February 1, 2025 • 50 mins
Todays episode (sorry we're late) is a pick n mix of conversation, starting with a chat about food noise, onto Belinda's recent mile stone on Social Media, and also shares a glimpse of her experience with Overeaters Anonymous. Paddy shares an update on how much Lean Body mass he has lost in the last four months from his DEXA scan and also .... Paddy finds a new bone 👀
All this plus lots of random chats and bants ! This episode is the 2nd last episode in Season 1 of The Dose.
Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.
None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice or promotion towards any specific treatment or medication - this is a sharing of a personal journey. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.
We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
It is Monday today when we're recording this,
Belinda.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank God, it's not Thursday, paddy.
Thank God, thank God, it's notThursday, paddy, thank God.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank God it's not Thursday for many reasons.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Feels a little bit like a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I feel like I've whiplash.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So many things been thrown at you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my God, Talk about juggling, it's yeah I wouldn't
even notice.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Full-time job.
Oh God, I tell you Anyway, Iwill say, though, that social
media and the podcast, andreplying to hundreds of comments
a day is slightly turning intoa full-time job.
It is it is, it is yeah, it ismental, you have to love it yeah
, it is mad.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So it is the amount of engagement that we're getting
overall.
Some of the most commonquestions.
I know you get these as wellbut, like first of all people
looking for medical advice, youneed to talk to your doctor or a
prescriber, whichever dependingon where you're listening from
and how you're accessingmedication, you need to talk to
your doctor or your prescriber.
(01:18):
Anything anything to do withyour dose, changing it, side
effects, all that we can shareour experience, experience off
what we have or have not had,but everybody's biology is
different.
Um belinda, you have just hit20 000 followers on instagram?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I did and I found out by accident.
How did you find out byaccident?
I wasn't even watching, Iwasn't even looking, I didn't
know what was going on and Ipressed into my, you know, to
have a look at my engagement andstuff yeah and I was like oh,
20,000, how long has that beenthere?
I never, I never look at myfollowing like it's not.
(02:01):
No, I don't generally yeah.
I actually never even look at myengagement because, yeah, my
little fella Jay is moreconcerned about my followers
because he thinks I'm asuperstar.
Like he doesn't even know whatI talk about, which you are.
Obviously you are.
He thinks I'm great.
Do you know?
The same way?
My cat does yes, because I feedher yeah obviously Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, that's my cat's name.
In case you didn't know that mycat's name is Beetlejuice and
you have a cushion withBeetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Beetlejuice I do.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, that's in the cat's corner yeah so the cat's
corner is where our blanket is.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is that a song, paddy ?
Cat's corner no what cat'sCat's corner?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, it's cats in the cradle.
Oh, that's a different song.
Yeah, that's different thecat's corner.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, don't, don't, no, we do not have the headspace
For new music.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I'm not at 20,000, I'm at 2,477.
Who?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
How many?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
2,477.
Who.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How many?
2,477.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On Instagram.
Yeah, what, yeah?
Now stop Give over.
Why did you think I'd more?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I thought you were up like 8, 9,000.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
On Instagram.
No, on TikTok.
Yeah, not on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Paddy, I've just seen the picture you put up of
yourself.
Look at you.
No, not that one, the onebefore it hang on the one in
some kind of skinny mill ink inyour thingy this morning?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
was it in the lift?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
yeah, yeah yeah, jesus, well done yeah thank you
people must be like stunned, tosee you in real life.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That yeah I've met some people, uh, recently that I
haven't seen in a while, andthey're just like oh my god, oh
my god, I'm like yeah, and again.
I know we spoke about this lastweek when we were talking about
body image, but definitely myhead even today and yesterday,
like looking in the mirror.
All I'm seeing is, oh, there'sstill fat there, or fat there or
(04:01):
fat there.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh, paddy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And I'm not going to say to you don't do that, don't
say that, because what's thepoint?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have tobe able to.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
But equally, I know that is part of the process and
getting the head kind of tied inwith it and stuff like that,
and I know I have lost asignificant amount of weight.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So I do know that I do, of course you're only pounds
away from a hundred pound loss,paddy.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
That's phenomenal yeah, like seven half stone,
half stone away well, I'd sayyou're probably gone over that
now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Sorry, you're closer to it now could be, don't know.
I can't remember when I weighedlast, sometime last week and
just to catch up on last week aswell, if people haven't
listened to last week's podcast.
We spoke about Paddy coming offof Monjaro so close to his
hundred pound loss yeah and justthat Paddy is going to have an
(04:53):
operation, and in two weeks time, less than two weeks time now
like Thursday week yeah.
Thursday week.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, so by the time, this podcast comes out, it'll
be a week from it.
Yeah, yeah, thursday week.
Yeah, so by the time thispodcast comes out, it'll be a
week from it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah so that's a really, really
interesting podcast as well.
Yeah, and Paddy, what do youthink?
When do you think you're goingto feel the last dose kick in?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
The last dose kick out even.
Yeah, I think I would beexpecting Thursday next week,
the day after surgery actually.
So do you know?
The surgery is probably goingto be a good distraction.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I was just going to say because you're going to be
sore and you're going to begoing into recovery and you're
going to be going home andyou're going to be taking care
of yourself anyway yeah, somaybe it will be a nice for a
few days anyway yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So we'll see how it goes.
We'll see how it goes, but yeah, but you're okay, you'll have
your routine down.
Yeah, yeah, be grand butthere's a load more context in
last week's episode, so pleasedo listen yeah but Belinda.
I was looking back over some ofmy old videos, so basically
bigger picture here okay so,like the last seven months yeah,
(06:04):
zoom out the last seven monthsobviously my journey has been
very focused on my treatment andstuff like that, as we touched
on kind of last week, the weekbefore, I guess at least myself
and you're not you're kind of ina similar space of kind of
starting to think about, okay,what might maintenance look like
for us and stuff like that.
So I'm kind of thinking like tothe future a lot more now.
(06:26):
Um, so this is also where I'mkind of thinking about the whole
kind of rebranding maybe, andstuff like this as well.
So that's kind of stuff that'son my mind at the moment.
So we'll, we'll see where thatgoes, we're going to pivot yeah,
we'll see.
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Um, I need to kind of see what makes sense for
something that's, I think,certainly for me, because
Ozempic Insights has been aroundnow for two and a half years
and I think, well, actually, bythe time it comes to two and a
half years, I'll have, touchwood, reached my goal of £103
loss.
The £3 is only so I can go upand down three pounds at any
(07:07):
given time.
Um, but yeah, I think I thinkI'll um, just move move forward
with it with that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and but yeah, I know that's, that's
one of the things, but anyway,when I was looking over the
videos, one of the things thatum, one of the videos that I
re-watched that I hadn'tre-watched in an awful long time
was about food noise, and it'sstill something that get asked a
lot about.
Um, and trying to describe andstuff like that and it's very
(07:39):
difficult to try and describe.
So I would love to know fromyou how would you describe food
noise?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
well, the first thing I'll say about food noise is I
never knew I had it.
I had never heard the term foodnoise.
I thought every single personin the world was like me and I
thought, when I was dieting andI had food noise, that that's
the way every other person felt.
So the only way I can describeit and I have described it in
(08:15):
some of my videos Over the yearsthat I've been on this was just
God.
It's really hard to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It is.
It's a difficult one to explain.
It's really hard to talk about.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So, without getting too much into it.
So the start of my day wouldhave been waking up in the
morning.
Now keep in mind that I'm inthe throes of dieting at this
stage and I am riddled withanxiety about my food choices,
about people seeing me eat,about trying to eat in private,
(08:54):
about maybe binging, abouthiding food in secret.
That's what I was doing while Iwas in a diet phase, and I was
in a diet and out of diet phasesmy whole life.
Um, so my first thing in themorning, when my eyes would open
, even before my eyes would open, I would think to myself what
can I eat this morning for mybreakfast that is not going to
(09:18):
make me a hate myself, not goingto make me make bad choices for
the rest of the day?
What am I going to eat thatdoesn't have a lot of sins in it
or points in it?
And then that's when my anxietywould start, before I even put
my socks on or put my glasses onmy anxiety around that would
(09:40):
start and I would carry thatanxiety in my stomach and in my
brain all day long.
It never fucking stopped for 30goddamn fucking years.
It didn't stop, paddy it didn'tstop, and it was only when I
injected my first injection, andtwo days later, that I thought
(10:02):
to myself what the actual fuckis going on here like I.
I even thinking back when Irealized that it was gone.
It gives me the shivers tothink of all of that, every
single bit of that stress,strain, anxiety, turmoil being
gone from just one fuckingmedication.
And I know that there aremillions of people in this world
(10:24):
out there walking around withthat in their head and in their
stomach morning, noon and night,because it affects your mental
health, it affects yourwell-being, it affects you
socially, it affects everyaspect of your life.
It really does, and that's allI have to say about that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, like for me it's very similar in terms of I
thought this was normal, likelike I thought you thought you
were the same as everybody elseyeah, it is the thing like like
I'd sit there and watch peopleeat their dinner and leave some
and I'd be like how are youleaving?
How?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
are you leaving?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
food, like how do you have that willpower?
Or like I'd be constantlysnacking throughout the day, and
other people like no, I'm fullor I'm okay and my hunger?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm a grand.
Yeah, I'm like I didn't knowwhat that meant.
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
there's food there it's yeah do you not like just
see the food essentially and getthis signal from your body that
, oh, there's chocolate, oh, goget that.
Oh, food, and I like this way Ialways describe it.
For me is it was like a 24 7radio playing in the back of my
(11:33):
head, constantly spurting out umpositive food and driving me to
food, and just constantlyhaving to give in to food.
You know like it was just mad.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And every single emotion, emotional reaction that
I would have to anything.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, it would turn me to food.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Yeah so let's try and recreateit for people.
I know we've kind of bothcovered this in different videos
, uh online as well, but so whatI want you to do, belinda, is
you're going to count to uh 15okay and I'll try and be the.
The food noise, uh, as you're,as you're doing that so, and if
(12:18):
you're listening, this genuinely, in my head at least, is what
food noise was like that.
No matter what I'm trying toconcentrate on, no matter what
conversation I was having, nomatter what was going on,
everything, absolutelyeverything, was shrouded with
(12:39):
this constant chatter about foodin my head.
Everything, every single minuteof every day.
