Body Image - seeing isn't always believing

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This episode dives deep into the emotional complexities surrounding body image during a weight loss journey, examining how perceptions can often lag behind physical changes.

Paddy shares his experiences with body image over the years, while Belinda reflects on societal beauty standards and the influence of social media on self-esteem. Our conversation delves into the dynamics of relationships during weight loss journeys.

We also chat about the Drama Llama that sometimes comes with putting content out online, and how its so important to engage with social media accounts that make you feel good and help you on your journey as opposed to try to bring people down and body shame.

Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.

None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.

We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach.

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• TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@mounjaropaddy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Find Belinda Here:
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•TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@bells.mj.insights

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Belinda, what are you doing with the phone?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Adding to my stories.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
What that you're recording the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, I'll tag you.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh, your weekly little bit of dance movement.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yep, love it.
Has anybody.
Have you had any issues withInstagram today?
It's been a bit glitchy for me.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Belinda, it's not like you to have issues with
technology.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I know it's so rare.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
No, I actually haven't been on Instagram that
much today, because I've had avery busy, busy day, so there's
some worries.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, you're always busy.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, such is life.
How are things, belinda, what'sgoing on?
Good now.
Yeah, you're always busy.
Yeah, such is life.
How are things, belinda, what'sgoing on?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Good now.
Good, good, good.
There's been a lot going onthis week.
Paddy Hasn't there.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, there has been a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
There has been a lot, yeah, oh God, there's been a
lot of trolling, has there?
Yeah, there has.
There's been a lot of trolling,has there?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, there has.
Have you not noticed?
No, no, I haven't at all.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
There's been a lot of partnerships going on.
Big congratulations to ourPaddy from.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, so I finally this week kicked off my
partnership with my BMI which iswww.
Thank you, wwwmy-bmiie.
Wwwmy-bmiie, who are now thefirst start-to-finish service
that can support you with yourweight loss treatment in the

(01:57):
Republic of Ireland in terms ofdelivering it to your front door
.
So, from the moment that you dothat initial step of doing
consultation through to gettingit through your door, they're
looking after that full servicefor you, which is and, by the
way, this is not a sponsoredmessage or an ad- at all.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Just let you know.
We're just telling you what'sgoing on in our life and just
saying congratulations to Paddyand also congratulations to my
BMI for choosing Paddy.
Great choice, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Thank you very much, but like that is a partnership
aside, even like we alluded tothis before Christmas that it's
just brilliant to see anotheryou know access route for people
to the medication.
You know, like with the service, you go online, you do your
consultation online.
Once you have your consultationand assuming you're approved,

(02:43):
then the medication willliterally be dispatched and
delivered to you and that allhappens within like two to three
days from start to finish.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You have to do your unboxing, Paddy, as well, yes, I
will, so we can see the coldchain and what it's like in that
that's saying it's deliveredcold chain from their pharmacy
partner in Armagh.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
It is just yeah brilliant, Brilliant, I'd say.
I've had so many people messageme saying that they're finally
able to get on this journey in asafe way.
And this was one of the thingsbecause, like I've had other,
we've both had brands come to usabout different things over the
months and the years.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
A lot.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And I know no more than myself.
You know, one thing that we'reboth really passionate about is
that patient safety and howethical is a brand and stuff
like that and are we comfortablewith?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
things and being authentic?
Yeah, and are we comfortableand does it align with our?
You know, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So like when like I had two other like prescribing
type companies approach meduring the second half of last
year and first when I said nofor various reasons.
Second one I explored a littlebit more, but then it wasn't the
right fit either.
So then when my bmi got intouch with me, um, I wrecked

(03:59):
their heads with questions I wasgonna say you put them through
it, paddy.
I grilled them absolutelygrilled them about their patient
safety, their start to finishprocess, their pricing, cold
chain delivery.
You know, verifying people arewho they say they are when
they're accessing the medicationsupport like so many, your

(04:20):
local doctor and everything.
Yeah, so many things and likeeven this week I sent them all
feedback and stuff and they'vebeen so quick.
Like honestly, they've justbeen kudos to them, but anyway
as I say this.
You know it's not an ad oranything, but just brilliant if
you're looking for do you knowwhat?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I get a lot of Paddy.
I get a lot of product people,and it's just not.
I just have, don't want to haveanything to do with it, nothing
.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I got one and I'm not going to talk about it too much
, but I shared it with you.
The product that approached methis week and my reply back to
them literally was I'm blindenough.
Can you show me the clinicaltrial supporting you know to
evidence what it is you'resaying.
I haven't heard from them.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, but listen unless it was something
that I have been using for years, or something that I've
recently started using, orwhatever, and I can actually
speak of it and speak to it andits relevance and you know how
it works or whatever.
I don't yeah.
And you know what, paddy?

(05:24):
There are so many people outthere that are literally just
selling their souls.
Oh, you know 100 percent yeah100.
And then there's people outthere that are trying to be
influencers or content creatorsyeah but you know, I was talking
to um, a brand manager, and shewas telling me that what's more

(05:50):
sought after now is microinfluencers, yeah, people that
are under 25 000, that have,that are more authentic and have
a better connection with theirum followers and stuff like that
, like myself and yourself, youknow.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, 100%.
So like this one thing, like Iwas even amazed, so like the
reel that I put up, the firstpaid partnership reel that I put
up, or TikTok the other day.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
That gave you so much work.
Like yeah, like I was going tothink it was mind numbing.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, but like it was phenomenal to see, I thought do
you know what this is?
I know my video is aboutIreland specific and access
within Ireland.
Typically they do well, so Ithought you know what.
I might get 20 to 30,000 viewson this, of which a high
percentage will be from Ireland,and that would be phenomenal in
terms of our goal of brandawareness for the brand that I'm

(06:39):
working with, so like we are at.
So what day is this?
It's like.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, so it's just over three days, yeah, since I
put that video live, and thatvideo has been viewed now by
70,000 people.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Lovely.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Of which 85% of those are in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Wow.
So where's the other 15 then?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
So the United Kingdom has taken up over 11%, and then
other countries, small littlebits, and that's kind of what
I'd expect, that kind ofbreakdown.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
But like, in terms of that like again, I only have on
TikTok, what followers?
I'll just check here.
Like I have 8,600 followers onTikTok, which by TikTok
standards isn't massive, is alot?
Well, no, it is, it is.
Well, I mean like, maybe forthe niche that I'm in?
Yeah, maybe it is.
But I think what it kind ofshows is that even if you are a

