
I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (01:45:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
Thank you for repping dude, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Yeah, well, it is a little odd having Cruz on here,
but I'm glad that you could setapart some time from your busy
schedule.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Hey Bella, I want to say something real quick before.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
I don't think it's odd at all.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
I think this is fantastic because this goes
along exactly with the stuffthat we've been talking about
about family, about camaraderie,about, you know, love, support
mechanism, all of this stuff andyou guys spent a lot of time
together, so having him on theshow is awesome yeah, it's
pretty cool being able to, yeah,again, share the sport with a
sibling, but also kind of share.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
You know what the sport has brought me, which is
this podcast, so figured I couldbring both my brothers on here,
my actual blood brother and youknow the one that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
Pretty much twins, but I did.
I know you have a big, you knowyou're working on your racing
career and stuff, but you'realso kind of working on working
in the shop and kind of withparts and starting west coast
racing services.

Speaker 7 (01:46:48):
so kind of give us a rundown on that um, yeah,
working in the shop and reallywest coast racing services with
a lot of people I I really liketo spend my day with and have
spent spend and share time withthem in the shop and machining
parts and making parts forpeople and it's really all

(01:47:09):
in-house and kind of just Idon't know learning the whole
thing and seeing how everythinggets built and put together and
really the team it takes tobring it all in one piece.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
I think it's kind of cool too, bellalla, because I
was thinking about it the otherday like, um, everybody in the
shop, obviously it's your, yourfamily and and cruise and
everybody else that comes intothe shop and you get your
workers and stuff.
But it takes a special personand it tunes you up more like
now that cruise is working onthese parts and building these
parts.
He's going to get in the racecar, he's going to test these

(01:47:43):
parts, he's going to feel them alittle bit different, he's
going to provide feedbackdifferent than somebody that's
just an engineer, that's justmaking parts right.
So there's a lot ofcohesiveness that comes from him
learning at such a young agehow to do these things, because
it all meshes together at somepoint yeah, or even someone
that's just racing and notbuilding parts or not spending
time in the shop.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
There's two different perspectives.
You know the builder and thenthe driver, but when you have
both and you put them together,it kind of benefits you as a
maker of any part you want or adriver jeremy mcgrath said that
earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
He said that.
So a lot of these guys don'tknow how to feel or work on the
bikes right like.
That's what cruise is learningright now.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
It's amazing, yeah no , being able to understand how a
car functions, how it works andyou know how to tailor it to
your specific driving is prettybeneficial especially.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Is that hard for you cruise or is it easy to like
kind of understand all thatstuff?

Speaker 7 (01:48:37):
honestly it was I struggled bad with I would I'd
honestly just say, yeah, I knowwhat I'm talking about and I
have no clue what I'm talkingabout and then I'll go on Google
and research it five minuteslater.
But definitely a lot ofpeople's help in telling me what
and what not to know and whatto do, and that's really helped

(01:48:59):
me progress in how I feel my carand how I like really look at
everything and how I, you know,every time I go onto the track I
think, okay, is this on, isthis on?
I'd run every bolt in my headand I really it.
Yeah, it's definitely helped inmany ways are you a good
listener?

Speaker 4 (01:49:18):
you like asking questions, because I feel like
those are the things that you'regoing to gain the most from now
uh, I don't know if I'd say I'ma good listener, but I I do.

Speaker 7 (01:49:29):
I listen behind the door.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
I guess you could say I don't know if that's the
phrase, but I secretly listen,yeah yeah, I know what you mean,
because sometimes it takes alittle different processing
method, right like you ask thequestion and you're like I don't
know, and then it takes you acouple hours and you're like
well maybe it did make a littlebit of sense.
I honestly do that a lot too,because, um, you know, you think
you know, but maybe you didn't,and then you second guess

(01:49:52):
yourself.
But I think that the fact thatyou have an open mind and open
perspective is what will get youfurther yeah, it definitely.

Speaker 7 (01:49:59):
It definitely helps being able to see from other
people's perspective and reallyunderstand in different ways
yeah, yeah, I kind of want totalk about um.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
You know, we all know richard.
Richard is our mechanic.
But um, richard is not onlyyour mechanic, he's your friend
first of all, and also yourco-driver.
So having someone fulfill allthose roles, especially in one
program, one racing program,that's pretty cool to see,
explain that kind of friendshipyou got going on.

