March 4, 2021 • 24 mins
Part three, the final section of our in-depth conversation with Jack Kendall from DSNY Newscast. In this segment we discuss what it is like to cover The Walt Disney Company as a YouTuber and the pitfalls and joys of reporting on Disney Theme Parks.
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Sean Nyberg (00:06):
Welcome to the Disney beat a podcast brought to
you by The DisInsider.com. Myname is Sean Nyberg and I will
be covering all of the Disneyheadlines to keep you informed
as you start your week. Hellothere This is Sean Nyberg and
(00:27):
this is a very special editionof the Disney beat podcast. I
recently had the pleasure ofspeaking with one of the most
popular and beloved Disneyyoutubers around jack Kendall
from dsny newscast. Ourconversation lasted two and a
half hours and we covered a widerange of topics. I released the
conversation in three parts Ipreviously released part one,
(00:48):
where we focused on Disney themeparks and part two where we
discussed Disney plus upcomingDisney films and The Walt Disney
Company as a business. Thisepisode is part three and here
we are going to look at Jack'sYouTube channel dsny newscast
and talk about the pitfalls andjoys that come with being a
Disney YouTuber. We also look atthe different styles of news
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coverage and how one stands outin a crowded field. So sit back
and enjoy part three of myconversation with jack Kendall
from dsny newscast already inprogress. All right, so let's do
a little bit about the dsnynewscast. So you know, just give
me the Give me the let me justtell you real quick. The reason,
you know when I got into this,and I started really looking at
the YouTube channels forinformation, I mean, your videos
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just stand out aesthetically.
Like they're just, they're justa try. I mean not to be creepy,
like they're attractive to lookat, in the sense that you've got
good colors, you've got goodlighting, like is that something
that's important to you?
Jack DSNY (01:42):
Well, I mean, I've got graphic design past. So like
when I look at everything on thechannel, like even the dark wall
in the background, likeoriginally, if you actually go
right back to the very beginningof my channel back in April
2017, you'll notice I was stoodin front of a cream, and very
quickly, I was like, Yes, needto do something with the
contrast, you know, to makemyself pop a bit more out from
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the background. So I was like,I'll paint the wall, dark gray.
And it makes everything elsepop, you know, the colors pop up
more and things like that. Sojust a matter of standpoint.
Yeah, the colors and the brandaesthetics really matters with a
YouTube channel, I feel and andthen it's also just persistence,
dedication, and just thefrequency to get those videos
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out to build that audience tobegin with. And don't sometimes
just
Sean Nyberg (02:31):
sometimes, yeah, sometimes you just got can't be
you can't always be in the moodto make videos, right. But you
just have to write because youhave
Jack DSNY (02:38):
this this past year has been pretty difficult to be
honest, going up and down tryingto you know, as it has been in
February of the pandemic, buttrying to find the motivation to
be nimble and positive aboutsome of the parts of which you
can't always be. And thenpersonally, it's been a bit of a
difficult year, lots ofgrandparents. So that was that
was pretty difficult, but alsojust the COVID things in
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general, you know it, and thenthe election cycle and
everything, it was just all itgets difficult sometimes to stay
dedicated and write the scriptsand get the videos out.
Sean Nyberg (03:09):
Well, especially because you're on such a
positive channel, right? Likeit's one thing if you if your
whole job was to be complainedabout things, but you're such an
upbeat guy, at least you know,according to your videos, you
got you feel like you feel thatstress to maintain that.
Jack DSNY (03:20):
Well, you see, the thing is, it's the I don't ever
see it as positive and negativeit is energy. Like I don't like
to look low energy in a video Idon't like to be like over the
top and energy wise in front ofa camera because it comes across
as fake. Like, hi there. Yeah,haha, you know, please watch me
that kind of like manic kind ofpersonality, I don't like that
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kind of feel. So I try and justbe level headed energy because
you know, you don't want to seesomeone at the end of their
workday, you want to see someonewho looks like they're a bit
more engaged with what they'retalking about. And, and then I
provide just honest, if I don'tlike singing, I'll say I don't
like it. But I always try andprovide a more a better way of
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doing it. Well, it's like theold Walt Disney quote, which
was, you know, was never used tolike, people who would just
slashed down an idea. He waslike, if you're going to slash
down an idea, give me a betterone. Don't just come to
negatives come to me with anegative, but also an
alternative. And that's what Itry and do my videos. So if I
don't like being in the parks,which I'm important on news
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wise, I'll always be like thisis a better way that they could
possibly do it. So hopefullythat keeps it kind of upbeat and
a bit more positive than justhaving an agenda which showed us
what do you think what do youwould you say your point of
view,
Sean Nyberg (04:35):
what do you think?
I mean, we kind of covered it,but what do you think that
separates? You know, what's yourbrand?
Jack DSNY (04:40):
So this past year has made me think a lot about this
because obviously, the newslowed down all this sort of
stuff happened and I thought tomyself, What can make me
different to everyone else,everyone else started to cover
the news and it's the differenceof me as I explained the news, I
like to try and pull peoplealong for the ride. Not just be
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like, here's a headline. And youknow, people who watch it,
depending on how successful I amexplaining the news, hopefully
views will match it. But Ialways try and, you know, let
we're going to start at acertain level, and we're going
to talk at this certain level,I'm going into a video with the
understanding that most peopleknow roughly what I'm talking
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about. And we can just start todive straight into it, as I say
in the videos, but try andexplain the news.
