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August 25, 2025 44 mins

Susan Guthrie welcomes Jessica Frew back to Divorce and Beyond for a powerful conversation about releasing the “shoulds” that may box you in after divorce and reclaiming your decision-making power. Jessica is a wife, ex-wife, mom, stepmom, founder of The Bold Logic, and author of the upcoming book Shove the Shoulds: Become a Decision-Making Badass to Live the Bold Life You Deserve.

If you’ve ever felt weighed down by guilt, judgment, or that pesky inner voice telling you what you “should” be doing, this episode will help you break free. Plus, one lucky listener will win a free copy of Jessica’s new book, listen through to the end for details!

Stop living a life of “shoulds” and start today. Jessica shows you how to shove them right out the door and step confidently into your next chapter after divorce.

 What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

  • How “shoulds” are often just judgment in disguise and why recognizing them is the first step to freedom
  • The role conditioning and past relationships play in breaking down self-trust
  • Why true post-divorce freedom comes from reclaiming your decision-making power
  • Jessica’s Be, Be, Be formula: Be Gentle, Be Humble, Be Bold, and how it can transform your life
  • Practical ways to start rebuilding trust in yourself, one small decision at a time

More About Our Special Guest, Jessica Frew:  Jessica Frew is a wife, ex-wife, mom, stepmom, and BOLD action taker. She’s the founder of The BOLD Logic, a company devoted to helping women understand their decision making patterns to take back their voice. Jessica teaches women how to trust themselves by owning their decision-making power so they can live boldly, love honestly, and stop abandoning themselves to keep the peace.

Websites:

Enter to win a FREE copy of Jessica’s brand new book “Shove Your Shoulds: Become a Decision-Making Badass to Live the BOLD Life You Deserve”, just for listeners of the Divorce & Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie. https://shoveyourshoulds.com/enter

Jessica’s new book, "Shove Your Shoulds": https://shoveyourshoulds.com

Social Media: 

http://instagram.com/heyjessicafrew

http://www.facebook.com/heyjessicafrew

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MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:

SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years.  Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com

Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!  

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