Shifting Gears to Conquer Challenges in the World of Racing - Bella's Corner - Episode 7 - The Dirt Life

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show.
I'm your host, Bella Brashad.
This is my co-host, GeorgeHamill.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hi guys.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And we are filming episode 7 of Bella's Corner.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Dude.
So 7 is the magic number.
I don't know if you rememberwhat I told you.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
No, it is.
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So in podcast world they say if you can meet seven
episodes, then you're not.
It gets way easier.
Do you feel like?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
it is.
Yeah, I mean we'll see how thisepisode goes, but I'm pretty
hyped.
I can't believe we've gotten toseven.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
It hasn't even felt like seven but well, how much
work do you think it's been toget to seven?
Do you think it's been easieror has it been a learning curve?
It's been a learning curve,that's for sure dude, you've
been doing good what's up?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
jeff, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
uh, all right, let's go through the motions, girl so
first I want to thank all of oursponsors who get us here um.
I'd like to thank motulevolution power sports for for
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Oh, he's repping.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
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Thank you to the guys over atJL Audio and Zolinger Racing

(01:32):
Products and all of you forwatching.
We appreciate it because youguys are our lifeblood, so thank
you very much for watching.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I'm super excited to dive into it Hi Jess.
Oh hi, mom, we have some prettycool people coming on tonight.
I want to start off with hisintro, because he just did
something super cool.
So first up is Corbin Leverton.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Let's do it.
Let's introduce everybody, andthen we'll do the intros when
they come on.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, yeah, so we got Corbin Leverton coming on,
Brooke Jensen, Brock Dickersonand Kaden McCackren.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh, all very, very good guests.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So it'll be interesting, because I wanted to
catch up with a few of themactually, and I love Brooke
first of all.
Brock I haven't talked to in awhile but like the last time I
actually was on track with himhe was just a little guy yeah.
Just a super little guy.
Has was on track with him.
Okay, he was just a little guy.
Yeah, just a super little guy.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Has he been on the show?
I don't think he has actually.
Okay, so good job.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Bring him on the show for the first time, sick.
And then Corbin's got somereally cool stuff happening and
obviously you know Caden andHaley have been doing fantastic
in their races.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, and we had Haley on not too long.
All right, are you ready?
Let's do it.
Okay.
So Corbin Leverton is fromNuevo California, who just
recently joined the Red BullMotorsports family and took the
win at this year's Red BullScramble, so deal yeah, joining,
what a top dog oh yeah, One ofthe top dogs?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Oh yeah, no he well earned it.
I'm super happy for him.
There he is.
What's up, Corbin?
What's?

Speaker 4 (03:08):
happening guys.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I think I'm on.
You're on.
I expected to see you at thehouse, but I forgot.
You just moved into your newhouse.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Hey, speaking of that , how's the new house coming?
Dude, you've been making somesuper big gains in life, right,
yeah, it's, it's coming.
Yeah, anyone that has owns ahouse, especially renovated a
house, knows it's a lot of work,a lot of money last time, but a
lot of fun.
It's cool, it's rewarding.
Now it's looking.
It's looking pretty good now,so it's fun yeah, that's super
cool.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, should we get into it do it you, we get into
it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Do it, you can get into it.
I'm going to ask questionsabout his house, though.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
No, it's pretty cool, honestly.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
I didn't know I was doing the cribs, but I mean I
could give you guys the fullcribs walking on.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, that would be pretty cool, you know what we
should do, because Dirt Lifewants to like get more into that
, like checking out off-roadcribs.
We should maybe go over thereand say hi to him.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh, we definitely should.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, but honestly, man.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Say that again.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Corbin, you're welcome anytime, dude, it's
pretty cool to see, though, likeevery time, I think about this.
We always talk about off-road,we always talk about progressing
and racing, but progressing inlife is just as important, like
the amount of accomplishmentthat he probably feels.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
You know, making the next step in life has got to be
great for sure yeah, no, I I notin a bad way, but there's for
sure more life than racing.
You know what I mean,especially growing up for me,
like as a kid, racing my wholelife.
I mean like I was homeschooledto race and stuff and like I had
no life other than racing.
You know, have friends and dothings, but like my life was

(04:47):
racing and as I get older andyou know, gotten married and had
a house and stuff like that, umdefinitely realized there there
is more to life, but it doesn't.
It doesn't take away any, anyfrom your passion of racing at
all by any means, you know.
So, yeah, it's cool, it's fun,don't, don't?
Uh, kids, don't let the adultsscare you away too much plus

(05:10):
racing time.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I'm gonna turn our engines and I guarantee you
consider him a construction mantoo, yeah, yeah the toolbox oh
big you can kind of see it rightthere in the corner.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
We got a wall right there that we missed.
But yeah, no, seriously, hugeconstruction guy lately.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yep, I get it.
Speaking of accomplishments,you just won the Red Bull
Scramble this last month.
I'm pretty sure, yep.
So give us a quick race recapon how that went.
If it was a smooth race, ifthere was a sure, yeah, so give
us a quick race recap on howthat went.
Um, if it was a smooth race.
If there's a littlecomplications, give us a little
rundown yeah, I know it was fun.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
That's always like one of my, my favorite races to
get to do.
I grew up going to the dunes,so, um, it's fun, kind of feel
right at home.
Uh, that was good, it was cool,especially after winning it
last year too, to kind of backthat up, um, you know, obviously
signing with Red Bull and stufflike that and a little bit of
added pressure there to do well,but so that was cool.
And then, yeah, no, honestly, Ithought I was getting my butt

(06:12):
kicked for sure.
Um, chase Carr actually justtotally smoked me and just had
nothing for him.
I went back to to the trailer.
I'm like what the heck?
Like maybe it's time to retire,I don't know.
But I was able to pull ittogether and we actually had a
super good battle.
It was a lot of fun, the mostfun I've had racing in a while.
Actually kind of battled downto the end and luckily I was off

(06:35):
.
Not so for chase, I guess.
But it's all right, he'll havehis day.
I know um shout out his youngkid and he's he's killed it.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, like whenever you think of those battles, dude
, like I can remember so manyraces that like well, okay, I'll
put it this way, I've forgottenso many races that I won,
usually on dirt bikes.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
But there's some that .

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I got second or third .
That I will never forgetbecause it's just those battles
right and like this one.
You came out out on top, but Iguarantee it's a memorable one
for Chase and both of you guysare going to remember it for a
long time because it was soheated for sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
And you're totally right, dude.
I mean, yeah, any of us racingare super competitive and we
hate to lose myself more thananyone I know.
But yeah, no even to that.
I had a really good battle withHunter Miller actually out in
New Jersey last year.
That's probably second to thisone with Chase and Glamis as far
as what I can remember recentlyin the last couple of years.

(07:33):
As far as a good battle, I gotsecond.
He beat me, but still I comeoff the track and we both
destroyed each other's cars,bashing each other all the way
to the finish.
Still, we're stoked.
Obviously, hunter is probably alittle bit more stoked than me,
but, uh, a lot of fun.
I mean, that's why we raceright.
So, um, I love doing that, Ilove making doors and stuff like
that.
So, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's why, that's why the scramble series is so
much fun to me yeah, it isbecause it's all battles when I
say hi to the tire balls guys,and to the trophy girl too.
What's up, guys?
Uh?
Those battles, though, like doyou take anything away?
And you're like, all right,that was one of the best battles
I've had, but I could have donethis, this and this way better
and just like I don't know, justto increase your speed, right,

(08:15):
or your?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
next, sure, yeah, no, you win or lose the battle and
I feel like you know in the time, you know your adrenaline's
pumping and stuff like that, soyou're not really thinking about
that stuff.
But for me, I always likeanalyze myself and in kind of my
performance after a race and Ifeel like there's more to gain,
uh, in that you know in yourhead after, because you can kind

(08:36):
of look back and be like, well,okay, like that's, this guy got
me in this line, like I shouldhave known this or I should mean
this, or like, okay, I got himhere, got him here, like this is
where I know and it it helpsfor sure.
Even one thing I try to payattention to a lot is there's a
lot of those guys have beenracing together for years.
You know what I mean.
So you start to learn the guyyou're racing with and that's
really cool.
And that was something that Ireally enjoyed with chase is I

(08:56):
haven't really got to battlechase personally, like I battled
with Hunter a bit kind of backin the works days, um, so I kind
of knew what I was in for, um,and and, and it was fun battling
with with kind of new.
For me we'd never really goneat it like that.
So you learn and and I can'tlie Like I learned from the kid,
I mean even, just like I said,I got my butt kicked in that in

(09:17):
that heat race and uh, you knowwhat I kind of went back analyze
some of the lines that that hewas getting me on and kind of
pick the ones that that he wasfaster, started using those,
knew the ones that I was faster,use those too.
And it's fun.
Yeah, I love that side.
I love the mental side ofracing.
I think it people take it forgranted.
You know the mental side of itand, uh, at the end of the day,

(09:39):
hey, man, like all of us thatare in cars, like we have good
cars, you know, we all know howto drive them.
Obviously, I think it comesdown to to who wants to, who
wants to win the most, or, juststraight up, who doesn't, and I
feel like that's, uh, usuallyhow I look at.
I really just don't likegetting beat, you know.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
So I feel like it's like nowadays, though it's a
little different.
It's like more um, I don't knowwho makes less mistakes,
because it's so close, right.
But I also feel like a reallygood point that you brought up
is like sometimes it's moreabout the person than the car,
right, like in auto racing, thecars are always the main thing,
right.
But, like, what you justbrought up is really interesting

(10:17):
to me too is because, like whenwe were racing professional
short course, like I knew whatlines Dustin Nelson would take.
I knew what lines Corey Wellerwas going to take.
I knew where they would cut up,cut down.
I knew to the point where theywould get, because Dustin would
only give like a quarter of aninch on the track, corey would
give like three or four incheson the track.

(10:37):
And you get like to a pointwhere you know your competition
so well that you can go and havethat much better of a race Like
it gets wild when you can goand have that much better of a
race like it gets wild when youcan like what you were talking
about with hunter and chase.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, no for sure, you're spot on too.
I mean, like, for me, I alwaystry to like to learn from from
the guys around me.
Um, I, I honestly don't likeshowing up to the track and
being the fastest guy inpractice or in qualifying and
stuff like that, because I'm notgetting any faster.
So, um, I like showing up andkind of learning from from who's
there.

