Redefining Limits: A Journey through Racing, Diabetes and Resilience with George Hammel

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, george
Hamill.
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
I am Bella Rashard, your hostfor the evening.
We are filming episode four ofBella's Corner.
So today we're taking a littlebit of a different approach.
We are interviewing the man,the myth, the legend, george
Hamill, who interviews everybodyelse, so it should be exciting.

(00:30):
Behind us we have Zach.
He's producing this episode.
So if you guys have anyquestions or comments, just
leave them down and we will getto him.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I think it's going to be pretty fun Bella.
I like your idea of having theshow in a more intimate
environment.
I think it's going to be prettycool.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
And well, the guys at Vision Cannabis, Kyle and the
whole crew, let us stay here.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, thank you so much for letting us post up and
talk about some racing and somegood conversations.
Yeah, we're really excited toget started.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I feel like it's really cool because they have a
nice comfy couch in an off-roadspot like a shop with all these
cool products, right.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, you got to chill somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What's on the roster for today, man?
So, should I be nervous?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, no.
No.
We're keeping it chill, buttoday we're going to just get a
little more intimate.
You know, some deepconversations kind of not steer
away from racing, but, you know,get more on a personal level.
So I'm pretty excited.
But before we dive into that,let's thank some sponsors.
I we have some pretty similarsponsors, but I'll start with

(01:36):
the ones that I got.
So thank you Motul foreverything, and KMC wheels and
Evolution Power Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
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You can use a discount codeDirt Life over at Shock Therapy,

(02:05):
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You can save a whole bunch ofmoney on limousine scraps during
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They just came out with somenew pro r parts too, so that's
pretty sweet.
The guys over at JL Audio, theysupported us big time at Camp
Razor, so it was cool to seethose guys.
They got a bunch of newproducts for Can-Am cars, Like
you were saying.
Evolution, Power Sports, Bellathey have all the cool trick

(02:25):
stuff and they even have a newturbo kit for the pro hours.
It's insanely cool.
We saw them doing some I don'tknow what you want to call it
like sand drag, drag racing Dude.
It was like almost wheelingthose cars.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Those are fast.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I know it's pretty badass.
There's older racing products,guys.
You can use the code Dirt Life,tyrods, radius Rods, all that
stuff Match up with your ShockTherapy steering rack and all
those other parts, man, I reallylike.
I like to thank our sponsors somuch, because that's the only
way that we get to have thesecool shows, like they bring Zach
down from Washington and allthat stuff.
It's pretty nice.

(02:57):
Did you already tell everybodywhere they could see the show?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, I didn't.
So Facebook, YouTube, GooglePlay, Spotify, Share and with
all your friends and family sothey can watch us.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yep, and slide into the DMs anytime too.
Yes, so, and if you guys haveDMs for Bella, send them to the
Dirt Life show.
We'll get access for Bella sothat she can do it, but if not,
up until then, you can send itin and one of us will check it
and we'll send it over to Bellaso she can answer your guys's
questions too.
Some of the people on Instagrammight not have seen the intro
that you just did, so tell themwhat we got going today.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, so today we're getting a little more intimate
and personal, just kind oftalking about, you know, mental
health and like we do want tobring up diabetes because it's
something we do have in common.
But yeah, we're just we'retaking a different approach
today.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So I'm really excited to get to learn more about
George and a little bit moreabout me and kind of just you
know it's funny is like I reallylike that you're doing this,
because the reason that Istarted the Dirt Life show was
because I've always been so into, well, different action, sports
and stuff right, but like offroad in general, and I always
felt like, wow, like I reallyknow all these people like

(04:06):
because I see them on socialmedia and stuff.
And then I was thinking tomyself one day it's like I don't
really know them, like I don'tknow anything about them
personally, like I know whattheir last race was, right, but
I really have zero idea Like arethey a loving person?
Are they caring?
Like what have they beenthrough in their life?
So when you said like let's doit, I was like, oh my gosh, it's
perfect.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, I think it's so cool getting on a personal
level and just getting kind oflike to know people, because
then when you do go race withthem, you know like, OK, I can
be cool with this person off thetrack, or you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, totally.
And plus I get to wear one ofmy favorite bands American
Nightmare T-shirt.
I don't have to wear sponsoredT-shirts as I'm the guest today.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, yelp.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
So what's your favorite music?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I like everything there's no favorite.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You can't say that oh there's no favorite.
You can't say you can't have afavorite of everything.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I have a playlist that's at least like, oh like,
probably 100 hours long.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I'm not, no way.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
You could drive from like here.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
All the way across the country.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, and still have songs left over.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Holy crap, like you don't have any songs that are
just like on repeat.
No, no way, ok, I got to turnmy phone off, sorry.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
You're good.
I know it's kind of weirdinterviewing you.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I guess there's no audio, zach.
Ok, you want to keep going, orOK?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, and we can reduce some of the stuff, zach,
if you want, it's no problem.
We're in a loose program overhere.
Bella, I don't know if you knewthat.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
It's more chill today .

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Still professional but chill, so we make mistakes,
that's OK.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I'll let these super fans know that Zach is working
on it.
Yeah, all right.
So if there, if there's noaudio, then we're going to have
to wait a little bit, but we canhave a conversation together.
Yeah, once it.
Once it comes up.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Oh, you realize.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So I think there's a marker over there in the right
hand corner of the screensack,that's a yellow marker for the
audio next to the live output.
Ok, got it.
Check, check, mike.
Check, one, two, three, one,two, three.
I can't hear it on my left ear.

(06:16):
Turn it up Blue 22 said Hi.
Yeah, my mom said no audio.
On YouTube too, she's watching.
I'll just wave to her.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Hi George's mom.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
OK, all right, Bell.
So how about we do this?
Let's give it one more go.
Let's start from the top Three.
Two, one go.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
I'm Bella Bressard, your host.
We are filming episode four ofBella's Corner Today.
Behind us we have Zach, theproducer for this episode.
So if you guys have anyquestions or comments, leave
them down below and we will getto them.
We are taking a differentapproach today.

(07:01):
We are going to get to know theinterviewer, the man, the myth,
the legend, george Hamill.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So Well, thank you.
I don't know about the wholelegend status, but, like, let's
just try to figure it out, seeif anybody likes what kind of
stuff we talk about today.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, yeah.
So today we are getting more ona personal level, kind of just
getting to know me, getting toknow him and, you know, steering
a little bit away from theracing and more of like deep
conversations and just kind oftalking about life in general.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
So I love the idea.
Like we just talked about thisa little bit before the audio
was fixed and like I think it'sso cool, like the reason that we
started the Dirt Life Show awhile back was because, like I
always went to the races and I'mlike, oh, I, I know German and
graph, like I see him on socialmedia or I know, like I don't
know Bryce Menzies or whoever itwas, but like do we really know

(07:49):
them?
You know, like we know theirpublic persona, like we know
them on social media, buttruthfully, we don't know, like
what they do, like where they goeat, what their favorite foods
are.
We don't know, like, how theyare, if they're loving, they're
caring, or if they're mean orthey're, you know, great, like
whatever human beings they are.
So when you said, like dude, Iwant to get like a little bit
more in depth, I was like that'samazing that you want to do

(08:10):
that.
Yeah, yeah, I definitely want toget to know you guys and have
you guys know us, and Well, Ithink it's cool too, because
you're giving yourself anopportunity to really connect
with people, and I can onlyimagine you probably already
have other people on your listor in your head that you want to
interview to oh yeah, I got awhole list.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
You guys will just have to stay tuned and wait for
that one.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, look at you doing the plug, so people come back.
Yes and yeah, so we do haveZach behind the scene.
So if you guys want to send incomments or whatever, ask them
to Bella.
And we also have social mediaplatforms too.
So like how can they hit us upon social media if they want?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
They can hit us up through Facebook and YouTube and
Google Play and Spotify Sharewith your friends and family and
through Dirt life DMs.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
So yeah, if you slide in the DMs for the dirt life.
You know, if you have aquestion for Bella directly, we
need to give you the passwordfor that so you can access it
too.
But yeah, for now just send itin, so you have a question and
we'll forward it over to Bellaand she can talk to you and
answer your guys's questions too.
It's really cool that she'sdoing all this stuff and we're
really proud of her.
Thank, you?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, it's a, it's a learning experience.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It really is, though, but you're doing so good.
I mean, you're four episodes inyour audio professional.
You're like better than all ofus.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, I do learn from the best.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh hey.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, before we dive in, we should probably think
some sponsors and first of all,thank Vision Canopies for
letting us use this beautifulspot so that we're comfortable
and, you know, able to recordand stuff.
Oh, that's me.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
There you go, OK.
Ok.
Yeah, it was really nice ofKyle and everybody over here at
Vision Canopies.
We got to talk with them alittle bit today too, so now we
can see some of the commentsthat are coming up on Instagram
too, so all right.
So the sponsors that we shareare who?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Sponsors that we share are Motool.
Thank you guys.
You guys have amazing products,evolution Power Sports wearing
them right now.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's a six sweater.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I know right, I thought it was pretty cool, and
then KMC Wheels.
You guys are the best out there, so thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, we actually got the Hoonigan's KMC and all
those guys we got to go to a KenBlock video premiere yesterday.
Obviously everybody was alittle bit sad like going out
there, but it was really cool.
Like it was a lot of heartwrenching times but it was
really cool to just see likeeverybody had a smile on their
face because he brought togetherso many people.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It's like one of those things that you know it's
exactly what you're doing here.
You're communicating withpeople and you're really
touching people and gettingIntimate with people and sharing
stories and stuff like that,and it was cool that he's done
that his whole life too, right,so it's a lot of similarities
there.
Okay, so let's thank the restof the sponsors.
Thank you, guys, or, excuse me,thank the guys over at shock
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Speaker 1 (11:33):
Thank you guys.
So what do we start?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I don't know, man, what do you got?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh, I got PowerPoints and questions and Lot you want
to start with a little intro?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, okay, go for it , we'll let you go with you.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, it's a for you.
Well, george Hamill is alwaysthe interviewer, but I never
really see him get interviewed,so this is a little different.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, usually it happens like in a non-off-road I
don't know context, I guess youcould say because a lot more
people are less Interested in myoff-road racing than they are
about my life, like a lot ofpeople like to hear about that
because of so many of the thingsthat we're gonna get into
tonight.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Right.
So you have experienced a lot alot of accidents, a lot of
racing, a lot of, a lot of lifein general.
So it'll definitely be fun tounpack everything.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, it has been, while it's actually getting my
brain going already.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, we do, yeah.
So I guess we can start withquestion number one that I kind
of want, like this question kindof like applies to me too, I
guess, but I mean I guess forevery really any racer out there
with like pressure and stuff,but I want to bring up feeling
the pressure from others in yoursupport system and success.