Sean Nyberg (05:29):
No, that's, that's great. You know, there's a lot
of ones. There's some people whowalk the parks and that's the
thing and that's great. There'sother people who just are you
know, serial complainers, andyou know, not my cup of tea, but
that's their thing. You know,um, there's an audience I just
love some
Jack DSNY (05:41):
people who who want then you know, they want a bit
more criticism of Disney like Iwill get critical of Disney when
I feel it's warranted. But Idon't feel like many people are
Disney fan because they hate thecompany. Sure. You sometimes
gotta separate your love of thebrands and love of the company
(06:02):
because the company is a companyyou know?
Sean Nyberg (06:05):
Do you ever get feedback that you're too easy on
them?
Jack DSNY (06:10):
No, I never get I never get any of that sort of
stuff. I never get calledanything like what would be
called a cheerleader of Disneyor anything like that i
Sean Nyberg (06:20):
corporatist Yeah, like
Jack DSNY (06:22):
you know, yeah, that sort of thing. I mean, with the
whole Gina Carano thing recentlyI've had a couple of comments
being like you know, you knowfire Kathleen Kennedy higher
back Jean. I'm not going to stopmy news videos for a while now.
Sean Nyberg (06:37):
Oh, good. You said her name. I wasn't gonna bring
her up for tonight.
Jack DSNY (06:41):
500 comments about Gina Carano I want to talk about
Star Wars hotel not necessarilymanage Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah,
Sean Nyberg (06:50):
that's so funny.
You just bring up something likeStar Wars hotel. I'm sure you
get flooded, which is not justbought I mean bots probably
sometimes, but like just superfans. Yeah,
Jack DSNY (06:57):
yeah. Yeah.
Sean Nyberg (06:58):
How are you in your power? I mean, not you because
you're the UK but how are peoplewho have loggers in Orlando
gonna survive if this thingwaits a few more months? I feel
I feel so bad for them. I mean,are they already there almost
every day waiting for a softopen
Jack DSNY (07:11):
case coming out all the time.
Sean Nyberg (07:15):
Maybe you take a picture of the garbage can
Jack DSNY (07:18):
I do you feel from blogging community and the
community I feel for most is thedesign vlogging community.
Because Yeah, but then again,it's kind of part and parcel of
like, when you base your wholebusiness model around being
geographically in a certainplace. That's what's a bit
risky. And like I started upDSI, newscasts from the UK, I
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mean, you know, I went to DisneyWorld, but like, it wasn't a
necessity for me on my channelto be in Walt Disney World every
day. And when people start tolean too hard into that that's
when it gets a little bit yeah
Sean Nyberg (07:50):
well, here's a deep question for you We'll get back
to the partial if you were to ifyou live with your artist with
your girlfriend without Yes Doyou live in Orlando or in
Anaheim? Do you think you wouldhave been as you are your
channel is so much more in depthand you really talk about things
more so than just like here's acool picture I got the no one
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else got now if you live nearthese parks, do you think a
channel would be more like theother one so or do you think you
still would have had the indepth analysis overview
Jack DSNY (08:20):
here's the thing, when so 2019 I spent quite a bit
of time out in America. And Iwas meant to make a move to
America last year. I wasplanning on making a move COVID
hit it to everything sideways.
But um, so then my channel hadto pivot and all of a sudden I
saw the pivot happen. I was likeI already had the itch to start
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doing different types ofcontent. armchair Imagineering
you know, some deeper divetopics more explainable is
getting really into the nittygritty of these news topics.
Because the news is slowingdown. Instead of trying to make
I made a conscious decision tobe like, I'm not going to take
small news items and try andmake them big, which some people
did. You know, it's just whatthey did. You know, I can't say
(09:06):
any way but like if thePolynesians gonna get a new
hotel entrance arch, you know,I'm not going to turn that into
a whole video. I mentioned inthe video, but I'm not turning
into a whole video but otherpeople did decide to turn stuff
into big, big topics. And Iunderstand the reason why
because it's like yeah, lack ofnews. But so I just like sat
(09:26):
back and like I'm gonna makebetter videos. Now your question
about whether is if I was outthere would have made the same
decision. I was already startingto think that way when I was out
there in 2019. I had started thetransition on my channel Stan's
happen. I spent 25 minutes or 20minutes on a Disney plus review
in 2019. When I was actually outin America at the time, and when
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it was released, I didn't get asmany views but I was like I want
to be thorough with with this.
Yeah. The view and Tower ofTerror and stuff like that. I
did like long Form videos then.
So I was already signed to getthe itch, like do more, more in
depth videos and stuff. But you,you do make a point of like it,
it becomes very, it's not lazy,it's, I wouldn't use Word lazy
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at all. But you know, people maythink it's a little bit late and
just go to a park and point acamera. But it becomes very
easy. And I did fall into thatsometimes, you know, if you
don't have a video ready to gofor a certain day, you may be
like, I feel really bad to thisvideo taking longer than usual,
I'll just go to the parks andzero quick live stream, you
know, and, and I did do that acouple of times. And you can
(10:37):
slip into that kind of like,hey, and then live streams make
quite a bit of money. I mightkeep doing live streams. And
it's just like, you fall into itby mistake. Rather than being
like strategical about like whatyou want to actually do with the
direction. But when I doeventually move out to America,
I'm gonna do just as muchcontent inside the studio now,
as I always do. Good. Yeah.
Sean Nyberg (11:01):
Good. No, I, the weight from someone from the
outside is looking at, I gottatell you, it's like, those
people who are there all thetime. That's great. They're like
cable news, right? They're likeCNN or Fox News, whatever. Yeah,
there they are. And like,everything has to be a big deal,
right? Like, Oh, my God, Trumpemail or Biden said this, and is
that and then there's like,you're more like, I don't know
if you guys get it's a PBS thingfrontline, where they like,
(11:22):
we'll talk about like, JamalKhashoggi and Khashoggi and his
death. And then it's more likean hour. And then and then
there's people like, Who's theguy? Kevin perjure? Who will do
like, Yeah, really long. Thoseare great, too. And, and you're
more what I would look for innews like, Yeah, when I'm like,
Oh, I want to know about what'sgoing on with the water
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situation in Flint, Michigan.