(11:08):
Um, even if you are faster,there's always something you can
learn from someone else, evenif they were slower.
So that's something I reallylike to analyze and and I'm an
overthinker with it, but it'sjust how I um, but, yeah, I mean
even to the point of you know,like we were in different, you
know car brands, you know sodifferent cars, even if you're
in the same exact model car,like people, cars work

(11:29):
differently, they're set updifferently and and I even try
to learn from that, you knowwhat I mean In the race too, as
far as just like, oh yeah, Ican't do this liner.
They got they.
They're getting a little bitbetter here, but I'm going to
get it here.
But also for like, okay, whenit gets done, man, his car

(11:51):
worked really good right thereand I make my car do that too.
Can I get artists set up rightafter it?
Because there really is, likeyou're saying, so much of racing
really are, um, but that'swhere I like off-road racing,
because it's a lot less than youknow asphalt stuff.
Yeah, that's why I really likethe scramble series as well,
because it's's not just, youknow, a wide open horsepower
game and stuff like that.
So I have a lot of fun doingthose.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
DVXN asked a question .
Did you see that there I?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
did.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Do you want to ask Corbin that question, because I
feel like that's a good one forCorbin.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
He said hey, man, I have a question on how to get
into riding when my parentsdon't have the money to support
me.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Man, I mean need to support me.
Man.
I mean it's tough because I'llbe honest, like it's it's if
anyone's selling on you.
You know, off off road racingor just riding in general is
cheap.
They're lying, luckily for us,and what we do is side by sides.
Um, they're pretty costeffective.
They're pretty cheap to atleast get out there and have
some fun.
Uh, you can get right off theshowroom floor.
Is it a financial investment?
I don't know.

(12:47):
But you'll have a lot of fun, Ican promise you that.
And even with that man you canliterally go finance a race car.
Like I said, is it the bestinvestment?
I don't know.
But hey, it's worked out prettydecent for me and I'm thankful
and it's cool, it's so cool tome.
If you look back at that offracing, you know 10 years ago

(13:08):
where you had to spend.
You know tens, hundreds ofthousands.
Just start.
You got to go wait in line fora year to get a, to get a buggy
bill or something.
You can really go down to theshow or finance thing, a few
parts on it, line up batteriesand get your feet wet and feel
for it, and there's a lot ofsponsor help out there?
Um, there really is.
If you're marketing yourselfright, even if you are a

(13:30):
beginner, they're really willingto help.
And yeah, I mean, if there's awill, there's a way right.
So there's no quick answer,there's no real shortcut for it,
it's kind of just make ithappen.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Our work is one of the main things with all that
stuff and and like the way thatI started was, you know, like
even a little bit under whatCorbin was talking about Like I
had to work my butt off.
I got a job to make extra moneyto buy a used side-by-side, and
I found a used side-by-side anda couple of guys that would
help me and like some goodmentors and stuff, and then I
just raced when I could like andjust saved up money.

(14:02):
So the first thing is hard work, second one is save your money
and the third thing is go outand achieve your dream.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean it's, it's real, that's, that's the
truth.
I mean, I mean I don't know howmany people really know it, but
I mean I dabbled withside-by-side racing a little bit
just just because I was luckyenough that my uncle was racing
and grandpa kind of helped meout and stuff like that and got
to pop in a little bit.
At the point I really startedto take it seriously.
Um, I was 17, working like notbeing homeschooled, so I could,

(14:31):
so I could work more and financemyself a car from the
dealership that I built that'smy race car luckily was able to
do well and get help frommanufacturers kind of relatively
quickly, quickly, I would say.
I was lucky and blessed to dothat and not everybody can
expect that, I guess.
But, um, but yeah, I don't comefrom, I don't come from much

(14:53):
money, I obviously I'm not.
I'm not poor and and homelessor anything, but uh, yeah, if
there's a will there's a way,right, so that's kind of how I
look that kind of dives into mynext question.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
um, we've got all those life checks where it's
like, okay, I'm getting older,I've got to figure out you know
how racing pans out for me.
But what point in your careerdid you have that reality check
and chose to like really bumbledown and take it serious?
Because I know I've had someand I'm sure George has had some
.
But I want to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah from you, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'll clarify right offthe bat um, racing cars for a
living is probably not the rightcareer choice.
I will say but, um, if you'relike me and you just really
don't feel like you have anoption, that's what you're doing
.
Uh, it is possible.
And and for me, like my path,um, really, I guess, man, when I

(15:40):
was right around graduatingtime 17, 18 I actually was a
fire explorer.
I was going, um, I actuallyfinished emt school, was about
time to, you know, get on agonna get a pair like go to
paramedic school and then andfire, fire academy and all that
stuff.
That was my plan.
Since I was like 15, I'd plannedto be a firefighter and, uh,

(16:00):
right around that time is when Istarted started really, um, the
racing kind of started pickingup.
I started getting sponsors,started to actually get to the
point I'm like, okay, I'm makinga little bit of money doing
this, um, and, yeah, it was somuch, I was racing so much and
stuff like that, that I'm like,hey, like I, I have this
opportunity right now.
It may or may not last and Iprobably will never get it again

(16:23):
and, to be frank, I can go backand try to be a firefighter,
kind of, whenever you know whatI mean.
So, um, yeah, I chose toliterally just hit it full force
.
Be at everything, do everythingthat sponsors ask race super
quick.
Yeah, you know that's just howit is.
You know, and and I've beenbeen around racing, kind of
growing up and stuff like that,and I understand it.

(16:44):
But yeah, that was kind of mymoment in in my career at least.
Everybody has their others.
Um, some, some don't have themuntil they're you know, like
we're racing cars, you know.
I mean you can start racingwhen you're 40 or you can start
racing when you're when you're10 if you have parents that are
willing to help you do it.
Um, but yeah, that was that wasmy deal, um, kind of when it
was time to grow up and pick acareer and stuff like that, I'm

(17:05):
like, well, I'm going to racefor a little bit at least.
And here I am, so it worked outand yeah, I can't imagine my
life any other way.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, yeah, it worked out for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Is that fire still lit inside you?
Because it seems like it's evengrowing.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, I mean, dude, I'll be honest with you.
There is plenty of times forprobably anyone that races, at
whatever level, um, that you'relike, yeah, forget this.
Um, pretty much, um, there'sdefinitely times that, yeah, you
love it, it's all good, andthen you hate it.
And why do I do this type thing?
That's just straight up.
That's, that's my, in my headat least.

(17:41):
So if no one else is willing tosay it, I will.
Um, but overall, those negativethoughts don't really last very
long when it comes to racing.
Anyone that's around racingknows it's kind of it's, it's a
bit of an addiction, as clicheas it as it sounds.
Um, it really is, and, and forme it's kind of just always been
like I don't know, it's justwhat I do.
I feel like I'm not going tosay I was born and put on this

(18:04):
earth to do that, but and that'swhat, like, I have a drive to
do, so why not do that?
Um, and yeah, I've had my, myups and downs in my career and I
would say right now I'mprobably having more fun, more,
have more drive to succeed, donew things and and, just
straight up, win races more thanmore than ever actually.

(18:24):
So it's cool, I'm in a goodheadspace right now.
I like it.
Yeah, life's good.
We'll see what happens fromhere, I guess yeah, I'm really
happy for you.
That's super cool what was notup and down, just just like with
anything, in any path youchoose, in anything you're doing
, it's, it's a lot if you don'tdown struggles.
So take that for what it is, Iguess yeah, for sure, that's

(18:45):
really cool yeah, no, do youhave any more questions?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I do have one last question that I've been dying to
ask forever.
I'm scared when is the levertonboys, pit by grace, gonna come
back?

Speaker 4 (19:01):
uh, bad connection, sorry guys.
You're probably the thousandthperson to ask me that question,
bella, since the date.
That's all anyone ever asked meabout.
I'm pretty sure that's likewhat will be on mine and Lincoln

(19:21):
, my brother's gravestones orsomething, because that's just
what I'm known for now.
I don't know.
For one, there's a house builton that lot now, so we're going
to have to have a differentvenue.
For two, that was pretty rowdy.
I don't know if we'll keep arole like that again, but you

(19:41):
never know.
Me and Lincoln have talkedabout that.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
There may be like a it will do a five-year in your
reunion or something I'm tellingyou like, just like it got so
rowdy dude, it was cowboy styledude.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
You should just wait till 2069 just like postpone it
I don't know what I'm thinking.
You know, like if you're there,you know if you weren't there,
you'll just never know.
And it's one of those thingsthat like right, like a story
from back in the day when you'rea kid, like it just grows and
builds and it's like you, itmakes it like in your head it
was way cooler than it even was.
And it like grows to that pointlike if we do it again, it's
just gonna lose its coolness.

(20:17):

Speaker 1 (20:18):
So it's like that thing.
You don't want to make a dude.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
You should have been there no actual story or
instagram posts or anythingwhatever amount to how cool it
was yeah, ever it was.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
It was pretty crazy, for those that weren't there
have no idea we're talking about.
So at my parents property therewas a.
There's a one acre spot.
I have to shout out to cody aswell too bradbury milk.
He lives on it too and it wasnext door to him, so he hated us
for it.
Um, but he can't lie, he hadfun.
Um, there's a one.
We got a one acre spot of landright there.
Um, I live in out in the middleof nowhere Nueva, if anyone

(20:53):
knows where that is.
But, um, this was in the middleof COVID, so it wasn't me, but,
uh, middle of COVID.
No one had nothing to do.
So we threw up a pit bike raceand there was.
We bought 750 wristbands and mymom said we were absolutely
nuts.
No way are 750 people coming inthere, whether they show up or
not, we're not letting in.
Uh, by about 10 am, all thewristbands were gone and we had

(21:15):
just opened the gates and we'rejust like yeah, come in.
So there was somewhere around athousand on a one acre lot.
Um, so much so that the city ofNuevo, uh, rampage, got shut
down because all of our friendswere bombarding them.
So much so it was pretty,pretty cool.
Thank god we didn't get shutdown.
The cops were so cool about itand loving it and, yeah, it was

(21:36):
a good time.
It was one of those things thatI don't know.
I don't know if it can ever berecreated and be as fun.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Thank you for the Lieberton and Bradbury family
for putting Nuevo on the mapyeah.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
No one knew about Nuevo until that event.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm from my city, guys, so You're just a staple
Corbin from Mayer.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
What's like the Young Jeezy song I put on Like that's
what I'm trying to do yes.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Alright, I think we gotta talk to Katie yeah, we
gotta keep it on peace, dude.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I was dying to ask that question, could you?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
imagine, though, like having all those people show up
and you're just like, uh, whatdo we do now?
I know All right.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Hey, how are you?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'm good.
How are you?
That's good.
So Caden McCaffrey is 22 yearsold, from Las Vegas, california.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
He made his debut last year Las Vegas Nevada.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Las Vegas, nevada.
I knew that you guys, I'mhomeschooled, Sorry.
Made his debut last yearbecoming a part of the Polaris
Factory Racing Team andcontinues to shine in the racing
world.
He recently won this lastmonth's San Felipe 250.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Dude on it at San Felipe, Congratulations.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
Thank you, yeah, it turned out good.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, but I first want to run down the race real
quick to see if everything wentsmooth and stuff.
Give us a whole race recap.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
A whole race recap.
Well, it was 284 miles, so alot went on, but honestly it was
actually a pretty slow day.
It felt like, um, that's kindof what happens when you win.
Um, not a lot happens whenthings are happening normally in
a race car.
Um, it's bad news.
So, uh, honestly pretty boredall day and then got got down to
the finish the last uh 30 milesor so and figured that if we

(23:36):
were going to try to win, webetter start now and um, kind of
started going, picking up thepace a little bit and got to the
finish line and I guess we won.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's a pretty uneventful race, and then you
had Haley in the car with youtoo, right?

