December 22, 2024 • 50 mins
It's hard to believe it but it's time for a Christmas special! 🎄Paddy & Belinda are back chatting about where their heads are at in relation to Christmas & dealing with a weight loss journey. For Belinda her third whilst on a medically supported journey - and Paddy his first.
Paddy also shares his experience of working with an Online Personal Trainer earlier this year and how bad an experience it was along with a recent milestone he has hit - and Belinda has some exciting news of her own!
As you'd expect theres lots of banter and laughs along the way too!
Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 160lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.
None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.
We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach.
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(00:13):
None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
medical care team. Belinda, you, you're totally
froze there while you're dancing.
So we got like Belinda, just like that.
(00:40):
Hello folks. You're welcome along to another
edition of The Dose with myself,Paddy and.
Belinda. Yes, quicker off the mark this
time than. I know, forgot my name last
week. We we are trying recording via a
new way. So we've no idea how that's
(01:01):
going to turn out, but hopefullyit's going to be OK be.
Grand Yeah, have these famous last words big around?
Yeah, you're definitely going quite blurry on me, though.
Visually I can hear you fine, blinded, but you, yeah, you're
going really blur. I think it's just because you're
on the old Wi-Fi. I do think it's.
That oh, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't have Elon Musk's Internet unfortunately from the.
(01:21):
Where's your Where's your Internet box?
Is it far from your computer? Downstairs, Downstairs.
Yeah, OK. You are much clearer though.
Way, way. You're like high definition,
Yeah. Good.
It's the way the way I live, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, Belinda, it's like Christmasweek.
(01:41):
I. Know like it's a big week, big
week in our house. Big week, big week.
Busy. Busy, busy.
Busy, busy, busy so you have This is not your first Christmas
though on like a medicated weight loss journey it is for
me. It's not.
Yeah, that's right. We're opposite sides, aren't we?
(02:03):
Really? Because this is my third.
Yeah. This is your first, Yeah.
Yeah, and now we spoke, we did speak about some of this on the
Instagram Live the other night and we decided that we're
actually just going to do a dedicated recording, umm, a
short recording just talking about this as well.
Umm, so Belinda as a as a expert, as a vintage patient.
(02:32):
Geriatric. OK, yeah, so I tell you, let's
get a sense, Paddy, of how you feel going into your first
Christmas on a medicated weight loss journey.
Because I think most of the people that I know that I speak
to are just starting out their journey, umm, in the past 6789
(02:54):
months. And I suppose they're wanting to
know how you're preparing or howyou're going to kind of manage
it all. Yeah, it like it's an
interesting one because I didn'tgive too much thought to it
until about maybe two weeks ago.And I was sitting on the couch
by myself at home and there was like a tub of sweets beside me.
(03:17):
And I found myself just going for them because they were
there. I definitely was not hungry at
all. And I thought, oh, I, I don't
know how many had eaten. Like I, I really describe not
maybe maybe 7 or 8, something like that.
And the first one is like, why me eating these?
They're not even nice. They're not like they're not
nice. They're they're really sweet,
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but they're not nice. So they're not.
You weren't, would you? Would you say that you weren't
getting the same kind of hit offof them as you would have
previously to? You see, it's hard to say
because I wasn't hungry. I didn't, I definitely didn't
feel I was getting any kind of benefit or like, yeah, pleasure
(04:02):
from them. Like, yeah, but then it got me
thinking, did I ever before get pleasure from them or was it
just a. Habit.
And were and were you just sitting?
Yeah. Were you just sitting on your
couch eating them? Because literally, that's what
we used to do. Exactly.
Habit. It's habit.
And then I started overthinking.Wait a minute, like I I started
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eating. Oh my God, is there something
wrong? Because this happened a few
nights that week, right? And it kind of got me thinking,
Oh my God, the medication is notworking.
There's something wrong. Why me these sweets have not
hungry previously like I have had I felt like very false after
me a meal or something and that I do me like hours and hours and
hours. I'm not feeling hungry.
So why am I eating these? I don't feel physically hungry.
(04:44):
And then I thought, wait a minute, a couple of things.
This is the first time that I'vebeen in this situation, this
environment since I started thisjourney.
On this medication. On this medication.
So this is a new thing for me. Yeah, to like.
And what I'll, what I'll say to you around that as well is
(05:04):
Paddy, see, when you started your journey and you were just
on your treadmill running along day-to-day, you were getting
used to it. Every single day.
You were learning new things because on this journey, you
have to relearn so many things, habits, things like that.
And nothing really big would have come up until now.
(05:27):
So now you're going into a new situation, a new environment,
and you're going to have to relearn more things, yeah.
Absolutely, Absolutely. I.
Yeah. No, it is, it is, it is
definitely a new thing. And I think there there's a lot
of the last kind of six months have been, yeah, there has been
new things. But that was predominantly in
the first maybe couple of monthswhere it's like, oh, this is new
or that is new. And then I guess I have felt
(05:49):
very ash peace and understandingthe journey that I was on.
So then when I was in this new thing of like all these sweets
for me and kind of going for them, I was like, OK, this is
interesting because this is definitely a learned behaviour,
behaviour from life as opposed to any kind of, you know,
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physical thing driving me to want to have these.
And so I sat there and I was like, I don't want these, I'm
not going to have them. But then equally I did also, I
guess flip it on the other side off, OK, but let's rationalize
this a little bit more. People who aren't on this
journey at Christmas time definitely have more sweets than
they might have during the year.And I think that's the other
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thing as well is not to completely overanalyze things
that it's Christmas, you're going to have some things that
maybe you wouldn't have because everybody does it.
Do you know what I mean? It's just more so I guess for me
being aware of you're, you're like maybe you haven't just had
a few sweets now. You're maybe had more than a few
sweets now. Do you know what I mean?
(06:52):
Yeah. But also I think what we're
going to have to do as well as acollective is to learn to listen
to our bodies and trust our bodies.
Trust the medication and trust the process a little bit more.
Because understandably, you are not going to be able to eat as
much as you did previous to Modaro or Ozempic.
(07:14):
So you really have to dig deep and listen to your body, umm,
this time around Christmas, because it's nothing that you've
been through yet. So.
The thing that's interesting with this is thinking about this
this week. Actually, it only came into my
mind this week and I think abouthow when we think about when we
get full, OK, when we're on the medication, typically we will
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have had food that is, umm, quite filling food because it
has a good bit of fibre in it, it has a good bit of protein in
it. It's stuff like that which is
going to make us feel physicallyfuller.
For you to get that same sense of fullness from sweets, it's
still going to take quite a goodbit of junk for you to feel full
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because they're so morable, because there's so many, uh,
like calories and sugar and all this thing in, in even 1 little
sweet, you'll still have gone through quite a few of them
before you get that full. You will get that full feeling
at some point, but you'll have you'll.
Also feel sicker quicker. Yes, yes, definitely.
(08:21):
Yeah, so you could eat an awful lot of, uh, protein and fibre
and your vegetables and whateverand eat a decent yeah size meal
and you wouldn't feel sick from it.
Yeah, you definitely will feel sick and be the really kind of
thing to remember as well is that if you do start feeling
like that, then you could possibly bring on side effects
(08:44):
that you haven't had in the pastsix months.
So you need to be very, very aware of that.
And I will say as well that withthese medications, the what is
it? The perfect storm is fat and
sugar together. I say if you had umm, Black
Forest gateau or cheesecake absolutely saturated with fat
(09:05):
and sugar and that will just your, your stomach will not like
that. Yeah, you will get side effects
from that. And it's not side effects from
the drug, it's side effects fromwhat you're ingesting.
It's. Whilst on the medication.
And similarly, for some people, it can be that they may get side
effects with things like the greasy food and alcohol and a
(09:25):
combination of all of now I, I've not had side effects from.
I don't think there's been any further.
I said there was one night, there was one night where I was
sick when I was in Belfast recently.
But I do genuinely think that was because I had a random
cocktail that had like raw egg whites whipped on it and stuff
(09:47):
like that. And I think it was I, I
genuinely think it was that as opposed to anything else,
because I've eaten pretty much anything I've wanted.
I've drank pretty much anything I've wanted.
What's been on this journey? Obviously not to excess.
I know extent but also insane that as well because you've not
been on a diet. Exactly, exactly.
And still, for the most part, I am extremely conscious of want
(10:09):
to get my protein, want to get my fiber, want to get my
protein. Like even yesterday I was out
for myself. My husband went out for our kind
of little Christmas Day out thatwe normally do.
And we went into Japanese restaurant.
And if you're on my eh, Instagram, you may have already
seen this, but I put up a picture of what my of what my
lunch was and it was chicken teppanyaki, which is so good, so
(10:31):
good. I look lush.
Yeah, there was like so much chicken in it and and this is
the thing, I was like, I want something I really like, but I
want to be somewhat mindful still of what my body needs.
So I was like, how am I going tobounce it?
So I had eh chicken gooses just because I love them.
I didn't give I I was not thinking protein or fiber When I
had that. I was like, I just love chicken
(10:52):
and they're not massive. I was like, I'm going to have me
chicken gooses and then the chipand the chip and the chicken had
the chip and is right. The eh chicken teppanyaki, Umm
was gorgeous because it had a load of the start with
vegetables and a load of chickenand then it had the teriyaki
sauce and stuff. But for me, it was like, you
know what? This is the perfect example of a
(11:13):
lunch that really hit the spot because it's really tasty.
It it is a treat for me, but it still supported my protein and
fiber kind of goals as well. So it was.
It was a nice one. Because you always have to think
about that in the background. But I think it's not that you
have to, you just get used. To it.
Yeah, you do, You do. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is good. And I think as well, a big thing
for people going into Christmas that are new to the journey are,
(11:37):
are on the journey and people don't know that they're on the
journey is umm, having to explain why you're not eating
like you would have done previously.
Because I know that if I was going up to my mum's house and
everybody was there and we were all sitting down for dinner and
I just, I will, I'll just have aflat plate of food with little
bits of everything because I want to try everything.
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But previous to that I would have had a mountain of food.
And and do you tell people? Ask for huh do.
You tell people then or how do you handle that when they're
like, oh, why aren't you eating more or why you haven't?
Me personally, yeah. What do you do?
Every single, every single person I know knows that I'm on
it. I shout about it all the time.
Yeah, all the time, yeah. But there's an awful lot of
people and I speak to them everyday.
(12:19):
And there's some in my subscribers group as well that
nobody knows that. They're yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, because. So I think the the advice for
them would be to just take a deep breath and say something
like, oh, you know what? I'm just lately I've just
started listening to my body andI'm really.
And it's really helping. Yeah.
Because that's. Literally, if you don't want
people to know, just say that. Because I have some houses that
(12:40):
I go to, our place that I go or whatever.
And it's not that I don't talk about the medication.
Of course I do. Sure.