I'm like, Okay, this frontlinehalf an hour long special on it,
cuz I want to know about it is,
Jack DSNY (11:50):
it's, it's actually not. Okay, so we're gonna be off
topic. But it's also do like howwe've all grown up with news. So
American news media has verymuch pivoted towards on the
ground in the moment. You know,there's 18 inches of snow in
Texas, breaking news, breakingnews. And when you're covering
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breaking news, you don't havethe flip side of that is yes,
you're breaking news. But youalso don't have all the facts.
And you also don't have the timeto properly think about
something and give a properreaction and, and thoughtful
analysis. When Disney changedCEOs last year, I was at the
time I was on holiday with mygirlfriend. And, and it happened
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and I remember being in a hotelroom at night in Paris and being
like, Oh, god, this has justhappened. We've just done it on
a random Tuesday, March inFebruary. And I wasn't going to
run off to disempowers the nextday and try and film something
in the parks. I was like, I'mgoing to sit on this. People who
got the news have got the news,I'm going to sit on this, I'm
going to think about it, I'mgoing to really have an in depth
look at what happens. And Ipredicted quite a few of the
(12:57):
changes of Alan Bergman andstuff like that. I was like, you
know, he's going to take over,and zeny muku and people like
that, as I spoke about the wholeexecutive change, not just like,
yeah, breaking news, Bob cherrypicks the new CEO. And so it I
think it's a it's a changing ofhow our news media has provided
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us content. And in the UK verymuch. We still have in depth
news reporting like that newspieces, you know, they are five
minute news pieces. And now inAmerica, you know, you can watch
a lot of news pieces on YouTubeand they're like a minute two
minutes. And they're not that indepth. Yeah, but
Sean Nyberg (13:37):
you guys screwed us up with with that taught you
guys you guys invented thetabloid journalism
Jack DSNY (13:41):
Yeah, we also made his name over in the UK and then
we gave you Fox News. So yeah,
Sean Nyberg (13:49):
then he plays it poisoned us too. But I want to
say though, and I'm gonna I'mgonna name one just because and
this is a compliment. I like allears. Right that there are very
opposite of you. Right? They'vegot they've got people who go
out to the parks almost everyday. They do fun challenges. I
mean, like, I don't even Yeah, Idon't think of you guys. You're
both Disney but like, I don'tknow, not one's not better one's
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worse. But like for me, like I'mmaking I'm planning my trip and
I'm such a control freak. I liketo watch Molly walk around
animal kingdom because then likefor me, it helps give me Okay,
so that's really how far thingsare. Yeah. And but then when I
hear like, oh, there's there's achange with the Galactic
starcruiser the Star Wars hotelI'm like, I want to see what
jack has to say about it becausehe's gonna have a really good
(14:32):
breakdown of how the wholebuildings laid out. And so it's
just cool because you guys allcan can exist in the same
universe. And you providedifferent content now within I
think what's cool about you,sorry, real quick, is you are
kind of on your own like, like Isaid, Kevin perjure does some
deep stuff but that's more likehistorical like, you know, our
you know, that one he did aboutthe rock band and Disneyland
(14:54):
like that was cool. I don't
Jack DSNY (14:57):
know how seen Well, yeah, that was a
Sean Nyberg (14:59):
Halcyon Feel Oh, that was Yeah, you don't really
have no one's really up to yourstandard in terms of what you do
the more in depth stuff and Ijust love that you're not on the
ground like trying to fightwith, like, I want to see you
like, do you see that picture ofeveryone the velocity coaster
like? Yeah, well vloggers withthe same camera thing.
Jack DSNY (15:15):
Yeah, I've experienced that. Okay, I didn't
like it. And when Ed cots withilluminations reflections final
night, and it caught forever,the amount of loggers that were
around that part that night,like I didn't even take a video
of illuminations reflections orfinite or Epcot forever? I don't
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think I did. Are you there? Iwas there for, I don't think
I've caught it at coffee. Idon't think I did. Because I was
like, people gonna, I think Imay record it for like a review
later on. But like, I wasn'tgonna post it individually.
because number one is acopyright nightmare. And number
two, I was just like, everyone'sdoing it. And this is very much
this mentality within the Disneycommunity of who's going to be
(15:57):
first. That's the problem. AndYouTube kind of rewards people
who are first, Robin boos whoreally put in the time, and
there are many small creatorsout there who really spend a
huge amount of time working onthis stuff aren't getting the
traction, because they're notfirst, you know, or they're not
(16:20):
as quick at editing, orwhatever. Yeah, it's like muscle
memory, you do get quicker atit. If you if you edit, you
know, longer videos, you do geta bit quicker editing short
videos. That's why I foundanything. But there's so much
just mentality of if you're notfirst, you know, you have
breaking breaking news, thiskind of thing. And when I was
running that train, when I wason that train, I was running,
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running alongside it, whether in2019 and 2018 2017. My life
actually wasn't that good. Like,if I'm being honest, I'm being
really honest, when you'rehaving to find three videos to
do each week. And when youfinish one video, you don't even
get time to look back and thinkI'm proud of that video. And you
are instead thinking about thenext video. Everything becomes
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it just becomes temporary.
Everything becomes
Sean Nyberg (17:11):
an affiliate you never would ever complete. You
never get to like like never,always,
Jack DSNY (17:15):
when's my next hit?