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Yeah, she's been riding with me off and on for as
long as I've been racing prettymuch.
If it's got two seats, she's myfirst pick.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Heck, yeah, for as long as I've been racing pretty
much If it's got two seats she'smy first pick Heck.
Yeah, Does she do a good job?
Because, like dude, it's hardto ride at San Felipe.
You're hitting so many freakingbumps.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Yeah, I take care of myself pretty well, but if
anything goes awry she can cleanit up pretty fast.
She's super lightweight, that'sthe biggest advantage.
But yeah's, she's a smart girland it's good to have next to me
yeah, for sure benefits you inevery way yeah, totally well,
she's good at, she's good at herjobs yeah, well, yeah she is

(24:29):
just also like a different kindof mind.
All of us off-road racing menthink one way and you get her,
and sometimes she has differenttakes on things.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So that's a pretty, a pretty good thing to like
understand.
I don't even think about thattill right now.
Like you, probably thinkcompletely different than your
brother, though- oh, for sureyeah, that's crazy, whether yeah
men and women have differentmindsets.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But something like I forgot what it was.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I think it was like when danica patrick was racing
or something.
But somebody said like thatgirls have a quicker reaction
time than boys do.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I don't know if I'd give her the steering wheel yet,
but we can try.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm going to say quick reaction time, though when
you're navigating and you'reseeing all that stuff, I feel
like that's a huge deal.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Haley and Bella actually raced quite a bit, so
Bella knows how quick Haley'sreactions are.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I do you.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
So Bella knows how quick Hayley's reactions are.
Yeah, I do, you battled againsteach other.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yes, we did, really we raced together for a full
season, season and a halfprobably.
Oh man, yep, that's cool.
She was probably the most funcompetition that I've ever had,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Like clean racing, clean racing.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I learned from her.
It was pretty cool and shealways had GoPro footage.
Always she caught me runninginto a fence.
She caught me blasting out herGoPro.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
She caught me Dude Haley could freaking sabotage
you so often, didn't she breakyour wrist in Idaho?
Yeah, was that you.
Yeah, that was me that you,yeah that was me.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
No way, anyway, that's enough about her.
Yeah, let's talk about kids,yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I guess let's talk about kids.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Haley post some of those pictures and videos.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
So now that you're a part of the factory players team
, has that given you a differentoutlook or better understanding
of how a team or manufactureroperates?
Good question.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, normally when yourace off-road you're kind of
racing for your name or yourfamily's name.
You know that's like thebiggest thing, right, it's Bella
or it's Caden, and with thisit's kind of like it's Polaris,
you know, and it's way biggerthan me and my name's on the car
, but that's a really small partof it.
There's, you know, hundreds ofthousands of people that are
behind all the brands that areon our car.

(26:44):
I don't even know how manyemployees Polaris has, but all
those people are looking at meand the team to, you know, put
their work into the public's eyeand I feel like we've done that
pretty well and are going tocontinue to try to do that even
better.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
Does that give you more pressure or no?
Or you handle it pretty good.
You know, I, I sometimes peoplelike would ask you to get
nervous before the race, or doyou get a lot of pressure and I,
I don't really ever feel that.
Um, I, I think that's bad tothink about.
I mean, if you got something tobe nervous about, then you
probably shouldn't be racing.
So I mean, I never got thatnervous or felt much pressure,
and that probably doesn't dogood for most people.
So I figured, you know, maybemaybe in the beginning of my

(27:23):
racing career, when I thought,oh, am I going to be the guy
that's, you know, has a lot ofpressure and is really nervous,
or am I not?
I just chose not to be andfigured there was never a reason
to get nervous and you canleave.
You can leave the nerves untilyou know something.
Something bigger happens orsomething later in the race.
But uh, as far as before therace, I don't feel that too much
.
But yeah, it's definitely coolto be racing, for you know

(27:44):
something bigger than myself.
Yeah, that's actually a goodpoint, though, because, like,
that's a true racer right.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You just like you leave everything behind and just
focus on getting the job done.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, you want to read that comment.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Dylan Smoke said Kaden listens to Spice Girls
before the race.
Known facts.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
I don't know if that's a fact or not, but
Dylan's actually a backup driveron the team, so you know, maybe
before the race he's getting myiPod ready or something.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
iPod Dude I like that .
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's an okay response.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
That's that's perfect , yeah it was yeah, no, that's
really cool though, especiallygoing from more of a privateer
team to kind of seeing how stuffworks as like a manufacturer
bigger than yourself yeah, Idon't want to get too far into
the whole players team thing,because that's a whole show in
itself, but like when katie hasthe opportunity and I don't know

(28:43):
if you know this, bella, but hehasn't actually been racing for
that long Like he's stillpretty ignorant.
Right, he's been around racinghis whole life.
But when you get put into aposition where racing is now
your job, a lot of times itchanges for people Like it takes
away fun and all of thesedifferent things happen.
A lot of times it changes forpeople Like it takes away fun
and all of these differentthings happen.
But it doesn't seem like that'shappening right now because
he's got such a good attitudeand a mental perspective on

(29:05):
where he wants to go in hiscareer.
Like there's a very few peoplethat can actually sustain that,
so we should be proud of them.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
Yeah, I guess my answer for that was like to me I
started racing in the beginningof 2019.
That like it was never really ahobby for me.
Obviously, my dad has done itfor a living Most of, if not
almost, all, his life all hislife and all of my life so you
know, most of the things thatcome with making racing your job
were already expected on mekind of.
So to me it was never reallylike a hobby.

(29:35):
It was always like a thing thatyou go try to do your best at,
aka a job, but it doesn't reallyfeel like a job.
So I guess I got the best ofboth worlds.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, for sure, and especially coming from you, know
how you said, your dad hasraised his whole life too.
Is that stuff that you canbenefit off of, like learning
from him?
Do you go to him when you need,like a question about it, or
need some advice or someone topump you up?

Speaker 6 (30:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
I don't know about pumping meup but maybe slowing you down,
but no, no, normally, like inthe beginning, it was always
good to have somebody that Ikind of knew how it worked.
Um, he kind of probably couldforesee my future a little bit,
just with the amount of uhexperience he had and, um, you
know, a lot of the times thereweren't too many questions or
anything.
It was just kind of just I waskind of like a sponge and
growing up around it so much, Ijust learned so much about it

(30:22):
and um took it all in and wasable to when I, when it was my
turn to hold the steering wheel,I was able to do it, um, pretty
okay yeah, one of the thingsthat I like most about the
dynamic between kate and his dad, well, and now the whole family
right is like they utilizeeverybody for the knowledge, the
learning, learning, theinfrastructure, all of that
stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And, like he said, they're sponges right.
Like they learn from each other.
Sometimes they can bark at eachother, but that's like normal
human interaction, right.
But Caden does it his own way,like he knows what he wants and
he sticks to that and he usesall the other information to
benefit the way that he wants toproceed.
It's really cool to see him gothrough all that and to grow.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, yeah, he wants to proceed.
It's really cool to see him gothrough all that and to grow.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
It's super cool, especiallycoming from the family, to like
being able to share thatexperience with someone that you
know, you just come home to oryou grew up with.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
It's real fun when we get in the same vehicle
together and try to try to racetogether and it worked.
A lot of people think like, oh,it's bad, or we yell at each
other.
It's not like that at all.
It's pretty calm inside of arace car.
What needs to happen is we needto race each other against each
other in very similar race cars.
Not for bragging rights oranything.
I just want to see how it goes.
I've never, raced against them.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I want to see how that goes too you should be, on
the same radio channel and talkcrap to each other.
That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
We should use Star Street.
Yeah, I can see the battle, doit yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Hey, while we're talking about the family aspect
of it and all that, you have oneof the best pit crew in Amber.
She supplies you guys with themost amazing snacks every time
you guys are together.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
Yeah, absolutely.
She's been around it for a longtime, um, a lot of her life too
, so she's been around it and,um, she knows the deal when it
comes to mccaffrey motorsportsand everything, and a lot of
stuff gets handled without evenyou thinking about it.
So, uh, it's great to havesomebody like that around and,
and, um, you know, makes iteasier on us drivers for sure so
we all know that like your dadis usually his favorite is like
a Snickers ice cream bar orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
What's your favorite when you're out pre-running?

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Like out pre-running.
Oh I don't know.
Normally we're pre-running inBaja, so any food is good food
at that point and sometimes it'sjust the simplest thing like
trail mix or whatever you canget your hands on.
But after a long daypre-running, I think we just
came back from San Felipe andkind of in my opinion, San
Felipe kind of has the bestrestaurants and most variety of
food, for sure through anythingthat we raced in Baja through,

(32:45):
so I'll eat anything.
I found a pretty good Italianspot at San Felipe and that was
pretty good.
To come home from a long day oftouring and get some shrimp
Alfredo.
So I think I had that.
You could ask Haley, I probablyhad it six or seven days in a
row, maybe for less than two.
When you find something goodlike that, you just keep going
for it.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's just a repeat.
You never get tired of it.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
I'm so hungry now.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Thanks, I always heard of Uncrustables, but this
booth eats Alfredo Okay.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Normally I don't bring very many snacks with me
pre-running because I'm tryingto get to dinner as fast as
possible.
I don't have a lot of trailsnacks on the road.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta hop on this shrimp off-road and
stuff it's definitely good iceracing in Baja Sorry.
You're good.
I know Baja's Sorry, you'regood.
I know Baja is a wholeexperience in itself.
I haven't got to experiencethat yet, but from seeing all
your guys' posts and everything,it looks like a crazy rundown,

(33:51):
do you?
Have your passport?
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Maybe you should go down with Starstrain and hang
out, and then you can feel thelove.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Take me, I'm down.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
What else we got?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
We got a couple more.
Sometimes you can losemotivation, even with the sport
that we love most.
What do you do to regain yourstrength after a race and go the
way you planned?

Speaker 6 (34:12):
I just tell myself I don't have a choice.
I'm either going to like it orI'm going to like it.
So, you know, sometimes, youknow, things get you down, but I
don't think about the past toomuch.
I really don't think about thefuture too much.
I kind of just try to stay inthe present.
And you know, what's going ontoday is what I have to deal
with and, good or bad, I mean,you end up getting through it.

