Vegas to Reno Recap with Ryan Arciero, Nic Whetstone, and more

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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to the Dirt Life Show with your host, George
Hamill.
Alright guys, welcome toepisode 164 of the Dirt Life
Show.
We have a Vegas Torino recapfor you guys today.
Man, we're going to talk aboutall kinds of fun stuff.
I'm your host, Georgie Hamill.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
And I'm your co-host.
Bella Bouchard, let's go, bella.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And Bella actually raced Vegas Torino, so it's
going to be pretty cool.
Bella's going to be able togive us some insight as to how
the track was and to how theracing was even the pace of the
race.
A lot of cool stuff happenedthis weekend.
One of the first things is thatwe just messed up, but we're
going to announce it again isthe Maxxis Final 48.
So it was the last pit 13 tothe finish line fastest times in

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eight classes.
Just get straight cash.
You didn't have to be a Maxisdriver or Maxis athlete to be
able to win that cash.
Super cool and I will say thiswholeheartedly.
I feel like companies shouldengage in stuff like this and
promote stuff like this a lotmore often, because it shows how
much these companies care aboutoff-road.
So we're going to go ahead andannounce those guys, if you guys

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heard it when we were talkingbefore.
Thank you guys very much forlistening, but right now we are
going to give you all thewinners.
So the first winner in thetrophy truck class for the final
48 was none other than our boy,ryan Arciero.
Yeah, buddy, good job, ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yep.
And then let's see here who wasin the 6100 class.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Bella 6100 class final 48 winner was Jason
Coleman.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
All right, Jason Coleman and Brady Mellon.
Those guys were on it In 4400,it was Raul Gomez, so he must
have been shredding.
Who was the Open A?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Open A class was William Fry.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
And Open E class for shredding.
Uh, who's the open?
A open a class was william fryand uh, open e class.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Uh, for the max's final 48 was matthew grant so go
get your cash matthew, allright open utv class final 48
winner was dallas gonzalez youknow that guy yes, I do, yeah,
so dallas gonzalez.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm actually really proud of him for winning this
because, uh, just for him tocompete and his injuries in the
past and to overcome those andwin that he must have been just
ripping the UTV.
Na was GFI Racing and MaxxisAthlete Zach Kisman, so that was
super cool to see.
And then the final UTV ProTurbo.

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Who you got, bill?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
One of my favorites, Cody Miller.
Yeah, Cody.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
All right.
So we got a couple of Maxxisathletes in there Really cool.
So congratulations to everybodythat won the cash for the
Maxxis Final 48.
They're going to post that ontheir social media.
We'll share it and then youguys can go collect your guys'
prizes.
Man, thank you very much toMaxxis for doing that Super.
Thank you very much to Maxxisfor doing that Super cool, all
right.
So on today's show we haveawesome guests that we're going

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to interview.
We just mentioned his name forwinning the Maxxis Final 48,
ryan Arciero.
So Ryan Arciero and TravisMoores are going to come on and
talk to us a little bit abouttheir race, the pressure that
they had from Nick Whetstone andgiving him pressure too, nick.
Whetstone is going to be oursecond guest that we have.
Uh, come on, uh, in his geysertruck man, he was just ripping
consistent, consistent,consistent, driving all day uh.

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Who's our third guest?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
our third guest is josh roe.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
He's the utv overall winner for vegas torino yeah, he
must have been shredding,because those like top three
utvs oh my, they were just.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Constant battle all day.
Honestly top five.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
It was just so close all day.
Second place UTV was Max Eddy.
Max Eddy and Austin Eddy aregoing to join us.
It's going to be cool to talkwith them.
And then we got a specialBella's Corner segment towards
the end.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
One of your friends, bella.
Her name is Samantha Road.
She works for EvolutionPowersports.
She came out and co-drove,actually, for one of the podium
winners.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
So yeah, jacob's a cone, so it was cool to see it's
like a big family effort butit's also really professional
and they do a lot of productdevelopment and testing and
stuff there too.
So, um, we're gonna get tolearn a little bit more about
samantha and what she does too,so I'm really excited about that
um, a couple things that we'regoing to talk about as far as,
like, through the show.
We're going to talk a little bitabout technology and racing.
I think it's going to be a coollittle subject.

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We're going to talk about theUTV battle and I want to mention
to everybody, before we startthe show, that tomorrow we are
going to be at One NineIndustries, with Ryan Arciero
actually, and we're going to doa sponsorship summit and what
that actually means is like, ifyou guys are interested in
understanding how to getsponsors, how to keep sponsors,
how to negotiate with them, howto get free product or money or

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whatever it is to get yourprogram to the next level, our
buddy, alex Stryler, puts onsponsorship summits and it's
sponsorshipsummitcom and I'mgoing to be one of the guests
talking about technology andracing.
And I'm going to be one of theguests talking about technology
and racing, but the value in itis not necessarily just me.
It's talking about social media, it's talking about promotional
stuff.

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He does a very, very good job attelling everybody how to retain
sponsors and to get sponsors.
So if you guys are interestedin that, please visit
sponsorshipsummitscom and gosign up.
And if you guys do want to code, maybe a secret code.
I might be able to help you outtoo.
So, all right, let's get ourfirst guest on Ryan Arciero and
let's see if.
Yeah, travis.
Morris is also thank you guysvery much for letting us know

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about the audio issues.
Really appreciate you guys.
Thank guys, getting us alldialed in Alright.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Ryan Arciero, Travis Morris.
What's up, boys?

Speaker 8 (05:33):
How we doing, Bella George, how we doing.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Hi Travis what's up?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Doing very good, but probably not as good as you guys
.
Are you guys?

Speaker 8 (05:42):
still on the high horse man Four feet buddy four
feet I know, can you believethat?
Four in a row?
It's insane.
Both Travis and I are extremelyblessed.
Obviously, we couldn't do this,and we couldn't even dream of
doing this without our teamowner, kyle Washington.
Without him the wheels don't goround and round.
So a big shout-out.
Give a big thank you to KyleWashington for allowing us to
take his truck and go run 555miles through the Nevada desert.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
How did?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
that truck do Travis.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Phenomenal the 19 Industries truck is the best
truck out there and that JoeGibbs engine is so fast.
So I mean we hit 146.
I think we talked about itbefore the race.
I think that was my predictionand we actually hit it.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Dude, that's insane.
Well, let me ask you this, likeboth of you guys, ryan, a few
years ago that was unheard of todo 146 miles an hour.
You're a speed demon byyourself, but how does it feel
to go 146 in a trophy truck?

Speaker 8 (06:38):
it.
It's incredible.
I mean the fastest I've gone isin this truck and and it was in
Lucerne testing, and we did 159miles an hour across Doggy Dry
Lake and I tell you what that isthe fastest I've gone in a
trophy truck or in a deserttruck or in the desert period
and I mean at that speed you'remaking very small inputs.

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You can't make any big inputsin that steering wheel because
the truck's going to reallyreact to it.
So you've got to be real gentleand kind of let the truck do
what it wants to do.
Especially at those speeds,dude, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Could you imagine that, Travis?
How does it feel on your headwhen that much pressure is going
against it in the open?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
cockpit.
Well, sometimes you've got tohold your helmet straight so I
can still read the GPS Once weget about 120 and keep pushing
that limit, then it's all focus,make sure we don't miss a turn
or ditch or something that canscrew us up with those speeds.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, let's talk about some of that, because the
speed was one of the things thatI wanted to talk about at the
Vegas Arena race this year andthe average speed was very high
and pushing those limits waslike I don't want to say it was
mandatory, but it almost wasbecause you guys had established
the pace with Nick Westo and itwas so fast that it wasn't like

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you couldn't make any mistakes,you couldn't mess up and you
had to keep the pressure on theentire time.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Well, we sure did.
Our goal, what Travis and I'splan was was, you know, take the
start and then see if we can'tbridge the gap to Nick and get
to the tail end of his desk andat least at least have them on
time and keep the pressure onhim.
And and that's exactly what wedid within the first five miles
we were at the tail end of hisdesk and and we really didn't
have to push super hard to getthere the truck was working

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really really good We've beenworking a lot with Fox on the
live valve and the truck washandling really really good.
So we were able to bridge thatgap pretty quick and we just
stayed there.
And my plan was, with Travis,was just keep the pressure on
Nick and wait for him to make amistake and see if we can push
him into mistake.
And what I got to say is myhat's off to Nick because he did

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exactly what he was supposed todo.
It didn't really rattle him andit took us three quarters of
the race for us to finally gethim to make a mistake.
And that's the way we cancapitalize on it.
And in the process, no, we gottwo flats as well, two unlucky
flats that uh, um, that we got,uh uh, both at separate times.
And, uh, the first time we gotit he was able to pull away from

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us and we bridged the gap rightback again and I got him to his
desk.
And then the second time we gotit, and then, just not too long
after that, he got one.
But we were we weren't in theposition at that point to take
advantage of his flat, so, butwe were able to get back to his
rear bumper again within 15seconds.
And then, boom he.
He had a slow leaker and had topull into rawhide.
Uh, the third to last pit andwe were able to capitalize on it
dude, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Does that change the way that you, uh your mentality
travis when you have to get outof the truck and and change
those flats because it's like,all right, we're going, we're
going, we're going.
Oh, pace has stopped for alittle bit, like, are you just
under so much pressure?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
uh, yeah, I think I mean there is a lot of pressure,
but I think more of it's put on.
I put it on myself.
You know, I don't want to bethe guy that that screws up for
the race or we don't win becauseof something I do.
So it's just about being smoothand, you know, do the fastest I
can with being smooth and notrisk making a mistake.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Dude.
Speaking of speed Ryan, we, Ithink, clocked one of your pit
stops.
I think it was pit eight, maybe27 seconds.

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Isn't that awesome.
It's the guys at One NineIndustries man.
It's our team here.
This truly is, and I can't sayit enough.
Yeah, I'm in the driver's seat.
I'm the one that's turning thewheel Without Travis to my right
side.
The navigator is a massive partof what we do and how we go win
, but just as important is yourcrew.
If we don't have the right crewbehind us, if we don't have the

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pit stops down pat, we don'thave a truck that leaves the
race shop that's ready to win,all this is for nothing dude,
it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Can you imagine being and like changing those truck
tires and all that stuff thatfast though?

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think a utv tire is heavy.
I can't imagine a trophy truck,I know.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
And then to your point too, like you know, travis
did such a phenomenal job onthose tire changes.
I mean it's as hard as you cango, as fast as you can go,
trying to fling those 40-inchtires on and off, and I mean he
did such a great job.
But every second counts.
So you know, Travis is puttingpressure on himself.
It matters.
So if you're slow, it mattersand it could be the outcome of

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the race.
You're right.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
And Travisvis you guys, when nick came into, the
pits and when you guys made thein air quotes the pass, you guys
passed him through there.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
If you were another second behind, like what ryan
was saying, travis you may havenot made that pass, oh for sure,
because it probably took themin the pit, you know, a good 30,
45 seconds to get that tirechange.
So had I, had I been slower orwe had any other issues we would
have, we would have been hey.
So let me ask you this realquick Travis, because we just
had a.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Navigator show and I'd like to give some
information to the younger crowd, some of Bella's crowd and
stuff like that.
If you could give any tips andstuff to any of the co-drivers
that are out there, maybe likepatience, take deep breaths, do
stretching, keep your mind right.
What would you tell all thesepeople to make their co-drivers

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better?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think the biggest thing is just staying relaxed.
If you don't stay relaxed thenyou're going to get exhausted
and you know you get tiredanyways.
It's hot, but it's just adifferent focus.
You know the driver isphysically and mentally, you
know, being worn out and sittingin the right seat it's more
mental, just making sure thatyou're reading those notes.
And so I always tell myselfjust relax, relax, take a breath

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.
And sometimes it works,sometimes it doesn't, but you've
got to trust your driver too.
So you know, if you don't trustyour driver then you probably
shouldn't be in that seat.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
How was that dynamic working between you guys, ryan,
when you guys were um chasingand then being they did the
chase because you guys have alot of mental games that you had
to play in your head.
You can't push too hard, youcan't break the truck, but you
still have to apply pressure toknit no, a hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (12:37):
I said we know travis and I had a plan going into it.
We talked, we talked through it.
You know we're and and uh, andit's travis's job too to make
sure that we're staying on onthat plant, because it's easy as
a driver to get rattled.
That's uh, it's easy to get, uh, to have to be impatient and
and want to work through thatdust and get around that guy and
but it's a 555 mile race.
So you, it's, you physicallyhave to tell yourself as a

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driver, you have to keepreminding yourself patience,
patience, patience, wait for it,wait for it, wait for it.
Sometimes that wait for itdoesn't.
It takes hours upon hours, likeit did on friday, to finally
capitalize it, but we ended upcapitalizing on it.
So you just got to be, you haveto be in a position where you
can capitalize on it.
And it is like this race isunlike baja.
Like baja, you know we'repre-running.

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We can pre-run a week to twoweeks before the race.
So we know every other linethan the race course.
This one we don't.
So we can't capitalize on a, ona line that's to the left or
the line that's to the right.
So you have to.
So the risk versus reward uh isway too high to try to charge
through that dust and you guyssaw the live stream of the dust
and how bad the dust was, uh, soit was very different.
Like 15 seconds was probablythe closest we can get to Nick

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off his back bumper withouttaking major chances and it's
just not worth it in the race.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, we were seeing that same thing too, bella was
out there racing, so she didn'tget to watch the live stream,
but we were also talking aboutthat.
And Bella, how is it drivingthrough the dust like at Vegas
Arena?
And Ryan was in that 15-secondgap for half the race.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean it was insane.
Could you have done that?
Oh yeah, we kind of we just hada little bit going through like
the soap beds and stuff and youknow, being behind someone's
tail, but kind of just havingfull faith in your co-dog, like,
okay, you're guiding me rightnow I don't know where I'm going
, I can't see, like you know,there's power poles next to us
and so it's cool to see that youguys have that much trust in
each other, like being able tonavigate each other through this

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550 mile race yeah, yeah, andto your point, bella.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
I mean that's the same thing I would tell Travis
when we were getting thick of it.
I'm like, just tell me where,tell me where we're going, tell
me where we're going and, andobviously you're trying to
maintain a pace, but there'ssome of the roads that you're
you're on a power line road andand uh, and the risk is very
high if I start charging throughthat dust.
So you know, you kind of backit down a little bit and uh, and
you know you'll.
You'll probably see me in thelive stream where I'm kind of
tapping the brakes.