(12:49):
Are you type of person thatworks well under pressure?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I would say it's one of the things that drives me.
I saw an interview the otherday Well, actually, I saw two.
I saw one with Elon Musk and Isaw one with Dana White from the
UFC, and what?
The boards that are gonna comeout of my mouth are gonna sound
very Egotistical andself-centered when I say this,
but let me follow it up withwhat I actually feel, right.

(13:14):
So both of them said Do theycare what people think about
them?
And their answer was the sameas mine no, I don't give a fuck.
I got all what people thinkright, because my general
consensus is is that everybodylives their life in a normal
state and I say that in quotes.
Right, they think certainthings are normal, or they think

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acting a certain way is normal,or they let people judge them
and say, oh, you or look ugly,or you're big or you're small or
whatever it is right.
Well, those don't.
Things don't really matter,right?
Those things don't actuallyPertain to the way that you
should feel.
They only do because you letthem.
So if you don't give an F, thenit doesn't matter.

(13:56):
Like you can actually make alot more progress in life, and I
was actually having aconversation today that a lot of
the things that I've done in mylife and a lot of the things
that I've overcome or achievedhave been because I'm naive, and
what that means is I just don'tunderstand, or I don't know
what I don't know, so I just gofor it right.

(14:17):
And so if somebody tells me Ican't, I don't understand.
When they say that, like itdoesn't, hit me because I know
like that doesn't make sense.
When you say that like I know, Ican yeah like I should be able
to do this and you should beable to.
You're just limiting yourself,so it's kind of weird when you
think about it in an openperspective.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah, I totally agree .
I think that you have likeControl over you, know what you
let affect you and what youdon't let affect you, who you
listen to, who you take advicefrom, who you you know steer
clear from.
You have control over all ofthat.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So I I definitely agree with you and if you, if
you live your life like that,with an open perspective, I do a
little bit of motivationalspeaking, sometimes with kids
and with big businesses andstuff like that right, and I
always tell people I live mylife by three things and those
three three things areperspective, choices and

(15:11):
accountability.
If you have an open perspective,you can see things clear, like
Everything is infinite right.
You can see things clearly likeyou have no limitations.
But if you mess up and yourchoice was wrong or your choice
was right, as long as you'reaccountable For that bad choice,

(15:32):
you're not gonna make the samemistake again.
Yeah, so you can go around andround and keep making yourself
better.
So the circle keeps completingitself and you keep raising
yourself up as an individualBecause you're not limiting
yourself and you're not tellingyourself that you did something
bad and letting it sink and setin Right.
You're just being like, okay,you know what I messed up, I'm
accountable, I'm going forwardwith it and my perception is

(15:54):
clear that I'm not gonna makethat same choice and mistake
again.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah, I 100% agree.
I think even like especiallybeing like open-minded and you
said, like just having a bigperspective, like especially
with racing and Anything in life, if you have an open mind or,
like you know, willing to learnmore and willing to experience
more, you'll grow so much moreit would just sit there and
think like Like, oh, you knowI'm the best, or oh, that's,

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this is my limit, this is my, mypeak.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's too close-minded, huh Right, you
know what that's?
A funny like a, a great thingto bring up, and I I think I
probably learned a lot of thatfrom racing.
Yeah because racers, like oneof the crazy excuse me, racers
one of the craziest things isthey have a very short memory
span.
For good reason, because theydon't want to know that they
messed up in the last corner.
They just move on and don'tmake that same mistake again.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, yeah, I understand.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
if you dwell on something, you're never gonna be
ready for the next thing, youknow how many times have you
been on the track and been like,oh dude, I totally blew that
last corner and then, like, allof a sudden, you're like, well,
not making that mistake again,you just like keep shredding
after that exactly, it goes inand out the other.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I made a mistake, but I'll recover and so there you
go.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
That was your perception choices and
accountability, and one singleracer sentence.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, so I guess we are gonna tie racing into
everything, because that's whatwe do right, right, and it
teaches us just.
I Guess we've learned a lot oftraits from it and I don't know
is that some of the stuff thatyou've learned?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
the same stuff we're talking about?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
I definitely think that Iwouldn't be the person I am
today without all the racingexperiences that I've had.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Do you have like one thing that really like you know
that it changed you.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
I would.
I would say the California 300last year.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
What was the thing that made it so, I don't know,
heartfelt or specific for you.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
It was a pretty big accident for me.
I mean just even getting likephysically hurt in general, but
more of like I feel like I waspretty close-minded and like you
know, I'm really gettingsomewhere in racing, which I
really was, but After thathappened, it kind of like set me
back like wow, I do have somelearning to grow, I do have.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
You know what I mean and it opens up your perspective
, right.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Right, so you can make me yeah, change my point of
view and like it's kind of whatit's kind of wild to think that
, right yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Somebody wants a shout out real quick.
Can you see it?
No, I can't read that it saysred off-road, shout out to red
off-road.
Please shout out to redoff-road.
Thank you for watching, guys.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Thank you for everybody for watching when
you're doing this without youguys.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So yep, exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Just all right, I do have some more questions.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Racing is something that has shaped us in humans, as
humans, in many ways, butwhat's one thing that you will
take from racing into the restof your life?
We kind of just talked aboutthis, but I Think, one of the
main things.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Honestly, I've taken a lot of little things, but I
think one of the main things isI guess it sounds cliche, but
the never give up attitude right, because no matter what, like,
your goal in racing especiallyin long-distance endurance,
off-road racing is to never giveup.
You want to always cross thefinish line.
They say, to finish first,first you must finish, and I

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think that's something thateverybody should know.
Like I said, it kind of soundscliche, but it's a very, very
true statement and that's thesame thing that happens in life
To finish first, first you mustfinish right, like so, if you go
out there and you just killyourself right away Like I
thought I could when I was youngyou start slowing down very
quickly and it starts showingyou very, very deep life lessons

(19:31):
.
Yeah, and so racing has taughtme To be able to manage things
in a different way so that youcan actually reach the finish
line.
I mean, I've gotten hurt somany times, I've probably
shortened my lifespan by 20years at least, but I'm still
going to do every single thingin my power to live the best,

(19:52):
longest possible life from hereon out.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, exactly you speaking about like being in an
accident and stuff like that.
You got into an accident at ETVWorld Championships in 2019,
and I think I have a questionabout this actually.
But after experiencingsomething like that, like how
did that specific Incidentchange your perspective on life

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in general, like not just racing?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
so that this is a pretty big question to be honest
with you, because it requires alittle bit of backstory, right,
to be able to get to lead up toit, right, like.
So I was hurt a million timesbefore this like, but I decided
I wanted to become aprofessional UTP racer, right, I
had gone through a professionaldirt bike racing.
I got paralyzed, I got all ofthese crazy things like I

(20:43):
completed an Iron man, I did theX games, like All of these
crazy cool things.
I was business partners withMark and Tom from blink 182,
like.
I had all of these differentlife experiences in between
because I was hurt then and itmade me.
It made it taught me so manylessons and just made me into a
different person.

(21:03):
But I still had that racingblood in me, right, and so I
wanted to race you TVs and Idecided that, okay, well, I'm
gonna race you TVs at thehighest possible level I can and
I couldn't like.
I'm not able-bodied, I can'tmove my legs very well, I was
locked, walk with a lamp and Iwas told by the doctors I would
never walk again.
And all of a sudden I startracing you TVs and we have these

(21:24):
special hand controls likethese, the shifter on the
steering wheel in the clutch andjust give me on the Center
console in the clutch so I coulduse my legs and limited
capacity, but I Was still fast,like I was fast enough to get a
factory Yamaha ride, like it wasawesome, right, and I Did
really well.
You know we were Winners likeZach has some pictures like we

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were winners on the top of thepodium, like all kinds of crazy,
cool stuff.
Zach can probably show some ofthe stuff that we've done in the
past, like in the racing, butit was just cool.
Like it was cool because I gotthe family vibe, the, the team
vibe.
Like I learned so much but Iwanted to Excel and off-road
more and build off-road as awhole.

(22:08):
I Didn't see very much value indoing all of these different
racing series.
So I thought, okay, well, if I'mgonna create value for my
sponsors, I need to do all thesespecial events right and start
getting more notoriety and doingmore social media and all of
the things that we talk about onthe dirt life show all the time
.
And when we started doing that,we decided that we were going

(22:31):
to race the UTV WorldChampionship.
And in 2019 which is what?
Four years now, yeah, yeah.
So it's crazy.
And I was.
We had to work on the car.
You know how, like when, whenyou have stuff go wrong and you
still have to get it done beforeyou start like take off, like
everybody's working on itovernight.
No, that's not.

