It's time to spill some tea....... [S2E4]

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(00:00):
None of this conversation shouldbe taken as medical advice for
you. Before starting or changing any
medical or Wellness treatment, always consult your GP and
medical care team. And it is that time of the week
where myself and Belinda battledthrough the traffic.
We get to the studio. Manifesting.

(00:22):
Manifesting. God Almighty, we get.
Time will come, Paddy. Yeah, we get to the studio, we
have our production crew outsidethat are there with our tea and
our coffee when we arrive and the fancy biscuits and all we
want. Skinny, flat, white.
Skinny flat. Oh yeah, skinny flat white.
Is that your order? Skinny, flat, white.
Oh, skinny, flat, white, half a brown sugar in the coffee before
the milk goes in. OK.

(00:45):
Yeah, because it kind of caramelizes the coffee and the
brown sugar. I do use, I'm I'm happy to hear
that you've got standards and that you do use the brown sugar
because I use brown sugar too. Yeah, I'm a I'm a coffee snob.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paddy.
Just like really bad and I'm not.
And I and I don't like, I'm proud of it.
Just a coffee snob. Yeah, I can only afford to be a

(01:07):
coffee snob. Yeah, McDonald's fucking coffee.
You're right, actually. Actually.
Yeah, McDonald's coffee is really decent.
Yeah, everybody says so. I don't think they do skinny
though, you just get what you get from them.
They don't do skinny. Yeah, but their coffee is good.
I do. I do like their coffees should.
Be trying to be trying to save calories like.

(01:27):
Yeah, I know, I know. Not that I have.
Sometimes you're not my desk. Yeah, could you please, Because
you're making noise. Yes, as.
Wow. Yeah, You know, I don't like
noise. Rude.
Oh God, where are we? I have just come back from
holidays. Paddy is about to go on
holidays. Yeah, we have some things to

(01:50):
talk about. Ourselves, yeah, we like there's
a few different milestones, milestones and personal pieces
and and stuff. So right where we start, So
Belinda. Yes.
Why was I going to ask earlier? No, wait a minute.
Before the coffee. Before the coffee.
So you go for a skinny latte. That's usually my thing as well.

(02:10):
No, no, no, no, no, no. Skinny, flat, white, too big.
It's got too much milk. It makes me not a lot does, but
that does. How do you?
Where's your T-shirt? I do have clothes on for people

(02:30):
that are listening. I do have a T-shirt on.
I don't have to dose on though. I'm sorry.
Are we not, are we not putting this up for video?
No. I would say if I remember, I'll
put it on YouTube, yeah. Yeah, throw it up on YouTube.
Yeah, if there's not a lot of editing needed and go on you,
that's usually what determines. That means that Paddy's telling
me to behave. Myself, yeah.
So the better behaved you are, the easier it is for me to put a

(02:52):
video. Because when Belinda's bold and
she says things that she shouldn't, I've been an edit
laws every second week intentionally.
Yeah, I've edited then, and thattakes me hours.
Do you know what? The next time we meet up, I'm
going to sit and feck and edit apodcast.
You can see how much work was init.
Wait, why are you touching your microphone now?
Why are you touching your microphone?
I'm just putting an elastic no. You don't Wow, sorry listeners,

(03:16):
sorry. I'll just and she's touching it
again. I don't like.
Did you Skittles today? No.
God, you sure was brown sugar you put in, not white sugar in
your. No.
Do you know what I had today? What?
I ate my brunch and it was my usual high fibre high protein
thingy but because my dose has changed I don't think I'm going

(03:39):
to be able to eat anything now. OK.
So let's get into it. So first of all, you mentioned
your dose there or you're a doseanyway.
So you're on 50 milligram now, is that right?
Just started 50 milligram on Tuesday.
OK. So when did you first move to

(04:01):
Majora? I that's a really good question,
Jamie Mack. Was it like August?
September. No August time.
No, Was it? I can't remember.
Asked me this beforehand. No, I'll find these are I'll
find out. Does your friend Max not know?