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You see the front of the truckdive when I get into the dust,
just because I'm unsure what'shappening how was it, uh, doing
like the, the strategy, right,because you take off and you're
in second place.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You kind of have a game plan and then you know
you're going to be sitting indust.
Dust gets worse, dust getsbetter.
You make up time, you lose sometime.
Like to me as a, as anex-professional driver like it's
frustrating, like I needsomebody else to manage those
those things for me, ryan.
So you guys must have a lot ofdifferent strategies and the
different uh therapeuticconversations in the cab.

Speaker 8 (15:27):
Well, I said it goes back to George.
It's having patience.
You know, when I was a youngerdriver, you know.
I didn't have a lot of that andit does make the difference
between winning and losing andjust having that patience.
And I, this race, I had toexercise that patience for, you
know, for six hours and uh, andjust knowing that, even though

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I'm sitting in mixed dust, Ihave them on time.
So I, as long as I can staythere, I have them on time.
I have them anywhere from, youknow, from 45 seconds to 10
seconds on time, as long as Ican stay there.
So if I make a mistake and Ihit something or I take a corner
off, well, I'm out of the game.
As long as I can stay in hisbest, I'm in the game and I'm
still leading.
The burden falls upon him atthat point not to make any

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mistakes.
So I think there's morepressure on him.
And I talked to him at thefinish line and told him what a
great job he did and didn'trattle him, and he kept on
telling me he goes.
Man, I was hoping you weregoing to make a mistake and it
just took longer for it tohappen.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's some good sportsmanship, though being able
to go at the end of the finishline, and be, like real.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
But, travis, like there's nothing that you can do
except for shake their hand,because it was like a fight the
whole day.
I mean, the pressure was onboth sides.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Oh for sure, and that's what makes it fun.
You know, we had the same thinglast year and and, uh, you
always talk after the race andit's just a good time.
You tell, tell each other howit was changing tire or what
missed this corner or did thisor that, and then, uh, you end
up, you know, talking about itall day and and having a good
conversation, and it's just alot of fun yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
And then were you guys able to spend any time with
your families and stuffafterwards, because Reno is such
a?

Speaker 8 (17:03):
beautiful spot.
You know it's funny because upuntil last year, every year we
would spend three or four daysup at Tahoe with the family and
enjoy, but my kids startedschool today, so it's like we
had to get back.
My wife, michelle, had alreadyleft Vegas and got back on
Friday, so we turned aroundSaturday morning and our
celebration was telling storiesall the way back with my dad and

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my little son, ryan.
So that was.
You know.
That in itself is worth it Tohave my dad there, who's a Hall
of Famer, and to have my son,who I love to bring up through
the ranks of Offroad Racing, bea part of it.
And then Travis you know mybest friend there right
alongside me.
You know, travis and I haveknown each other since we were
five years old, and so we've hada long relationship together,
and it makes a big differencewhen we're in the truck, because
I can chew his ass out and hecan chew mine out.

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We still love each other.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
No, that's exactly what off-road is all about.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, it is pretty sweet.
It looks like we might havelost Travis Ryan.
He's driving home all the wayto Colorado and he was telling
me before the show that he hadsix or eight hours left.
So all right, travis.
We'll see you later.
Buddy, thank you very much forcoming on.
I was going to joke with him.
I wish that he was on Ryan, butduring the live stream, I don't
even know how many commentssaying please wipe the GoPro.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Wipe the GoPro, you know what?
And I heard that on the radio.
One of the fans was like wipethe GoPro.
So it's like I had it in myhead, for whatever reason.
Obviously, I got a lot of otherthings to worry about when I'm
in the truck, but every 20minutes to 30 minutes, if we
were in the thick of the dust,I'd tell Travis wipe the camera,
wipe the camera.
George is going to be pissed atme at the end of this deal if

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we didn't wipe the damn so wemade fun of uh, you guys in the
production chat that we hadgoing on and, uh, travis started
doing it really good at thehalfway point.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
So I go.
All right, travis doing a realgood job.
We'll give him a beer at thefinish line.
They go, no, no, no give himabsolutely.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
But I, I I mean george honestly.
And bella, how cool is it to beable to ride shotgun in that
truck with Livestream for almostnine hours and be able to see
everything I was seeing, exceptfor, yes, you saw more because
you got to see out behind.
I couldn't see that.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It was so cool, brian .
I don't know how many peoplejust commented in and just were,
so I don't know what you wantto say, like in awe or surprised
or happy, like all of thesedifferent emotions from all
these people because they get toride along with you Like it was
just so cool.
And then what happens is isthose little tiny like pieces of
excitement all of a suddenbecome how their strategy would

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be if they were in there withyou and what they would be doing
and how they would manage it,and it's just all.
The interaction makes it socool to live that off-road life
with you guys.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
Oh, a hundred percent .
I mean I just took my kids toschool for the first day today
and I had so many parents comeup to me saying, hey, we, we, we
watched you in live stream andthat they'd never seen an
off-road race before.
I mean those are the peoplethat we need in our sport and to
be able to give them the toolto be able to do that.
I mean, if nobody has everdealt with George and your
product, I mean they need to geton board with you, because this

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whole thing and Elon Musk'sStarlink has physically changed
our sport for the better.
Man, I can't.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I appreciate that more than you know and I can't
wait to actually see when it'sin everybody's hands, right,
because now we're going to havebuilt by the racers for the
racers and all the racerssharing all this stuff.
It's just going to be so cool,man, and thank you very much for
the kudos.
But I'll say this I'll give youa stat Ryan, we had just at 90
extra cameras out there.
90.
Wow, 90.

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That's how many racers aresupporting us and trying to get
the help out.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
That is phenomenal.
Now we need another 900 more.
Then we're going to cover thissport from every angle possible
and it will be mainstream.
That's what I'm excited about.
That's what keeps me going isto be able to bring what I think
is cool, what I've been livingmy life for, for the last 31
years of racing in this sportI've been around it my whole

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life but to be able to bringthis to the masses and share my
passion for what we do, becausewe literally have one of the
coolest forms of motorsports andI've been around them all
coolest forms of motorsports onthe planet and now we're
bringing it to them live dude

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I agree 100.
Hey, speaking of bringing it topeople live, um, you and I are
going to join each othertomorrow for a sponsorship
summit.
Uh, maybe tell everybody whatthey can expect if they want to
come join us and hang out withyou.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
I'm super excited.
Obviously, we're going to do itfrom One9 Industries tomorrow,
starting at 2 pm.
I encourage those who aretrying to figure out how to get
involved on the sponsorship side, not only trying to obtain
sponsors, but what do I need todo to activate the sponsorship?
What do I need to do to keepthem?
How do I need to do to activatethe sponsorship?
What do I need to do to keepthem?
I don't, I don't.
I need to think outside the boxbecause you know the the, the

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days of putting a sticker on theside of the car and uh and
going racing are are long, long,long, long gone.
And uh, we gotta be creative.
And the biggest thing we havein front of us is social media
which, uh, for a lot of us, in alot of different aspects of
social media, it's free, um, soyou need to use it to to its max
and uh, and I tell you whatit's going to be.
For I said, for those who aretrying to figure this out, I

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highly highly recommend jumpingon and uh and being involved in
it and uh, if they need if theyneed to uh use the code one
n-i-n-e and it'll give you 20off.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
There you go all right, thanks, ryan.
Hey and dude, I can't say youto you enough, man.
I know how hard it is, I knowdifficult it is, but you got
four of these bad boys, man Four.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
I'm blessed.
I mean, it's a lot of hard workon everybody's part, not just
mine, but to be able to go dothat, to do four in a row, to do
it once, is a feat in itself,because this is a tough race.
To be able to do it four timesin a row, you know where my mind
goes.
Now is number five.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Let's go, baby All right homie.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
And again, congratulations, dude, and thank
you very much, Travis, forjoining us as well.

Speaker 8 (22:54):
Val and George.
Thank you, guys, I appreciateit.
Thanks for having me on board.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
Later buddy.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Take care.
All right, so let's get NickWhetstone on here.
We're going to have to invitehim, so let me go ahead and
search for him.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Imagine knowing your co-dog, since you were five
years old.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Dude, that's cool right.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I mean, just think about the synergy, though.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
right yeah, how comfortable they are with each
other.
Like that's so rad.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's pretty like well and also how much crap they can
talk with each other.
All right, so our next guest,Nick Weston, long-time trophy
track driver and second place atVegas Arena.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Man.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Nick, you were leading the race for just over
what was it?
Half of a race.
That was a lot of crap.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Yeah, it was a long time Bittersweet, I guess
Disappointing, but you know, allin all, I think, a decent
result for you know the timewe've been in the trophy truck
and we're making progress.
You know we've got thesequalifying runs pretty dialed
now and now I'm just trying tofigure out, you know, when to
push and how to race smart.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Well, give us a little bit of a background on
what you're saying then.
Oh, there's a lot of guys I'llput it in two different paths
here.
There's guys that can all of asudden, sprint just straight
from the go.
They're fast.
And there's guys that it takesa little bit of time to warm up.
Which one of those guys are you.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Well, I think I mean I can sprint and I think you
know I qualified first at me andqualified first here at Vegas
Arena by, you know, a reasonablemargin, I think me was like
eight seconds and here was fiveseconds, and so there's no
question about the sprinting.
It's just really trying to findthe happy medium, I think.

(24:41):
And so you know I've gone outin the race and blazed away and,
you know, blasted rocks and gotflats and broke the truck and
we've done all that andexperienced all that.
Now it's really trying to justreel it back in and, you know,
get to the finish line.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I think you showed a lot of consistency, though, at
this race.
I mean, even though there mayhave been a couple seconds there
when Ryan actually did get pastyou, all that time, just in
that little spot, that in themiddle, all that time you were
consistent.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
You're very, very consistent and very fast, that
entire time yeah, I think thatthe um, the plan for this race
was just to be like ultradisciplined.
So really what we tried to dowas go pretty conservative and
so we weren't sprinting by anymeans, we were really probably
only running, you know, 65,maybe 70 percent pace wise.

(25:33):
And um, you know, I knew thatthat ryan was was going to be in
thick dust back there, and sothe plan was kind of to sit him
in the dust line and wait forhim to make the mistake.
And unfortunately we didn't,you know, quite capitalize on
that.
We sort of worked.
He had a couple of flats, butthen, you know, we got a mystery
flat and had a slow leaker.

(25:54):
And then, you know, I didn'tre-rack it when we went through
one of the pits and so, you know, we had nothing on the rack and
so at that point it like, well,I gotta go 50 miles through the
rocks, pretty conservatively.
So we just took it easy and,and you know, at that point
there's no point pushing, you'regonna get to the finish line to

(26:16):
get a result.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
So yeah, but you did have the right strategy, though
we were actually talking aboutit on on the live streams and
stuff like that and actually thebest in desert live stream,
saying it as well, and I didn'tknow that Nick was only going
about 65%, though Bella, likethat takes a lot of discipline
oh yeah, and a lot of patiencetoo is that a frustrating thing,

(26:39):
man.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
It's like you.
Just you've got this beast inyour in your hand.
You want to go fast, but at thesame time it's it's a long race
, and so you know, um ryan, yeah, he's done a lot of this stuff
and and hats off to him, it's acredit, you know, to sit back
there in the dust like that, notpush through the dust and make
a mistake.
That's um, you know.
That's why he's won it so manytimes and and he's had so much

(27:02):
success in in in racing off-roadas he played it smart.
So, um, yeah, we tried to playit smart and just didn't quite
work.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
But I guess that's kind of how how off-road goes
well, yes to no, though I thinklike just listening to you right
now, because I didn't know thisstuff before the race it feels
like you learned a lot just bythis one race yeah, I learned a
lot.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm that man.
I mean, yeah, that's my secondtime racing vegas, torino.
We've we've only been in trophytrucks.
This is our second year racing,so, um, you know period.
So, um, you know, we're, we'rereally overall, we're still
green as a team and I'm stillgreen as a driver and so, like I

(27:48):
said, we're making slow steps.
It's like it's one of thosethings where, yeah, you can get
in a truck and you can drivethat thing pretty good, but once
you get to a certain level,then it starts to come down to
the one percenters and now it's.
You know, it's just those tinylittle adjustments that we've
got to keep making to get better, I think, and, um, we seem to

(28:09):
be doing that.
You know, we built this trucklast year and had a couple
teething issues with it, but youknow, um, the whole geyser team
and cheeseburger and andwhatnot, they've really, um, you
know, they've got this thingdialed in pretty good now and
the truck's working well, makesa ton of power.
You know, connor and I ConnorJackson, who's my co-driver we

(28:34):
kind of, you know, we had tomesh a little bit as well and it
took a little bit of time tokind of get to know, like the
system that we're using and howwe're using our notes and how
he's reading out notes and how Ireact to them, and you know,
like, like I say, you can getgood at it um quick, but to to

(28:55):
really master it it takes allthose one percent.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
So yeah, it really does.
And, like you said, um, beinggreen at it only for a couple
years now, you guys actuallyreally are making pretty big
strides.
How much does it help to have ateam like the Geyser Brothers
with you, because you've gotsuch a I don't even know what
you want to call it, just awealth of knowledge behind you.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Yeah, I mean, those guys are the lords of off-road.
I guess they really have gotall the experience.
They've been around a long longtime road.
I guess they that they reallyhave got all the experience.
They've been around a long,long time.
Um, and you know, frankly, youknow rick and jeff and their
team, they're, they're wizardsin off-road.
You know that um, you can seewhen you're mentioning stuff to

(29:37):
them, you can what.
You can see their brain tickingover trying to figure out.
You know what's going on.
And they've just been around somany fast guys.
They've built so many trucks.
They've had tons of success,they've raced themselves and so
they, they really know, um, andyou know, I think it, you know
it shows that putting a driverto a good driver that's been

(29:59):
racing trucks for two years andin one of their trucks and been
able to go out and qualify, youknow, with these times and and
frankly, you know, run a racelike we did, I think that it
shows that the trucks are umtrucks, that they build a um, a
top of the line.
Well, frankly, I think, just torebut on, on, uh, just to run

(30:20):
off a little bit, I still thinkguys is the number one two drive
truck in the market.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So there you go.
Hey, that's what, that's whatcreates growth.
Right, it's microsoft and apple, it's chevy and ford like you
gotta have that competition tocreate that and elevate the
sport, and the best thing aboutit is is like you can put a
driver like our sierra oryourself they're fantastic
drivers uh, in a lot ofdifferent vehicles, and you guys
can still get the job done.
But you guys have chosen thepath that you have and you guys

(30:46):
are happy with that path.
And that makes it so cool to seefrom an outsider's perspective,
from Bella's perspective, frommy perspective, because now we
can choose who we want to win,we can root for our favorite
driver, we can have our favoriteteams.
Like it is so awesome to beable to see that man and now,
having all the competition soclose, it's just fantastic.
Like I I didn't even know whoto root for on friday.

