2025 Update: Top tips when starting Mounjaro / Ozempic [S2E10]

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None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
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Patty and. Belinda.
Do you practice that, Belinda? Only when I'm on the toilet and
in the shower. Oh God, I know, gone down
already. OK.
And is it meant to be like Galinda from Wicked I?
Never heard anything to do with Wicked, and I know you're going

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to be. I know.
Are you? You obviously are.
Oh, yeah. Like so when we were in New York
before we went to see Wicked on Broadway or Off Broadway,
wherever it was, Oh my God. Like, I wouldn't be someone else
that's into musicals or anythinglike that, but holy mother of
God, it was unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.

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Don't really know anything aboutit, but you know what?
If the opportunity arose to go and see it, yeah, hell yes I
would. Yeah, absolutely.
I go to see all the shows, my favorite bin, Phantom of the and
then chess. Yeah, no, it was, it was
amazing. And then when the movie came
out, I was like, oh, like, you know what the movies are like
sometimes when something has been broader that we're like,

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odds are going to be correct. Shit like.
And it was actually good. Yeah, I remember you going,
actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like everyone raved about it. And you know what?
At the end of the day, entertainment.
Entertainment. Yeah, it is.
Yeah, totally. You know so.
Umm, yeah, wicked, but in that you need to go and see it.
Or like it's on, I'm sure. Well, actually, no, I don't.
Think oh I have AI have one of those.

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Umm, fartic, No. Yeah, that you can buy it on.
That you can buy it on. I have I have a thing to Disney.
Yeah, OK. Remember, no edits on this
episode. It didn't say anything.
Yet. Yeah, just keep looking at your
face for your teeth to grind andthen, yeah, it's like that.
Look, so you you have one of theone of the fire Sticks as Disney

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and Netflix and all those thingson and you can buy the movie to
watch on it. That's what you're saying.
I I think it's already on there with my subscription that I pay
monthly. Oh, OK.
I don't think it's out on those.I don't know, isn't it?
I don't know, I'll have a look. Yeah, anyway, moving swiftly.
Ever so swiftly. Long.
Umm, but I feel I haven't seen you in ages.
We haven't spoken long, long, long, long conversations in

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ages. It's been bullshit across text
message. That's all it's been.
We've spoke every day though by voice note but just not like for
like 5 hours a day. Yeah, yeah.
And mostly it begins with what'sup, bitch?
Yeah, bitch. And I love the way, like at the
start of the day, there's no like, hey, you know, happy
Thursday or nothing. It's literally just like, by the
way. Yeah, umm, excuse me.

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Did you know straight into the conversation?
Yeah. And then 20 minutes later, oh,
hi, by the way, good morning. And how is life?
How are things? What's going on, you think?
We're good. I think we're doing OK and I'm
just touching wood as I say that, umm, we're on the
countdown in our house for the holidays.
Yeah, umm, umm, yeah I haven't. I fell the other day I fell over

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a big massive Dalmatian dog and that belongs to my friend.
He's deaf, I'm stupid and we collided and it wasn't pretty.
Umm, put a little muscle in my back.
So I've missed like 2 days of the gym this week.
And that's not good. Again, what's the crack with
your, umm, potential operation on your back?
Your seizure. I went and had my MRI oh on my

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back and then I tried to get theresults and the umm surgeon said
no, you have to come down to thehospital in bloody car to get
the results. And I said could we not just do
it over zoom? It's €250 like to for him just
to read it. I thought he might just ring me
or no. He they said no you have to.

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But I think it's because he wants to explain that I don't
need the operation. OK, it's a long way to to bring
you to tell you, Oh no, we don'tneed you by the way.
But either way he would he wouldhave to see me anyway.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
I think now. But that's where we are with
that. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's all good.

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I've lost some weight this month.
Oh yeah, I'm. Surprised.
Fucking I'm surprised. I'm not surprising thing in my
life at the moment. But you know, I think myself and
you had a real long conversationa few weeks ago about cortisol
and stress and sleep and how it does, and it was impede.

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Yeah. Yeah, it does.
Impede and it was after I took that week off.
I think I've already spoken about this on a previous podcast
but I took a week off and it's after that my weight dropped.
Yeah, yeah. It's crazy.
And since then, I haven't been killing myself like I have been
killing myself for the past six months on a continuous basis,

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running wild with myself. Yeah, but like, it's so
important to look at the bigger picture of things.
Do you know? Umm, yeah, no, actually.
And actually we might get into that a little bit more in.
Yeah, definitely. It's a really interesting
subject, yeah. Umm.
Yeah, what about you, Paddy? Yeah, so I, umm, kind of, I had
it there a couple of weeks ago. I had like a 2 LB drop that I

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wasn't expecting at all and I was like, oh, where did that
come from? Umm, I've kind of been staying
the same roughly since then, which is exactly my routine now.
That's fine. I'm expecting that I'll stay the
same for like, I don't know, 7 or 8 weeks and then I'll have
another drop or something like that.
That's grand. That's fine.
I still thinking obviously a lotabout maintenance.

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I know we've referenced that a few times, but like I'm
definitely still hoping that like maybe like wearing now
we're major like that, like maybe late summer or September
kind of time that I will be in that kind of maintenance place
like you know now. I I'm I I need 1415 lbs.
More, yeah. Like I'm probably, I would say

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maybe a little bit more than that, maybe like maybe 20-20
ish, maybe pounds, 21 lbs maybe.Yeah, there's.
Still a lot of stone have like. Yeah, yeah.
Umm, now look at that could totally change, you know, I
could be down a stone and something like action or that
feels OK now or whatever the case might be.

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But yeah, that's kind of where my head is now.
But I, I know that's a slow thing now.
Slow burned me, yeah. So when I think about, umm,
getting to my maintenance stage,the same as you're thinking
about that now, you umm, and we think we have these numbers in
our head that we want gone to reach maintenance.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had this port yesterday
that 1415 lbs or whatever. And you know, my second port
right after that was to do you know what would hurry that up
now, if I started really fastingagain, Yeah.
Do you know what would even hurry up the fasting is if I
started doing keto again. And then I thought to myself,

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well, there she is. Yeah, there.
She is so interesting. You bring this up, right?
So in terms of say port behaviors, habits, stuff like
this, something that happened tome yesterday, this guy, I
haven't spoke with us. So I did not set myself up for
success with food yesterday. I let myself get hungry and I

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wasn't planned with having like food I would normally have
around me and I was in the house.
What I did have was Kit Kats. And what I did have was
biscuits. And I went and I had a Kit Kat.
Yeah, I had a Kit Kat and had a cup of tea.
And I was like, oh, my body likes sweet things and sugar
when it's hungry because it knows it's going to get a quick

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hit of energy. And it's like, I'll have another
biscuit, have another biscuit. And it's like, whoa, similar
thing. I was like, there's that thing
that you still need to watch outfor, you know, and I think I
think there's something we'll look back in a few minutes as
well, but. Would you?
You're nearly a year in. I'm nearly three years in,
Patty, and I still have to catchmyself yesterday.
You know It's wild. So Belinda, that could actually

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be a nice intro into what are wetalking about today.
Oh, we're going to talk about things that we may have done a
little bit different. Yeah, so like.
From starting our journey out, yeah, that we know now that we
would have liked to have known then.
Exactly like hints and tips whenyou're starting out.
We know these are the questions that we get every single day

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from people of us. You know, about, oh, what's your
advice on this? What's your advice on that?
Again, as we always say, first Elevens medically, we cannot
give you advice, OK? We cannot.
And you know what, Paddy, I'm going to start with something
because of the subject we just spoke about, right?
So it is a tip and it's also a trick, but it's also
informative, OK, And it is what it is.

