KOH Recap - Chaney, Polvoorde, Gray, McFayden - The Dirt Life

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back everybody.
We skipped January, but we'recoming strong in February.
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show,Bella's Corner, Episode 5.
I am Bella Richard, your host.
This is my co-host, GeorgeHamill.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hi guys, yep, we're going to see you guys after.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
KOH, that was a rough three weeks.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
It was.
Koh has the Modos, they havethe UTVs, they have the Rock
Race, desert Race.
There's so much to unpack.
We're just going to give you alittle bit of a rundown of what
happened.
We got some awesome guestsright, bill.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we got a great lineup.
Before we get into it, weshould probably think our
sponsors.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, let's give them a rundown of what's happened on
the show tonight.
First then we'll thank thesponsors.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, for sure.
So we got Kyle Chaney, sadieGray, christopher Pavordi and
Michael McFadden.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, so some awesome guests and all have different,
all took part in differentdisciplines, right, but there
was some very, very just, Ithink, massive as far as the
off-road world goes performancesthat will probably go down in
history like changing the waythat people see rock racing and
desert racing.
So it'll be cool to talk toguys like Kyle Chaney and

(01:23):
everybody else about it too.
Everybody requesting to join.
So let's go through thesponsors super fast and then
we'll get going.
All right why don't you gofirst.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, yeah, so we want to thank KMC Wheels, motul
and Evolution Power Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, and thanks to the guys at Maxis too.
They were a really, really hugehelp.
Over there at KOH man, we hadsuch a great time talking to
those guys.
A lot of those guys out therewere running rockzillas Sweet
tire to be running out there.
Thanks to the guys over atShock Therapy, you can use the
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Thanks to the guys at JL Audio,bringing you all the heat

(01:58):
whenever you want to impresseverybody with some music.
Thanks to the guys at ZollingerRacing Products.
We really appreciate them aswell.
And, like Bella said, everybodyelse All right, belle, do you
want me to get Kyle on right nowfor you?
Yes, all right.
Let's get going here A littlebit of background.
Bella had to come home becauseshe obviously has some stuff to
do, but I was out there at KOHdoing so much stuff with

(02:22):
everybody and to be out therejust watching Kyle achieve all
the greatness that he did waspretty cool.
So, Belle, give Kyle a goodintro.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, so Kyle Chaney is a factory driver for Ken Am
from Ohio.
He has many experience in manydifferent tracks and off-road
vehicles, but had an insane runat the 2024 King of Hammers UTV
race, so we should probably diveinto that.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, welcome Kyle Chaney to the show.
Kyle, I don't know if you know,but Bella has her own segment
on the show, so she's going todo most of the talking today for
you.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That's great Perfect.
She probably knows more than Ido.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Nice to meet you, Kyle.
Yeah, you too.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Dude KOH like wild is the only word I can think of.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah.
Koh is always wild I meananytime KOH is brought up in
anything.
You just think of craziness.
If you haven't been there, it'slike somewhere that anybody
that's interested in offering itall needs to go to KOH.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Dude, yeah, totally, and there's so much to unpack
too, right, but maybe tell uslike, give us, just give us a
background, like what classesdid you race, and then we're
going to unpack some stuff afterthat.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So you know I mainly go to KOH for the Rock Race, the
4900 UTV race, and while we'rethere, we just started racing
the 4400 race, which is wherethey race the big trucks, and
this year we decided to do theDesert Race Ball.
So we've done it the lastcouple of years, but I didn't
have to put the great showing inthat we ended up hitting a bush
and flipping over.

(03:52):
But it actually ended up being ablessing, because we broke some
parts.
Doing that we needed to likekind of see for the Rock Race
Like we wouldn't have changedthem if we wouldn't have broke
them in that race, and itdefinitely took us out of the
Rock Race.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, so that was the most important thing, for you
was obviously focusing on theRock Race.
And then so, just so everybodyknows, kyle was victorious in
the 4900 class, which was aninsane.
I mean, that by itself was ahuge battle, before we even
talked about the 4400 stuff.
Yeah, so we, yeah so we decidedto race the new Maverick R this
year and you know we didn'treally know much about it.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I know Phil and a couple other guys, the guys at
the Ball hog, they had good luckwith it, but you know we didn't
know much about it.
So we went out and did sometesting earlier this year and I
was like man, this could be areally good car for here and
Tana Amagreen.
And then they we kind of had tolike force them in the lead in
the race.
They didn't know for sure ifthe transmission would be good

(04:50):
in the Rocks and after we drovein the Rocks, man, this thing's
awesome.
Like we definitely want to racethis.
Definitely better in the desertthan the next three.
You know, in the Rocks it'sdefinitely harder to drive.
But you know I knew that.
You know the advantage we wouldhave in the desert would
definitely help us get to theRocks early.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy to see the evolution of
the side by sides too.
I mean, like we did see somepeople driving the older car and
then you chose to drive thenewer car.
It was kind of like I don'twant to say a toss up, but it
was different.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, it was definitely like staying on the
safe side of your race, the X3,because you know that's three.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
You know shoot.
It's been out for seven years.
We know exactly whatever issuesthat it's had or it's been
resolved.
You know this is our newplatform and you know I
definitely didn't want to lose acrown because of it.
You know like I was definitelyon the defensive for a while.
You know winning three in a rowand definitely wanting four

(05:46):
hammers championships in a row?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I definitely was weighing heavy in the back of my
mind.
Dude, four championships.
Can you believe that I was just?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
going to say yeah, you have experience from winning
the last three years, sojumping into a new car and
trying it for the first time andwhen you have that fourth win
on the line is a pretty big deal, but it turned out pretty solid
for you.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yeah, definitely paid off.
But you know, not everybody'sout there wanting the crown and
you know I knew my trust in thecan and in that R and you know I
knew we could get to the finishline at first.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Bella, do you think there's more pressure if you
were in a position like himgoing for a four-peat, or do you
think it's like, just like, ok,I'm just going to go do my
thing?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Oh, I don't know.
I think it's different foreveryone.
For me it's more pressure, forsure.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, I've talked to Kyle a bunch and I know Kyle
actually really thrives underthe pressure.
Was it pretty?
I don't know like, how did youdeal with all of that, kyle?
I know Bella is a pretty bigproponent of understanding how
people deal with their emotionsand how they adjust for race
environments.
How do you?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
So it definitely was this year.
Like I usually have time tolike prepare for the other races
, I had no time.
Like literally all my time wasspent on the R and trying to win
that 4900 race.
Like I totally neglected the4400 race.
I didn't pre-run lap three of4400 one time.
I didn't even get in my 4400car to drive it until I drove it

(07:15):
up to qualifying, you know soit's like, and I didn't see
Terry, my co-pilot.
He didn't get in the car untilthe day of the race.
Like it was, you know, we spentall our efforts on that R and
trying to win 4900.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, that's a lot of focus though, especially, like
you said, because he was outthere for so long.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Right, yeah, there was other stuff to focus on.
So I mean I'm glad that your4900 race went well, but I mean
I think we got a lot to talkabout with the 4400 race too
Sure.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, actually, before we talk about the 4400
race, did you have any standoutmoments of the whole couple
weeks while we were out therethat were, I don't want to say
not in the 4400 race, but thatwere minus the because dude,
that race, we could talk aboutthat for years.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Like did you have any standout moments that you think
were personally good?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Again, the UTV race.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I just think over the whole weeks that you were out
there because there was a lot ofshit going on.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, yeah.
And then a lot went on.
It was mainly man.
We just put in our work and wejust kept driving and testing
that R and figuring out justlittle problems that you know
that could take us out of therace and we would just fix all
of them.
So it's not like we knew everylittle bug before we got out
there.
I mean, the R is definitely asuperior machine and you know

(08:38):
the issues that it had were veryminor.
But you know, when it comes towinning KOH you can have no
issues.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
That's a really good point to bring up.
And so did the race end upgoing pretty smooth for the
4900?
.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I mean we had one flat, we had two flat tires,
but you know that wasself-inflicted.
I did that to myself and youknow we got out and changed the
one and then I ended up gettinganother flat and I knew we could
run it to the end.
We had a tire spine in thereand I knew we could run it to
the end and yeah, it was totallygone by the end of the race.

(09:12):
But I figured by time westopped and got it changed and I
wanted to get to outer limitsand spooners really before the
rain started coming down hard.
So that played into it too.
The weather definitely playedinto me not stopping and getting
a tire.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, I totally forgot about the weather out
there.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Oh dude, it was slippery for all those things.
The weather rocks just superslick if you had to go through
them.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
when after I felt really bad for some of the guys
that had to do any of theoff-camber trails after it
rained.
I can only imagine how bad theywere, Dude the timing on that
was like impeccable.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hey, did you see the comment that just came in for
Kyle?
Somebody said can we just talkabout hunting?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Can we just talk about hunting?

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I could talk about hunting for hours.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Wasn't, it Didn't you have some questions about
hunting?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I did, we were.
Before I got onto the show.
I was talking to my dad like,oh, we're going to interview
Kyle and the first thing hebrought up was, oh, hunting.
Yeah, honey, you should ask himabout that.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
A lot of people want to know my hunting secrets.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
What deer Mule or whitetail?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Whitetail oh gosh.
There you go.
Yeah, I'll let him know.
Have you already scheduled yournext hunting trip?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Oh, I'd nonstop been thinking about hunting.
So like right when I got home,like I'm going to start doing
some shed hunting.
You know the antlers, some ofthe deer fall off or whatever.
So we'll go around and look fortheir antlers and see which
ones made it through the yearand put a plan together for next
season.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Dude that's a whole process.
Your dad liked hunting, though,oh he loves it, you guys will
get along very well.
You see, you probably missedhunting while you were spending
all your time out in the JohnsonValley desert Dude.
All right, so let's just let'stry to unpack some of this 4,400
grace, because I think all ofus were on our seats.
I want to first, you know,thank the KOH guys for putting

(11:01):
on such a great broadcast.
It was really, really cool tobe able to follow along and to
watch you guys during that wholeevent and being able to see I
guess you call it the storylinesand everything happened up to
the way that you crossed thefinish line.
Some of it was given to you byother people breaking.