Okay so, belinda, get you tocount to 15 in three, two, one,
go.
What's in the kitchen?
Have you got food there?
No, I need you to count outloud, belinda, oh sorry, so that
people can see.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The S-M-I-R.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, no, no, proper loud like 15, like, as in
counting.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Wait Go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
One, two, three, four , five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,fourteen.
Maybe for breakfast as well,I'll have some chocolate, that's
exactly what it sounds like.
That is yeah, we got there, wegot there.
Oh God, god, I don't fuckingmiss that patty like it's
actually it, like it's just.
I was listening as well overthe weekend.
Uh, I don't know if you had achance yet there are two of the
(13:35):
latest podcasts from oprah oprah, yeah, yeah, so I know there's
some snippets off of going kindof viral where they're talking
about and the treatments andwasn't it really?
yeah, kind of a follow-on to thetv show from uh from last year
and um, the first one is kind ofcatching up with people and
checking in and talking more,like about psychology stuff and
(13:57):
they've an endocrinologist thereand they're talking more about
the yeah, about the glp ones andthat and then the second one is
a really interesting topicabout how people treat you
different when you have lostweight.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And one of Oprah's producers is there who talks
exactly to this and, like, givessome examples of how have you
listened to the second one?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Is that what the second one's about this is?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
the second one.
The second one yeah, he's onthere and he's talking about how
, versus when he was whatever 70, 80 pounds, whatever that's
heavier than he is now versusnow, how even little things like
waiting in a queue in a hotelpeople will now, whereas before
they wouldn't, or bits andpieces like that and there is.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There is a school of thought around that as well,
paddy, where people would say toyou but if you're heavier,
aren't you more resistant tospeaking to people or to putting
yourself out there?
Or you're giving off the vibethat you don't want anyone to
talk to you.
You want to, like, go into thewall or the ground to open up
(15:04):
and swallow you.
And also, I find as well that Ihaven't lost some weight, that
I am so much more confident andthe way I stand, the way I hold
myself, the way I present myself.
There's all that as well.
But that doesn't take away fromthe fact that people equate
thinness with attractiveness andattractiveness.
(15:27):
And yeah, of course, all thatstuff, yeah and no.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
That point, though, is is really really true,
because this is something hetalks about as well in terms of
when he had, um, a heavierweight, that absolutely he would
have had more walls up aroundhim to kind of stop engagement
with people.
100 yeah, yeah, yeah,absolutely but like this idea of
food, noise like I know when Istarted my treatment and back
(15:52):
those first few.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So are you going to talk about how you knew you have
when it stopped?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
yeah, because like it was like literally the first
few days, and again it would sayeverybody will react
differently depending on whatyour treatment is and all this
kind of stuff.
But for me it was likeliterally the first few days,
and again it would say everybodywill react differently
depending on what your treatmentis and all this kind of stuff.
But for me it was within thefirst few days and I remember
just like my head was just likethere was almost like a void
(16:19):
there of like, where all thethoughts of food had been before
.
And I remember then thinking amI, is this some kind of placebo
?
Am I not thinking of foodbecause I'm intentionally not
trying to think of food?
Am I not hungry because I'mintentionally trying not to be
hungry?
Or what's going on here?
And this wrecked my head for afew days, trying to figure out
is this actually a reaction tosomething, or am I imagining
(16:41):
this in my head?
And then, as kind of week one,week two, because we didn't have
a name for it, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then the first time I heardsomebody talk about food noise,
I was like what's?
what's this food noise what?
What this radio in the back ofmy head has a name it's food
noise FM, like yeah, yeah, itjust blew my mind Mad isn't it
(17:05):
that not everybody has this thesame way, though that not
everybody has an internaldialogue.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, but I found that out as well pretty late in
life.
Everybody talks abouteverything in their head.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, and this is the most comparable thing I can
think of is that there's somepeople that don't have that
internal like narrative going onin their head or whatever, and
for me me it's like wait aminute.
You mean, there's people thatdon't have this narrative going
on in their head the whole time,or this kind of thing.
So that's that's kind of way Ican think about it as well, but
it just yeah when was the momentthat you knew it was gone or
(17:37):
that it wasn't there really?
when I was driving in my car andI had a flapjack on the car
seat beside me and one.
I could only manage a smallmouthful of it, but then,
secondly, it wasn't constantlycalling to me to eat it.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
If that makes sense.
It was like yeah, the flapjackon the passenger seat, what
about it?
Yeah, as opposed to like yeah,the flapjack on the passenger
seat, what about?
It yeah, as opposed to oh, mygod, there's a passenger seat,
there's a flapjack, there besideyou.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There's a flapjack get it, get it, get it, get it.
What's it going to taste?
like you better eat it yeah yeahhorse it into you, yeah you
know and you, I sat with thatfor a little while this morning.
I went on the Greenway for awalk and then we went into the
coach house down in KilmacThomas for coffee and I had put
one of the mini protein bars inmy jacket, because I didn't
(18:35):
really want to eat much thismorning, and I forgot it was
there.
I got back into the car andthought, oh, that's just.
How did I live my life for 30odd years?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
yeah, yeah and come to this stage you know, even
even an hour ago, I was downhaving a cup of coffee before I
come up here to do the podcastand I have a box of.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
They're like um, turkish delight thins as in like
they're kind of like aftereight, after eights.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, they're like an after eight, except they've
Turkish Delight in them, and Ilove Turkish Delight, love
Turkish Delight Even still, Ilove Turkish Delight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Very unusual for people to like that.
I think, oh my God, I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, my cousin Debbie loves it, but like the
difference is now two or threeor four, whatever those little
tins, and close the lid and putit back and put it in the
cupboard.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and I feel but people don't understand how you
can't, how we couldn't do that.
I know normies.
Don't understand that I wouldhave.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would have wanted.
I would have kept going becauseit was there and because my
body's like no, you need thefood, get the food you need.
It's there, it's in front ofyou.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Why aren't you finishing what's wrong with you,
like it's just, it's such aforeign concept yeah, and it was
a thing of keep going back toit, never actually taking the
box and sitting down with thebox, because then you would be
seen to be eating a box.
It would be putting it back inthe cupboard two minutes later,
opening the cupboard, taking twoor three more stuffing in your
face, leaving never taking outthe box.
(20:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and eating insecrecy and stuff like that as
well but anyway, food noise.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It is a fascinating topic.
It is something that, as I say,what's it comparable to?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
do you think in life other people that would suffer
from that kind of noise?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think.
Imagine something bad hashappened and you keep going over
it in your head.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And you're constantly mulling over something in your
head.
Imagine that 24-7, except aboutfood.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Or if you're someone that you know always thinks
worst case scenario or somethingor something like that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Also somebody that gambles or that's addicted to
drugs yeah or that drinksalcohol.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There is a bit in the in the podcast with oprah where
they specifically talk aboutaddictions and the kind of
effect of treatment on peoplethat have food, noise and stuff
like that and some of thesimilarities and also some of
the differences.
So again, um, highly recommendthat oprah podcast topic.
(21:13):
Yeah, it's really, reallyinteresting.
I say it's with anendocrinologist as well, so and
yeah, and she's good, she'sgreat yeah, she's like deeply,
heavily invested in obesity andobesity care and that um and
understanding um the treatmentsand stuff like that.
So definitely it's.
It's something that I I wouldencourage you to go and check
out if you haven't um anyonethat's listening.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So when I would have, when I was um, in o, o, a,
which is Overeaters Anonymous,similar to AA, and all the other
ones as well, ga, gamblersAnonymous and NA Narcotics
Anonymous.
So we would have read from thesame big book we had the whole.
(21:56):
The concept was exactly thesame thing.
The concept was exactly the samething, um, we were encouraged
to probably stay away from ourtrigger foods, and I had them
and I and I know I like I foundout very quickly what they were
yeah, um, but it was trying tostay away from them, mindfully,
(22:20):
and thinking about the damagethat they can do to you and
thinking about, um, the futureand how good a future you would
have if you didn't have thosetrigger foods in your life.
And you know, I lost weight.
I went there and I lost weightand I traveled miles to these um
groups and I had a sponsor, thesame as you would in aa, um, I
(22:43):
had all the literature, um, andit was good.
It was good.
Just in the end I just found itwasn't for me.
It got a bit deep, yeah, um,and stuff like that.
But I enjoyed it, I definitelyenjoyed it.
But they, they think along thesame lines as well.
You know, yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I think this thing like.
I did a a video the other daybecause I got.
I got a message on TikTok from aman called Thomas and I thought
it was a really interesting one, so I did a video oh yeah, it
was somewhat unpopular a fewmonths ago about should and hear
me out now before shouldeverybody who is overweight
(23:28):
automatically have a given rightto get a medication like to
help them lose that weight?
And my initial thought was well, actually, before we jump
straight to a medication, showme where there has been an
attempt for lifestyle changesand nutritional changes
beforehand.
So, and that, for me, is thedifference, and what I mean by
that is that can be thedifference between somebody that
(23:51):
has put a stone on on holidaysversus somebody that has
relapsed time and time again,and that's that's the
differentiating thing that I'mgetting at there absolutely
relapse part yeah, absolutely.
You know, if somebody has livedwith obesity and constantly had
challenges with their weight,you want them to have whatever
support it is that is needed forthem to help them improve their
(24:12):
life.
But this is what I was saying.
I I wouldn't necessarily do ablanket yes.
If somebody has excess weight,they should automatically be
given a medication, because thatmight not be the right thing
for somebody if it hasn't been achronic disease for them, you
know.
In the same way, you're notgoing to give somebody who isn't
diabetic insulin just becausetheir sugar levels are out,
(24:33):
because they've just eaten awhole box of chocolate.
Yeah, exactly, and that's thekind of thing I was trying to
say.
But anyway, the message fromTommy.
I said Thomas, tommy was lost 9stone 2020, regained 9 plus 1,
so 10 up in 2025.
Unsure about the job, so theydon't actually crave food.
(24:55):
I go until 7 or 8, until I feelsick, and then binge on the
wrong stuff.
And this is where my reply waswell, actually, do you know what
?
You maybe your first port ofcall there is, let's see about a
cancer therapist thatspecializes in disordered eating
and maybe with binge eating,and that could be the right
treatment for somebody?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
you know that if that's the problem, like there's
something oh yeah, it doesn'tnecessarily have to go straight
to medication.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
But like, and that's that's the problem.