Yeah, they have views. Yeah. AndI feel like that kind of
mentality in the bloggingcommunity is not great for them
the mentality of a lot ofbloggers, because it's all about
well, I need to I need to postvideo every day, cuz you know, I
need my next hit. people rely onme. And if it just, it takes a
lot to be like, I'm going to sitback, I'm going to not be lazy,
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I'm going to sit back and andprovide a really good video. And
I'm going to do a couple oftimes. And yeah, the views are
going to be a bit of a hit. AndI'm going to get a bit of a hit
in terms of monetization aswell. But I am going to have
something which I'm feel a bitmore accomplished about and
proud of. And when I produce avideo now I'm I'm really proud
of the video. But yeah, back in2018, last video, video video
(17:57):
video, it was it was so I justwasn't enjoying the channel as
much because it was so muchabout what's my next film,
what's my next topic, you
Sean Nyberg (18:08):
know? And it and i, you can see that with you you
enjoy, you can tell that you youare comfortable in the skin that
you're in right now. Yeah, likeyou've kind of found your voice.
Jack DSNY (18:17):
Yeah. And I would say that when I was in 2018, or
2018, I wasn't giving as much ofmy voice in videos, because it
was so here's the news, here'sthe headlines, you know, and I
wasn't giving myself like mypage, but I bought my scripts,
and they were like a page and ahalf. Like that was it. And
they're double spaced as well.
Like, you know, it wasn't muchlike I know, a page of a4 for me
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is about three minutes ofvoiceover. And so like I was
doing videos, which are like sixminutes long, that's what the
end and outro and all the otherstuff. Now my videos last like
four pages, I'm like, oh god,that's gonna be a 12 minute
video or 30 minute video, andit's gonna go on and on. But I
know the products better becauseof it. It's I feel like having
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this could be a whole discussionby itself, we should be talking
about Disney park. It is and Ilove it.
Sean Nyberg (19:07):
I think a lot of people in the community actually
have it or they think it. Butyou know, I just think we both
can be politically correct. Andyou just say, you know, those
people who do the instant stuff.
There's an audience for that,and people like it, and maybe
for them, it's not souncomfortable. And maybe that
for some reason, that justbrings them the joy that it
does. But for someone like youand maybe the reason that I
asked you to do an interview isbecause I'm more attracted to
your kind of style. And so toyou and I are like oh my god
(19:30):
living like that and like fivesecond clips are like people
that would be crazy. But somepeople are like God, I don't
want to sit and listen about toa 20 minute video about Of
course, you know, the layout ofremedies, Ratatouille, a
Jack DSNY (19:43):
great film and the beginning when I started doing
these kind of longer form videoswill be all instead of me. I'm
not going to be covering for thethe quick news flash kind of
stuff. And I'm not I think thatthere's always a place of this
kind of like you know this onthe part vlogging kind of stuff.
But I also feel like I want tosay to the rest of the
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community, like, it takes a lotto step back, but it's better
for your mental health if youdo. Because I know a lot of
things stuff that isn't spokenabout is youtubers in general.
You know, we all have like, veryprivileged and lucky to have the
jobs that we have, I'm alwaysgrateful and fortunate for what
I do. But like any job, it,you've got to have a good work.
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Good work life balance, too. Andyou choose one of those things
where you have the fame, the thebeing spotted things like that
you you don't, you can go downthis very dangerous path of
being like, oh, I've got toproduce something every single
day. And just step back, take abreak, and actually enjoy the
(20:49):
break and actually rethink yourchannel direction.
Sean Nyberg (20:53):
I love that. And I want to say like when I when I
start working as a designer, andSkylar like he would send me
like, there'd be like anannouncement like today, like,
new mass policy, and I'll get onHe's like, dude, like, get it to
me later tonight or tomorrow,like, unless we're breaking a
story, because, you know,Schuyler does do some, you know,
that's one thing where you want,but like, hey, like, especially
with the way we you know, I liketo write long things like I'm
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working on I have five storiesthat are half written right now
just because I like that. Butyou know, some people like the,
the short stuff, and a lot ofpeople love to watch it so good
for them
Jack DSNY (21:21):
that way, and Scott is white, like you do will burn
people, like people can onlyrun, you know, full speed for so
long. And I definitely felt thatin 2017. Like, I worked 23
weekends that year. And I didn'tI barely slept like I worked for
three days straight, and Ibarely slept. And like at the
end of it, people were evencommenting on videos. Like you
look tired, like I looked. And Ipretty much conked out for like,
(21:47):
20 hours after that, like Islept for nearly a day, because
you worked, but it's notsustainable. And that's the
thing like you should always tryand find a healthy balance. But
yeah,
Sean Nyberg (21:59):
well, there's so much toxicity in a lot of the
does Twitter, Disney communityand I think some of it is
sexism. I think some of it isracism, I think some of
homophobia, I think some but Ido think a lot of it is this
You're right, this race this ratrace. And this like we don't
like them and they don't likethem. Oh, they got you know, and
it's just it's tribal?
Jack DSNY (22:15):
Yes. Yes, you've got different tribes of different
people being like, Oh, I'm, I'mriding with whoever and it
becomes very much I've got mygang. And, and I also feel that
like, I don't know it, it's justnot a very healthy environment
to constantly live within thatkind of headspace of, of, you
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know, I need to beat whoever youknow, it takes a lot of
willpower and, you know, strongminded outset to like, look at
No, we need to get back toDisney Parks gone.
Sean Nyberg (22:49):
Let's let's get you know, I know. But hey, this is
something that I think justdoesn't get talked about enough
because I think everyone's too.
They don't reflect on themselvesenough to be able to talk about
it anyway. Well, there you haveit. Part Three. The conclusion
of our conversation with jackfrom dsny newscast. I want to
give a huge thank you to jackfor green to speak with me and
cover so many different topics.