(31:09):
Dude, like I was so pumped tosee you out front.
I was so pumped to see ryanchasing you.
I was so pumped to see youchasing ryan.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
It was badass yeah, it was fun.
Actually, I gotta say like thatwas well, it's almost.
I felt like we're almostplaying a little game with each
other, like I'd be a minute outand then I'd come to the next
pit and he's 20 seconds and thenext pit was 40 seconds.
It was fun.
The course was prettyinteresting as well.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
I've got to say.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
That was like we're in all these virgin tracks and
then down into a wash thatliterally had no tracks in it.
The motorcycle went throughbefore us, obviously, but
they're weaving in and out ofthe bushes.
And so at one point I said toconnor I'm like dude, are we
even on the course, like so, andwe're, you know, we're kind of
pushing as well, we're doing 50,60 mile an hour through these

(31:57):
washes and I'm like shit, Idon't know where we're going,
but it looked like we're oncourse yeah, so you did like the
course then.
Yeah, I did.
Hats off to the guys.
I think the course was awesome,we had a great time, yeah, and
you know, it kind of adds alevel of you know complexity and
that technical thing where it'slike you kind of you know I saw

(32:22):
Brian mentioned it before aswell but you can't go out and
pre-run this stuff, so you'rereally following a map.
It's purely you know off-road,trying to read the terrain and
get through all that stuff.
That makes it interesting.
Well, it changes the wholedynamic.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, and speaking of dynamics, I wanted to ask
like because I ask a lot ofpeople this and Bella likes this
question too is what kind ofstuff do you guys do for
nutrition and for hydration andstuff inside the truck?
Because you're in the truck fora long time and as many people
that would think, oh, drivingthe truck is easy, it's not the
amount of calories that you guysburned in that, let's just say,

(32:55):
eight hours of racing.
That would put most people onthe ground yeah, man, it's tough
.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
I gotta say hauling the mail for nine hours is one
of the toughest things I've done.
Physically, yeah, but likementally as well.
You know, I think I try tothink of myself as reasonably
mentally stable, but you're,like, every like 10 miles you've
got to reassure yourself andtry and, you know, recheck up on

(33:21):
yourself to make sure that youdial.
But in our truck we have afluid logic system and and I
love it, I use it.
You know I get cotton mouth thewhole time and so I'm just
continually pressing the button,squirt water in my mouth and,
um, this race, for the firsttime I actually had an iv.
So, um, I forget the name ofher company, but the lady that

(33:42):
was set up at Contingency.
There we went and got an IV andit helped.
It helped, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I think it's called Finish Line.
Yeah, Finish Line IV, that's it.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
Yeah, finish Line IV.
So that was awesome, and so Iguess the way that she explained
it to you is it fills up yourcells with the fluid and then
then you know, as your bodyneeds it, it kind of deflates
and keeps you yeah, keeps you um, hydrated and it worked it.
It really did.
After the mint man, I couldhardly put food in my mouth.

(34:16):
My lips were so dry.
My whole body was just like Iwas like a dried apricot, so it
was.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy that the, that hydration
and what you put in your bodymakes that much of a difference.
And I only say this becausethere's so many people that
think off run might be easy.
Right when you get to the toplevel of any sport.
Every little detail, like yousaid, counts, and that's one of
the main details is keeping yourmain brain focused and keeping
your body in check, and it'svery difficult to do that for
eight hours when you havenothing yeah, yeah, 100 level of

(34:45):
concentration, especially whenyou're going quick like those.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Uh, um, that course has got a lot of areas that
you're going super fast and it'slike man, you gotta try and get
your your eyes to keep focusingon what's in front of you.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy, uh, could, could you
imagine going that fast, fellafor that long I was wondering
actually about the finish lineIVs.
I was going to get one beforemy race, but I've never done
something like that before.
So you know, going into a hugerace like that, I didn't want to
try something new out of mycomfort zone.
But was that a big?
Did it make a big differencefor you?
You know, performance-wise.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Yeah, it really did.
You know, I get dehydratedreally really easy and you know,
frankly, I've got a fluid logicsystem in the truck and it was
gone by about mile.
It was empty by like mile 350.
So you know, we had Pedialhours in 100 degree heat in a
trophy truck, swinging off thesteering wheel.

(35:46):
It's pretty tough and that, umthe iv for sure helped me.
I wasn't, you know, I wasn'tdehydrated when we finished the
race.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
So, um, that's the first for me for sure hey, let
me ask you this question, sinceyou're, uh, two years into this
whole trophy truck thing.
What has been the uh?
Well, I guess it's a two-partquestion.
What was the most difficultlike piece of the race that you
had to negotiate and then likethe same kind of steep curve was
it?
Is it all the same stuff thatyou're learning or is it
different each race?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
you know what, um, like the first year, it was
really just getting getting myteeth cut, like I've always
loved going fast, like I'vealways loved racing.
I grew up racing motocross, um,my, my parents raced ski racing
and my uncle raced trophytrucks and so I grew up around
racing, grew up around, um, youknow, big motors and horsepower

(36:38):
and all that sort of stuff.
So I just it's kind of it's inmy blood and I always loved it.
But really getting my teeth cutin the first year, kind of
understanding more specificallyhow a trophy truck works and how
to really operate it, and so Idid some um, some courses.
I did some training with rickyjohnson and you know he taught

(36:58):
me a lot about, like, theintermittent braking and I think
the intermittent braking isprobably the biggest thing that
helped me in a truck.
You can't just jump on thebrakes and expect that thing's
going to stop.
You've got six thousand poundsand you know you're in the dirt
and all that sort of stuff andreally that's been one thing
that really helped me the most.
Um, that really.
And you know, throttle control.

(37:20):
Throttle control is a hugething getting traction to the
ground, especially when you'rein a big block with a gearbox.
It's, you know, that's one ofthe next things is you got to
figure out how to get all thatpower and actually get traction.
So, um, there was that, andagain it's you know, um, racing
bikes kind of taught me how toread terrain.

(37:40):
Um, you know, it also probablytaught me how to set up for
corners, um, getting in ruts,getting in lines, picking lines,
doing all that sort of stuff,and so that stuff really comes
natural.
It's really you know.
Now it's just like refining,setting up for corners and and,
and you know truck position whenyou're on the course, truck

(38:02):
position when you're gettingthrough the rocky areas.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Again, just refining the drive style.
This is really near and dear tomy heart because I came from
dirt bikes too, so I understanda little bit.
Bella, she actually lost amotor.
They exploded a CVT and shelost the motor.
What mile marker was it?
It was mile marker two thirds.
So I want to get what was that,Nick?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
No, sorry, go on.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I don't want to use Bella's example, but in this
case I am, and the stuff thatyou're learning helps keep those
parts and helps keep the truckalive for a lot longer.
So those little minute details,like changing the way that you
use the brakes, changing the waythat you use the throttle, have
different rolling speedsthrough corners, have different

(38:53):
things that don't upset thetruck, all of those things help
the suspension components, theyhelp the tires, they help the
engine components, the drivelinecomponents.
It's really cool that you'resaying all this stuff, because
every little piece, like yousaid at the beginning, has
helped you get to where you areyeah, for sure, and like even
setting up with the suspension,just knowing the truck and
understanding how it works.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
And you know, when we first got it going it was good.
But you know, we went, we went,had a session with sdg and they
helped get the wheels on theground.
I guess is the easiest way ofexplaining it.
Um, once we could get thewheels on the ground I guess is
the easiest way of explaining itOnce we could get the wheels on
the ground, we'll get bettertraction.
It wasn't dancing aroundthrough the big bumps as much
and it just started working alot better.
You know Dugans who build ourmotor.

(39:36):
They've given me plenty ofpower and so that's not an issue
in that respect.
Plenty of power and consistent,reliable power as well.
You know those guys take careof business, they build a really
good motor and they've been agreat support.
Um and uh you know, theirattention to detail is very
similar to the detail thatyou're talking about this 100,

(39:56):
and they've been around longenough, they know that that's
what's required, and um and sothat's just what they do, and
they, they're good at it.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So so, knowing all that stuff and understanding it,
how do you feel?
What's your gauge on your levelof performance throughout the
race.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
You know what?
I'm super disappointed, but atthe same time, we had a plan and
, like I said, the plan was tojust drive consistent, be
disciplined, try and put Ryan inour dust and have him make the
mistake.
And that's what we did.
You know, other than thosecouple of flats, we pretty much

(40:36):
executed on that deal.
Just, you know, we needed alittle more luck on our side
that day and it just didn'thappen.
It wasn't our time.
So I really think that if wecan be consistent like that in
some of the races, you knowtowards the end of this year and
next year, that we've got thetop seed on the box looking

(40:59):
straight at us.
So I'm pretty confident in that.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
So, bella, I can tell you right now, just by looking
and hearing, what Nick's talkingabout is he's got a lot of
ambition.
He's putting himself, as wecall it, accountability.
He's accountable for all thestuff that he's saying, and
those are very good things forany professional racer, or
soon-to-be professional racerlike you, bella, to be able to
learn because you can understandthat you don't have to be mad

(41:25):
at what you've done.
You just have to be accountablefor it and you have to have the
drive to do it better, likewhat Nick has.
I really appreciate thatmentality, nick.
I think that's going to takeyou very far, dude.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
I appreciate that.
We'll see here shortly, I'msure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Is there anybody you want to thank?
I know that the Geiselberg guyshelped you out quite a bit.
We didn't get to see Lindsayout there, but I hope she's
watching.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, lindsay's always around, she's a good hand
and yeah, again, I mean I can'tthank the Geiselberg team
enough.
We call him Cheeseburger BrianWibble is his name, but he takes
care of the trucks and they'rehis baby, so big thank you to
him.
Connor, who's my co-driver, hetakes care of the trucks and

(42:08):
they're his baby, so a big thankyou to him.
Connor, who is my co-driver I'mnot sure if he's on here.
I tried to text him earlier,but you know big thanks to him.
You know he's part of keepingme sane while we're in the truck
and obviously you know we'retrying to keep it all together
there in an intense nine hours.
So big thanks to him.
Kmc Wheels thank you forhelping out.

(42:28):
Vp Race Fuels thank you forhelping out.
Big shout out to my family.
They were up there on theweekend and they came to finish
line and we spent a couple ofdays in Tahoe after.
Oh, perfect.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, there's Connor right there.
What's up, Connor?
It's just cool to see you, man,the whole Rubik Racing team
Like I can't wait to see youguys.
Just keep excelling at thestuff that you're doing.
We had a comment.
Come in before, bella.
Did you see what it said?
It said what's next for Nick.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Oh yeah, what do you got going on next?

Speaker 5 (42:58):
What big races do you have planned?
So is going to be theCalifornia 300 of the Unlimited
Series.
And then, yeah, I've had acouple of guys ask about
potentially going into Baja torace the 1,000 with them, so
we'll see what happens with that.
Maybe Tracy Poole or there'sanother team from Australia that

(43:19):
threw a line out, sopotentially we'll go down and do
that.
And then one of my favoriteraces of the year is Rage of the
River at Laughlin.
Oh yeah, it's carnage man, andwe take the family down there
and we camp and we tear thefront cliff off the truck and we
tear the panels off the truckand we just go down there and
have a good time.
So we'll be at that one.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Sounds great.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Hey, so since you aren't from the united states,
we have this thing called rapidfire q a that we usually do at
the end of the show with ourguests.
We're going to only do the topfive questions, but uh, are you
ready?
All right, go with the firstquestion, bella tacos or hot
dogs tacos okay, big taco guy.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Uh, let's hear dunes or the river uh, the river I
grew up on the river in southaustral Dunes.
Or the river, the river I grewup on the river in South
Australia, so I'm a river boy.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah, river ride action shots or still shots oh,
action shots oh, big action, uh,pizza rolls or jalapeno poppers
oh man, probably jalapenopoppers.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
I like them hot coffee or tea coffee oh, that's
okay, british heritage being anaustralian but man, I don't.
I can't handle the tea.
I'm a coffee guy.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Alright, what's your favorite movie?

Speaker 5 (44:37):
buddy and that's it, my favorite movie.
Oh man, it fluctuates up anddown, but it's got to be Forrest
Gump.
Oh.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Is that your favorite movie, one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Forrest Gump man, I love it.
Hey, buddy, I want to say itagain, Like dude, just seeing
the level of execution that youshowed on Friday was just
amazing.
You impressed a lot of peopleand you really, really turned
some heads.
So congratulations.
Don't hold your head down fortoo long, because the next race
is coming up quick.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Yeah, no, we appreciate it and really thanks
to you guys for having me on theshow.
It's really cool.
And I wanted to shout out to mybusiness partner no, we
appreciate it and really thanksto you guys for having me on the
show.
It's really cool.
And I wanted to shout out to mybusiness partner, Tommy, as
well.
He was in the other Rubik truckand he's come a long way as
well, so keep an eye out for him.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Hell yeah, All right, Nick.
Well, thank you very much forCF3 Aces buddy Thank you See,
you guys Appreciate it, takecare.
All right, bella.
So we have your guy coming onnext, josh Rowe.
Josh Rowe, let's see here.
So we'll get Josh lined up realquick.
And thank you guys very muchfor sticking with us during this
whole show, because we messedit up at the beginning, so we

(45:48):
really appreciate you guys beingflexible on your guys' time as
well.
All right, bella, go for it.
It here's, josh Rill hi hi,good, how are you?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I'm good what's up Josh?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
hey, first and foremost, Bella's going to give
you an intro, but first andforemost congratulations.
You were just straight ripping,thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, we're uh pretty excited.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Wait, look where he's sitting in the car, no way in
his trophy.
Yes, dude, that's already a winin our book we don't even need
to do an interview.
He's sitting In the car.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
No way In his trophy.
Yes, dude, that's already a winin our book.
We don't even need to do aninterview, he's already got the
best picture, we can default.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
All right, go for it.
Bill Josh Rose from El Cajon.
He's been racing for 19 years.
He has experienced a coupleyears of the tough race.
We all know Vegas Torino butrace.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
We all know vegas torino, um but just this last
weekend, josh and their crewoverall vtvs vegas torino 2024
yeah, baby, good job, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Hey, you're a big moto guy too.
Uh, yeah, grew up, grew up, uh,racing quads professionally and
then, yeah, kind of switchedfrom from from the quads over to
to dirt bikes.
Pre-running down in Baja ondirt bikes I'd done the rip with
Cameron a few times and, yeah,just kind of dabbling in all of
it.
I just love anything withwheels that wants to move across

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the desert.
I'm about it.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Do you have a favorite one?
Well, UTV is probably yourfavorite this week, right?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Sometimes it's pretty
frustrating, but this weekendwas good.
Yeah, no, I mean honestly.
I mean they all have theirpluses and minuses.
I have a great time on any onethat I'm on, so I've been
fortunate enough to be on goodequipment over the years, so any
one of them has really beenpretty good.
I agree, but I'll still saythis Like I love four-wheel

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racing, but I'm still a dirtbike guy at heart.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yeah, you get on a good single track down in baja
and overlooking the ocean.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
I don't, I don't know it's.
It's pretty tough to beat?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I don't know uh, hit it with your questions, girl all
right, I got a lot of questions, but first I kind of want to
jump straight into the racerecap, you know, just to see if
it was a smooth ride.
Did you have any mishaps?
What?
What kind of happened?