Like there's something, oh yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to
go straight to medication, no,no, but like and that's that's
I'm saying.
Like, not everybody might have,might have food noise or the
disease of obesity, exactly,exactly just because they have
some extra weight on them yeah,and this, where it is, can help
it is so complex so complex thekind of the reasoning behind our
bodies, our weight, how wethink about it, how we think of
(25:43):
ourselves, which is a constantwork in progress.
Um, but again, that's why youengage with a qualified
professional, that's why youtalk to a doctor, or you know if
, if your doctor maybe doesn'tseem as informed as some other
ones, go to another doctor or goto someone that specializes in
this, that they can maybe offeryou some additional support.
(26:06):
You know stuff like that.
Um, yeah, that's my, that's mythought, that's all you have to
say about that patty.
I think you've said enoughactually all right, like we are
30 minutes in, so fair enough ohyeah, um so what else?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
what else had we on the list?
I lost the list.
I had all the things that wewere going to talk about I had
it all written down and the dogate.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The dog ate it the dog ate your homework, is it?
Yeah, yeah, like that's notlike you, but into to rock up
and be like I know you're likeright, so what's happening?
Yeah, you're like right, wediva.
You're like the j-lo ofpodcastinda to rock up and be
like I know.
So what's happening?
Yeah, you're like a right weediva.
You're like the J-Lo ofpodcasting.
You just rock up and are likewhat am I doing?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Expecting everyone else to do the work.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Oh, I'm aware, paddy, I'm aware, that's why I call you my boss.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So the other thing, this is like literally hot off
the press, like so hot off thepress that I have not even got
to fully assess this yet myself.
Ok, so you've not had time toprocess it Paddy I haven't, yeah
, but so earlier.
(27:16):
So back in September, end of ofSeptember, I went for a DEXA
scan.
So a DEXA scan is one of themost accurate ways to get an
idea of your body composition.
Ie.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm sure we're going to talk about something
completely different this is whywe need a running order now.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm fascinated what you thought I was going to talk
about no, no no, you are beingbold edit.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm sorry um, yeah but uh, no.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So I had my dexa scan and got the results of my uh
dexa scan today again.
So it's four months between theuh, the two scans.
Obviously in that four months Ihave been doing my strength
training so I was curious to seewhat is the difference going to
be, if any.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
In like what's the difference in your weight loss
then in those four months so thedifference in the four months
is Hang on there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Now I can tell you I've been trying to do some
quick analysis on this.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You're taking a fucking spreadsheet again,
aren't you?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Total weight loss is 16.4 kilograms.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Since four months ago .
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Exactly four months four months?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
oh right, okay.
So nobody knows what that means.
What's that meaning?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
the doctors do.
Because remember, last week wewere saying they work in so that
is equals to, uh, two stone sixpounds, roughly right, two
stone five, something like that.
Um is what that kind of equatesto.
Or if you are in old money andyou want to go pounds, you're
talking about £36.
So yeah, so about £36difference?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
in what?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
yeah, it is, yeah, substantial now.
I had no idea like yeah, I hadno idea like how long to wait or
how soon it would be too soonor stuff like that so soon it'll
be too soon or stuff like that.
Yeah, so, um, what I did waswhen I got my dexascan, and
basically I've asked uh chachipati to help me.
I've loaded in the first pdf andnow the pdf from today, and
I've also asked it to referencethe surmount uh uh one trial.
(29:34):
So that is one of the bigtrials.
So the surmount one trial isone of the main kind of clinical
trials about GLP-1 medicationsand the impact of them and and
stuff like this.
So, okay, what it basically hastold me is, um, my total weight
loss during these four monthsis comparable, but slightly
(30:00):
faster than the average pace ofthe trial.
So and that doesn't surprise me, because I know my initial
months were definitely faster,if you get me um and this is
where it would have been reallyinteresting if I had got this
done um, if I had got this doneat the start of the my, my kind
of weight loss journey, butanyway, in relation to my fat
mass reductions.
(30:21):
So, specifically, fat mass,it's saying, on par with the
trial showing that most of yourweight loss is coming from fat
excellent what it's in.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, this is what you wanted to hear, though,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
yeah, I mean I like I was kind of hoping, if I'm
honest, I was kind of hopingthat my fat sorry, my lean mass
would have been better than thetrials.
So what I mean by that is theywere saying that the trials
showed up to about maybe well.
(30:56):
Again, this where you look, butparticularly in relation to
sermon one, it says that the umabout 25 percent of weight loss
was coming from muscle, or sorry, not muscle, lean, lean mass.
So so that could be your muscle, your bones that was water
trial.
Now, yes, yeah, yeah yeah, sowithin the trials of glp1
(31:16):
medications, um, they're sayingthat out of the weight people
lost, um, that about up to 25percent of that in and around
was going to be lean mass thatwas lost.
Okay, my results are exactly inline with that okay, I'm, and
you wanted to I was hoping thatit was going to be better than
(31:38):
that okay because I am doing mystrength training um I try and
prioritize my protein coming in,so I was hoping that my lean
mass loss in those four monthswould have been lesser than like
the 25 because you were gaininglean muscle yes, that was the
(31:59):
plan, that was the, that was thethe hope that's what you were
working towards yeah, um, so,yeah, so, like to be honest,
it's it.
It kind of tells me that, yeah,my body is definitely getting
healthier, um, it's telling meparts of my body where you know
I've lost um more weight orwhere I've built more muscle and
you know stuff like that, um,but overall, what it's kind of
(32:23):
telling me is that my resultsare kind of in, in, in line with
what the clinical trial saw,and I'm, I'm, I'm a little bit
defiant.
I'm a little bit disappointedwith that because I have been
doing my strength training yeahyou know um, but look was the
(32:44):
trial?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
was the trial with people that weren't doing
strength training or something?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
oh god, the I don't I off the top of my head.
I need to look at again.
I can't remember exactly what,um, what, what exact training
they were doing, um, but yeah,so we'll see.
But I think look at again, aswe've spoken before, this is a
data point for me.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's where I go and look at it's just information,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
yeah, it's information exactly yeah, it's
information and the thing is thesame with the weight, the
scales as well like yeah, andlike, I'm very aware that the
type of training I've been doingis traditional strength
training, so it is there thatthe type of training I've been
doing is traditional strengthtraining, so it is.
There is another type oftraining, which is called
hypertrophy training, and thatis focused specifically on
trying to build muscle,essentially, All right.
(33:30):
Okay.
So what this is indicating tome is okay, do you know what I'm
going to work with my coach nowand be like let's maybe mix
this up a little bit, maybe mixthis up a little bit and let's
incorporate more of thathypertrophy, more that
specifically, muscle building,um type of training, in in in
what I'm doing are you going toinvest in another dexascan,
maybe in six months time?
(33:51):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100,yeah, 100, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah um again.
Your one regret was not notgetting it to start, yeah, yeah
yeah, I have a lot of regretsfrom when I started.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
A lot yeah like not taking all the pictures, you
know it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That's and all the measurements.
Yeah, it's one of things.
Thank god you did.
Yeah, I did, so I've got one.
Yeah, I've got one.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But there it.
There's a huge, vast difference, and I'm in my underwear taking
it and it's going to take a lotfor me to ever publish them
yeah, yeah, fair, and that'sfair.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
And look, nothing says you ever do have to yeah,
exactly, yeah it's like as muchas we do stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Obviously I will.
Yeah, totally, if they fly.
Yeah, I'm thinking calendargirls, calendar girls did you,
god, paddy?
Calendar girls did you ever seeit?
Yes, did you ever see?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, howgreat.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, calendar we'll do a Monjaro calendar yeah
, but I think that, yeah, Ithink I think basically, it's
just now up to me to be likeokay, what do I want to?
What do I want to, as I go intothis next phase, like there's
(35:06):
so many things in my head now interms of right, what do I want
to tweak and lock in even more?
So things like let's look at mynutrition again, let's look at
my training um, is there otherdata points there and that I can
kind of focus on as well?
But then also even things likehow is my sleep?
Is it?
I know my sleep is drasticallybetter than it- was, and
(35:30):
especially since I give upalcohol.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh my god yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, okay, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's good, yeah, supersuper good.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, I definitely think Sorry, starting mouth
taping tomorrow.
I'll let you know how that goes.
Like during the day.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
During the day, so that people don't have to listen
to you.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Fuck you, paddy, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'll donate to charity for that.
Sean Don, on you.
I'd like to sponsor Silencewhen we were younger.
Do you remember the sponsor ofSilence?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I nevermanaged it, and then you'd go
into your room by yourself andtalk to yourself so you could
break it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
God, I never shut up, I still don't shut up.
Yeah, anyway, sorry, what wereyou saying?
No, no, no, shut up, yeah, butanyway, sorry, what were you?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
saying no, no, but I think that's gonna be
fascinating.
I could never do that.
I'd find that too restrictiveoh, you couldn't anyway with
your wonky septum.
Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That sounds like a harry potter spell the wonky
septum what we will say, though,is definitely, definitely think
about listening to last week'spodcast.
It's on Paddy having his lastjob of Munjaro before his
operation and also going forward.
On Paddy's Instagram.
(36:48):
He will be updating everybodyon how he's getting along, and I
think next week we will have apodcast out.
Next week, paddy.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We will have a podcast next week.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, but maybe not the week after patty's taking
some paid holiday.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
The podcast, the dose but you know how to.
You know how to set up thepodcast and do it all now, could
you?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
know.
I'm using the same link yousent me two months ago.
Patty, could you, could youriver?
I type in riverside and thenclick on a link and I'm there.
That's all I know.
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Riverside is one of the platforms we use folks for
recording the podcast but onething.
What we were saying there,though, is when, if you're
starting out on a journey, or ifyou're on one, and you haven't
done already, those kind of datapoints off.
Your photos are off your, evenif just for your eyes, um.
Or your spreadsheets.
Like me, I love my spreadsheets.
(37:44):
I love my spreadsheets, I lovethem, um, but, like, I've got
all my measurements in there,I've got all my weights in there
, everything, um since day one,but it's and I'm so glad I did.
I said the only thing is I wishI got the decks out now,
obviously.
Um, a deck is quite difficultto get privately in Ireland.
I only find one or two placesthat can.