(22:52):
So.
I was really tired.
The starting line.
I'm like really tired becausewe had a such a long night the
night before.
But we had a car in a decentspot, but I got a really crappy
whole shot.
So I ended up Having to pass.
Probably 15 people or so theyhave at the UTV World
Championship.
They start you in rows likeit's a staggered start.
So you have, like I don't know,10 people or 20 people in each

(23:13):
row and you take off and Thenthey have the next guys go 60
seconds later or whatever it is.
And so I took off and I had topass, and I think by about a
quarter of the way through thefirst lap I was probably past
most of the people, as I think,maybe in second or third, third
or fourth, and we're coming overthis little.
It was like a little bump intoa berm Right like, where you

(23:34):
kind of like scrub a car and hitthe brakes over and then you
crank into a turn.
And when we went in the turn Iwas getting ready to come to the
inside and like pass this nextdriver, and they checked up a
little bit so my one of my tiresbarely nick, like barely nicked
one of their tires.
So I kind of got the car alittle bit upset and I bicycled
it.
You know what that is when youget up on two wheels.

(23:55):
And I bicycled it so lightlythat I rode it all the way and I
was about to put it back downon all four wheels but the berm
kind of nudged it just a littlebit.
It tipped over enough where Ididn't even scratch, it barely
even tipped over and I was likedang it, man, like that sucks.
But I was thinking like dude, Imight be strong enough to push

(24:16):
it back on all four wheels.
So I waited till I alreadypassed by, like everybody, like
in the row, passed by and Downthe way a little bit, there was
a photographer and he was likeLetting us know if it was clear
or not, and I walked to the sideof the track.
And when I walked to the sideof the track it was fine, like I
was just gonna wait there for alittle bit, and I was like, all
right, let everybody pass byagain for the next row.

(24:36):
And then I walked down there tolike see if I could push it
over.
And I was like crap, and Ican't push it over, like it's
too heavy.
So my race is pretty much doneright now.
Like I got to wait for thesafety crew or whatever to get
my car out of the way.
So I was like, okay, well,screw it, I'm just gonna go wait
on the side of track and pop asquat and just wait for a little
while.
And All of the stuff that I'mtelling you right now is what I

(24:58):
learned afterwards, because Idon't I don't remember really
this in my brain, but I Startedwalking to the side of the track
and I went behind my car.
So I don't know if this isgonna make a good audio
representation on on iTunes orwhatever, but the are in podcast
land but if you want to checkit on YouTube, my car was

(25:19):
flipped over on its side, likewhat my cell phone is positioned
here and this is the bottom ofthe car, and I walked around
this way.
The berm was here and I walkedaround this way and the side of
the track was over here.
So I'm just gonna walk to theside of the track and then just
hang out.
Everybody was coming over thisway and going through the turn,
so all the guys had cleared andthey went through and then I

(25:39):
Walked.
It was clear no, didn't hearanybody or whatever.
I walked through and I wascoming through and right as I
stepped to the side of my car,somebody came over and they were
just like right by me and theycleared me.
But right as they cleared me,somebody rammed into the back of
them and when they ran to theback of them, it put that car
right into me, in between my carand their car.

(26:00):
So I got squished in between.
And you know how, on a race carwhere you would put your hand on
the window sill of your likepassenger car, there's a door
bar right and it's all chrome,molly or steel and there's an
window net.
Well, there was so much of animpact that my body broke
through the window net and thedoor bar, went through my neck
brace and Up through my helmetand uppercut me to the jaw.

(26:22):
And when I uppercut me to thejaw it shattered my jaw, it
shattered the sides of my skull,my eyes fell out of my head,
broke all my nasal cavities andshattered my ears.
So it completely like disruptedmy whole skull, yeah, and as it
smushed me, it broke mycollarbone and a couple other
bones too.
So I laid, I talked to thedriver and I laid dead in his
lap and he said he didn't knowwhat to do.

(26:43):
So he sat there for a coupleseconds and he finally peeled
off and I just fell on theground and he thought I was gone
and he said, okay, well, theonly way that anything is gonna
happen that I can benefit him isif I turn around and I go block
people from running him over.
So he turned around and wentover, but by that time, you know
, I don't know how many peoplefive, ten, 15 people had already

(27:04):
ran me over yeah and he wasflagging people to not run me
over anymore.
And At some point one of thosepeople woke me up when they ran
me over.
So I don't know if that's likea miracle or whatever it was,
but so they woke me up and I wassitting pretty close to my car,
like I was still pretty close,maybe five feet or ten feet away

(27:26):
from the car, and I knew like Iwas really fucked up man, like
really really bad.
And During dirt bike racing Ihad always learned like if you
break your ankle, you take offyour boot right away because
otherwise You're not gonna beable to like get your boot off
because it's gonna be so muchpain, right?
So you kind of take inventoryon the things that are messed up

(27:46):
.
You'd like know, like, oh mygod, something's wrong, what's
wrong?
You try to figure it out.
Well, for me, I couldn't see, ICouldn't hear and I didn't know
anything.
I was in like the amount ofpain is like Undescribable.
How bad it was right.
And all I did was like I gowhat is all this like?

(28:09):
Is there fuel on me?
Like there I'm wet, like youhave a fire suit on, and I was
like the fire suits soaking wetlike what's wrong, right, and a
fire suits thick like you like.
And then I tasted it because Icouldn't see her, couldn't, and
I was like that's blood, yeah.
So I immediately knew the firstthing that I had to do was take

(28:31):
off my helmet, and I'm so gladI did, because my head would
have exploded inside of myhelmet.
Oh yeah, because it swelled upso quickly.
So I took off my helmet andthen I started feeling around
because I couldn't see anythingand I find, and I felt the
bumper of my car and I was like,okay, if that's the bumper,
that means that I'm racing, likeI'm an race.
And I was like I remember, likeI had enough self-awareness to

(28:55):
be like I got to go protectmyself.
So I just went to the back ofthe car like crawled over, like
on my knees or whatever, and Ijust leaned up against the skid
plate of my car and just satthere and then Finally, like I
don't know how long it was orwhatever, but finally, because
again I I'm only telling youthis because of what people told

(29:16):
me happened Do you know whoBrett Carpenter is?
Brett Carpenter was themarketing guy at rigid
Industries and now he's the Ithink he's a race director.
Is his title for Polaris.
He had never raced a UTV racein his life.
Just want to go check it out.
Mike and Danielle Gardner lethim use their car and he was the
only one out of 300-400 entriesthat stopped for me.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
And when he stopped he had some medical training in
the military and he helped yeah.
And so he supported me until theEmergency crew could get there.
No one see emergency crew gotthere.
Then it was all hands on deck,threw me in the helicopter and
they actually took me toBullhead City and Bullhead City

(30:02):
is not a hospital where you takethat bad of a person.
So I ended up going to LasVegas and starting to get you
know stuff done there.
But the crazy part about it isis that's barely the surface
like this craziest part about mylife starts two weeks after
that or like a week and a halfafter that.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
So you, you know, going through all this stuff,
right, like in a normalsituation, you get to the
hospital and they can fix brokenbones and they can, like, get
you back to normal, right.
Well, in certain situations youhave you're so messed up that
they have to wait for your bodyto do certain things before they
can touch you.
And One of the things that Ilearned was that you have Fluid

(30:45):
around your spinal cord andaround your brain and that fluid
is what protects it, like it'skind of like a cushion.
Well, unfortunately for me, Idamaged a lot of that stuff and
all that stuff was leaking outof my face, so it would leak out
of my nose like.
So my nose was broken and allthese things are like Bad inside
my head.
And they said the only way wecan do surgery is Wait to for

(31:08):
that to stop, because otherwise,if we do surgery and it keeps
going, we're gonna kill themright.
So I think it was roughly abouta week, maybe a little bit
longer than a week.
I had to sit there in the bedwith just being broken like
super broken yeah and it was bad, like it was really.
I'm so lucky this is one of thethings that we'll probably talk

(31:29):
about tonight to have a strongsupport mechanism With family
and friends like I wouldn't havemade it had it not been for
them.
It was tough, but I Feel weirdtalking about this still, like
I've done so many interviews andI've said the same stuff that
I'm gonna say right now, butlike it Feels weird for me to

(31:52):
say it because I most of thetime feel like people don't
believe me when I say it, likeit's getting me Teared up just
thinking about it.
But I Was sitting in thehospital bed or laying in the
hospital bed one night and haveyou ever had like a really bad
nurse that you were just like,oh my gosh, she was such a bee
like I can't, I can't deal withthis girl like, or guy or

(32:13):
whoever it is?
I had one of those and I Alwaysasked her I'm like, dude, I'm
hurting so bad, can I pleasehave some pain medicine?
She's like no, you didn't wait,your wait, your turn.
Like you got to wait four morehours or whatever it is.
And I'm like, oh god, like.
And then I would wait fourhours and I'd ask her again and
she's like no, you have to waitlonger, you have to wait longer.
It was horrible and so I hatedher and I Was in so much pain.

(32:40):
This one night it was probablyOne o'clock in the morning, two
o'clock in the morning, like amiddle of night, right shoot, it
could have been eight o'clockfor all I know, because it was
just dark out.
But I Kept asking her and shesaid no, no, no.
And then, as I'm laying there,I just all of a sudden I'm just
like, oh my god, she must havegave me pain medicine, because I

(33:02):
feel great.
This is the best I felt inyears.
Like I've never felt so good,like I feel liberated, I feel
free, I don't have a headache,my body feels good, like all of
these things.
Like I feel like I could run amile right now.
And I just look and I'm like Wow, that guy looks so happy, like

(33:26):
he looks so peaceful and calm.
But it was me.
Yeah, I was looking at me and Iwas like what the heck?
Like Wow, I've never felt thisgood before.
And he looks amazing, like I'min the best place I've ever been
, like this is so awesome.
And I still, to this day, can'texplain the amount of I Don't

(33:53):
want to say pleasure, but theamount of euphoria that I've
ever felt.
I mean, it still is like mefeel goosebumps or whatever, but
anyways.
So I Don't know how long it was, but all of a sudden I hear all
these Alarms going off and allthis stuff and I hear, like this
other guy that was like thenurse's assistant Going, he's

(34:14):
back, he's back, he's back, he'sback.
I'm like looking around, I'mlike who's back?
Like I was the only one in here.
Yeah like I didn't, wasn'tsharing a room with anybody Like
, and I asked a dude I'm likewhat's wrong?
He's like you're okay, you'reokay.
I'm like what do you mean, dude?
Like, of course I'm okay, I'mtalking to you like duh, yeah

(34:35):
and.
Then the nurse that sucks, sherolls in, she's like what's
going on?
And the guy's like he was gone.
But now he's back, like all themachines are back to normal,
and she goes oh, that's cool.
He goes.
What do you want me to do?
Do I need to, like call it inor something?
And she goes no, he's fine andthat was it.
There was nothing else.