(11:21):
Some of it was just flat out,just killing it.
Some of it was just straighttalent, and some of it was also
taken away from you too.
There wasn't anything that wasleft on the table.
It was just an insane event.
So give us your I don't knowdebrief or background on what it
felt like from the driver'sseat.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, man, really from the driver's seat.
Like I said, I didn't put anywork into that race that's
usually not like me to not putin my homework and my time Like
so we were so focused and like,really, from when the sun came
up to the sun went down, andafterwards we were just focused
on that R, like making sure thatthing finished and we won the

(12:02):
4900 race.
Like so we didn't get, I didn'tget to pre run any lap, three
trails for 4400.
Like, I totally neglected 4400and you know I definitely won't
do that again.
But yeah, so we, we just didn'tknow the trails, you know, I
mean there's no, you know noexcuses, but you know, in 4900
we missed that uptown trail also, which was, you know, a three

(12:27):
minute penalty, and people thinkthat that was like some rock
trail.
It wasn't.
It was literally just like 150yards of a trail that Dave put
in off the main trail and wedidn't even know we were missing
it because, like, the line wasright next to it and it was
actually longer to stay on themain trail.
We didn't even know we were offthe trail and then I missed it

(12:47):
and it was only, you know the Iguess it was 21 seconds faster
to stay on the main trail likewe did, and that's why we got a
three minute and 30 minutepenalty, or three minute and 30
second penalties, because it was21 seconds.
The advantage to take the trailthat we took was 21 seconds.
So, and it's not like it was ahard rock trail, like you never,
would never even need to gointo low gear, it was just a

(13:09):
wash, like there was nothing init.
So you know, a lot of peoplewere thinking I, you know, we
took it for an advantage.
There was no advantage, like Iwould definitely rather have my
three minutes and 30 secondsback.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
It was just we didn't know.
And in the 4400 race, after thefirst lap, when we missed it
because we'd have to do it againon lap three, they said they
were going to disqualify me ifwe missed that trail.
And we didn't know where thefreaking trail was and they told
us the mile marker.
So literally Terry's watchingthe mile markers as we're doing
lap three and we missed it againand I ended up like stopping

(13:44):
and turning down into the trailjust to get it.
So we didn't go backwards onthe trail but we missed the
entrance, turned down, you know,to end up driving up it, but we
had no idea where this trailwas.
It's not like we were trying tomiss this trail.
I mean, like I said, I'd ratherhave my three minutes and 30
seconds back.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, and you don't really even need like.
I mean, terry knows that placelike the back of his hand, so
like if anybody was going tofind it it would be him anyway.
So I could totally see the yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And it was like a trail like you wouldn't even
think to do, Like literally theline was right next to it, the
main trail.
Dave just took us off the maintrail at a corner.
So when your GPS, when you'regoing around this corner, it
looks like you're staying on themain trail, but Dave has it
going off and like you couldn'tsee another trail going off.
So that's why most of us allmissed it.

(14:32):
I think like third of the UTVsmissed it, Like half of the
4400s missed it.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Like it was when we were going through the logs.
They called penalty logs orwhatever it was.
Like dude, it was just litteredwith people and I was like so
it was like a trick, trick oranother thing.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, it wasn't like something like we tried to do to
make an advantage or anything.
Now in the 4400 where I got the49 minute penalty was people
think we missed the whole trail?
There too we didn't like usackwasn't even going to penalize me
because I was within the rules,like we never went more than 50
foot off the line.
We hit the VCP, we just wentaround this, the rock pinch,

(15:10):
which you know.
In the driver's meeting this ismy fault too Dave said all the
bypasses were open.
So I was under the under the Iwas under the impression that
all the bypasses were open.
Well, apparently, after thedriver's meeting was over, there
was a question asked about arock pinch and check me out, and

(15:30):
Dave said you have to staybetween the rocks and you know I
this is my fault I should havebeen closer and paid attention
but I didn't.
So I literally thought all therocks were open.
Plus, I didn't even know wherethis rock pinch was.
I didn't even know we were incheck me out.
Like I didn't do any rock threetrails.
So it's not like I was trying tocheat or do anything, I was
just I drove up there and themain trail was to go around the

(15:53):
thing and, like I said, I didn'tknow it was that rock pinch.
So once after the race theytold me I'm like, okay, you know
.
And then they showed me, youknow, the day's video where he
said and they're like you know,we're you stack wasn't going to
file anything against me becauseI was within the rules.
But the only way for them tofile a penalty was if somebody
else filed a red card and thenthe red card.

(16:14):
Then they could go back toDave's meeting and say well,
dave, dave said to stay inbetween it, even though it's not
in the actual rules of hammerKing.
You know I was still within allthe rules of hammer King.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Besides what Dave said, so you know and it's
things that I think we should weshould talk to Bella about here
is because, like a lot of theyounger kids, when they hear
stuff like this, they don'treally grasp the accountability
portion of it and I want to makea big point of this, bella is
that him, as a racer, is he'sbeing very accountable for his
mistakes.
Right Like this is a massivething that anybody can learn

(16:47):
about.
Professional racing.
Here is Kyle is takingaccountability for the things
that he thinks that he is a fallfor, so that he can fix them
going forward.
Anybody can learn from this,whether it's racing or whatever.
This is a really really goodpersonality trait to have,
because he's not blaming it onanybody else.
He didn't say Dave was wrong.
He didn't say anything likethat.
He's making sure that, nomatter what happens, he's just

(17:08):
going to do better next year forhimself and for all of his
sponsors.
Yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Not only that but it makes you a better driver too,
if you're open minded tolearning more and taking
accountability for your mistakes.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, I appreciate that and everybody makes
mistakes, and you know I said Ijust didn't know.
So after the race, I mean, whenthey said that you know I was
going to have a penalty, youknow, and they showed me what
happened, and you know I'm like,yeah, I did, I went around that
rock pinch.
And you know they showed me thevideo where Dave said you had
to stay in between I'm like,yeah, I was wrong.
I'm like, whatever penaltyyou'll give me, I will take it.

(17:41):
And so the reason I got such ahuge penalty was one of the guys
flipped in there.
So it's 10 times the amount ofgain, which was usually the guys
, the top guys, that made itthrough.
So what they do is they takelike the five guys that are
around you.
So it was like curry and youknow, whatever the other top
guys were around me, they tookthe average of those guys going

(18:03):
through and then they times itby 10.
Most of them made it throughwithin a minute or two, so like
it should have been like one ortwo minutes times 10.
But what happened was a guyflipped in there and was there
for 24 minutes.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh, was that one of the top guys?
Was that where he?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
flipped.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Oh yeah because he was stuck there for a while.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, 24 minutes.
So they took his time and addedit into the overall time and it
ended up being like fourminutes and sometimes 10.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
So that's done a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I get it, but that's a kick in the nuts, I
mean that's the way I guess therule states, and it is what it
is.
I mean, they needed 30 minutesto get me off the podium and
that 49 minute penalty wasenough.
But you know what?
I didn't want a podium anyway.
I didn't put in the work forthis race.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Do you want to?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
win.
I want to win and I don't wantto battle.
I don't want to just winbecause these dudes are breaking
.
I want to go out there.
I didn't have my car set upright.
We were not on pace to win thatrace.
If I win that race next year, Iwant it to be because we won.
We deserved it, we battled withthe best and we won, not
because all the top guys broke.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Well, dude, I get it, but as from a bystander just
watching, I tell you, man, itlooked like you guys were
working your ass off to get upthere.
I mean the competition that youhad was no slouches.
I mean those guys did haveincidents and they had stuff
happen to them, but that wastheir own doing as well.
We're talking aboutaccountability here, right?
All those racers would say thesame thing, like damn it, I gave

(19:34):
it up because I did this.
Like Curry would say the samething, like all of these
different things and for us asan excitement thing, like
watching the race, there was avery, very big crowd that was
going no effin' way Like Kylecould actually do this, because
there was a lot of times when wewere like, eh, I don't know,
the big trucks got him the bigtruck and then all of a sudden

(19:55):
it just starts creeping in andthen we're like, wait a second,
like Kyle's got it.
So seeing that from the outsideperspective is different than
yours.
I'd like to know when did itdawn on you and Terry that you
actually had a chance?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
When we came through pit two on lap three and Curry
was in there and right beforethat we just passed one of the
Gomez's, flipped over on UpperBig Johnson and I'm like, and my
guy said, curry's in the pitand he's not coming out.
He's like you guys keep going,you're winning this thing.

(20:30):
And by then my front shockswere completely blown and he
really ends up catching uscoming down out of limits and he
honks and I just pull over LikeI wasn't trying to get in his
way or anything, and I'm likewell, healy just won this race
and we ended up coming to thetop of the hill.
My shock blows, we're headingback to town and there's Healy

(20:52):
off to the side of the track.
I'm like, oh my god, like we'rephysically leading this race,
like I didn't know what washappening behind me, but like we
need to get this thing to thefinish line.
And that's when I knew, likewhen we passed Lauren and my
shocks up past my head and I'mlike resolution is going to be

(21:13):
pretty freaking tough.
Like we just can't throw itaway Like this.
We're definitely doingsomething pretty cool.
And I was just happy to be backto Hammer Town once we got down
to resolution.
Like I was just so happy to beback, like I said, we missed
that one rock pinch.
I mean we still did 230, notsix miles of the nastiest rocks
like God put on this earth andno one can take that away from

(21:36):
me and Terry.
But like I said, when I winthis race I want it to be
because we were the best.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, dude, that's exactly spoken like a true racer
, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's definitely the whole mindset change during the
middle of the race that props toyou for being able to do that,
because not a lot of people knowhow to do that.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Maybe we should ask Kyle, too, what it was like
listening to Terry too, becauseTerry was part of the
conversation and he was in thecar too.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah.
So anytime that I'm in the carwith Terry, like I just have way
more confidence, especiallywhen we get to the rocks.
Like I know that I can dowhatever I want in the rocks
Because if I mess up, Terrycould get me out of it.
Like the guy's just so goodoutside the car, Like he makes

(22:28):
me a better driver when we're inthe rocks for sure.
Like there's nothing I can't do.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
JP actually just mentioned it.
Right now too, Bella, what didyou say?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
He said how about that?