Speaker 1 (47:58):
so we we've kind of gotten.
This is a totally new programwith mitchell and and myself and
cameron and and this.
Uh, this whole new platform hasbeen been a little different
for me, so I've just beengetting used to it with with the
shifting and and all the goodstuff.
But, um, yeah, so throughoutthe I mean we probably took off
the start line and about 10miles in I started uh, started

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seeing some some temp issues andobviously it was a super hot
day so I was a little concernedabout temp issues.
So we were trying to keep ourtemp issues down and we were
trying to kind of back out ofthe pedal and obviously we want
to get to the finish line.
So I mean, thankfully we wereable to to run it up around 90
miles an hour for the majorityof the day.
But it just felt, I mean, thoselong roads you're, you're only

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doing 90.
It feels like you're just asitting duck, you know.
So we're uh about I'd say it wasprobably probably about mile or
pit five.
We got into a physical battlewith max, eddie and, if you
rewind, about two, three yearsago, max and I went like toe to
toe and then naturally aspiratedclass.

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So I knew max was going to begoing to the front so I kind of
uh, I kind of just latched on tothe kind of what ryan was
saying about you know that guy,he I kind of latched, he started
ahead of me, I kind of latchedonto his dust line and we just
started working our way throughthe pack and uh, yeah, we, we
got up to.
It was it was just after mileor race mile five when I uh
caught up to the back of max,like I just caught a rock on the

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left front and and uh, tried tostay calm and we had to jump
out and change the flat and thatwas kind of like our only
really big issue throughout theday.
I mean, obviously, the temps,not be able to push the car wide
open.
But, um, yeah, just kind ofkept, kept plugging away.
We uh got to, I'd say, pit 12and put the last can of fuel in

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the car and uh, that literallyour, our, our pits were just
like radio silent we've had hadover the years.
They'll kind of hey, you'rethis close, you're this close,
keep pushing, you know, and thensomething happens and then you
know, everything goes away.
So they were super quiet andthey were just like, go, have
fun.
I'm like, okay, I know, I know,I know we're working in the
right direction here.
Yeah, we came through pit 13and they were like, hey, hey, it

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looks like uncorrected.
You're like right there.
So, um it, actually I've kind ofgotten this stuck in this
situation before.
I don't know if you guys knowbo baron, but I've I've raced in
many years on quads and um, he,I always felt that he always
would catch the lappers at theperfect point and I would always
catch him at the wrong point.
And I watched max as we wereheading up the rocky uphill, he

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caught a truck, or like one ofthe 4,400 trucks, and I saw that
happen and I like I saw it alllike replay in my head and I was
like, oh no, I can't, I can'tdo this.
Like I just I kind of lookedover at my buddy Preston, and
Preston is very, very good atkeeping me calm.
I like so badly want to justpush the car to its limit just

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so quickly.
Like so badly want to just pushthe car to its limit just so
quickly.
He's like no, no, no, like justyou know, back off, back off.
So we, uh, we had to pushthrough his dust.
I mean we tried everythingbecause I mean he's still got a
race going too.
So it's hard to you know, hardto to discredit him, for you
know what he's trying to do.
So it's like we're trying toand thankfully, just at the top
of the hill he led us by and Iknew from that point on like I

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was going to be just a drag raceto the finish and I just kind
of drove that thing like it wasprobably his last race.
But you know it was uh, it was.
It was a lot of fun.
We got to the finish and it wasreally cool to to hear that at
the end.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Well, sadie said that she just chimed in right now
and she said that she's got thecar in the garage and it looks
like you could do another 500miles.
So you must have drove itpretty smooth the whole time
yeah, it was I.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I I guess I'm one of those people too on the like, on
the, when I race and anythingelse as well.
Like I, you feel like you hitsomething.
You get out.
You're like, oh, it's just alittle nick, you know.
So it was, it was, it was good,the car was.
The car was unbelievablemitchell.
Mitchell built an absolutelyperfect car.
I mean mean, I never even threwa wrench at the thing, I just

(51:57):
full trust in him.
He's like just go drive it,don't even stress on anything.
So it's a lot of fun havingthat kind of trust and just
being more or less being able tojust focus on my driving and
Preston calling the notes.
I mean, preston, I waslistening to Ryan and how you
have to stay like you know, todrive that long and not make a

(52:20):
little mistake.
I mean one little mistake,you're out Like you're, you know
.
So trying to stay like presentand not make any of those
mistakes is so tough.
You catch yourself wanderingand you got to.
Okay, bring it back, you knowso.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Well, bella, we were talking about it before the show
.
Even like pace in the utv class, josh is like well, here let me
use some, some stats kind of, Iguess, or some examples there
was a lot of people that dnf therace yep the reason that those
good guys dnf.
The race is because the pace isso fast.
You don't have a choice.
You have to go all out or it'snot going to.
You're not going to win, Right,so yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I, yeah, we, we took off the start line and I mean
it's like you're saying, I meanwe, I mean we literally took off
the start line, I put it to thefloor and I'm like okay, and
then that was when we, westarted seeing the temps rise
and it was like almost I mean Iwould say almost that maybe that
those temps rising and me notbeing comfortable pushing the
car to that extent might havebeen like the blessing in

(53:17):
disguise you know where I was.
I was kind of letting out of itinstead of thinking like, oh,
it'll take it, you know.
So I, I just the it is so crazy, how fat, I mean you, literally
.
I mean I thought like it's socrazy now that a 550 mile race,
I thought one flat tire wasgoing to take us out of it.
Like that's how, that's how youknow.
Before it was like oh, youcould, you, could, you know,
have this issue, have that issue, a couple tires, and oh, you

(53:39):
still got a chance at it.
Like now it's like if you'renot, you know, perfect, I mean
without.
And I I was kind of talking my,my, my buddy schwank, he's, he's
always done my fuel stops andhe is, he, he takes pride in
being able to sling those 11gallon cans around, like you
know that I can't even pick oneup myself.
And he, I mean, I told him atthe beginning of the day, I'm

(53:59):
like, hey, dude, like this, thisis gonna be like nascar today,
like you're gonna have to beperfect.
And he's like I know, I know,like he's always, he's always
game for it, so to to be able topull it off, especially with
all these super, you know, supergood competition, it's uh, it
it's really cool.
I was really, really excited.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah, it's super cool and you guys experienced a lot
of that track, the track and thegnarliness of the train as well
.
Did you guys go full Matt?
Because he had to?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Definitely not full, matt.
The one time we tried to gofull Matt, we ended up with a
flat.
I was actually going to talkabout that a little bit.
Um, because you previouslyraced vegas trino, did you
notice a lot of like changes inthe terrain compared to like
last year, year before?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
um, yeah, and I and I do think a lot of that plays
and plays into our advantage.
You know, like you, over theyears, you're, you know, you
kind of you get into sectionsand you, you, you're, you're
very familiar of the section.
So I've, I've, I've, I've wonVegas, you know, three times in
the pro quad class.
So doing all those sectionsagain in the car, you get a lot

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more, a lot more comfort and alot more, just, I don't know,
you're a lot more aware,especially when you're in the
dust.
You know, you know, okay, orjust I don't know, you're a lot
more aware, especially whenyou're in the dust.
You know, you know, okay,downhill sand wash, I'm going to
drop down here and you're a lotmore like comfortable, I guess.
So, yeah, I mean the terrain,yes, I mean all the washes that
don't have a rut in them.
I was actually talking to mybuddy who he Ironman the

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motorcycle class and he was like, hey, did you see?
Like he's like I couldn'tbelieve this wash there was,
like there wasn't a track in it.
Like how was it for you guys?
I was like, oh, we went throughit after the trucks.
I'm like it's like a fulltwo-track run.
It looks like you know athousand cars have been through
there.
So, yeah, definitely all therain and everything definitely

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makes a big difference.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
It's kind of crazy to think like how much different
uh, each individual person'srace actually is so like let's
just say josh's race compared toryan arciero or nick wetstone's
race compared to your race,compared to the dirt bike guys,
rates compared to all thedifferent perspectives like what
josh is saying, like you don'treally ever think about it, but
it literally is a completelydifferent track from six in the
morning to 12 100, yeah, yeahit's.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I was telling, I was telling my buddy who did it on
the dirt bike.
I'm like, if you tried to gorace that track on a dirt bike
after the trucks have gonethrough, I mean they're.
I'm not exaggerating when I saythere is, I mean there's little
basketballs that are justsitting in the middle of the
race track and like if thosewere there on the dirt bike like
you're, I mean you're.
If you're in any slight dust,like you're, I mean you're gonna
, you're gonna be hurting, youknow.

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So it's uh, I mean those arewhat essentially, like gives us
flats if we're pushing into thedust and these things are just
hanging out like it's thescariest thing ever.
But you just, I mean that's just, I guess, kind of the the risk
we take.
I mean I was listening to briantalk about, you know, trusting
his co-driver.
Like there's so many sectionsof that race course that I mean

(56:58):
I'm literally just like he'ssaying, I'm like, all right,
what are we seeing?
What are we seeing?
You know, and he's just, youknow, he just he's, he's
essentially the one holding thewheel, like it's just, yeah,
it's something.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
How do you go faith with your co-drivers?
Crazy.
Not many people wouldunderstand that they're like
what's the point of you know,co-navigating your view?
Yeah, can't you just drive fora moment?
Can't you just drive foryourself?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I used to think when we first switched over to like
the natural aspirated car, likeI mean, you're only doing 75, 80
and like the natural aspiratedcar.
So I always was like, when Iswitched from the quad I was
like, oh, like, I mean he would,he would like, for the most
part he'd sit there and we'djust drive and we get into a
little dust and then, you know,he'd shout some stuff out and
then we'd drive for the nextcouple hours and now that we're

(57:47):
doing I mean a hundred, 105miles an hour, like you mean
it's crazy.
The element, like I neverthought I'd mentally get as
drained just from like, oh, I'vedone it all on the, I've done
it all on the, uh, on the bikeand quad.
You know, like I can do thislike physically, like now, it's
just it's crazy how draining itis.
Just all you're doing is justsheer focus because you're going

(58:08):
so fast.
Like it's it's uh, yeah, it'sjust a different animal, yeah,
what other questions?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
did you have for him, Bella?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I do have a lot more.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
She does, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I'm taking it up.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
No, you're not.
It was a good interview.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
What do you?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
think Christian.
Well, I would actually like totalk about this a little bit, so
Bella's got a general questionabout, like, making the switch
from two wheels to four wheelsor to from handlebars to a
steering wheel.
Um, I want to know just kind oflike what you were talking
about right now what you have todo to change in your mindset,
because I went through the sameprocess and I love hearing this.

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You're out by yourself on adirt bike or you're with
somebody else inside of a car ortruck, right?
you have a lightweight machinewith only two wheels.
You have a heavy machine withfour wheels.
The dynamics of it aredifferent.
Like there's so many differentthings, how do you change your
focus and your, your skillsetand your mindset and your head?
Because that, to me, is morethan the physical.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing that I that I
struggled with, honestly, was Icould always on a motorcycle or
a quad.
I could always make amotorcycle or a quad work.
I could adjust my body, I couldslip the clutch.
I could, I could, you know, youknow I could, I could, I could
move my body weight here, Icould.
You know, wheelie through thisstuff, dude, I could, I can

(59:27):
change those things.
And you strap into these cars,like, if the car's not working,
like you're, you're sitting deadin the water there, there's,
there's nothing you can do.
You know so.
And then also, I think, like alot of the, the big things and
one of the really cool thingsthat I like about the, like the
maverick r, is now being able toshift.
So, before, when I would drivelike a cbt car, you're

(59:48):
accelerating through, you know,say, you're accelerating through
the rocks.
Well, you, everything isrevving.
So, like it'd be, like, say,you go through a rock section on
a dirt bike, you're in secondgear, you're revving and and the
bike is loaded, everything is,you know, it's chattering.
You're getting a lot offeedback.
Well, the, the dirt bike, orlike the, the maverick r, you
can short shift it and it willjust settle the whole car down.

(01:00:10):
So it's cool to be able to,like you know, kind of take that
dirt bike mentality over to thecar and really, you know, use a
lot of my skills that I used.
I just I don't know it's, it's.
I guess that's like a really,really loaded question, but it's
uh like I love, I love justhearing that, because you're

(01:00:33):
right and we just talked aboutit a little bit with Nick
Whetstone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
We talked about those little minute details, right,
and let's just say that you weredriving a CVT vehicle and
there's nothing bad about it.
I have one, yeah, it would havebeen different for you.
A lot of the little minutedetails that you used in your
skill set to win this last racewas because of the tool set that
you were providing, and thattool set gave you the

(01:00:58):
capabilities to do it the waythat you wanted to.
You kept more rolling speed.
You unloaded the car when itneeded to be.
You loaded it when you need yeahand all these different little
things made that much of a bigdifference over that well, let's
just say 10 hour period right,yeah, it was, it was, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
It's something like, and how Ryan was saying, how
he's, you know, sitting out ofthe other guys, the dust and and
not trying to push in the dustand and and trying to you know,
hold yourself to, you know, notmake that mistake and not push
yourself too early and know whento like all right, this last 50
miles, like it, it's eithergoing on the trailer or we're

(01:01:35):
doing this, you know.
So it's, it's hard to to reallylike trust yourself and knowing
, like the amount of time andeffort that you've put into this
stuff and how much you are,like really believe in yourself
and and and you know, go, go,execute, which is it's hard,
after you've been doing it fornine hours, to go try and you
know, really dial yourself in.