(34:33):
And you know the highs are high.
You know, I just came one, SanFelipe, and then Monday it's
like, oh, whatever, and I'm I'maccustomed to that which is so
good, racing short course andstuff was you race so much that
you know you'd win and you oryou lose and you have another
chance to go do that in a coupleweeks.
But with desert, you know, lastyear we raced four races and it
was like, oh, you know, yourace once every three months and
if you had a bad result which Ihad quite a bit of last year,

(34:55):
unfortunately um, there was.
You know, it seemed like therewas a lot of time to get down on
yourself.
But looking back on it, I neverthought I really did.
You know, it was always like oh, how do we get better, how do I
improve myself for the team,and uh, ended up winning the
thousand last year at the end ofthe year, so that kind of saved
the year for me.
And then um rebounding this yearat san felipe.
But uh, you know, at the finishline of of of the thousand I

(35:15):
was thinking about hammers, andat the finish line of the 1,000,
I was thinking about hammers,and at the finish line of San
Felipe I was thinking about theBaja 500.
So ever since we've gotten home, put the trophy in the trophy
case and started trying tofigure out how we can win the
Baja 500, which is definitelynot going to be easy.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, exactly you know what they say, though, too.
I think you've heard me saythis before.
Bella is like one of the besttraits about a racer racers they
have a short memory span yeah,right, like if you, if you
remember what you the mistakeyou made in the last corner,
you're already losing.
Yeah, you just gotta moveforward, and that's what kate is
talking about yeah, youdefinitely never get too high or
too low.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
I just like you know, even if you hit a rock, get a
flat, just whatever change it,forget about it.
You can't fix it, so just keepgoing.
That applies to life too forsure.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Well, and he's thinking about going and getting
shrimp off radio after exactly,I would be too you better get
that.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
You better get to the finish line fast, because
they're running out of shrimpthat's a great perspective,
though, especially here in your,from you, because you know we
all have to deal with somegnarly luck.
We can be the most amazingdrivers, but it's sometimes the
car is really what we're relyingon, and well, kind of like
hayden just hit it off, hit onit too.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
It's like that's the way you should deal with life,
yeah yeah, for sure I think,racing gives us a lot of that
too.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Like not a lot of kids get the chance to figure
that out, because they don't doas a demanding sport or
something like that.
So 100.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, you could.
You could go work for whatevera year or six months, eight
months, building the the coolestrace car ever, and you go to
your race and you make it twomiles right and if you get upset
about it and just you know, getrid of the race car, you're
never going to succeed.
So, uh, it's definitely,definitely a big part of the
sport yeah, and you can't.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You can't dwell on the past.
You can only fix your mistakesand move on.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Have you had some where you were just like so down
in the dumps?

Speaker 6 (37:04):
No, I honestly, you know the bad like.
I've been pretty fortunate inmy life to where, like, the good
results have probably alwaysoutweighed the bad results and
whenever there's been times thatthe bad results normally came
from me doing something stupid,honestly.
So, like, honestly, it was aneasy fix.
Just don't do that.
I've had, you know, pretty goodteams and, like, wasting my RS1

(37:26):
.
I was always prepping the thingmyself and had good luck.
So, honestly, never really hadmuch of a you know a run of bad
results due to things that youcouldn't easily fix.
Most of my stuff was justlearning or trying to figure out
learning to not do those things.
Most of my stuff was justlearning or trying to figure out
learning to not do those things.
And then I'm watching otherpeople and seeing how they do it
and put it all together intothis to the orb of success that
I'm trying to have yeah, forsure, so rad taking

(37:48):
accountability for that too.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
That rs1 that you had , though that was a pretty sick
like I still got her.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
I actually just tore to the frame.
It's uh guilt.
I'm guilty right now, but it'sbeen 13 months since I tore it
down to the frame and I actuallyjust walked in 10 minutes ago
from putting all the brake linesback in it.
So uh got her all powder coatedand I don't know what I'm gonna
do with her.
I gotta figure out if she wantsto go out the door.
It's kind of my first race carand had a lot of success and
kind of built me into what I,what I am today and gave me a

(38:17):
lot of opportunities.
So it'd be hard to sell her.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I don't know how many I was going to say if you could
make that the MVP, the mostvaluable Polaris, and just bring
her out whenever you want to.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yeah, I mean I would like to sell it and you know,
figure out what's next.
But I also know how many goodmoments and opportunities and
joys in my life came from thatcar and times that I was 3 am in
the race, shot in the shop, youknow, the night before leaving
for the race and the car wasn'trunning, and how.

(38:45):
You know running for thechampionship, whatever, and how
freaked out I was, and at allthat time I was either still in
high school or had a full-timejob.
So mixing all those thingstogether was definitely a point
in my life that like taught me alot of not time management,
because I've never been good atthat like trying to figure out
how to like squeeze a hundredthings into a box that can only
hold 10.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Those learning moments.
That's why that car is sospecial to Katie.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, she's got to come back out of retirement.
I raced that Red Bull Scramblewith Corbin.
That was actually the firsttime we ever raced each other.
I think I was always in adifferent class, but last year I
got my butt whooped.
I will say it's because I hadless power.
I had no power, but also,corbin is a great driver.
That is a part of it.
But it hasn't rained since Maylast year at that Red Bull

(39:26):
Scramble, so got to find somefun events to come, bring it out
to some that I think it couldbe competitive in and try to go
for broke.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I love driving that thing because it's just as fast
as you want to drive it, as hardas you can go.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
How rad would it be if you put like a 2.0 motor in
that thing from and just gavecorbin a run for his money I
think it'd still be tough, butum, you know there's, there's
like I've actually alwaysthought about racing that thing
in a desert race and I I'mpretty sure it'd be terrible
when shooting yourself in thefoot, but I'm sure it makes for
some good stories, you know,like a Silver State or honestly

(40:03):
even Baja, like I know it'sdefinitely not the best knife
for the cutting board, but we'llfigure it out.
I'm trying to figure out how tostrap a spare tire.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
The racing track guy David Clay.
He races RS1 and Baja, but dude, like it's gnarly like it's,
like it's next level, gnarly.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I've always wanted to build a single seat Pro R.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, that would be sick.
Does it still have a purplewrap on it?

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Yeah, she got wrapped .
It's in the same car.
I got that car in the beginningof 2019.
It's the same car, same frame,same trailing arms.
A lot of the stuff has been theexact same through all these
years.
So, uh, yeah, it's got.
It got wrapped the beginning oflast year.
A little bit of purple and it'sstill got her on there.
Um and uh, yeah, as we talkabout it, I think you know, when

(40:52):
I'm working on the thing I justkeep thinking about when I get
to the end, I'm going to sell it.
But as we keep talking about it, I I think she needs to come
out of retirement.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, I think you need to pull her out, at least
for one last go-around.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
I agree.
One turns into two really fastand into four and six and you
never get rid of it.
Dude, the RS1s are just so funoh yeah, it definitely is,
that's where it all started.
I feel like For a lot of peopleyeah.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, dude, so talking about.
Starstream.
We got some dudes stillqualifying to Legacy right now.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
I was watching Travis Travis Lee.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I watched his qualifying run and he's got it.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
He's got it with the intercom and I'm pretty sure
it's his dad riding with him.
Yeah right, yeah, I was superstoked to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I texted Chris Mankin and I'm like dude, the audio is
gold, we can hear him.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
It's pretty good, Even when they radioed in or
satellite communication into thechase crew.
The Mankins were in Murrietaand they could hear him clean as
day.
That's so cool.
We can hear it on the livestream.
It was rad to hear all thatstuff.
It's next level.
We can hear it on the livestream.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
It's just cool.
It was rad to hear all thatstuff.
Like it's next level becauseyou can like experience it.
Like I was like driving overhere, to like going down the
highway or whatever, and I wasgetting chills.
I'm like yes, you got it.
Just keep working on it andgetting it better and better and
more stuff and then it's coolfor do you think we're gonna be

(42:30):
like oh okay, oh belly, youcould have done over here and be
sitting on the couch, theremote control, just watching my
car and driving it.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
They're going to hear Caden talking about the shrimp
off right now If they mic up theaudio to Haley and Caden.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
That would be so awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh, I would love to hear that audio.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
I don't know there's not a lot of talking.
Anytime it's talking it's likenormally nonsense, so it'd be
interesting.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
That's funny.
I've always wondered how it'slike for, like different
co-drivers and drivers, whatthey speak about, because me and
.
Dylan, like sometimes we'll beserious and talking about really
you know like okay, this nextshow you got to be ready for it.
And then sometimes it's likeyesterday.
You know, I had this good likechill, but it just wasn't.
It didn't hit the spot yeahit's pretty similar.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And everything I've driven is pretty similar to that
.
There's some people I don'tknow if it's even legal, but
some people listen to music.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, some people listen to music.
I could never, I would go crazy.
You gotta try it once.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
I like listening to the car.
In the rules of off-road racingyou shouldn't be listening to
music while you're racing.
You're supposed to listen tothe car and vibrations and
everything.
Pre-running 100% Podcasts, allthose things.
I haven't listened to musicwhile racing very often, but
when I have, it's been prettyfun Do you have a hype song.

(43:55):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Do you have a hype song before?

Speaker 6 (43:59):
the race.
No, my thoughts are enough toget me hyped up.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, dude.
So I'm the same as Caden and Iwas talking to Craig Scanlon
about this stuff and, like,honestly, he surprised me.
His is Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
What?
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
It's pretty badass though, because that's what gets
him hyped.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
Like you'll see him listen to his iPod and you're
like, all right, don't bother.
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Either Craig or.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Blake, what's your hype song?
I don't know if I can tell youyeah, do you Is it.
G-eazy or somebody?
No, do you guys know who Queenis?

Speaker 6 (44:32):
Yeah Queen Really.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, that's a good song Because it's got like a
subtle like okay, you're slowlygoing into it and you're pulling
up to the line.
Okay, then it's like right,when you're about to go off,
that's when it drops.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
That's your problem.
That's probably why otherpeople have hype songs.
That's probably why people getnervous.
They're trying to hypethemselves up when they need to
be calming themselves down.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
That's probably my problem.
Then I wonder why I get nervousQueen right before I'm about to
go off.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
That's funny.
We should do a poll on that andsee like well, brooklyn just
joined us.
We could ask everybody and belike dude, what's your guys'
hype song before you guys get it?
Oh.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I would love to, or like someone's like walkout song
, like for Supercross or UFC oranything like that, like they
got hype songs.
Why can't the Razors have?

Speaker 3 (45:15):
any, I don't want this.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
You can tell so much about somebody.
It's like it would be kind oflike you know you're sitting at
the poker table and you haveyour poker face on.
If you released like your hypesong, people would know your
vibe Like right away.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh yeah, they would know what you're coming in, what
your intentions are.