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this is a very special editionof the Disney beat podcast. I
recently had the pleasure ofspeaking with one of the most
popular and beloved Disneyyoutubers around jack Kendall
from dsny newscast. Ourconversation lasted two and a
half hours and we covered a widerange of topics. I released the
conversation in three parts Ipreviously released part one,
(00:48):
where we focused on Disney themeparks and part two where we
discussed Disney plus upcomingDisney films and The Walt Disney
Company as a business. Thisepisode is part three and here
we are going to look at Jack'sYouTube channel dsny newscast
and talk about the pitfalls andjoys that come with being a
Disney YouTuber. We also look atthe different styles of news
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coverage and how one stands outin a crowded field. So sit back
and enjoy part three of myconversation with jack Kendall
from dsny newscast already inprogress. All right, so let's do
a little bit about the dsnynewscast. So you know, just give
me the Give me the let me justtell you real quick. The reason,
you know when I got into this,and I started really looking at
the YouTube channels forinformation, I mean, your videos
(01:32):
just stand out aesthetically.
Like they're just, they're justa try. I mean not to be creepy,
like they're attractive to lookat, in the sense that you've got
good colors, you've got goodlighting, like is that something
that's important to you?
Jack DSNY (01:42):
Well, I mean, I've got graphic design past. So like
when I look at everything on thechannel, like even the dark wall
in the background, likeoriginally, if you actually go
right back to the very beginningof my channel back in April
2017, you'll notice I was stoodin front of a cream, and very
quickly, I was like, Yes, needto do something with the
contrast, you know, to makemyself pop a bit more out from
(02:03):
the background. So I was like,I'll paint the wall, dark gray.
And it makes everything elsepop, you know, the colors pop up
more and things like that. Sojust a matter of standpoint.
Yeah, the colors and the brandaesthetics really matters with a
YouTube channel, I feel and andthen it's also just persistence,
dedication, and just thefrequency to get those videos
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out to build that audience tobegin with. And don't sometimes
just
Sean Nyberg (02:31):
sometimes, yeah, sometimes you just got can't be
you can't always be in the moodto make videos, right. But you
just have to write because youhave
Jack DSNY (02:38):
this this past year has been pretty difficult to be
honest, going up and down tryingto you know, as it has been in
February of the pandemic, buttrying to find the motivation to
be nimble and positive aboutsome of the parts of which you
can't always be. And thenpersonally, it's been a bit of a
difficult year, lots ofgrandparents. So that was that
was pretty difficult, but alsojust the COVID things in
(02:58):
general, you know it, and thenthe election cycle and
everything, it was just all itgets difficult sometimes to stay
dedicated and write the scriptsand get the videos out.
Sean Nyberg (03:09):
Well, especially because you're on such a
positive channel, right? Likeit's one thing if you if your
whole job was to be complainedabout things, but you're such an
upbeat guy, at least you know,according to your videos, you
got you feel like you feel thatstress to maintain that.
Jack DSNY (03:20):
Well, you see, the thing is, it's the I don't ever
see it as positive and negativeit is energy. Like I don't like
to look low energy in a video Idon't like to be like over the
top and energy wise in front ofa camera because it comes across
as fake. Like, hi there. Yeah,haha, you know, please watch me
that kind of like manic kind ofpersonality, I don't like that
(03:40):
kind of feel. So I try and justbe level headed energy because
you know, you don't want to seesomeone at the end of their
workday, you want to see someonewho looks like they're a bit
more engaged with what they'retalking about. And, and then I
provide just honest, if I don'tlike singing, I'll say I don't
like it. But I always try andprovide a more a better way of
(04:00):
doing it. Well, it's like theold Walt Disney quote, which
was, you know, was never used tolike, people who would just
slashed down an idea. He waslike, if you're going to slash
down an idea, give me a betterone. Don't just come to
negatives come to me with anegative, but also an
alternative. And that's what Itry and do my videos. So if I
don't like being in the parks,which I'm important on news
(04:22):
wise, I'll always be like thisis a better way that they could
possibly do it. So hopefullythat keeps it kind of upbeat and
a bit more positive than justhaving an agenda which showed us
what do you think what do youwould you say your point of
view,
Sean Nyberg (04:35):
what do you think?
I mean, we kind of covered it,but what do you think that
separates? You know, what's yourbrand?
Jack DSNY (04:40):
So this past year has made me think a lot about this
because obviously, the newslowed down all this sort of
stuff happened and I thought tomyself, What can make me
different to everyone else,everyone else started to cover
the news and it's the differenceof me as I explained the news, I
like to try and pull peoplealong for the ride. Not just be
(05:00):
like, here's a headline. And youknow, people who watch it,
depending on how successful I amexplaining the news, hopefully
views will match it. But Ialways try and, you know, let
we're going to start at acertain level, and we're going
to talk at this certain level,I'm going into a video with the
understanding that most peopleknow roughly what I'm talking
(05:22):
about. And we can just start todive straight into it, as I say
in the videos, but try andexplain the news.
Sean Nyberg (05:29):
No, that's, that's great. You know, there's a lot
of ones. There's some people whowalk the parks and that's the
thing and that's great. There'sother people who just are you
know, serial complainers, andyou know, not my cup of tea, but
that's their thing. You know,um, there's an audience I just
love some
Jack DSNY (05:41):
people who who want then you know, they want a bit
more criticism of Disney like Iwill get critical of Disney when
I feel it's warranted. But Idon't feel like many people are
Disney fan because they hate thecompany. Sure. You sometimes
gotta separate your love of thebrands and love of the company
(06:02):
because the company is a companyyou know?