(34:57):
Like it was such a weirdsituation.
They don't.
But the only thing that I cantell you about what the question
that you asked was is like howdid it change my life and what
were the things like?
I Don't know how to explainthese words or how to get these
points across, but from thatexperience I learned that Almost

(35:18):
nothing else matters, yeah,except for what you do, because
everybody's gonna have that samemoment.
Every single person on theplanet's gonna have that same
moment.
So the only thing that mattersis how good of a person you are
until you get to that moment.
That's it, nothing else.
Your car doesn't matter, howmuch you bitch because somebody

(35:39):
did something that none of thatmatters Matters how much you
love people.
Matters how much you Do to helppeople, and it matters how much
happiness you provide foryourself.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's it like.
It's so simple all these otherlittle things are I don't want
to say this because again, thisis another cliche statement
they're nominal.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
But it's very, very crazy.
What Situations can teach you?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, like a literal pause in time.
I didn't.
I guess I didn't know the fullStory or really, like I mean I
knew the story but not into thatdepth, I would say, but that's
insane, I mean there's a lot oflittle details that go on, and
in between all that stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Very meaningful stuff to right, like people come in
to visit you, right,conversations that happen,
things that impact you.
But the story still blows meaway all the time.
I even told Zach when we'regetting ready for the show
because I was thinking about,like, giving him pictures so he
could show people.
And when I gave him some ofthose pictures of the accent I
go dude, I can't look through myphone anymore.

(36:46):
Yeah, like this is all you get.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Dude, like I can't do it and yeah.
But it is what it is and I'mhappy to be here with you today
right me too but I thinkdefinitely, like I don't know,
that I wouldn't say that somepeople are supposed to go
through stuff like that, but Ido want to say that because I
think, like, at the end of theday, everything happens for a
reason and I mean, yes,sometimes you're dealt cards

(37:11):
that you know Either you didn'tdeserve or you didn't.
You worked all so hard forsomething and you didn't get it
and you got the completeopposite, like you.
But I think, yeah, everythingdoes happen for a reason,
whether you know it taught youto meet new people or like to
Change some of your ways, or toyou know.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
But I definitely would say that it puts you on a
different life path.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That's for sure, yeah , like, if I mean even like I
Guess for me it's a littledifferent because I've never
really had like an experiencelike that, but like even with
getting diagnosed with type one,like I would say that was, yes,
pretty altering, but more oflike Altering my brain and not
necessarily like the way Ishould be eating or the way you

(37:59):
know.
It was more of like wow, like Ihave to.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Explain to everybody what just happened.
You know and like well it, itchanges your, your life.
Yeah like it's a life changingthing.
I don't know if anybody's evertold you this, but I learned at
a young age that everybody goesthrough at least one what they
call Significant emotionalevents in their life, and for

(38:23):
you, that's clearly one, right?
Yeah, some people go throughmultiple, but those things are
literally their life altering.
Yeah, situations in their lifeand I think anybody like a
broken leg, type 1 diabetes, aheart attack, cancer, like all
of these things are, whetherthey're tests or whether they're
detrimental to your life Arevery life-changing, right.

(38:46):
Like the only way that you canget through those things is if
you give it your all Like forthe rest of your life.
Having type one is not going tobe easy, no, but it doesn't
mean that you're any different.
Yeah, you're 100% capable ofstill living a fantastic life.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, I think I sometimes constantly like have
to remind myself of that, butSomebody that you know is very
close to you just commented inJust for charges, said something
much bigger than us all madetheir presence known and Gave
you some peace in that moment ofextreme pain.
Yeah, absolutely incrediblestory.

(39:24):
Thanks, we really appreciate it.
Yes, but like everybody hasthese right, like I Think they
just may not have it the sameway, or I Want everybody to make
sure that they understand andabsorb those emotions and those
events.
If you push it away, that's theworst thing you can do, right,

(39:45):
because if you bottle it up andyou push it away, it's never
going to help you as a humanbeing.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's only gonna damage you or limit you from
learning new things.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Well, just think about it.
What if you said now, after Idon't have type one, yeah, I
could eat sugar, I just got totake more insulin.
Well, you'd gain weight, you'dbe lazy, you wouldn't have a
good mindset, you'd want to belike Breaking the rules all the
time.
That doesn't teach you anythingright.
It only teaches you how to dothe wrong thing right.

(40:17):
So if you go forward with itlike what you're doing you stick
to the rules, you make surethat you're on top of your
schedule regimen for yourmedicine, you eat the right
things it's actually gonnabenefit you more because now
you're Into food, now you mightbe more into fitness than you
were before.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That's life-changing, on a good note or even meeting
new people, like I can't tellyou the amount of Different
people that I've met, includingyou, who, like through type one
diabetes you know, like Iwouldn't have built these
relationships and known thesepeople if I didn't get diagnosed
, and I think that's 100% ofblessing in disguise.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Have you ever had anybody reach out to, or do you
have any examples of people thathave reached out to you that
are like you're like, wow, thatreally helped me.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, so one person that reached out to me through
Instagram DMs her name isSaviana, but she's type name, I
know.
But she's type one diabetic andI learned so much from her I
don't I don't think I cannecessarily like be the diabetic
that I am today without her.
For sure Like, there's justlike little tips that she's
taught me, but not only that.

(41:20):
Just to like not let peoplelike get to me and like
sometimes you know people makecomments that they don't
necessarily mean, but it's ormaybe they just don't know right
, they don't know or they'rejust trying to, you know, be a
kid and joke about somethingthat's not really like a joke
necessarily.
so she's really taught me how tolike handle situations like
that and Just yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
So even Birdman was saying like you have to embrace
it.
Yeah embrace the situation andjust like what does he say?
Power your life.
Positive.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, yeah, I 100% agree.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
What are some of the things that you had to do,
because, I mean, you had tochange a lot?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, well, I Obviously the physical side of
it, like I had to change the waya little bit and well, a lot of
it, and like you know, I haveto need to worry about medicine
and if it's cold or goingthrough airports and like just
Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Is it a pain in the butt to go through airport now?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Oh, because you were the monitor.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yes, I would do so.
One monitor monitors my bloodsugar.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
No, no, like.
What is it like the check pointdo at airport?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Oh, so if you go through like one of the medical
like not medical, but thescanning device, like metal, the
TSA.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yeah, it'll like some .
It sometimes it coulddeactivate some of like the next
comms or like Wig out or shut,like it kills it.
Yeah, pretty much because it'slike a whole sensor in you.
If it goes through anotherthing, it like message.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
So you like go around .

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, if you go around, if you get pad down Like
search through it's, it's amess.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, I, since I walk all messed up.
I get cavity search every timeat the airport.
It sucks, I hate it.
Yeah it's just the way it goes,though, dude.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It is, that's our new normal, I know hey, what if we
go through it together?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
We can just hang out.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
I know it's.
It becomes second nature onceyou like, you know, once you get
settled in and Start to reallylike live it through.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
But yeah, it's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Zach has a question so we got a question coming in
asking about what race preplooks like when you're a type
one diabetic versus a normalracer.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I feel like a dude.
Who's that from?

Speaker 3 (43:26):
That is from the realmers, mrs Realmers.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, it is a great question.
I feel like we could both verywell answer this.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, why don't you go first?

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Okay, um so, Before I got diagnosed race prep kind of
wasn't really a prep, like youknow it's just some uncrossables
in there, bro, let's go.
Yeah, it was uncrossables, itwas dr Pepper, it was.
You know, no sleep like justfull, full ham, like nothing,
really like Cross my mind, Iguess.

(44:00):
But after being diagnosed, likeConstantly having to check my
blood sugars, you know likemaking sure that I eat exactly
what I'm supposed to, at leasttwo days in advance before race,
because Everything affects it.
Like you could eat somethingand then it affect you hours
later, like it's crazy, and likeeven having like put sugar in

(44:21):
the car and make sure, like thatmy Codriver knows, like the
circumstances, that if somethingwere to happen, like he would
know exactly what to do.
Like it does look a lotdifferent and it's a couple
steps that you have to take, butit's worth it in the long run.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, totally Well, we actually share the same
Concepts with all this withMandy McLaren.
She's a type one as well, she'sfrom Tennessee but she also
races side by sides.
But I Kind of have a little bitsimilar answer.
I was a little bit furtheralong in my diabetic journey
when I started racing side bysides but, like so my crew chief

(44:56):
and my rest of my picker, theyall knew, and so Along with the
tools and tires and everythingthat they would have skittles,
yeah, and the reason is I useskittles is because it's not
chocolate, doesn't melt.
Yeah, sugar, right, and I hadfigured out how many Skittles it
takes to Combat my blood sugarand how I felt right.