(07:42):
micro, I don't like the wordinfluencer, creator.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, creator kind of shows is that?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
even if you are a micro I don't like the word
influence, creator, creator,yeah, um, and you're creating
content that is relevant topeople, you can still get a
massive reach you know, really,really massive reach like my.
My most viral tiktok over thereis about um, don't make this
mistake when you're startingmanjaro, and that's at nearly
half a million views, which iscrazy mental, but then your
reels as well.
Like you know, you have waymore followers than me.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, but I'm not on TikTok.
I have like 700 followers onTikTok.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
But that's only a new account.
It's only open like a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I know, but I just TikTok just drives me wild and I
think the feedback that I getfrom you about TikTok as well,
it's like the Wild West overthere.
I think the feedback that I getfrom you about tiktok as well,
it's like the wild west overthere.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I just feel that people are so much more mature
over on instagram and then, likeyou, still have mental people
on instagram as well.
Yeah, what can you do?
Yeah, it's um, I think yeah,interestingly enough, go on no,
what I was going to say is whatI find on tiktok.
Is that as well?
People might watch the firstfew seconds and get the headline
and then ask you a question,and I'm like oh, I'm not but do
you have, you have you haveanswered that all week

(08:56):
yeah and I don't mean just thisvideo in general.
Um, so I do like I used to tryand answer the people and now,
in fairness, the last few days Ihave, i've've answered, I think
, pretty much every singleperson that they commented on
the video, just to make surethat you know they're getting a
good experience as well, becausethat is important to me still.
But on Instagram, I'm like justsending them a video.

(09:16):
I'm like this is alreadycovering the video here you go,
it's already covering the video.
Like for neither of us, belinda,this isn't.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
This isn't our job no , god, no, we're only here for
the crack like like I have twojobs that I kind of do.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I have one full time job, one kind of part time the
radio.
Then on the part time job is myradio.
I have a full time job Mondayto Friday and then I have my
yeah, my weekend job or not myweekend, I can't get my words
out.
My part-time job is the radio,but then, like the gym, no more
than yourself, we have ourworkout stuff.
You know, january I'm doing the5K day thing.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
As well.
You're killing it with that.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, so, like social media can definitely be
something that can be a take upa lot of time.
It can be hugely rewarding andthe biggest thing from that
video for me is the amount ofDMs I got and emails this week
actually, which is rare frompeople saying, oh my God, this
is such a relief, I can now moreeasily access the medication

(10:13):
and like that's why we do whatwe do.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know, to help people see that light.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Not to help people that will look at a video for
three and a half seconds andthen ask you what, where is it?
Where is this available inireland?
Just stop, can you just stopand leave paddy alone.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Just watch the reel, all right, don't I don't mind,
just watch the full reel wow,belinda's in full mum mode today
, so she's because I've likegiven out all day long.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, since I got home from school, I'm a bit
nicer.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'll be like.
I'll do my best to get back toyou, but it's a good.
But it's a good, but it's agood chance that the answer
might be in one of my othervideos, you know but if not, let
me know, let me know.
So, belinda, would we go to ourtopic or will we keep talking
about social media?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Because separate, did that?
Yeah, go to our topic, go toour topic.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
So what are we talking about this week?
Belinda?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, Paddy, I've asked you three times and you
won't tell me.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
This is where Paddy pulls up voice notes from.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
WhatsApp.
Don't you fucking dare, Paddy,oh God.
Paddy's told me three timeswhat the subject is and I can't
remember.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, literally before we're hopping into it.
No, no, no, I'm not finished.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But in fairness, I know that I was told and I know
that I spent time thinking aboutit.
So as soon as you tell me, allmy thoughts will come flooding
back into my head.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Brilliant, brilliant.
So if I was to say the words,let's see body image.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Nope, that's not.
It Is that it.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh my God, we literally have voice notes about
this, belinda.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
God, I love this.
I love this.
Oh my God, oh my god, I lovethis.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I love this.
Oh my god, oh my poor, my poorriddled perimenopausal mind is
just.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, fake it till you, make it brother, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Shall we restart this recording now from the start
yeah, so on today's episode,myself and Paddy will be talking
about body image, and I'm justgoing to get my notes out
brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Here's some I prepared earlier and I love
we're recording this as well.
So if you want to see thefacial reactions to this, pop
over to the YouTube, where thisvideo will be uploaded as well.
Fix your glasses there, belinda.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I just did, yes.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
So where this I guess is stemming from is a couple of
things.
One of the things for me is Ihave lost like 91 and a half
pounds now, and when I look inthe mirror, as much as I know in

(13:35):
my head I have lost that amountof weight, I still see the love
handles, the fat tummy, thebingo wings, the fat legs.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Is that all you see?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like I can rationalize it and know that,
yes, my body is smaller.
But I noticed it the other daybecause I was chatting to
somebody in their house and Ifound myself pulling the t-shirt
yeah reaching for the cushionlike and I was like in that

(14:17):
moment I was like why am I doingthis?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
we do that, everybody does that.
Every single person that hashad weight or has weight will
always sit and throw a cushionover them.
Not every single person butmost people that I know.
I've always done it.
I have.
There's never been a point inmy life where I haven't done
what you did, like pulling anddragging out my clothes and oh

(14:40):
just, it's awful, it's awful.
Oh just, it's awful.
It's awful, but like?
Do you feel, even though yourbody image when you look in the
mirror, do you think that youridentity has shifted with the
weight, that you've lost the wayyou feel inside?
Do you feel like you're thesame person, the same, not in a
negative way, but the same oldPaddy negative way, but the same

(15:01):
old paddy.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I, I feel more, I do feel more confident about things
yeah but then as soon assomebody says oh jeez, you're
looking great, I just like ohawkward.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Oh, you should have seen me this morning, or?
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah butthat's a very, very irish thing
as well.
The inability to take acompliment is huge in our
society, isn't it, you know?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
but like even this t-shirt I'm wearing this is a
t-shirt from bigger paddy dayslike this t-shirt for people who
can't say, like this is thist-shirt is massive yeah, again,
you're just wearing that aroundthe house though.
No, I'd wear this because in mymind it's Grand Clothes I wear,
even though, yeah, I think itties in with this whole bit that

(15:56):
Our heads not catching upsometimes with the journey that
we've had and the progress thatwe've had.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, but do you know that what that is at the core
of all of it, it's bodydysmorphia yeah, yeah, it really
is, it really is and I think itbecause maybe it happened to
you so quickly, paddy yeah umquicker than than the norm yeah
like I've had two years to getused to the weight that I've
lost yeah just nearly to.