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Right. This journey, this journey that
we're on is not about and the medication is not about stopping
you becoming hungry. You have to be hungry on this
journey. You cannot go around every
single day thinking, Oh my God, I don't want to be hungry.
Oh my God, I hope I don't get hungry.

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Your body has to get hungry. You have to feel hungry on this.
What happens along this journey is when you're hungry and you
eat, you're going to be able to push the plate away.
You're going to be able to eat less and feel fuller faster, and
that's huge. Yes.

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And the other thing is, and So what people normally kind of
experience when they're startingout on a weight loss medication
will be come back on a Day 5 mark.
They start getting worried they might have strong suppression
for four to five days, and then come day 5:00-ish when they're
like, Oh my God, I feel hungry or there's something wrong Day
6. Oh my God, I'm.
Working or, or where's my suppression gone?

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It's like, no, those days, honestly, like I look back on
those now and I think those dayswhere you can feel the
difference from suppression intohunger are genuinely such an
opportunity for you to lean intoand actually recognize this is
physical hunger or is it physical hunger?

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Is this in my mind or is this a habit or, oh, it's 10:00.
I'm going to have a cup of tea and cup and biscuits for the
sake of even though I'm not hungry.
Exactly. And when you get further along
on your journey, because you're going to have so much more
freedom and space in your brain to make better decisions, that

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is the time when you should be knuckling down to make better
decisions, you know? And that's huge as well, that
all the learning that you're going to get is from those
moments when your hunger does come back and you get to decide,
because when you eat, then you'll just feel fuller, fuller,
quicker, you know? Because like this morning then,

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umm, I was out about early this morning and I was like, Oh, I
feel a bit peckish. And I said, actually, I'm going
to use this as a little revisit for myself.
Am I actually peckish? Or is it, oh, it's morning time
up and have a cup of tea. So I'm going to have something.
So I said, you know, I'm going to let it sit actually for like
an hour and see how do I feel? But I wasn't physically hungry.
I was not physically hungry. It I, I, I was mentally hungry,

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if that makes sense, because oh,it's morning time.
I'm having a cup of coffee or whatever, but I wasn't
physically hungry and it was such a good reminder of do you
know what? I, I, I would agree with you
that for me, I found it to be such a hugely important aspect
of my journey in terms of reminding myself and relearning
what is physical hunger. And this kind of ties in, I

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guess with that bit of a, a, a theme that comes up time and
time and time and time again of or should you count calories or
should you not count calories? A look at everyone will have
different things that work for them.
My advice from my perspective and, and kind of my experience
would be, I think I would say tosomebody, I think it's a much

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healthier approach if you are able to try and lean into
understanding how your body is responding to hunger and
fullness. And do that from a place of
intuitive eating as opposed to relying on My Fitness Pal to be
telling you what you should be eating or how much of it or
stuff like that. Because in a way, I think you're
almost obsessing from one numberover to a different number then.

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And these other tools that will become so important to you later
on in your journey, they can be extremely triggering.
Yeah. Up as well.
And these are the things that we're trying to get away from,
to break free from. Yeah.
And again, it's like the weighing scales is it's just one
number to another number. Umm, I think everybody really in

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their life should aspire to not to be tied to a scales if they.
Yeah, if it's been like that forthem for 30 years, like it was
for me, you know, Yeah, Yeah, it's hard.
It is hard starting now, Paddy. It's really now feckin hard.
In saying that, one of things where I think it could, it can
be helpful things of like tracking or stuff like that, umm

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is if you're like, OK, do you know what I want to see?
Maybe how much protein am I getting in?
Then I'm like, do you know what?Rather?
Than fiber. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So rather than going in and set and say calorie target in my
fitness parlor, stuff like that,set it to 0, set me and and then
just track your food, see how much protein you're getting
because then that'll add up. It'll tell you like if you, if
you set everything in My fitnessPal to 0, but still track it, it

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will still tell you, Oh, I've eaten X grams of protein or X
grams of so if you want. Yeah, that's that's what I did
the first week was if you want to get an idea for am I in the
ballpark of where ideally I might need to be in terms of
protein and fiber and stuff likethat?
That could be something. All right.
But in terms of Y, you don't want to be thinking 034 years
down the line, I'm still going to be tracking everything,
eating My Fitness Pal like it's.You can't.

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You can't think like that, no. You know, so so but yes, I would
agree that that kind of experiencing physical hunger is
a for me was a hugely important part of my journey and still is
from time to time, let's say like this morning, it's a good
reminder to you know, that was just a that that was I don't see
I. Caught myself.

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Yeah, I caught. Myself, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. But even, again, like we said,
that doesn't happen overnight. And you know what, when I like
when I, when we think about all of the messages we get that are
so riddled with anxiety and questions and stress.
And we were like that too. Paddy Week 1234 month 2, month

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3. And it's just so hard.
It's so hard to lean into it. And I still tell girls that are
9 months in now that are in my subscription group, you know,
just try as hard as you can justto lean into it and not expect
too much all the time. So that'll lead me into, I guess
one of the tips I would say now it is nor I'm, I'm, I'm sure

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you're probably the same, but inyour time, well, maybe it was a
bit different for you actually in your time, back in you, back
in your day. It is.
It was very. Different, but but what I'm
going to say is I know I was looking for every single bit of
information, every group and every social media account I
could find that was on one of like a weight loss medicated

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journey for me to try and absorball that information and for me
to try and compare myself to those.
And it's one of the things that I wish like when I look in
Facebook or look, look in different groups and stuff like
that, that I wish I had the time.
And then you took in a reply to everyone where they're like oh,
what dose does everyone find most effective or?
Poor thing, that's what I think to myself.