(45:20):
So Usually they would have awhole bag and if I was nervous
or whatever, or I had low bloodsugar, I would say give me three
skittles, give me five skittles, whatever it is.
And there would be times I comeoff the track and I was a
little bit shaky, you know like.
But for the most part wemanaged it pretty well and as
the team grew and I think you'reprobably a lot like this too I

(45:42):
know that your family pays a lotof attention.
Your dad just had a healthybreakfast, like those kinds of
types of things.
Right, they start understandinga little bit more of the flow,
so to speak.
Right, and they know how tohelp you by what they see coming
from you.
Right?
So they go.
Bella, is your blood sugar alittle bit low?
Oh, thanks, dad, for noticinglike yeah or thanks mom, like,

(46:04):
yes, it is like, and then sothey'll give you whatever you
need to treat or whatever, andthen you can kind of get back in
the normal flow of being,because if you're in a situation
Like a race, it's very hard tothink about your own body.
Yes so there might be somethingmissing.
You might not know.
Your blood sugar is low, so Ithink that having that good
support mechanism around you andalso understanding your body

(46:27):
are basically the only twothings that you can do.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, you don't realize how much you rely on I
mean, a lot of people do rely ona co-driver.
But yeah, especially like bigshout out to Dylan Lumberg,
because he'll be sitting thereand I'll tell him he's
something's funky, somethingdoesn't feel right and even at
Vegas Torino, like we had to getout.
I was supposed to switch andco-drive for him racing but I

(46:50):
ended up having to get out ofthe car fully because I Was low
and I didn't realize it until Istarted making small mistakes.
And he was like I shouldprobably check, yeah, and he
checked and it was like 80 anddropping and I was like, oh,
like, and once you go low, it'sso hard to recover so quickly.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, totally.
So, and I mean well, in RexRoad actually said do you carry
anything in your door bags justin case of an emergency?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yes, I do, I carry a glucose tablet.
Just can be a little disgustingsometimes.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But are those orange ones?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yes, they're so suck so they're like little like
powdered tablets, but likelittle gel pack yeah, I have
your eight.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Those like fizz, like yes, that's like those things,
but they suck like they'rehorrible you choke on them and
they're just.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
It's kind of like eating like chalk like, yeah,
like unflavored baby powder in asmarties Like form, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, yeah and, and I always carried Skittles.
So yeah, yeah, man.
He says she carries gummy bears.
So that'd be a pretty easy oneto do too.
Don't carry chocolate.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
No, it melts.
I actually don't Do well withgummy bears, they never really
work or like gummy stuff and Ithink it's because like the
gelatin in it, like yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
So that's actually a good point to bring up.
So if you're talking about justtype one stuff, um I yeah it
not everything works foreverybody the same way right,
there's different Diabetics outthere, which is crazy, because
Not everyone uses the same thingto raise their blood sugar.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Not everyone has the same Carbed insulin ratio, like
it's just a lot to learn and alot to.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
It dude totally and it's a schooling on like biology
in your human body and you canactually feel these things
happening Like you're the testpatient.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Yes, the guinea pig the.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Like things that affect me a lot, or bananas,
pineapples like all it, likedude, like I'll die if I eat
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's so bad, yeah, but some people no problem right
, it's crazy, and learning, liketalking to different diabetics
about it too, like makes like mymind just even expand more,
like Hearing that you know I caneat things that sometimes bug
you or you can eat things thatsometimes don't work for me.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
It's so.
Side note, we got a littlesecret.
I got a message the other dayfrom someone I forgot who it was
from but there's sugar freehorchata.
I Know.
I don't know if we should tryit or not, but I kind of feel
like maybe one of us should.
But they said it might tastelike crap.
Yeah, even if it sucked, itwould still be worth the pain

(49:19):
just.
Hoping in anticipation thatit's delicious.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, wow, I love horchata.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I heard something beeping, was that you?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, that was me.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
So there you go.
Life is taking a turn.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
How do you feel?
Good, you feel okay.
Yes, we should keep going, oryou once not oh work, we're
going, we're going.
Hey, if you need one, I got apiece of Do you want it, I'm
good.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Okay, so yeah, but I do agree with you.
I think that like Stuff justhappens for a reason, and I mean
, obviously we're all on thisplanet to grow.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So do you think it's made you grow?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yes, I think there's been times where, like it's
obviously frustrating dude.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah especially if people are eating cheesecake
around you, you just want topunch them.
Oh, come on, man, let me get apiece.
How supportive is your familyand your brother and stuff?

Speaker 1 (50:17):
very supportive.
They're always there for me.
They're always.
You know, either the sugar orthe insulin, or you know even
not even just my family, but myclose friends too, like they
always usually know what's goingon.
They got my dexcom.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
They see my numbers has anybody ever tried to eat
like the sugar-free stuff, likeyou do, and be like?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, I think Cruz did it for a little bit Well,
like I was first diagnosed, andhe was like and I can't do this,
but I'll I'll watch you do itdude, it's so crazy like it does
.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It does exactly what we're talking about.
It affects other people's lives, but sometimes for a lot better
.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, it's, it is.
It is a trip.
I think more of what affectedme the most was kind of just
learning like that some peopleare gonna say things that they
you know that just like beingbuff faces about it right that
just come off wrong and theydon't mean it.
At least I don't think so.
But you know it's.
It's just like stuff like thatthat I think I've had to learn

(51:12):
to have some patience with is itlike?

Speaker 2 (51:14):
does that open up your brain to be like, well,
that person sucks, but like it's2023.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
I'm just gonna brush it off right at first I used to
really take it to heart andreally like be super sensitive
about it.
But, like you said at thebeginning, you know, like you
control what affects you or not.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
So yeah, exactly Ariana said you're the first
person in the family To havetype one and have taught us how
to be more aware of everyonearound us.
Yeah, see so like you'rehelping other people.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, thank you Ari.
But yeah, I definitely likewith all my family on both sides
, but even just my bigger family, not just my immediate they
they were very supportive when Iwas first diagnosed, like my
grandma and everything.
So it's just, it really justdepends on, like, who you let
affect you and not, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I think it can affect people in a positive way though
, too, cuz like there's been amillion times, people are like
dude, you're so skinny and I'mlike bro.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I don't eat sugar.
Yeah, like what do you expect?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, like it's so easy to just like.
And then then they asked melike how do you like?
Do you work out a lot?
I'm like, well, no, like I meanI should, but yeah, like if you
just don't eat sugar, you couldhelp yourself a lot too right,
yeah and it's crazy, though, too, like we were just having the
conversation I remember who waswith the other day but, um,

(52:33):
every single thing that you doin the world that I has sugar in
it.
Yeah, you drink a glass of milk.
It's like almost eating likehalf a Snickers bar a coffee, a
dr Pepper.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
It doesn't make dude Drink could equal like the
amount of sugar you need for theentire day, or like dude even
more than that, right?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Like, it's just crazy the amount of sugar that's
taken over us.
Have you ever heard the?
I don't know if I told you, butit's a, it's an analogy and you
can test it.
You know what a saltine crackeris, right?
Yes, so if you take a saltinecracker and you put it in your
mouth and you just let it sit onyour tongue for the amount of
time it takes to dissolve whenyou swallow, your body takes it

(53:12):
in the same way it would a packof sugar, because it takes all
of those carbohydrates andconverts them into sugars right,
and then when it gets into yourbody, then it gets dispersed.
Yes, and there's tricks to this, though.
So if you do that just on, theempty stomach goes in pure sugar
.
You do that after you've eaten10 pieces of broccoli.

(53:33):
The broccoli lines the insideof your tummy and your guts and
the sugar bypasses right past it.
Yeah, and only a little bitgets absorbed.
Yeah, so it's stupid becauseit's true, but, like, if you eat
your vegetables first, yourbody can process all the food
better.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Yeah, it's crazy the amount of stuff that you learn
about yourself, like Even withjust like food, like that.
But, zach, what do you got forus?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Beach girl at heart, wanted to kind of explain the
difference between type one andtype two diabetics and how it
affects you guys when you areout there.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Yeah, so who?
This is a lot.
I do get a lot of like thisthough, like when people say
what's the difference, you know,between one and two, and like
well, and there's even differentlevels of each one, but yeah,
right.
So I guess type one diabeticsit's Permanent, there's no cure

(54:26):
right and that in your bodyrequires insulin.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yes, yes, so yeah your pancreas is what produces
insulin.
Yes, and that is like so forany normal human being that
doesn't have diabetes, yourpancreas Will go into effect
like, let's just say, you eat apiece of cheesecake, like we're
just talking about.
Your pancreas goes on likedouble duty, yeah, and starts
combating it with the insulinthat you produce normally.
And it's just a normal humanbeing.

(54:51):
Well, somebody with diabetesDoesn't really have that
opportunity, because theirpancreas either works halfway or
doesn't work at all.
Yes, and then you take somesort of injection, or your pump
or whatever it is, and you putin what's usually pig insulin
and that pig insulin is whatfights it.
But the pig insulin doesn'twork as good as human insulin.

(55:12):
Right, and you have to be veryvigilant on the way that you do
your calculations to make surethat you're getting the right
recipe To combat what you'vejust intake, right.
So it's just.
It's a freaking science projectevery day.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, literally it's either a math calculation or a
science project, yep, but type 2it's more of I Don't want to
say self like doing, but it'smore of like choices that you
make For your body, whereas type1 it's not something that you

(55:48):
choose to do to yourself, butyeah, I would say that that's.
That's a big deal, like all ofthe, the math that goes into it
and everything right, and whatalso falls into type 2 is
People's pancreas.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Is that overproduced?
Yeah, and it makes it so thatthey have to eat more sugars to
be able to combat against it?
Yeah, so there's different waysof of qualifying it.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Dr Wood AZ wanted to know if drinking or not drinking
water while you're eating yourmeals or in between makes any
difference on your body'seffects of all of it what you go
first, bella, does it help youor do anything for you?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
usually for me.
Yes, water is a big big dealfor me.
I, if I don't drink water, Iget pretty messed up, especially
my blood sugars, like itusually always lowers them or
levels them out.
But yeah, during meals I try tolike make sure that I stay on
top of that, because that'sthat's a big deal too.
Like when you're a diabetic,everything so much more
Sensitive and so much more, like, important.