(16:23):
I'm closer to two and a halfyears.
Yeah, to get used to that.
And for me it happened slowlyand I was working at it.
I worked every inch, I workedevery pound, not saying that you
didn't, but yours was just bang.
Yeah, you know, I suppose itwould be um the same, uh, along
the same lines as somebody whowould have had weight loss

(16:44):
surgery yeah I think that.
I think that's the trajectory,yeah, of weight loss for them
also, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
yeah, yeah, I like I mean I'd assume so like I know a
few people that have had, likesay, bariatric surgery and that,
and again a tough journey aswell and decision for people.
I don't know what the info ison how quickly you lose weight
after that.
If it's comparable, I know thetotal amount that potentially
can be lost is comparable toMunjarra specifically, but I

(17:14):
don't know the speed.
It'd actually be interesting toget somebody on.
That'd be interesting, yeah, Iknow like obviously we had Rob
on one of our podcasts Of course.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
yeah, rob, on one of our podcasts.
Yeah, before Christmas.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
And if you haven't heard that podcast with myself
and Rob, it's literally justmyself and Rob, man to man,
having a conversation about ourlives with weight from a male
perspective, and I'd reallyencourage you to go back and you
know listen to that.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's brilliant.
It's brilliant.
It gave such an insight I'vesaid it before on the podcast as
well.
It gave such an insight into'vesaid it before on the podcast
as well.
It gave such an insight intothe male perspective, which is
something we do not hear we donot we have not heard it.
That's the first time I'veheard anybody ever talking about
it.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Males talking about it like that, you know, yeah, so
like the other thing is I wasup in belfast at the weekend and
I was going to Penny's.
When I'm up there, now that Ican shop in Penny's, like now,
that I can actually, you know,it's not just socks that fit me,
I'm Penny's you know, mustforever bind scarves and
earrings.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, literally.
Yeah Well, not earrings, butyeah Well, you could.
If you wanted to, could haveSince the referendum.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
But if you wanted to cut it since the referendum, but
like and it's mad, my go-tostill is instantly back of the
rail.
Back of the rail, yes, 100%.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Biggest size where the larger sizes are yeah, yeah
now I'm able to shop in penniesas well.
I've only been able to do itonce in my life before, and that
was when I lost my weight onketo.
I've gone.
I've gone lower, lower now thanthe weight that I lost on keto,
thank god, and I'm loving beingable to like I've never been

(18:56):
able to buy.
Even something like this isextra large yeah.
I got this the other day and Ihave the black of it and gonna
get the bubble gum pink of, butI've never been able to buy
anything like that ever.
And it's so trendy at themoment the fourth arc stuff that
everybody's wearing them andI've never been able to wear
clothes that everybody's wearing, and same as yourself probably,
paddy as well you know, and itis, it does affect you, it

(19:20):
really does affect you, you know.
It's horrible it's.
It really does affect you, youknow.
Yeah, it's horrible, it's, it'srotten and it makes you feel
like an it just it makes youfeel like an outsider yeah even
more so than your weight itselfmakes you feel like you're an
outsider.
It just puts another goddamnlayer on top of all the shit
that comes with having weight onyour body.

(19:40):
Yeah, you know, you know, yeah,no definitely Like brand wise.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
For me, like, gymshark is one of like the
biggest brands in the world andit's a brand that I love.
Their backstory as well, benFrancis and stuff there Hugely
inspirational story If you'reinto entrepreneurship or
entrepreneur life and stuff likethat.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's basically this young guy that set up making
T-shirts himself in his own room, like essentially to this one
off, if not the biggest atleisure wear brands in the world
.
Now it's just phenomenal storyand he's a good guy.
So now, like I used to try andorder and I think I have here

(20:24):
they did some things in liketriple XL, like shorts and stuff
.
So I had some of those that werestill a bit, you know, comfy
around the thighs, but I wouldhave bought them, and then I was
able to get the double XL.
And then I'm now able to getthe.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
XL Do you?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's where I'm at as well.
Yeah, I'm now able to get theXL.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Do you know what I mean?
That's where I'm at as well.
Yeah, and like that's an XLfrom a brand that is aimed at
predominantly fit gym goingpeople, you know.
So, as we know, XL in one brandcan be quite different from
another.
So when I was over in Londonthere a while ago, like to go
into their store and to be ableto walk around and know that.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
I can pretty much buy anything here.
Yeah, and I got from.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Belfast I went into Gym Plus Coffee and got actually
like a really nice pair ofshorts.
That they, they, they fit rightyeah and that might sound like
such a simple thing, but I'velived in the majority of my the
last 25 years, not worryingabout something fitting right,

(21:31):
but about something that cancover my body.
Do you know?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
I'll tell you now, Paddy.
I do not know what it's like tohave a pair of comfortable
jeans.
Like to have a pair ofcomfortable jeans?
Yeah, I've never had a pair ofcomfortable jeans in my life
purely because I was buying them, because I thought that they
covered the you know yeah me,yeah, 100, I get it.
Yeah, absolutely get it I Irecently bought um an under

(21:59):
armor t-shirt and an under armor, pair of leggings, and when I
tell you, these goddamn leggingsfelt like butter on my skin.
I've never felt material likeit on my body, because I've
never been able to fit intoanything like that.
You know, and um, it's got andagain.
That's just another reason forme to keep going, because I want

(22:22):
to be able to wear the nicethings in the gym, because I'm
enjoying the gym so much morenow like I, paddy, I never I was
talking about this with myfriend mel today and like I have
never in my life ever thoughtthat the words would come out of
my mouth that I just love goinginto that gym I can love it.
You should be so proud, thoughlike I am, I am, I am, I am like

(22:46):
, imagine, I really am.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, I'm good because, like, imagine if I said to you
six months ago uh sure, butyou'll be in the gym in no time.
Now you'll be lifting weightand doing this.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
We're like no not, no , no, I did a um hip thrust.
Uh, hip thrusts yesterday yeahyeah, and what did I do?
I think I went from maybe justhaving a barbell yeah of like 7
kg and I was able to do um 30 kgyesterday brilliant, like

(23:17):
that's amazing yeah.
I know it's really good and I've, and even I went to um aqua
aerobics today after I went tothe gym and I thought to myself,
yeah, I'll get in here, but I Ifeel now that I've outgrown it.
I feel that I need more yeahfrom it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I might, um, maybe swap the aqua aerobics for
lengths, swimming lengths now,yeah yeah, like that is like I
said last week, I'm back with mystrength coach now, after after
christmas um, so I'm back withhim again tomorrow.
Um, and I was doing a new movethe other day when I was in the
gym by myself and I thought, oh,that's that's, uh, that's

(23:57):
challenging me, something reallybasic.
But I was like, oh, that'schallenging me, that feels good,
you know, it feels good to getsomething that hits your body in
a different way and I think,you know, if you're finding that
from the gym um, versus, say,the aqua aerobics or that, then
it, but you still enjoy being inthe water, then that's where
it's good to.
Okay, how can I keep the waterelement off this?
But mix it up a bit, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I'll never let go.
I'll never let go of the water.
I'll always want to dosomething in the water.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I am missing at the moment.
I don't have like I have.
I have two gym memberships, soI do I pretty much always have
In two different gyms.
Yeah, so one is my main gym.
I've been in it for years.
Really like, love the peoplethat own the gym, love the gym.