Like I have it on social media that, but more so it's not, you
know, something like I don't getthis big conversation, but
something. So what I've started doing is
when I'm going somewhere for dinner, I'm like, do you know
what? Just put out a small portion for
me. If I'm hungry, I'll come back
for a second, but just give me asmall portion of it off.
(13:02):
Well, yeah. And if they're like, if they
were like, oh, you have more, you have more.
I'm like, no, no, honestly, if you put it out, it's just going
to go to waste. So just give me the small
portion and if I want to pick a little bit more, I'll go over
and get something. And I much prefer to do that.
Much prefer. And if they don't listen to me
and if they give me a big portion.
Which they don't generally. I will nearly always
intentionally leave food so thatthey get the message then
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because again, as you say, not everybody might want to get into
that or you know, might be in a place that they can get into it.
So that's still something I'll do.
Definitely is like, Oh no, just going to be a small portion.
And you know what? I'll go back for more if I want.
I'll go back to. It yeah, yeah, yeah.
But don't feel bad about. It and it's it's tough.
It is tough for people that are not, that are not telling people
about it, you know? And like.
And I think as well, like the the fear that some people have
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going into the Christmas season as well is just just with all
the food being around, you know,I think that the best thing that
you can possibly do is just focus on other things.
Fill your day and fill your mindand your hands and everything
with other things. Just kind of think about the
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joy, think about what you're going to do with the kids, think
about wrapping the presents, youknow what I mean?
And, and I think that will happen automatically for you
anyway once you just kind of tryand relax into it.
Because we are spending our daysnow not thinking about food.
We're not, we're not spending our days anymore thinking about
the next meal and what we're going to have and how much of it
can we have, you know, so, but Ido think it's heightened.
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I definitely think it's heightened now.
And. The other thing that I know
we've both said before as well is if you do have a day or two
whatever, whereby maybe your food intake or whatever isn't
what you ideally would have liked it to be or isn't what you
would have planned, you know, maybe intended for it to be or
whatever. And it just ends up being
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different. Maybe the plans go out the wind
or something happens and you endup having to eat out or whatever
and you're not able to do what you had intended to do.
Don't beat yourself up about it.One or two days or even one week
or two weeks. In the grand scheme of the, for
most of us, it's a pretty long journey.
It's not going to make or break it.
So yeah, be be be kind to yourselves.
(15:13):
Be kind to yourself, Yeah, be a bit more gentle with yourself in
this period of time. And also I think that you know
at the end of the day, if you do, like we said this the other
night, Paddy, if you do go to the scales afterwards and you
are up a pound or two, what was it you said?
It, it, it, it is highly unlikely that the weight that
you see up is going to be body fat that you have now gained
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over the the course of a few days.
So say for example, if we take me right and I don't know, I'm
going to guess here that my maintenance calories for me just
to maintain my weight could be something like say 3000
calories. That's it's probably more
actually, but just for the purpose of this.
So for me to gain a pound or twoover, like for me to gain a
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pound or two. Over maintenance, yeah.
I would need to eat my maintenance and then an extra
say 7000 calories for me to potentially regain 2 lbs.
So like that amount of food. I know it's it's, yeah, but it
is. On this medication, it's an
impossibility. It will be extremely different,
(16:20):
yeah. Like it's way more likely going
to be food sitting in your tummyfrom the slowed digestive
emptying. It's going to be maybe
additional hydration levels if you've had some more liquid in
you. It could be stress from the
week. It could be poor sleep.
And it could be like time of themonth, not for me, but for many
people it could be, you know. So like there is lots and a
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combination of all those. So I would say if anything.
Apart from the food. Yeah, exactly.
It's more likely those and a combination of those, yeah.
Then actually the food you've eaten, you know so and.
Then I think as well, when you, if, if you do stand up in the
scales and I, I recommend that you don't, umm, if you do see
that couple of pounds or whatever, just get right back to
(17:01):
your normal, your normal passionand hydrate yourself.
Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate and. You know you.
Will see, you will see it shift quite quickly, quicker than you
would have done all through the past 68910 months.
And that's actually a thing. Umm, about the scales, I would
love if people were like, do youknow what the one thing I am
(17:22):
going to take a breather from over Christmas is the scales and
don't weigh yourself at the end of Christmas.
If you're somebody that weighs weekly, don't weigh yourself,
you know, at the end of Christmas week.
Wait until you know, maybe the, the, the following weekend, the
first weekend of the new year because you're giving yourself
your body that chance to kind ofnormalize again, to kind of
recalibrate. Umm, So that's what I would
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advise if if you're into that kind of same weighing kind of
weekly, just definitely take a week off the weighing if
anything, you know, Yeah. And.
And yeah, what, what's your planwith the weighing?
Are you going to do that? Because we know that you've hit
this massive, massive milestone in the past two weeks.
And my God, congratulations. Thank you.
Help people. So yeah, so umm, the 15th of
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December was my six month anniversary since I started on
umm, and in kind of the the weekbeforehand I kind of said, oh,
I'm about a pound and a half offhitting six stone weight loss.
And I was thinking, you know what, if I could hit that by New
Year, that'd be amazing. So I was hoping, you know, I'm
(18:31):
giving myself it was I think just over two weeks or something
like that to try and lose that pound and a half and I would
have been delighted with that. But anyway, on the 15th, umm, I
stood on the scales and to the ounce Belinda to the Oh, I've
seen. It.
Yeah, to the ounce. It was exactly 6 stones achieved
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on my 6 month anniversary from when I started on gyro and.
That was faith. It just blew.
Meant to happen. Like I couldn't believe that it
was to the ounce. It just blew my life it.
Was mental, wasn't it? It was crazy, absolutely crazy.
So, so yeah. So that's that's I I definitely
did not think at the start of this year.
And actually the whole other thing started this year that
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I've never spoke about. Umm, I don't know if this
podcast get into, but umm, at the start of this year that I
haven't even spoke to you about a different attempt that I
tried. OK, so I haven't spoke for this
in podcast before. Actually, it could be good
timing. Umm, this time of year a lot of
people are obviously thinking about what am I going to do in
the new year, what is my plan? You know, we know Monjaro is
(19:37):
going to be available in the Republic of Ireland soon.
Actually, it is now available via a new dispenser which umm.
You're going to talk about. Yeah, umm, so it is available.
I'll just tell the address. It's my hyphen BMI dot, IE.
They are now delivering Monjaro to the Republic of Ireland, but
we'll talk more about that in a future episode hopefully, or on
(19:58):
a read or something. We will say yeah.
We will, umm, so anyway, umm, yeah, people are, you know,
assessing different things. One of the areas where people
spend a lot of time kind of reviewing things about the
social media. So they're going to be looking
at online personal trainers, online plans, online programs,
all this kind of stuff. And loads of those can be
absolutely phenomenal folks. They really can.
OK, There are some amazing personal trainers out there both
(20:21):
in person and online that can bephenomenal.
But a word of warning I will give you, Just because somebody
has a large follower account as a personal trainer does not
necessarily mean that they're going to be a good personal
trainer for you or that they're any more credible than say a
local personal trainer or a personal trainer who may have a
smaller following. Now, I've been around personal
(20:44):
trainers extensively for the last 14 odd years.
Umm, both haven't worked. You are a.
Personal trainer. I'm a qualified personal trainer
myself, yeah. So both in that capacity haven't
trained with some umm, followingthem multitude different ways.
So it's an area that I would know a good bit about.
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And at the start of this year, Iwas looking at again, you know,
like many of us, I need to do something and, and I need to do
some, yeah, I need to do something to try and lose weight
again. And because nothing has worked
before. And there was a personal trainer
(21:26):
that I followed that has a massive following and put up a
lot of very credible and videos about, you know, weight loss and
obesity and stuff like this. And, and I really respected
them. The content that they put out.
And I do think their content they put out online is, is
really, really good. So I got in touch with them
(21:48):
because they were offering a plan.
And I think it was, I'm going tosay it was a £250 a month,
something like that. I think it was something like
that, umm, 200, two 150. I have double check.
Anyway, it was. We we think that's a lot, don't
we? It is a lot for.
And that's for online that's notin person.
Yeah, now if, if, if, if you're getting, it's depending, this is
(22:11):
where it comes into what supportyou're getting, all this kind of
stuff. OK, so I was thinking, OK, you
know, I, I was told it was goingto be a weekly check insurance.
It's going to be the way, it's going to be the progress
pictures, it's going to be checking the food, it's going to
be the personalized plan, all this kind of stuff.
And this person had qualifications specifically in
like obesity and weight. Man, I was like, this feels like
a really good fit. So I got really hyped up because
(22:33):
I'd done so much research and itwas a big financial investment.
Had to do a minimum of three months as well.
So I was tying myself in for nearly a grand worth of stuff,
right? Yeah.
And I'd say 2-3 weeks in, I was like.
You did join. I did join and I thought this is
(22:56):
shocking, this is shocking. When was this?
January. Of this year they were using
like a generic platform that is used by loads person trainers
which can work effectively. Eh, you know, depending how it's
used. The check insurance were
mediocre. The workout was one that to be
honest, ChatGPT could have done ChatGPT is pretty decent and it
(23:21):
was it was so poor. There was no in, I did not feel
any bit of individualized approach or programming or
discussion or check in or anything.
For me, I felt it was really, really, really poor and I felt
so disheartened. There was no, I didn't feel that
there was any leaning in from any of the qualifications this
(23:43):
person had that were being applied to me to help me, to
coach me. There was no coaching actually
at all. It was pretty much like a, Oh
yeah, keep doing what you're doing type thing or stuff like
that. And I and.
That was your. That was your check in.
That was my check in. I was devastated because I knew
I was tied in for a three month thing as well, so I could not
(24:05):
wait for that to be over becauseI felt so disheartened and.
Did you continue on kind of justwith the flow?
Yeah, I kind of I kind of went with the flow and I remember the
last check in or the second lastor whatever was in the last
month of it. I got LAX.
I think, OK, I'm going to see how much do the chase me or that
(24:25):
and there was very little and and I had even my subscription
had even ended before they even realized and before they even
reached out to me. So they hadn't even copped that
my programming with them had finished it.
It was it was so bad. Anyway, the moral of this story
is folks, do not sign up for anyonline personal trainer, of
course, until you've had the chance to have a consultation
(24:46):
with them beforehand and get confirmation of exactly what
level of support is it you are going to get from them.
How individual and personalized is that?
And try not to get tied into something that is Mon multiple
months on end. OK, And I know some per person
friends won't like me for sayingthat, but you have to protect
your investment just as much as they have to and they need to
(25:07):
prove themselves. So if it's a case that, you
know, maybe you can come to an agreement of no, do you know
what? The first month or two, I'm only
doing it month, one month, 2 month by month.
But then after that, if the, if the service is supportive of me,
then yeah, we can, we can look at something that is like, you
know, a three month plan or something.