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Sheer and Cade.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Sheer and Cade pass.
Kyle squeezed through like amouth.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah, man, and that's a place of outer limits.
You would never even think ofgoing down Like I've looked at
that for years and like, oh,that's not possible.
But when Terry was out of thecar and they were both parked
there, it didn't even cross mymind.
Terry's like you'll fit rightthrough there, and it never
nothing in my mind said that'snot possible.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
That's some serious confidence in your Kodak, or
your Winchman, as they call himsometimes.
That's super cool to see,though, like having him over
there.
You're just like, yeah, we gotit.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, that's really definitely a confidence booster
having him over there,especially in the rocks, yeah,
all right, but we got sevenminutes.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is there certain specific things that you want to
talk about, like maybe mindsetstuff, to get information from
Kyle so that you can pass it onto some of the younger
generation?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, for sure.
I did have one question.
Sometimes we can losemotivation, even with the sport
that we love the most, likeracing.
What do you do to regain yourstrength after a race if it
didn't go as the way you planned?
It Kind of like this one.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Well, to tell you the truth, I gain way more from my
losses than I would, or than Ido any win, like when I lose, or
when you're down on yourselfand you're driving home and
you're like man, I just Iwouldn't have done this or I
wouldn't have done this.
It makes you think.

(24:05):
Well then, what are you goingto do to change that for next
race?
Don't let it happen twice.
If it happens once, shame onyou.
Shame on it happens twice,shame on you.
Just don't let your mistakeskeep happening, and I see a lot
of racers do that.

(24:25):
They have the same mistake overand over again.
It's like you need to go backto the drawing board and whether
it's different parts you need,or if you've got to spend more
time studying or whatever needsto happen, you can't give up on
it.
And to win races, everythinghas to go as planned.

(24:45):
You can't have one little issue.
So if you keep having theselittle issues, even though
they're not big issues, it'lltake you out of races and I
think just keep pushing anddon't let it get you down,
because not everybody can win.
There's only one winner andeverybody wants that spot.
So what are you going to dodifferent than that person to

(25:07):
get it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, so remember when we talked about progress,
Bella and always moving forward.
That's exactly what he'stalking about there, because
he's not thinking about the past, he's thinking about fixing the
mistakes and moving forward.
That's pretty cool, man.
I think that that's some reallygood advice, especially for the
youngsters out there.
Hey, what did you guys eat whenyou were on the lake bed?
Because there wasn't.
Like all the dude, I ate tacosthe whole time, which was good,

(25:29):
but still I wish that I hadsomething else.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
The taco stands there .
Some of them are really good,but no, we had Brian Fulcher,
the guy that runs the teammomentum that I'm on.
He is like an amazing chef andhe had us dinner every night.
I mean, we ate freaking steaksand pork chops, and dinner was
not something that we ate, justmacaroni and cheese and

(25:53):
hamburger.
It's like we had really goodfood.
He definitely took care of usout there.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
But that's huge too.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Just being someone feeding you out.
There is huge.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yep, I agree, dude, especially because, well, you
are so focused, like stuff canfall aside.
You can miss dinner, miss lunch, whatever it is.
Hey, I wanted to say thanks toBlake too for supplying all
those photos.
He just chimed in too and saidthat.
And then somebody else saidLaboufadora.
Yep, laboufadora too.
Man, I am so impressed, kyle.

(26:23):
I left KOH thinking to myselfthat this year, even though your
goal was not achieved, it was amark in I don't know history
sounds so dramatic, right, Ifeel like I'm on the Discovery
Channel when I say it, but itreally was a mark in the books
to be able to say the sport ischanging because of the

(26:46):
professionalism of drivers andthe level of the vehicles that
they can drive now, and I thinkthat you, as the driver that
achieved that, can understandwhat I'm saying with those words
.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Oh, absolutely.
I mean there's a lot of guysthat are fast out there.
A lot of people are fast.
It's just not a whole lot ofpeople are good because they
break.
I mean a lot of people can gofast, qualify good, do all this
stuff, but to finish a race andkeep your car together and know
the limits of your machine,that's a different story.

(27:18):
But these machines now are morecapable than they used to be,
so it's definitely changing,like you said.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, and I think it's going to be like no matter
what, people get upset, right,they don't like change, they
don't like progress, all thisstuff.
To me, that is 110%.
The best part about off-roadracing is that we can see all
this shit happen right in frontof us and we can look at all the
different changes.
I don't know if you agree,bella, but that is so exciting
for me.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah, jp Perez said the golf cart game is on the
rise because of Kyle.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It's because a lot of people, but we got Kyle on the
show, so he did a great job atKOH man.
Hey, you got anything else youwant to say?
We only got a couple of minutesleft.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, not really.
I just, you know, it's stillkind of crazy to me.
You know, all the people thatwere there, and even like people
that didn't know, like, what mypenalties really were, like
still standing behind me, like,and people literally saying that
I missed all these trails andall these VCPs and stuff, like I
don't even think I missed anyVCPs, like it was just I just

(28:20):
missed that uptown trail, whichwasn't even really a trail.
But you know, I still hadpeople backing me, even though
they didn't know, like, like.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's because you're doing it the right way, man.
Like you're accountable.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
That means you're honest.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
That means you're forthcoming, like all of that
stuff makes a massive differenceand that means that when you,
when you do win the race, it'sgoing to mean that much more to
all those fans that are stickingbehind you.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Well, thank you, saul them and all you guys for
watching, and you know everybodythat you know, believes that a
golf cart can can do this.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Can do it, hey.
So on the way home, how manytimes did you kick yourself and
be like, oh, I could have donebetter there.
I could have done better there,cause it was a long drive home?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Never, not once.
No, because I didn't put in thework.
Man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a manof putting in the work and I
didn't deserve to win that race.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah.
Well what about next year?
What are your plans for nextyear?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Oh, that's already started, but that's already be
gone.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You know what he's doing, right?
If you ever ask him again, he'sgoing to say I'm there to win.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm there to win.
Hey, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
dude, we really appreciate it.
Do you want to thank anybodyelse while you're here?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, and just thanks , annie, I'm not my whole team.
I mean it takes a wholefreaking crew to, you know, to
get through KOH.
You know there's a lot of mixedfeelings and opinions and all
kinds of stuff that goes on outthere, you know, between
mechanics and you know, justjust to everybody else, just so
much that goes on and it takes awhole team, and you know a

(29:51):
whole team, to be strong andstick together.
So thanks to them.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Thank you very much.
We really appreciate it, dude.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Thank you Can't wait to see you at the races next
time, guys.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, see you later, later, bye.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Well did your machine ?
Just beep or no.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yep, that was me.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Do you need to take a break or are you good?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, we're good.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Dude.
The amount to unpack there waslike just so cool.
And one of the one of the mainthings that I like and I said it
while we were talking to Kylewas the accountability portion
of it.
When you're accountable foranything that you do,
accountable for the things thatyou eat that are healthy or not
healthy for you.
If you're accountable for thosethings, that means that you can
always make it better, andthat's why he's in a human being

(30:30):
that excels at whether it'shunting, whether it's racing,
whether it's business because ofthat personality trait.
So I strongly recommend thatanybody that was listening and
unpacking all that informationsticks to those morals too.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I think it also like helps build a lot of
respect from outside people too,because when someone looks at
someone like, oh, you can takeaccountability for your.
You know your actions or yourmistakes.
Like you, you gain a lot ofrespect from a lot of different
people yeah, 100%, all right,who's next?
We got Chris.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Pivori on.
All right, you want to talk toChris?
Let's see, did he alreadyactually request us here?
Let's see.
Oh no, let's see if we can getChris on here.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah.
So Chris Pivori is 23 years oldfrom Hemet, California, and
recently just took his firsttrophy truck win at the King of
Hammers Desert Challenge.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Dude, he was ripping.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah, absolutely ripping.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
And we all see, is he on here?
Not yet.
We got to see him live too,because he had the Starscream
kit.
Oh, so we got to see him liveand actually kick him butt out.
There was super cool to be ableto see that.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yes, see me.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
No, I can't see you, I can only hear you.
We can hear you.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Oh shoot Technology.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Are you good?
Did I invite you wrong or?

Speaker 5 (31:55):
No, it's showing me.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
So will you jump off and then jump back on?
Yeah, one second.
Ok, cool, we can hear him.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
We can't see him.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Could you see him, Zach?
Oh, you could.
We just couldn't see him on ourend.
I wonder if something was wrongwith the app.
I hope we don't have to restartthis thing.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Everybody else is.
I can see him, I can see him.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, everybody else is.
They can see him, so I don'tknow what the deal is.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I don't know, maybe our app is glitching out or
something.
I don't see Chris evenrequesting to join on our end.
There he is.
All right.
Let's see if this bad boy works.
Now Fingers crossed thatInstagram works.
If we can't see him, maybe weshould just talk to him.

(32:49):
What do you think?
Yeah, if everybody else can.
Yeah, so Chris, are you there?
Still nothing, man.
What the heck is going on withInstagram right now?
All right, yeah, so Christopher.
Christopher's been racing offroad trucks for a long time.
It's pretty cool to see himactually like step up to the top
level and pull up, take home awin, right, because he beat some

(33:10):
, some really good guys outthere.
Let's try it again.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Now for sure, I think he had a really good battle.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Well, yeah, he really was battling Christopher For
what he joined.
Ok, there he is Now.
Oh, what's up?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
What up?
Sorry I apparently can't usetechnology.
I think you do.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think you do pretty good tech with technology.
We were just telling people wegot to watch you with the the
Starscream kit.
We got to see you just rippingout there.
That was pretty rad to beinside the truck with you and
watching as you take home avictory.
No, it's cool.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
It's kind of cool to bring people along, show them.
You know, there's always alittle bit of chaos out there
and you're just like talking,you're like dude, you should
have seen it now.
But, thanks to Mr man George,we're seeing it.
It was.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
It was really cool to see, but Well, actually I'll
let you take over, bill.
You already have a bunch ofstuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I definitely do want to start with a KOH recap,
because what you accomplishedthese last few weeks was pretty
cool.
So I know you just had yourfirst win in your four-wheel
drive.
Mason, give us a quick, quicklittle run down on the whole
race.
Yeah, beginning to end, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
So just got a Mason all-wheel drive brand new to me.
Well, brand new, brand new.
But yeah, first Trophy Truckrace in my own Trophy Truck went
out, qualified first, and thenon race day I knew I just had to
kind of cruise and get a.
You know, stay ahead of themand go.
The first lap, about halfwaythrough, is going super smooth.

(34:43):
Came through the remote pit andwas just like, okay, yeah, this
is perfect, got some timesplits and then of course I got
myself a flat, which made it alittle interesting.
Tim Herbs got by me and so thenit made a little interesting,
kind of the chase was on.
I chased down Tim and then wewere able to pass him in the
pits.