Sean Nyberg (06:05):
Do you ever get feedback that you're too easy on
them?
Jack DSNY (06:10):
No, I never get I never get any of that sort of
stuff. I never get calledanything like what would be
called a cheerleader of Disneyor anything like that i
Sean Nyberg (06:20):
corporatist Yeah, like
Jack DSNY (06:22):
you know, yeah, that sort of thing. I mean, with the
whole Gina Carano thing recentlyI've had a couple of comments
being like you know, you knowfire Kathleen Kennedy higher
back Jean. I'm not going to stopmy news videos for a while now.
Sean Nyberg (06:37):
Oh, good. You said her name. I wasn't gonna bring
her up for tonight.
Jack DSNY (06:41):
500 comments about Gina Carano I want to talk about
Star Wars hotel not necessarilymanage Oh, yeah, whatever. Yeah,
Sean Nyberg (06:50):
that's so funny.
You just bring up something likeStar Wars hotel. I'm sure you
get flooded, which is not justbought I mean bots probably
sometimes, but like just superfans. Yeah,
Jack DSNY (06:57):
yeah. Yeah.
Sean Nyberg (06:58):
How are you in your power? I mean, not you because
you're the UK but how are peoplewho have loggers in Orlando
gonna survive if this thingwaits a few more months? I feel
I feel so bad for them. I mean,are they already there almost
every day waiting for a softopen
Jack DSNY (07:11):
case coming out all the time.
Sean Nyberg (07:15):
Maybe you take a picture of the garbage can
Jack DSNY (07:18):
I do you feel from blogging community and the
community I feel for most is thedesign vlogging community.
Because Yeah, but then again,it's kind of part and parcel of
like, when you base your wholebusiness model around being
geographically in a certainplace. That's what's a bit
risky. And like I started upDSI, newscasts from the UK, I
(07:39):
mean, you know, I went to DisneyWorld, but like, it wasn't a
necessity for me on my channelto be in Walt Disney World every
day. And when people start tolean too hard into that that's
when it gets a little bit yeah
Sean Nyberg (07:50):
well, here's a deep question for you We'll get back
to the partial if you were to ifyou live with your artist with
your girlfriend without Yes Doyou live in Orlando or in
Anaheim? Do you think you wouldhave been as you are your
channel is so much more in depthand you really talk about things
more so than just like here's acool picture I got the no one
(08:12):
else got now if you live nearthese parks, do you think a
channel would be more like theother one so or do you think you
still would have had the indepth analysis overview
Jack DSNY (08:20):
here's the thing, when so 2019 I spent quite a bit
of time out in America. And Iwas meant to make a move to
America last year. I wasplanning on making a move COVID
hit it to everything sideways.
But um, so then my channel hadto pivot and all of a sudden I
saw the pivot happen. I was likeI already had the itch to start
(08:41):
doing different types ofcontent. armchair Imagineering
you know, some deeper divetopics more explainable is
getting really into the nittygritty of these news topics.
Because the news is slowingdown. Instead of trying to make
I made a conscious decision tobe like, I'm not going to take
small news items and try andmake them big, which some people
did. You know, it's just whatthey did. You know, I can't say
(09:06):
any way but like if thePolynesians gonna get a new
hotel entrance arch, you know,I'm not going to turn that into
a whole video. I mentioned inthe video, but I'm not turning
into a whole video but otherpeople did decide to turn stuff
into big, big topics. And Iunderstand the reason why
because it's like yeah, lack ofnews. But so I just like sat
(09:26):
back and like I'm gonna makebetter videos. Now your question
about whether is if I was outthere would have made the same
decision. I was already startingto think that way when I was out
there in 2019. I had started thetransition on my channel Stan's
happen. I spent 25 minutes or 20minutes on a Disney plus review
in 2019. When I was actually outin America at the time, and when
(09:50):
it was released, I didn't get asmany views but I was like I want
to be thorough with with this.
Yeah. The view and Tower ofTerror and stuff like that. I
did like long Form videos then.
So I was already signed to getthe itch, like do more, more in
depth videos and stuff. But you,you do make a point of like it,
it becomes very, it's not lazy,it's, I wouldn't use Word lazy
(10:13):
at all. But you know, people maythink it's a little bit late and
just go to a park and point acamera. But it becomes very
easy. And I did fall into thatsometimes, you know, if you
don't have a video ready to gofor a certain day, you may be
like, I feel really bad to thisvideo taking longer than usual,
I'll just go to the parks andzero quick live stream, you
know, and, and I did do that acouple of times. And you can
(10:37):
slip into that kind of like,hey, and then live streams make
quite a bit of money. I mightkeep doing live streams. And
it's just like, you fall into itby mistake. Rather than being
like strategical about like whatyou want to actually do with the
direction. But when I doeventually move out to America,
I'm gonna do just as muchcontent inside the studio now,
as I always do. Good. Yeah.
Sean Nyberg (11:01):
Good. No, I, the weight from someone from the
outside is looking at, I gottatell you, it's like, those
people who are there all thetime. That's great. They're like
cable news, right? They're likeCNN or Fox News, whatever. Yeah,
there they are. And like,everything has to be a big deal,
right? Like, Oh, my God, Trumpemail or Biden said this, and is
that and then there's like,you're more like, I don't know
if you guys get it's a PBS thingfrontline, where they like,
(11:22):
we'll talk about like, JamalKhashoggi and Khashoggi and his
death. And then it's more likean hour. And then and then
there's people like, Who's theguy? Kevin perjure? Who will do
like, Yeah, really long. Thoseare great, too. And, and you're
more what I would look for innews like, Yeah, when I'm like,
Oh, I want to know about what'sgoing on with the water
(11:43):
situation in Flint, Michigan.