But yeah, just be wary. As well to be wary, obviously.
But Paddy, you are, you are so invested in figuring out what is
(25:34):
best for you and you do your homework on everything.
Anything that you put your moneyor your mail to, you just invest
in it. And you need to know what you're
going to get out of it. And you obviously did that,
Yeah. And even haven't done that,
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And I remember talking to my friends at the time and they
were just devastated for me because, again, the cost of it,
you know? Yeah.
That's too much. That's more than what my
(25:55):
medication has costed. Do you know?
Yeah. Yeah, it's way too much.
Now I have invested in a gym. I start tomorrow morning at
6:40. Five I love this I.
Want to? Play something for this So gym.
Oh no, not that one what I've been doing.
Here we go. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. But I am shitting it.
But anyway, listen, it's a localgym, umm, and it is nearly on my
doorstep and I know the guys in there and I, it's a small group
trainings, small group strength training.
And it's eight people in a room and I've been in, I've been had
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my introduction. They've gone through the whole
kind of on boarding thing with me and I'm going into some
machine in the morning where it's going to tell me loads of
stuff about my body. I don't know what it is but
turning up early to do it. An in body by a chance?
No, that's what it's called. Maybe, maybe hang on now, um.
Tanata machine either or something like that.
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Umm, but that's really, I'm excited to see you come because
as people will know, I firmly believe that the regardless if
you're on a weight loss journey or not, that the best form of
movement you can be doing for your longevity and your overall
health is strength based training.
And that can look like, like different things for different
people. Umm, but in terms of just the
benefits, particularly when you're on a weight loss journey,
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that kind of strength based training, it's just so
phenomenal. And I know we spoke with this
and I know you really enjoy the other bits and pieces you've
been doing too, and they're phenomenal.
But I'll continue. I'll.
Continue to losing, yeah, but umm, so I'm really excited to
see how you get on because I think you're going to be
phenomenal at it. Yeah, you're going to be
brilliant, and I think you're going to surprise yourself.
In body what? Is that Yeah, yeah, in body.
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I was talking to one of the trainers, Heather.
And so we have an in body machine in the gym which measure
your weight, body fat percentageand muscle mass.
And you can do it on your first day if you.
Want. And I just said to her, oh, I
said, that sounds dangerous. I'm in.
No do because so you know the way I got a DEXA scan done a few
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months ago. Yes.
So it's it's kind it's kind of similar to DEXA scan.
It's not say in in a medical setting, but it's a similar
thing. So what I'd be looking for there
is I'd be looking for the trendswhen you get your next one done.
OK, so I don't obsess too much with the numbers, but do look at
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the trends to see OK, well how is my muscle?
Has it stayed the same, gone up or down?
How are the other bits? So that's the way I'd definitely
be looking at that because there's one of the gyms in town
has 1 and I was thinking of getting an in body done as an
interim. Wasn't waiting for my next DEXA
scan as well actually. OK, yeah.
And so should I just do this tomorrow then and then do my six
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weeks because I've paid up for six weeks and then and it was
only 100 or £250 for the six weeks?
That's brilliant. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Umm, and then I'll just wait,
shall I, till the six weeks are up and do it again.
Yes, I would. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not the type thing you needto do to.
Find my body measurements though, will it?
Umm, they might. So they might take your
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measurements to key them in for you.
I'm not sure. Like usually.
So, So what it is, it's it's a platform that you usually stand
on. You take your shoes and socks
off and it'll have sensors, metal sensors beneath your feet,
and then there'll be handles that you hold and it sends a
tiny, umm, electronic, umm, electrical, sorry signal through
your body. And basically what it does is
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depending on how long it takes that signal to go from point A
to B to C to D, and depending onhow many points there, it will
determine basically, you know, how hydrated are you, how much
muscle have you and how much kind of all that, all the other
bits that. Yeah, how much that.
So that's the way it kind of works is kind of like from an
electrical little signal that itsends through your body.
Yeah. Hey, that's going to be
interesting. Yeah.
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Excellent. Yeah, Yeah, that's good.
Yeah. Yeah, and I.
Think, but yeah, but but again, like what you're saying about
when the new year comes and everybody has the same total, I
need to do something, I need to do this, I need to do that.
Just take your time. Yeah, yeah, do do take your time
and like, like I'm working with a strength coach, uh, since
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September and like, I'll get frustrated still if there's a
movement I can't get right or can't don't get the first time.
I, I won't give up though. I won't give up.
I'll because I love getting the coaching technique and tips from
him. Like he's brilliant.
He's he's phenomenal. And I see this as such a
brilliant investment in just, yeah, overall health and
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longevity. But even though, umm, sorry, I
just have a fog of my thought, it never goes back.
Umm, but even the night we're doing umm, this move and I just,
my range of motion just was not there.
Umm, so he was helping me with that.
And fairly we, we were kind of able to progress it.
But umm, it's still, you know, even a few months in, it's still
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important to remember that when you do something new, even
though you might have been doingsomething similar for a while,
just be kind to yourself again because you know, something's
going to be new and something's going to be difficult.
And everybody's body, just like with the medication, everybody's
body is different. Your range of motion, your
ability, the weight you can lift, all that kind of stuff.
Previous. Injuries.
Totally that. Kind of stuff, yeah.
And and also, I think even the length of your femur.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. To do with the way you squash as
well doesn't. It like.
How your movement? Will talk like your torso versus
your lower body, even your arm length.
All this kind of stuff can can be.
And this was one of the things Iwas trying to do because like
I'm, I say 6 foot one or whatever, and the movement was
for me to have a dumbbell overhead and a windmill I've got
and then get my hand down to theground.
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I'm like, my legs are too long for this.
My legs are too long. Umm.
But it was good. I got there in the end.
Not pretty, but we got there. Yeah.
So yeah, yeah. It's.
Not about the gracefulness. No, no, definitely not graceful
speaking enough in grace I will.I will definitely, definitely
TuneIn and let everybody know. Actually, I might bring in my
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phone with me in the morning andsee if I can do a little bit of
umm. Why don't you do?
Instagramming. A like a dedic, a weekly update,
a series for your Instagram, like on your on your highlights.
Talking about that tomorrow. Oh, I think that'd be brilliant.
You'd love that, wouldn't you? I would Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Umm, yeah.
I went. I went to ice skating yesterday.
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Oh yeah, you looked really good on the on the ice, actually.
Congratulations. Thank you.
Thank you. Very graceful, yeah, yeah, very.
Not even taking the piss like. Like, surprisingly, I didn't
fall. I don't know how I didn't fall,
but I didn't fall. I was amazed with myself.
You've done it before though I think maybe?
Oh, like twice. Three times, maybe like years
ago. I wouldn't do it now, be too
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afraid of my back. I'd I'd be petrified.
Yeah. But the thing that that struck
me was my legs, like how much istense in my muscles and my core
And like I was like, wow, that felt like a good workout because
I was being so mindful of not falling over.
When you're in those situations,what happens is all the smaller
little muscles in your body are all kind of shaken trying to
figure out, OK, what are we meant to do here to support this
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is new, blah, blah, blah. And so it's actually really good
workout as well. Nice.
And what you would have felt it afterwards then I'm sure I.
Can still feel it today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Nice one.
Yeah. Give it another go.
Yeah, we'll see. I don't know.
It's like €20 for 45 minutes, which I know that could be, I
don't know. But like I, I did half an hour
and I was like, yeah, OK, I'm done now.
It's a bit cold. That's.
Enough of that. That's enough of that, Paddy.
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Yeah, we had some questions comein the other day as well, didn't
we? Yes.
It was about, umm, medication inon the Christmas period, right?
And should I stop taking my medication while Christmas is
going on? And what did we think We
thought, no, no, that's not a good idea.
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And I think for say the likes ofme, even, umm, haven't been on
this for over 2 years now. And for me to think about not
taking my medication now so I could eat as much as I want
would actually be so counter to everything that I've learned and
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everything that I have unlearned.
And it just, I, I, I wouldn't doit purely because I don't want
to go back to the way I was before this medication.
Umm, that's my thought on it as well.
And I think you're probably the same.
Are you a? 100% Like I have seen so many
people online saying I'm going to skip a dose because I want to
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enjoy Christmas. And to me that translates
rightly or wrongly, that translates to I still see this
as a diet and I want to stop it so I can potentially overeat
again during Christmas, which would indicate there's still
work there to and not. And that's not to put shame on
somebody or anything. It just I hope would highlight
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to somebody that do you know what?
Maybe there's a bit of work still to do, umm, on my
relationship with food? Food.
Yeah. And that's OK.
That's OK too. Absolutely 100.
Percent just recognize it. Recognize that the reason that
you want to stop the medication is the reason you started the
medication in the 1st place. You started the medication to
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get away from that anxiety, thatculture, Yeah, that culture of
dieting and non dieting, you know, it's not great.
But the only thing is as well, Iwould say to somebody that has
just got their medication and that are thinking about maybe
starting it, you know, this weekor whatever, that probably is
not a good idea. Yeah.
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Only because, you know, you're not guaranteed.
It's not guaranteed that you'll have side effects, but certainly
eating the foods that are aroundat the moment will not help side
effects. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely. And I mean, look at ultimately
you've to do what you feel you know works too.
And again, maybe some people aredeciding that they're going to
skip to us because maybe they doget cytofokes, side side effects
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when they take a dose, side effects they get, they get side
effects. Well, skipping the dose Paddy
doesn't necessarily mean that the medication has gone out of
your. System 100% Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
totally, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I guess it's just more so I think both of us are lying on
that, that that idea of if the reason you want to skip a dose
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is because you can enjoy food more over Christmas week.
It, it doesn't sit right with meas the right reason for why
somebody would skip a dose. And it's also not the way that
the medication is meant to be used.
You are meant to take it every week.
It now, you know the medicationsnearly all cover if you miss a
dose, you know what you can do then.
But I think people are kind of almost using that on its head as
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a way to skirt around intentionally skipping your
dose. And well, just say to like
everybody that's listening in now as well, that even though
you're skipping your dose again,it doesn't mean the medication
has left your body. Yeah.
So be prepared that if you are planning on eating the way you
did previous to Manjaro Aero Zambic, that you could possibly
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suffer side effects and you could possibly ruin whole
Christmas, you know. And I couldn't, I couldn't even
imagine because this is what it's like for me.
I couldn't imagine not taking mymedication and going over to my
mum's house and sitting down at the table and eating everything
I wanted to eat. Because with that comes the
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torture that was in my head about the calories, the amount
of food I'm eating. What?
The food noise. Like after it food noise, yeah.
Because. Because we know it.
Would want that. Like it can be common for some
of that to come back as it is ondays like 5-6 seven of a normal
week. Anyway, yeah.
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Do you know so? Yeah.
And I suppose that's a really good point as well, Paddy, that
even though like you might miss a, a dose, right, and you will
start having all the food noise back and the hunger suppression
isn't as good. The medication is still in your
body. It's just not working as well.