(24:43):
They've invested so much in it.
It is phenomenal, like it'sjust, it's literally a
world-class standard.
The gym that they have, oh,which is ROM and Sligo, range of
Motion and Sligo, it is just,honestly, it will give any gym
in Ireland a run for its moneywith how much they've invested
in it and the, the calibre andthe amount of equipment that

(25:04):
they've in there.
So that's kind of the main onethat I'm in and they've
brilliant classes and theinstructors and everything.
And then I have a membershipfor the other I'll say more
budget type gym.
It's a 24 hour one.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Is that where you go to have your PT sessions and
stuff?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, that's in Rome, so it is, that's in the main gym
.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh right, Okay yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
But sometimes what I'll do is I'll go.
I like to just to change yourscenery, sometimes as well.
So sometimes I'll go in just todo either a spin class in the
other one or just to go for awalk on the treadmill, because
the TV's built in, you know, andthat kind of stuff.
So I'll go there sometimes tomix it up.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's green and stuff yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
But like one thing I don't have at the moment is
somewhere I can go for likejacuzzi, sauna, steam room.
Now my main gym is actuallyputting in a sauna, so there,
which will be cool.
But I was thinking that I waslike I had some notion, was like
yesterday, I was like I'dreally love, love to just go and
go into the pool now.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Do you not have a local pool where you are now?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
We do.
I've not been in there since Iwas a child, so I might, I might
try and suss it out.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I don't even know how much it is.
We might surprise you yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, because I, you, I love being in the water I
love it yeah yeah, I just sinceI was a kid, I loved it yeah, I.
I just I'm like ariel from thelittle mermaid.
You know I'm oh patty I lovehow.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I love that.
That's how you see yourselfwithout the seashells bra yeah,
and the green eyeliner I can dothat eyeshadow yeah um so paddy,
let me just ask you like haveyou noticed, then lingering kind
of insecurities, even thoughyou have lost nearly 100 pounds

(26:48):
now?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
oh, absolutely oh, yeah, yeah because it's still
there that I still have a fattychest.
I have a fatty tummy, lovehandles, but I am aware it's
smaller I am.
But there is definitely stillthat thing of do you know?

(27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
But like your shape has changed though.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
so much you know that yeah, and my shape, my shape
has changed as well, and it'schanging even more now than
since I've went into the gym.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You know the the thing is if you say, lost
another 30 pounds, I I stilldon't think that, those thoughts
, those insecurities, I don'tthink they will ever leave us.
I think that that's our, that'sjust what we'll be holding on
for.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know, like, yeah, it'll be interesting to see
because, like when I lost theweight after the Biggest Loser,
because I started regaining soquickly again after that, I
didn't have a period of timereally to sit with that new
weight and see how did my mindcatch up your thinner weight.

(28:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
When you like, right, okay yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
So like, yeah, and that's why this time, obviously,
the hope and the expectation isthat this will be maintained.
The hope and the expectation isthat this will be maintained.
So I'm curious to see how doesthe brain catch up eventually,
or what happens, or you know.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, it's all very new, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (28:28):
It is, it is.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And that's the thing, and I've never maintained
anything either no more so thanyou have.
You know, and that's what'sbringing more and more people to
this medication is the factthat you don't relapse into, you
know, binge eating or whateverit was that got you to the state
of us yeah, yeah it's you know,yeah yeah it is interesting.

(28:55):
Have you found?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
sorry, go on no, I was going to go on a different
topic there.
Go ahead though.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, no, just wondering like has your weight
loss ever back then and now?
Has it ever changed thedynamics of any relationship
that you've had?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh.
So this is something that cameup last week at an event when I
was talking to somebody and theysaid to me it's amazing how
people are nicer to you now whenyou've lost weight.
And it made me think I wouldlike Believe it or not.

(29:36):
Whilst I know a lot of peoplethrough different walks of life
and different things, I've donemy, my circle of kind of friends
is is pretty small.
It's, it's, I'd say, very small.
So I don't think I've seen adifference with those people.
But one of the changes I'vemaybe seen a bit more in myself

(29:57):
is that it's giving me moreconfidence to know my value a
bit more, know my worth a bitmore.
And I don't mean financially, Imean like in terms of just
general day to day.
Yeah, being a human.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
And like I will always say and have always said
that, like your shape, weightand your size don't determine
your value or worth as a as aperson, but equally I know
that's easy.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Save that though absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It is easier said but it is something I would
reinforce with myself.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
But I'm starting to feel that I'm able to actually
live that out as well now that Ican actually feel confident day
to day so the thing is, patty,listen, what I think about this
is if we are walking around andwe have all this weight on our
body, I know from my experiencethat I've I have, in situations

(30:47):
um drawn back from things I havein situations made myself
smaller.
I've not brought attention onmyself due to the fact that I'm
not secure.
I wasn't secure in the way thatI looked.
Therefore, I don't think that Ican expect anybody else to
treat me any different than that, because that's what I'm giving

(31:07):
out and what.
I'm giving out is exactly whatI'm going to get back.
So when we say, you know, ohyeah, people definitely treat me
different, I'm being differentyeah, yes, you're being
different very definitely.
Yeah, you know, and that's thepoint of it really, and I know
people say, oh, you know, uh,thinness is equated to, you know

(31:29):
, um success or whatever, but itcertainly does help.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, unfortunately, particularly when you see some
of the comments online on someof the articles that people put
up and the way that peoplerespond to each other and stuff
like that, you can definitelysee the bias that there is
towards people who are livingwith, you know, obesity or
overweight, which is shocking asthere.

(31:57):
So it's no no wonder we havedeveloped that kind of no wonder
, yeah, of course yeah, yeah,you know, let me which came
first, though chicken or the egg?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
yeah, I mean yeah, that's the hard thing, isn't it,
you know?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
well, I mean, if you look at some social media,
certainly didn't help?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
no, definitely not.
But this if you look at somecultures Social media certainly
didn't help.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
No, definitely not.
But if you look at somecultures and some statuses over
the years in history, being abigger person was a status of
success because it was deemedthat you could buy more food,
you could buy nice things youknow this kind of thing and you
were able to have a more lavishlifestyle.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Paddy, I lived in Indonesia, in Bali, about three
or four times right, and I amnot joking you.
I used to get on the bus overthere, or a katuk as they were
called.
It cost you like 2p to get fivemiles and people, the locals,
used to come up and feel my skinand they used to touch my arm
and squeeze my arm and they usedto equate that with wealth.