I'm like, Okay, this frontlinehalf an hour long special on it,
cuz I want to know about it is,
Jack DSNY (11:50):
it's, it's actually not. Okay, so we're gonna be off
topic. But it's also do like howwe've all grown up with news. So
American news media has verymuch pivoted towards on the
ground in the moment. You know,there's 18 inches of snow in
Texas, breaking news, breakingnews. And when you're covering
(12:11):
breaking news, you don't havethe flip side of that is yes,
you're breaking news. But youalso don't have all the facts.
And you also don't have the timeto properly think about
something and give a properreaction and, and thoughtful
analysis. When Disney changedCEOs last year, I was at the
time I was on holiday with mygirlfriend. And, and it happened
(12:35):
and I remember being in a hotelroom at night in Paris and being
like, Oh, god, this has justhappened. We've just done it on
a random Tuesday, March inFebruary. And I wasn't going to
run off to disempowers the nextday and try and film something
in the parks. I was like, I'mgoing to sit on this. People who
got the news have got the news,I'm going to sit on this, I'm
going to think about it, I'mgoing to really have an in depth
look at what happens. And Ipredicted quite a few of the
(12:57):
changes of Alan Bergman andstuff like that. I was like, you
know, he's going to take over,and zeny muku and people like
that, as I spoke about the wholeexecutive change, not just like,
yeah, breaking news, Bob cherrypicks the new CEO. And so it I
think it's a it's a changing ofhow our news media has provided
(13:18):
us content. And in the UK verymuch. We still have in depth
news reporting like that newspieces, you know, they are five
minute news pieces. And now inAmerica, you know, you can watch
a lot of news pieces on YouTubeand they're like a minute two
minutes. And they're not that indepth. Yeah, but
Sean Nyberg (13:37):
you guys screwed us up with with that taught you
guys you guys invented thetabloid journalism
Jack DSNY (13:41):
Yeah, we also made his name over in the UK and then
we gave you Fox News. So yeah,
Sean Nyberg (13:49):
then he plays it poisoned us too. But I want to
say though, and I'm gonna I'mgonna name one just because and
this is a compliment. I like allears. Right that there are very
opposite of you. Right? They'vegot they've got people who go
out to the parks almost everyday. They do fun challenges. I
mean, like, I don't even Yeah, Idon't think of you guys. You're
both Disney but like, I don'tknow, not one's not better one's
(14:11):
worse. But like for me, like I'mmaking I'm planning my trip and
I'm such a control freak. I liketo watch Molly walk around
animal kingdom because then likefor me, it helps give me Okay,
so that's really how far thingsare. Yeah. And but then when I
hear like, oh, there's there's achange with the Galactic
starcruiser the Star Wars hotelI'm like, I want to see what
jack has to say about it becausehe's gonna have a really good
(14:32):
breakdown of how the wholebuildings laid out. And so it's
just cool because you guys allcan can exist in the same
universe. And you providedifferent content now within I
think what's cool about you,sorry, real quick, is you are
kind of on your own like, like Isaid, Kevin perjure does some
deep stuff but that's more likehistorical like, you know, our
you know, that one he did aboutthe rock band and Disneyland
(14:54):
like that was cool. I don't
Jack DSNY (14:57):
know how seen Well, yeah, that was a
Sean Nyberg (14:59):
Halcyon Feel Oh, that was Yeah, you don't really
have no one's really up to yourstandard in terms of what you do
the more in depth stuff and Ijust love that you're not on the
ground like trying to fightwith, like, I want to see you
like, do you see that picture ofeveryone the velocity coaster
like? Yeah, well vloggers withthe same camera thing.
Jack DSNY (15:15):
Yeah, I've experienced that. Okay, I didn't
like it. And when Ed cots withilluminations reflections final
night, and it caught forever,the amount of loggers that were
around that part that night,like I didn't even take a video
of illuminations reflections orfinite or Epcot forever? I don't
(15:35):
think I did. Are you there? Iwas there for, I don't think
I've caught it at coffee. Idon't think I did. Because I was
like, people gonna, I think Imay record it for like a review
later on. But like, I wasn'tgonna post it individually.
because number one is acopyright nightmare. And number
two, I was just like, everyone'sdoing it. And this is very much
this mentality within the Disneycommunity of who's going to be
(15:57):
first. That's the problem. AndYouTube kind of rewards people
who are first, Robin boos whoreally put in the time, and
there are many small creatorsout there who really spend a
huge amount of time working onthis stuff aren't getting the
traction, because they're notfirst, you know, or they're not
(16:20):
as quick at editing, orwhatever. Yeah, it's like muscle
memory, you do get quicker atit. If you if you edit, you
know, longer videos, you do geta bit quicker editing short
videos. That's why I foundanything. But there's so much
just mentality of if you're notfirst, you know, you have
breaking breaking news, thiskind of thing. And when I was
running that train, when I wason that train, I was running,
(16:42):
running alongside it, whether in2019 and 2018 2017. My life
actually wasn't that good. Like,if I'm being honest, I'm being
really honest, when you'rehaving to find three videos to
do each week. And when youfinish one video, you don't even
get time to look back and thinkI'm proud of that video. And you
are instead thinking about thenext video. Everything becomes
(17:08):
it just becomes temporary.
Everything becomes
Sean Nyberg (17:11):
an affiliate you never would ever complete. You
never get to like like never,always,
Jack DSNY (17:15):
when's my next hit?