That will do it, but usuallyyou would get referred to a DEXA
(38:08):
for like checking bone healthor like a osteoporosis or stuff
like that from a doctor.
Yeah, it's usually older people,but there are there are some
places around the country thatyou can do it privately if you
pay for it.
But, and again, you don't needto.
It's just that I'm an nerd andI just love, love to know the
numbers.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You just love information.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I just love information to help keep me
informed with stuff but I thinkas well, sorry, go on what I was
going to say to you, belinda,though, like with the, you're
still, belinda, a privateindividual that doesn't
shouldn't feel under pressure tohave to put things out there
(38:49):
for other people.
You're allowed your own journeyas well for you, do you know?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, true, true, yeah, yeah, I don't think I'll
ever publish them.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's just for me to see how far I've come you know
exactly but I will say that umand I talk about this quite a
bit as well is, even if youdon't get to measure your whole
body or you can't be botheredwith the photographs, measure
your belly around, where yourbelly button is, all the way
around, because the visceral fataround your belly and around
(39:24):
your actual organs is a massive,massive health marker, because
the more visceral fat you lose,the healthier your organs are
becoming, and it's superimportant it's um, it is
particularly that, yeah, itreally is, and in the sense of
um health, you know not just
Speaker 1 (39:45):
weight or weight loss or looking better, but in the
sense of your health like Idon't know how clear this is
going to come through on thecamera for you, but basically,
um, after the dexa scan you getan image that shows you where
your kind of body mass is andbits and pieces.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You go side by sides from the first and second one I
don't know how clear it's goingthrough, oh yeah okay, wow, yeah
, that's a lot, paddy apologiesif you are somebody that is
listening to this.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You're like what are they looking at?
Wow, look at your arms.
Yeah, essentially like it'sit's color coded yeah yeah, it's
colour coded and it kind ofshows you bone, lean, fat now
you're really regretting nothaving this done from the start.
Yeah, yeah, that's a goodvisual it is, but like are you
(40:33):
going to put?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
that up on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, I'll put it in a reel, so I will and put it
together.
But like particularly like thatkind of mid section, like my
trunk kind of area.
I can notice big changes uparound my chest.
I can notice it.
I think even the fact, if youlook at, like my bones that are
(40:55):
coming through, like you can seethe bones, More of your bones
because they're not covered infat.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, like it's just, that's mad it is fascinating to
see um keep going, keep goingyeah, so it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's an interesting one to to kind of see, um.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But the other thing is have you thought have you
thought any more about your goalweight or your goal size, or no
?
No, no, no I haven't.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Um, no, I haven't.
But the other thing is I have,like when I lost weight before
the one time when I lost, Iconsidered my weight and in my
lower chest, there you have yourxiphoid bone is, I think you
call it xiphoid, xiphoid bone,which is kind of like in the
middle of your chest, at thevery bottom between your where
(41:42):
your ribs?
Yeah, kind of in the middlethere yeah, and I remember
feeling this on my chest.
I'm like, oh my god, what'swrong with me?
What is that?
What is this?
lost so much fat you didn't knowwhat I didn't know what this
thing was and I had to find out.
Oh, it's just a bone likeseriously, seriously, I'm sure
it's just a bone Like seriously,seriously.
(42:03):
I'm sure it's called xiphoid orelse I've totally just no, no,
no.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I think everyone knows what you're talking about.
Like Paddy, I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I can't hardly go on my hips when I'm in Pilates now
because I haven't got as muchfat on my hips anymore yeah, the
xiphyde process that's whatit's called is the lowest part
of your sternum, the distant endit's the pointed bottom of the
sternum that's in the center ofyour chest, where your rib cage
connects to your sternum, rightabove your uh diaphragm.
(42:29):
Now, beneath this is, shouldyou be able to feel it, it's not
unusual to feel a lump in thexiphyde process.
If a person can feel a lump, um, it usually insert has become
inflamed.
Well, it's not.
It's not it's bone like thatI'm feeling.
Forget me but, it is justfascinating that again there,
like maybe, I don't know, maybetwo months ago I was, like I can
(42:50):
feel it again.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But even being able to feel, even to be able to feel
the bottom of my ribs yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah I could feel my
hip bones there a couple ofmonths ago.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I was delighted as well.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
yeah, it's mad.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
And by the time we record next Monday for next
week's podcast, I'll have myyour head body.
No, yeah, I'm getting it donethis Friday, paddy, I'm shitting
myself, okay.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, what, okay, yeah, what.
So what are you expecting?
I I have no idea.
I haven't weighed myself since,okay, six weeks ago, since I
weighed myself at the gym and mysix weeks trial, I think, is
over.
Obviously I'm keeping going,but um I have to get the results
(43:37):
of that.
I don't know like if I didn'tlose any weight, that's fine too
.
You know, I stalled for sixmonths at one point.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
So do you do so real?
Talk do you feel you have putin the honest effort that you
would be hoping to see results?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
yes okay, okay and if I didn't, I would say you know,
I know you would, I was yeah, Iwould have said no fucking hell
.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I winged two-thirds of it yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't
yeah, yeah, that's good, Ithink I missed one gym session
how have you found the trainingsessions, because obviously
they're different to what youwere doing before I just love
them.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, I just love him .
I love it like I love it.
I put it on my stories todaysaying you know, I can't believe
how much I love it, yeah, yeahyeah, so like what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
what was your work?
What was your workout today oryesterday?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
um, I did.
What should I do?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I don't know any of the names of them that's okay,
just describe them, becausethat's more entertaining for me
screw you, paddy.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I'm not here for entertainment.
It's certainly not yours, ohgod.
No, I did a lot.
I do, I do as of.
Two weeks ago, I startedtracking my weight yeah of what
I'm lifting and stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yes, yes, yes.
I did do the dumbbell, not thebarbell yeah, yeah, the big long
one is the bar.
Yeah, that's the barbell.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, that's the barbell that's 20 kg it is, oh,
it is, yeah I did, yeah, and Idid it last week, and you had to
touch your bottom off of theball when you're doing your
squats and shut up and it hurtmy back a little bit is this
some dodgy nightclub?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
no, no, no, no no so you had a ball behind you and
you had the barbell on you andyou just sit down and stand back
up again.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, so that hurt my back
okay so we moved down.
That was 20 kg, we moved downto a 10 kg, and I stayed at 10
kg today as well.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Um so and have you ever had any like back injury
before?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I've had one operation on my back and I'm
going for another one okay, soon, so yeah, so that's why I like
this gym?
Because of the pt aspect of ityeah, yeah and he knows
everything and he's constantlywatching me and every single day
when I go in there three orfour times a week, he's
constantly watching me and everysingle day, when I go in there
three or four times a week, he'ssaying how's your back today?
Yeah, you know because I thinkhe's concerned how my previous
(46:05):
training session.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I'm so far away from the mic Previous thing he would
have went.
But yeah, it's all good, likeit's grand.
You know, I never thought I'dbe in there.
I never thought I'd be doing itafter, especially after coming
up the back of three years oncrutches and morphine, and just
in a hole yeah like, my mentalhealth was just chronic yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And and like it's so common for people that have
excess weight to back pain islike one of the most common for
for various reasons, you know,depending on where you carry
your weight, the pressure, likethe pressure on your poor back.
Yeah, you know yeah em, soyou're starting your mouth
(46:48):
taping tomorrow, tonight,tomorrow yeah, my Pilates
Pilates instructor is giving.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Oh my god, I still have to do a podcast with her,
don't I?
She's laughing at me.
Still, my Pilates instructor isgiving me some to try out
before I invest in them.
She's giving me the really goodones.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
This one has got a little tiny hole in the middle
of it, like I'm such a fuckingmouth breather I wake up in the
middle of the night, my mouth isdry, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
And I have, yeah, and I have a sleep mask now and I
love tape.
Why I don't even?
I want you to wear both ofthose in the gym when you're
doing you're like squatting downto the ball it's gonna look
like some fucking medieval show.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, and the rest shut up oh god, where's jamie
Dornan?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
yeah 50 shades of workout, yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Anyway, paddy, I have to be on my way now because I
have a lovely roast beef dinnerwaiting for me.
It's actually on the table andthe knife and fork and a glass
of lemon whatever he's afterdoing for me and loads of horse
radish sauce.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I don't like horse.
No, I don't like horse, no Idon't like, I can't even
pronounce it.
I don't like that, no.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I love it it's too peppery.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
It's too peppery.
Yes, is it roast potatoes?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
yeah, his roast potatoes.
He makes them from scratch,like I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I'd love some roast potatoes now.
I'd fucking love roast potatoes.
Well, we've been into Luck,luck.
It has been a pleasure, oh it'sbeen see you in the next
cartoon mate.
I spend.
I'm going to spend the nextlike four days editing this to
make it.
I know I'm sus sorry, that'salright, that's okay, and next
(48:36):
week we will have further chatsand bants and we can talk about
maybe check in on how.
My first, because obviously Itook my last bit of my treatment
last week, which you do me fora week, so really it's going to
be towards the end of this weekwhen I start so when we record
on Monday, you'll know yeah so Iwas wrong actually because I
(48:58):
said initially that I'd knowprobably all the day off the
treatment or the day of thesurgery.
That's wrong.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
The surgery's next week, I don't know where I'm
thinking, you'll know when,before that yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'll know then to this week how I'm kind of
feeling so and into Monday.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Then we can have a chat about it.
Yeah, and you'll be four days,oh, oh yeah.
Are we off on the bank holiday?
It's a bank holiday, me and youthe dose.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
No, me and you no, no , no, we don't get bank holidays
off?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, we don't get bank holidays off.
They won't pay us sure.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I need to get on with the WRC with that.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh well, belinda, you go andenjoy your roast dinner.
It's been a pleasure andenlightening, as as always, and
thank you for yeah well, that isdefinitely one word.
You've brought many emotions tome over the past hour.
Oh god, I need to get somemusic going for the end oh god,
(49:52):
yeah, play us out, paddy, playus out.
It's like roll it there, roisinroll it there, colette.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Wasn't that the other one?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
yeah, wasn't it Roisin beforehand?
I it there, colette, wasn'tthat the other one?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, it wasn't Roisin beforehand.
I think.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I think so, yeah, back in the day.
Okay, from myself, paddy, andfrom you and.
Belinda, belinda, adios amigos.