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Or. Even like this week, like I've
seen multiple people like oh, I'm on day like 6 or 7 or I'm on
Week 2 of like 2.5 and I'm not getting this.
It's not working for me. And I'm like Oh my God, no stop,
stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
So basically. And you want to.
You want to answer every single comment you see what you just
can't and. So my kind of next bit of advice
would be as difficult as it is, remember this is your journey

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and try, try, try, try, try to not compare it to other people's
journeys. Because everybody's biology will
react differently to their physiological makeup, to the
different dose of medication, tothe different types of
medication, to the food they're eating, the movement they're
doing. There are so many variables on

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people's journey that you can't compare your journey to their
journey. And to to this day and TikTok,
this is still my biggest video, the biggest mistake people make
when starting out. And that is expecting too much
too quick when starting out on those initial weeks,
particularly those first kind offour to six to eight weeks when
you're starting out. Because there there's people
like me that have been quick responders and we've touched on

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this multiple times on it, but then there's other people that
won't be quick responders and they're the norm.
I'm not the norm. I am not the norm like this Qui
how quick a response I have thatis not the.
Norm see, I didn't I didn't haveso much of that when I started
Paddy because I didn't there were it wasn't there now there
were a lot of like American umm content creators that I couldn't
really relate to yeah, but I will say that excuse me, any of

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the umm content creators that I did see umm it was a constant
battle for me because they were all losing fast and there was no
there was no accounts like my account that was just
documenting the everyday struggle that it is to be on
these medications and to not be losing rapid weight loss

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rapidly. Umm, you know, so it was tough.
It was tough. Umm, I went through then all of
the shame, well, about using themedication that I was using
first and what it was originally, umm, made for us.
So that was difficult. Yeah.
And then going through the wholething where the pharmacists

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wouldn't. Yeah.
Look, it's been a ride. My God, it's been an up and
down, Yeah. Do do you get many messages from
people that are worried are thatare comparing themselves to
other people and to other journeys?
I'm afraid it's not working for them and stuff like that.
I do a lot, yeah. A lot, yeah.
Yeah. And I don't so much for the

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girls in the subscription group because I'm constantly talking
to them about it anyway and letting them know and
reinforcing that message, you know, So.
But for people that are out there and that are reaching out
to strangers on the Internet looking for hope and you know.
And I get it. Like, like it's totally.
Hard. Like we are the world's worst

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enemy to ourselves at times in that place of like trying to
compare ourselves to each other and stuff like that.
But yeah, it, it's about when you find yourself going down
that when you're in a, a, a space that is social media or
whatever case might be. If you find yourself going down
a slope of comparing yourself tothem, that's making you feel
bad. That in itself should be an
indicator to that is not a spacefor you to be in then, because

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you need to be. And we've said this before, but
social media in general, but theaccounts and the content that
you are engaging with should be making you feel good about your
journey and reinforcing that you're doing the right steps,
not making you, you know, doubt yourself.
But like I say, particularly, even even today, twice alone, I
went in on a thing on Facebook and it's probably breaking the,

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the rules of the group, but it, it just like breaks my heart
when I see people worrying so much, Oh, it's week 1.
I haven't a depression. I haven't this, I'm like, Oh my
God, first of all, how like again, why don't you go to
prescriber me if you're worried about this or having a chat with
them or again, maybe just understanding about how the
Medicare medication works. Maybe that's something that
prescribers and doctors and stuff like that have a better

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place that they can do. But I just share that TikTok
that I have pinned to my main TikTok page because it literally
is all about just quiz on yourself.
Like be gentle on your expectations for those first few
weeks. You know, it's so important.
Especially if you are somebody coming from, uh, decades of
dieting, yeah, yeah, and, and wreck in your body and having

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trauma, umm, about around scalesand being weighed in public and
in and out of slimming groups and all the rest of it.
This isn't anything like that. This is so, so different.
And as you said earlier, Paddy, every single person's biology is
going to react 100% different. Everybody's body, everybody.

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And I think that kind of ties inprobably a tip in its own right
that this isn't a diet. And I say this time and time and
time and time and time again, and I will continue to say it
for people again to try and reinforce this is not a diet.
This is a medical treatment for a medical condition.
And I know that some people findthat a little bit uncomfortable

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to sit with because some people don't want to identify
themselves as having, you know, maybe a medical condition that
is obese, sort of that. And that's a whole other thing
for folks to work through. But at the crux of it, it is not
a diet. It is a medical treatment for a
medical condition. And you need to show yourself
that kind of space and compassion and grace to allow
your body to kind of respond andreact the way that that it's

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going to. And kind of tying in with that
is like I told you, when we focus on weeks and we do, we
default to I've lost no weight this week.
I've lost weight this week. Yeah, I get that up.
Yeah, our bodies does not work in seven days.
Cycles of weight loss or weight gain.
That's the construct of a piece of paper on a calendar.
Yes, exactly exactly. And The thing is as well that

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there are so many variables, especially for women in mid life
dealing with hormonal change, water retention, all the rest of
it. Nothing is linear.
That's again, it's about focusing in on the week, but
then zooming out to see the months, yes, and as long as that
is going down continuously, maybe going up and down like

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that, but it's still on. Its way down the trend.
Yeah, the trend is going down and you can't ask for there's,
you can't ask for more than that.
Yeah, none of them can ask for more than that.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, No, Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Umm, another thing that I would say to people probably is that

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if you are getting side effects early on are at any stage, What
I mean is as soon as you can letyour prescriber know so that
they can work with you and like put your mind at ease or a, a, a
assess, see what is the best wayforward for you.
Again, looking at the messages Iget in terms of side effects or
looking at what I see people putout online looking for help and

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guidance, It's like, no, please,please, please loop in your
prescriber as early as possible.And some of the messages will
be, Oh my God, I'm afraid that they're going to take the
medication off me or this, that or the other.
They might if it's severe. But equally, there's a lot of
things whereby your prescriber can work with you and be like,
hey, actually do you know what? Here is a way that we can
support this, that we can treat with this or stuff like that as
well, you know? OK.

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And so I guess the other tip I wanted to talk about as well,
Paddy, is this medication isn't a magic pill.
It is only another tool in our box that we have to use
alongside all of the other toolswe have, like a nutrition,

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knowing our nutrition, educatingourselves on nutrition,
Exercise. Not even exercise because I
don't even like that word. Do you, Paddy?
No, I don't. I don't.
I use. Movement.
I know you don't. Yeah.
Movement. So we're talking about movement.
Yeah. That's good for your body and
your mind. And what else, Paddy?
What else would? You say because I was going to

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say there, I think. Again, connotations that come
along with. Yeah, well, it's more so I think
that thing that I think there are some people think, oh, I can
just take, I can take the jab and it's going to fix
everything. It's like, no, this is fixes
nothing. This is one part of a, of a
journey and you absolutely, particularly your nutrition, you

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know, you need to focus on now Ido get look at when you're
starting out for that kind of first week or two, it might be
like, OK, I need to pace myself with where my focus is because
this is a lot. It can be overwhelming, 100% get
that, but you need to factor in that you need to be intentional
with understanding what your nutritional needs is.
That's why, again, I'm a huge fan of people engaging with a

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registered dietitian when you'restarting out, that you can get
that bespoke nutritional advice for yourself.
But also the importance of movement, not just for the sake
of moving, but because for your overall health, your longevity,
the protecting your joints, yourbones, your muscles.
Like if you're approaching this genuinely from a place of health

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first, then these are things youneed to think of.
So I was surprised. I did AI did a poll on umm on
Instagram and I asked people about where they're currently
working out. OK, umm.
And I put in like this could include like say.
Umm oh was that in your chat? Thing yes, yeah.