(32:56):
And the whiter you were, thewealthier you were, the fatter
you were.
The more flesh you had on yourbody, the wealthier you were.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's crazy, it's mad, it is yeah but definitely I
think, as you say, that's one ofthe things.
We've touched on this a littlebit before, but like social
media and some of the negativeeffect of it, but I would hope,
I would really hope thathopefully from some of the
content that we individually putout and jointly put out, like
on the podcast and that andsimilar accounts that share

(33:28):
positivity and belonging andcommunity, as opposed to try and
bring people down.
That hopefully through thosetypes of accounts that people
are finding places in theirsocial media now that make them
feel good about life as opposedto the opposite, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And also just FYI if there is shit on your feed that
you do not like, just don'tengage with it.
If you engage with it.
That's all you will see.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Just click.
Do not like like why am I?
Seeing this blah, blah, blahjust do everything you can to
curate your feed to help whatyou want to see 100, 100, like I
have unfollowed so many people.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I have muted so many people as well.
Um, just because it's like, no,you're not supportive of me on
this journey, on this healthiermind, on this goal of what I'm
trying to work towards, um soyou do.
You have to protect yourselfyeah, you do, you do.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
There was the most, uh, uh, awful, most dreadful
reel that I seen today, and Iwon't even say what it was about
.
It was about aP-1, but it wassomebody degrading people for
going on a GLP-1 medication andblah, blah, blah, all the rest
of it.
And one of the lovely girls inthe States that I follow she had
written this big piece about.
You know how judgmental it isand I can't believe that you, as

(34:51):
a coach, are putting out thiscontent and there were so many
people that said the same thingand I just kept looking at it
going.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Don't comment, belinda don't comment, but I had
to.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I just had to, and then I had to block her because
I never want to see her againyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But I will say I I thought it was going to be
something different until yousaid block her because uh,
there's oh yeah there's beensimilar, obviously in the uk,
with a coach over there, and wealluded to this before in a
previous podcast as well.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
But, um, yeah, yeah, I was going to say something
just what we were talking abouta moment ago as well that you
know that relationships that youhave sometimes change when you
lose weight.
Um, back in 2018, I had afriend a really.
I've seen her every day.
We worked together, we went tothe slimming rooms together.

(35:41):
I was her cheerleader while shelost 10 stone and I had lost, I
think, 21 pounds while she waslosing her 10 stone.
But that was my life.
That's what I was used tohappening to me watching
everybody else around me succeed, when I didn't know what was
wrong with me and that was fineanyway.

(36:02):
And she hurt her leg and shecouldn't do all the things that
she would have done to kind ofmaintain that weight loss and
kind of started putting it backon again slowly, slowly, and
then I went on keto and when yougo on keto, it for for the
first like month or so it justit's like you deflate you know,

(36:22):
and that was happening to me,and without warning, without
anything, she blocked me out ofher life yeah and I have never
laid eyes on her.
And that was 2018, that is sixyears ago, and I've never laid
eyes on her never it, just it'sheartbreaking when that happens,

(36:44):
though at times as well.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I still I don't think I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I still don't think I'm over it, because it was so
abrupt like nobody could believe.
My family couldn't even believeit, you know.
But look it says more about herthan it does about me.
I'm sure, but it's a tough leg.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, I had a thing recently.
I'm not going to go into it toomuch because I don't want to
make it too identifiable but ohI don't care, she knows exactly
who she is Bitch.
How dare you block my window?
But yeah, I guess one of like Ihad so much happened last year

(37:25):
that it could be a whole seriesof podcasts in its own right,
the stuff that kind of justchanges in life and stuff like
that and I'm not going to saylike it was a bad year at all,
just stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That occurred.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, there was a lot of noise last year throughout
various months, but one of thethings well, two of the things I
think that really stuck with meas I was thinking about the end
of the year and starting intothis year, and that was one.
That thing I was thinking aboutthe end of the year and
starting into this year and thatwas one that I mentioned
earlier about.
You know, be confident in yourown value as a human.

(38:03):
That's kind of stuck with me.
And then another one was I justhave a frog in my throat.
The other thing was friends whoare friends will make time for
you.
Yeah, of course, and thatsounds so simple, but I just had

(38:29):
some realizations whereby ifyou are somebody that has ended
up doing you know, most of thechasing to try and maintain a
friendship or stuff like thatthat there reaches a point where
you're like, actually, Ideserve to be treated better
than this and I deserve forpeople to appreciate the fact

(38:50):
that I'm trying to you know,whatever, make time for them.
And if that's not reciprocated,we all have that.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I know where you're coming from.
With that's not reciprocated.
We all have that.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I know where you're coming from with that, yeah,
yeah.
You shouldn't have to youshouldn't have to try that hard
and that's not to say people cango through things in lives and,
you know, sometimes might get abit distant for a period of
time or whatever.
I do get that, but if it getsto the point where it's almost a
chore, yeah, or I think for meit was a sense of, even though

(39:25):
I've made this effort or donethis thing or whatever, this
person doesn't see me as apriority in their life in any
capacity.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
But you do.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, as a friend.
Yeah, as I say, my friendcircle is small, same Mine's
tiny.
A huge amount of acquaintanceslike a huge amount, but in terms
of people who I would be incontact with very regularly or
you know whatever chat aboutstuff like that, that'd be
pretty small.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
That's as you get older, though, paddy, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, because I think maybe part of it is you learn
the people that you know, as meand my little homies from
Wicklow.
You get to know your tribe, youget to know who your people you
know, and like I have myfriends from Wicklow in
particular that are just likewe're more than family almost,

(40:23):
and that sounds really cheesyand cliche but it's the truth.
And then I was over in Englandlast year and there was one of
my friends that I haven't seensince 2011 was the last time
that I saw him and he's marriednow and has baby and all this
kind of stuff.
Uh, I know how busy his life islike.

(40:45):
I know it is chock-a-block, howbusy his life is.
And when I sent him the messagejust saying, oh, because we'd
said loads of times, oh, youknow, it'd be lovely if you, you
know, got good over to visit,and we said that loads of years
I never did, but last year I andas soon as I pretty much said,
oh, I'm going to be over inReading, his response was
literally do I need to book aday off?
Like, let me know, make time,do something, you know, just

(41:09):
unconditional.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
It doesn't matter yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I am prioritising you .
I'm going to make sure that weget to hang out and we did and
it was just so, so lovely, likejust uh.
I guess reinforce that senseagain of the people who you
matter to will make sure thatyou matter to them like you know
that will make.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, they'll make an effort.
I have two of those friends.
I have um melanie and I havelouise, and they're both over in
Cornwall and just if I was toland in that country they would
just be there.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You know absolutely, yeah, but anyway, that's a bit
of a tangent, but I thinktangents are good on the podcast
sometimes because it justbrings a bit more of a human
side to things as well, doesn'tit?