(01:01:57):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
If you were going to give to the younger crowd, if
you were going to give someadvice on how to be able to
manage a race like the way thatyou did?
How would you tell them to doit, or what would you suggest?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I mean, I honestly I think it's just it's time and
doing it, cause, like I mean,even over the years of of doing
it right, it takes.
It took me so long to just justevery race.
Like you're, you're going tolearn something every time you
go out and race.
You're going to learn you knowwhen to push, when not to push,
how to save your vehicle, likeyou were talking about with, uh,
the last trophy truck guy.

(01:02:31):
Like how you're you're savingyour equipment.
You're not pushing the drivetrain too hard.
You're doing all those things.
Like there's so many littlethings that I feel like are like
so ingrained from me from beinglike from when I was young and
I was starting to do it to likenow, to where it's like, oh yeah
, I've, I've gone and broke that, I've gone and done that.
You know, like you learn allthose things and what makes

(01:02:59):
things last and last and and uh,it's just that that's where,
like, I feel like it's it'sgonna be wild for, like, the
younger generation coming upbecause, like, like all the
equipment has evolved.
So it's so crazy that, likeit's like I mean, if you're not
like I was saying, I mean ifyou're not, if you don't nail it
that day.
Like you're gonna be a top fiveguy.
Like you're just you know,that's just where it is.
It's like if and when you do itperfect, it's it's just you
know you gotta gotta really haveevery and that's what.

(01:03:19):
Like there's so many variablesand off road, like if Schwick
wouldn't have had a, can youknow loaded with enough fuel, if
we would have had, you know,all these different things that
you know are going on, that youknow, if know, if one of those
things is wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
We're, we're not even we're not having a conversation
today.
Yeah, but it's cool, bella.
That's so crazy and like youget to experience it you get to
experience it from the driver'sseat you know how hard your crew
works oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
The amount of hands that get used that weekend is
insane, from pitting to loadingsnacks, to doing camel packs
Loading snacks Most important.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Got to have them.
Yeah, I, I all my I mean all mypit crew whether it's down in
Baja, best of the desert,anything like that is is all my
family and friends my, my wifeand my three-year-old and and
all my friends.
They, they all show up to help.
They're all super knowledgeable.
I'd trust them with anything onany of my cars.
And I'm just I've got a reallycool core group of family and

(01:04:19):
friends around me that thatreally want to see me and
Preston do well and it's it'sreally cool to do it for them,
cause I I feel like it's been awhile, so it's a it's cool to
kind of pay them back that way.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
It's definitely a team win and the high lasts all
month.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I don't think it's still hitting me, I just
it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I just yeah, it's pretty exciting, I've waited a
long time to put something likethis together.
Yeah, you landed on the top andthere was a massive amount of
competition, so you should bevery proud of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
So we are going to get the guy that you're battling
with all day max eddie on herein just a little bit, but I want
to sayjosh before you take off, first
and foremost, it was nice beingable to talk with you, a little
bit like uh, as a human being, Ireally like your attitude and
stuff, and bella has beenwanting to, uh, do a little bit
more stuff with her bella'scorner segment on the dirt life
show, and she wants to get morein-depth with people.
I think it would be really coolif you guys lined up a show and

(01:05:17):
we can actually sit down foryou know an hour or something
and Bella could give you someserious questions.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I'd be more than
willing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Really excited.
That'd be super cool.
It was not really you.
I'm super happy to be talkingto you and stuff, yeah and hey
dude, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
You should live that this whole week, man.
Thank you, I appreciate it, allright.
Thanks, josh.
We really appreciate it.
We'll see you soon, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
See ya.
Bye, Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Bye, all right, so let's get.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
Max Eddy on here and then.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I think Austin Eddy is going to join us too.
Yeah, and Max will get Max on,and then we'll get Austin, we'll
talk to these boys.
Man, it's so cool, don't youget like a little heartfelt,
like get stoked, when you hearall these conversations?
Yeah, all right, so we have MaxEddy.
What's up, buddy?
Nothing much.

(01:06:08):
Hey, put your phone down alittle bit so we can see a
little bit more of your face.

Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
Let me.
I got this set up in my.
We got Austin, oh I didn't tellAustin.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Austin, oh, there he is.
All right, austin, what's upman?

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
What's going on, George?
What's up dude, Are you guys at?

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
the same spot or no?

Speaker 6 (01:06:30):
No, I was out at dinner.
I'm leaving right now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Oh right on.

Speaker 6 (01:06:37):
What did you eat?
Denopolis and Barstow?

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
There you go, all right, so let's get into this on
the real though.
So, max Eddie and Austin Eddiefirst and foremost boys,
congratulations.
You guys had an insanelyhard-fought battle.
It wasn't just top two, it wasalmost the whole top five all
day you guys had a couple issuesthat held you back a little bit
.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
But, max, tell us a little bit about the race.
You know, man, it started withqualifying.
I'm a desert racer.
We don't get to qualify veryoften, so qualifying still beat
us.
Luckily hey, beat it.
Sorry, my dog growled at me.
You know, luckily we landedinside the top 15 at qualifying,

(01:07:24):
which gave us a decent spot forthe start and actually it's
probably right where we wantedto be.
We were kind of right at.
You know, everyone in front ofus was super fast and I knew if
we just latched on to that groupthen we should be able to, you
know, just mosey our way uptowards the front and and run

(01:07:47):
with those guys yeah, but I mean, it wasn't that easy, though
you guys had an insanely I dondon't know high speed Dude the
competition and the level of thepace was just dude.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
It was ball to the ball.
Can you give us a little bit ofan understanding of how that
was, Austin?
Yeah, it was.
Let's let Austin say it fromthe passenger seat.
First, max, and then we'll goto you, because you were the man
with the throttle.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
Yeah, these new Polaris players cards, they're,
they're, uh, they're solid um.
We raced um the na car lasttime at this race and it was
like we had to like kind of backit down and like save the car.
But no, these new cars, it'sjust, it's just wide open.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
You don't care about nothing really, you just who can
go the fastest yeah, well, whocan go the fastest is up to
who's going to push the pedaldown hard enough back so that's
what I was saying, like I don't,I don't understand how the pace
has gotten this fast in my mind, but you've been part of it
like you're driving the force,like you're making, you're
setting the pace, like it is sodang fast now yeah, it totally

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is.

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
You know, two, two years ago in the na car, um, we
battled with josh, you know, andI was like man, this is a
pretty fast pace, you know, andand um, I was like how I don't
know how these cars can survive?
Well, it's crazy, we're stillsaying that and we're going 40,
50 mile an hour faster than wewere in the NA cars.
You know, I think we hit a topspeed of 110 across one of the

(01:09:20):
lake beds in the Pro-R and youknow, it's just crazy that what
these things will take, you knowyou don't have to be nice to
them, you don't have to.
You know, I think the mentalitya few years ago was like all
right, let's save the car.
Whoever saves the car and gets,gets it to the finish line, is

(01:09:41):
going to do pretty good.
And that's not the mentalityanymore, it's it's drive the
fastest, you know does thatchange the way that you go about
the race?
Yeah, of course.
Of course you know, andobviously we do.
We do a lot more racing down inBaja and the mentality is is
not the same down there.
You know these.

(01:10:06):
Baja is a lot rougher thanVegas Torino and takes a
different kind of driving styleto race down in Mexico.
But Vegas Torino was a fivehundred and fifty five mile
sprint race.
It really was, you know, andand we had, we, we unfortunately
got stuck behind a slower carin the dust for 150 miles and
ultimately ended up getting twoflat tires because of it.
Total driver error, 100% myfault, just trying to get

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impatient in the dust and I waslistening to Josh, you know, and
Nick and the Rubik's truck andAnne Arciero about just being
patient in the dust, man, andyou feel the race slipping away
from your hands while you'rejust sitting in the dust doing
40, 50 miles an hour.
You're doing a lot slower thanwhat you really want to be doing
, you know, and it's hard toremain patient for that long,

(01:10:52):
but we almost.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Well, it's kind of give and take, though, right,
because, like the differencebetween the win and the loss or
the second place, not a loss,but the first and second place
time split was I think it wasjust at a minute, like it was so
small and your mindset, youcan't change the way that you
were thinking because thatminute could have been gained or

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lost right there in that second.

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
Yeah, absolutely, you know.
Honestly, it's a matter of ifJosh would have got stuck behind
that Ultra 4, that could havelost the race for him, you know
if he got stuck behind thattruck for another two miles.
That would have been it.
And it's a matter of just being, you know, having a ton of race

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craft and like, all right, howdo I get around this guy?
You know, um, we followed thisguy for that same ultra four
truck that josh was talkingabout.
We followed him up this hill,pushing the push to pass, trying
to get around him.
We knew we we had to make upfour minutes and 16 seconds in
the last 80 miles.
Um, our last fuel pit is thelast time I seen josh.

(01:12:03):
I was getting a re-rack from mylast, from my flat tire, and
josh pulls in right in front ofme and I seen his, his, uh, pit
guy with their dump can and I'mgetting a re-rack and I took off
.
And then Adam Arsenault, ouroperations director, came over
to the radio and told me I wasfourth overall on corrected time
and I'm four minutes and 16seconds down from the leader,

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josh Rowe.
And I looked at Austin.
I said, well, we got to go forit, you know.
And we got stuck behind thatUltra 4 for a little bit and had
to get crafty to get hisattention to get out of the way.
And we did that and I was likewell, josh is a good buddy of
mine.
I've raced against him for along time.
I hope he gets stuck behindthat guy a lot longer than we

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did.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
That's kind of crazy, though, to think about.
Like Austin, you guys made upall of that time.
It's not easy to make up three,four minutes in any desert race
let alone Vegas Arena, whereyou're just mad at the whole
time.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Yeah no, after that last pit we kind of just put our
heads down, went to work andeverything was just flowing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, everything was just going perfect and we made
up quite a bit of time, and notquite enough, but enough to be,
uh, second on the box.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy,though.
Like did you, did you, how didyou guys do inside the uh,
inside the cockpit, max?
Like what's your guys's uhconversation?
Like going, all right, we gotto make up four minutes, what
the fuck are we gonna do?
And then you guys just telleach other I'm gonna do this,
this and this, and then you justgo and mark off the checklist
you know, I I think it's, it'sjust quiet.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
We got it over the radio and it just everything
gets quiet in the car and austinjust you know he's super
consistent with his, his notesand his calls and stuff and it
it feels like everything juststarts to flow.
You know, like the calls he'scalling out match the corners or
match the braking when I needto get on the brakes for a

(01:14:07):
danger, or something like thatand it's just everything flows
and honestly, like that last 80miles was just, it was quiet in
the car and we're just going forit.
You know, and and being atnight, you know, and and and
trying to push through thedarkness and the dust lingers a

(01:14:27):
lot longer at night, you know.
So it's, it's a it's a littleharder, but I love racing at
night and it's, it's one of myfavorite things to do, and and
uh, it seems when you've got agood navigator and co-driver
like Austin, I mean we just gotour GoPro video back of of some
of the some of our race, youknow, from our guy Nelson and

(01:14:49):
and um, we got two flat tiresboth.
Both flat tires were changed intwo minutes.
Two minutes and 15 second tirechanges, that's out of the car,
both of us out of the car andboth of us back in the car, and
so you know we used all thatstuff just to get better and
stuff.
But a two-minute tire change ina UTV is pretty good.

(01:15:09):
I know the truck guys got itdown like a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Well, unfortunately we don't have big old uh,
whatever they are 700, 400 wattjacks that'll push up a whole 7,
000 pound trophy truck on theetvs right, yep, uh, it is cool
to hear this like because in inmy racer brain uh, I'm washed up
now but still in my racer brainlike I can kind of feel it like
what you guys are saying aboutbeing in the flow and just

(01:15:36):
understanding how the car worksand even though it's at night
and it's dark, like I can kindof just see like you're you're
moving slow on the steeringwheel.
You're kind of just yourmotions are like just like fluid
, like that's got to feel prettygood and it almost like makes
you feel like why the fuckcouldn't I have just drove that
whole way the whole time.

Speaker 9 (01:15:54):
Yeah, you know, and it is Like you got times right.
You got 550 miles to make amistake, or just be calm in the
car and I think I feel wheneverything's flowing you know,
your heart rate's low, yourfocus is on point and you're not
getting excited.
But the second you get insomeone's dust, all that changes

(01:16:17):
.
You know, you can't see, yourheart rate goes up, you start to
get impatient and you start tomake mistakes and, unfortunately
, doing this for so long I youknow, I still do that and that's
exactly what I did at this race.
It definitely cost us theoverall win and got players
factory racing Our first loss, Ithink.
I think that josh josh willlive that up for a while and and

(01:16:42):
if someone was going to give usour first loss, I don't think I
could find a better person thatI would, you know, be willing
to admit that to other than joshrow for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Well, I will say this , though like josh, he did do a
fantastic job, right?
He gave everybody a run fortheir money and he drove a great
race, uh, but I will say thisyour accountability is very
impressive because you areholding yourself to a higher
standard and you want to makesure that you don't make those
same mistakes in the future andthat you are a better racer in
the future.
So that's appreciative andthat's what we always try to

(01:17:13):
tell people on Dirt Life Show isif you have something to learn,
be a sponge and listen to thoseprofessional racers when they
are accountable for their stuff.
So thank you for saying allthat.
One of the things that I dowant to talk about, though, is
Ryan Arciero and Nick Westontalked about it a little bit at
the beginning of the show andthat's the pace versus the race
strategy.

(01:17:34):
Right, the pace is so high italmost makes you feel like you
have to throw the race strategyout the window and then just go
balls to the wall, but you can't.
You and Austin and the wholeFlair's Factory team have to
still stick to a certain levelof plan so that you have the
accuracy and reliability to getto the finish line.
So how do you guys manage allof that?

Speaker 9 (01:17:54):
You know, I think I like to call it like a floating
race strategy or a floating pace.
You know you got to adapt tothe pace or you got to adapt to
a new strategy that might be alittle bit faster, um, than you
want to go right, um, especiallyat this race, because track
position is extremely important.

(01:18:16):
Track position could gain youfive minutes or lose you five
minutes if you're in the dust,you know.
So obviously, just like, as therace goes on, your strategy
changes and you got to adapt toa new pace or a new strategy or
whatever, whether it's youstaying holding that track
position so you don't get caughtup in the dust, for you know

(01:18:38):
150 miles, so it all justchanges constantly, every mile.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Are you able to adapt?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
that quickly, austin.
Like how do you guys managethat from the co-driver seat?