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So I I. Was in there, yeah.
Yeah. So out of that, almost 50% of
people said, no, they're not engaging with intentional
movement at the moment. Oh, wow, I was surprised with
that higher wow. So I think that goes to show me
that there is still so much morework that that that we can do to
even like the likes of me and you blended that are and and we

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do put stuff on our social media.
Oh yeah. In relation to movement.
But I think there's probably more even that we can do to try
and influence that narrative offwhy movement is important, why
movement is important, the benefits of movement, why it's
important on a way to class journey in terms of just a
health journey. But I think that is such an
important part for people to understand that the reason you
do movement isn't to burn calories, but it's to support

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your health, you know, and to help you have a healthier body,
a healthier mind, so that. You know, you know, and I know,
Paddy, that that influences yourmental health.
Oh, massively, massively, massively, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So absolutely.
And I think sometimes, umm, whenyou've come off the back of

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decades or years or whatever of,umm, in the cycle of dieting
then and regaining and relapsingand all of that, then your
mental health cannot be in a good place.
Yeah. You know, and as well, I know
you said a minute ago, Paddy, you know, coming from this at an
angle of health first, yeah, that in an ideal world we would

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all want to be coming at it fromthat angle.
Yeah, But I know I'll put my hand up and say I didn't.
Yeah, I didn't. I was in like when I started,
when I took my first step, I wasprobably at my lowest point.
I was, I think you might have been as well, actually.
Yeah, I was very much at my lowest point.

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I had started the process of nearly making peace with the
fact that I would always be thissize, and then making peace with
the fact that because I'm makingpeace with that, I need to, I
need to keep in mind that I'm not going to be here as long as
I could possibly. Be here Belinda.
I definitely and I, I think I'vedone like one if not 2 tik toks

(27:38):
over the past kind of year aboutthis that I I definitely had
periods of time where I was like, is it just fucking easier
for me to stay fast and accept that because I am exhausted
about. Trying.
We've had days like that though,Paddy, don't deny, you wouldn't.
We can, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
And that's where the binges comein.
Yes, yeah, yeah. And I think, and I do get what

(27:59):
you're saying, that look at whenyou're thinking about starting
out that you're where your headspace might be, might be in
terms of, OK, this is last chance to do and I need to do
something. I've seen this medication or
I've seen this route or I've seen whatever, like this is
going to be the answer. But then as you start navigating
that journey, you learn to understand, oh, OK, So these are
the elements in the building blocks that are important to
prioritize actually not not justthe weight loss, but actually

(28:22):
improved health and optimum health along the way.
And you know, that can be a transition thing.
Absolutely get that. But.
It's a massive transition. Yeah.
I think about trying to understand when you're starting
out that there comes a time where you do need to be focusing
on your nutrition, on your movement and understanding the
critical part that both of thoseplay and on your journey, that
it's not just a medication is going to fix everything for you

(28:43):
because it's it's not. And it cannot.
It cannot be just about weight. The same way, the same way as
I've said a few times before when I lost the weight before I
thought I was fixed, you know, and it's not, and it's even that
terminology, you're it's not a case of being fixed.
It's about wanting to be healthier.
Do you know what to had to to live in a healthier body as long

(29:04):
as we can? Yeah, and those those kind of
thoughts, they don't come at theat the beginning sometimes.
Sometimes they won't even come at the middle.
You know what I mean? It's only in OK, so take for
instance, I'm on it. I'm three years in my first year
was about trying to get as much down as I possibly could.

(29:24):
In my second year was all about,Oh my God, I can't believe this
has happened. And now my third year, I mean
the gym lifting 65 KG of weight,like who am I?
Who am I, you know, and at this point as well, I've started,
which I've never done before. I've started looking after
myself and my mental health and taking rest, you know, because I

(29:46):
keep forgetting I'm nearly 50. I'm 50 next year, you know, and
I'm, I've never been excited to turn over another decade in my
life because I've literally never been this healthy.
I've never been this fish has never been this mentally.
Well, yeah, you know. And that is exciting to think
that OK, like for a lot of people, 50 can be a big

(30:07):
milestone for for various reasons.
But imagine one of the milestones being This is
probably going to be like the healthiest decade of my life.
Of my life. Oh my gosh, yes.
Isn't that mental? I am lifting weights.
I'm in the gym. I am, you know, doing your
outfits of the day type thing. You know, you're like, it's
just. How am I?
Who the hell do I think I am in Penny's shopping?

(30:28):
You're we, you're we. 17 year old influencer, Yeah.
You know what, I got 2 messages the other day from some ladies
to say, you know what? I always look at those clothes
that you're wearing and I never think that I can.
And it's so nice to see. And like, I'm still a size 18

(30:49):
and I don't think I'm going to go very much further down than
that. But there are ladies around that
are a size 18 and that's the biggest they've been and they
want to get down to a size 12, you know what I mean?
So yeah, I think I was heading. I think at one point, at my very
heaviest I would have hit a size28 I think.
Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah. God, actually, no, I'm going to

(31:13):
go in with another tip because you just made me think of
something else there. Yeah, good.
Go for it. When you're starting out are
like, if you're in those early stages, not too late, remember
the importance of other measurements of success that are
not the scales, your photographs, your clothes size,
being able to get up off the ground, maybe without needing to

(31:34):
hold onto a chair, being able togo up and down the stairs.
And you know the measurements. I remember said that, but like
there's so many and way more meaningful measurements in
day-to-day life. I think you know, it can be
really exciting to measure otherthan just the feckin weight on
the scales, you know and as I. Said Paddy.