(56:46):
Like your, your body's not asstrong as it used to be, so
Water is very important.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, and also to go along with that, like water is
important to everybody.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yes, everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But if you're unhealthy and well, I've been
known to do this to drink toomuch soda, or drink too much
caffeine or Ice tea or coffee orwhatever it is, and then your
body is not Getting the amountof electrolytes or nutrients
that it needs from the water,yeah, so it throws everything
into a vicious circle, right?
And then it just it doesn'tfunction as good.
But there's also other thingsthat you can do right, like how

(57:22):
do I say this?
Like electrolytes affected alittle bit too, like the way you
sweat and you know when you'reworking out, and all these
different things.
So it sounds stupid, but youshould really like, if you don't
know, then ask your doctor,like doctors said, and have them
help you with the way that youfeel.
But if you do do that, makesure you're 100% Open and honest

(57:42):
with every single thing thatyou talk to them about.
Yeah, because you can'tdiagnose a person unless you
know all of the Stuff yeah, andif you're completely honest,
you're only bettering yourself.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You know so.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
But I think it's.
I just think it's important forpeople to know yeah, yeah, I
agree, but what are thequestions we?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
got.
We got a lot that was.
That was a lot of unpackingthat we just did, though.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
We really did.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Hmm, well, I do wanted to talk.
I did want to talk about.
Actually, I had a really goodquestion About.
We always talk about thesuccess that comes out of
working hard, but what about thehard times that we have to push

(58:34):
through to get to the top?
Sometimes we can losemotivation or struggle to get
back up After we fail.
What do you keep on?
What do you do to keep on going?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Well, this is actually something that's been
really near and dear to my heart.
Lately, too, I've been workingmy butt off doing All of these
different things that I want todo to help progress off-road in
general, and it's led to somereally cool business stuff
that's happening.
But the the main thing that Ican say For that question is

(59:04):
when I was racing, I alwayswanted to win.
That was the goal.
Progress is winning right.
Progress is winning right.
Progress is being on top of thepodium.
Progress is having your wholeteam standing with you.
I'm proud of you.
Progress is getting moresponsors.
Progress is building this stufflike.
So I always thought thatWinning was the number one thing
like you got to do, better, yougot to win.

(59:24):
You got to win, right.
Well, now I noticed that thatwasn't what I was addicted to.
I was actually addicted to theprogress part of it.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I make myself happy when I'm moving forward, and I
think it's a general Statementfor all of human beings, right
Like, just think about it fromwell, your standpoint.
You're young, but your nextstep might be going to college
yeah right, that's gonna beprogress.
Your next step might be meetingsomebody special and getting
married that's gonna be progress.
Your next step might be havingchildren that's gonna be

(59:56):
progress, right.
Your next step might bestarting your own podcast.
That's progress.
Like all of these differentthings, right like.
And Sometimes it gets twistedin the middle.
Sometimes you might be justcompletely addicted, wanting to
start a podcast.
You just focus on that, right,yeah, but as long as you're
making progress, I think itmakes you feel better, it makes
your heart feel better, it makesyour body feel better, it makes

(01:00:17):
people around you feel better.
So, for me, with all the thingsI've learned in my life, gosh
darn it like progress, alwaysprogress.
I think those are the biggestones that I can always tell
people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, I do agree with that.
I think it's not.
It's not necessarily that likewhat you do when you get to the
top, it's what you do like onthe way there, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, exactly, rex Road 925 was actually asking
what your favorite food is nowthat you've had diabetes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Favorite food is probably okay.
Sushi has always been myfavorite food.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Big sushi girl.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
But like, even like not being able to, I don't have
to take insulin for like all theraw fish and stuff, so that has
been like sigh relief.
But yeah, I'd say that, whatabout you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
People are always just gonna say tacos.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
I'm a big salad guy, though, too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Really, yeah, I love salads.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Have you ever had a taco salad?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yes, absolutely.
They'll pull a local all day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
They have good taco salads.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
BLT.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Oh, there you go, zach, chiming in with the BLT.
Okay, okay, so the BLT, you gotto add avocados and sprouts.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Dump some ranch on there.
Perfection.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I like BLTs, but I don't like tomatoes, so I do
everything but not the tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
What if you ditch the tomato?
Do you like cucumber?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Maybe throw a cucumber on there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I've never tried that , but I will.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So it'll be BLCAS, cucumber, avocado and sprout.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
You can make all kinds of different ones.
You know what pisses me off,though, to get on this subject,
I went to a restaurant the otherday and they only offered a
BLTA with turkey.
Right, like I just want a BLT,like I don't need the turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
I hate when restaurants charge you for the
turkey and they don't give it toyou.
Wait, what Like?
Why can't you just give me aBLT?
Yeah, I was so pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
That makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
So pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Ruins the whole experience.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
That's why I like your polo, because you just pay
for what you get.
Yeah, that's true, I like yourpolo too, but what do you get at
your polo then with type?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
one.
Well, that I do take a lot ofinsulin for, because your polo
is worth it, but I usually getthe bowl with, like all the rice
and the beans, the stuff Ishouldn't have, but I just go
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
All done, just eat your veggies first.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Give yourself a better chance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah, but at one point that I did want to like
kind of bring up was what aboutsome of the people that don't
have as big of a support systemin the racing program, like
they're kind of just the manager, the mechanic, the marketer for
everything?
Talk about the passion thatcomes from those people, because
there, yes, it is amazing tohave a big support system, but

(01:03:09):
when you know you got you andmaybe two or three other people,
like that has to be so muchmore demanding.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
My first suggestion to anybody that's in a position
like that and it doesn't matterwhether it's a race program or
whether it's just life ingeneral yeah, is, my family
always taught me to eat theelephant one bite at a time.
Do you know what that means?
It means an elephant's hugeright.
Yeah, if you go to try to eatthe whole thing, you're never
going to succeed at it, but ifyou eat the elephant one bite at

(01:03:38):
a time, you will eventually getto the end, right?
So basically, what it means isprioritize, focus your energy on
one specific thing.
So what I used to do because wehad a small team and in the
beginning it was just me, my dadwas working, my crew chief
wasn't my crew chief at thattime Like it was small.
Like there was the only theamount of effort we put in was

(01:04:00):
the rewards that we got backright.
So I would say, you know I hadto work eight to five, so that's
a 40 hour week right, and I ownmy own business at the time, so
it's more like a 60 hour week,but I would devote as much time
as I could to the racing program.
So I would be roughly 80 to 100hours deep on a normal week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
And so that leaves very little time to sleep.
But I was willing to sacrificethe sleep to make that progress
or goal happen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
And the only way I could do it was to focus on
little chunks.
So one week I would focus onrace prep, the next week I would
focus on, like let's just say,sponsorships or media, and then
the next week I would focus onsomething else and focus on
something else Eating theelephant one by the time.
Yeah, and it works.
It's very difficult, verydifficult, but if you want to

(01:04:51):
achieve your goals, you have toput in the effort.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Right.
You have to be passionate aboutit to be able to succeed in it.
For sure.
You'll find out quickly, likeif something's not for you.
When you do want to puteverything into something to do
it, then you realize, man, Imust, I should have more
motivation for this.
Maybe it's not my thing, ormaybe you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Like, what do you?
What do you tell people thatare just like fed up with it,
like, dude, this is too muchwork.
You tell them like to stickwith it.
Or do you like try to diagnoseit and see if they're actually
passionate about it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Pretty much diagnose it Like I think, if you're
genuinely not passionate aboutsomething, you find out real
quick, like that, you're notgoing to put the time in, you're
not going to, you know,sacrifice things and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So what if somebody's like in it and they're just
like ready to give up?
What do you tell them?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Well, if you really love something, you won't give
up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
So let's see here.
Wyatt said have there been daysthat you haven't felt so
motivated to shoot towards yourgoals?
Yeah Well, it's kind of whatwe're talking about right now.
And how have you gotten pastthat?
Keep pushing forward.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Thank you.
Do you want to go first on thatone?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I'd like you to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
There has been days where I felt like that.
I mean I get in a lot of funcslike that, mostly just because I
spread myself out pretty thin.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
So I you know you're a busy girl.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, pretty busy for a 16 year old, so there's just
a lot of stuff going on.
So I really have to balance mytime.
But I think on the days where Idon't feel as motivated to like
get up or do something that Iactually do care about and need
to get done, I really just kindof take the time and focus on
myself.
You know, maybe do somethingthat's more recharging, like go

(01:06:29):
and get a coffee, but just me.
Or you know, like go maybe talkto my mom a little bit, or go
to church, or you know, prayabout it, because that's really
important to me too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
But yeah, just getting all those recharging
your batteries anyway, you can,it's so important but and to
answer your question, bud.
Like I, almost every single dayI wake up.
It is very difficult, verydifficult, like I don't want to
wake up, like I don't becauseI'm so broken, right, so it's
very difficult.