Speaker 6 (45:33):
I'd like to play some mind games with that.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, dude, you could , you really could.
That would be so sick.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
All right well I don't have any more questions
for you, but do you, george?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
no, I think he's doing a great job, like all the
stuff that he's doing.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You know he's focusing on on being a
professional racer.
He's got a you know career likedoing all of this great stuff
and um, from the outside itmight look like it's a little
easier than it is, but I knowhow much work he puts in.
I know how much work his familyputs in.
I know how much work the teamputs in and to be able to see
him start excelling at this insuch a young stage of his life.

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I mean he's got still at least40 or 50 years of racing left.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
You're only in your 20s, there's so much.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
You know what.
Actually somebody else put thisin the Gypsy Tail podcast
Talked to Adam Cicerello afterhe retired, or after he said he
was going to retire fromprofessional motocross and said,
I kind of feel like this is thebeginning of your second life,
right?
Like for Katie, this is stillthe beginning of his first.
I mean, he has so much room togrow.
It's badass to think about howawesome it's going to be in the

(46:37):
next 10 years.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, and even just going through the eras of each
different type of racing.
And you know you're enteringinto a new one right now, so I'm
really super happy for you.
Can't wait to see what you gotin the works.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Thank you, Wait, you said what is your real life song
.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
You're not being honest, oh, you got a different
one.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
What is it?
You cheesed out.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
It's probably not PG, is it?
What'd you say?
It's probably not PG.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, yeah no.
It's definitely not.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
She's holding back Jess.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Oh, dude, All right guys.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Thank you so much Later.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Kate, I want to know what it is.
What's it going to take?
What kind of question do wehave to ask to get it out of you
?
Who's next Brock?

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Brock is next.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I'll add him on here real quick.
Is he friends with the DirtLife.
I don't know We'll have tothere, you go, alright.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Brock Dickerson is next.
He is from Braw.
I don't know Should be.
We'll have to.
There you go, so alright.
So Brock Dickerson is next.
He is from Brawley, california,and started his racing career
in 2008.
He made a mark in the desertworld and-.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
How are you doing?
Oh hi.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Brock's also making a mark on the screen right now
with his fire nebulous mustache,oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
It took some work.
It took a while.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (48:05):
I'm doing good.
Honestly, it's kind of my firsttime on a podcast like this, so
I really don't know what toexpect.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
That's super sick.
Well, we're glad you came onand I'm trying to ask you some
questions.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
You were probably.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I have the most questions for you out of
everyone All right, so I havesome fun stuff to talk about
with him too, but I'm waiting tosee him on the screen so I can
do an Instagram story or reelwith Bella's Corner and then get
his mustache closed up, so goahead and ask your questions,
and then I'll just focus on myInstagram.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
All right, so I did want to hop right into the truck
.
Tell us a little bit about yournew build.
What class do you run it in andwho built it?

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, so we got a new Alumacraft trophy truck and
we've been working on it forprobably like three years, but
well, started it three years agoand then got held up for the
tranny.
Coming from Albans, out ofAustralia, I got stuck in the
COVID lockdowns.
Basically, we had to wait likea year for a transmission which

(49:06):
held up a bunch of stuff and youknow.
So that put it behind, butsimply first race on it.
Eleven hundred horsepower, sixgears, paddle shift, it's, it's
just insane.
It was.
It blew me away.
We only had about 100 testmiles on it before san felipe

(49:26):
150, I think.
So uh, we're really stillbreaking it in.
Um, I was a bit uh, I don't wantto say what's the right word
for that Just a bit upset, notdisappointed or anything.
In the rear gear we lost athird member, basically 240
miles into the 250, which reallysucked, because I thought it

(49:51):
was a transmission when it broke.
I just misdiagnosed it,basically.
But other than that, I mean thetruck ran great the whole time.
I mean I love it, it's fast,it's stupid fast, basically.
But no, we're just lookingforward to it.
We got the Instagram banner.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, no, for sure, that's super cool.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
It is kind of crazy to think about, though, when you
put in that much work,especially with the time delays
and stuff.
Right, like all of us racersunderstand, you just want to get
out there and race, like you'reso excited, like let's just go,
go, go, and then I don't wantto say you got let down right,
but like you learned a lesson,you were like, okay, we put in
all this effort and then all ofa sudden like, okay, that was it

(50:34):
, it was a little part, it was afailure.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
There's nothing that you could have done about it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
But now you have the opportunity to go and redo it
like we were just talking withkatie, so you pretty much just
put that behind you and go forthe next race, or what?

Speaker 5 (50:45):
uh, that's the plan.
Now that we know what broke andwhy it happened, we've kind of
just been circling around it forthe past three weeks and four
weeks, um, just trying to figureout exactly what to do.
So now I think we know what tofix, what we change, how to
write, you know, make it fast.
I mean, that was the roughestsan felipe course of everything.

(51:07):
I've raced there four or fivetimes now and, uh, it was just
straight square edge.
It was ridiculous, or I don'twant to say ridiculous, it was.
It's San Felipe, it's alwaysgoing to be rough, right, but
that just puts so much wear onthose parts.
But yeah, now we know what weneed to change, how to improve

(51:28):
it.
I mean, like I said, we onlyhad 100 and I think the exact
number was like 132 test milesbefore San Felipe.
That's crazy, that's half arace right, like I'm near a
brand new truck still and, uh,just went into it and we learned
.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
So it's pretty new for um Alumacrafts too, for sure
, but um selecting a builder forthe trophy truck is a huge
commitment.
What strong points did you seein Alumacrafts build that made
you want to commit to it?

Speaker 5 (51:58):
so I raced a tisco truck, uh, in 2022.
The main reason for that wasbecause we were still waiting on
the alumicraft whatever, how Isaid held up by the transmission
through covid.
Um, I went with the lumicraftjust because great relationship,
uh, john well, not thereanymore, but but always took me

(52:21):
under his wing and helped me outa lot.
Pro buggy car, I mean, damn it,he brought my one car and it
wasn't even a Lumacraft.
Dang, yeah, I mean, that wasthe main reason we went with
them and they just helped uswith what we wanted to do, you
know.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, for sure, we were just talking about it
before the show like how muchpeople matter, right, like once
you find a person that you'relike, you gel with, or whether
it's a mechanic or I don't know,even your best friend, like
it's just one of those thingsthat you always want to keep
working with them.
That's super cool that you'vebeen able to do that and stay
loyal in quotes you know what Imean.
Like, because that's hard to do, especially in racing, because

(52:59):
people want to just move forwardand they jump to the next
bigger thing.
But you've stayed loyal.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
That's rad yeah, no, it's been tough.
I mean even like thinking,trying to drive been my main
goal for the past two years isto drive for someone else.
I mean, I think goal is kind ofI get just uh driving, not
arriving drive, but just drivefor someone else.
Right, costs are way down andyou don't have to deal with

(53:25):
working on your own truck.
But I don't know.
It's tough to say Sorry.
I'm reading the comments.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I actually want to phrase this question a little
different, though.
So Dangler88 asks how's theTisco compared to the Lumicraft?
But instead of talking aboutthe trucks, talk about how they
feel when you're driving them.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
For me that's kind of hard to say between the two,
because when I hear thatquestion I think like suspension
geometry how the thing goes inand out of corners whoops
whatever.
Geometry how it goes in and outof corners whoops, whatever.
Having a motor with 200 morehorsepower in this truck and a
transmission with three moregears and paddle shifting makes
it hard to compare, just in thesense that the truck itself has

(54:11):
the drivetrain to make it faster.
You know, so you can't, makesit hard to say like, oh, this
thing's so much smoother, soit's so much faster, right,
because it's put it on thehighway.
We did it in 53 and it had more, and so it makes it hard to say
, um, I like the craft, just Ithink it digs a little bit or

(54:35):
has a bit more forward bite.
But I also have disco since thethousand of 2022, so a kind of
far off, whatever they base it awhile since I've drove that one
.
So it's not an exact comparison, um, but both trucks have their
strong points.
I mean, I think the tisco wasmaybe a little bit more nimble.

(54:57):
I have them a lot differently.
The shocks on old truck, I hadthem a lot stiffer.
This truck is really soft forSan Felipe, which I kind of wish
I would have made a little bitstiffer after going through the
race and hitting all thosewhoops.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Do you have to have a conversation with your lower
back the next day and be likeman?
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
It's been through enough now.
I mean, the 10 cars really toreme up down there.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
And a 10 car compared to the truck.
I mean it's just smooth, youknow, not a problem.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, not comparable it really isn't, but hey.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So a couple things that I wanted to bring up is
like so I started racingside-by-sides in late 2014,
early 2015.
Okay, and Brock was already atthe track.
He was a little kid dude and Idon't want to be like the old
guy saying this, but the reasonI'm bringing it up is because
every time we got on the trackhe was always fast, but the best

(55:56):
part about it was is theirfamily and their support
mechanism was always there.
Like I love that, because theywere one of the first teams that
showed me that off-road wassuch a uh, I don't know a
collaborative effort andeverybody was willing to help
yeah, that's super cool yeah, itwas just neat to see right when
he was three.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
yes, yeah, Anyway, what year did you say that was
George?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
It was like I think you were barely getting into
UTVs like late 14, early 15.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
That's what I was thinking.
I was probably around 13, 14 atthe time.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
yeah, yeah, and his mustache was perfect then too.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
No, that's so cool, especially at the start.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
That's like the ripe age yeah, I remember I needed
some sort of part and they likethey even went around the pits
looking for the part.
That's crazy, that's so sick,because I was used to dirt bikes
like I didn't know and I waslike, oh, these guys are gonna
be dicks like they're nevergonna like help me out such a
different world.
Yeah, it was like awesome andI'm like holy crap, like whole
team, like everybody on the teamwas so awesome to me.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I do have another question whatinvolvement did you have in the
progress of the build?
Were there things that werelike we were just talking about
this, but things that weretailored to you, or your driving
you know, something that youwouldn't compare to with another
driver?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
That's a tough question.
I wouldn't say it was.
There was anything like thatwas typically one off.
I mean we did build the truck.
It at first it was a sequentialum set up with the shifter adam
switch it to paddles after notlong, uh, so they did work and
after all the links, all that,yeah um, but it wasn't really,

(57:40):
uh, special input.
I mean they knew what, how tallare you?
I'm.
I think I'm like five, eight, Idon't know.
I haven't measured myself inforever and the seat was raised
four inches.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, ty, in forever.
The seat was raised four inches.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, tyler, just said the seat was raised four
inches.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Was that like a?
Day Does he always mess withyou the Tisco, yeah, so yeah,
tyler preps the Tisco and thattruck.
It had more of a seat than theTisco or the Tisco prep.
Sorry, but now back to thequestion.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Really there's nothing special for me.
Five-nine with a mustache.
Hey, actually, this is a goodpoint that I was actually
bringing, like we were talkingabout seating, like yesterday or
today.
But anyways, when you sit inthe race car, do you sit like
real straight up and like reallylike up towards, like on the
steering wheel, or do you liketo be a little bit more back and
down further?