(31:56):
Yeah, 100%. Like I see the weight on the
scales, that's a byproduct, that's a side effect of all the
other stuff I'm doing, you know,So I'd why focus just on it?
Like I had forgot there was it maybe 5-6 weeks ago, I was
sitting at home and I was like my measurements and ages and I

(32:19):
did them. I was shocked.
I was shocked because I thought all the change.
Yeah, yeah. Because I was kind of thinking
all my weight has kind of been stalled in a bed and the the
losses have been a bit slower and stuff like that.
And I think so sure the measurements aren't going to be
that different. So I hadn't really been thinking
about doing the measurements andthen I went back and did them
and I was. Like, Oh my God, they would be,
wouldn't they? Oh my God, because I was still

(32:41):
in the gym, I was doing still. And again, just because your
number might be slow or your number might not be changing
does not mean that your body isn't getting healthier and
doesn't mean that your composition and that your makeup
isn't changing. So like those other things to
keep track of, like I would say may actually, you know, but and
this could be a little guide that we could put together to

(33:03):
make available for people in terms of when you're starting
out, like in terms of your measurement type thing.
So like. Even in the.
PDF. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. You can share with everybody,
yeah. Like like maybe umm, take your
picture eh? Do your measurements off some of
your key sites have a list of those.
Start your guide. I know there's a load of them
out there as well, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're genuine.

(33:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Exactly.
So yeah, you know, and just makeit free available for people to
to like download like, you know.Yeah, that would be fantastic.
I think we should do that. Yeah.
Yeah, we're well capable. Yeah.
And the other thing I wanted to say as well, like about the
measurements that you just mentioned, Paddy, as well, like
the measurements around your waist circumference.
And I know I've said this like 5times, but the measurement, the

(33:47):
measurement around your waist circumference is a massive,
massive indicator of a health marker.
Yeah. So the more inches, centimeters
that you are losing from your waist, that is an indicator of
how healthier you are actually getting.
Yeah. Now there's two different kinds
of fat around your waist. There's the subcutaneous fat
that you can actually pinch an inch on, and then there's the

(34:10):
visceral fat inside that we can't see or feel.
And that visceral fat is the fatthat encases your organs.
So as your waste is going down, the visceral fat is melting away
and freeing up your organs, giving them room to breathe and
live longer. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And this is where the likes of aDEXA scan can be amazing because

(34:36):
it is literally like a photograph of this might sound a
bit random, but like of all the stuff in your body, including
those fats that you're talking about, Belinda.
So you can visualize, you can see it on the scan of there's
where my fat is, you know, there's and keep track of that
as another data point. You know, that's, that's a way
healthier thing than just. In I do.

(34:57):
I do that in the gym with the umm, in body scanner.
Yeah, yeah, I actually, I forgotto tell you, but I bought a
renfo. All right, I've seen.
Yeah. I've I've something similar.
So I think, I think we touched on this once before in one in
one episode. So I do have a scale, a fucking
expensive scale that has the handles and all that will do

(35:19):
like my body fat and all that. However you yeah, I do.
Yeah. But the reason I don't use it is
that when I started, my journey is too heavy for Belinda, so I
started using a different scale and I've just stuck with that
scale because it's been it's your.
Scale now, yeah. And because the other one weighs
Me 2 LB heavier. Get it in the bin immediately.

(35:43):
Like I know I'm not even heavierwhen I want to put away as much
as I'm why isn't that No, so I do have one of those, but I just
ended up sticking with this moresimpler one because it had a
heavier body weight capacity starting.
So even though I comfortably on the other one now umm, you need
to. Take that out, Paddy.
Yeah, it it's in the bathroom bythe other one, but it's just
not. Yeah, do you know, I don't, I

(36:03):
didn't buy it for my weight. I bought it because I wanted to
see what my visceral fat is and I wanted to see my umm, muscle,
umm, mass and stuff like that because that's what I'm
interested in now. And that's how how things change
as you go along in this journey.You know you won't always be at
the start worried about the scales.
While we're talking about bottomend, I'm going to turn off my

(36:26):
background for a SEC because it's going to blur otherwise.
So for people watching, this is going to make more sense.
And if you didn't know, you can watch, you can watch our podcast
on Spotify, Spotify, and you canwatch our podcast on YouTube as
well. So you can see the videos there,
but I'm just going to show you here.
So this is one of the things, bear with me now, I'm probably
going to affect this up. That amazes me now when I'm

(36:46):
standing right. He is had.
He is in his old childhood bedroom.
Yes. So like how narrow I am kind of
here now. Like, yeah, yeah, in terms of
like my butt now here tummy wise, I definitely still have
like that. Is that what is that?
Is that actual fat or is that loose skin Paddy?

(37:07):
So it will be a combination of both, but there's definitely fat
there. Definitely, definitely fat.
So where I have the majority of my fat now is here in my tummy
and the very tops of my legs. Very, very tops of my legs.
The rest of my body has doesn't have a huge amount of fat on it.
Sort of, you know, the fat has gone down to me wrong.
I know that for my measurements,but the bit that always amaze me

(37:28):
is so this would be around the bottom of my ribs.
OK, When I stand, I'd be like, Oh my God, that's very.
You've probably never been able to feel your ribs.
It's like narrow, do you know, like, yeah.
And like, Oh my God, that's really that's.
Weird. That's small.
About where you've come from, like.
And the older thing that's like mental I.

(37:50):
Hope you're watching this guy's.The other thing that's mental is
like, particularly like my. Collarbone.
My collar, like you hear? Like that's my collarbone.
Like like what the heck? And like it's really prominent.
And the same with my with my, eh, eh, sternum is you call it

(38:13):
like at the bottom there. And it's like, but particularly
now when I like touch my car, like, Oh my God, that is like so
prominent. And then every now and again
I'll tap like there's no fat on that.
Oh, yeah, no, I know what you mean.
But you know, you know what I found about two or three weeks
ago? I was lying on my side in bed
and I got a pair of the bed. And so there's something in that
bed and I thought there was something in the mattress or

(38:35):
something, but it wasn't. It was my fucking hip bone, Yes,
sticking out to the mattress. There's so much fat on it.
Yeah. Isn't it mad?
It's mental. So this is what?
And like these are things that are way more exciting than the
number on the scale. Do you know what I mean?
Like because that thing when I'mat home and like if I just put
my hand like that or I'm like, Oh my God.

(38:55):
God, but you know, you know the other big thing, and you've
probably noticed this as well. Umm, I've always walked.
Even when I was at my heaviest, I've always walked.
And you know, you're walking. You're swinging your arms.
Yeah, my arms used to hit off ofmy hips.
OK, yes. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're
ages out, like they're way out now.

(39:15):
So they are. I was delighted with myself.
Yeah. Those are the little things that
kind of keep it going, you know?And those are the things that
you have to keep bringing it back to.
Yeah. In the early days especially.
And I think about how you're feeling as well and how easy it
is for you to get full. Yeah.
And if you suffered with food noise and you're starting out,

(39:37):
umm, keep an eye out on your food noise and just think to
yourself, oh God, I haven't thought about food in an.
Hour and a half which? For me would be huge back then,
an hour and a half because mostly it was probably every
fifth non fucking every 10 minutes, every 7.
And it's not funny, Patty, because it's true. 100% I know.