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
I mean because everything is like max is saying
it's changing so quickly yeah,I think, uh, I don't remember
the question, but yeah, I thinkjust we're just getting that
flow really and just and juststart going, everything just
clicks and um, yeah, pretty muchit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Yeah, I don't remember the question, I guess
it is right like, and you're so,you guys are so natural at it
because you guys have been doingit on dirt bikes and, you know,
in all these different vehiclesfor so long I guess it is it's
just like it just clicks, itjust hits that way um let's just
say that you were in thedriver's seat, in the back of
your player's car, bella, howwould you manage that?
I think, Do you take directionfrom the team?

(01:19:38):
Do you make your own decisions?
Do you listen to your co-driver?

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Definitely from the team.
I feel like being open-mindedis a big deal, especially in the
racing industry.
That way you have so many likejust points of view.
Yeah, it betters yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
And you can be a sponge.
So yeah, those types of thingsare always interesting for me to
hear from the youngergeneration.
Max, what kind of stuff wouldyou give as advice to somebody
like Bella that's going to?
You know, try to shoot forbeing a professional driver like
yourself in the future.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
Man, just keep after it.
Keep every time you get behindthe wheel.
Learn, learn something, askadvice, talk to people you know.
Just be open minded and andhang out with the best of the
best you know and you're goingto.
You're going to learn, you know, and just watching what people

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do and being observant is isunreal.
Sometimes it answers your ownquestion.
You don't even got to ask.
You're just sitting therewatching like, oh man, I've seen
that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Just be super observant, yeah totally, hey,
we're going to do two things.
We've got Bella's Corner, we'vegot Sam Road coming on here in
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
I wanted to mention a couple things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
I was wondering if there was something in the water
I'vestow that's making thesemustaches look so great.

Speaker 9 (01:20:56):
Well, we knew Vegas Torino was going to be pretty
western, so we had to play thebar.
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
I like it.
I like it a lot actually.

Speaker 6 (01:21:09):
I'm getting mine ready for Baja.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
Oh are you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
Yes, that's perfect.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
Vegas Torino is just the sprint race.
Are you Nice?
That's perfect.
Vegas Arena is just the sprintrace for your mustache?

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yep, oh.
And what's a milk stash?
I don't get it, but it's funny.
All right, hey.
So we keep forgetting sometimesabout asking these rapid-fire
questions at the end.
Max, you've answered some ofthem, but Bella's going to ask a
couple questions.
Why don't you start with Maxfirst and then go to Austin?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
All right Max.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
You can ask whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Supercross or motocross.
Moto Okay, motocross Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Let's go with Austin this one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
All right, austin, chips and guacamole, or fries
and ketchup.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Chips and guacamole.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
All day.
We can still be friends, buddy.
That's what I tell everybody.
Alright, here's your favoritesnack, Max.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
What's that Favorite snack?
Peanut butter and jelly.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
That's the racer's favorite

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
what about uncrustable?
Do you ever get those at thepits?

Speaker 9 (01:22:19):
I had a pack of them in my chest all right austin
netflix or youtube, youtube.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Uh, all right, do the superpower one all right, if
you could have one superpower,what would it be?
Max?

Speaker 9 (01:22:34):
see you in the future .

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Ooh, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Yeah, I have that one too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
All right, ask Austin one more, and then we're going
to be out.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Austin, same one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
No, you can ask him whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
What other form of racing would you like to try?

Speaker 6 (01:22:49):
Other form of racing, probably like downhill mountain
bike, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I don't know, dude, what if you could do like Dakar?
What if you could do those likespeed boats?
That go like super crazy acrossthose like Louisiana swamps.
Those things look so gnarly.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
Yeah, or uh, yeah, probably downhill mountain bike.
Yeah, All right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Well, he's going to pick mountain bike, but I think
his stash is going Louisianaspeed bumps.
Hey boys, hey again, dude, youguys did a fantastic job and I
will say this it doesn't matterwhat place you finish because,
holy fuck, you guys are haulingass.
The insane pace is just.
It blows me away.
So I can't wait to see you guyson top of the box.

Speaker 9 (01:23:31):
Congratulations you guys.
My car is amazing.
I I think our all of ourmechanics at players factory
racing are are top notch, and myuh casey sims is my mechanic
he's.
He's a racer himself, so hegets it, man, and our car is
flawless and even after afterthe race it's, I think he's

(01:23:51):
gonna wash it off.
We're going straight to the 400with it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Dude, that's so cool man.
Yeah, he does a great job.
So all right, boys.
Well, thank you very much.
We'll see you guys in the races.
I might even see you guyssooner.

Speaker 9 (01:24:02):
Sounds good, georgie.
Thank you, see you guys, allright.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
So before we get Sam on, we're going to talk a little
bit more about the sponsorshipsummit real quick, and so I told
Alex, you can just have like 60seconds, or we could just do 60
seconds, because tomorrow'sgoing to be really important for
helping spread the word on howpeople can improve their race
program.
So I want to give a littleshout out to it.
I'm a dirt life.
All right, alex it just saidthat it declined you on the

(01:24:29):
invite.
So please update your Instagramapp, and to do that, you just
have to go to your apps on youriPhone and then update it.
And so we'll talk about it justa little bit before we get Sam
on the Sponsorship Summit.
What it does is we get, or Alexgets, all of these different

(01:24:50):
marketing vice presidents ofmarketing, marketing people,
athlete managers, all thesedifferent things.
He's got people from Ford.
He's got people from all kindsof different companies that will
come on and they'll talk to youabout it.
Matt Martelli is going to comeon.
Let me see who else we have, orAlex can tell us a little bit
more about who we have coming on, but all of these people will
give you guys advice on how toget sponsored and what they want

(01:25:12):
in their sponsorship program.
So it's pretty cool to be ableto get all of that information.
We'll see what we can get Alexon now Because, like when I was
racing, I would have loved tohave this information.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Yeah, like I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
I wasn't able to ever get that stuff, so did I change
it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
What the heck happened to the light.
So we'll see if we can get Alexon here, if we can't get him.
Unfortunately it's not comingup so all right, well, let's
just get Sam on here and then wewill.
Is she on here?
Oh wait.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
There he is let's get Samantha on, do you want?

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
to ask her if she likes sam or samantha better,
yeah, I should.
What the heck did I do tochange the way it looks?

Speaker 7 (01:26:10):
hi, hey, how are you?
I'm good.
How are you?
I didn't know if you were goingto invite my other instagram or
this one, so I was confused.
We got it, oh, I know, yeah, Iwas also do you go by?

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
what do you prefer, sam or samantha?
Bam, okay, that's what Ifigured, but I got a really sick
intro for you so I'm gonna bustthat out real quick.
But sam is from wisconsin.
She works for evolution powersports, as you all know, super
involved in the athletes programsales department, going to
events, races, stuff like that,so Vegas Torino being one of

(01:26:43):
them.
She co-dogged for Jacob Sucone,who placed second in the
Superstop class, right behindhis dad.

Speaker 7 (01:26:53):
Todd Sucone.
But how are you Still likefeeling the post post race high
that comes with everything?
This was my first full desertrace co-driving and it was one
of those that I looked at Toddbefore, like before we got into
staging and I was like I have noidea what I just said yes to.
He's like no, I was like allright, cool.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Let's do this Very spontaneous a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
It was super cool to see and you know, what's funny
too is like I didn't really talkto Todd or Jacob or anybody
much before the race and I sawSam coming with her gear bag and
I go no way.
This is so rad, like how coolis this that Sam gets to be?
Able to get in the car and justhave a good time at Vegas Arena
.
Get in the car and just have agood time at vegas arena.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
Did you think that the pace was pretty fast, sam?
So actually, uh, there's acouple different things that
happened before we, after pitone and before pit three, we had
some steering issues, um, so wedidn't really get a chance to
go super fast and then aroundmile marker 350, we completely
lost our front diff.
So for us it was pretty.
I think the top speed that wehit was maybe like 86 87 nothing

(01:28:00):
too crazy, but that's prettyfast in the supercar, yeah no,
yeah, and it was cool, we got towatch them too, oh I was really
concerned about that in-caraudio.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
That would be one of my concerns as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Sam's got to be careful with her Wisconsin
accent.
It's just stuff to be construeda little bit differently.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
I do, I do.
And at night when the fieldmice came out, we were singing
Little Bunny Foo Foo.
At one point Jacob did not havean opportunity to get in his
head with how many differentthings were coming up with, like
when we would call out turns orwhen something would come up.
It was like Ric Flair woosevery time we hit like a jump.
It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yeah, we kind of do the same thing Every time, me
and my co-driver Dylan Lundbergwe go or we make the 100-mile
mark.
We'll like fist bump or we'llbe like booyah I say something
stupid.
We'll like fist bump or we'llbe like booyah, or I say
something stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
I always do, but that's so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Yeah, it's just a little spice.
Hey, what did you eat when youwere in the car?

Speaker 7 (01:29:01):
Yeah, I didn't eat At all.
No, I had a camelback and Ikept drinking.
You didn't have granola bars.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
You didn't have Uncrustables Nothing.
No, I had Skittles.

Speaker 6 (01:29:15):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (01:29:16):
That's what I wanted.
I wanted Skittles, but I nevergot them.
I had a bunch of stuff taped tothe roof, though, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Yeah, that's what my mom does.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
She'll zip, tie it and then we'll when you like,
when you're around, bella, likeyou could have just like passed
skills from car to car thatwould have been genius.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Yeah, we messed up I know it was really cool to see
you out there though, especiallybecause you've always been on
the sponsor perspective and, youknow, helping with the athletes
program and everything butgoing into the actual driving
scene, kind of seeing like youknow, like this perspective.
How has that kind of changedfor you, or like?

Speaker 7 (01:29:54):
it's a whole new addiction.
Yeah, um, so it really happenedat the.
Well, it happened more athammers.
So when we went to king ofhammers for the first time this
year as a company, um see, likebeing a part of the crew and and
seeing todd and jacob racetogether, it was so emotional,
like the highs and the lows andjust like where they are and
watching them on a racing tracks, and just all of it was just so

(01:30:15):
intense.
And then the mint 400 came upand I got asked to co-drive in
the mint and I was like, oh,okay, like I've never done this
before, but okay, and Todd threwus through me and Billy Longin
on that third lap and that wasamazing, that was like my first
dip into it.
And then when I I was told twoweeks ago that we were doing

(01:30:37):
Vegas to Reno.
So I didn't really know howthings go with the Zacon.
Sometimes it's just like lastminute and it's go, go, go.
So I quickly got everythingtogether.
It was really interesting howeverything came together because
I had taken a call from SarahPrice the week prior and I told
her that there was a chance thatI was racing Vegas Torino.

(01:30:58):
She connected me with Ericafrom Waypoint and she was a
godsend.
I took the class the Mondaybefore we left and I learned so
much and then, like I got mysuit on Tuesday, I got my gear
bag, I think, on Wednesday, andthen we flew out on Thursday,
got everything else and then wasable to get the notes put
together, get everything loadedand then got in the car on

(01:31:21):
Friday and just did it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Yeah, it was wild, that's cool, so spontaneous,
it's just like straight to thepoint Yep, yeah, wild, that's so
spontaneous, it's just likestraight to the point.
Yep, yeah, no, that's prettycool.

Speaker 7 (01:31:30):
It especially going into a race not knowing what's
going to happen and then comingout with, you know, a podium
spot like super, super cool yeah, it was wild, it was and it's
so intense and just we weretalking about it after, uh, one
of the just how you explain whatyou've done to somebody who
hasn't done it.
Because I don't come from aracing family.

(01:31:52):
My brother does Camaro stuffwith the Crown Rally and with
Gumball and stuff like that.
My sister does barrel racing,but as far as my family goes,
there's no racing ties toanything.
So when I'm trying to explainthis, it's so difficult because
it's more than just you know,you and the driver going on the
stage and doing all the stuff.
It's the team and the teamworkand everything that goes into

(01:32:15):
building it and getting everyonethere.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
It was just, it's euphoric yeah, and the
adrenaline too, just everythingabout it.
I definitely give credit to allthe other sports out there, for
sure, but it's very hard toexplain basically the dirt life
Like to explain being in the carand these constant battles that
no one gets to see.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Well, we just talked about it a little bit with some
of the other guys too.
Like nutrition, hydration,focus, like all these different
things Like you know, if you'retired and you drive from, let's
just say, san Diego to Phoenix,that's like five hours, or
whatever it is right.
Or Los Angeles to Phoenix sixhours you get tired.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Well, think of that times 50, 100.
That's what's happening insidean off-road car, and one of the
things that I think is so coolis there's all kinds of
different ways to manage it.
Sam manages it differently thanyou.
You manage it differently thanI do.
When you get the good teamtogether, it makes the most
insane difference.
At the end, you all feel likeyou achieved something.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
I definitely agree.
I got a lot more questions foryou.

Speaker 6 (01:33:20):
She's got a good lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Sam, she's got a good lineup.

Speaker 6 (01:33:22):
I'm here, for it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Speaking of adrenaline, I know you
personally so it's a little bitdifferent, but I know you do a
lot of really fun things outsideof racing and outside of the
racing world.
Um, give everybody a littleidea what you do for fun.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
So prior to this and you know, going into like the
heat of the desert and stufflike that, I actually just just
came off of a 3000 milemotorcycle adventure where we
left from St Paul Minnesota.
Yeah, it was wild, it was.
That was also very intense.
We left from St Paul Minnesotaand we drove to or we rode to,
niagara Falls of all placesInsane, yeah.