So be careful, be very mindful. Yeah, yeah.
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And very mindful, very demure. Umm yeah.
Umm, cool. Any other tips you have there
for Christmas or anything? Was in the house.
Umm. I think like the, the main one
really is just to be more gentleon yourself, just to allow
yourself a bit of grace and but just be careful while you're
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doing it because you know, nobody wants the side effects
that come with these medications.
I suppose that's kind of it really.
What what's, what's your take onit, Paddy?
I I had images of you there, Jessica Fletcher style, writing
out your notes with your little typewriter.
Like tap tap tapping away. I have everything on my phone.
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Stop it. Did you just put the sound of a
typewriter in? You'd still be on to me Patty.
The Wi-Fi is not working in me typewriter.
I can't get the input right. Buddy, can we think of any of
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the other questions that girls would have sent in?
I think that's covered. It really hasn't it about I I
think I'm going to miss a dose. I thinking about starting it
this week. You know, what will I do if I
overeat? The thing is, again, trust the
process, trust the medication, trust your body and listen to
your body. Because again, as Paddy said
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earlier, you might feel like youcan overeat on those chocolate
sweets as you're passing them oryou're sitting down watching the
telly, but your body will tell you to stop.
Yeah, your mind will tell you tostop.
You would have gotten through a fair amount of them, like energy
wise because they're quite calorie dense and energy dense
before you get to that point. That's the problem, because
they're not filling, so your body won't get that full signal.
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It'll take you longer to get that full signal with food like
that, so any which would even bethe.
Sickness will come quicker. Could do, Yeah.
Yeah. Depending on how your body
reacts. Umm, yeah.
I think we've covered this one of those how to deal with
pressure to eat and drink from friends and family because it's
Christmas. I think we've kind of touched on
that. Yeah.
And like not to be afraid to sayI do not know I'm OK.
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Yeah, but the but the Irish are not great at taking that.
You know, but they're not. But then that's where I say my
thing is if it's food, I leave it on the plate.
I live. And then like just.
Leave it. Yeah, it's been forced on you.
Take. It and leave it.
Just leave it, you know, prioritize.
They learn. Prioritize you and what is going
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to support your goals physicallybut more so mentally.
You know, umm. Think about how you're going to
feel when you walk away from that table and you're going to
be so, so full and so, so sick from it, you know?
So you're doing that to keep somebody else happy.
Don't. But then equally, do not do that
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if it's the case someone's goingover with more desert and you're
like, actually not, I would likethat.
Like don't beat yourself up about that either.
Enjoy it, you know, like, so there is that.
It is that balance of if it's something you do not want, I
guess it is because being able to say no thank you, as simple
as it is, we know it's difficult, but that will give
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you almost another tool in your box as time goes by to get more
comfortable saying no, no, I'm OK, thanks.
Or as I say, just give me a small portion and I'll go back
for seconds and I'll see how I I'll help myself because people
love here and all they're going to help themselves.
Oh yeah, it's over there in the kitchen like.
Oh yeah, leave them off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, he's going to. He'll go back for more like
Grant and. But, you know, again, just being
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mindful of our audience and thatthere are so many people out
there that people do not know even their closest do not know
that they're on it, you know? Yeah.
Absolutely. It's hard.
It is hard. You know, I know, I know women
that are taking this drug in complete secrecy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, same, same. And yeah, absolutely.
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And I think as well, particularly, you know, that old
Irish thing off you have to clean your plate.
You can't cut up with the table till your dinner is gone, you
know, And that's. Yeah, I, I remember talking
about that with a therapist before, like, you know, we were
talking about kind of food and stuff like that and how deep
rooted that is in so many people's minds off you don't cut
up from, you know. So I know that there is a big
challenge there. And it's something that we're
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kind of taught and we're taught that leaving food is bad on
plate. But, you know, I think this is
where as adults, and as we kind of are on this journey and, and,
and trying to make better decisions and choices that are
supportive of our, of our journey.
You know, some sometimes there are going to be awkward
conversations. And that I don't mean
necessarily having to tell people at the medication, but I
mean that kind of just saying about.
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Why you're not? Just saying eating.
The way you used to. You're just saying no thank you,
you know, or no, I'm all right. No, I'm full and.
But I get where you're coming from with the deep rooted trauma
about having to clean your placeand all of that.
Like I remember umm being on a diet I think when I was 15 and
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the top tip we were given was ifyou don't want to eat it or you
feel full, put washing up liquidon it, push pepper on it and
then put it in the bin. Like.
And I did. I did.
That's what I used to do to stopme from eating something.
Yeah. Didn't.
Didn't. I'm gonna help 10 minutes later
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though, yeah. Or, eh, whilst you were talking
there, something else I thought of is if somebody is pushing it
or is like what? Whatever another thing you'd
like. Do you know what?
I'm full now, but I'll take withme if that's all right.
I'll have it tomorrow. Oh yeah, yeah, something like
that, you know, because again, people love all they're taking
me food, so there's. Yes, people love that.
Yeah, yeah, I bring it home actually and have it later.
Exactly. And then they pile it up for
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you. Yeah, going home there with
three dinners under your. Arm and it could save you
cooking the next day yeah exactly.
So, you know, there is those kind of little things, but just
try and prioritize something that is going to give you, umm,
that kind of mental support and kind of comfort and yeah.
The backup. You need that backup, don't you?
Those phrases like, Oh yeah, actually, do you know, would you
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mind if I talk it with me? Umm, I was going to ask you if
Santa's coming, but. Oh yeah, Santa's, you know, umm.
You're on that naughty list. I was in the car the other day
with their youngest and he was in the back of the car and I was
driving and he rubbed his belly and I said, what's up with you,
bud? And he goes, oh, I'm just so
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excited. He actually had butterflies in
his stomach that he was nearly shaking out the back of the car
at the pole and Santi coming. And you know what?
He's going around telling everyone he's only found, I've
only found this out the past twodays.
He's telling everyone he's getting a fucking harmonica for
Christmas. That child has never mentioned a
harmonica to me. But you know what, they might
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have had to mention it to you. But I'm, you know, Santa
sometimes, as we know, can can get.
Oh. He won't be getting a harmonica.
Oh, is the North Pole out of them?
Huh. North Pole might be a North.
Pole are out. Yeah, because it might be a bit
late now for the elves to get those built in time.
Yes, yeah, and Santa doesn't really like loud noises.
OK, OK, OK Oh, Santa. So, Belinda, are we going to
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have a New Year's episode out orwhat?
What's our plan I. Think So what?
What day does it? Does it all fall on?
Does it? Happen because I don't know what
day it is. So Wednesday is, yeah, I think
we will, Paddy. I think we can do that, yeah.
Yeah. So we're saying to have an
episode out on the 3rd We yeah, absolutely all.
(45:45):
Right, OK. My life is my life is all freed
up now and everything. My mornings, my evenings,
everything. Mine's really quiet too, I never
really do anything. Yeah, shut up, he says after
coming out with a penthouse. And what was the hotel?
You're around what? Was the name of the hotel the
Glass House since LIGO? Yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
(46:05):
It's only on the Internet, Obviously.
I've gone up there now, yeah. Yeah, you know, it wasn't I
Yeah, because this. You're you're up so high, it was
swaying. Is that what you said?
Not far off, like we're on the top floor.
Yeah, we're on the top floor. And there was the storm last
night. So by God, we could hear it.
It was wild. So.
But it was brilliant that we were really cozy and it was
really nice and a lovely dinner.Yeah, it was, it was fab.
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Or it was only done up. And so we still actually, we're
in that exact room for Christmasnight last year as well, just by
coincidence. And it had just been done up
then. So it is, it's it's nice and
it's nice to see year on that. The standard is still maintained
there. So that's good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Umm, open into lookout. It's been a pleasure.
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As always, Paddy, as always, andjust to everybody that's
listening, just be gentle, be mindful and take it easy on
yourself, yeah. Right.
Yeah, take it easy on yourself. And yeah.
Yeah, tough time of year. It is a tough time of year.
It is. It can cause a lot of anxiety
for people, you know, stress andstuff like that.
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And as I said, just keep in mind, no matter what, one week,
even two weeks, it's not going to break the journey in the
grand scheme of things. So don't be, don't be sitting
there. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
You know the bigger picture of life is more important than one
week or two week on its own. Yeah, and we'll be checking in
anyway. We will.
(47:30):
Forget to come over to our Instagram.
Let us know what you think. Yeah.
Ask us any questions. We're always there.
Always. And by the time this goes out,
Belinda will have done her firstgym session as part of a new
thing. So go and check Belinda.
And my other new thing is I gaveup alcohol.
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I'm seven days straight. Not that I was drinking seven
days anyway, but I just think that it was hindering my
progression. Yeah, but that's a, that's a
particularly at this time of year.
Yeah, You know, I don't know what I was thinking, Paddy.
I I joined a gym and I gave up alcohol on Christmas week.
And I thought to myself, if I can do it in this week, in this
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moment in time, that I can do itanytime.
Amazing, amazing. I love.
That never. I've never felt so good.
Honestly. I'm jumping out of the bed.
See, by now, like the kids have been off school and, you know,
all the rushing around, getting the presents and the stress.
I definitely would have had a bottle of wine.
Yeah. But I would there's this morning
round of applause for you again.Oh thanks mate.
(48:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sorry, you were saying you'd
woke up the next morning. Yeah, yeah, Bush in saying that
as well, especially for the women out there that are in
perimenopause and the sweat and the anxiety and the palpitations
and the waking up at 3:00 in themorning.
I do not miss that. Yeah, I don't.
Now, that's not to say I won't have a glass of red wine with my
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Christmas dinner, but I mightn't, and I don't even feel
now that I will. But if I do, I.
Do I don't, I don't yeah. And this thing like because I
say I don't drink a huge amount,like like it doesn't really
bother me. Don't no, I don't.
But like I would easily say get a like one of the zero per
second or something like that, the cheap ones, not the durons
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because it kills me to pay like Dorset for 0 alcohol.
And but again, my go to is like my goat is just a pint of my
body. I just love it.
Like it's just. I know I'll just, I'll just
drink and tonic water. Yeah, like ice and lemon in it.
Is that because you're some tonic yourself?
You're some dose. No, not flashing yet.
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And all right, Belinda, it is that time for us to say adios
amigos to our friends. Christmas, everybody.
Christmas. I had tried to try to find some
Christmas music, but I just wasn't, wasn't organized enough.
So I wasn't because this was a bit of an impromptu recording
that we said we would do, but a bit.
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Yeah. But umm, folks, have a lovely
Christmas. We will talk to the fireside as
say we are on our pages if you want to check in over the next,
you know, wee while and if you're listening to this after
Christmas. Hope you've had a good one and
all the best for 2025. Good luck everybody.