Speaker 1 (41:55):
We do have a life.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Outside of podcasting and pissing around on Instagram
all day and injecting ourselveswith skinny jams.
So, paddy tell me, is thereanything else that happened this
week of note?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I think it kind of reinforced the idea as well that
social media can be a force forgood and support and
encouragement and buildingpeople up, or it can be a tool.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Oh, my dear God, paddy, don't spit it out, will
ya, paddy?
It can be a tool.
Oh, my dear God, paddy, don'tspit it out, will you, paddy?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
It can be a tool for bullying and nastiness and
aggressiveness, and I thinkmaybe you felt that a bit more
this week than me, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Mine didn't come until after yours, though
because, like we we had spokenearlier about your um
partnership going forward withmy bmi and how excited every
single person that knows you andthe amount of um positivity
you've gotten from people onlinethat you don't even know, that
you've never met everyone'sdelighted.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
But there was this, this presence online that was
determined, absolutelydetermined to it almost felt
tear down your win and thecompany that you are working for

(43:37):
, and yeah, I think, with likeworking with yeah, I think, um,
oh, it's an interesting onebecause, uh, I, I, I don't get
why a creator, a small creator,would try and bring down another

(44:02):
creator when they're lackingcontext on stuff they don't know
the information, as opposed toactually just reaching out to be
like hey, paddy, wasn't sureabout this from the video that
you put up, are you able toshare this information with me?
As opposed to going andcreating content then trying to
rip apart people or things orstuff like that.

(44:25):
Um, I, I don't get that mindset.
Well, I don't know.
Part of it is that, as peopleare people just trying to aren't
you lucky?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
you don't understand that mindset.
Yeah, I know, aren't you lucky?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
yeah, yeah, I think, I think some people, as I said
to you, some people, I think,just want to try to create drama
.
Lama Don't say that.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
What did I tell you the other day?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, I'm saying it, it's my word.
They want to create drama lamaso that they can seem relevant
and that they can seemknowledgeable, when in fact
they're deeply not yeah, at all,at all, yeah, and again I'm not
somebody that will usuallyspeak bad about people, you know
, because I'm like it's theirworld.
You don't know what's going onin their life, but it is part of
social media and it happened toboth of us and it was a really

(45:13):
negative experience.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
It certainly was for me, because I have never been
spoken about R2 like that in mylife and it was so aggressive,
like, so aggressive to like putmy lovely comment up there and
just tear it to pieces and welllook, what can you do?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
I think where there's a line for me is like uh, you
know you had put up a commentsaying oh, you know, such and
such is reputable.
Very nothing personal, this isthe difference?
Yeah, it was oh yeah, nothingpersonal.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
My BMI are an absolutely reputable company
like which they absolutely are.
Like it was a statement, that'sall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
So I think when something goes from being a
difference of opinion into apersonal attack on a person.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, it was a personal attack that crosses the
line.
That crosses the line, you know, and I think it was upsetting
as well.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I can imagine.
No, I can imagine.
Yeah, it was rotten, I thinkyou know the thing is, the main
person that was let down thereis.
That person has let downthemselves.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Oh, I blocked them immediately I did not respond.
I kept my mouth, kept mycounsel.
Yeah, yeah, that's what mymother told me.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Higher higher ground, and look at if that person is
listening to this podcast.
No doubt we've just given themfuel for some more videos.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, I know videos.
Yeah, you know.
Oh, yeah, I know, I hope she'snot listening only because I
don't want her to have anycontent be nice karma karma I
know, I know you're definitelyin a in a bold mood today.
So, yeah, I know that's becauseI have had to kill everybody in
the house today.
Well, obviously not kill themyeah, okay, but take that back
retract that yeah give out toeverybody, because I got my my

(47:03):
lovely new desk today from myfriend stacy and it's lovely and
it fits perfectly out on thelanding.
And then I organized to do apodcast recording with paddy
forgetting the house at fouro'clock for half four was going
to be mental.
Three kids, sean, two dogs inand out the front door, in and
out the back door screamingabout um, roast, spuds and chips

(47:25):
in the middle of doing homework, and, oh my God.
So I don't know where we'regoing to put this desk, but it
has to be moved.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I would love some roast potatoes.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Oh yeah, Sean does the best roast potatoes.
Did you know that Sean does allthe cooking in our house?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah, you've told me that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, all the cooking .
He's such a good cook.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I'm so lucky well, my new air fryer it's me, me, me
me which we spoke about.
Did we speak about it last weekor whatever, but like, oh my
god oh my god, that's amazing,paddy, isn't it?
Like.
So I got like.
I had an old air fryer that Iout for years and I got one of
like the big double drawer onesnow.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
That's what we have, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, because like we had some vouchers to use and
stuff, but like it's amazing, itis amazing.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I tried Just everything's done like that,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
I tried.
A few people had told me oh,you can do eggs in it, you can
do boiled eggs in it.
I was like what?
Yeah, boiled eggs.
And I was like what, yeah,boiled eggs, yeah.
So I did boiled eggs, boiledeggs this morning, 7 minutes on
170 is what I was told.
So I did it, and how?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
many did you put in.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Three.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And I prefer the normal way of boiling eggs.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Keen four.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
They were.
This is going to sound bizarre,but they tasted a bit dry, okay
.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Like when you took the shell off.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
When you took the shell off yeah, like your normal
boiled eggs are like reallyshiny and you know these weren't
so yeah, but everything elsehas been amazing.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I suppose if you were making a salad out of them,
like an egg salad or whatever,be grand like.
I'm going to do my frozen vegin it tonight, my chopped up
fresh frozen veg and my salmonas well.
Sean's after doing some kind ofpork steak roast dinner.
I'm not eating that.
Oh God, and whilst we're,talking about food.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
If you want to get a more in-depth conversation that
might be useful for you in termsof nutrition and starting out
in your journey, or restarting,refocusing whether you're on a
medicated weight loss or not.
Check out last week's podcast ahuge response.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, it's great actually huge response all about
nutrition, food and insightfrom us talking about our foods
and stuff like that, and so thatis last week's podcast.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Check it out if you haven't already I did my lunch
today and I put my lunch up oninstagram and I want to go back
later and have a look at thereactions, because I'm sure it
will have a lot of reactions.
It was a sandwich and a packetof crisps.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Oh, I see it there.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, doesn't it look lovely.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I don't know if I can show this for people on YouTube
.
Oh it's lovely.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, it's perfect Coming through perfect.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Are they hula hoops?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
They're the smart right hula hoops for Mald or
Lidl's or something smart right?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
is it smart?
Have they got AI built intothem or something?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I don't know.
Is that the name of them?
Is that the name of them, theproducts that come from those
shops?
I don't know it is it is, yeah,I don't know and if you go
forward, the calories and theingredients are there and you're
getting like 33 grams ofprotein in that meal and also
maybe near nine grams of fiber,I think.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Now it is 700 one have you coleslaw in your
sandwich no, yeah, sorry I knowI love coleslaw as well but.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I if I was to like coleslaw.
The stuff that you buy is very,very calorific, so I'd make my
own.
But the 770.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Wait, wait, wait, you would make your own, but no
Sean would make it for me.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah, I know, sorry, I know.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I don't do manual labour.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Well, I don't.
I don't cook.