(01:06:58):
So for me to get through thosetimes, which happen numerous
times a day, I do stretching andthe stretching usually what it
does for me is it makes my bodyfeel better and I have allowed
more blood flow, so that I canactually get like a little bit
of more energy, like if even ifit's one percent, it still helps

(01:07:19):
.
I do breathing exercises sothat I can like recharge my body
with oxygen, because that helpsyou feel better.
And then I try to do simplethings like ride my bicycle.
Yeah, because when you do thatyou get your endorphins going,
it gives you a little bit moremotivation to do things.
But during all that stuff Istill have it in my head the

(01:07:39):
baseline is progress, progress,progress, yeah.
So I know that if I feel bad inthe morning, if I don't do
anything, I will feel even worseat night.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
And I don't ever want to get worse.
I always want to get betterMove forward.
So that's a lot of the times Idrive myself crazy because I'm
going back and forth in my head.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
But it works for me Right, like that's what helps me
and drives me past it.
But, like you said, you do it acertain way.
I feel like why it might do ita little bit different to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Thank you, wyatt, for that really good conversation,
but yeah, and so whatever worksfor you dude, yeah, take some
motivation from other people,for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Right, yeah, I completely agree.
But who Well?
Do we want to end on a goodnote or do we want to keep
another conversation going?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Well, let's keep it going.
We got Zach here all the wayfrom Washington.
I think, we should put him towork, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
We do need to thank Zach for everything, because
he's sitting behind there really.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Dude, he's got like 69 screens going like all kinds
of different stuff, right, but.
Yeah, but he's doing a fantasticjob, and I will say this,
though, too, is like along thoselines of progress.
One of the things that makes mevery happy is seeing other
people progress, right.
So we talked about the racingportion of what we've seen

(01:09:06):
difficult.
Right, we've had our ownstruggles, yeah, but you know
what?
Everybody has their ownstruggles.
Everybody wants more sponsors,everybody wants to get to the
track, everybody wants off roadto be bigger.
Zach has been a very big helpin a driving force that I've
started, or we've started, tohelp showcase off road more, and
that's it's called Star Stream,and so we put, like these,

(01:09:27):
streaming cameras in people'scars, and I'm really proud of
where it's going, because thisis the whole progress thing that
we were talking about in 2022,which was a year ago, for the
Baja 1000.
There was no live in carcameras.
This year, we had roughly 40 or50 live in car cameras, and we

(01:09:48):
reached almost 750,000 people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Progress Boom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah, but these are all passionate people like you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Like Zach, like a bunch of other people around us
Brian Moore, everybody, like allof these people, they care
about sharing off road andbuilding it up, and that's
exactly what you want to do bydoing these interviews with Dirt
Life.
And I really like the way thatoff road has positioned itself,
because it can be such a massiveentity and get so many people

(01:10:17):
involved, if it's just a rightshowcase.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
It's.
It's definitely a community forsure.
Like being able to group upwith people that, like you guys,
share the same passion, andlike putting the drive and the
work into it.
It's definitely worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, and like how many people do you know that are
like your best friends for lifebecause of off road?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Oh, literally Everyone, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Yeah, like literally yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
But yeah, I do agree.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Rex wants to know what your guys's favorite part
of racing is, besides the goingfast part I don't know the
horsepower going fast is prettysweet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I think so too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
One of the things that I like most is the I think
it goes full circle, but is theteamwork and the amount of
payback that your team gets whenyou win or when you do well,
because that's like a victory initself, right?
When you see smiles on otherpeople's faces, boom, makes it
all worth it, right?

(01:11:22):
Yeah, but one of the thingsthat actually drives me the most
is like people always just askme if I get nervous.
I don't have that in me.
Like I don't get nervous, I getexcited.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Like really excited, like to the point where I forget
to breathe.
Excited like so happy, likejumping out of my seat.
Happy right, but I love thatfeeling.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Because, like I guess it's the adrenaline, you know
how, like when you get on aroller coaster and you're just
like oh yeah, like yeah that'show I get, like before race.
I just get so amped.
I'm so pumped up to do it.
That's one of the best feelingsthat a human being can feel,
right, it's like flying.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
So what like what's your fave, though, is it going
faster Like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I don't know if I can narrow it down to a favorite,
but I'd say one of like.
Definitely one of thehighlights of racing is, I feel
like we've got this progressthing going on.
But, definitely progress, beingin the middle of a race and

(01:12:27):
just all the anticipation like,oh my gosh, I don't know what's
going to happen in this nextcorner.
But I know I just did the bestcorner of my life back there.
You know that he's now going todo it better, exactly Like
sitting there in the car, justturn after turn, straight after
straight, going through theactual racing part, the whole

(01:12:47):
race, the start, the beginning,the middle.
Yeah, I love it all, like it'sall just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
So that brings it up another.
I have another answer to thisquestion.
When I raced dirt bikes one ofmy favorite moments of all time
I was on 80s, so I was just akid at the time and I remember I
fell down in the first cornerand it was like did you ever
seen that?
What's the Will Ferrell moviewhere he's like, oh, that's a

(01:13:14):
GoPro?
What's the Will Ferrell moviewhere he's having the spelling
bee and they're like whathappened?
He's like I don't know, I justblacked out and then he nailed
the whole thing.
He like aced everything andeverything was like the most
perfect.
He just nailed it.
He was totally in the zone thewhole time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
I feel like I've watched this movie, but I can't.
I forgot what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
But he was competing against little kids so it was
like super funny, right.
But I was just like I fell downin the first turn and I was
like shoot, my race is toast.
Like there's no way I'm goingto be able to catch up.
By the time we crossed thefinish line I was three feet
from winning the race, like Iwas so in the zone.

(01:13:59):
It was like I've only, I think,maybe two or three times I've
ever felt that same like levelof focus.
But that level of focus is whatI feel.
Like Michael Jordan, tigerWoods, like these guys have a
way to just hone that skill setto that level of intensity.

(01:14:20):
And I only got that a couple oftimes in my life.
But, holy cow, I would love tohave that it's like.
Or the movie that where he likeswallows the red pill or the
blue pill and he's like laserfocused.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
I know that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Like that.
Yes, I know what you mean.
I wish I could get that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, I think kind of like an analogy, but like when
you go down like a tunnel andlike you know, like how you
don't have sometimes you don'thave like peripheral vision or
something Like narrowing down tosomething so specific, like
when you're racing, sometimeslike I could be thinking about
something else.
But there's some races where,like literally all I have in my

(01:14:56):
sight or in my head is just howI'm going to make it to this
next corner, how I'm going tomake it to this, like constantly
, just you know what I mean.
Nothing else is distracting you, nothing else is getting in the
way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Yeah, that's a special power that you have,
then.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
It's.
It happens rarely, but likemostly because I just overthink
a lot, so I like constantlythinking about a bunch of
different things, but whenyou're really in the zone you
really like in it to win it.
Like everything just slows intolike a tunnel.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Not going to lie.
When I started racing side byside, I remember being at Wild
Horse Pass, going up the firststraight way thinking about a
turkey sandwich.
Like it wasn't good yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
It was not good.
Sometimes it's like that andsometimes it's like feel like
you're on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yeah, so yeah, and so that's one of the things that I
wish I could have gotten.
More is like that level offocus, like what you have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Well, you still got opportunities to do that, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
We're working on it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I wonder how people like that are like, let's just
say, rob McCacken, or like BryceMenzies, because I feel like
they've got just a little bitmore of that than all of us.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
They're on a whole other level, but one person that
I do want to get on soon isKayden McCacken.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Ooh, that'd be cool.
So Kayden and Brock Hager aresupposed to do a show, I think
actually maybe next week.
So if you want to do that withus, you can yeah?
I would love to Talking aboutBaja.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
So Desert Squadron was saying tunnel vision.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Tunnel vision.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Just like what you were saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, I guess that's one wordto put it, but that's exactly
what I mean Really, just likeLaser focused.
Also, being passionate aboutsomething like gives you the
energy to be able to dosomething like that Not a lot of
people can say.
Or a lot of people say man,I've never really focused that
hard on something.

(01:16:46):
But if you really care aboutsomething, oh, you will.
Yeah, you will.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
You find superpowers in yourself that you don't
realize you have until youreally care about something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
That's exactly what I was talking about, about the
normalcy.
What you think is normal doesnot have to be normal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You can go way above that level.
Yeah, oh yeah, there's limits.
I don't think there's a limitto anything, but even for
everybody.
Everybody just has a differentcapacity of something.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Well, how about this?
What we should tell people isif you think there's limits on
you, you can always slide intothe DMs for the Dirt Life or
Bella's DMs and ask what shethinks that your limit is.
I guarantee she's going to saythere isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Yeah, there probably isn't one.
It'd be cool to hear otherpeople's stories though too.
Yes, I do agree.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Like how they've bypassed things that they
thought were limiting them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Yeah, I feel like there's definitely some
questions that we should movewith for the future, for more
Bella's Corner episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Like ask Caden McCackrim what he thought was a
limit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Because, yeah, thinking this whole topic that
we got going on with things,this more intimate conversations
and stuff like that, we'venever really, I've never really
thought about to ask otherracers these I wanted to start
off with you, obviously, but Ithink it'd be really cool to
kind of get to know what istheir superpower, that they

(01:18:04):
found out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
I think it'd be so fantastic if you asked people
let's just say Bryce Mendes, hejust won the Baja 1,000 overall
right.
Yes, you could ask him thosesame questions and see you learn
from the best right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Right, so you have advice and you can take it with
you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Dude totally.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
I can't wait for some of this stuff dude.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
You got plans.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Wait, what were they saying?
Progress.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Progress.
I think that needs to be thenew title of this show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Bella's Corner, AKA Progress.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
AKA Progress.
Well, is there anything thatyou want to bring up?