(35:04):
We got right to his bumper.
My crew guys had to.
I Thought I was like, okay, nomistakes, just cruise, and you
know, use the, the dust to yourvantage.
So I kind of just cruise thereand the second lap, the Course,

(35:25):
I mean the trophy trucks werethe T1s were just destroying it.
So it was fun though it wasreally cool and I was just happy
for my team and I was likethere's a lot of pressure that
we were gonna win because we'rein the all-wheel drive, and so
it's like if I screw this up,I'm gonna be a little, a little
bummed.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, for sure, that sounds like a good solid run.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Yeah, yeah, no, besides, I mean for a brand new
truck.
I was very happy.
My guys had a very long weekprior Like we only had a little
tiny bit of test time and we hada lot of fun little issues we
were chasing.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
So and how many hours did you have on that motor?

Speaker 5 (36:01):
who, I Don't know, only a couple.
We had about a hundred milesabout two half days, which a
hundred miles in like a trophytruck, just like zoomed by.
So yeah, yeah, it was likesuper Overall we're.
We were a little nervous, I'mnot gonna lie, especially the
week prior.
We had a lot of little things.

(36:22):
We were chasing my guys anddrove back and forth to Hemet I
think, like four or five timesthe week of the race.
We barely it got there rightbefore qualifying and went out.
So you know how to keep itinteresting.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, for sure.
Um, I find it very inspiringhow you managed to conquer and
bounce so many different thingsin your life.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
What are your?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
racing plans for the future.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Um, for me I'm just gonna start chasing these trophy
truck guys.
It's been kind of a life goalof mine.
Do you know I you know inoff-road that the trophy trucks
are the, the big boys, so Inever thought I'd be here.
So now it's time to you knowyou really take advantage of
what I've been.
You know I've been veryfortunate to be in this position
.
So now it's kind of just headdown and Mainly racing score

(37:07):
down south in Mexico.
That's where you know the topteams are playing.
But I would like to startracing the state some more.
But for me just contentcreation and racing scores, my,
my future.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, you just went Um shock testing right not too
long ago for for score.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, no.
So literally I got home fromHammers on Sunday at like six
o'clock in the afternoon andleft at four in the morning to
go to San Felipe a Two full daysdown there, and now we're I'm
back Back in California for aday and then going back to Utah.
So yeah, the day prep is on.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
So when you talk about racing in the States and
racing in Baja, like what kindof differences are you guys like
thinking through and Processingas a team to to prep for that
race?
Because obviously you just camethrough one of the hardest,
biggest you know US based racesand there's a few others out
there on them on the schedule.
But you know, when you talkabout prep and and barely making
it to the race with your, withyour truck, and I mean barely

(38:10):
making it in the States is onething but barely making it in
Baja's a whole different ball ofwax.
Like how do you guys approachthat?

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Yeah, no, the logistics and the planning for
Baja's.
Like I, jumping into racingdown there, I thought it's like
all right, yeah, this should befun, easy, it is a whole another
ball game.
You're, you're down south veryhard to get resources, you got a
cross borders, you got a, andjust so.
It's a lot more planning andthat's why we dove into Kingdom

(38:39):
Hammers with our first race.
We knew we could, we could havea couple stumbles, but now
going down there, we're knowingwe have to, we've ever a game on
, and I think just the bigdifferences.
You know the train we're seeinga lot more.
A lot of them are racing in theStates.
We see kind of a similar trainthroughout the whole race down
in Mexico or on the beaches,then we're in the desert, then

(39:00):
we're in the mountains and theyhave us.
I mean last year's sandflip,but they had a rock crawling
which we never thought we'd bedoing in trophy trucks.
So yeah, that.
And then I think just the teameffort, this pit strategy down
there is a lot different.
We're allowed to pit anywhere,which then for me, being a
competitive person, yeah, Icould just have one pit set up,

(39:21):
but I want to have 15 pits thatup, just in case.
So that's.
It's like, yeah, they open itup, so it allows for a lot more
yeah, a lot more Opportunities,which sometimes, in like man
state racing, sounds so nice.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Yeah but stretching your team out across the Baja
race is a whole different.
Like it not only costs more,but just you don't have that
many specialized people tospread out across across the
country For a race program.
Right, like you got to reallyget selective and make some
smart decisions there.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yep, no, you have to learn your guys and I'm very
fortunate I have a lot of reallygood uh team members,
volunteers, and you know I havesome, but I have my two lead
guys who are really my A guys,who know the race truck.
So it's where do we put them?
Um strategically, and that'swhere it comes down to
pre-running and then justlearning the terrain and Um

(40:17):
spending a lot of time downthere.
That's what I I literally spentthree months a year in Mexico
now the past couple years justtrying to catch up to these guys
like Bryce and Luke, becausethey've been spending their
whole lives down there, right.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You just mentioned, um, how you know you're going to
be in California for one dayand then going back to Utah.
I know you recently made a moveto Utah.
How is that different with,like practicing and, you know,
rearranging your whole scheduleto be able to fit in?

Speaker 6 (40:44):
racing.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Compared to not very smart in all reality.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Uh, in hem.
Um, you know, if I needsomething, I'm down at car tech
or off-road warehouse withinminutes.
Um, now being in Utah, a lotmore planning, um, and yeah,
just testing and stuff, that'suh I, you know, I know From
heaven.
I was like, where do we want togo?
Within an hour or two hours, wehave four different locations.
Now being in Utah, um, we don'tknow anything.

(41:13):
I haven't we tested down ingene and with all the drive for
the first time and I was lost atthe whole time, pretty much Uh,
so just learning that, um, butyeah, utah is, it's a huge
stretch.
That's.
It's uh 10 hours from door todoor from our existing shop,
which we're half in right now inour new shop.
So, yeah, it's uh, it's been,uh, it's been a fun one, but I'm

(41:36):
excited my new shop's almostdone and that should be a lot
more helpful.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Yeah, for sure, that is a big, big difference when
you guys talk about testing andtaking these trucks out into the
desert and trying to get someseat time and trying to Uh put
some some uh knowledge you knowinto the brain bucket for for
how the car's in a handle and doall of that Um does the
mentality when you have to bemore strategic and purposeful
with what you're doing on yourtesting, like, instead of just

(42:00):
going out on a weekend and andripping out in the desert like
how does your, how do youapproach testing differently?
Um, when you have to do it insuch a strategic Um, yeah, a lot
more planning.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Like you wouldn't think just for one day or
something, you, we would behaving meeting after meeting.
Um, just trying to get you know, we go there with a plan.
Um, usually you know severaldifferent components we're gonna
focus on and you know, go witha baseline and then kind of just
, you know what, what do we wantto accomplish out of this?
So, whether it be shocks, drive, train, um, or just driver

(42:35):
right now, with me jumping intothe all-wheel drive half the
time, I'm in there just going,what's going on?
They, I pull into the thing andthey're like what do you think?
And I'm like, uh, can I go doanother lap?
So, uh, but yeah, definitely alot more just strategy and, um,
not just winging it anymore.
Um, when we go testing, usuallyit's you know five, six,
sometimes 10 people.
So definitely having a gameplan and just staying focused

(42:58):
and the trophy trucks, the permile to run, is Ridiculous, so
you got to make sure everyone,every mile, kind of counts, um,
when you're trying to run a teamkind of budget.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You said even test, like goingand testing with sometimes five,
10 people.
Well, does that really help?
You see, like differentperspectives for like shock
tuning or just you know thingsthat you didn't realize?
Good, work better this way orthat way.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Oh yeah, no, that's, uh, I'm, uh, I think one thing
I've learned is just being asponge in racing and, um, if
someone wants to offer something, um, definitely take advantage
of it, even if you already knowthe answer.
Um, I love to bring people outtesting and just see what their
thoughts are and whether I useit or if I just you know I

(43:43):
already knew that or.
But whatever, you can't havethat mentality, um, especially
with such a new truck.
Um, if someone has input, I'm,I'm in to listen, because every
day is a new challenge and, Uh,just trying to figure out how to
go faster, because these topteams are just it's, it's
ridiculous how fast and precisethey are, I guess.

Speaker 6 (44:04):
When you made the conversion over to all-wheel
drive, what was like the firsttakeaway that really changed
your perspective on how to drivethese things differently than,
uh, than the two-wheel trucks,um?

Speaker 5 (44:15):
The you've really got to be a lot more patient, which
a lot of people are like.
You're going to a lot faster,but, um, the patient's going in
there a lot heavier.
Um, they don't really like tolike be leaning on the ruts and
stuff.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
So really just calming myself down, um and uh
At hammers this year thecommentators were talking about
some of the drivers were sayingsome of the pickers were saying
we're driving a lot faster thanwe thought we were going to and
they had to actually like rainthings back a little bit Just to
save the truck and the team forthe extended amount of the race
.
Because they got out there therain had come in, got everything

(44:49):
cleaned up, dust was down andguys were going way faster than
they thought they were going toWas.
Was that something youexperienced?

Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yeah, no, I uh the the overall speed.
You know I was guessing like 55to 60 and I know we were well
over that.
Um, yeah, it was definitelyfast.
It was just like with all therocks out there, when you start
just going faster and faster andfaster.
All of a sudden you got torealize, hey, the trucks doing
it, but when do I hit my limit?
I start just hitting rocks andstuff.
So I definitely experiencedthat and um, with the new trucks

(45:18):
, it's just, it's crazy how fasteverything's getting.
Um, it's kind of scary toprocess in your mind.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah for sure.
Even just trying to keep thatstamina up through the whole
thing because I know I mean Mepersonally racing a utv probably
couldn't even compare to atrophy truck and how like
Draining it could get after awhile.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Yeah it's, it's a little different, um, but I mean
the utvs are definitely nothingto.
You guys are out there, youknow giving it and you guys are
experienced a lot more thanbumps.
We're cheating.
I always said, uh, they'redefinitely.
I mean they look a lot smootherand to some points they are,
but at the same time they'repretty violent and the only
advantage with the trophy truckis like it's over quicker.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
That's true, that is very true.
But yeah, I heard from somebodythat you have your pilot's
license and I was really reallycurious on why and what that
encouraged.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
Um, I love to fly.
Both my growing up, both myparents were pilots, but now
I'll neither of them fly really,and so I grew up in small
planes and then it was it's kindof my obsession, the guy racing
and that's kind of like my job.
I guess you could say, but, uh,the, the flying is my obsession
, that's all I watch on youtubeand stuff.
So, um, and with my lifestyle,with racing and stuff, normally

(46:39):
I'm flying around.
I use it down in mexico a tonum for jumping back and forth
across the border, and then,yeah it's, I always claim it's
for work and stuff but it'sreally.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Are you smuggling like axles and like stuff across
?
The border with your, with yourplane, and like dropping them
out?