It is Monday today when we're recording this,
Belinda.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Thank God, it's not Thursday, paddy.
Thank God, thank God, it's notThursday, paddy, thank God.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Thank God it's not Thursday for many reasons.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Feels a little bit like a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I feel like I've whiplash.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So many things been thrown at you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh my God, Talk about juggling, it's yeah I wouldn't
even notice.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Full-time job.
Oh God, I tell you Anyway, Iwill say, though, that social
media and the podcast, andreplying to hundreds of comments
a day is slightly turning intoa full-time job.
It is it is, it is yeah, it ismental, you have to love it yeah
, it is mad.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So it is the amount of engagement that we're getting
overall.
Some of the most commonquestions.
I know you get these as wellbut, like first of all people
looking for medical advice, youneed to talk to your doctor or a
prescriber, whichever dependingon where you're listening from
and how you're accessingmedication, you need to talk to
your doctor or your prescriber.
(01:18):
Anything anything to do withyour dose, changing it, side
effects, all that we can shareour experience, experience off
what we have or have not had,but everybody's biology is
different.
Um belinda, you have just hit20 000 followers on instagram?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I did and I found out by accident.
How did you find out byaccident?
I wasn't even watching, Iwasn't even looking, I didn't
know what was going on and Ipressed into my, you know, to
have a look at my engagement andstuff yeah and I was like oh,
20,000, how long has that beenthere?
I never, I never look at myfollowing like it's not.
(02:01):
No, I don't generally yeah.
I actually never even look at myengagement because, yeah, my
little fella Jay is moreconcerned about my followers
because he thinks I'm asuperstar.
Like he doesn't even know whatI talk about, which you are.
Obviously you are.
He thinks I'm great.
Do you know?
The same way?
My cat does yes, because I feedher yeah obviously Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know, that's my cat's name.
In case you didn't know that mycat's name is Beetlejuice and
you have a cushion withBeetlejuice.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Beetlejuice I do.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, that's in the cat's corner yeah so the cat's
corner is where our blanket is.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Is that a song, paddy ?
Cat's corner no what cat'sCat's corner?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, it's cats in the cradle.
Oh, that's a different song.
Yeah, that's different thecat's corner.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, don't, don't, no, we do not have the headspace
For new music.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I'm not at 20,000, I'm at 2,477.
Who?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
How many?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
2,477.
Who.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
How many?
2,477.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
On Instagram.
Yeah, what, yeah?
Now stop Give over.
Why did you think I'd more?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I thought you were up like 8, 9,000.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
On Instagram.
No, on TikTok.
Yeah, not on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Paddy, I've just seen the picture you put up of
yourself.
Look at you.
No, not that one, the onebefore it hang on the one in
some kind of skinny mill ink inyour thingy this morning?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
was it in the lift?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
yeah, yeah yeah, jesus, well done yeah thank you
people must be like stunned, tosee you in real life.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
That yeah I've met some people, uh, recently that I
haven't seen in a while, andthey're just like oh my god, oh
my god, I'm like yeah, and again.
I know we spoke about this lastweek when we were talking about
body image, but definitely myhead even today and yesterday,
like looking in the mirror.
All I'm seeing is, oh, there'sstill fat there, or fat there or
(04:01):
fat there.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Oh, paddy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
And I'm not going to say to you don't do that, don't
say that, because what's thepoint?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have tobe able to.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
But equally, I know that is part of the process and
getting the head kind of tied inwith it and stuff like that,
and I know I have lost asignificant amount of weight.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So I do know that I do, of course you're only pounds
away from a hundred pound loss,paddy.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
That's phenomenal yeah, like seven half stone,
half stone away well, I'd sayyou're probably gone over that
now.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Sorry, you're closer to it now could be, don't know.
I can't remember when I weighedlast, sometime last week and
just to catch up on last week aswell, if people haven't
listened to last week's podcast.
We spoke about Paddy coming offof Monjaro so close to his
hundred pound loss yeah and justthat Paddy is going to have an
(04:53):
operation, and in two weeks time, less than two weeks time now
like Thursday week yeah.
Thursday week.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, so by the time, this podcast comes out, it'll
be a week from it.
Yeah, yeah, thursday week.
Yeah, so by the time thispodcast comes out, it'll be a
week from it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah so that's a really, really
interesting podcast as well.
Yeah, and Paddy, what do youthink?
When do you think you're goingto feel the last dose kick in?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
The last dose kick out even.
Yeah, I think I would beexpecting Thursday next week,
the day after surgery actually.
So do you know?
The surgery is probably goingto be a good distraction.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I was just going to say because you're going to be
sore and you're going to begoing into recovery and you're
going to be going home andyou're going to be taking care
of yourself anyway yeah, somaybe it will be a nice for a
few days anyway yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So we'll see how it goes.
We'll see how it goes, but yeah, but you're okay, you'll have
your routine down.
Yeah, yeah, be grand butthere's a load more context in
last week's episode, so pleasedo listen yeah but Belinda.
I was looking back over some ofmy old videos, so basically
bigger picture here okay so,like the last seven months yeah,
(06:04):
zoom out the last seven monthsobviously my journey has been
very focused on my treatment andstuff like that, as we touched
on kind of last week, the weekbefore, I guess at least myself
and you're not you're kind of ina similar space of kind of
starting to think about, okay,what might maintenance look like
for us and stuff like that.
So I'm kind of thinking like tothe future a lot more now.
(06:26):
Um, so this is also where I'mkind of thinking about the whole
kind of rebranding maybe, andstuff like this as well.
So that's kind of stuff that'son my mind at the moment.
So we'll, we'll see where thatgoes, we're going to pivot yeah,
we'll see.
We'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Um, I need to kind of see what makes sense for
something that's, I think,certainly for me, because
Ozempic Insights has been aroundnow for two and a half years
and I think, well, actually, bythe time it comes to two and a
half years, I'll have, touchwood, reached my goal of £103
loss.
The £3 is only so I can go upand down three pounds at any
(07:07):
given time.
Um, but yeah, I think I thinkI'll um, just move move forward
with it with that.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and but yeah, I know that's, that's
one of the things, but anyway,when I was looking over the
videos, one of the things thatum, one of the videos that I
re-watched that I hadn'tre-watched in an awful long time
was about food noise, and it'sstill something that get asked a
lot about.
Um, and trying to describe andstuff like that and it's very
(07:39):
difficult to try and describe.
So I would love to know fromyou how would you describe food
noise?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
well, the first thing I'll say about food noise is I
never knew I had it.
I had never heard the term foodnoise.
I thought every single personin the world was like me and I
thought, when I was dieting andI had food noise, that that's
the way every other person felt.
So the only way I can describeit and I have described it in
(08:15):
some of my videos Over the yearsthat I've been on this was just
God.
It's really hard to talk about.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
It is.
It's a difficult one to explain.
It's really hard to talk about.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So, without getting too much into it.
So the start of my day wouldhave been waking up in the
morning.
Now keep in mind that I'm inthe throes of dieting at this
stage and I am riddled withanxiety about my food choices,
about people seeing me eat,about trying to eat in private,
(08:54):
about maybe binging, abouthiding food in secret.
That's what I was doing while Iwas in a diet phase, and I was
in a diet and out of diet phasesmy whole life.
Um, so my first thing in themorning, when my eyes would open
, even before my eyes would open, I would think to myself what
can I eat this morning for mybreakfast that is not going to
(09:18):
make me a hate myself, not goingto make me make bad choices for
the rest of the day?
What am I going to eat thatdoesn't have a lot of sins in it
or points in it?
And then that's when my anxietywould start, before I even put
my socks on or put my glasses onmy anxiety around that would
(09:40):
start and I would carry thatanxiety in my stomach and in my
brain all day long.
It never fucking stopped for 30goddamn fucking years.
It didn't stop, paddy it didn'tstop, and it was only when I
injected my first injection, andtwo days later, that I thought
(10:02):
to myself what the actual fuckis going on here like I.
I even thinking back when Irealized that it was gone.
It gives me the shivers tothink of all of that, every
single bit of that stress,strain, anxiety, turmoil being
gone from just one fuckingmedication.
And I know that there aremillions of people in this world
(10:24):
out there walking around withthat in their head and in their
stomach morning, noon and night,because it affects your mental
health, it affects yourwell-being, it affects you
socially, it affects everyaspect of your life.
It really does, and that's allI have to say about that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, like for me it's very similar in terms of I
thought this was normal, likelike I thought you thought you
were the same as everybody elseyeah, it is the thing like like
I'd sit there and watch peopleeat their dinner and leave some
and I'd be like how are youleaving?
How?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
are you leaving?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
food, like how do you have that willpower?
Or like I'd be constantlysnacking throughout the day, and
other people like no, I'm fullor I'm okay and my hunger?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm a grand.
Yeah, I'm like I didn't knowwhat that meant.
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
there's food there it's yeah do you not like just
see the food essentially and getthis signal from your body that
, oh, there's chocolate, oh, goget that.
Oh, food, and I like this way Ialways describe it.
For me is it was like a 24 7radio playing in the back of my
(11:33):
head, constantly spurting out umpositive food and driving me to
food, and just constantlyhaving to give in to food.
You know like it was just mad.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And every single emotion, emotional reaction that
I would have to anything.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, it would turn me to food.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Yeah.
Yeah so let's try and recreateit for people.
I know we've kind of bothcovered this in different videos
, uh online as well, but so whatI want you to do, belinda, is
you're going to count to uh 15okay and I'll try and be the.
The food noise, uh, as you're,as you're doing that so, and if
(12:18):
you're listening, this genuinely, in my head at least, is what
food noise was like that.
No matter what I'm trying toconcentrate on, no matter what
conversation I was having, nomatter what was going on,
everything, absolutelyeverything, was shrouded with
(12:39):
this constant chatter about foodin my head.
Everything, every single minuteof every day.
Okay so, belinda, get you tocount to 15 in three, two, one,
go.
What's in the kitchen?
Have you got food there?
No, I need you to count outloud, belinda, oh sorry, so that
people can see.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
The S-M-I-R.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
No, no, no, proper loud like 15, like, as in
counting.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Wait Go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
One, two, three, four , five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,fourteen.
Maybe for breakfast as well,I'll have some chocolate, that's
exactly what it sounds like.
That is yeah, we got there, wegot there.