Speaker 7 (01:50:31):
Yeah.
So I pretty much see Richardevery single day of my life,
even on the weekends pretty much.
So he's pretty much family tome now, family to me now, and
it's uh, it's pretty cool to beable to see him every day and
even get to race with him everytime and talking to him and
seeing how many things I canlearn because of even his past

(01:50:52):
background he, I mean, he's beensent off with hundreds of teams
, I'm sure and the knowledge hehas and what I'm really happy
that he can share with me isit's a very good thing and I'm
very thankful for it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Do you see him like more than you see your sister
and your mom and dad?

Speaker 7 (01:51:11):
Honestly, I do Probably, I probably do honestly
.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
No he definitely does .
But no, that is pretty cool, weare definitely very lucky.
But no, that that is prettycool, we are definitely very
lucky.
I would say a lot of peoplehave kind of like not not a lot
of people, but some people haveflowed in and out of our pit
crew.

Speaker 7 (01:51:33):
But, um, you know, to have like a pretty good solid
lineup now, especially likemoving forward, because things
are getting more serious for youand yeah, having those people
here too, it's usually theconsistent lineup of all the
people that we know and we cancount on being there, and it's

(01:51:54):
thankful for those people.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
Yeah for sure I did want to give you the option to
talk about your future in theracing.
But if you want to give us asneak peek, you can.
If not, that's cool, but tellus what you got going on yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
So, um, we do have some big things coming up.
I'm I do want to say it, but Idon't really know, honestly.
You know I'm not fully.
I mean, I am familiar with thesituation and what is happening,
but I don't think me or theteam are ready to, I guess,
fully announce it as in what weare coming up.

(01:52:33):
It'll be soon, for sure, withinthe next six to seven months,
it will be a for sure thing.
But I will say he did join thelive a little bit ago.
You guys, if you get bored, youcan scroll through and try to
find him.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
Big things.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
For sure.
Well, we're glad to hear it.
George, you got anything.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
No, I just think it's so cool that you guys are doing
this and you guys are expandingthings.
Like Bella, you're doing such agreat job and you know,
inviting your brother on uh isis super cool.
We know that Cruz is a littlebit camera shy, but he's been
opening up a lot and I thinkit's been pretty awesome to be
able to see him expand on it,especially with maybe some of
these future plans that we don'tknow what they are.

(01:53:18):
I'm sure some people do hey Cruz, I was gonna ask you, though,
do you like, what do you do whenyou're not at the shop?
I know you spend a lot of timethere, but like, obviously you
know, the whole golf thing cameup with Jeremy McGrath Like
that's that whole work-lifebalance that we were just
talking about with Thor.
Like, what else do you guys do?

Speaker 7 (01:53:35):
Yeah, so other than me going to the shop pretty much
every day, you know I don'treally golf that much, honestly,
believe it or not, but uh, andwhen I do it's definitely a fun
time.
I feel like the first one totwo holes aren't very, I mean,
they're golfy but they're notgolfing.
The last, the last nine, ten,however many we decide to do,

(01:53:58):
are mainly golf cart driving.
But uh, other than that, it's,it's uh, riding, riding around I
guess, and really going to therace shop yeah, it takes a lot
of, though.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Like a lot of uh what do you call it?
Patience and listening andunderstanding.
Like when you have that, uh, uh, what do you call it?
Golf is not racing right, it'sthe exact opposite.
Like, so complete opposite itteaches you so much yeah you,
the golf cart's.

Speaker 7 (01:54:28):
Good though it's something to drive while you're
having that patience time awayfrom racing he likes being more
of the caddy than he does theactual golfer yeah, I suggest a
club to use when I'm drivingaround that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
I personally go golfing with him again what
sorry?
Oh, all right, my bad well, Iwould say that wraps up my
questions for you um can we givecruise the opportunity to ask
us a question?

Speaker 7 (01:55:03):
oh, I'm not a good question asker.
I don't know what I'd ask.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
Well, like what about ?
Oh, what would you ask BryceMenzies if you could?

Speaker 7 (01:55:15):
Oh, endless questions .