Speaker 5 (46:56):
of course, it's not, of course not no, I Uh no, it's
not.
No, yeah, it's absolutely.
It's a great tool.
I pile a lot of stuff in there,um, probably more than I should
sometimes, but uh yeah, no,flying's cool.
I, I recommend it.
It's, it's, it's a, but it'sanother terrible habit.
Yeah, if you guys ever want tofly, I'm always looking for

(47:17):
excuses to fly.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Well then I know, cool yeah.
So do you have anything elseyou want to say?

Speaker 6 (47:24):
Uh well, you talked about flying right like that
takes um a lot of very Specificfocus and knowing what you're
doing and being very attentiveto details and Understanding
what all of the data is doing.
Right, like your, your cockpitsgiving you a lot of data.
Um, in the trophy trucks, like,how does that?
Is it similar Like you have alot of data coming at you, or is
it just balls the wall?

(47:45):
Go as fast as you can and andhope that you come out the other
end.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
No, I think, uh, I think it definitely is very
relatable and I think they bothhelp each other Um a ton,
because in the trophy truck now,with all the mo, tex and stuff,
it's just so much more datathat we can and like live stuff
that we're able to look at anduse our advantage.
Um, it's, it's pretty cool.
I mean, we have 1400 datapoints on our new trophy truck.

(48:12):
That's how many pieces that ispicking up essentially at every
every time it started.
We're looking at 1400 differentthings.
Um, so you being able to putthat onto a screen that then I
can look at and you know myco-writer, mike Kim, and we can
process has been super awesome.
And, um, no, I think theydefinitely.
Uh, they, they, they teach youboth, both them teach you to be

(48:35):
calm and, uh, kind of in chaoticmoments, even when it's all
going crazy, um it there'salways an answer and a solution,
and so, just going down thatchecklist so the uh, the comment
section is asking if you'reflying over the the racetrack to
get a different perspective andone up on the competition.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
I cannot, you know.
I can not confirm or deny.
I cannot confirm.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
But uh, I will say there is in mexico.
It's uh one of those thingshaving a little birdie in the
sky.
Um, you see them everywhere.
There's people pre-running itwith them all the time and stuff
.
So, um, I've learned to hidefrom them really well.
When I'm out on my lines and Ihear a helicopter, that's like
your worst nightmare.
You're out sneaking a linebecause down in mexico we're

(49:21):
able to kind of sneak, you know,make some shortcuts.
When you're on a shortcut andyou hear a helicopter that's
pre-running, you're, you'rerunning to hide in the bushes.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Well, now I know that for tips this year when we go
down to boho.
So but yeah, is there anyoneyou'd like to thank?
You know, friends, family, pitcrew, sponsors that helped you,
you know, have so much successthese last few weeks.

Speaker 5 (49:43):
Yeah, everyone might, I think.
The biggest hats off to my team, though.
Um, it's been a long, longcouple weeks on the road and and
working, but, uh, all mysponsors Um, big hats off to op
in the batteries and fordFormants steal it.
Yeah, there's so many thatreally make this happen.
Uh, it's, uh, it's been a dreamcome true to race this trophy
truck so, and it's really notpossible without them and my

(50:08):
whole family and everyonesupports me and people like you
guys who Let me come up here andrant and show uh, um, you know
there's more to racing.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Um, yeah, not to the heli pilots out getting the
shots of you guys, because youwere on the tv for a solid like
minute there at the end and, uh,you were ripping hard and they
were getting the shots for you.
Oh, the heli pilots this yearwere nuts.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
I mean, at one point we were doing like a hundred and
fifteen across the up the uh,up the military base and all of
a sudden I looked over to myright and the helicopter was
literally the same height as Iwas.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, what's up, man, it's nuts.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Uh, we just gotta get them to start dropping tacos
into the, into the truck for you, I'm 100% being.
I'm always hungry, yeah, butthank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
We really appreciate it and just getting to know you,
the driver, and you know theinner perspective.
So, yeah, thanks for For havingme and it's awesome doing keep
it up, thank you, thank you somuch, lady Christopher.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Thanks, zach, you guys yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Is that got to fill in for me?
I know, all right, who's nextman.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Who is next is Sadie Gray so I'm really excited for
this question.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Is she already trying to get on here?
No, not yet.
We'll wait for her to come on,and it's like Every single
person has such a differentstory, don't you think?
Like when they talk?
About their racing or how manypeople helped, or like all of
these different things.
I love hearing it so much.
It's all crazy different.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Just seeing how everybody else kind of does
their thing All right, sadie,just request to join real quick
and then we'll get you on.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I don't want to Send the request from this side
because it didn't work last timewith with Christopher.
Oh, there you go, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So Sadie Gray is 16 years old, from Barstow,
california.
She's been in the racingindustry for a while now, but
started her career when she wasjust 13.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Dude 13?
That's so young, Hi Sadie.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Hi guys, how are you doing?
I'm good.
I'm good.
How are you guys?
We are pretty good.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, awesome, talking about all this racing.
No, we both know that you loveracing, so, like you probably
even been watching the showhearing everybody talk about it.
It's just exciting, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Absolutely, absolutely.
I love every bit of it.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, for sure.
So not too long ago I know IDM'd you about all of this, but
you mentioned to me that Norawas one of your bigger events
that you co-drove in, so I wantto kind of mention that, like
how was that experience?
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
It was crazy.
Luckily, my dad had ties withSarah and we got connected and
it was like a spur of the momentthing.
It was crazy.
And when we like goingthroughout the racing, I was
like, okay, this is so much fun,Like racing is usually pretty
stressful and it wasn'tstressful really at all.

(53:04):
I mean, you were in the moment,for sure, but it was such a fun
experience and the views andlike the as the days went on,
like everything just got betterand better.
It was crazy and the, and assoon as we finished, I was like
she was like yeah, I think wewon, and I was like no way, Like

(53:27):
the whole experience, I don'tknow, it was just insane.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah, it's almost surreal.
Like you almost like feel like,because you're doing it and you
get so used to like doingracing and Nora is a multi-day
event Like you're kind of inyour zone, right, and then all
of a sudden everything stops andthen, like the adrenaline kind
of slows down, the fast pacekind of slows down.
You're like, oh, wow, like okay, I get to get back to real life
.
But then you figure out likeyou won and then you're like

(53:52):
whoa, it was crazy, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
I remember every single day after we would finish
, I would be like we'd get backto camp and stuff and I'd be
like we're in like thisbeautiful place, Like usually
after a race, like you get towind down.
But then it's like you winddown for a little bit and then
it's like okay, we got to backto race.
No, okay, I got to racetomorrow.
I got to be prepared, I got towake up, I got to.
You know, it's like a crazycycle that you go through there.

(54:17):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah, I totally agree .

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I think we should give a little background on
Sadie, though, too, because whenshe said Sarah, she just didn't
say her last name.
So Sarah Price is who she drovewith, who is an accomplished
racer herself and her dad has.
I mean, he's got so manychampionships and stuff right.
Like Jeremy Gray has been aco-dog for God knows how many
people, but he's also a racer inhimself, so like they've got

(54:42):
real racing in their blood.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Lots of experience, for sure.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
That's absolutely my dad.
He's accomplished so much inthis time that he's been here
especially my whole life justgrew up in like learning from
him and all the people that he'sraced with.
It's just been crazy.
I mean so much that he'saccomplished and so much he's
taught me and I could.
I'm so grateful for it.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Yeah, but don't forget about mom.
No, no, no, no, no, no, likeholding everybody together over
here.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
And mom is the one that actually keeps it all
together.
My dad's the one that teachesme how to taught me, like, how
to drive in the desert.
Mom taught me how to drive onthe road.
Dad wasn't patient.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
No, don't do it that way.
I'm going to let your mom teachyou I can't do this.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah.
So, being an off-road racer, Iknow how much I rely on my
co-driver, you know, with likeknowledge for the race car, you
know the everything that's goingon the GPS, the track, but not
only that, like the racer'spersonal health and like, yeah,
I feel like a co-driver can telllike, hey, you need to drink
water.
Hey, you know you're gettingtired, pick your head up.

(55:50):
But what do you kind of do tolike prepare for that, Like
prepare for that hugeresponsibility?

Speaker 4 (55:58):
I think it seems a lot like there's so much to
being a co-driver, but I thinkif you have a driver that you
connect with and you guys bothwork well together, it's so much
easier Like you, when you knowthat person, it's almost like
like second nature, like oh, Iknow what, that they need this
boom, boom, like it's so mucheasier.

(56:19):
I mean again, my dad taught mea lot of it.
He's the one that's like alwayslike was why people shields and
doing stuff for them.
That I was always like what?
Like why do you need to be that?
Until I was in that positionand I was like, oh, I get it now
.
Like these people, likepreparing for that it's not,
it's not hard.
It's especially when you'rewith driving with somebody

(56:39):
that's like that you know it'slike have you guys ever heard
what the word intuitive, or youknow what that word means?

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Kind of so intuitive is kind of like being like I
don't know, like you're almostlike Intune yeah, well in tune
for sure.
But it's also being like liketelling the future, or like you
can kind of sense things thatare going on around you.
And it's very rare that peoplehave that skill set these days,
because everybody is so reactiveand they just like see
something and then they react toit like social media or

(57:07):
whatever it is.
And so, like what you and Sadieare talking about is being
intuitive, so you kind of canforecast and you can see the
future before it even happens,right.
So when you're talking aboutthat, like the co driver for you
, bella, or like when Sadie said, like she can already know
what's happening before it evenhappens, and that's the reason
she's good at it, because shehas to know where they're going,
she has to know how the driverfeels, she has to know what's

(57:30):
happening with the car, like allof these crazy things.
So that's a good quality tohave and you'll find that you
use it a lot more than you thinkin your life.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Sure, I will.
That's actually really a lotreally good advice.
It makes so much sense yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Well, just think about it.
It'd be like, instead of askingmom and dad, hey, where do you
want to go eat, be like hey, Ialready know where you guys want
to go eat.
We're getting tacos.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
True, I think that works for even like outside of
the car, to like not just havinga part inside of the car but
even outside.
You know, this is my job in thepit, this is my job for food,
this is my job for like.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Everyone kind of plays their role or has their
like little niche, their thingthat they do contribute
Definitely, especially in likehigh tense situations where
you're trying to get a car fixedor something like those
situations you really have to be, have good communication and be
in tune, like, okay, I know Ineed to do this for this person
and okay, they could do that forme while I'm fixing this.