Oh God, god, I don't fuckingmiss that patty like it's
actually it, like it's just.
I was listening as well overthe weekend.
Uh, I don't know if you had achance yet there are two of the
(13:35):
latest podcasts from oprah oprah, yeah, yeah, so I know there's
some snippets off of going kindof viral where they're talking
about and the treatments andwasn't it really?
yeah, kind of a follow-on to thetv show from uh from last year
and um, the first one is kind ofcatching up with people and
checking in and talking more,like about psychology stuff and
(13:57):
they've an endocrinologist thereand they're talking more about
the yeah, about the glp ones andthat and then the second one is
a really interesting topicabout how people treat you
different when you have lostweight.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And one of Oprah's producers is there who talks
exactly to this and, like, givessome examples of how have you
listened to the second one?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Is that what the second one's about this is?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
the second one.
The second one yeah, he's onthere and he's talking about how
, versus when he was whatever 70, 80 pounds, whatever that's
heavier than he is now versusnow, how even little things like
waiting in a queue in a hotelpeople will now, whereas before
they wouldn't, or bits andpieces like that and there is.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There is a school of thought around that as well,
paddy, where people would say toyou but if you're heavier,
aren't you more resistant tospeaking to people or to putting
yourself out there?
Or you're giving off the vibethat you don't want anyone to
talk to you.
You want to, like, go into thewall or the ground to open up
(15:04):
and swallow you.
And also, I find as well that Ihaven't lost some weight, that
I am so much more confident andthe way I stand, the way I hold
myself, the way I present myself.
There's all that as well.
But that doesn't take away fromthe fact that people equate
thinness with attractiveness andattractiveness.
(15:27):
And yeah, of course, all thatstuff, yeah and no.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
That point, though, is is really really true,
because this is something hetalks about as well in terms of
when he had, um, a heavierweight, that absolutely he would
have had more walls up aroundhim to kind of stop engagement
with people.
100 yeah, yeah, yeah,absolutely but like this idea of
food, noise like I know when Istarted my treatment and back
(15:52):
those first few.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So are you going to talk about how you knew you have
when it stopped?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
yeah, because like it was like literally the first
few days, and again it would sayeverybody will react
differently depending on whatyour treatment is and all this
kind of stuff.
But for me it was likeliterally the first few days,
and again it would say everybodywill react differently
depending on what your treatmentis and all this kind of stuff.
But for me it was within thefirst few days and I remember
just like my head was just likethere was almost like a void
(16:19):
there of like, where all thethoughts of food had been before
.
And I remember then thinking amI, is this some kind of placebo
?
Am I not thinking of foodbecause I'm intentionally not
trying to think of food?
Am I not hungry because I'mintentionally trying not to be
hungry?
Or what's going on here?
And this wrecked my head for afew days, trying to figure out
is this actually a reaction tosomething, or am I imagining
(16:41):
this in my head?
And then, as kind of week one,week two, because we didn't have
a name for it, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then the first time I heardsomebody talk about food noise,
I was like what's?
what's this food noise what?
What this radio in the back ofmy head has a name it's food
noise FM, like yeah, yeah, itjust blew my mind Mad isn't it
(17:05):
that not everybody has this thesame way, though that not
everybody has an internaldialogue.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, but I found that out as well pretty late in
life.
Everybody talks abouteverything in their head.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, and this is the most comparable thing I can
think of is that there's somepeople that don't have that
internal like narrative going onin their head or whatever, and
for me me it's like wait aminute.
You mean, there's people thatdon't have this narrative going
on in their head the whole time,or this kind of thing.
So that's that's kind of way Ican think about it as well, but
it just yeah when was the momentthat you knew it was gone or
(17:37):
that it wasn't there really?
when I was driving in my car andI had a flapjack on the car
seat beside me and one.
I could only manage a smallmouthful of it, but then,
secondly, it wasn't constantlycalling to me to eat it.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
If that makes sense.
It was like yeah, the flapjackon the passenger seat, what
about it?
Yeah, as opposed to like yeah,the flapjack on the passenger
seat, what about?
It yeah, as opposed to oh, mygod, there's a passenger seat,
there's a flapjack, there besideyou.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
There's a flapjack get it, get it, get it, get it.
What's it going to taste?
like you better eat it yeah yeahhorse it into you, yeah you
know and you, I sat with thatfor a little while this morning.
I went on the Greenway for awalk and then we went into the
coach house down in KilmacThomas for coffee and I had put
one of the mini protein bars inmy jacket, because I didn't
(18:35):
really want to eat much thismorning, and I forgot it was
there.
I got back into the car andthought, oh, that's just.
How did I live my life for 30odd years?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
yeah, yeah and come to this stage you know, even
even an hour ago, I was downhaving a cup of coffee before I
come up here to do the podcastand I have a box of.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
They're like um, turkish delight thins as in like
they're kind of like aftereight, after eights.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, they're like an after eight, except they've
Turkish Delight in them, and Ilove Turkish Delight, love
Turkish Delight Even still, Ilove Turkish Delight.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Very unusual for people to like that.
I think, oh my God, I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, my cousin Debbie loves it, but like the
difference is now two or threeor four, whatever those little
tins, and close the lid and putit back and put it in the
cupboard.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, and I feel but people don't understand how you
can't, how we couldn't do that.
I know normies.
Don't understand that I wouldhave.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would have wanted.
I would have kept going becauseit was there and because my
body's like no, you need thefood, get the food you need.
It's there, it's in front ofyou.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Why aren't you finishing what's wrong with you,
like it's just, it's such aforeign concept yeah, and it was
a thing of keep going back toit, never actually taking the
box and sitting down with thebox, because then you would be
seen to be eating a box.
It would be putting it back inthe cupboard two minutes later,
opening the cupboard, taking twoor three more stuffing in your
face, leaving never taking outthe box.
(20:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and eating insecrecy and stuff like that as
well but anyway, food noise.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It is a fascinating topic.
It is something that, as I say,what's it comparable to?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
do you think in life other people that would suffer
from that kind of noise?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think.
Imagine something bad hashappened and you keep going over
it in your head.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
And you're constantly mulling over something in your
head.
Imagine that 24-7, except aboutfood.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Or if you're someone that you know always thinks
worst case scenario or somethingor something like that.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Also somebody that gambles or that's addicted to
drugs yeah or that drinksalcohol.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
There is a bit in the in the podcast with oprah where
they specifically talk aboutaddictions and the kind of
effect of treatment on peoplethat have food, noise and stuff
like that and some of thesimilarities and also some of
the differences.
So again, um, highly recommendthat oprah podcast topic.
(21:13):
Yeah, it's really, reallyinteresting.
I say it's with anendocrinologist as well, so and
yeah, and she's good, she'sgreat yeah, she's like deeply,
heavily invested in obesity andobesity care and that um and
understanding um the treatmentsand stuff like that.
So definitely it's.
It's something that I I wouldencourage you to go and check
out if you haven't um anyonethat's listening.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So when I would have, when I was um, in o, o, a,
which is Overeaters Anonymous,similar to AA, and all the other
ones as well, ga, gamblersAnonymous and NA Narcotics
Anonymous.
So we would have read from thesame big book we had the whole.
(21:56):
The concept was exactly thesame thing.
The concept was exactly the samething, um, we were encouraged
to probably stay away from ourtrigger foods, and I had them
and I and I know I like I foundout very quickly what they were
yeah, um, but it was trying tostay away from them, mindfully,
(22:20):
and thinking about the damagethat they can do to you and
thinking about, um, the futureand how good a future you would
have if you didn't have thosetrigger foods in your life.
And you know, I lost weight.
I went there and I lost weightand I traveled miles to these um
groups and I had a sponsor, thesame as you would in aa, um, I
(22:43):
had all the literature, um, andit was good.
It was good.
Just in the end I just found itwasn't for me.
It got a bit deep, yeah, um,and stuff like that.
But I enjoyed it, I definitelyenjoyed it.
But they, they think along thesame lines as well.
You know, yeah, yeah it's.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I think this thing like.
I did a a video the other daybecause I got.
I got a message on TikTok from aman called Thomas and I thought
it was a really interesting one, so I did a video oh yeah, it
was somewhat unpopular a fewmonths ago about should and hear
me out now before shouldeverybody who is overweight
(23:28):
automatically have a given rightto get a medication like to
help them lose that weight?
And my initial thought was well, actually, before we jump
straight to a medication, showme where there has been an
attempt for lifestyle changesand nutritional changes
beforehand.
So, and that, for me, is thedifference, and what I mean by
that is that can be thedifference between somebody that
(23:51):
has put a stone on on holidaysversus somebody that has
relapsed time and time again,and that's that's the
differentiating thing that I'mgetting at there absolutely
relapse part yeah, absolutely.
You know, if somebody has livedwith obesity and constantly had
challenges with their weight,you want them to have whatever
support it is that is needed forthem to help them improve their
(24:12):
life.
But this is what I was saying.
I I wouldn't necessarily do ablanket yes.
If somebody has excess weight,they should automatically be
given a medication, because thatmight not be the right thing
for somebody if it hasn't been achronic disease for them, you
know.
In the same way, you're notgoing to give somebody who isn't
diabetic insulin just becausetheir sugar levels are out,
(24:33):
because they've just eaten awhole box of chocolate.
Yeah, exactly, and that's thekind of thing I was trying to
say.
But anyway, the message fromTommy.
I said Thomas, tommy was lost 9stone 2020, regained 9 plus 1,
so 10 up in 2025.
Unsure about the job, so theydon't actually crave food.
(24:55):
I go until 7 or 8, until I feelsick, and then binge on the
wrong stuff.
And this is where my reply waswell, actually, do you know what
?
You maybe your first port ofcall there is, let's see about a
cancer therapist thatspecializes in disordered eating
and maybe with binge eating,and that could be the right
treatment for somebody?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
you know that if that's the problem, like there's
something oh yeah, it doesn'tnecessarily have to go straight
to medication.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
But like, and that's that's the problem.
Like there's something, oh yeah, it doesn't necessarily have to
go straight to medication, no,no, but like and that's that's
I'm saying.
Like, not everybody might have,might have food noise or the
disease of obesity, exactly,exactly just because they have
some extra weight on them yeah,and this, where it is, can help
it is so complex so complex thekind of the reasoning behind our
bodies, our weight, how wethink about it, how we think of
(25:43):
ourselves, which is a constantwork in progress.