(51:39):
Well, I do think, but the meal,well, the meal, the lunch was
770 calories.
So I'm sure I'm going to get ahorrendous backlash from that.
But the thing that I want tosay and I will say it later as
well in response to that is I'mon a calories or something like
that, with enough protein andfiber in it so I can pretty much
eat food like that as long as Iknow that my macros are in it.
you know, and I think peoplehave that really need to step

(52:00):
away from the diet mentalitywhen where GLP-1 medications are
concerned.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I definitely graze throughout the day.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
So I do.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Like this morning, I had my Simprove, which is still,
religiously, the first thing Ihave every day.
It has been a massive part ofmy journey.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
That's a shot of something, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I buy that that's not a massive part of my journey.
That's a shot of something,isn't it?
Yeah, and like I buy that it'snot.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
That's not a free round.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
I buy that the first round of it was given to me for
free by my friends in MelvinPharmacy to support me on my
journey when I was starting outback in June but I that's nice
but like I found such benefitfrom it that I've been buying it
myself since.
Like I've kept it on because itis a game changer for me.
But yeah, it's like a littleshot of a water-based probiotic

(52:51):
and it is expensive.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
For your gut health, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Yeah, it's like very high quality, Very very high
quality.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
The reviews are amazing on it.
Actually, it's expensive though, Paddy, isn't it?
Yeah, it is, but I meaneverything is worth it if you
were going to buy a coffee everyday.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I know how much like if you were to buy one coffee a
day for a month, like you'relooking, probably well over a
hundred and something quid.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Like you know, I spent a fortune on supplements a
couple of weeks ago actuallytwo weeks ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and Iwon't see the benefit for those
for another month, like.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I'm two weeks in.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I have to go another four weeks probably.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I'd say yeah but yeah , no, I definitely grazed her
today, so I had one of me fakeboiled eggs, because they're not
boiled, they're air fried.
But I had me air fried egg andthen I had a couple of more eggs
actually because I cooked three, so I was like I have to have
another two.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
And what I had something else.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Oh, I had a protein yogurt as well.
Really nice Like.
Is it like blueberry muffin orsomething like that?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Oh, where did you get that?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Dunn's.
Oh right, okay nice.
Yeah, they do a few differentflavours.
They do a banoffee one, there'sa lemon one, there's this
blueberry one.
It's a brand brand just can'tthink of it at the moment.
But yeah, a few differentflavours, lovely, some kind of.
And then what else do?
I have a couple of cups of tea.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
You eat your proper dinner, though, do you?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
em.
Yeah, like I'd have somethingbigger in the evening, like it
might be, traditional meat andveg and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
But I don't have that , I can't.
I had a Chinese, the othernight did you eat all of it?
No, I did not.
Knew it chance to be a funnything, knew it not?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
at all.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I'd be delighted to get a Chinese now I get two days
out of it, yeah yeah, oh, Ididn't think of that yeah no, I
didn't think of that you grazedon it, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
yeah, no.
So, like, I wanted a Chineseliterally for like the last week
and a half.
So those of you who were like,right, we're getting a Chinese
this evening, that's it.
We're going to get a Chineseand we're going to watch a film.
So that's what we did got theChinese and I went for something
different.
I always get the Cantonesestyle sweet and sour chicken,
but this time I got the dicedchicken like curry, and yeah

(54:59):
again, usual, usual.
I like had all the veg out of itand had all the chicken out of
it, had a few prawn crackers,like with the rice and the sauce
and that lovely and then I waslike oh okay, I think I'm, I
think I'm done, now I'm done,and I was comfortable with just
saying no, I'm done grand that'sit, mind your own.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I'm done none of this kind of constantly going back
to it or stuff so tell ourlisteners where you are on your
journey now with the milligramof Manjaro that you're taking
and how long you've been takingit.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
So I started my journey on the 15th of June, so
it's about 30-ish weeks.
I don't know something likethat give or take.
I am on 15 milligrams, Istarted on 15 milligrams.
I started on 15 milligramsbefore Christmas sometime I

(55:51):
think so, yeah, end of.
November maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I think it might have been, Because I remember
thinking about you on ChristmasDay, thinking were you going to
be able to eat?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
It's not patty under my tree.
I know, yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
What.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
But you did you actually overate, didn't you
like christmas?
Yeah, like christmas, like likeI definitely.
I was one of the first times Ifelt uncomfortable yeah, so I
didn't be.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I didn't by standard, normal standards, you didn't at
all.
Yeah by, but by GLP-1 standardsyou would have.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, because like I had the soup, I had the dinner.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I couldn't finish the dinner, but then I was like, oh
, but the potatoes are lovely,I'd have one more.
It's like I'd have one more andI'm like I can't.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I can't so tell you know anyone on 15 milligrams.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
In Ireland.
No, no same yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Now I'm like six months into my journey on
Manjaro and I started a fivemilligram six months ago but I'm
still only on 10 milligram.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I think I'm going into my third month of 10
milligram, and the only reasonfor that is it's still working
for me.
Yeah, and if for one minute Istart getting food and I was
back.
I start waking up hungry in themorning, like I used to Bang.
I'm up.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And I'll probably bypass yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
No, I'll have to do 12.5 for a month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So bypass 12.5.
I won't say that, no, I'll haveto do 12.5 for a month.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah so it's just interesting, I suppose
, to say where we are with itnow, you know, yeah because
that's like I'm trackingeverything in the.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
We still have to do a podcast about the tech we use.
We've been saying that for awhile, but the app I use that
help us on our journey yeah,yeah, yeah, the app I use is
Shotzi again, not a paidcollaboration.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I started using that the other day.
I love it.
I love Shotzi Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I've used it since day one and again, if you're on
there.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Can you tell our listeners what Shotzi is and how
it helps you?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
okay.
So Shotzi is an app that ittracks your doses.
That it tracks your doses soevery time you put in a dose it
will record that.
It will record where you, whatsite you used, it will record if
you had any side effects for it.
It will then keep a graph fromday one of you using it, showing
you the level that is in yourbody and how you have titrated

(58:20):
up.
So for folks that are onYouTube or if you're listening
and you want to see, I'm goingto put this up here.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
It's like this is what my no, your green screen is
taken over.
No, you're okay there now, yeah, yeah, so you can see the graph
.
They're kind of going up so Idon't have that graph.
Is that, is that your seven dayefficacy of the drug?
Is that your graph?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
that is my all-time doses, that is okay so what is
showing me is that, like, thedose will usually peak around 24
hours after injected, and sothat's when a dose will be at
its highest in my system andthen it'll continue to show it
dropping until you get to thehalf-life, which is about four
days out, and continue goingdown.