(58:39):
Because I think there's a bigdifference in how you uh
perceive the race depending onhow you sit and where you're
sitting in the truck yes, uh, Ilike.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
I like sitting closer to the wheel.
It kind of I don't know if Ican't really, but I like my arms
to be close to me and I likethe wheel.
I don't know if I can't really,but I like my arms to be close
to me and I like the wheel.
Probably only three inchesEnough room for my hands if I
need to go over the wheel.
I like being on the wheel,Especially in a truck.

(59:11):
You have to try to be over thehood for any you're going down
hills or anything you need to,to try to be over the hood for
anything.
If you're going down hills oranything, you need to be able to
be over the front.
I try to sit within like twoinches or so.
Yeah, Like just all the way upDang.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
How do?

Speaker 2 (59:31):
you like sitting in the car.
I like pretty close to thewheel, but I'm usually pretty
low.
So, mostly because I like to Idon't know I feel more closer to
the track and I just feel likeI have a better foundation when
I'm not as high up.
If I'm high up, I feel supertippy, even mostly like my seat.
Like.
I know that the car is notraised, but I still feel very
tippy, yeah, it's the perceptionof where you're at.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yes, for sure, that's kind of crazy that you say that
Like Rob will know this too,especially from short course
racing.
But like, the more you can beone with the car and like feel
it yeah, they call it likedriving with your butt right,
yeah, Because you can feel itand you can understand
everything so everything fromthe center of your body moves
less.
When you can do that Like, like, if you have those four

(01:00:16):
elements to be able to sensethose things down in your core,
that means that you're you'remove less on the steering wheel,
you move less on the footpedals and you can drive so much
easier because everything iscentered yeah, for sure, I agree
yeah and I'm with you on that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
And I like to be low normally, but just with the
truck I mean, the hood is fivefeet out of the dash, like.
If you're not as close as youcan get, the vision sucks.
But like in a Razor, I sit allthe way down, eyes damn near
just above the wheel.
You know, it doesn't bother mein something like that, more of

(01:00:47):
an open-wheel car with the whenthe front's a little bit shorter
, but with the truck I justprefer being as high as I can.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I got a good segue here.
So he's like leaning back likea cholo and a razor.
Does that mean that you have aspecific hype song when you go
to race?

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
like no, I I heard you guys asked this one for kate
and I was trying to come upwith one, but no, um, if
anything, it would just be likea hard rock song.
You know, I don't have anythingspecific, just something to get
my heart rate up, cause, if not, I just, I don't know, I get
nervous, honestly, my name isKira.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I feel like the mustache fits the hard rock.
I guess, he could go crunchy,yeah, but they've been having a
lot of intermingling.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Rap guys now are running country mustaches yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Does he also wrap it around the wheel when he needs
both hands to eat his sandwich?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Your mustache has muscle memory.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
Kind of yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I feel like it's funny because, first of all,
it's awesome that he's alreadygot that.
He's cultivating it.
It's badass.
But I feel like it's funnybecause we're talking about
serious stuff and everybody'sbeing dicks and being like no,
let's talk about his mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I've tried to be serious for like a second, but I
can't right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
How long did it take you to grow that bad?

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
dog, I know dude, I just had someone ask me that
like yesterday and I startedthinking back and honestly I
couldn't tell you.
I mean I'm I want to say likearound a year almost, but I
really don't know.
I mean I can't think back withthe racing and everything I'm
just always thinking for, likethe next thing, we're always
going forward.

(01:02:47):
Right, I've lost track of time,like how fast time has passed
in the past couple years and so,yeah, I, I really couldn't tell
you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
We're talking about like doing all kinds of crazy
stuff to the truck, like do youhave to use special sauce on the
Mustang, I know no, oh, like onthe daily or like when I'm
racing.
Oh, just to keep it pristine.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
I do put a little bit of stuff in it, yeah, just to
keep it nice and soft and smooth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
He's ready for this dude I'm liking the effort.
All right, going into somethinga little more serious, um, you
mentioned to me that you werecurrently attending asu.
What's your major?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
first of all, oh god, um, so I'm, I'm, I've kind of
drug this college deal out alittle bit.
But I started in engineering,didn't work out, basically
wasted.
That Went to business.
Now I'm basically doingbusiness and entrepreneurship.

(01:03:51):
Okay, should be graduating inDecember.
Okay, but be graduating inDecember?
Okay, but we'll see.
I just got some pretty bad newsthat I've been doing online
back here in California.
Probably I thought I was goingto be able to graduate online
and I guess my major doesn'treally offer that.

(01:04:12):
So my last, like five classes,I need to take my last semester.
Either I'm going to have tomove back to school or change to
another major, I don't reallyknow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I feel like they always do that, though I feel
like there's always somethingthat happens like that, because
you're not the first personthat's told us, like me, that at
least I'm just like dude.
Why can't?
It just happen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
Yeah, like me that at least I'm just like dude.
Why can't it just happen?
Yeah and like, and thedisappointing part is, I mean, I
only moved to online december,so like into the fall semester,
whatever, to start this year,and uh, I was a impression that
I could finish fully online andnot have to go back, and not the
case.
So, yeah, yeah, a littlefrustrating.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Because racing is so demanding.
Did that kind of influence thedecision to move school online?

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Oh, for sure.
I mean.
That was one of the mainreasons I basically live at my
shop.
My house is right in front ofthe shop, whatever.
So I do all the work on the pre, most of the work on it.
It's a lot of time and here, ifnot.
I'd end up driving back theother weekend.

(01:05:25):
You know, for three days justwork on the car non-stop and
drive back.
So just makes more sense for meto do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Honestly, that bums me out like I hate hearing
stories like that because likethe first, the first thing that
you think you're like all right.
Well, fuck it, I don't know howyou're going to complete it,
like I already got the education.
I just won't have a piece ofpaper now because like that
stuff like really like it'swasting.
Your time is what it is, andtime is so valuable.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
Yeah, yesterday about it and I basically told him I
was like I've spent too muchtime here, like I'm just ready
and I need to keep on.
And you know, like keep, like Idon't want to say holding me
back, like I could be doingother things, and yeah, I've got
college now but having onesemester left, like you said,
like I don't want to quit, I'mfinished now but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I'm stuck in this loop, in a sense yeah, I hate
that people put you in aposition like that, like, and
then we actually talk about thisall the time.
There's a process and there'speople right, and the people are
always held up by the process.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
If the people would just think outside the box and
have a different perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
They could adjust the process and then the people
would Win, no matter what, onboth sides.
Yeah, but it doesn't happen.
It's so weird.
Well, what's up?
What are the racing questionsdo you have?
Because I actually Well, so,first and foremost, we already
talked about a couple things.
You talked about you driving atrophy truck.
We talked about you guysbuilding a trophy truck.

(01:06:55):
It took a while to build andyou had all the patience to do
that.
We talked about your educationand we talked about you know you
as a youngster.
Like, where does that all feedin to the next 10 years of your
life?
Because there's a lot to unpackthere.
Right, like, how do you foreseeeverything that's going to
happen?
Because you're going to have aneducation.
You're going to have aneducation.
You're going to have a trophytruck that works better next

(01:07:19):
race.
There's all kinds of thingsthat are going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Yeah, that's something I've been asking
myself for the past six monthsprobably now, knowing I'm
getting close to the end ofschool.
I mean, right now I'm just backhome working on the farm,
basically just helping my dad.
But when I graduate, what am Igoing to do from there?
I still haven't figured outwhat I want to do.
I'm going to have a businessentrepreneurship degree, but

(01:07:43):
what do I want to do with that?
I'm not sure really.
I just want to follow racing.
That's all I know.
I've been doing it, for this ismy 16th year.
I'm 23.
It's the majority of my life.
That's really all I know.
All I've done is worked on carsand drove them.
That's a hard one for me toanswer, because I really don't

(01:08:07):
know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
I don't want to say I'm just playing it by ear but
hoping for my calling, I guessright, I'm just well and I can
understand the the latency toask that or to answer that
question too, because you haveso many things that are just
being like kind of just floatingin the air right now, right
with all the things that havehappened over the past couple

(01:08:30):
weeks, like I get it, uh.
But I know that you want to bea champion, I know that you want
to race and I know that youwant to be a champion.
I know that you want to raceand I know that you want to make
the sport better so do any ofthose things ever influence your
mindset to be like you knowwhat if it doesn't work this way
.
I'm going to go this way, orlike.
Do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
like a racer like I will always achieve a goal so
all of it, yeah, so I'd like tokeep racing.
Um, it's just, it's expensiveto race a trophy truck, right.
So we're doing it again.
And even if I had to get out ofracing like driving a car
itself, right I think I'd stillbe in the industry.

(01:09:05):
Somehow, like I want to stay inthe industry because I feel
like I don't want to say I couldhelp it, but I've got a solid
experience at such an age thatit's just what I know you know
and.
I don't know if I could say I'dbe like an announcer or anything
like that.
I don't think I have the speechskills for that, but uh.

(01:09:28):
I've even thought maybe I'll godown the uh more of the fab side
.
You know I've always had aninterest in that, but it's
something I've never fullylearned.
I've kind of taught myself alittle bit enough for what I
need to do.
But uh, yeah, I mean I racingis my life.
Right, that's what I've beenaround.

(01:09:48):
I can't afford my life, butwe'll see.
I mean I'm open to reallyanything.
It sucks to say now that I'vegot a really nice truck and
everything brand new, I havejust as much fun racing 10 cars.
As long as I'm behind the wheel, I'm having fun.

(01:10:12):
Obviously, the trophy truck isjust another level.
Like it's just insane.
I can go out there and raceanything and just really just
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Yeah, I honestly like that, Like, and just to hear
how mature he is and how humblehe is.
He has a lot of humility, right?
Yeah, I think you could be afantastic mentor too, even at
your young age, right, like theway that you talk and the way
that you uh, carry yourself,yeah, and how?
You how you understand andrelate to people like you don't
just have to be a racer.
Like you can be a helper too,and I think dude now that I'm

(01:10:45):
putting two and two together.
I think that started when youwere young, like what I saw from
your guys's team I'm sorry wait, what do you mean?
Like how you like how youlearned, like, like you're a
mentor, like you were taught,like to help yeah, no, I mean,
my dad is.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
I don't want to say he's taught me on my own or
independent, you know, but he'sshown me so much now that just
from learning what he's taughtme and how he taught me, you
know, I feel like I cantranslate it also to other
people very well.
But yeah, no, I'm, that issomething I actually considered,
I don't know why.
The thought just kind of poppedinto my head a couple days ago.