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None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
medical care team.
None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
medical care team. Belinda, you, you're totally
froze there while you're dancing.
So we got like Belinda, just like that.
(00:40):
Hello folks. You're welcome along to another
edition of The Dose with myself,Paddy and.
Belinda. Yes, quicker off the mark this
time than. I know, forgot my name last
week. We we are trying recording via a
new way. So we've no idea how that's
(01:01):
going to turn out, but hopefullyit's going to be OK be.
Grand Yeah, have these famous last words big around?
Yeah, you're definitely going quite blurry on me, though.
Visually I can hear you fine, blinded, but you, yeah, you're
going really blur. I think it's just because you're
on the old Wi-Fi. I do think it's.
That oh, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't have Elon Musk's Internet unfortunately from the.
(01:21):
Where's your Where's your Internet box?
Is it far from your computer? Downstairs, Downstairs.
Yeah, OK. You are much clearer though.
Way, way. You're like high definition,
Yeah. Good.
It's the way the way I live, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So, Belinda, it's like Christmasweek.
(01:41):
I. Know like it's a big week, big
week in our house. Big week, big week.
Busy. Busy, busy.
Busy, busy, busy so you have This is not your first Christmas
though on like a medicated weight loss journey it is for
me. It's not.
Yeah, that's right. We're opposite sides, aren't we?
(02:03):
Really? Because this is my third.
Yeah. This is your first, Yeah.
Yeah, and now we spoke, we did speak about some of this on the
Instagram Live the other night and we decided that we're
actually just going to do a dedicated recording, umm, a
short recording just talking about this as well.
Umm, so Belinda as a as a expert, as a vintage patient.
(02:32):
Geriatric. OK, yeah, so I tell you, let's
get a sense, Paddy, of how you feel going into your first
Christmas on a medicated weight loss journey.
Because I think most of the people that I know that I speak
to are just starting out their journey, umm, in the past 6789
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months. And I suppose they're wanting to
know how you're preparing or howyou're going to kind of manage
it all. Yeah, it like it's an
interesting one because I didn'tgive too much thought to it
until about maybe two weeks ago.And I was sitting on the couch
by myself at home and there was like a tub of sweets beside me.
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And I found myself just going for them because they were
there. I definitely was not hungry at
all. And I thought, oh, I, I don't
know how many had eaten. Like I, I really describe not
maybe maybe 7 or 8, something like that.
And the first one is like, why me eating these?
They're not even nice. They're not like they're not
nice. They're they're really sweet,
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but they're not nice. So they're not.
You weren't, would you? Would you say that you weren't
getting the same kind of hit offof them as you would have
previously to? You see, it's hard to say
because I wasn't hungry. I didn't, I definitely didn't
feel I was getting any kind of benefit or like, yeah, pleasure
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from them. Like, yeah, but then it got me
thinking, did I ever before get pleasure from them or was it
just a. Habit.
And were and were you just sitting?
Yeah. Were you just sitting on your
couch eating them? Because literally, that's what
we used to do. Exactly.
Habit. It's habit.
And then I started overthinking.Wait a minute, like I I started
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eating. Oh my God, is there something
wrong? Because this happened a few
nights that week, right? And it kind of got me thinking,
Oh my God, the medication is notworking.
There's something wrong. Why me these sweets have not
hungry previously like I have had I felt like very false after
me a meal or something and that I do me like hours and hours and
hours. I'm not feeling hungry.
So why am I eating these? I don't feel physically hungry.
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And then I thought, wait a minute, a couple of things.
This is the first time that I'vebeen in this situation, this
environment since I started thisjourney.
On this medication. On this medication.
So this is a new thing for me. Yeah, to like.
And what I'll, what I'll say to you around that as well is
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Paddy, see, when you started your journey and you were just
on your treadmill running along day-to-day, you were getting
used to it. Every single day.
You were learning new things because on this journey, you
have to relearn so many things, habits, things like that.
And nothing really big would have come up until now.
(05:27):
So now you're going into a new situation, a new environment,
and you're going to have to relearn more things, yeah.
Absolutely, Absolutely. I.
Yeah. No, it is, it is, it is
definitely a new thing. And I think there there's a lot
of the last kind of six months have been, yeah, there has been
new things. But that was predominantly in
the first maybe couple of monthswhere it's like, oh, this is new
or that is new. And then I guess I have felt
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very ash peace and understandingthe journey that I was on.
So then when I was in this new thing of like all these sweets
for me and kind of going for them, I was like, OK, this is
interesting because this is definitely a learned behaviour,
behaviour from life as opposed to any kind of, you know,
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physical thing driving me to want to have these.
And so I sat there and I was like, I don't want these, I'm
not going to have them. But then equally I did also, I
guess flip it on the other side off, OK, but let's rationalize
this a little bit more. People who aren't on this
journey at Christmas time definitely have more sweets than
they might have during the year.And I think that's the other
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thing as well is not to completely overanalyze things
that it's Christmas, you're going to have some things that
maybe you wouldn't have because everybody does it.
Do you know what I mean? It's just more so I guess for me
being aware of you're, you're like maybe you haven't just had
a few sweets now. You're maybe had more than a few
sweets now. Do you know what I mean?
(06:52):
Yeah. But also I think what we're
going to have to do as well as acollective is to learn to listen
to our bodies and trust our bodies.
Trust the medication and trust the process a little bit more.
Because understandably, you are not going to be able to eat as
much as you did previous to Modaro or Ozempic.
(07:14):
So you really have to dig deep and listen to your body, umm,
this time around Christmas, because it's nothing that you've
been through yet. So.
The thing that's interesting with this is thinking about this
this week. Actually, it only came into my
mind this week and I think abouthow when we think about when we
get full, OK, when we're on the medication, typically we will
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have had food that is, umm, quite filling food because it
has a good bit of fibre in it, it has a good bit of protein in
it. It's stuff like that which is
going to make us feel physicallyfuller.
For you to get that same sense of fullness from sweets, it's
still going to take quite a goodbit of junk for you to feel full
(08:00):
because they're so morable, because there's so many, uh,
like calories and sugar and all this thing in, in even 1 little
sweet, you'll still have gone through quite a few of them
before you get that full. You will get that full feeling
at some point, but you'll have you'll.
Also feel sicker quicker. Yes, yes, definitely.
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Yeah, so you could eat an awful lot of, uh, protein and fibre
and your vegetables and whateverand eat a decent yeah size meal
and you wouldn't feel sick from it.
Yeah, you definitely will feel sick and be the really kind of
thing to remember as well is that if you do start feeling
like that, then you could possibly bring on side effects
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that you haven't had in the pastsix months.
So you need to be very, very aware of that.
And I will say as well that withthese medications, the what is
it? The perfect storm is fat and
sugar together. I say if you had umm, Black
Forest gateau or cheesecake absolutely saturated with fat
(09:05):
and sugar and that will just your, your stomach will not like
that. Yeah, you will get side effects
from that. And it's not side effects from
the drug, it's side effects fromwhat you're ingesting.
It's. Whilst on the medication.
And similarly, for some people, it can be that they may get side
effects with things like the greasy food and alcohol and a
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combination of all of now I, I've not had side effects from.
I don't think there's been any further.
I said there was one night, there was one night where I was
sick when I was in Belfast recently.
But I do genuinely think that was because I had a random
cocktail that had like raw egg whites whipped on it and stuff
(09:47):
like that. And I think it was I, I
genuinely think it was that as opposed to anything else,
because I've eaten pretty much anything I've wanted.
I've drank pretty much anything I've wanted.
What's been on this journey? Obviously not to excess.
I know extent but also insane that as well because you've not
been on a diet. Exactly, exactly.
And still, for the most part, I am extremely conscious of want
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to get my protein, want to get my fiber, want to get my
protein. Like even yesterday I was out
for myself. My husband went out for our kind
of little Christmas Day out thatwe normally do.
And we went into Japanese restaurant.
And if you're on my eh, Instagram, you may have already
seen this, but I put up a picture of what my of what my
lunch was and it was chicken teppanyaki, which is so good, so
(10:31):
good. I look lush.
Yeah, there was like so much chicken in it and and this is
the thing, I was like, I want something I really like, but I
want to be somewhat mindful still of what my body needs.
So I was like, how am I going tobounce it?
So I had eh chicken gooses just because I love them.
I didn't give I I was not thinking protein or fiber When I
had that. I was like, I just love chicken
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and they're not massive. I was like, I'm going to have me
chicken gooses and then the chipand the chip and the chicken had
the chip and is right. The eh chicken teppanyaki, Umm
was gorgeous because it had a load of the start with
vegetables and a load of chickenand then it had the teriyaki
sauce and stuff. But for me, it was like, you
know what? This is the perfect example of a
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lunch that really hit the spot because it's really tasty.
It it is a treat for me, but it still supported my protein and
fiber kind of goals as well. So it was.
It was a nice one. Because you always have to think
about that in the background. But I think it's not that you
have to, you just get used. To it.
Yeah, you do, You do. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is good. And I think as well, a big thing
for people going into Christmas that are new to the journey are,
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are on the journey and people don't know that they're on the
journey is umm, having to explain why you're not eating
like you would have done previously.
Because I know that if I was going up to my mum's house and
everybody was there and we were all sitting down for dinner and
I just, I will, I'll just have aflat plate of food with little
bits of everything because I want to try everything.
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But previous to that I would have had a mountain of food.
And and do you tell people? Ask for huh do.
You tell people then or how do you handle that when they're
like, oh, why aren't you eating more or why you haven't?
Me personally, yeah. What do you do?
Every single, every single person I know knows that I'm on
it. I shout about it all the time.
Yeah, all the time, yeah. But there's an awful lot of
people and I speak to them everyday.
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And there's some in my subscribers group as well that
nobody knows that. They're yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, because. So I think the the advice for
them would be to just take a deep breath and say something
like, oh, you know what? I'm just lately I've just
started listening to my body andI'm really.
And it's really helping. Yeah.
Because that's. Literally, if you don't want
people to know, just say that. Because I have some houses that
(12:40):
I go to, our place that I go or whatever.
And it's not that I don't talk about the medication.
Of course I do. Sure.
Like I have it on social media that, but more so it's not, you
know, something like I don't getthis big conversation, but
something. So what I've started doing is
when I'm going somewhere for dinner, I'm like, do you know
what? Just put out a small portion for
me. If I'm hungry, I'll come back
for a second, but just give me asmall portion of it off.
(13:02):
Well, yeah. And if they're like, if they
were like, oh, you have more, you have more.
I'm like, no, no, honestly, if you put it out, it's just going
to go to waste. So just give me the small
portion and if I want to pick a little bit more, I'll go over
and get something. And I much prefer to do that.
Much prefer. And if they don't listen to me
and if they give me a big portion.
Which they don't generally. I will nearly always
intentionally leave food so thatthey get the message then
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because again, as you say, not everybody might want to get into
that or you know, might be in a place that they can get into it.