Um, but again, that's why youengage with a qualified
professional, that's why youtalk to a doctor, or you know if
, if your doctor maybe doesn'tseem as informed as some other
ones, go to another doctor or goto someone that specializes in
this, that they can maybe offeryou some additional support.
(26:06):
You know stuff like that.
Um, yeah, that's my, that's mythought, that's all you have to
say about that patty.
I think you've said enoughactually all right, like we are
30 minutes in, so fair enough ohyeah, um so what else?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
what else had we on the list?
I lost the list.
I had all the things that wewere going to talk about I had
it all written down and the dogate.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The dog ate it the dog ate your homework, is it?
Yeah, yeah, like that's notlike you, but into to rock up
and be like I know you're likeright, so what's happening?
Yeah, you're like right, wediva.
You're like the j-lo ofpodcastinda to rock up and be
like I know.
So what's happening?
Yeah, you're like a right weediva.
You're like the J-Lo ofpodcasting.
You just rock up and are likewhat am I doing?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Expecting everyone else to do the work.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Oh, I'm aware, paddy, I'm aware, that's why I call you my boss.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So the other thing, this is like literally hot off
the press, like so hot off thepress that I have not even got
to fully assess this yet myself.
Ok, so you've not had time toprocess it Paddy I haven't, yeah
, but so earlier.
(27:16):
So back in September, end of ofSeptember, I went for a DEXA
scan.
So a DEXA scan is one of themost accurate ways to get an
idea of your body composition.
Ie.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I'm sure we're going to talk about something
completely different this is whywe need a running order now.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm fascinated what you thought I was going to talk
about no, no no, you are beingbold edit.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm sorry um, yeah but uh, no.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
So I had my dexa scan and got the results of my uh
dexa scan today again.
So it's four months between theuh, the two scans.
Obviously in that four months Ihave been doing my strength
training so I was curious to seewhat is the difference going to
be, if any.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
In like what's the difference in your weight loss
then in those four months so thedifference in the four months
is Hang on there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Now I can tell you I've been trying to do some
quick analysis on this.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You're taking a fucking spreadsheet again,
aren't you?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Total weight loss is 16.4 kilograms.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Since four months ago .
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Exactly four months four months?
Speaker 2 (28:43):
oh right, okay.
So nobody knows what that means.
What's that meaning?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
the doctors do.
Because remember, last week wewere saying they work in so that
is equals to, uh, two stone sixpounds, roughly right, two
stone five, something like that.
Um is what that kind of equatesto.
Or if you are in old money andyou want to go pounds, you're
talking about £36.
So yeah, so about £36difference?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
in what?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
yeah, it is, yeah, substantial now.
I had no idea like yeah, I hadno idea like how long to wait or
how soon it would be too soonor stuff like that so soon it'll
be too soon or stuff like that.
Yeah, so, um, what I did waswhen I got my dexascan, and
basically I've asked uh chachipati to help me.
I've loaded in the first pdf andnow the pdf from today, and
I've also asked it to referencethe surmount uh uh one trial.
(29:34):
So that is one of the bigtrials.
So the surmount one trial isone of the main kind of clinical
trials about GLP-1 medicationsand the impact of them and and
stuff like this.
So, okay, what it basically hastold me is, um, my total weight
loss during these four monthsis comparable, but slightly
(30:00):
faster than the average pace ofthe trial.
So and that doesn't surprise me, because I know my initial
months were definitely faster,if you get me um and this is
where it would have been reallyinteresting if I had got this
done um, if I had got this doneat the start of the my, my kind
of weight loss journey, butanyway, in relation to my fat
mass reductions.
(30:21):
So, specifically, fat mass,it's saying, on par with the
trial showing that most of yourweight loss is coming from fat
excellent what it's in.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, this is what you wanted to hear, though,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
yeah, I mean I like I was kind of hoping, if I'm
honest, I was kind of hopingthat my fat sorry, my lean mass
would have been better than thetrials.
So what I mean by that is theywere saying that the trials
showed up to about maybe well.
(30:56):
Again, this where you look, butparticularly in relation to
sermon one, it says that the umabout 25 percent of weight loss
was coming from muscle, or sorry, not muscle, lean, lean mass.
So so that could be your muscle, your bones that was water
trial.
Now, yes, yeah, yeah yeah, sowithin the trials of glp1
(31:16):
medications, um, they're sayingthat out of the weight people
lost, um, that about up to 25percent of that in and around
was going to be lean mass thatwas lost.
Okay, my results are exactly inline with that okay, I'm, and
you wanted to I was hoping thatit was going to be better than
(31:38):
that okay because I am doing mystrength training um I try and
prioritize my protein coming in,so I was hoping that my lean
mass loss in those four monthswould have been lesser than like
the 25 because you were gaininglean muscle yes, that was the
(31:59):
plan, that was the, that was thethe hope that's what you were
working towards yeah, um, so,yeah, so, like to be honest,
it's it.
It kind of tells me that, yeah,my body is definitely getting
healthier, um, it's telling meparts of my body where you know
I've lost um more weight orwhere I've built more muscle and
you know stuff like that, um,but overall, what it's kind of
(32:23):
telling me is that my resultsare kind of in, in, in line with
what the clinical trial saw,and I'm, I'm, I'm a little bit
defiant.
I'm a little bit disappointedwith that because I have been
doing my strength training yeahyou know um, but look was the
(32:44):
trial?
Speaker 2 (32:44):
was the trial with people that weren't doing
strength training or something?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
oh god, the I don't I off the top of my head.
I need to look at again.
I can't remember exactly what,um, what, what exact training
they were doing, um, but yeah,so we'll see.
But I think look at again, aswe've spoken before, this is a
data point for me.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's where I go and look at it's just information,
isn't it?
Speaker 1 (33:10):
yeah, it's information exactly yeah, it's
information and the thing is thesame with the weight, the
scales as well like yeah, andlike, I'm very aware that the
type of training I've been doingis traditional strength
training, so it is there thatthe type of training I've been
doing is traditional strengthtraining, so it is.
There is another type oftraining, which is called
hypertrophy training, and thatis focused specifically on
trying to build muscle,essentially, All right.
(33:30):
Okay.
So what this is indicating tome is okay, do you know what I'm
going to work with my coach nowand be like let's maybe mix
this up a little bit, maybe mixthis up a little bit and let's
incorporate more of thathypertrophy, more that
specifically, muscle building,um type of training, in in in
what I'm doing are you going toinvest in another dexascan,
maybe in six months time?
(33:51):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100,yeah, 100, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah um again.
Your one regret was not notgetting it to start, yeah, yeah
yeah, I have a lot of regretsfrom when I started.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
A lot yeah like not taking all the pictures, you
know it.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
That's and all the measurements.
Yeah, it's one of things.
Thank god you did.
Yeah, I did, so I've got one.
Yeah, I've got one.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
But there it.
There's a huge, vast difference, and I'm in my underwear taking
it and it's going to take a lotfor me to ever publish them
yeah, yeah, fair, and that'sfair.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
And look, nothing says you ever do have to yeah,
exactly, yeah it's like as muchas we do stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Obviously I will.
Yeah, totally, if they fly.
Yeah, I'm thinking calendargirls, calendar girls did you,
god, paddy?
Calendar girls did you ever seeit?
Yes, did you ever see?
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, howgreat.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, yeah, calendar we'll do a Monjaro calendar yeah
, but I think that, yeah, Ithink I think basically, it's
just now up to me to be likeokay, what do I want to?
What do I want to, as I go intothis next phase, like there's
(35:06):
so many things in my head now interms of right, what do I want
to tweak and lock in even more?
So things like let's look at mynutrition again, let's look at
my training um, is there otherdata points there and that I can
kind of focus on as well?
But then also even things likehow is my sleep?
Is it?
I know my sleep is drasticallybetter than it- was, and
(35:30):
especially since I give upalcohol.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh my god yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, okay, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's good, yeah, supersuper good.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, I definitely think Sorry, starting mouth
taping tomorrow.
I'll let you know how that goes.
Like during the day.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
During the day, so that people don't have to listen
to you.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Fuck you, paddy, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'll donate to charity for that.
Sean Don, on you.
I'd like to sponsor Silencewhen we were younger.
Do you remember the sponsor ofSilence?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I nevermanaged it, and then you'd go
into your room by yourself andtalk to yourself so you could
break it.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
God, I never shut up, I still don't shut up.
Yeah, anyway, sorry, what wereyou saying?
No, no, no, shut up, yeah, butanyway, sorry, what were you?
Speaker 1 (36:20):
saying no, no, but I think that's gonna be
fascinating.
I could never do that.
I'd find that too restrictiveoh, you couldn't anyway with
your wonky septum.
Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
That sounds like a harry potter spell the wonky
septum what we will say, though,is definitely, definitely think
about listening to last week'spodcast.
It's on Paddy having his lastjob of Munjaro before his
operation and also going forward.
On Paddy's Instagram.
(36:48):
He will be updating everybodyon how he's getting along, and I
think next week we will have apodcast out.
Next week, paddy.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We will have a podcast next week.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, but maybe not the week after patty's taking
some paid holiday.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
The podcast, the dose but you know how to.
You know how to set up thepodcast and do it all now, could
you?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
know.
I'm using the same link yousent me two months ago.
Patty, could you, could youriver?
I type in riverside and thenclick on a link and I'm there.
That's all I know.
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Riverside is one of the platforms we use folks for
recording the podcast but onething.
What we were saying there,though, is when, if you're
starting out on a journey, or ifyou're on one, and you haven't
done already, those kind of datapoints off.
Your photos are off your, evenif just for your eyes, um.
Or your spreadsheets.
Like me, I love my spreadsheets.
(37:44):
I love my spreadsheets, I lovethem, um, but, like, I've got
all my measurements in there,I've got all my weights in there
, everything, um since day one,but it's and I'm so glad I did.
I said the only thing is I wishI got the decks out now,
obviously.
Um, a deck is quite difficultto get privately in Ireland.
I only find one or two placesthat can.
That will do it, but usuallyyou would get referred to a DEXA
(38:08):
for like checking bone healthor like a osteoporosis or stuff
like that from a doctor.
Yeah, it's usually older people,but there are there are some
places around the country thatyou can do it privately if you
pay for it.
But, and again, you don't needto.