(59:02):
So basically just shows thatconstant uh, you inject, it's
building up in your body andthen usually after a day or two
it starts dropping and then justshowing it going back down
until you inject the next week.
Um, so it's showing me my totalweight that I've lost.
It's showing me my um, mycurrent bmi, um, yeah,

(59:22):
percentage of weight lost, allthis kind of stuff.
So I really like it.
It's just something that Ifound was useful and it shows me
actually as well.
One of the other things is sonormally we will track our
weight, say a week or month orwhatever thing it is.
This shows you the weight youlost since your last dose, which
sometimes can be different forvarious reasons, for different

(59:43):
people and you know stuff likethat's an interesting um thing
to track, yeah yeah, so it showsyou weight loss by dose as well
.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Um but yeah, so no, I just love it and if you, if I
go, I'm in calendar now, paddyright, and I'm going into
calendar.
Today's date.
It says shot and then on theright hand side, under the x, it
says estimated level 7.47milligrams in my body now
decreasing that's amazing andthis is a free app.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah, we need to get on to these people.
Yeah, so they um sponsor apodcast.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yeah, my.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
My dose at the moment is 11.03 milligrams.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's in my body right, so I took mine on Sunday
and today mine is going down to7.47 yeah and I've got Thursday,
friday, saturday to go, andit's all day Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So yeah, so tomorrow will probably be your half day
yeah, yeah, but yeah, so it'sinteresting so that's, but yeah,
love that, probably your halfday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, butyeah, so it's interesting.
So that's, but yeah, love thatshot, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's what we have totalk about, is that it Maybe
like so some of the episodesthat we have coming up in the

(01:00:58):
future?
Folks, we're going to do one onmaintenance, talking about our
thoughts about maintenance,which is going to be an
interesting one, because we'vebeen talking about that lately,
haven't we?
Yeah, we have been talkingourselves over.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
How it's going to look for us.
Yeah, and we're hoping to havesomebody on as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, it'd be cool to get somebody that is, you know,
maintaining at the momentwhether that is with medication
or without medication or maybeboth, and to compare and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
What I would say is I'd like to get somebody that is
maintaining with medicationbecause I have no intention of
coming off it myself personally.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Well, that's what I'd say, but, like 99.9% of the
people I see online that havecome off it to maintain without
it do end up going back, youknow, and it's a pity.
Yeah, and that in itself, initself, like, is an interesting
insight, but we'll see.
So we're going to do an episodeabout maintenance, but maybe
next week or the week after wemight also delve in and I'm
going to say this and not talkhuge more about it, but about me

(01:01:57):
stopping and coming off Manjarolet's yeah, bum, bum bum which
it's going to be so interestingit's going to be such an
interesting journey, say nothingall I'll say is should we do
that?
Next week Paddy yeah, yeah, wecan, because my yeah my no, no,

(01:02:18):
don't no.
I'll tease you with this.
My final dose of Monjaro isnext week, okay well, let,
monjaro is next week, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
well, let's do that then next week.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Okay, grand Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
So I'm yeah, I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Tune in everybody.
I'm nervous.
I'm nervous to find out more.
I'm nervous to see what's goingto happen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
I think we should.
By the way, I think we shouldadd some kind of little
character skit at the end ofthis, or something like How's it
going?
It's Patricia here, I'm on theskinny jab.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
That hurts my soul when you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I put a pair of Spanx on on Saturday and I haven't
been able to get them off since.
Has anyone got a can opener?
I think Patricia could becomeDon't Because I used to do skits
of Patricia that was trying tolose weight, but I think she
could become.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I've seen them.
I've seen them.
Are they on your TikTok?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
No, they're on my Facebook page.
Oh my God, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
But I can't knock Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I'm doing well at Facebook at the moment, I'm
loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah for the first time in my life.
Actually, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Oh Jesus, now how are you doing?
It's Patricia here, and I'mjust here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I'm going to have to mute you now, Paddy, Give it
over Anyway right, you now,paddy, give it over anyway right
so we've just hang on a minutenow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
So we've decided that's what we're going to speak
about tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Next week is you coming?
Yes, okay, so I'm just going tohave to write that down
somewhere, because I forget thatfour times.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
You are still going to be asking me a minute before
we hop in next week.
Paddy, what are we talkingabout?
What are we talking about thisweek?

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
what are we talking about this week?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
and I'll say I swear I've thought about it for at
least five hours but then you'dhave thought about the wrong
topic yeah okay, I am off to domy 5k if anyone isn't aware, for
the month this late, I have toget it done yeah, you should
have done that this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Why you at?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I didn't work, but I did at like 7 o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
I was in the gym, then I had to do the school run,
then I went to aqua aerobics,then I had to come home and then
I had to go and do a 4K.
Come on, paddy, start your lifeout.
Fuck that job.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, and then, like you know, I had stuff to like
reply to and all that kind ofstuff I know.
Emails.
I'm surprised the amount ofemails this week.
Don't forget folks.
If ever you want to email thepodcast, you can do as well.
It is just hello at the dosedot ie, I didn't know that you

(01:04:58):
did.
You have to log in for.
Belinda, I like, I is therelike a carer's allowance for
like, for like podcast co-hosts,like mother of god, belinda.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
I'm turning into a full time job, aren't I?
Yeah, you are, you are.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
I love that for you mother of god anyway, so you can
email us if ever there'ssomething you want us to talk
about on the podcast, if youhave any questions that you'd
like us to answer on the podcast, no matter where you are in the
world.
Hello at thedoseie.
I am going to try and get aWhatsApp number set up as well
so that you might be able toWhatsApp us questions.
We won't be replying on theWhatsApp, but it'll be, or
feedback or anything like thatas well.

(01:05:41):
So, mike, I'll get that set up.
I look after that, belinda.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I'll do that, paddy, don't worry, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Paddy, what was I meant to do?
But anyway, belinda, thank you.
As always, it's been a pleasure, yeah it's always a pleasure,
never a chore never a chore.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Sorry, my gym is just texting me telling me how great
I am.
Why aren't?

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
you here.
Why aren't you here, but,belinda, until we talk next week
.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Have a wonderful weekend, and yeah, you too,
paddy, we'll chat to you, thenI'll talk to you.
Yeah, take care everybody.
Take care everyone, bye.