So that's still something I'll do.
Definitely is like, Oh no, just going to be a small portion.
And you know what? I'll go back for more if I want.
I'll go back to. It yeah, yeah, yeah.
But don't feel bad about. It and it's it's tough.
It is tough for people that are not, that are not telling people
about it, you know? And like.
And I think as well, like the the fear that some people have
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going into the Christmas season as well is just just with all
the food being around, you know,I think that the best thing that
you can possibly do is just focus on other things.
Fill your day and fill your mindand your hands and everything
with other things. Just kind of think about the
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joy, think about what you're going to do with the kids, think
about wrapping the presents, youknow what I mean?
And, and I think that will happen automatically for you
anyway once you just kind of tryand relax into it.
Because we are spending our daysnow not thinking about food.
We're not, we're not spending our days anymore thinking about
the next meal and what we're going to have and how much of it
can we have, you know, so, but Ido think it's heightened.
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I definitely think it's heightened now.
And. The other thing that I know
we've both said before as well is if you do have a day or two
whatever, whereby maybe your food intake or whatever isn't
what you ideally would have liked it to be or isn't what you
would have planned, you know, maybe intended for it to be or
whatever. And it just ends up being
(14:52):
different. Maybe the plans go out the wind
or something happens and you endup having to eat out or whatever
and you're not able to do what you had intended to do.
Don't beat yourself up about it.One or two days or even one week
or two weeks. In the grand scheme of the, for
most of us, it's a pretty long journey.
It's not going to make or break it.
So yeah, be be be kind to yourselves.
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Be kind to yourself, Yeah, be a bit more gentle with yourself in
this period of time. And also I think that you know
at the end of the day, if you do, like we said this the other
night, Paddy, if you do go to the scales afterwards and you
are up a pound or two, what was it you said?
It, it, it, it is highly unlikely that the weight that
you see up is going to be body fat that you have now gained
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over the the course of a few days.
So say for example, if we take me right and I don't know, I'm
going to guess here that my maintenance calories for me just
to maintain my weight could be something like say 3000
calories. That's it's probably more
actually, but just for the purpose of this.
So for me to gain a pound or twoover, like for me to gain a
(15:58):
pound or two. Over maintenance, yeah.
I would need to eat my maintenance and then an extra
say 7000 calories for me to potentially regain 2 lbs.
So like that amount of food. I know it's it's, yeah, but it
is. On this medication, it's an
impossibility. It will be extremely different,
(16:20):
yeah. Like it's way more likely going
to be food sitting in your tummyfrom the slowed digestive
emptying. It's going to be maybe
additional hydration levels if you've had some more liquid in
you. It could be stress from the
week. It could be poor sleep.
And it could be like time of themonth, not for me, but for many
people it could be, you know. So like there is lots and a
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combination of all those. So I would say if anything.
Apart from the food. Yeah, exactly.
It's more likely those and a combination of those, yeah.
Then actually the food you've eaten, you know so and.
Then I think as well, when you, if, if you do stand up in the
scales and I, I recommend that you don't, umm, if you do see
that couple of pounds or whatever, just get right back to
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your normal, your normal passionand hydrate yourself.
Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate and. You know you.
Will see, you will see it shift quite quickly, quicker than you
would have done all through the past 68910 months.
And that's actually a thing. Umm, about the scales, I would
love if people were like, do youknow what the one thing I am
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going to take a breather from over Christmas is the scales and
don't weigh yourself at the end of Christmas.
If you're somebody that weighs weekly, don't weigh yourself,
you know, at the end of Christmas week.
Wait until you know, maybe the, the, the following weekend, the
first weekend of the new year because you're giving yourself
your body that chance to kind ofnormalize again, to kind of
recalibrate. Umm, So that's what I would
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advise if if you're into that kind of same weighing kind of
weekly, just definitely take a week off the weighing if
anything, you know, Yeah. And.
And yeah, what, what's your planwith the weighing?
Are you going to do that? Because we know that you've hit
this massive, massive milestone in the past two weeks.
And my God, congratulations. Thank you.
Help people. So yeah, so umm, the 15th of
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December was my six month anniversary since I started on
umm, and in kind of the the weekbeforehand I kind of said, oh,
I'm about a pound and a half offhitting six stone weight loss.
And I was thinking, you know what, if I could hit that by New
Year, that'd be amazing. So I was hoping, you know, I'm
(18:31):
giving myself it was I think just over two weeks or something
like that to try and lose that pound and a half and I would
have been delighted with that. But anyway, on the 15th, umm, I
stood on the scales and to the ounce Belinda to the Oh, I've
seen. It.
Yeah, to the ounce. It was exactly 6 stones achieved
(18:54):
on my 6 month anniversary from when I started on gyro and.
That was faith. It just blew.
Meant to happen. Like I couldn't believe that it
was to the ounce. It just blew my life it.
Was mental, wasn't it? It was crazy, absolutely crazy.
So, so yeah. So that's that's I I definitely
did not think at the start of this year.
And actually the whole other thing started this year that
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I've never spoke about. Umm, I don't know if this
podcast get into, but umm, at the start of this year that I
haven't even spoke to you about a different attempt that I
tried. OK, so I haven't spoke for this
in podcast before. Actually, it could be good
timing. Umm, this time of year a lot of
people are obviously thinking about what am I going to do in
the new year, what is my plan? You know, we know Monjaro is
(19:37):
going to be available in the Republic of Ireland soon.
Actually, it is now available via a new dispenser which umm.
You're going to talk about. Yeah, umm, so it is available.
I'll just tell the address. It's my hyphen BMI dot, IE.
They are now delivering Monjaro to the Republic of Ireland, but
we'll talk more about that in a future episode hopefully, or on
(19:58):
a read or something. We will say yeah.
We will, umm, so anyway, umm, yeah, people are, you know,
assessing different things. One of the areas where people
spend a lot of time kind of reviewing things about the
social media. So they're going to be looking
at online personal trainers, online plans, online programs,
all this kind of stuff. And loads of those can be
absolutely phenomenal folks. They really can.
OK, There are some amazing personal trainers out there both
(20:21):
in person and online that can bephenomenal.
But a word of warning I will give you, Just because somebody
has a large follower account as a personal trainer does not
necessarily mean that they're going to be a good personal
trainer for you or that they're any more credible than say a
local personal trainer or a personal trainer who may have a
smaller following. Now, I've been around personal
(20:44):
trainers extensively for the last 14 odd years.
Umm, both haven't worked. You are a.
Personal trainer. I'm a qualified personal trainer
myself, yeah. So both in that capacity haven't
trained with some umm, followingthem multitude different ways.
So it's an area that I would know a good bit about.
(21:04):
And at the start of this year, Iwas looking at again, you know,
like many of us, I need to do something and, and I need to do
some, yeah, I need to do something to try and lose weight
again. And because nothing has worked
before. And there was a personal trainer
(21:26):
that I followed that has a massive following and put up a
lot of very credible and videos about, you know, weight loss and
obesity and stuff like this. And, and I really respected
them. The content that they put out.
And I do think their content they put out online is, is
really, really good. So I got in touch with them
(21:48):
because they were offering a plan.
And I think it was, I'm going tosay it was a £250 a month,
something like that. I think it was something like
that, umm, 200, two 150. I have double check.
Anyway, it was. We we think that's a lot, don't
we? It is a lot for.
And that's for online that's notin person.
Yeah, now if, if, if, if you're getting, it's depending, this is
(22:11):
where it comes into what supportyou're getting, all this kind of
stuff. OK, so I was thinking, OK, you
know, I, I was told it was goingto be a weekly check insurance.
It's going to be the way, it's going to be the progress
pictures, it's going to be checking the food, it's going to
be the personalized plan, all this kind of stuff.
And this person had qualifications specifically in
like obesity and weight. Man, I was like, this feels like
a really good fit. So I got really hyped up because
(22:33):
I'd done so much research and itwas a big financial investment.
Had to do a minimum of three months as well.
So I was tying myself in for nearly a grand worth of stuff,
right? Yeah.
And I'd say 2-3 weeks in, I was like.
You did join. I did join and I thought this is
(22:56):
shocking, this is shocking. When was this?
January. Of this year they were using
like a generic platform that is used by loads person trainers
which can work effectively. Eh, you know, depending how it's
used. The check insurance were
mediocre. The workout was one that to be
honest, ChatGPT could have done ChatGPT is pretty decent and it
(23:21):
was it was so poor. There was no in, I did not feel
any bit of individualized approach or programming or
discussion or check in or anything.
For me, I felt it was really, really, really poor and I felt
so disheartened. There was no, I didn't feel that
there was any leaning in from any of the qualifications this
(23:43):
person had that were being applied to me to help me, to
coach me. There was no coaching actually
at all. It was pretty much like a, Oh
yeah, keep doing what you're doing type thing or stuff like
that. And I and.
That was your. That was your check in.
That was my check in. I was devastated because I knew
I was tied in for a three month thing as well, so I could not
(24:05):
wait for that to be over becauseI felt so disheartened and.
Did you continue on kind of justwith the flow?
Yeah, I kind of I kind of went with the flow and I remember the
last check in or the second lastor whatever was in the last
month of it. I got LAX.
I think, OK, I'm going to see how much do the chase me or that
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and there was very little and and I had even my subscription
had even ended before they even realized and before they even
reached out to me. So they hadn't even copped that
my programming with them had finished it.
It was it was so bad. Anyway, the moral of this story
is folks, do not sign up for anyonline personal trainer, of
course, until you've had the chance to have a consultation
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with them beforehand and get confirmation of exactly what
level of support is it you are going to get from them.
How individual and personalized is that?
And try not to get tied into something that is Mon multiple
months on end. OK, And I know some per person
friends won't like me for sayingthat, but you have to protect
your investment just as much as they have to and they need to
(25:07):
prove themselves. So if it's a case that, you
know, maybe you can come to an agreement of no, do you know
what? The first month or two, I'm only
doing it month, one month, 2 month by month.
But then after that, if the, if the service is supportive of me,
then yeah, we can, we can look at something that is like, you
know, a three month plan or something.
But yeah, just be wary. As well to be wary, obviously.
But Paddy, you are, you are so invested in figuring out what is
(25:34):
best for you and you do your homework on everything.
Anything that you put your moneyor your mail to, you just invest
in it. And you need to know what you're
going to get out of it. And you obviously did that,
Yeah. And even haven't done that,
yeah. Yeah, yeah.
And I remember talking to my friends at the time and they
were just devastated for me because, again, the cost of it,
you know? Yeah.
That's too much. That's more than what my
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medication has costed. Do you know?
Yeah. Yeah, it's way too much.
Now I have invested in a gym. I start tomorrow morning at
6:40. Five I love this I.
Want to? Play something for this So gym.
Oh no, not that one what I've been doing.