(01:34:01):
And then we ended up at theHarley Davidson homecoming and
then after that we just buzzedout to Mitchell, south Dakota,
for the pre-surgeous party.
So I mean, motorcycling isthat's where I started with the
power sports is in, you know,motorcycles.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
It's just where everything kind of started right
, and then what it kind of justleaked into the off-road racing
world.
Who did you kind of meet andthen decided, hey, I want to get
into this program.
I like it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
So funny story, um, I so I started selling cars and
you know car sales is and then Imoved into selling Harleys and
then I became the businessmanager and through that, like,
I've had a passion formotorcycles my entire life and
Jesse Combs has always been myidol.
And it's wild because whenCOVID hit, you know, everybody

(01:34:48):
experienced some sort of jobloss and I was one of those
people and I had kind of justlet it go for a while, went to
Arizona for a month and saw ajob posting at Evolution Power
Sports and just applied and didan interview and took the job
and that was June 8th of 2020.
So it's four years ago, yeah,and that's what changed my, my

(01:35:09):
entire life yeah, that's supercool.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Yeah, to be able to build a sponsorship like that.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
Now you're out here co-driving for some of the
ambassadors for it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
Yeah, it's insane, and you know what I was thinking
about that today, because youknow, leading up to this podcast
and stuff and it was reallyGeorge and Jen's podcast that he
did on Soul Seekers, that kindof like tailspin to everything,
because they were talking about,you know, divine appointments
and things like that, and Ireally it kind of like

(01:35:40):
everything kind of like was senthome with how everything
happens and how people meetcertain people and these
different connections that youmake and how they lead to other
things, and everything just kindof led us here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Yeah, no, I definitely agree.
I think, everything happens fora reason Blessings in disguise,
yes, because I see like seem alittle bit hard to grasp or
understand in the moment, butthen, years down the road you're
like dang well, that actuallyreally worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
It's kind of exactly sam and I have talked about this
before but like you got to ridethe wave sometimes and like,
just be um, able to be, like,let life show you where you need
to go.
Sometimes, right, and there'sall kinds of different things
that have happened in my lifeand your life, right, and you're
just like dude, I'm so down inthe dumps and then all of a
sudden something picks you upand sends you out, like on the
right path.
And seeing the smile on herface this weekend, like when she

(01:36:34):
had her gear bag, like youcould tell she was a little
nervous, she was good to go andshe's had like the confidence
and this little swagger.
Like you see all those thingsand you're like, yeah, this is
like, this is how it's supposedto be.

Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
Yeah, aww, all of my heartstrings.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
But seriously, that's the way it's supposed to be
right and you've felt like thatbefore.
No, definitely, those thingshave come up and it's meaningful
, Because when you have thataccomplishment, like what she
felt at the finish line, dudesmiles for days.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Yeah, I definitely feel that way about racing, for
sure.
But I'd say that, like, thatfeeling mostly comes from the
podcast.
Like well, cause it kind ofjust started off as like a you
know, we'll just do this for funand see where it goes and stuff
, and now it's, I think about iton a daily, you know.
So You're passionate about it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:26):
Yeah, yes, well, that's the reason why she's
cheating with it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Yeah, yeah, when you're passionate about
something, it's not easy to besuccessful, but it makes you
strive to want to be successful.
Hey, so let's, let's ask.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Sam, this question.
So when you're passionate aboutsomething, you have to, you
want to learn about it, right,it right.
Yes, and I told you today thatI thought your path should be a
little bit different than doingrace recaps.
Right, sam?
What would you like to see froman interview from bella, like
if she was going to take twohours out of her life to
interview somebody?
Do you think it should be indepth?

(01:37:58):
Do you think it should besurface level?
Do you think it should be aboutracing?
Do you think it should be abouthealth fitness?
Like, how do you like seesomething like where Bella's
going?

Speaker 7 (01:38:07):
I definitely fall for the in, like the in-depth ones.
Um, I think it was, I watchedit like two years ago, but it's
one that I still think aboutevery once in a while.
But it's that one, that oneYouTube about Brian Deegan where
it really goes into like hishistory and his life and stuff
like that that one that likethings like that really resonate
with with me personally.
But I also am not really asurface level you, you know type

(01:38:27):
I don't really gravitate tothings like that.
But anything that's in depth,like like the guys prior to even
me coming on, they had a lot ofgreat information about you
know things like where they gotthe information from and then
passing it on to you, I thinkthat like things like that are
really cool yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
See, that's what people want.
You gotta do it, follow yourpath yeah, so do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Yeah.
Do you got anything to ask her?

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
uh, no, I just wanted to see, like, what she thought
of the race, right, like so, um,I don't want to call you like a
beginner or a novice oranything like that.
I am here to the guests thatare on the show before, right,
like we've got some reallyprofessional co-drivers how did
you see the track and how didyou feel like the pace was Like,
what were your, I don't know,what was your overall feeling of

(01:39:13):
how the race went?
And my second, my follow-upquestion is is going to be what
do you think you could have donebetter?

Speaker 7 (01:39:20):
Of course.
So the overall pace I felt Iknow that you know Jacob wanted
to really let it go, butconsistency, I felt like was
going to get us to the finishline and I know a lot of people
go in with like checkers orwreckers type of a mentality on
it and I just I had an internalgoal and it was to get Jacob as
close to Todd as possible andgoing into it I I take I took

(01:39:47):
what Erica had said, cause shehad given me a lot of pointers,
cause she's done Vegas to Renomultiple times, and she said
that last 50 miles is gruelingand I think I like
subconsciously internalize that,cause that last 50 miles I got
my second wind and that's kindof when Jacob was kind of
getting in his head a little bit, just cause that last section
was gnarly, like with the rocksand everything, and we thought

(01:40:07):
that somebody in our class wascoming up on us and we just
really dialed in and stuck to itand you know he listened and
and even though he was gettinghis head about whether the car
was going to fall apart or not,it was just keeping him calm and
being like dude, we're going todo this, we're going to get
there and we did, and that'swhat was so incredible about it.
And I think that with Ericaplanting that seed, saying that

(01:40:28):
it was the last grueling, I mean, I think that that really kind
of sent us home Things that Ican do better is definitely
learning my lefts and rights alot better, but I think that's
what I mean.
I mean it did make sense whereeverything was.
You know you couldn't go rightor you couldn't go left, but he
understood the concept.
But I do.

(01:40:49):
I reviewed a lot of otherpeople's notes and I know that I
can do better notes.
When talking to John Bray, whoco-drives for Todd, he said that
sometimes less is more andthere was in the beginning
section.
I know I went really heavy onit.
Towards the middle I was kindof mediocre and towards the end
there was just certain thingsthat I wanted to make sure that
I marked and I think that I Itotally agree with him that less

(01:41:10):
is more, because sometimes Ican get really muddy on the
screen, um, and then justcalling out dangers a little bit
better.
But Jacob was really dialed inon everything.
So, yeah, and together.
You know, prior to this I hadseen and talked to, you know
other co-drivers and things likethat with him and they had
given me some pointers and wejust worked so well together and

(01:41:33):
there was just certain sectionsthat we were so dialed and it
was crisp and it was clean and Icouldn't have asked for a
better driver to be thrown inwith, because that's my first
time ever riding with Jacob aswell, and the fact that we just
had so much trust and confidencein each other was really,
really amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
You realize that you just ruined the whole family's
week because Jacob's going tohave all this confidence.
Now he's going to be walkingaround the house all high and
mighty with everybody, right?

Speaker 7 (01:41:57):
No, todd's knocking him down.
He's like no, this is whatfirst place looks like Todd said
remember who's on top.
What's crazy about Todd's too,is they had cooling issues too,
so they couldn't go over like6,000 RPM Then at one point they
were on their side.
Yeah, that's crazy.
They had like a 20 minute gapon us and I think we finished

(01:42:20):
like four minutes or fiveminutes after they did, but they
were on their side for a littlebit there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
We were rooting for you guys on our way back to
vegas.
Yeah, we were like watching thelive timing like, oh they got
it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:33):
They got it, yeah, and they're.
Oh, fam, the family, they'realready talking trash in the
comments.
I told you look where youstarted sam, you should have
heard it all weekend.
It was amazing.
So Todd and Jen took all of usto Lake Tahoe on Sunday or
yesterday, uh, and then I, ajand I flew back to Wisconsin

(01:42:55):
today, but just the whole familyatmosphere is just amazing.
It was what was so cool andsomething that you know that I
love watching because I nevergot to have it is, you know,
seeing a father and son dosomething together, compete and
then being a part of it and helpit, help it to be achieved
Right.
So first and second placefather and son is amazing.

(01:43:16):
But what else was really cool isso Todd's parents were also
there and Todd's dad was likeone of the first people to hug
me as soon as I got out of thecar.
So it's like you had threegenerations right there.
And you know, I don't have anyliving grandparents.
My dad is 74 and he's a farmer.
He's not going to be getting ina race car.
So to see the family, you know,work together and then create

(01:43:38):
an extended family as well.
Like the pit crew, everybody.
We're just.
We're all so close now and it'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
Doesn't that come out of?

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
your heart.
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 7 (01:43:49):
Oh, but dude did your dad get to watch live?
He didn't know.
Oh no, he he's still trying tounderstand why I did it because,
you know, 12 hours in a racecar.
He's like I don't get it, Idon't get it.
He looked at, he looked at myhelmet and he saw like the
pumper connector, you know, andhe's like, oh, you got speakers
in there and I was like oh,that's wild but this is the

(01:44:14):
perspective that we need to likeopen up, and sam will agree
with this when I talk about itand this is actually a

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
good, a good comment to make for her in her job
position, especially with uh, anathlete manager.
Having the ability to shareyour experience, sit in the car
with you on a live stream andeducate your father or educate
anybody for that matter on whodoesn't know what it's about and
they can feel the same emotionsthat you're explaining to us

(01:44:42):
here is exactly what we want totry to do to help grow this
off-road industry that we alllove so much.

Speaker 7 (01:44:48):
Yes, yes, for sure.
I just did.
You read Jacob's comment, Ifelt bad.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
I think I peed on Paul's shoes at the finish.
I didn't know he was rightthere.
No, he did not.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
That's funny, it's funny, but you know who's going
to get their ass kicked laterafter all this jacob.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
I think I gotta do a review on jacob now jim senior
doesn't mess around man that'spretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Uh, overall, what did you think about the, the race
and the experience all in all atall for you, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:45:27):
I mean like for the whole time living your life I,
yeah, I, it's hard to put itinto words, it's euphoric, it's
something that you know, you,you can dream about, you can
think about, you can have littlethoughts go through your head
and stuff like that.
And I think that's what.
I didn't have any expectationsgoing into this I.

(01:45:48):
I didn't know what I didn't, Ididn't want to, I didn't want to
make an assumption, because Ididn't want to have something in
the back of my head whileeverything was going on that
would ruin the present or ruinthe experience that I was having
.
And it's it's unlike anythingelse and it feels almost like
it's like the first time, likethe first time driving a car or

(01:46:09):
the first time you know youdon't have an expectation about
it.
Now that you have it, now youhave this, this feeling that is
inexplainable and you just wantto share it with everybody and
you want everyone to feel thisway.
But the only way to do that isto convey your experience and
then, hopefully, they just goand they go to a race or they
watch a race or they participatein some way, shape or form.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Yeah, that's kind of what George is doing here with
the live streaming and stuff,kind of getting everyone to have
their different like you know,the outside people that can't
really look in the cabin and belike what's going on in here,
you know they're just watchingfrom the stands or they're
watching from numbers on thelive scoring.
So it's it's really cool tobring outside people in, but

(01:46:53):
especially like, show them thesport.
Yeah, that everyone says, thatwe all love yeah, it's, it's
definitely.

Speaker 7 (01:46:59):
it's incredible, and um was it that there was
something else that I was goingto say in regard to what we were
talking about, but it just leftmy brain Crap.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Always happens to me.

Speaker 7 (01:47:16):
Well, I read Jacob's comments saying my personal, as
I was thinking it ADD is likestronger now?

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
No, yeah, I think it's pretty cool, though, like
even last year too, like youwent and traveled to oklahoma
from mid-america to I'm prettysure that was last year yes, to
um kind of go out there and doyou know, for work reasons and
stuff, but to even kind of seethe short course and then go
into the desert perspective,like what do you think about
that?
Like what's your favorite typeof style of racing?

Speaker 7 (01:47:45):
desert for sure.
It's just so much.
There's so much more that Ifeel and that's not against
nothing, against short course.
Short course looks like it's,it's like combat fighting for me
, like it looks like you're justgonna go, you're gonna like try
to beat and you're everyone'sso close together.
But with desert racing, withlike the staggered starts and
just the endurance part of it,it's see, it's a lot of mental.

(01:48:06):
Like there's a lot of mental,there's a lot of straightaways,
there's a lot of opportunity foryou to kind of wander in your
head, whereas short course itfeels like you have to stay
focused, you have to staypresent and you have to make
sure that you're not going toget nerfed or sent some other
direction.
So I think desert just becauseof the challenge that goes along
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
Yeah, especially the challenge and the mental blocks
that you have to fightconstantly yeah, just that
mental game yeah, it's no, I'mjust for it.

Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
I love it too and that's the other thing I was
surprised about.
I never once got in my headabout anything.
There was never like andusually which is strange because
you know it's a stereotype thatwomen overthink everything but
there was never the moment whereI was actually anywhere else
but where I needed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
And I think maybe that's so hard it is.
It is really hard.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
That's so difficult to do.
You should be proud of that,Sam, because that's like I don't
know what's that movie wherethey're like squirrel, that's me
Like I can never say that'snormally how I am is squirrel
and like.

Speaker 7 (01:49:05):
Even when uh drew one of the guys in the pit,
normally how I am is squirreland like.
Even when uh drew one of theguys in the pit, he was like
upside down in the car fixingthe steering rack.
Like no point did I like wander.
At that point, while we weresitting at that pit, I was like
all right, so we have to go here, here and here.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
That's super cool staying on your a game.

Speaker 7 (01:49:21):
I love it yeah, like Jacob said, that's us out of the
car.
Out of the car, we're justcomplete squirrel and everything
.
But maybe that's why it was fun, because we were having
squirrel moments in the car, butit was still focused on the
race yeah well, when thatadrenaline gets pumping it does
something to like the adhd andit just calms everything down.

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
It's super nice we thrive in chaos yeah, yes hey
wait, is there anything likewhat you were saying, though?
Like would you have changedanything?
Like, would you have doneanything different?

Speaker 7 (01:49:53):
or would you like oh, you know what I learned a lot
from that like I shouldn't dothat or I should do this better
honestly, george, I learned somuch from every aspect of every
part of that race, like justcalling out and understanding
the driver and understanding thecar itself and how, like when
to call out turns, how to callout turns, how it breaks, how it

(01:50:14):
feels, and just every littlemovement.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
I mean the whole experience was learning and I
just I want to learn more yeah,props to you for sure for going
out there and not expectinganything, just having a good
time.

Speaker 7 (01:50:30):
Yeah, I mean I didn't know anything going into it.
So it's not like I was going topretend like I knew anything.
I just wanted to be a spongeand absorb it all.
I had the basics down enough tobe dangerous and to understand
what my goal was and what theexpectation of you know my role
is in the car and to keep notonly myself safe but Jacob safe
and the car safe, and to keepeverything together.
I knew that needed to happen,but everything outside of that

(01:50:53):
was just pure education.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
What could you have done to be taught what could
have been the move Hindsight's20-20.