(01:11:25):
Um, just what about like adriving school, or just random?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
for sure.
That's exactly what I wasthinking.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
I.
I don't know if I could do that.
I would feel like I'm on a highhorse if I did that.
I think like I thinking.
I don't know if I could do that.
I would feel like I'm on a highhorse if I did that.
I think Like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
The best teachers are the ones that are on the same
level as everybody else, forsure, the ones that definitely
see themselves on the same levelas who they're teaching.
Yeah, 100%.
You know what Teachers learnmore from the students than they
do when they teach it's crazy.
Something like you know whatthey like?
Teachers learn more from thestudents and they teach like
it's crazy.
So, like, something like thatwould be super cool, you know

(01:12:00):
what?
Because that doesn't reallyeven Exist.
Like it's like it, that wouldbe new for the industry.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
Yeah, there's my dad commenting stunt driving.
Yeah, that needs the strutdriver.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I've always had an interest in that.
I'll be a stunt driver inmovies.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
That sounds really fun, you gotta let me know what
movies you're in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah, the stunt driving thing does sound pretty
cool.
Our boy, dustin Nelson, does alot of that stuff now too.
But what I just thought of withstunt driving.
You know how many hype songshe's gonna get from stunt
driving.
Oh, you're gonna do a hype song.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, you gotta let me know when you figure that out
too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
All right, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Do you have any more questions?

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
No, I just wanted to say thank you for the help you
did and when you showed me forOff-Road man here.
I can't wait to see you get outthere and just rip that trophy
truck.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
All right.
Thank you guys for having me on.
It was good catching up, George.
It's been a long time since wetalked.
Bella, thank you for the invite.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Thank you so much for everything.
I had a blast talking to you,Bye bro.
Bye bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Dude he's such a solid guy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
I know for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
You know what's cool about that, though, too, his
family was jumping in, andhanging out and chiming in too
and making jokes.
No, that was super sick ournext guest is one of my
favorites our next guest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
I have never talked to, but has been my role model
for so long dude and she hasnice hair yes, she always has
nice hair.
You got an intro hi brooke.
Yes, I do so.
Brookeensen is from you said asmall town in California.
Yeah, what if I pronounced itwrong?
Pine and Hills, oh yeah,pennant, pennant Hills.

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She started her career at justnine years old.
Huge Lucas Oil background, butnow takes on the desert,
accomplishing two back-to-backpodiums at California University
.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Solid.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Solid Thank you Solid .

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Thank you yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
So are you going to be attending California 300 this
year?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
So unfortunately, I don't think we're going to be
attending this year.
We're kind of just figuring outwhat exactly the next step is
in my career and from then maybewe'll see if we're going to
stay in the desert.
If not, then maybe at a see.
If we're going to stay in thedesert, um, if not, then maybe
at a different event.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, for sure and wait.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
What are the other options?
You know we've we've thoughtabout um, nitro, uh cross, the
rally racing um has definitelygrown and so that has caught my
interest uh, recently.
I do have a huge short coursebackground, so that could
definitely be a factor.
There's just so many differentopportunities within racing that

(01:14:44):
everything's kind of just up inthe air figuring out what is
going to be the best for us inthe next step.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
So, brooke, if you want any help with getting into
natural rally cross, I can callScottie Lawrence and try to give
you a little bit of a one up soyou can thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Thank you, I appreciate that yeah, just let
me know yeah, we recently wentto the nitro crossing glen helen
this last year, but it was acrazy turnout, super cool.
The racing is phenomenal, soI'd love to see you out there.
That'd be super rad thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Yeah, we uh we went to one of them and watched, and
you know I've watched Cowboy andAmanda Sorensen and everybody
kind of stepping into it and Ireally love the publicity that
people get from it.
And it's something I do miss inshort course.
You know, short course was allabout the fans and traveling
across the world and desert.

(01:15:33):
I feel like that's one thingthat I do miss is most of our
races are in, you know, barstowor las vegas or something along
the lines of that, and it wouldbe really cool to kind of set
foot in that um field again andkind of see what I can do yeah,
she's got a really good pointthere too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
It's like when you're out in the middle of desert,
they're probably watching, butwhen you're in a close course
environment, there's a lot ofpeople right, so you can
interact with people.
And one of the things that Ithink makes her heart the
happiest is actually beingaround people yeah, for sure
definitely 100 percent scrollingthrough your instagram just for
a second.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
I saw like all the keynote stuff that you do and
all the things that you do withkids and everything like that
being able to like talk topeople on such a personable
level is really cool yes, it'sdefinitely something I love and
the keynote speaking hasdefinitely has a special spot in
my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Um, yeah, the way that these kids you know respond
to my speech and kind of mystory is just, it inspires me
sometimes.
They inspire me that reallycool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I want to know a little bit more about keynotes.
Can you give me a rundown oflike how that works and just the
general basic stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, so actually I started keynote speaking about,
I would say, probably five yearsago.
I keynote spoke at the middleschool that I went to school at
and you kind of just you know,tell your story and I inspire
the kids as of my messages.
Your condition is not yourconclusion.
Where you are right now is notwhere you're going to end up, as

(01:17:04):
long as you're willing to putin, you know, the hard work and
determination and all of theabove, where you are, the home
you're raised in, the friendsyou're around, doesn't have to
be the end of your journey.
So, kind of sharing a littlebit about my story, we play a
quick video of you know theracing industry and what I do
and where I came from, and thenshow a quick glimpse of you know

(01:17:26):
my treatment, that I go throughwith Lyme disease, and then you
know, just give them therundown of inspiring them and we
go outside after we show themthe car and sign autographs,
takes picture, take pictures anduh, gosh, it's awesome, it's
between racing and keynotespeaking.
It's their, their hand in hand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Yeah, that's super rad and you know what's funny
about that statement is and Iknow everybody in this
conversation right now andeverybody that's watching will
understand this racing is only alittle part of conversation
right now, and everybody that'swatching will understand this
Racing is only a little part ofit, right?
Yeah, the things that you do tohelp other people.
That's what the real win isLike.
That's the real win, right?
And some of this stuff has Idon't know connections in it,

(01:18:10):
right, brooke?
Because you can go win a race,but you have to fight through
that race.
You have to get stuck in a rut,you know, but you have to fight
through that race.
You have to.
You get stuck in a rut, youknow you want to cry.
You have to get to the finishline.
You can't give up.
You got to push your pain.
You got to push your broken car.
All of that stuff peopleexperience in life, whether it's
Lyme disease, whether it'sdiabetes, whether it's a broken
bone, whether it's somebody elsearound you dying, whether it's

(01:18:33):
a breakup any of that stuff,right?
And so you're culminating allof this stuff and sharing your
experiences with people, and thebest part about it is it's just
true, it's real life and youare able to have that connection
with those people.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It must feel so good and it does.
In one of my um motivationvideos that we did, um I told,
or I I said that I look at lifelike a finish line.
You know, in a race there's somany challenges.
Each mile there's so manychallenges, and that's just like
every year, every day, everysecond.
You know everything we go to.
You've got to overcome them tobe able to get to that finish

(01:19:10):
line.
In life, as well as in racing,especially in desert racing and
as long as you're willing to,you know, put in the hard work,
especially these kids now thatlive in the society and the
world that we live in.
Their hope isn't all there,just like how.
When I was raised, you know, Ihad so much hope and these kids
get brought down a lot and whatthey're raised around with
social media.

(01:19:30):
It's insane.
And as long as I can touch onelife out of all 800 kids that I
speak to in a day, you know Ifeel like I'm winning.
I definitely feel that at leastone life that I can touch is
important.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
For sure, have you ever had a instance in your
career like a trial, where youhad to kind of shift your
perspective from like being youknow not I don't want to say
negative, but being in like adifferent perspective to just
kind of shifting it like okay,I'm going to look at it from
this point of view now and seeif it helps.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Yeah, 100%.
I would feel that my biggestchallenge that I've had is being
diagnosed with Lyme diseasewhen I was just four years old.
I do know nothing differentthan being sick every day, but
there's definitely days that youknow, hey, I have treatment, I
have a doctor's appointment, oryou know, I can't do that.
I don't, I'm not capable,capable for that right now, and

(01:20:26):
I feel like that was that'sdefinitely a challenge that
keeps coming up in my life thatI just kind of have to adapt to.
And you know I can't do that,but I can do this, and that's
why I love racing so much,because when I'm racing it's
more of as an escape for me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Um, I put a helmet on and my eyes are blank and I'm
just right, on course for sureis that hard to fight, though,
because, like a racer mentalityis like patience is not an
option, like you don't havepatience and then all of a
sudden in life you just getkicked in the in the shins and
you're like great, like now Ihave to wait, now I have to go
through this process and nowlike that must teach you so much
yeah, 100, 100, especiallyright now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Um, I feel like this year, as we're taking racing a
little bit slower and goingthrough treatment, um, it's hard
, it's really hard, but I knowthat if I'm willing to put my
body at the best it can be bythe end of this year, I can't
imagine what the next years areto be to become Like.
I can tell you this last monthI probably had 20 vials of blood

(01:21:29):
drawn and tests done, thatthings that I didn't even know
about that were going on with me, like being allergic to lettuce
, like who would ever know?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
yeah, gosh, I don't know what I'd do without lettuce
that's wild.
Yeah, wow, yeah, there's likeuh from your point of view for
sure, like even personallyhaving to deal with something,
but kind of like in the long run, like yes, I have to deal with
something, but kind of like inthe long run, like, yes, I have
to deal with this today, but youknow, if I deal with it today,

(01:21:58):
tomorrow will be a little bitbetter.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Yes, and that's the hardest part is learning to take
care of my body, because I'malways somebody that's go, go,
go, you know, going to collegeworking full time.
You know, racing keynotespeaking, I tend to not care
about how I feel, and you know,racing keynote speaking, I tend
to not care about how I feel andyou know the things that are
happening and I'm slowlyrealizing that that's taking a

(01:22:21):
toll on my body, and when Istart taking care of myself more
, the better I feel, the moreI'm able to do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Dude, that's so hard.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I couldn't relate to that anymore.
I'm struggling with that rightnow, so you're definitely
helping me to stop.
Well, good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
It's so hard though.
It's so hard, though, because,like society is in gratification
, you can just go get ahamburger from McDonald's and
just do all that crap, like Idon't know.
It's wild that you guys canhave that much willpower at such
a young age.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Well, it's crazy, like I got my allergy test back
and it was lettuce, you know,black pepper, beef, avocados,
asparagus, oranges, eggs, cowmilk, like so many things.
And I was so overwhelmed, likewhat am I supposed to do?
What am I supposed to eat?
But one day at a time I'm ableto figure it out, yeah that's
really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
That's crazy.
You know, what's funny isthere's a joke in there too,
because people are like, what?
You can't eat meat, why don'tyou just eat lettuce?
And you're like, well, I can'teat that 100 percent.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
That's super funny have you been adjusting good
what was that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
have you been adjusting good though yeah, um,
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
I guess I would say the hardest part is just
cravings.
You know, like I really justwant a protein style from
In-N-Out and it's like, well,you can't have that.
So guess what?
You're eating chicken today.
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, you can find stuff, though you can make all
kinds of different concoctions100%.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
yeah, I've noticed meal prepping helps a lot and
kind of just not having thosethings in the house um are
really helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I think we throw away like two entire trash bags of
stuff that I can't eat, so it'sjust not in the house and I
can't eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
You're probably so much healthier than all of us,
though it's insane, you know,like I live on coffee with how
busy I am and I feel like I witheating healthy and you getting
the right exercise and startingto take the supplements and
figure out what's going on withmy body and the medications and
stuff.
Like, wow, you know, I comehome and I'm ready to go for a

(01:24:25):
two and a half mile walk andit's like I still have homework
to do and to cook dinner and allthis stuff and it's like I can
still do that all yeah, stuffand it's like I could still do
that all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Yeah.
Do you ever sit down and thinkbecause we were actually talking
about this the other day toolike how much crap you can
actually get or how muchproductive stuff you can get in
what done in one day?