(39:58):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And then? Just those are the things that
you need to keep, uh, thinking about, you know, at the very
start. Yeah, umm, you might recall
there was a few weeks ago, uh, where I was like, oh, get
someone emailed and we didn't mention, uh, Chris.
So this was back in April and atthat time, umm, Chris had said,
uh, I just want to say a huge thank you, uh, for the dose.

(40:19):
Your podcast has been a real companion on my weight loss
journey, especially as I've beennavigating life for Manjaro
after struggling with yo-yo dieting my entire adult life.
Uh, I felt like I had tried everything.
I was stuck in a cycle of frustration, shame, and
exhaustion. My BMI was 42 and I was
beginning to hope that anything would ever truly work for me
long term. Uh, basically, yeah.
Your podcast came into my life. Hearing your honest

(40:40):
conversation, the exponentries and the shared experience of
others going through the sands up and down has been nothing
short on a life changing and help me forward it.
So this was Chris back in April and he sent another follow up.
Then when he heard that we read out that earlier saying, Oh my
God, you read an e-mail and mademe smile.
But anyway, Chris e-mail, I think it was last weekend
saying, and this is like again, looking at those measurements

(41:02):
that aren't just something on a on a weighing scale as such to
say officially hit non obese today, gang, eh, although BMI is
trash, which we know, eh, soon to be in maintenance.
Worried about that ways. Hope you're both well looking
forward to this week's part. So Chris, huge well done.
And again, that's another one. Well done.

(41:22):
And I like, like Chris, I can relate that because I know, like
my again, we, I, I know, we know, we know BMI is a lot, OK,
we know that. But the reason why we reference
it is it is one of the main measures that's currently used
in terms of access to treatment and stuff like that.
So that's why it's referenced. But like I know when I started
my BMI was like umm, 4646 something and now it is like

(41:46):
31.5 or something. So equally I'm thinking.
Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, so I'm like, Oh my God,
I'm so close to be overweight, and that sounds meant to be
excited. But that's normal in our yeah,
yeah, yeah. Yeah, so like, oh, excited to be
charged. I'm overweight.
Umm, but yeah, so no Chris, fairplay.

(42:06):
And again, folks, if you well done Chris, yeah, if you ever
want to, eh, drop us an e-mail. And first of all, be warned,
fairly shitty at replying, OK? Umm, I don't do any of that kind
of stuff. Yeah, so.
It's all Paddy. Yeah, and but it is hello at the
dose dot IE OK, and we love hearing from you, love hearing
your stories, love hearing your thoughts on the podcast, all

(42:28):
that kind of stuff. So hello at the dos.ae if ever
you want to send us a message there.
And I'd say just keep in mind that Belinda doesn't read them
and I have to read them to her. Don't, yeah, don't read
anything. But you're, you're too.
You're too busy editing the podcast and everything.
I was just going to admit to notbeing able to edit the podcast.
Yeah, we can. Do it.

(42:49):
We did. We spoke about, we speak about
this a lot and we know that whenwe get a big massive sponsorship
brand, the it'll be 2080. Well, I used to say 6040 but.
Just the crickets, yeah. I used to say 6040, but now it's
kind of going up to 7030, 8020. Oh God, you're going to come to

(43:16):
try and get into the studio someday.
Like the door locked you won't be able to get anymore.
I know. Yeah, yeah.
And then when anyone goes on to Spotify to have a watch, because
we're now watchable on Spotify, it'll be a dummy of Belinda or
actually though, it'll be a screenshot.
An AI version of you God. Yeah.
Like the baby? Did you like the baby videos

(43:37):
that I put up off us? Cute.
It was brilliant. Yeah, I put them on my, I put
them on my, umm, grid. I love them.
Yeah, I think they're so cool. Yeah, no, they are cool and
right any. Other ones, yeah.
It's going to ask you something.I think, I think it's about in
general, we spoke with this maybe on social media, but in

(43:58):
terms of protecting that your mental health whilst you're on
this journey, because you, if you're somebody that is going to
be sharing your journey with other people, like even just
saying it to friends and family that you're on it.
Everybody's going to have an opinion, everybody.
And I'm not saying that to try and deter you from saying it.
I like, I have found it very positive in terms of sharing my

(44:22):
story, but I definitely, definitely still get people that
are like, but and I'd be like, OK, let's let's actually talk
about that opinion or let's kindof tease that out a little bit
more. So I guess it's about.
You have patience, Paddy, for that kind of bullshit.
Idea, but it's about I guess choose your support group around

(44:44):
you in person as well and don't just because other people might
be saying to you, oh you look great, have you lost weight?
What are you doing? Don't feel obliged like you have
to tell them your medical history, what you're doing.
You are absolutely entitled. Like just focus on my health at
the moment. So I'm trying to make a few
changes. And also, Please remember, you
don't have to tell all the people all the things all the

(45:07):
time. That's rich coming from us.
I know lads, isn't it do? You know what?
We can't shut up like. My dad's, my dad said to
someone, eh there the other day that eh, he doesn't know what
way I am because I would never tell anyone.
I'm like, well, there's one way to know that you never look at
me Social media. Ever.

(45:28):
He wouldn't tell anyone. But you know what?
But that's, that's the truth though, Paddy.
I've never told anybody, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, The thing is, I never
should talk about like, I don't care like.
Sure, you went on. You went on national television.
Everyone. Yeah, that's how mad you were to
be telling all your business to all the people I know.
Umm, but some of the phrases like in terms of if you are

(45:52):
thinking about like sharing it with people and stuff.
And again, I say, for me, I found it mostly positive because
it had is it has helped to create that bit of community.
And also I do then be surprised at times when I say it to people
or the people that post, right? You get the little whisper in
the ear when they're giving you a hug or whatever.
You're like, uh, OK. But like, don't feel obliged to

(46:14):
have to tell people. Even if people pass comment on,
oh, you're looking really well or oh, how have you lost weight?
Like some of the phrases I put up before were things like, you
know, oh, that's kind of you to say.
I'm just doing what feels right to my body.
Uh, I'm focusing on my health ina way that works for me.
And that's all I'm really thinking about right now.
Umm, or I've made a few personalchanges, nothing fancy, just

(46:35):
doing what feels doable. Umm, or I'm not really following
a plan as such, just trying to look after myself a bit better.
Umm, I'm not going into all the details just yet, but thanks for
noticing. I do appreciate it.
Or finally, kind of a little oneis do you know what?
I'm in a better place lately. And I think that showing which
feels really good. So again, none of that.
I like the last. One.
I like that last one, yeah. Yeah, it it like never feel

(46:56):
under pressure to tell people orthis is my medical like
particularly Irish, we're we're lucky.
We don't want to be telling people our business like, you
know what I mean? Like it's, it's like, oh God, I
don't want them know that about what the neighbors think.
But like, so never feel under pressure to be telling people
about what you're doing. But equally, you know, if it's
something that you, you, you don't have anything to feel bad

(47:18):
about or awkward about or embarrassed about or anything,
it's a medical treatment. Do you know what I mean?
Like and you know. And another, another little tip
as well that, you know, when people do start to notice a
difference in you and I speak, Ispoke to my girls in the
subscription Group A couple of times about this and how hard we
find it to take a compliment andsay thank you.