It's just that I'm an nerd andI just love, love to know the
numbers.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You just love information.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, I just love information to help keep me
informed with stuff but I thinkas well, sorry, go on what I was
going to say to you, belinda,though, like with the, you're
still, belinda, a privateindividual that doesn't
shouldn't feel under pressure tohave to put things out there
(38:49):
for other people.
You're allowed your own journeyas well for you, do you know?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yeah, true, true, yeah, yeah, I don't think I'll
ever publish them.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's just for me to see how far I've come you know
exactly but I will say that umand I talk about this quite a
bit as well is, even if youdon't get to measure your whole
body or you can't be botheredwith the photographs, measure
your belly around, where yourbelly button is, all the way
around, because the visceral fataround your belly and around
(39:24):
your actual organs is a massive,massive health marker, because
the more visceral fat you lose,the healthier your organs are
becoming, and it's superimportant it's um, it is
particularly that, yeah, itreally is, and in the sense of
um health, you know not just
Speaker 1 (39:45):
weight or weight loss or looking better, but in the
sense of your health like Idon't know how clear this is
going to come through on thecamera for you, but basically,
um, after the dexa scan you getan image that shows you where
your kind of body mass is andbits and pieces.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
You go side by sides from the first and second one I
don't know how clear it's goingthrough, oh yeah okay, wow, yeah
, that's a lot, paddy apologiesif you are somebody that is
listening to this.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
You're like what are they looking at?
Wow, look at your arms.
Yeah, essentially like it'sit's color coded yeah yeah, it's
colour coded and it kind ofshows you bone, lean, fat now
you're really regretting nothaving this done from the start.
Yeah, yeah, that's a goodvisual it is, but like are you
(40:33):
going to put?
Speaker 2 (40:33):
that up on Instagram?
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, I'll put it in a reel, so I will and put it
together.
But like particularly like thatkind of mid section, like my
trunk kind of area.
I can notice big changes uparound my chest.
I can notice it.
I think even the fact, if youlook at, like my bones that are
(40:55):
coming through, like you can seethe bones, More of your bones
because they're not covered infat.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, like it's just, that's mad it is fascinating to
see um keep going, keep goingyeah, so it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's an interesting one to to kind of see, um.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But the other thing is have you thought have you
thought any more about your goalweight or your goal size, or no
?
No, no, no I haven't.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Um, no, I haven't.
But the other thing is I have,like when I lost weight before
the one time when I lost, Iconsidered my weight and in my
lower chest, there you have yourxiphoid bone is, I think you
call it xiphoid, xiphoid bone,which is kind of like in the
middle of your chest, at thevery bottom between your where
(41:42):
your ribs?
Yeah, kind of in the middlethere yeah, and I remember
feeling this on my chest.
I'm like, oh my god, what'swrong with me?
What is that?
What is this?
lost so much fat you didn't knowwhat I didn't know what this
thing was and I had to find out.
Oh, it's just a bone likeseriously, seriously, I'm sure
it's just a bone Like seriously,seriously.
(42:03):
I'm sure it's called xiphoid orelse I've totally just no, no,
no.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
I think everyone knows what you're talking about.
Like Paddy, I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I can't hardly go on my hips when I'm in Pilates now
because I haven't got as muchfat on my hips anymore yeah, the
xiphyde process that's whatit's called is the lowest part
of your sternum, the distant endit's the pointed bottom of the
sternum that's in the center ofyour chest, where your rib cage
connects to your sternum, rightabove your uh diaphragm.
(42:29):
Now, beneath this is, shouldyou be able to feel it, it's not
unusual to feel a lump in thexiphyde process.
If a person can feel a lump, um, it usually insert has become
inflamed.
Well, it's not.
It's not it's bone like thatI'm feeling.
Forget me but, it is justfascinating that again there,
like maybe, I don't know, maybetwo months ago I was, like I can
(42:50):
feel it again.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
I can feel it.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
But even being able to feel, even to be able to feel
the bottom of my ribs yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah I could feel my
hip bones there a couple ofmonths ago.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
I was delighted as well.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
yeah, it's mad.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
And by the time we record next Monday for next
week's podcast, I'll have myyour head body.
No, yeah, I'm getting it donethis Friday, paddy, I'm shitting
myself, okay.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, what, okay, yeah, what.
So what are you expecting?
I I have no idea.
I haven't weighed myself since,okay, six weeks ago, since I
weighed myself at the gym and mysix weeks trial, I think, is
over.
Obviously I'm keeping going,but um I have to get the results
(43:37):
of that.
I don't know like if I didn'tlose any weight, that's fine too
.
You know, I stalled for sixmonths at one point.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
So do you do so real?
Talk do you feel you have putin the honest effort that you
would be hoping to see results?
Speaker 2 (43:59):
yes okay, okay and if I didn't, I would say you know,
I know you would, I was yeah, Iwould have said no fucking hell
.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I winged two-thirds of it yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't
yeah, yeah, that's good, Ithink I missed one gym session
how have you found the trainingsessions, because obviously
they're different to what youwere doing before I just love
them.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, I just love him .
I love it like I love it.
I put it on my stories todaysaying you know, I can't believe
how much I love it, yeah, yeahyeah, so like what?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
what was your work?
What was your workout today oryesterday?
Speaker 2 (44:32):
um, I did.
What should I do?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I don't know any of the names of them that's okay,
just describe them, becausethat's more entertaining for me
screw you, paddy.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I'm not here for entertainment.
It's certainly not yours, ohgod.
No, I did a lot.
I do, I do as of.
Two weeks ago, I startedtracking my weight yeah of what
I'm lifting and stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yes, yes, yes.
I did do the dumbbell, not thebarbell yeah, yeah, the big long
one is the bar.
Yeah, that's the barbell.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, that's the barbell that's 20 kg it is, oh,
it is, yeah I did, yeah, and Idid it last week, and you had to
touch your bottom off of theball when you're doing your
squats and shut up and it hurtmy back a little bit is this
some dodgy nightclub?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
no, no, no, no no so you had a ball behind you and
you had the barbell on you andyou just sit down and stand back
up again.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, so that hurt my back
okay so we moved down.
That was 20 kg, we moved downto a 10 kg, and I stayed at 10
kg today as well.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Um so and have you ever had any like back injury
before?
Speaker 2 (45:43):
I've had one operation on my back and I'm
going for another one okay, soon, so yeah, so that's why I like
this gym?
Because of the pt aspect of ityeah, yeah and he knows
everything and he's constantlywatching me and every single day
when I go in there three orfour times a week, he's
constantly watching me and everysingle day, when I go in there
three or four times a week, he'ssaying how's your back today?
Yeah, you know because I thinkhe's concerned how my previous
(46:05):
training session.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
I'm so far away from the mic Previous thing he would
have went.
But yeah, it's all good, likeit's grand.
You know, I never thought I'dbe in there.
I never thought I'd be doing itafter, especially after coming
up the back of three years oncrutches and morphine, and just
in a hole yeah like, my mentalhealth was just chronic yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
And and like it's so common for people that have
excess weight to back pain islike one of the most common for
for various reasons, you know,depending on where you carry
your weight, the pressure, likethe pressure on your poor back.
Yeah, you know yeah em, soyou're starting your mouth
(46:48):
taping tomorrow, tonight,tomorrow yeah, my Pilates
Pilates instructor is giving.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Oh my god, I still have to do a podcast with her,
don't I?
She's laughing at me.
Still, my Pilates instructor isgiving me some to try out
before I invest in them.
She's giving me the really goodones.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
This one has got a little tiny hole in the middle
of it, like I'm such a fuckingmouth breather I wake up in the
middle of the night, my mouth isdry, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
And I have, yeah, and I have a sleep mask now and I
love tape.
Why I don't even?
I want you to wear both ofthose in the gym when you're
doing you're like squatting downto the ball it's gonna look
like some fucking medieval show.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Yeah, and the rest shut up oh god, where's jamie
Dornan?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
yeah 50 shades of workout, yeah, oh god.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Anyway, paddy, I have to be on my way now because I
have a lovely roast beef dinnerwaiting for me.
It's actually on the table andthe knife and fork and a glass
of lemon whatever he's afterdoing for me and loads of horse
radish sauce.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
I don't like horse.
No, I don't like horse, no Idon't like, I can't even
pronounce it.
I don't like that, no.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I love it it's too peppery.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
It's too peppery.
Yes, is it roast potatoes?
Speaker 2 (48:09):
yeah, his roast potatoes.
He makes them from scratch,like I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
I'd love some roast potatoes now.
I'd fucking love roast potatoes.
Well, we've been into Luck,luck.
It has been a pleasure, oh it'sbeen see you in the next
cartoon mate.
I spend.
I'm going to spend the nextlike four days editing this to
make it.
I know I'm sus sorry, that'salright, that's okay, and next
(48:36):
week we will have further chatsand bants and we can talk about
maybe check in on how.
My first, because obviously Itook my last bit of my treatment
last week, which you do me fora week, so really it's going to
be towards the end of this weekwhen I start so when we record
on Monday, you'll know yeah so Iwas wrong actually because I
(48:58):
said initially that I'd knowprobably all the day off the
treatment or the day of thesurgery.
That's wrong.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
The surgery's next week, I don't know where I'm
thinking, you'll know when,before that yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'll know then to this week how I'm kind of
feeling so and into Monday.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Then we can have a chat about it.
Yeah, and you'll be four days,oh, oh yeah.
Are we off on the bank holiday?
It's a bank holiday, me and youthe dose.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
No, me and you no, no , no, we don't get bank holidays
off?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, we don't get bank holidays off.
They won't pay us sure.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
I need to get on with the WRC with that.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh well, belinda, you go andenjoy your roast dinner.
It's been a pleasure andenlightening, as as always, and
thank you for yeah well, that isdefinitely one word.
You've brought many emotions tome over the past hour.
Oh god, I need to get somemusic going for the end oh god,
(49:52):
yeah, play us out, paddy, playus out.
It's like roll it there, roisinroll it there, colette.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Wasn't that the other one?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
yeah, wasn't it Roisin beforehand?
I it there, colette, wasn'tthat the other one?
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, it wasn't Roisin beforehand.
I think.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
I think so, yeah, back in the day.
Okay, from myself, paddy, andfrom you and.
Belinda, belinda, adios amigos.
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In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com