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
100%.
Yeah, it's like the more youprioritize your time, the better
it is, and I have found thathuge.
You know you have 24, so manyhours in a day.
It's just what you pick to doand what you choose to do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Yeah, it's wild.
So, all right, you tell usabout a normal day for you after
I say this.
So today I got up super early,right, I was in Poway, I went to
Oceanside and now I'm up herein Banning, so there was
probably five hours worth ofdriving around.
There was at least 15 racersthat I helped at the Legacy Race
today we had to make and createtwo Starlink kits for some

(01:25:27):
trophy trucks that are goingdown in Nora.
We had at least six phone callsfor meetings that were at least
half an hour 45 minutes long,and then I got up here and I was
like wow, I feel like.
I'm having some fun on a podcast, you know what I mean and you
get to a point where you're justlike dude.
It's so chill Like I got this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Yeah, it's crazy what you can fit into a day,
especially when you have a hugeto-do list.
It's like, wow, I really gotall that done.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
yeah what's a day in the life?

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
well, it changes, uh, most of the time.
But, uh, I usually wake up, getsome homework done, uh, get
ready for work which I work withspecial education students
every single day.
I'm gaining experience for mycareer and, um, go to work, come
home, cook dinner and usuallygo for a walk and then work on

(01:26:17):
some more homework.
Right now, as we're not racing,it's kind of a little bit more
laid back.
We have a little bit more timeto do things here and there.
But when we were racing youknow a lot last year, it was
like we were up here during theweek working on the car and
still had homework to do.
I was doing homework on the wayout to the races.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
So busy days, yeah busy days, for sure, even.
Yeah, being able to fit all ofthat in one day, that's more
than a lot of people could say,because some people I mean I can
definitely say I've been thisperson at a time, but I'll like
have a whole to-do list and abunch of things to do, and then
I get to the list and I get sooverwhelmed that I just end up

(01:26:57):
doing nothing.
So I have days like that, forsure.
But you're right, most of mylife is just go, go, go, go go
and it's super hard to stop andlike okay, man, have I ate.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Today have I drank water did.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
I check my blood sugars.
Did I do?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
any things I should have done so, dude, you got the
laser focus us females do theyusually?
Oh yeah, females do for surehave you talked to any of the
people that you, uh, I don'twant to say like motivate is
such an overused word, but thatyou try to help and you try.
Have you talked with them?
Uh, anytime, like thosefollow-ups with them?

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Yeah, so it's actually really cool.
I was doing this Lyme diseaseawareness type of like Zoom
calls with certain people that Iwould call in.
You know, try to educate them,or, you know, be there for them,
or you know, I tried this, youshould try that.
Or I recently had to stop doingthat just because it was taking
up so much of my time.
I recently had to stop doingthat just because it was taking
up so much of my time.

(01:27:54):
But it's really cool because alot of the kids that I spoke to
and motivated, I see, usuallydaily, and it just brings a
whole nother perspective, notjust being, like you know, a
teacher to them or somethinglike that.
It's more of like a personallevel, like, hey, I'm going
through this, what would you do?

(01:28:15):
And it's pretty awesome becauseit it makes me love my job.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
yeah, for sure well, not only that, but like you're
being real right, like thatrealness like makes it more of a
difference than you'll everknow, because you're not like
being a doctor and just givingthem facts, yeah yeah you're
broken.
This is wrong with you.
This is wrong with you.
You gotta do this to fix this.
You're just like dude.
How can I help?

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
right, right and, as of april, this is my 17th year
battling lyme disease, so youknow there's a ton of education
wow, that's super cool yeah, andI'm proud of you for sharing
your life experience becausesome of that

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
stuff is tough to talk about?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
yeah, and it definitely was, especially when
I was younger.
I didn't really, you know, tellpeople, because I just wanted
to be normal.
I just wanted to be the normalkid, the normal person.
Yeah, and I felt like everytime I saw somebody that I
haven't seen in a while, they'dbe like, oh, how are you doing,
how are you feeling?
It's like I don't want to talkabout that.
Yeah, so, becoming older andmore mature, um, it's huge to

(01:29:17):
spread awareness because Lymedisease is becoming more and
more populated and these peopleare going through this disease
without, you know, any type ofeducation.
I can't even tell you how manytimes I've been denied by a
doctor.
You're not sick.
What are you talking about?
And it's like what are youtalking about?
That's crazy.
I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
That's the whole thing I'm talking about and it's
like what are you talking about?
That's crazy.
I don't know exactly what youmean that's the whole thing I'm
talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Is they just have a problem listening?

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
yeah yeah, even like being able to be so personable
with someone too, especiallybringing awareness for the
people that can't, because a lotof people like to talk, but
some people can't talk aboutstuff like that or they they
don't know how to socialize withanother person.
So, having you, you know, alsogoing through experience that
they are too, and then beingable to bring awareness and they

(01:30:03):
can be like oh, it's.
Ok to talk about it, it is OKto feel this way or feel that
way, so that's really good,thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, that's a very good perspective too.
Yeah, for sure hey well so whathave you been doing the past?

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
like I don't know, because I feel like I haven't
talked to you in like a yearwell, uh, very busy, like I said
, uh, going to college andtrying to figure all that out,
navigate that, doing that online.
Um, I did have to change mymajor just because I was doing
it in early child developmentand I was like halfway through

(01:30:40):
and then they told me that youknow, your major is no longer
online, you have to come in andI work full time so I can't come
in.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Oh, my gosh we're just talking about this.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
Yeah.
So, I think right now I'm goingto finish my degree in business
and marketing and then, whileI'm teaching, I would like to
work in the industry within themarketing and business group as
long with racing.
I recently got to drive a spectrophy truck.

(01:31:12):
That's so cool.
I don't think I've ever smiledso big in my entire life.
It was so crazy, like I.
I can't wait to get back inthat driver's seat because I
feel like I was just living adream and I wasn't able to focus

(01:31:32):
so much on like what exactlythe truck felt like more like oh
my gosh, this is so awesome.
Oh my gosh, I'm in the truck,yeah yeah, so um that was really
awesome and just kind ofworking on treatment, getting
myself healthy, figuring outwhat our next plans are, and, uh
, still, uh, my boyfriend Brianco-drives in a trophy truck, so

(01:31:56):
we're still at every race, stillbusy, as ever.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Look at the picture in the background.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
I like it.
I've been watching, yeah that'ssuper cool, it looks like you
got a bunch of things in theworks.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
So I'm super, super glad for you, super happy, and I
cannot wait to see what elseyou got.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah, one of the things that I want to say before
we let Brooke go is like one ofthe kids just asked like how do
I get into racing?
Right?
Yeah, well, the way that youget into racing is you think
about it from a life perspective, right?
Like Brooke.
Like Brooke is winning at life.
She's been dealt some hardcards, right, but she doesn't
give up, she just keeps going,she keeps pushing forward and
she has the mentality of justplaying willpower, like there's

(01:32:38):
nothing that can stop her.
And those traits in some casesare very, very hard to learn,
because you get put on your backa lot of times, right, but when
you come out, you're that muchstronger of a person.
So you should be very proud ofyourself and you should keep
going and helping people, man,because you're doing a fantastic
job you really are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Thank you guys.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Hey, what are you going to do next where we can
see you?
Yeah and hang out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
I don't know.
Hopefully we'll be driving atrophy truck next time I see you
guys, I would love to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
That's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yeah, it's huge and it was really awesome.
Uh, I think next next thing upon the calendar is, uh, cowboys
bmf kids camp.
Uh, I'll be going back up thereagain and, uh, doing the kids
camp with dustin jones andcowboy and everybody else, um,
and then just doing what I'mdoing, picking away at each
thing I want to accomplish.

(01:33:34):
Yeah, that's super cool.
That's the way to go about it,for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Dude awesome.
Once I eat the elephant onebite at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
You bring that up every podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
It's true, though, I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
No, I'm obsessed too 100%.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Yeah, well, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
It benefits me to 1000%, but really hope you have
a good rest of your day.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Thank you, guys, for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
You put a bigger smile on our faces, thanks, Bye
guys, bye Do you and you know.
What's crazy about, like a lotof the conversations that we had
today, was that there's so manythings that are mingled
together with all thesefantastic people right, they get
taught certain things aboutfamily.
They get taught certain thingsabout life and goals.
I don't know To me when I hearthat every single day we go out

(01:34:25):
and we get bummed on lifebecause we see so many crappy
experiences or crappy people.
Right, this gives you a lot ofhope, hearing all these awesome
individuals.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
No for sure.
Being able to just see thatracing isn't just.
You know, you get in the carand you drive and you go through
a hard race.
It's everything that has to gowith it, and like everything it
teaches you too, like there'ssome things that I'm going to
take from racing that I'llprobably more than I'll take
from school.
Yeah, I love school, butdefinitely Life lessons.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yes for sure, Dude.
Look at that purple car.
Oh, no wait, that's a red.
That's Corbin.
That's Corbin, that is Corbin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Corbin does some sweet pictures.
Well, I got one more questionfor you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
So this is the seventh episode of the Lost
Corner.
Give us some feedback.

Speaker 5 (01:35:14):
I mean, we've been doing this for a little bit now
and you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
We hit like a little milestone where it's like
getting serious now.
I mean, I feel like it's beengetting serious, but I'd love to
hear some feedback on how I'mdoing, how I need to, you know,
be better and excel myself, andwho I can bring on to the show
that you guys would love tolisten to.
So I'd really love to hear allthat.
My my instagram is bellaprashar.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Look me up say hi, you can always slide into the
dirt life show as well.
Um, and send us dm so that youcan get her a little bit of
feedback.
That would actually be reallycool.
We just talked about it all daytoday about how much people
listen and how much people grow,and she's inviting you guys to
give her some feedback so sureI'd love to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Listen, listening, right, yep, thank you guys for
coming on and we'll see you forepisode eight.
Maybe Deuces?

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show.
See you next week.
We'll be right back.

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