(47:41):
And you know, what I realized aswell is that when somebody walks
up to you and says, Oh, my God, you look so well.
Do you know what it takes for that person sometimes to walk up
to you and say that? So don't slap it back in their
face. Look at them and say, oh, my
God, thanks for saying that. You're so.
Yeah. That's brilliant.
Thanks very much. And I appreciate you saying

(48:02):
that, you know. Yeah, absolutely it.
Takes a lot it does. Yeah, like I'm still a work in
progress with that one. So my kind of thing is I will
accept it, but then I deflect a little bit.
So I always. Penny's son thanks Penny's son.
Kindly, yeah. So if someone comes up, said,
oh, jeez, you're looking really well.
I'm like, oh, thank you very much.
You know, still a bit to go, butgetting there.

(48:24):
I know I do that too. And I'm like, oh, and I, I, I,
I'll put my hand on my belly. And I think part of that is
because I'm so sick of people telling me.
And I, we spoke with this before, but I'm so sick of
people telling me, oh, don't lose any more weight, any more
weight. You're grand the way you are
now. You're grand now.
You're grand the way you are. I'm like, I still have this big
tummy and this isn't about beingpain.
This isn't about being skinny. But I still have a considerable

(48:46):
amount of eh, fat around my midsection that I want to reduce
further. And now I'll be you mind a
minute? But yeah, yeah, you know,
that's. Coming this way only to come
this far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know, umm, I look, I I think yeah, no, but.
No, that was, that was. They're really good tips and and
tricks for starting out. I think they are, yeah.

(49:08):
I think so. I think look at and.
Also watch out for our shareabledocument on tips and tricks.
When's that going to be output into?
I'll get back to you on that pattern.
And where is it going to be? It's going to be out on the
twelfthteenth. November where?

(49:29):
Where where people find us? Umm.
On Instagram, no hello at the dost dot IE is that Is that an
e-mail address? That's an e-mail address.
But we will. Yeah, well, they can e-mail us.
We'll send it off a big run. I'll do it, I'll do it.
Do you even know how to get intothe e-mail?

(49:51):
I'm sorry. By the way, the magic comments
that we got with me muting you. I know, I wish I had the time or
the inclination to know these things.
I. Just don't Internet.
What are you using big words forInternet internation is this.
Inclination. Oh, inclination.

(50:12):
Yeah, we. Yeah, you know that.
Do you know what that actually means?
No, it's way too big a word it. Just means can't be.
Asked. I did not ask, didn't ask.
OK, I'm I think I'm done here now.
My allies, you're lucky my fingers over the mute button
just was thinking I hadn't used it.
This your finger slipped. Oh, oh, she muted herself there.

(50:35):
That wasn't even me. So no.
So anyway, look at I think they are a good thing to think about.
Like there's obviously like probably loads more instant tips
and we could be evidence for that.
But I think the most, the one that I would probably just
really hone down on again and again and again is this is your
journey. It is probably going to look
extremely different from 200 people around you.

(50:56):
They're on maybe a similar journey, but it's not going to
look the same necessarily. So please, please, please don't
be comparing yourself to those people and be realistic.
Yeah, be realistic when you're starting out.
Don't expect miracles overnight,you know?
As I say, you know, I didn't gain this weight overnight and
it's not going to go overnight, you know?
That's a good one, Paddy. That's a good one because I

(51:18):
started my kind of weight gain in my mid 20s and it took up to
three years ago to get to my full-fledged.
Yeah. Highest weight, yeah umm, so
given myself three years now, tohave come down to a semi normal,

(51:39):
umm weight is just the way it is.
And these journeys are not six months long, they are years.
Absolutely, Absolutely cool. Let's draw a line with that one.
And I do want to bring somethingwithin the news, put my producer
hat on. And I do want to bring in

(51:59):
something that was in the news today, OK, That I think is
important to draw attention to. Oh yes.
OK. So the HPRA, basically the
regulatory body in Ireland for Will you stop making noise,
Belinda? A muted Yeah.
So the HRA is the regulatory body overall, like prescription

(52:21):
medications and stuff like that.And there was a news release
today that urgent warning of fraudulent websites and adverts
promoting illegal medicines, a surge in online advertisements,
making spurious claims and featuring false advertisements.
So there is a lot of informationin this.
It talks about basically illegal, essentially products

(52:44):
that have been listed on Shopifystores, on Facebook stores,
different ones on Meta, different places, different
marketplace, all this kind of stuff that are being advertised.
And that there has been a huge surge in the amount of things
like say, patches that are promoting to be GLP one type,
patches of different types. I've seen those, yeah, of

(53:08):
different types of alleged medications and all this kind of
stuff. So it's, we just really want to
highlight again, remember, if you're on a medicated journey,
the only place that you should be, you know, getting your
treatment from is from registered legitimate
pharmacies, doctors, prescribers, not from Facebook,

(53:30):
not from random websites. So please, please, please
prioritize your health and don'tbe going down that route because
you have no idea what it is thatyou could be putting into, to
your body or, you know, slappingonto your body in terms of like
patches or stuff like that. So please prioritize your
health. Only engage with your doctor,
talk to your pharmacist, talk tolegitimate prescribers that are

(53:53):
registered. Umm, and, and, and if you do see
those websites, usually there's a way that you can report them
to the likes of the HPA and stuff that please do that to try
and protect other people as well, because it's an important
even as a community. Instagram and yeah, but even on
Instagram and on Tiktok and all that on Facebook, it's easy to
report these these people that are selling these weight loss
medications that are absolutely,yes, so far removed from what

(54:18):
they are saying they are. And it's just so dangerous and
it's just not allowed, guys. Yeah, I'm like particularly like
TikTok is wild. In some of the videos that I
see, they're like in in relationto things that are presented as
medications that are clearly notlegitimate medications.
Like even when they're saying things like, oh, this particular
medication and you're like, thatisn't even out of trials yet.