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
No, I just like having these conversations
because it makes me feel like,well, I even know you better now
, right, but like when youtalked about the support
mechanism stuff, one thing thatI know about you is that you're
very open, you're honest and youare able to take constructive

(01:18:59):
criticism, whether it's well,even negative criticism.
You're able to accept it right,like you're open and willing to
accept it.
Is that easy for you?
Because there's a lot of stuffthat people could say that could
feel totally mean.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
But if you have an open perspective like you do,
does it make it easier for youto move past certain things or
learn from that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Yes, I think it's definitely an advantage for me
personally, because being ableto take something in and know
that they don't mean itunnecessarily to bring me down
or degrade me.
They mean it to see me succeedand it just depends on how you

(01:19:42):
take it.
Somebody could say something totwo different people and one
could be super sensitive aboutit and the other person could
strive with it.
It really just depends on howyou take something in and how
you process it.
That's all in your control.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
So when you let's just say I told you right now,
ha ha, you can't eat a piece ofcheesecake, how do you take that
?
Give me an example.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I probably laugh a little bit, I probably.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
But to me I would laugh too and I would just be
like I'll screw that, but ithurts a little bit.
Dude, I want a piece ofcheesecake.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I want a piece of cheesecake.
But yeah, I totally get that.
But that's where I say progress.
Before I used to be wanting tocry, you know, like ha, that's
funny, and then probably go inthe corner and tell my mom my
feelings were hurt.
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
But then I also think about it too.
I have this weird thing andyou're learning it.
I feel like you're doing a verygood job at it In my head where
I go, you know what I do want apiece of cheesecake, but it's
better that I don't have it.
I'm actually winning more thanthem eating the cheesecake.
It's kind of funny how it turnsback around.
But it might kind of sound likea trick in my head to me, but

(01:20:55):
there is some sort of truthbehind it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
It is.
It's going to benefit you inthe long run.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
so it's weird, right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Yeah, it is weird.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
So maybe sometimes the answer is you've got to
trick yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Yeah, I do agree with that, though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
But I think that it's good that the way you're
dealing with all that stuff,especially with all the I don't
know if you don't want to callit like Zach and I were actually
talking about it the other dayLike it's difficult for younger
people to grow up these daysbecause there's so many things
being said, you know, likethere's so much noise from the
outside, like social media andall this shit that people are
saying like, oh, it's a place,like it's difficult.

(01:21:30):
Yeah, it's really difficult andyou're learning very quickly
that some of the noises youcould be a sponge and accept it
and it makes you a better person, and the other noise you just
throw it in the trash.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Right.
It's definitely something thatyou learn as you grow up,
especially in the racingindustry.
Like that, you know, like todecide is this worth like taking
advice from?
Is this source like good for me?
Is this good energy?
Is this, you know, that'sreally important, like what you
let in your life and what youdon't let in your life.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
If you're like listening to this show right now
, either on iTunes or about as apodcast, or if you're watching
it.
What do you tell people to do?
Like to decipher whether it'sgoing to be good for them or bad
, or, I guess, how do they dealwith it?

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I would say I mean, I totally believe in like
instincts.
I think that you know, like youknow what's good for you and
you know what's not good for you, especially as you get older
and you learn, and you learnfrom your parents.
But I think a lot is which islike experiencing like you.
That's the whole point ofliving.

(01:22:37):
Like that's when you find outoh, this isn't good for me, this
is good for me you know, Ishould hang around these people.
I shouldn't be around thesepeople, Like that's just a part
of growing up.
The older you get, the wiseryou are.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah, you know what You're right.
It does like and I don't know.
I feel like you should listento everything, whether it's good
, bad or indifferent, but takethe things that you think are
going to make you progress.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Yeah, yeah, 100% agree.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
That's wild man.
Yeah, I don't know how muchwhether people can take this and
make it better for themselves,but I think you did a really
good job.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Yeah, I think some people like that also comes with
it, like taking in stuff, likesome people can be, like we said
at the beginning, moreopen-minded to taking in, like
constructive criticism, and like, oh yes, I can grow, I can
progress, I can be a betterperson.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Actually, that's a good question to ask then too,
Like what if you're a stubbornkid, or a stubborn adult for
that matter?
You just don't want to listento people.
Do you think it's going to helpor hurt you?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
No, it's going to hurt you 100%.
I think you have.
We're all put here to learnfrom each other and to grow with
each other and buildrelationships and stuff.
So ignoring you knowconstructive criticism will harm
you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Yeah, totally.
Desert Squadron just said thatlike take it all in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
It's how you process it and what you do with it that
actually determines your outcomeand happiness.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Yeah, I agree 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Yeah, it really does, man, this is a pretty intense
episode.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
I like it.
Yeah, me too.
Well, one thing I did want tosay was the greatness of
positivity and how powerful itcan be, especially in racing and
just in life in general, butbeing able to find the good in a
difficult situation and turningmistakes into learning
experiences 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
I had a very difficult time.
I don't know if you want me toexpand on that, if you want to
end, but I had a very difficulttime with finding the good in
that last accident that happenedto me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
It was very difficult , right, because when I got out
of the hospital, I was stillblind.
I couldn't see, I couldn't hearanything Like all those little
things that I was telling youabout.
Like they had to put my eyesback in the socket.
It's like my right eye stilldoesn't work, right, and I don't
know if you've seen me, but Iturned my head really far.
When I look at you, it'sbecause I can't see out of my
right eye.

(01:25:04):
They had to cut my ears off.
My ears are built out oftitanium now.
Because I couldn't hear.
They had to drill through myhead and open up my ear holes
again, like when I still hearevery day.
I can hear, but I can hearabout 40% of what you have.
It's like I'm in a fishbowl allthe time.
So, like all of these differentthings that you're saying, like
you have to understand andrespect the life that you're

(01:25:25):
given and how much it means,because there's no way that you
can make progress unless yourealize how good you already
have it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
I completely agree.
Like you know, you have room togrow, but you have to
appreciate what you've gonethrough to be able to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Yeah 100%.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Just being thankful that you know you've gone
through some of this stuff andvery life-threatening stuff and
still like oh, I'm still here.
You know, there's a reason whyI'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
So Exactly, and it's not just me Like.
Everybody goes through theirown stuff, yeah, but it always
helps to understand what otherpeople go through too.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I get it for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
So what's next on your schedule?

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Next on my schedule?
Well, there's no racing for metill January.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Dude, that's like coming right up.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
That's a long time, but next up is probably more
Bella's Corner action.
I'm really excited for thefuture for this.
I think bringing more peoplethat we know and don't know is
really going to at least try togrow the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
So I have a question for Zach, then.
Since you're talking aboutBella's Corner, he's going to
have to answer it.
So he's going to have to pressthat little red button on the
audio thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
OK.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
So, zach, after being here producing a Bella's Corner
episode, what's yourconstructive criticism for
Bella's Corner?

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Well, hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Other than George needs to get some more computers
, george, you have way too manycomputers.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
You've got to slim it down a little bit.
But the cool thing is is thatin this type of arena it
succeeds out of passion, andwhen you are able to have a
connection with your audienceand those that you're
interviewing with a passionatemindset, you know that's where

(01:27:17):
you succeed.
So I think that you're right ontrack with wanting to pursue
that and you've taken quite theprepared approach to the way you
think about your questions andthings like that you're going to
do fine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Thank you, thank you so much.
That means a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
See, he said it way better than I could.
I just think you're kicking ass, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Well, I appreciate both of them.
Yeah, I mean, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Yeah, but like he said, passion and progress.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
It's the name of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
Yeah, I think that's what keeps people going is
passion.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Totally Like your brother is really passionate
about doing 12 o'clock wheelieson his sarong.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
Cruz is passionate about Fortnite.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Is he probably playing Fortnite right now?
I don't need to listen toBella's dumb podcast.
I'm going to play Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
What goes through his brain.
You really yes, just quoted it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
I love it.
That's so awesome.
All right, let's thankeverybody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Yeah Well, we'd love to thank you guys first, because
you are why we do this.
So thank you to everybody thatchimed in.
You know, with all the commentsand stuff like that, everyone
that viewed it took the time tolisten to what we had to say.
It means a lot, and we couldn'tdo it without you.
So the best part about it is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
You know what we should do?
Let's do this because I keepforgetting.
We have a Maxis hat that issimilar to this.
You guys can't see it unlessyou're watching on YouTube or
Instagram, but if you arewatching on here, let's put it
right here.
If you are listening on, let'ssee iTunes or any of the social

(01:28:52):
excuse me, audio platforms.
We have a Maxis hat like that,but it's signed by Jeremy
McGrath.
We should give it away prettysoon.
So maybe you want to do that ona Bella's corner.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah, I'm down.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Okay, so how about this?
For everybody that sends in amessage to Bella, you're
automatically entered to win,and we're going to do a social
media promo too.
We'll do like a story orsomething, so that we can get a
little bit of information toMaxis and to us.
But yeah, I think we shouldstart it off like that, and

(01:29:25):
we'll try to get some morepeople to watch Bella's corner
next time too.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Yeah, we'll make sure you guys stay tuned with stuff
like that.
We'll post about it and keepyou guys updated too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
So tune in to all the social media networks Facebook,
YouTube, all the iTunes andGoogle play and all of the audio
platforms.
Hit us up at the Dirt Life showon any of the social channels,
especially Instagram, becausethat's where we answer most of
the stuff and, like Bella saidat the beginning of the show,
please share the show with allyour homies.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Yes, all the homies need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Oh, fun fact or stat that I just noticed this week
we're almost to 9,000 peopleorganically Never, ever, paid
one penny and we got almost9,000 people on the Dirt Life.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Look at that, you guys are real homies.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Yeah, exactly.
I think we're like 10 away orsomething.
But like dude, we should beasked how about this?
Ain't nobody getting this hatuntil we reach 9,000.
So you better hurry up and golike be a friend of the Dirt
Life show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Progress Dude yes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
All right, let's thank the sponsors.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Yeah, I'd love to thank MoTool KMC Wheels for
everything you guys do for usand Evolution Power Sports
wrapping them right now.
But you guys are the power thatwe need, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Yeah, I love that sweater too.
Thanks to the guys over atMaxis Tires, kmc Wheels, shock
Therapy, jail Audio, enzo andRacing Products as well.
All right, bella, sign us out,girl.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Well, this was episode four of Bella's Corner.
We'll be back for more inJanuary, but thank you to George
for sharing a little bit aboutyour life and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Thank you to Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Thank you to Zach, of course for producing this
episode we are at Vision SportCannabis, so thank you so much
for letting us rent out thislittle place for the night.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Yeah, thanks, guys, we really appreciate it.
So catch us on the next DirtLife show, probably going to be
a Baja 1000 Recap show.
We love you, guys, good night.
Thanks for listening to theDirt Life show.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
See you next week.

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