(58:25):
It's just all everything withracing.
I think why I like it so muchis because everybody, when you
have a good team, everybody isso like in tune with each other
and you communicate and thenafter you guys all feel so like
like good about it.
You're like okay, awesome yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Have you ever had the adverse of that, where it was
like just like all like a looseprogram and it was just all you
know crap everywhere, all overthe place and you don't have to
name names, but like it was justlike something that was totally
out of your comfort zone?
You're like, hey, you know whatI'm going to learn from this
and I'm never doing this again.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Definitely, definitely.
We've had a couple situationslike that.
But, man, you definitely learnfrom it.
You definitely take, like, whatyou gain from those.
Like, even if it's a badsituation, you always learn
something, you always gainsomething.
And then you look out for thatin another team or other people

(59:18):
and you can be more aware.
Like as soon as somethinghappens like that, you're
definitely more aware, like,okay, yeah, I didn't like that,
this person did that.
So if this team does that, it'skind of red flag, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Totally, bella.
Have you ever heard somebodysay it's better to know what you
don't want than what you dowant?
No, like.
So if somebody like, does youdirty or like I don't know I
mean it could even be somethingsimple as like breaking up with
a boyfriend or something andthen you learn from that and you
say I'm never doing that againbecause I don't want that.
Yeah, and then it makes youchange and it has a hard impact
on you that you always goforward without having that in

(59:51):
your life and you don't lookback.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah for sure.
I think even having likecertain people in your pit that
are like very motivated andtruly love this sport makes a
difference too, because peoplearen't going to put a hundred
percent effort If it's not ahundred percent what they love.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Definitely definitely , especially the pits.
I mean I've we've been in thepits, me and my mom, and, of
course, other people withdifferent teams that we've been
with and those people are thecore people.
Those people are the ones thatthat when you're sitting there,
you're having a tough day andyou're just like like dead or
you're like okay, likeeverything's going wrong.
Those are the people that keepyou going, like no, we got to

(01:00:29):
finish, we got to do it, come on.
Like the people that keep youmotivated are definitely so
important.
Yeah, for sure, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah because you need those support mechanisms,
especially in high stresssituations like that.
Yeah, how many times have youbeen in it, bella?
Like you're near supportmechanism.
You come into the pits andyou're like oh my gosh, my race
is toast, I just made a hugemistake.
And they're like no, bella,take a deep breath, focus, let's
go and like.
And then they get you back onthe horse and you're just like
you know what.
They're right, I'm going tokill it now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, and even, like Kyle was talking about that
having confidence like becauseof your co-driver or because you
know, like I can't tell you theworld of a difference it makes
when I have my co-driver andversus when I'm alone in the car
, because my confidence justgoes straight up, not even
because he's telling me likeyou're doing great, you're doing
great, but also like, oh yeah,you can hit that.
Oh yeah, like I don't know whyyou're letting off, you're

(01:01:17):
totally fine.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
I I've looked, I've been luckyenough to be with people that
usually they're more of the typeof people you say, oh, we got
to slow down on that one.
Not, you got it, you got it.
Yeah, it's either way.
But I've definitely been withpeople where it's like no, come
on, yeah, keep going, keep going, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
And that confirmation , no, either either, or just
helps so much, especially forthe drivers, definitely
reassuring Like, okay, now Iknow next time, next lap, I can
do this, and it makes time gofaster.
Yeah, the next thing you knowyou're in a good position
because it's a teamwork.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
I have.
I have two questions for Sadie.
I want to know, like becauseyou've been in the pits and then
you've also been in the car, doyou have like a favorite moment
of any of those?

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
like that, like way outweighs the other one Okay, in
a car was and a car wasprobably when I raced with my
dad.
That was definitely like me andhim we pull into the pits and
we had people there that even ifit wasn't really that high

(01:02:25):
tense of it like a situation.
But we had people like theMcFadden's and are the best guy
ever, gilbert in our pits andthey were just like I was like
stressed out, my hands werehurting, everything was going
wrong.
In my head, my dad's sittingthere trying to calm me down and
then, as soon as I see allthose people with the big grin
on their face, that was justamazing.

(01:02:46):
And then probably favoritemoment as being in the pits was
probably recently, when I thinkwhen oh, yeah, definitely, well,
I don't know if you can count,that is, I wrote in a helicopter
and got to chase the boysaround.
My dad just mentioned that bigHelly girl.

(01:03:08):
That's awesome.
That was awesome.
I think that was probably oneof the top moments or when
everybody was changing it flatand it was like so quick and we
did it so fast and like the.
It was that feeling after, likethat I mentioned before, where
everybody was just like pumpedon the situation and we were
like, oh my gosh, we got themout so fast.

(01:03:29):
That was crazy.
And everybody, and of coursethe guys, are like, yeah, good
pit guys.
And we're like, okay, yeah, wegot that confirmation.
That's, that type of stuff isjust the best.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I'd like she just explained it and all I could
think about in my head was thatRicky Bobby scene, where it was
like yeah.
But, like, that's what I wasgoing to ask as a follow up to,
is because we were talking aboutprogress with Kyle Cheney and I
was looking forward to doingall of these different things
Like does that mean that youwant to look forward to actually
holding onto the steering wheeland driving more?

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
I.
I'm the type that it doesn'tmatter if I'm in the car or see
or driving.
I love both.
And if there's anyopportunities to either, I'm
down.
Like doesn't matter anyopportunity to be racing going
fast, I'm down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
That's a true.
Like Jenny win love for thesport, you're down.
If I could just be part of it,if I can watch it, I'm down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Well, you can probably feel it like inside you
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Getting excited like talking about it, yeah totally
yeah but that's how you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
You're meant for it and your blood experience is
like that too, bella.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah, I do, I too many to count, honestly, but
it's I feel like every year thatyou race you just have
countless and more and moreexperiences.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
So I can't even like you and Sadie have a lot in
common because you guys are soin tune with going around you
and the people and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
No, I think racing definitely plays a huge part,
Like especially like I don'tknow, compare a person that
doesn't really do the sport.
That is our age and then us.
I feel like it brings a lot ofgood characteristics and like
kind of just teaches you how tobe a good human.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Definitely, especially when you're
surrounded by people that loveit as much as you and that you
learn so much from them, andthen you can grow and love the
sport and love like, just likethat love that family, like I
don't know what to, how to, butthat family like it's a common
relationship that everybody hastogether.

(01:05:32):
Yeah, that bond is.
It makes you a better person,makes you want to be there, and
you can carry that on into therest of your life and treat
people in your workplace likethat, or, yeah, anything like
that.
You can carry it on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
And I'd say we have an advantage for sure, just
growing up a part of it andbeing a part of it Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Is there any?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
disadvantage.
There are some sacrifices youhave to make, Like I think you
getting you know the high schoolexperience or prom or things oh
sorry, I can't go after go to adance, or yeah, I have to go to
the car for hours, like yeah,get dressed up and all pretty,
just like things like that.

(01:06:13):
But overall I think it's it'sworth it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yeah, do you get?
Do you miss that, sadie?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
I was the same way to , because I never got like.
When I went to high school, Ionly went for two or three days
a week and I was always on theroad.
Yeah and I only went for maybean hour a day.
Yeah, I was like almost likehomeschool.
So I missed all of that, likeliterally everything.
I didn't even like go to mygraduation Like I just had my
diploma mailed.
Yeah like because it was socrazy, but like I don't regret

(01:06:42):
any of that.
So I like I was just wonderingif you guys did.

Speaker 4 (01:06:45):
No, not definitely so much more fun than going to
school or a dance that won'tmatter later where you can make
memories at a race or withpeople, meet new people where
you wouldn't do that at a dance,where you're just dancing and
then it's like OK, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Well, the dance might matter.
Like if somebody slips andfalls down, you get to laugh at
them and you're like oh, dude,that's a core moment, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
I do agree though.
Like it just depends on what'sworth it to you or not.
Because I mean, I did my firsttwo years of high school like in
actual school, every day, fivedays a week, and you know I kind
of had to make like thedecision hey, like is racing
really important?
I'm about to go home schoolthat I'm about to put my all
into it.
I need to decide right now andyou know I chose to stick with

(01:07:30):
racing.
It's taught me way more, I feellike in my life and really
school has absolutely, and I doappreciate school.
I think it's very important tobe educated and everything for
sure, but just for me personally, it definitely works In here,
save me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I've learned so much more being homeschooled, just in
general, except going to theraces than I ever have in school
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah for sure, I 100% agree.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
I want to know what her favorite subject is.
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I would probably say math yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Dude, that's definitely opposite of Bella
Bella doesn't want math.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
You should have heard the question he asked me before
.
Press this live button.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Yeah, how many seconds is three minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
I said 98.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
How many seconds is three minutes?
Yeah, 120.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Ah, close, 180.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
There, you go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
Oh, I, better than me , nailed it.
It's in a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
It's in 60 seconds.
Yep Six times.
I was about half oh that's okay, yeah if you had said, if you
had said 6.9, we would have hada really, really bad trend 0.9.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
That's cool, though Math will actually take you
pretty far yeah definitely Iwouldn't say it's like I mean,
if I didn't have to do school, Iwould not be doing school, but
yeah, but that's very true.
Out of all of them, I thinkit's mainly just my teacher.
He's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Yeah, austin said lunch was his favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yep Recess for me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Gym class, so you can just get all swole.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yep, both seasons, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
What's your favorite part about being at the races?
Is it the camaraderie, or is itactually like just enjoying the
speed in the car?
Like what's your favorite?
Because I know a lot of peoplesay all kinds of different
answers about this.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
My favorite part about racing or being at the
races.
I think it has to be the people, honestly, because people are
what make it fun.
If we just had racing, likethink, if you just watch racing
on TV by yourself, say, you'rejust watching Supercross on TV
by yourself, it's not as fun ifyou're actually there and you're

(01:09:44):
like, oh my gosh, this isawesome, but everybody's
cheering.
It's just a differentexperience.
I think it's the people.
For me, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Alright, since you just talked about Supercross, we
should have people send incomments right now who's going
to be at Phoenix Supercross sothey can hang out with us and
the eBirds.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
So yeah, Didn't you just recently?