Speaker 7 (01:51:02):
Working front deck yeah, solid steering rack and I
think that, honestly, after thatsteering rack went out, we went
really conservative yeah Ithink if that hadn't happened at
like pit three todd, I see thatthat's the reason I asked that

(01:51:25):
question I honestly, if we wouldhave had a perfect car, knowing
his issues, but we didn't knowhis.
That's the reason I asked thatquestion Honestly, if we would
have had a perfect car, knowinghis issues, but we didn't know
his issues.
So that's what did Jacob justsay?

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
For sure the steering rack yeah.
Yeah, it's hilarious.
I love the banter back andforth.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
That's why I just wanted to start a little bit of
a Y'all should have met at thehouse, russell, everybody's
hilarious.
I love a banter back and forth.
That's why I just wanted tostart a little bit of a Y'all
should have met at the house,russell, everybody's coming.
What do you think about youguys teaming up one of these
days?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
I think that'd be a gnarly idea.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
Dude, I've always been in.
Bella's corner.
I'm always in Bella's corner,yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
I love that yeah, there you go.
I love that.
Yes, you guys, you know whatyou guys should do is plan a
race to do together and thenplan a podcast the monday after
that race or the wednesday afterthat race, and you guys can
just take over that whole weekabsolutely down.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
I'm so down for that we gotta, we gotta figure out
something like that yeah,totally let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
I don't want to pull like a girl card, but I think
it's very important, especiallyin situations like this, because
I'm learning so much from youguys on how to handle yourself,
how to, um, basically be patient, like you guys are talking
about patience a lot and whatkind of stuff that could you
give as advice to younger girlsthat want to get into this sam
don't be't be afraid.

Speaker 7 (01:52:47):
It's intimidating.
It's very intimidating cominginto a male-dominant Because, I
mean, as many women are in thissport and as many women are
participating in things likethis, it's still primarily
male-dominated.
And I think, just not thinkingabout it and just going for it
and being confident in who youare and understanding that you

(01:53:08):
also want the same thing thatthey do, and I don't want to say
like removing gender out of it,but kind of removing gender out
of it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Yeah, I agree, and you like, the ratios are
changing, right, and I thinkthat's.
I think that's super cool, butI also think that there needs to
be staple athletes and staplewomen that really try to make it
so that everybody understandsthat it's possible, right?
Because if you're giving an oddor you're saying yes, no, all
these things, it doesn't reallygive that much confidence to the

(01:53:36):
new up and comers, right?
So I think you guys are doing afantastic job, both you and
Philip.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
I also will say thick skin, because there's going to
be situations.
Good point, yeah, I definitelyagree and never take anything
anything personally.
My brother made me read thefour agreements like four years
ago, yeah, and that book reallysent everything home like you
cannot take anything personallyand you cannot make any
assumptions.
You can't just assume that youknow somebody's saying something

(01:54:00):
about you because they could betalking about you know a
different, like colored shoethat somebody's wearing or
something they're like not.
You can't have that in yourhead that there's an assumption
that because you're a female inthis industry, that somebody's
saying something, you just gotto go into it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
Not make assumptions and don't take it personally and
just do what you came there todo but I also think it's whether
you represent yourself tooright and it doesn't matter
whether it's a girl or a guy,but, like I think, for girls
it's a little bit tougher andyou have to represent yourself a
little bit stronger.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I think for girls it's a little bit tougher and
you have to represent yourself alittle bit stronger.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Yeah, I think definitely going into a
hard-headed sport too, where,yeah, it is fully I mean not
fully, but no, you're right, thehard-headed sport has actually
been bothering me a little bitlately and Sam.
I don't know if you've beengetting this.
Maybe it's like a full moonthing or something, but people
know too much, like they need tobe able to be a sponge.
They need to be able to askquestions, like you don't need
to know everything.
The way that you're going togrow, the way that you're going
to get better, is to open upyour perspective and actually

(01:54:56):
listen and look forward.
And I've been seeing a lot ofpeople lately that have been
nope, I don't know what I'mdoing.
It's like uh no Things change.

Speaker 7 (01:55:08):
Everything changes every single day and, like even
what Ryan and Travis were sayingin the beginning, I gained.
I got so much out of that andof course I was going to.
You know, all these peopleprior to me coming on are very
experienced in multiple facetsof the racing community.
There's so much education thatyou can take from just those
people, from just those likewhat was it?
15 minutes, 30 minutes fromeach of them?

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
there's so much one conversation could help an
entire race, and not many peoplelook at it like that.

Speaker 7 (01:55:34):
Well, the one conversation I had with sarah
and it was like 15 minutes.
I was in mitchell, south dakota, about to get on my bike and
she called me about somethingunrelated and that whole
conversation changed myeducation for the following week
with er.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:48):
Yeah, she's being open to it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.
Hey, do you mind if I ask you abusiness question, because
we're going to have asponsorship summit tomorrow and
I want to be able to explainsome of the stuff like from an
outsider's perspective.

Speaker 7 (01:56:10):
What is some of the most valuable stuff that people
can do to get sponsors inoff-road racing?
I really really like whenracers will send me a racer deck
that has all of the informationthat I could ever need so
photos, previous race results,who their current sponsors are.
Social media I know that it'sannoying and we hate posting on
it and it's a lot of tediouseffort, but it does help, and so

(01:56:33):
if you have an active socialmedia, make sure to list that.
And then just good contact info.
And then also, what are youlooking for from us?
That's always good to know,because some I mean I've had a
lot I've had some people contactjust to put a sticker on the
car.
They don't really want anything.
It's good to know because some,I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
I've had a lot.
I've had some people contactjust to put a sticker on the car
.
They don't really want anything.
It's like, well, what, whyMyself?
Personally, I'm going to be oneof the guests on there, but I'm
only going to be talking abouttechnology, and that technology
actually goes into stuff likewhat Sam was talking about,
about representing yourselfdigitally, whether it's on

(01:57:16):
social media, whether it's onYouTube, whatever, having live
streams, interfacing withpromoters and all of these
different things.
So I think there's a lot ofvalue in that.
We're going to talk about stufflike what sam said about decks
and different things like that.
Um, I just want to keep tellingyou guys about it because I
want to see people come to thesummit tomorrow, because I want
the industry to grow.

Speaker 7 (01:57:36):
My whole time to be there yeah, my whole goal by
starting the dirt life was tohelp grow the industry, so this
is one of the tools we got youhelped grow the industry with me
because if it wasn't for yourpodcast that you did with Jen,
we wouldn't have known about ourwhole situation here so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
We try it, but you're doing a really good job, Sam.
You're not just helpingyourself, you're not just being
a co-driver in the passengerseat racing, you're helping
other athletes.
You're doing all kinds of stuffin the business.
You're supporting differentracers, you're coming on the
podcast and talking to us aboutoff-road racing you're doing.

Speaker 7 (01:58:15):
You're a role model to me.
Yes, boom, stop.
You inspire me.
I was literally gonna tell youthat.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
That you inspire me hey, I was gonna ask how's the
puppy because you were gone forso long, cricket.

Speaker 7 (01:58:25):
Cricket, he's here.
My dad actually brought him tothe airport and he howled.
He was howling in the truck.
He was so excited to see me.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
What did?

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
the puppies say when you guys got back, where did you
bring them?

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Oh, we brought them.
We bring them to every race.
He sits at the pit.

Speaker 7 (01:58:45):
Cricket was at the mint.
He was not at Vegas Arena arena.
I was like I can't put that onsomebody for 12 hours yeah, yeah
yeah, when it's a little price,it's a little bit easier.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
Yeah, yeah yeah for sure, thank you so much for
coming on.
It was so cool talking to youin depth on the surface.
I love it.
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
What's next for?

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Sam, it's on your list.

Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
What's next is Sam's Sports Super Show Prep.
Oh, I love that.
We know it goes into that.
We've got an event seasoncoming up For Evolution Power
Sports.
I'm not only the sales manager,but I'm also an event
coordinator and a sponsorshipliaison.
We have Glamis every singlemonth October, november,
december.
Then we had the King of theHammers.

(01:59:30):
We have a event in Oklahoma inOctober.
There also might be somethingelse in October.
Okay.
No sleep Jacob has asked me toco-drive for Laughlin too, so
I'll be there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Yay, super cool, super stoked for you.

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
Don't hang up just yet.

Speaker 7 (01:59:50):
Tacos or hot dogs.
Tacos OK, why don't you answerjust one question?

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
OK what's the next one?
We're going to go down thewhole list.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
OK.

Speaker 7 (01:59:57):
Chicken or carne asada.
Wait, say that one againChicken or carne asada, carne
asada.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Do the river?

Speaker 7 (02:00:04):
River.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
River Action shots or still shots.
Action yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
Three-wheeler or quad .
I really want to do somethingstupid on a three-wheeler.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
You know they're called death machines right,
yeah, that's why I want to do itPizza rolls or jalapeno poppers
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Poppers Coffee or tea Coffee.

Speaker 7 (02:00:28):
Favorite movie?
Oh so I heard you say this.
Coffee or tea favorite movie?
Oh so I heard you say this Ihave two favorite movies and
these are like my go to's.
It's triple x with Vin Diesel,okay okay.
And the Italian job I've neverseen that movie dude.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
Mine is Requiem for a Dream, salt and Sea.
And what was the other one?
Crap, I forgot.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
I also like the Departed, the Departed's good.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Instagram or Facebook Insta.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Yeah, what about if it was Instagram or TikTok?

Speaker 7 (02:01:01):
I still do Insta, me too.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Let's see here If you could have one superpower,
because Ryan said it would be.

Speaker 7 (02:01:14):
I heard him say see into the future.
I wouldn't want that.
Not a chance.

Speaker 2 (02:01:19):
You wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (02:01:19):
No, I would want the ability.
That's so cheesy, but I wouldwant the ability to take grief
away for a certain amount oftime.
That's a really good one.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Yeah, that's a soulful one right there yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
I really like that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
Mine's, mine's way later, mine's teleport, yeah
Cause, then I can just get, justwear it fast.

Speaker 9 (02:01:39):
I don't got to drive, that's legit, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
That would be so heavy though.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
What if you could really get into people's minds?

Speaker 7 (02:01:49):
I would love that that would be so jacked up, Dude
, I don't even know if you wouldwant to be in here.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like a hamster and araccoon and a squirrel and
they're playing poker and forsome reason there's a Ferris
wheel.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
That was a perfect explanation.
I understood that.
Know, that was a perfectexplanation.
I understood that completely.
It makes total sense, netflixor YouTube.

Speaker 7 (02:02:13):
Did you say Netflix or YouTube?
Yes, it's YouTube in themorning and Netflix at night.

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Videos or photos.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
Photos Okay, retro, yeah, black and white or color
color, yeah, color.

Speaker 7 (02:02:36):
Most memorable race actually, the mint, because it
was my first.
Okay, it was my first, Iactually have it.
I got a tattoo um of hunter sthompson, because you know fear
and loathing in las vegas, andit says faster, faster, until
the thrill of speed overcomesthe fear of death how rad.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
That is so cool I did that after the minute I feel
like this question is going tolike totally negate what she
just said, because that wasmeaningful.
Favorite snack.

Speaker 7 (02:03:12):
Trying to think like what I've snacked on.
I'm just gonna say Uncrustables, because I just keep in the
freezer and that's like just mygo-to.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
Racer go-to.
Every racer I know lovesUncrustables Supercross or
motocross.
Supercross is fun to watch, Iagree.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
What other form of racing would you like to try and
open up your mind?

Speaker 7 (02:03:31):
there's a lot of racing you know, the bug stuff
seems so fun, but it looks soyeah, but it looks so painful at
the same time we just did class11 testing yesterday morning.

Speaker 2 (02:03:46):
Oh, my god, like it was so like because we put a
live stream system on class 11and you're like looking at a
driver on the track, you're like, oh, it looks so fun, it's like
not that bad.
And then you look at the livestream you're like, oh, we're
back.

Speaker 7 (02:03:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, maybe that's why it's so
appealing right now, because Istill have a pretty decent back.
Yeah, um other than that, likeI don't know, 4,800 stuff seems
fun.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
You're all about off-road dude.
You can do anything, Whateveryou can do.
You can do drag boats.
You can do anything Monstertrucks.

Speaker 7 (02:04:15):
I'm not a massive water person, so that doesn't
really get me.
My brother does like car stuffand he does like rallies, so I
don't you know siblings need tostay in their own categories or
else it gets a little gnarlywhat about if you could combine
two?

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
you can do hooligans.
Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (02:04:35):
Yeah, speedboat or dragster, dragster chips and
guacamole, or french fries andketchup.
It's final one chips and guaclet's go well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
Thank you so much for being on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
I really appreciate it thank you I do think that you
guys should do, uh, maybe comeup with some sort of plan, like
I suggested yeah, we'll racetogether or maybe in the
opposite uh format or whatever,but still, I think that you guys
have some good things to talkabout too yeah, we can tear it
up but still, I think you guyshave some good things to talk
about too.

Speaker 7 (02:05:10):
Yeah, we can tear it up bye.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
Sam bye guys thank you, sam.
Thank you so much, man.
Tonight's show was pretty cool,so one of the things that I
will say Bella is.
I love having race recaps rightand I love talking with all the
guys, but a lot of the stuffthat you and Sam just talked
about really hits me in the soul, so I think we should actually
keep going with this same typeof context, right.

Speaker 6 (02:05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
So thank you guys all very much for watching, Please.
We just posted on I think itwas on the Dirt Life Show.
It might have been onStarStream, but go check out the
Instagram and join us fortomorrow's sponsorship summit.
Thank you very much to the guysat Maxis for doing all that they
did for that final 48.
That was just insanely cool tosee.
Like I can't tell you how muchI think companies should give

(02:05:55):
back like this to all of theracers.
It is so cool that they justfocused on the racers.
It wasn't an athlete program,it wasn't any.
It was just to give back to theracers.
Like it doesn't get any betterthan that.
So, uh, if you're a company outthere, please put some effort
into thinking about that stuff.
Thank you very much, bella, forbeing so flexible.
You did a really good job onthe show tonight and thank you

(02:06:16):
everybody else for watching.

Speaker 3 (02:06:17):
Thank you to everyone who watches.
We do this all for you, so itwas fun being co-host for a
little bit, but I'll let youknow when Bell's Corner gets up
and running again.
Why not?

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
You're up and running all the time.
Thanks to the guys at KMCWheels, max's Tires, shark
Therapy, elvish Power Sports,zolinger Racing Products, vision
, canopy and Starstream, we willsee you guys, next time Bye.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
Thanks for listening to the Dirt Life Show.
See you next time.

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