Here we go. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. But I am shitting it.
But anyway, listen, it's a localgym, umm, and it is nearly on my
doorstep and I know the guys in there and I, it's a small group
trainings, small group strength training.
And it's eight people in a room and I've been in, I've been had
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my introduction. They've gone through the whole
kind of on boarding thing with me and I'm going into some
machine in the morning where it's going to tell me loads of
stuff about my body. I don't know what it is but
turning up early to do it. An in body by a chance?
No, that's what it's called. Maybe, maybe hang on now, um.
Tanata machine either or something like that.
(27:01):
Umm, but that's really, I'm excited to see you come because
as people will know, I firmly believe that the regardless if
you're on a weight loss journey or not, that the best form of
movement you can be doing for your longevity and your overall
health is strength based training.
And that can look like, like different things for different
people. Umm, but in terms of just the
benefits, particularly when you're on a weight loss journey,
(27:23):
that kind of strength based training, it's just so
phenomenal. And I know we spoke with this
and I know you really enjoy the other bits and pieces you've
been doing too, and they're phenomenal.
But I'll continue. I'll.
Continue to losing, yeah, but umm, so I'm really excited to
see how you get on because I think you're going to be
phenomenal at it. Yeah, you're going to be
brilliant, and I think you're going to surprise yourself.
In body what? Is that Yeah, yeah, in body.
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I was talking to one of the trainers, Heather.
And so we have an in body machine in the gym which measure
your weight, body fat percentageand muscle mass.
And you can do it on your first day if you.
Want. And I just said to her, oh, I
said, that sounds dangerous. I'm in.
No do because so you know the way I got a DEXA scan done a few
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months ago. Yes.
So it's it's kind it's kind of similar to DEXA scan.
It's not say in in a medical setting, but it's a similar
thing. So what I'd be looking for there
is I'd be looking for the trendswhen you get your next one done.
OK, so I don't obsess too much with the numbers, but do look at
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the trends to see OK, well how is my muscle?
Has it stayed the same, gone up or down?
How are the other bits? So that's the way I'd definitely
be looking at that because there's one of the gyms in town
has 1 and I was thinking of getting an in body done as an
interim. Wasn't waiting for my next DEXA
scan as well actually. OK, yeah.
And so should I just do this tomorrow then and then do my six
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weeks because I've paid up for six weeks and then and it was
only 100 or £250 for the six weeks?
That's brilliant. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Umm, and then I'll just wait,
shall I, till the six weeks are up and do it again.
Yes, I would. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not the type thing you needto do to.
Find my body measurements though, will it?
Umm, they might. So they might take your
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measurements to key them in for you.
I'm not sure. Like usually.
So, So what it is, it's it's a platform that you usually stand
on. You take your shoes and socks
off and it'll have sensors, metal sensors beneath your feet,
and then there'll be handles that you hold and it sends a
tiny, umm, electronic, umm, electrical, sorry signal through
your body. And basically what it does is
(29:28):
depending on how long it takes that signal to go from point A
to B to C to D, and depending onhow many points there, it will
determine basically, you know, how hydrated are you, how much
muscle have you and how much kind of all that, all the other
bits that. Yeah, how much that.
So that's the way it kind of works is kind of like from an
electrical little signal that itsends through your body.
Yeah. Hey, that's going to be
interesting. Yeah.
(29:50):
Excellent. Yeah, Yeah, that's good.
Yeah. Yeah, and I.
Think, but yeah, but but again, like what you're saying about
when the new year comes and everybody has the same total, I
need to do something, I need to do this, I need to do that.
Just take your time. Yeah, yeah, do do take your time
and like, like I'm working with a strength coach, uh, since
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September and like, I'll get frustrated still if there's a
movement I can't get right or can't don't get the first time.
I, I won't give up though. I won't give up.
I'll because I love getting the coaching technique and tips from
him. Like he's brilliant.
He's he's phenomenal. And I see this as such a
brilliant investment in just, yeah, overall health and
(30:32):
longevity. But even though, umm, sorry, I
just have a fog of my thought, it never goes back.
Umm, but even the night we're doing umm, this move and I just,
my range of motion just was not there.
Umm, so he was helping me with that.
And fairly we, we were kind of able to progress it.
But umm, it's still, you know, even a few months in, it's still
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important to remember that when you do something new, even
though you might have been doingsomething similar for a while,
just be kind to yourself again because you know, something's
going to be new and something's going to be difficult.
And everybody's body, just like with the medication, everybody's
body is different. Your range of motion, your
ability, the weight you can lift, all that kind of stuff.
Previous. Injuries.
Totally that. Kind of stuff, yeah.
And and also, I think even the length of your femur.
(31:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. To do with the way you squash as
well doesn't. It like.
How your movement? Will talk like your torso versus
your lower body, even your arm length.
All this kind of stuff can can be.
And this was one of the things Iwas trying to do because like
I'm, I say 6 foot one or whatever, and the movement was
for me to have a dumbbell overhead and a windmill I've got
and then get my hand down to theground.
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I'm like, my legs are too long for this.
My legs are too long. Umm.
But it was good. I got there in the end.
Not pretty, but we got there. Yeah.
So yeah, yeah. It's.
Not about the gracefulness. No, no, definitely not graceful
speaking enough in grace I will.I will definitely, definitely
TuneIn and let everybody know. Actually, I might bring in my
(31:56):
phone with me in the morning andsee if I can do a little bit of
umm. Why don't you do?
Instagramming. A like a dedic, a weekly update,
a series for your Instagram, like on your on your highlights.
Talking about that tomorrow. Oh, I think that'd be brilliant.
You'd love that, wouldn't you? I would Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. Umm, yeah.
I went. I went to ice skating yesterday.
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Oh yeah, you looked really good on the on the ice, actually.
Congratulations. Thank you.
Thank you. Very graceful, yeah, yeah, very.
Not even taking the piss like. Like, surprisingly, I didn't
fall. I don't know how I didn't fall,
but I didn't fall. I was amazed with myself.
You've done it before though I think maybe?
Oh, like twice. Three times, maybe like years
ago. I wouldn't do it now, be too
(32:39):
afraid of my back. I'd I'd be petrified.
Yeah. But the thing that that struck
me was my legs, like how much istense in my muscles and my core
And like I was like, wow, that felt like a good workout because
I was being so mindful of not falling over.
When you're in those situations,what happens is all the smaller
little muscles in your body are all kind of shaken trying to
figure out, OK, what are we meant to do here to support this
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is new, blah, blah, blah. And so it's actually really good
workout as well. Nice.
And what you would have felt it afterwards then I'm sure I.
Can still feel it today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Nice one.
Yeah. Give it another go.
Yeah, we'll see. I don't know.
It's like €20 for 45 minutes, which I know that could be, I
don't know. But like I, I did half an hour
and I was like, yeah, OK, I'm done now.
It's a bit cold. That's.
Enough of that. That's enough of that, Paddy.
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Yeah, we had some questions comein the other day as well, didn't
we? Yes.
It was about, umm, medication inon the Christmas period, right?
And should I stop taking my medication while Christmas is
going on? And what did we think We
thought, no, no, that's not a good idea.
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And I think for say the likes ofme, even, umm, haven't been on
this for over 2 years now. And for me to think about not
taking my medication now so I could eat as much as I want
would actually be so counter to everything that I've learned and
(34:04):
everything that I have unlearned.
And it just, I, I, I wouldn't doit purely because I don't want
to go back to the way I was before this medication.
Umm, that's my thought on it as well.
And I think you're probably the same.
Are you a? 100% Like I have seen so many
people online saying I'm going to skip a dose because I want to
(34:27):
enjoy Christmas. And to me that translates
rightly or wrongly, that translates to I still see this
as a diet and I want to stop it so I can potentially overeat
again during Christmas, which would indicate there's still
work there to and not. And that's not to put shame on
somebody or anything. It just I hope would highlight
(34:48):
to somebody that do you know what?
Maybe there's a bit of work still to do, umm, on my
relationship with food? Food.
Yeah. And that's OK.
That's OK too. Absolutely 100.
Percent just recognize it. Recognize that the reason that
you want to stop the medication is the reason you started the
medication in the 1st place. You started the medication to
(35:10):
get away from that anxiety, thatculture, Yeah, that culture of
dieting and non dieting, you know, it's not great.
But the only thing is as well, Iwould say to somebody that has
just got their medication and that are thinking about maybe
starting it, you know, this weekor whatever, that probably is
not a good idea. Yeah.
(35:31):
Only because, you know, you're not guaranteed.
It's not guaranteed that you'll have side effects, but certainly
eating the foods that are aroundat the moment will not help side
effects. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
absolutely. And I mean, look at ultimately
you've to do what you feel you know works too.
And again, maybe some people aredeciding that they're going to
skip to us because maybe they doget cytofokes, side side effects
(35:53):
when they take a dose, side effects they get, they get side
effects. Well, skipping the dose Paddy
doesn't necessarily mean that the medication has gone out of
your. System 100% Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
totally, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I guess it's just more so I think both of us are lying on
that, that that idea of if the reason you want to skip a dose
(36:14):
is because you can enjoy food more over Christmas week.
It, it doesn't sit right with meas the right reason for why
somebody would skip a dose. And it's also not the way that
the medication is meant to be used.
You are meant to take it every week.
It now, you know the medicationsnearly all cover if you miss a
dose, you know what you can do then.
But I think people are kind of almost using that on its head as
(36:37):
a way to skirt around intentionally skipping your
dose. And well, just say to like
everybody that's listening in now as well, that even though
you're skipping your dose again,it doesn't mean the medication
has left your body. Yeah.
So be prepared that if you are planning on eating the way you
did previous to Manjaro Aero Zambic, that you could possibly
(37:01):
suffer side effects and you could possibly ruin whole
Christmas, you know. And I couldn't, I couldn't even
imagine because this is what it's like for me.
I couldn't imagine not taking mymedication and going over to my
mum's house and sitting down at the table and eating everything
I wanted to eat. Because with that comes the
(37:22):
torture that was in my head about the calories, the amount
of food I'm eating. What?
The food noise. Like after it food noise, yeah.
Because. Because we know it.
Would want that. Like it can be common for some
of that to come back as it is ondays like 5-6 seven of a normal
week. Anyway, yeah.
(37:43):
Do you know so? Yeah.
And I suppose that's a really good point as well, Paddy, that
even though like you might miss a, a dose, right, and you will
start having all the food noise back and the hunger suppression
isn't as good. The medication is still in your
body. It's just not working as well.
So be careful, be very mindful. Yeah, yeah.
(38:06):
And very mindful, very demure. Umm yeah.
Umm, cool. Any other tips you have there
for Christmas or anything? Was in the house.
Umm. I think like the, the main one
really is just to be more gentleon yourself, just to allow
yourself a bit of grace and but just be careful while you're
(38:28):
doing it because you know, nobody wants the side effects
that come with these medications.