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
Yeah, I'm saying like I know you want to drive a
Mason, but he's not going to letyou do that.
So what's the next question?

Speaker 7 (01:55:23):
Honestly the next one , honestly what the next
question would be when can I getin your co-driving seat and
take me for a spin?
Oh, in the mason.

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
You're gonna, you're gonna kick oran out of there yep
or no at the co-drive.

Speaker 7 (01:55:36):
Co-drive, actually, that's.
They'll be kicking out.
Yeah, I'm to borrow it from him.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
Perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
But that'd be my question.

Speaker 4 (01:55:47):
I got to sit in a mason yesterday.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
Did you?

Speaker 4 (01:55:51):
I wasn't.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
I mean we weren't moving.
We were standing still, but itwas still awesome.
Yeah, it's still a good feeling, yeah For sure.
It was cool, though, man.

Speaker 7 (01:56:06):
I'm glad that you got to come on the show.
Yeah, I am too.
Thank you for inviting me.
I know I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
But I'm glad I got to ask some questions, kind of get
a sneak peek of what you gotfor the future and I'll see you
in like 15 minutes at home yeah,I'll see you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
Cruz is holding out, though.
Thanks, buddy.
Thanks for getting us all ampedup.
We got to wake up.

Speaker 7 (01:56:24):
Whatever you're doing .
Yeah, Thank you guys.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
Hold on.

Speaker 7 (01:56:33):
Joseph, what's your favorite song right now?
Right now, dude, you guys knowwho Men at Work is Down Under.
Yeah, that's it.
I don't even know what to say.
You got the trumpet playing.
I that's it.
I don't even know what to say.
You got the trumpet playing.
I know it's odd, huh, it putsyou in like a zone, it's nice, I
think we got the clip now,bella, we're just going to put

(01:56:56):
him on the show and just playfrom the land down.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
Yep, I'm down, that's the song Later, homie, see you.

Speaker 7 (01:57:00):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:57:03):
Thank you guys.
Thank you, Bella, you're doingsuch a great job.
I think this is fantastic.

Speaker 6 (01:57:07):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
Cruz got it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Yeah, it was pretty cool having him on for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
Yeah, it is cool.
It's a vibe Dude, that song Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
Oh guess we taught him that Really you did.
Oh yeah, I teach him all thegood music.

Speaker 6 (01:57:28):
Oh man, you guys, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:32):
Yeah Well, I think it's time for closing, but I
would say we had some prettygood conversations with some
pretty cool people.
You know some.
Most of these I started offwith this is like the first time
I'm actually talking to theperson on phone call, it's just
like so I think you did a reallygood job.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
And like uh, one of the things that I was thinking
before we got on this too waslike uh, I don't know like we're
kind of throwing you in thefire right, like you didn't know
what to expect, but you reallyjust adjusted to it and you did
a great job, and I think that'ssomething that you can use to
learn for the future.
So you're doing a really killerjob, you're already on episode

(01:58:12):
eight.
You bypass number seven.
You're like going like, soanything from here is up and up
Right, and you did a great jobtoday, even though you had to
handle it all on your own, sokudos to you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
Thank you so much.
I greatly appreciate thisopportunity.
I mean, it had to be a littledifferent this time, but I think
we got it figured out, andmaybe it was just a blessing in
disguise for me to do somethingon my own.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Totally All right.
Go get some food, get somedinner.
Thank you very much, Bella.
Thank you All right, we'll seeyou guys later.
If you guys want to, we willactually tell direct message
everybody that won the hats.
So you guys will get a messagefrom the Dirt Life show and then
Maxis or Jamie McGrath ormyself will send you a hat.

(01:58:57):
So good job to all the winners.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Thank you guys for watching.
I hope you guys wereentertained, as I am, but we
will be back for episode numbernine, so I'll see you guys soon.
Bye, bella Out.

Speaker 4 (01:59:12):
All right.
So I just want to thank all thesponsors before we take off.
So thank you to the guys at KMCWheels, Maxxis Tires, Motul,
Shock Therapy, JL Audio,Evolution, Power Sports, Doliger
Racing Products and VisionCanopy.
We really appreciate everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:59:27):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show.
See you next week.
We'll be right back.

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