(54:40):
How can you be selling that medication?
How can you even have it in youron your person?
It is not even approved for human consumption.
How are you selling it and. But it's not.
Yeah, I know. Saying it's it, but it's not it.
It's just we did a deep dive into this once, didn't we Paddy?
Yeah, well, it was. It was part of the, well, this

(55:01):
was the other thing that like part of the RT Investigates
program from December found thatsome of the medications
contained some element of the medications, but they didn't
tell us what percentage, like how all this kind of stuff.
But The thing is, there is no testing done on what you're
buying. You have no idea where it's come
from. You have no idea what chemicals
are in it. So please, please, please,
please, please, please prioritize your body, your body,

(55:24):
and just lean on trusted sourceslike your doctor, your
pharmacist, and legitimate prescribers you know.
Yeah, be careful. It's not worth it.
Belinda, what else is happening over the next week?
What's happening here? What's happening in your life?
Like what's going on? What can we look forward?
To umm, oh, we can look forward to some more.

(55:44):
Holder, we can't. Yeah, this is bank holiday
weekend. One of my kids has got five
whole days off. What's that about?
Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Mondayand beckon Tuesday.
But I tell you one thing Paddy, I went shopping today so I will
be posting a lot of outfit of the day content.
Something to look forward to. What else?

(56:07):
Oh yes, Paddy has. Gosh, Saturday you've got your
movement room going on as well. Look, are you remembering
something? I know.
I also went to the doctor about my memory the other day.
It was only yesterday actually. Look at that.
Oh, blood test. Bloods.
Yeah, I'm also getting a brain scan.
Don't take long. Well, let's see if there's one

(56:29):
in there first, buddy. Well, let's see.
Let's see, we can. We can check that right now.
One SEC bit hollow. Not funny at all.
Yeah, I'm kicking you. Out you tell me what you've got
going on, apart from your movement room, which is on
Saturday morning. And if you go to ptpaddy.com,

(56:51):
you can join. Yes, and you'll see any future
dates up there if you'd be able to begin to and all that kind of
stuff. Umm, so I've that's I've nothing
else planned for the weekend. Oh, that's.
Amazing. Like don't get wrong with
9,000,000 things that I could bedoing, but at the moment, no,
I've nothing planned as such. So I started hiding the kitchen

(57:12):
yesterday, but I'm in that stagewhere now I know what you're
going to say. I've been tied in the kitchen
since last summer. But like the he has.
I have, yeah. Umm, I started hiding in the
kitchen, but it's going through that stage like it has to get
worse before it gets better. You know what I mean?
Like it gets. Messier, I don't think that's
how your house should work. No, but if you're tidying a

(57:34):
room, it's going to get messier before like it's.
Always see what you mean? Yes, yes, yes.
While you're, while you're tidying, while.
You're tidying. Waiting and allowing it to get.
More Oh no no no no, no. Like I pulled a load of stuff
out of the cupboards yesterday so now it's all on the kitchen
table. Yeah.
And that's OK, because you're inthe process.
I just don't know where it's going to go now like I this

(57:57):
problem like. Yeah, who's those ladies that do
that? What was it, Brendan Brown?
Oh, I didn't think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sue and Aggie?
No. What's that?
I could do do do do do before mytime and. 50 next year.
I. Am I love it.

(58:19):
What am? I I've no, I have no more news,
Paddy. Oh, we have news.
Should we have news? Is there anything else happened?
No, I don't think, no, I'm goingto a in two weeks time, 2 weeks
time, 2 weeks time, one week's time, one week's time.
Oh my God, one week's time. I'm going to like a cousins

(58:43):
reunion. Oh yeah.
It's like things me and some of my cousins in Arma are getting
together. Yeah.
To kind of catch up. Not something that we've done
really before and stuff like that.
And, you know, as people pass away and stuff like that and you
kind of don't have your aunts and uncles and stuff and you're
kind of like, oh, you know, we want to keep that connection.

(59:04):
So, yeah. So the few of our cousins kind
of getting together, we're goingto meet up for food, have a few
drinks, that kind of thing. And just.
Oh, I love that. That's such a good idea.
Cannot wait. Yeah, I can't wait.
Really looking forward to that. Yeah.
So that's, that's exciting. That is on, Yeah.
In just over a week's time, thatis.
Yeah. So that's nice.
Umm, I think that is all Belindaand that we have to be talking

(59:25):
about. You're not, you know, talking to
someone else there off camera. That's fine.
I'll just. I'm not.
Would I do that? Never.
Right, Well folks, look it have a wonderful day whenever you're
listening to this and. You're walking, having some
peaceful time. Yeah, well, that's not peaceful,
but us in the rear isn't. It isn't fair.
Yeah. And if you didn't listen to the

(59:45):
last week's podcast with Carla work, please do such an amazing
episode with Carl. Yes.
Who is the IT was? Really good.
Brilliant conversation. Yeah, he's really good.
Yeah, absolutely excellent. And he and of.
Course, you can look back as well.
We have Ashling the week before that and then we have the star
of the whole season. Which was me.

(01:00:09):
Professor Mick Crotty from My Best Ways.
And then of course we had Donna as well.
She was fantastic. As well.
Yeah, so like. Who did we have on this season,
Paddy? Umm oh crikey, now you're
putting me on the spot and. I don't think that that.
I don't think that that was it for this this season, isn't it?

(01:00:31):
But and I can. Stand in between.
I can barely remember like yesterday, let alone I don't
know. How I'm remembering this
actually, to be honest with you.So I think I'm going to quit
while I'm ahead. Thanks everyone for listening.
Enjoy the podcast, by the way, next.
How many, how many episodes are we doing in Season 2?
We haven't decided on that yet. No, because I think this is

(01:00:51):
still anybody, OK? Because this is episode 10, I
think. Yeah, this episode 10 is Season
2 already. I think we're going to do about
12 then maybe. All right, OK, right, OK.
Anyway folks look at thank you so much for tuning in.
We always appreciate it and as it feel free to get in touch
Hello at the dose dot IE we willreply within probably 12 months.

(01:01:13):
That's not true. That's.
Not true. Paddy is really good at doing
that. Actually I'm.
I'm actually not. I'm not.
No. Will I?
Will I? Paddy, shall I take it over?
No. And give me a.
Little bit a bit of responsibility.
No, no, unless you put it in your diary and the so your diary

(01:01:33):
that was going to fix your life,you.
Know I haven't. It's downstairs.
OK, OK. And the other thing that we're
going to say is, as always, really, really would appreciate
if you haven't done a review on Spotify or iTunes, wherever
you're listening. That really, really helps us and
helps the community to kind of know about the podcast.
So please give us a little rating, do a little review,
click follow, subscribe, download whatever it is in your

(01:01:55):
app that allows you to do not block that one.
And if you don't like the podcast, e-mail us.
That supposed to do as a review,but.
If you don't like it, tell us. If you love it, tell everybody
else. Yeah, exactly.
Alrighty folks, take care. Bye.
Bye, hi. None of this conversation should

(01:02:15):
be taken as medical advice for you.
Before starting or changing any medical or Wellness treatment,
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