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
go to Supercross?
Yes, I did, I went to A1 and A2.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Oh, huge Supercross.
I thought she was going to sayone.
She already went to two yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
I do got one more question.
I've been planning to ask whatmodel or mindset has stuck to
you that's helped motivate youthroughout your racing or
co-racing career.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Mom, stop Sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
I want to hear what she said.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Your mom beats you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Definitely not that.
I think it's just that everyday is an opportunity, is a new
opportunity, and every time thatyou have, every time you wake
up, there's chances forsomething new to happen in your
life, and you've got to justkeep pushing forward and trying
to find the next thing and keepgoing with your life.

(01:10:54):
I think that's really it,honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
That's exactly what we've been talking about, for,
like what the last two episodesthat progress and that like.
Thing that you're alwayslooking for something Like
there's so many people thatdon't have that in this life.
They just sit around and they'rejust with their thumb on their
butt the whole time and theydon't have anything to look
forward to.
Like, I consider us as muchhard work as you guys put in to

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this.
I consider all of us very luckythat we have the opportunity to
be able to go out and havegoals and have progress and have
something to look forward to,because that keeps you a way
better human being.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah, absolutely, and we all get the opportunity to
do it.
You know, we all get theopportunity to wake up and have
a different mindset.
Some people are dealt differentcards but at the end of the day
, like it's really you, you arein control of what you do with
your life.
You can't and the same withaccountability.
You can't, you know, wake upand say, oh, this happened, so I

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can't accomplish this.
Like you know, you takeaccountability for what happened
and you move forward.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Absolutely, absolutely, I think.
As long as you're, as long asyou're making progress, you're
doing 10 times better than a lotof people nowadays.
A lot of people just kind ofsettle for what they have.
Yeah, to me that's reallyreally sad.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Yeah, hey, so we're talking about what people have.
Both of you guys have fantastichair, by the way, but everybody
always comments on howbeautiful Sadie's hair was, oh,
my gosh.
We already got people that werechiming in before and I just
got two text messages on it Likedude, so like you guys can have
girl talk about it.
But I just wanted to mention itbecause I got a couple of texts

(01:12:29):
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Oh, dude, I love your hair I love your hair.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I love your hair, thank you.
I'm like finding almost likewhat is more product that she
use.
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Also, we go from racing to talking about products
, hair products.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
We're just girls.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
It's okay.
It's okay because it's Bella'scorner.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
My mom said she's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Thank you so much, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I wanted to ask one more thing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
What is your goal in five years?

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
Five years.
I'm going to think how old I'llbe.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
You're still going to be young, it doesn't really
matter, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
I want to definitely be an ultrasound tech, so I'm
trying to get into probably dotrace school for that.
So hopefully, starting thatright after I'm done with high
school.
Yeah, I'm going to graduate.
That's not, that's not a.
That's not like a maybe.
That's a.
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen, yeah, andI want to be happy, no matter

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what I'm doing.
I want to be happy and I wantto be able to do the things that
I love and be successful at thesame time.
And whatever I decide to do,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
That goes a long way, yeah, a long ways.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
And since you guys are talking so mature now, like,
how do you guys achieve thosegoals?
Do you guys actually like rightdown milestones?
Do you have like a to do listthat you go through?
Like, do you have goals for theyear?
Like, how do you usually do it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Well, shout out to Sarah Price and my mom, of
course, but Sarah Price is theone that made me write down all
of my goals in a journal andsend it to her, so that I got it
all written down and every timeI accomplish something new I
write, I check it off.
Every time that I'm strugglingwith something, I find solutions
in that notebook or I askpeople that could help me and

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just again make that progressionand keep moving forward with my
life.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Yeah, so just as fact that she has that.
But you want to know what Ialways tell everybody?
I've told Kate and Danbury thisa bunch of times Anytime you
write something down, youactually hand write it it's I
forgot what it's like 83% moreapp to be successful.
Yeah, if you just like thinkabout it and you don't write it
down, it's probably going tofall by the wayside.

(01:14:50):
Yeah, just write it.
Just writing it down makes thatmuch of a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
And even being like determinedand motivated for sure, like I
think most parents teach theirkids You're like a lot of
parents teacher kids that, butnot really like much these days
Like, just like, like, if youwant something, you chase after
it.
If you want something, you putthe work in for it, yeah, Really
, oh look, yeah, sassy, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
So the hand to heart when you write it down, yeah,
that's crazy, I didn't eventhink about it, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah, that makes, that makes total sense.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
You're kicking butt, you're doing awesome, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Yeah, thank you so much for coming on.
Is there anyone that you'd liketo thank friends?
Family picture.
Well, she has to thank mom anddad that right next to her.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Yes, that's true.
You definitely have to thank myparents.
They're the only reason thatI'm here on this earth and I've
gotten so far, and I meanfriends and family, the people
that keep me going as wellAnybody and all the people that
I've met throughout racing, andall the people that support me
and comment and stuff andmessage me.
They're all awesome.

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So that's and you guys, oh mygosh, the guys.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
You should thank yourself to yes.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
You thank myself.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
It was really great getting toknow you, getting to meet you
actually, yes, but yeah, Ireally appreciate everything.
I relate to you with everythingfor sure, and I hope, hope that
we can have anothercountermeant talk again.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
Okay, awesome.
Thanks guys for letting me onand yeah, guys later.
Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
See you guys later.
It's cool to see you'll see herat the race with a guarantee
that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Oh yeah, she said good luck to me before when we
were pulling in, for we're atKOH.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Oh, is that KOH yeah, oh, cool, yeah.
Did she already know she wasgoing to be on the show?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Yeah, she's sucking up to you, she's totally sucking
up to you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Do we have anybody else left?

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
We do, michael McFayden.
I switched them on accident, soyeah, way to go bro.
Yeah, that was a.
I was a rookie mistake.
I'll do that next time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
But hey, when you talk to people that are going to
be guests, you like give theminstructions like how to join
and stuff like that, or theyalready know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
No, I don't, but maybe I should huh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
I don't know.
I'm just wondering if itbecause, like all of your
friends have been like super, orall of the people that you are,
all of your guests, have beensuper easy to get on the show
because, like most of them arealready on point going to get it
done, so Maybe they're excited.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Hello, hi Michael.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
Hey, how's it going.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
It's going.
How about you?

Speaker 7 (01:17:23):
Doing great.
I've just been watching thelive since it's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I'm sorry I switched you guys.
I didn't realize I did it untilI looked at paper.

Speaker 7 (01:17:31):
I was like oh gosh, no, it's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
No worries, you got an intro for, yes, I do have an
intro for you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Oh sweet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Michael McFayden is 17 years old, from Southern
California, and just a couple ofjust a couple of years of
racing.
He has already hardware underhis belt and a bunch of wins.
Koh was a solid weekend for him, so we'll get a race recap of
all your accomplishments.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Yeah, young, fast guy I know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
So just this last month he landed second place
spot the King and Hammers DesertChallenge and sixth overall.
Give us a race recap.
Green flag to checkered.

Speaker 7 (01:18:07):
KOH is an awesome race.
My favorite part is definitelythe fans there.
It's awesome getting to thestart line and seeing everybody
out there and knowing thatthere's the live streams out
there, like the star streamsystem that we had going and it
was from the start.
We just knew we had to set agood pace and run a clean race.
Since we pre ran it we saw itwas a rough course, but we knew

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it was going to be a fast pacebecause there was a lot of fast
guys out there, yeah.
So I mean we started and wejust followed our notes, set a
good pace.
We had a really clean day, zeroissues the whole day.
I think we ran prettyconservatively, but that was my
goal because I previously hadbad luck at this race.

(01:18:50):
Like the first time I reallyshould actually crash that mile
one.
Oh, I'm saying I really wantedto get to the finish this time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah, for sure, and you accomplish that, so Thank
you Progress.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Yeah there you go, more progress.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I was actually pretty impressed too, because I was
like we got to obviously see him, but I was like man, he's
really hauling the mail.
Like he's got a, like I don'tknow what it was called, like
vengeance was the first wordthat came to mind.
I was like, but he's like hisgot a heavy right foot today.

Speaker 7 (01:19:21):
Yeah, that course it was rough, it was fast and our
car was working well the wholetime.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yeah, yeah, that's always a plus.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah, massive plus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
King and Hammer's very hard on every vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
You know what?
Actually, one question I wasthinking about asking you to
like and I was going to ask youthis off the air was like where
did you learn to work on the car?
And like it gets such a I don'tknow a close bond with your car
, because it always seems likeyou do have a good working car.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
Yeah, so Currently we're racing our second race car
and this car we I worked hardto get it put together.
We worked with Mitchell alsoand I went up to their shop to
do all the fit and finish withhim and I mean I wired the car
and I was there when we dideverything.
So I know the car inside andout.

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I do all the prep work and ourmy buddy, sean, he taught me how
to prep a race car and you knowwe just checked everything off
the list and make sure it's goodto go.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Did you know Michael, before he ever raced?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
No, I will actually.
Yes, I did.
I went to elementary schoolwith you.
Oh yeah, that's cool.
I didn't realize that untiluntil I was talking to my mom
and I was like, yeah, he, I'mhaving him come on the show, and
she was like wait what he'sfrom here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Did you guys ever have a yearbook?

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
No, I that would have been so epic.

Speaker 7 (01:20:46):
Yeah, have my yearbook somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Yeah that would have been so funny.
We should post a picture on thedirt life of you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
No, I'm going to go home.
Are you a junior this year orsenior?
This Okay so you're a yearolder than me, which means if I
was, if we were in elementaryschool together, you would have
always been a year older, so nowI know where to look.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Yeah, okay, wait to see this picture.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Being a part of the racing world in so many aspects
like with, like you know, justbeing a part of a racing team
and having to race in a car andstuff like that what would you
say is your favorite, yourfavorite overall highlight of
this whole sport?

Speaker 7 (01:21:32):
My favorite part about this sport is the
camaraderie, all the peoplebeing able to get together and
everybody be you know likeminded.
Everyone want to help eachother and it's great going to
the races knowing that if youhave an issue, that there is
someone out there that would bewilling to help you.
Our team, we're always willingto help everybody.