Yeah, they have views. Yeah. AndI feel like that kind of
mentality in the bloggingcommunity is not great for them
the mentality of a lot ofbloggers, because it's all about
well, I need to I need to postvideo every day, cuz you know, I
need my next hit. people rely onme. And if it just, it takes a
lot to be like, I'm going to sitback, I'm going to not be lazy,
(17:36):
I'm going to sit back and andprovide a really good video. And
I'm going to do a couple oftimes. And yeah, the views are
going to be a bit of a hit. AndI'm going to get a bit of a hit
in terms of monetization aswell. But I am going to have
something which I'm feel a bitmore accomplished about and
proud of. And when I produce avideo now I'm I'm really proud
of the video. But yeah, back in2018, last video, video video
(17:57):
video, it was it was so I justwasn't enjoying the channel as
much because it was so muchabout what's my next film,
what's my next topic, you
Sean Nyberg (18:08):
know? And it and i, you can see that with you you
enjoy, you can tell that you youare comfortable in the skin that
you're in right now. Yeah, likeyou've kind of found your voice.
Jack DSNY (18:17):
Yeah. And I would say that when I was in 2018, or
2018, I wasn't giving as much ofmy voice in videos, because it
was so here's the news, here'sthe headlines, you know, and I
wasn't giving myself like mypage, but I bought my scripts,
and they were like a page and ahalf. Like that was it. And
they're double spaced as well.
Like, you know, it wasn't muchlike I know, a page of a4 for me
(18:37):
is about three minutes ofvoiceover. And so like I was
doing videos, which are like sixminutes long, that's what the
end and outro and all the otherstuff. Now my videos last like
four pages, I'm like, oh god,that's gonna be a 12 minute
video or 30 minute video, andit's gonna go on and on. But I
know the products better becauseof it. It's I feel like having
(19:00):
this could be a whole discussionby itself, we should be talking
about Disney park. It is and Ilove it.
Sean Nyberg (19:07):
I think a lot of people in the community actually
have it or they think it. Butyou know, I just think we both
can be politically correct. Andyou just say, you know, those
people who do the instant stuff.
There's an audience for that,and people like it, and maybe
for them, it's not souncomfortable. And maybe that
for some reason, that justbrings them the joy that it
does. But for someone like youand maybe the reason that I
asked you to do an interview isbecause I'm more attracted to
your kind of style. And so toyou and I are like oh my god
(19:30):
living like that and like fivesecond clips are like people
that would be crazy. But somepeople are like God, I don't
want to sit and listen about toa 20 minute video about Of
course, you know, the layout ofremedies, Ratatouille, a
Jack DSNY (19:43):
great film and the beginning when I started doing
these kind of longer form videoswill be all instead of me. I'm
not going to be covering for thethe quick news flash kind of
stuff. And I'm not I think thatthere's always a place of this
kind of like you know this onthe part vlogging kind of stuff.
But I also feel like I want tosay to the rest of the
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community, like, it takes a lotto step back, but it's better
for your mental health if youdo. Because I know a lot of
things stuff that isn't spokenabout is youtubers in general.
You know, we all have like, veryprivileged and lucky to have the
jobs that we have, I'm alwaysgrateful and fortunate for what
I do. But like any job, it,you've got to have a good work.
(20:28):
Good work life balance, too. Andyou choose one of those things
where you have the fame, the thebeing spotted things like that
you you don't, you can go downthis very dangerous path of
being like, oh, I've got toproduce something every single
day. And just step back, take abreak, and actually enjoy the
(20:49):
break and actually rethink yourchannel direction.
Sean Nyberg (20:53):
I love that. And I want to say like when I when I
start working as a designer, andSkylar like he would send me
like, there'd be like anannouncement like today, like,
new mass policy, and I'll get onHe's like, dude, like, get it to
me later tonight or tomorrow,like, unless we're breaking a
story, because, you know,Schuyler does do some, you know,
that's one thing where you want,but like, hey, like, especially
with the way we you know, I liketo write long things like I'm
(21:13):
working on I have five storiesthat are half written right now
just because I like that. Butyou know, some people like the,
the short stuff, and a lot ofpeople love to watch it so good
for them
Jack DSNY (21:21):
that way, and Scott is white, like you do will burn
people, like people can onlyrun, you know, full speed for so
long. And I definitely felt thatin 2017. Like, I worked 23
weekends that year. And I didn'tI barely slept like I worked for
three days straight, and Ibarely slept. And like at the
end of it, people were evencommenting on videos. Like you
look tired, like I looked. And Ipretty much conked out for like,
(21:47):
20 hours after that, like Islept for nearly a day, because
you worked, but it's notsustainable. And that's the
thing like you should always tryand find a healthy balance. But
yeah,
Sean Nyberg (21:59):
well, there's so much toxicity in a lot of the
does Twitter, Disney communityand I think some of it is
sexism. I think some of it isracism, I think some of
homophobia, I think some but Ido think a lot of it is this
You're right, this race this ratrace. And this like we don't
like them and they don't likethem. Oh, they got you know, and
it's just it's tribal?
Jack DSNY (22:15):
Yes. Yes, you've got different tribes of different
people being like, Oh, I'm, I'mriding with whoever and it
becomes very much I've got mygang. And, and I also feel that
like, I don't know it, it's justnot a very healthy environment
to constantly live within thatkind of headspace of, of, you
(22:39):
know, I need to beat whoever youknow, it takes a lot of
willpower and, you know, strongminded outset to like, look at
No, we need to get back toDisney Parks gone.
Sean Nyberg (22:49):
Let's let's get you know, I know. But hey, this is
something that I think justdoesn't get talked about enough
because I think everyone's too.
They don't reflect on themselvesenough to be able to talk about
it anyway. Well, there you haveit. Part Three. The conclusion
of our conversation with jackfrom dsny newscast. I want to
give a huge thank you to jackfor green to speak with me and
cover so many different topics.
(23:10):
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See you Monday morning.
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