I suppose that's kind of it really.
What what's, what's your take onit, Paddy?
I I had images of you there, Jessica Fletcher style, writing
out your notes with your little typewriter.
Like tap tap tapping away. I have everything on my phone.
(38:57):
Stop it. Did you just put the sound of a
typewriter in? You'd still be on to me Patty.
The Wi-Fi is not working in me typewriter.
I can't get the input right. Buddy, can we think of any of
(39:17):
the other questions that girls would have sent in?
I think that's covered. It really hasn't it about I I
think I'm going to miss a dose. I thinking about starting it
this week. You know, what will I do if I
overeat? The thing is, again, trust the
process, trust the medication, trust your body and listen to
your body. Because again, as Paddy said
(39:39):
earlier, you might feel like youcan overeat on those chocolate
sweets as you're passing them oryou're sitting down watching the
telly, but your body will tell you to stop.
Yeah, your mind will tell you tostop.
You would have gotten through a fair amount of them, like energy
wise because they're quite calorie dense and energy dense
before you get to that point. That's the problem, because
they're not filling, so your body won't get that full signal.
(40:01):
It'll take you longer to get that full signal with food like
that, so any which would even bethe.
Sickness will come quicker. Could do, Yeah.
Yeah. Depending on how your body
reacts. Umm, yeah.
I think we've covered this one of those how to deal with
pressure to eat and drink from friends and family because it's
Christmas. I think we've kind of touched on
that. Yeah.
And like not to be afraid to sayI do not know I'm OK.
(40:23):
Yeah, but the but the Irish are not great at taking that.
You know, but they're not. But then that's where I say my
thing is if it's food, I leave it on the plate.
I live. And then like just.
Leave it. Yeah, it's been forced on you.
Take. It and leave it.
Just leave it, you know, prioritize.
They learn. Prioritize you and what is going
(40:44):
to support your goals physicallybut more so mentally.
You know, umm. Think about how you're going to
feel when you walk away from that table and you're going to
be so, so full and so, so sick from it, you know?
So you're doing that to keep somebody else happy.
Don't. But then equally, do not do that
(41:05):
if it's the case someone's goingover with more desert and you're
like, actually not, I would likethat.
Like don't beat yourself up about that either.
Enjoy it, you know, like, so there is that.
It is that balance of if it's something you do not want, I
guess it is because being able to say no thank you, as simple
as it is, we know it's difficult, but that will give
(41:26):
you almost another tool in your box as time goes by to get more
comfortable saying no, no, I'm OK, thanks.
Or as I say, just give me a small portion and I'll go back
for seconds and I'll see how I I'll help myself because people
love here and all they're going to help themselves.
Oh yeah, it's over there in the kitchen like.
Oh yeah, leave them off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, he's going to. He'll go back for more like
Grant and. But, you know, again, just being
(41:47):
mindful of our audience and thatthere are so many people out
there that people do not know even their closest do not know
that they're on it, you know? Yeah.
Absolutely. It's hard.
It is hard. You know, I know, I know women
that are taking this drug in complete secrecy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, same, same. And yeah, absolutely.
(42:08):
And I think as well, particularly, you know, that old
Irish thing off you have to clean your plate.
You can't cut up with the table till your dinner is gone, you
know, And that's. Yeah, I, I remember talking
about that with a therapist before, like, you know, we were
talking about kind of food and stuff like that and how deep
rooted that is in so many people's minds off you don't cut
up from, you know. So I know that there is a big
challenge there. And it's something that we're
(42:30):
kind of taught and we're taught that leaving food is bad on
plate. But, you know, I think this is
where as adults, and as we kind of are on this journey and, and,
and trying to make better decisions and choices that are
supportive of our, of our journey.
You know, some sometimes there are going to be awkward
conversations. And that I don't mean
necessarily having to tell people at the medication, but I
mean that kind of just saying about.
(42:52):
Why you're not? Just saying eating.
The way you used to. You're just saying no thank you,
you know, or no, I'm all right. No, I'm full and.
But I get where you're coming from with the deep rooted trauma
about having to clean your placeand all of that.
Like I remember umm being on a diet I think when I was 15 and
(43:12):
the top tip we were given was ifyou don't want to eat it or you
feel full, put washing up liquidon it, push pepper on it and
then put it in the bin. Like.
And I did. I did.
That's what I used to do to stopme from eating something.
Yeah. Didn't.
Didn't. I'm gonna help 10 minutes later
(43:32):
though, yeah. Or, eh, whilst you were talking
there, something else I thought of is if somebody is pushing it
or is like what? Whatever another thing you'd
like. Do you know what?
I'm full now, but I'll take withme if that's all right.
I'll have it tomorrow. Oh yeah, yeah, something like
that, you know, because again, people love all they're taking
me food, so there's. Yes, people love that.
Yeah, yeah, I bring it home actually and have it later.
Exactly. And then they pile it up for
(43:54):
you. Yeah, going home there with
three dinners under your. Arm and it could save you
cooking the next day yeah exactly.
So, you know, there is those kind of little things, but just
try and prioritize something that is going to give you, umm,
that kind of mental support and kind of comfort and yeah.
The backup. You need that backup, don't you?
Those phrases like, Oh yeah, actually, do you know, would you
(44:15):
mind if I talk it with me? Umm, I was going to ask you if
Santa's coming, but. Oh yeah, Santa's, you know, umm.
You're on that naughty list. I was in the car the other day
with their youngest and he was in the back of the car and I was
driving and he rubbed his belly and I said, what's up with you,
bud? And he goes, oh, I'm just so
(44:36):
excited. He actually had butterflies in
his stomach that he was nearly shaking out the back of the car
at the pole and Santi coming. And you know what?
He's going around telling everyone he's only found, I've
only found this out the past twodays.
He's telling everyone he's getting a fucking harmonica for
Christmas. That child has never mentioned a
harmonica to me. But you know what, they might
(44:57):
have had to mention it to you. But I'm, you know, Santa
sometimes, as we know, can can get.
Oh. He won't be getting a harmonica.
Oh, is the North Pole out of them?
Huh. North Pole might be a North.
Pole are out. Yeah, because it might be a bit
late now for the elves to get those built in time.
Yes, yeah, and Santa doesn't really like loud noises.
OK, OK, OK Oh, Santa. So, Belinda, are we going to
(45:23):
have a New Year's episode out orwhat?
What's our plan I. Think So what?
What day does it? Does it all fall on?
Does it? Happen because I don't know what
day it is. So Wednesday is, yeah, I think
we will, Paddy. I think we can do that, yeah.
Yeah. So we're saying to have an
episode out on the 3rd We yeah, absolutely all.
(45:45):
Right, OK. My life is my life is all freed
up now and everything. My mornings, my evenings,
everything. Mine's really quiet too, I never
really do anything. Yeah, shut up, he says after
coming out with a penthouse. And what was the hotel?
You're around what? Was the name of the hotel the
Glass House since LIGO? Yeah, I've seen that, yeah.
(46:05):
It's only on the Internet, Obviously.
I've gone up there now, yeah. Yeah, you know, it wasn't I
Yeah, because this. You're you're up so high, it was
swaying. Is that what you said?
Not far off, like we're on the top floor.
Yeah, we're on the top floor. And there was the storm last
night. So by God, we could hear it.
It was wild. So.
But it was brilliant that we were really cozy and it was
really nice and a lovely dinner.Yeah, it was, it was fab.
(46:27):
Or it was only done up. And so we still actually, we're
in that exact room for Christmasnight last year as well, just by
coincidence. And it had just been done up
then. So it is, it's it's nice and
it's nice to see year on that. The standard is still maintained
there. So that's good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Umm, open into lookout. It's been a pleasure.
(46:48):
As always, Paddy, as always, andjust to everybody that's
listening, just be gentle, be mindful and take it easy on
yourself, yeah. Right.
Yeah, take it easy on yourself. And yeah.
Yeah, tough time of year. It is a tough time of year.
It is. It can cause a lot of anxiety
for people, you know, stress andstuff like that.
(47:10):
And as I said, just keep in mind, no matter what, one week,
even two weeks, it's not going to break the journey in the
grand scheme of things. So don't be, don't be sitting
there. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
You know the bigger picture of life is more important than one
week or two week on its own. Yeah, and we'll be checking in
anyway. We will.
(47:30):
Forget to come over to our Instagram.
Let us know what you think. Yeah.
Ask us any questions. We're always there.
Always. And by the time this goes out,
Belinda will have done her firstgym session as part of a new
thing. So go and check Belinda.
And my other new thing is I gaveup alcohol.
(47:51):
I'm seven days straight. Not that I was drinking seven
days anyway, but I just think that it was hindering my
progression. Yeah, but that's a, that's a
particularly at this time of year.
Yeah, You know, I don't know what I was thinking, Paddy.
I I joined a gym and I gave up alcohol on Christmas week.
And I thought to myself, if I can do it in this week, in this
(48:13):
moment in time, that I can do itanytime.
Amazing, amazing. I love.
That never. I've never felt so good.
Honestly. I'm jumping out of the bed.
See, by now, like the kids have been off school and, you know,
all the rushing around, getting the presents and the stress.
I definitely would have had a bottle of wine.
Yeah. But I would there's this morning
round of applause for you again.Oh thanks mate.
(48:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But sorry, you were saying you'd
woke up the next morning. Yeah, yeah, Bush in saying that
as well, especially for the women out there that are in
perimenopause and the sweat and the anxiety and the palpitations
and the waking up at 3:00 in themorning.
I do not miss that. Yeah, I don't.
Now, that's not to say I won't have a glass of red wine with my
(48:56):
Christmas dinner, but I mightn't, and I don't even feel
now that I will. But if I do, I.
Do I don't, I don't yeah. And this thing like because I
say I don't drink a huge amount,like like it doesn't really
bother me. Don't no, I don't.
But like I would easily say get a like one of the zero per
second or something like that, the cheap ones, not the durons
(49:16):
because it kills me to pay like Dorset for 0 alcohol.
And but again, my go to is like my goat is just a pint of my
body. I just love it.
Like it's just. I know I'll just, I'll just
drink and tonic water. Yeah, like ice and lemon in it.
Is that because you're some tonic yourself?
You're some dose. No, not flashing yet.
(49:39):
And all right, Belinda, it is that time for us to say adios
amigos to our friends. Christmas, everybody.
Christmas. I had tried to try to find some
Christmas music, but I just wasn't, wasn't organized enough.
So I wasn't because this was a bit of an impromptu recording
that we said we would do, but a bit.
(50:01):
Yeah. But umm, folks, have a lovely
Christmas. We will talk to the fireside as
say we are on our pages if you want to check in over the next,
you know, wee while and if you're listening to this after
Christmas. Hope you've had a good one and
all the best for 2025. Good luck everybody.
(50:22):
None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
medical care team.
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