(01:21:53):
We always try to give back asmuch as we can.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Yeah, I actually saw it at the.
Was it the Parker 400, the lastrace?
We're out in the pits and thenthis one kid came through and he
was like he didn't have anypits or anybody there and he
need to get gas and like, lookat his car and his team went up.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
Give him a couple of gallons.
Made sure he got through therace.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Yeah, that's.
That's really rad and greatlyappreciated upon, like the
entire everybody sees that, andespecially if you're doing it
like not oh, I'm doing itbecause someone's looking at me
or something you know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Yeah, you're not doing it for the kudos, you're
just doing it to help.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yeah, it's genuine yes for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:22:31):
Our pit crew is awesome, like no matter what.
If someone needs help, itdoesn't matter.
If you're in a can, am, aPolaris, it doesn't matter.
We're ready to help and that'swhat we want to do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Hey, who's the funniest guy in your pit crew?
Because everybody has the funnyguy, the jokester.

Speaker 7 (01:22:46):
Oh, dang, it's probably Sean Sean, he's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
He's always mess with people who's who is it on your
crew?

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I mean other than Cruz.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Well, yeah, other than Cruz.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Cruz is always mess with everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Probably Richard.
I think Richard is the home themechanic.
Yeah, probably the funniest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
He cracks out a joke every five minutes really
lightens the mood, like a dadjoke or like a really funny joke
any joke, any, any joke itcould be insulting.
It could be anything like hecomes out of you with all kinds
oh yeah, oh yeah, but it's alljokes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
We love Richard.
Yeah, um, we all know it'spretty hard to have gourmet
meals on race day.
What was your favorite snack inbetween meals for KOH?

Speaker 7 (01:23:36):
Probably gushers.
Gushers are on race weekends,but my grandparents?
They come to every race andthey're kind enough to support
us and the pit crew with.
I mean, we have steak dinnerthe race before the day before
the race and provide sandwichesfor lunch during race and

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everything.
Who's the cook?
My grandmother, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Yeah, I mean we already?
We just talked about thejokester in the pits and then,
like, we got the cook in thepits who usually sets up your
guys meals.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Oh, we got Joe the taco guy.
Oh, he was he was cooking upsome tacos in the middle of the
pit at King Hammers.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Dude after we broke apparently I was hanging on the
wrong spot.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
Yeah, no, I feel you on the gushers.
That's my, that's my low snackin the race car.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Well, and we got some tips from Kyle Cheney, who
obviously you know, michael andyou both would have to look up
to because you could want to beas fast as Kyle, but, like he
was saying, it's very importantto make sure that you're eating
right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yeah, eating Neat water.
Yeah, it goes a long way takingcare of yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Yeah, well, you know what about, like on race day, do
you guys put certain things inthe car like I don't know, do
you over hydrate, do you haveelectrolytes like stuff like
that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:55):
The day before the race.
I'll make sure to drink a lotof water so I'm really hydrated,
and I'll eat a big dinner, likemy grandma.
She makes steak dinners and wehave mashed potatoes and
everything, and yeah, definitely.
And then we'll pack some snacksand we'll load our water bags
so we need any water that wehave everything we need in the

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car.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, yeah, preparing .

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Well, you got it.
You always prepared when you go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Oh yeah, gotta be, though, but I'm also foodie, so
I can't go too long without food.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Yeah, and I kind of feel like right now I'm really
want sushi, but I kind of feellike sushi would not be the move
the day before the race.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Oh, no, no definitely not.
You like sushi?

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
depends everyone's friend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Yeah, what did you do to celebrate such a successful
day after King?

Speaker 7 (01:25:51):
Yeah, I celebrated by getting ready to prep for the
next one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Yep, that's how it goes.

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
Spoken like a true racer true cycle.
Yeah, we had a great race.
It was a solid run, for sure.
Getting second place in classin the sixth overall was really
really awesome and no issues allday.
It was a great race and nexttime I'm going to try to get the
first place is what I'm alwaysgoing for and we're going to
work towards that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Sadie just says Michael, like Sunny D, is that
your weakness?

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
I don't like son Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
That is kind of hilarious, though.
Remember we were talking aboutbeing intuitive.
She just threw us for a loop.
Try to trick us.
She tricked you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
It called reverse your first psychology.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Yep, that's what they're going to say to you
Thanks for tricking us.
So now if, like I, ever believeanything that she says, I don't
know, maybe not gonna have toreverse it yeah.
So was there anything that, likeI want to go back to that whole
racer mentality right like, isthere anything that you would
have done to actually make itlike when you got done and you

(01:27:00):
were like, oh okay, I've crossedthe finish line in second place
, I'm proud of that, but Ireally wanted to have first
place, what could I have donebetter?
Do you go like debrief with theteam?
Do you hold accountability foryourself, like, what do you do
better?

Speaker 7 (01:27:13):
I think I just need to figure out where I can be
faster.
And I always go out.
We do Practice sessions wherewe'll just go out testing and
get seat time in the car.
That's the biggest thinglearning how the car is going to
work, learning where we couldbe faster and that race I just
we had a really good day.
I just wasn't driving hardenough.
Could you have gone harder?

(01:27:35):
I Lost most of my time in theprologue.
I didn't expect the guys to Beall out the whole 30 something
miles.
I had a pretty conservativepace that day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Has an advantage too, because a lot of people were
going out there and breaking,you know, the first five miles
and stuff.
So keeping a conservativemindset really helps, especially
in desert racing, because it'snot, you know, pedal to the
floor the whole time.
The cars can be temperamental,so yeah, that does help.

Speaker 7 (01:28:08):
Yeah, especially with it being the prologue, we ruin
our race when it wasn't the raceright.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Right.
Yeah, some people do look at itdifferently though.
People look at a prologue like,oh, this is my time to
Completely crush it, and somepeople are like, well, it's not
race day, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
So how do you put yourself in that, in that
mindset or in that position?
Do you just talk with your teamand be like, alright, what's
the plan?
And then you guys just all likecome together and figure it out
?

Speaker 7 (01:28:36):
Yeah, our, our team.
We work together really closelyso we're always working to make
the car better so we go faster.
And we knew that we werelacking a little bit during the
prologue.
So after we actually werestaying at Wayne Wayne's place
with all tech motorsports, andafter the prologue, we went and
did shocktuning so that our carcan work better for race day.

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So we're always trying toimprove to make sure that we are
Getting better, getting faster,so we could always compete with
the fastest guys there are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Yeah, that sounds like he's learning a lot along
the way to yeah, some gnarlypreparation for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
Yeah.
Yeah the last 10% takes 90% ofthe time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Yeah that's a really good way to look at it.
That's the first time everheard that you just have to get
to that last 10%.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, do you got anything elsefor Michael?

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
No, I just think he's doing such a great job.
I know some of thebehind-the-scenes stuff and I
really hope that Whatever worksout for him is just keeps him
pushing forward, because I knowthere's a lot of good stuff
coming for Michael yeah thankyou for sure, I'm rooting for
you.
Hey, keep kicking butt too andkeep that whole family vibe.
Dude, I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Yeah, for sure.
Is there anyone that you'd liketo thank?
Sponsors, family, friends, pitcrew.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
I want to thank my family, my mom and my dad.
They're they're the reason I'mdoing this my grandparents,
procraf, construction, mysponsors, like KWI, we were at
the race and we were havingclutching issues and they helped
us out right away.
They they got us all the partsthat we needed in Raceline

(01:30:12):
wheels.
But Procraft is a big help.
They are the title sponsor ofour race team and we couldn't do
it out that yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Hey, do you have a favorite, like victory, or
favorite moment that you'veexperienced so far?

Speaker 7 (01:30:26):
Uh, I have a couple.
So last year we we were able torace the Baja 1000 with Murray
racing and we were able to takehome the wind in the Turbo
forced induction class.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I think, big moment for us.

Speaker 7 (01:30:41):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
What car was that in?

Speaker 7 (01:30:44):
it was in Murray racing's can MX 3.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
They build a.
They build a solid platform too.
Yeah that's cool man.
That must have felt really good.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
Yeah, I was awesome to go out there and have the the
Murray's trust me to run a 300mile section during the Baja
1000 and it was.
It was really good experience.
I don't want to thank them forthat too.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
Yeah, not just that though, but like you're putting
yourself in a position whereyou're not used to your regular
program, you're not used toregular diet, like everything
changes when you're in a programlike that.
So was it easy for you to adaptthe?

Speaker 7 (01:31:17):
cars.
The UTV's are pretty similar.
The their car drove a littlebit different, but we just got
in and like we hadn't driven ituntil we were already down in
Loretto, and I mean, we got in,we knew, we figured the car out
and we hopped in and just racedour race and made sure we got it
to the Third driver becausethere was still 600 miles left

(01:31:41):
of the race.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Did you have to drive in that rain section?

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
We drove Not on the rain section.
We got in at 350 and drove to600 and it was a night section,
it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Would you drive the Baja 1000?
You'll have to see in thefuture.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Look at you with the secrets.
Thanks, michael.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
We really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:32:08):
Yeah, thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Yeah, later bud Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
All right, want to sign us off?
Yeah, I think you did a greatjob today, by the way, bella.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Oh, I think, I think, I'm trying you held down your
first.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
We'll call it race recap show.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
I know this was the first race recap, and with one
of my favorite races, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Yeah lots of stuff to unpack, like we talked about
before.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Let's think, some sponsors All right thanks to
everybody from KMC wheels.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
We really appreciate everybody.
Maxis tires Like I said, thoseguys have been helping out so
much and they're giving back tothe off-road community.
So whenever you guys have achance, if you guys need new
tires or anything for your utv,please visit them or go down to
your dealership and ask if theyhave some maxis tires.
They have two different ones.
The razor works really reallywell.
If you're doing trail riding,that's what I use because I

(01:32:56):
don't do the rocks very much,and then for the rocks you can
use the Rockzilla.
That was just a super good tireat koH.
Thanks a motel, thanks to shocktherapy, jail, audio, evolution
, power sports and Zollingerracing products.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
All right, we signed in all yeah, let's do it.
We'll see you guys at Bella's,at Bella's corner.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
episode four no, this is episode five, so we got
episode six.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Oh my gosh hey remember what we said.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Episode seven is when you really made it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Oh yeah, boss, so Hopefully we'll get there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
Thank you guys very much for tuning in.
The koH recap was awesome.
See you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Thanks for listening to the dirt life show.
See you next week you.

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