(04:21):
No, he should know, so I'm paying him.
For Yeah, exactly. Belinda has a personal but no
she's a personal Butler called Max and she just uses and abuses
him and he just takes it £20 a month. 2230.
Yeah, yeah, He just. Will anyone figure out what who
he is? Max GPT.

(04:43):
Yeah, Max GPT. Max GPT so 15 milligram How long
you on it? Yeah, how long am I on?
15 No 15 milligram. Oh, since Tuesday.
I didn't realize this was week 1of ever 15.
OK. I don't know if they'll be Week
2 though. I might have to go back down
again. OK, why is it?

(05:04):
Are you finding it just too difficult or because of side
effects? Umm, I have no hunger.
At all 0. Hunger at all?
At all. And so today is only day three,
but that might come, as we know,like tomorrow, the next, the
next. So you could start feeling
hungry. Yeah, I know, I know.
I'm just going to see how it goes.

(05:24):
But the sulfur burps, the eggy burps are they just won't stop.
They just will not stop. We spoke.
You've never had those before, have you?
Not no, not to this. Like I've had an odd 1 here and
there but this just will not. Give us one there.
Yeah, no, I can't. They're not.
They don't even make noise. It's like, it's like a reflux

(05:49):
reflux. There's probably a weird
websites that can go on where people would like buy your
birthday jar or go stop. No, not contain that.
Yeah, because I've never had those.
Never. You know I.
Never on it. No, never, never.
Umm, I'm back on 15 milligrams as well.
Umm yeah, so contact. Have you been on that though?

(06:11):
So before I had to stop, I thinkI was on it for, I don't know, I
was on it six weeks, 8 weeks maybe.
I was definitely on it before Christmas, definitely was
because I remember thinking would I make the end of the year
on 12.5 and I didn't, I, I had to move up before then.
So and then I was on it for the month of January and then I come
off it from a surgery and then Iwas here tighter and back up.

(06:33):
So so I started back on 15 last week.
Was it? Yeah, I think so.
So yeah, But again, found out. Yeah, I found out when I was
started. Yeah, Monjaro, it was the 2nd of
July, so July, August, September, October, November,
December, January, February, March.
We're going into April, so 10 months.

(06:55):
Wow. Wow.
Yeah. Wow, I didn't realize that was
that long. How long should it have taken
me? Well, no it's not because again,
bear in mind you didn't start in2.5.
I know. So context here folks is
majority of people you will start in 2.5 at Manjaro.
However, in some instances in consultation with your doctor,

(07:16):
depending on your history of GLPones, they may guide you on say
oh you start on five or something like that.
But cannot stress enough that has to be in with the guidance
of your doctor. It's not just a thing you
randomly decide to do, but the quickest somebody would get to
15 milligram, the quickest they would get there from starting
will be 6 months. That's the quickest that

(07:37):
somebody could get there. So tell.
You how much weight I've lost inthose ten months.
So, and this is this is going tofeed into somewhat we're going
to talk about later, but yeah, yeah, OK.
So because you had been on a stall, we've a whole, we've a
podcast with this before, so we won't get into the stall again
too much. But yeah, you had been on a
stall for quite a period of timeand I.

(07:58):
Was left on Ozempic too long, yeah.
And. I wasn't offered Manjaro, yeah.
And then you had a chat with your doctor about Manjaro and
you moved. To Manjaro, Paddy, that's not
what happened. I became friends with you and
you said to me, oh, I'm with so and so and I'm on Monjaro.

(08:19):
And I was there like, well, why aren't I on Monjaro?
I've been, I've been struggling and stalled for I think it could
have been six to seven months out of my whole journey.
Yeah. And when was I at that weight?
Look at me. Look at me.
Look at me. OK, but you approach the subject

(08:41):
with your doctor then about changing EH from example to
Manjaro Brenda's Kenton. Eight months.
Eight months, you'd stalled, OK.And then, but you did approach,
you brought up the subject all about changing then to Manjaro.
Yeah, yeah. OK.
And they said fine, that's no problem.
Yeah, so in that time then, eh, haven't previously been on a

(09:03):
stall. What have you lost since then,
or how have things been? I have lost. 2.
And a half stone. Oh my God.
In 10 months, yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize it after
the stall. Yeah, since I started Monjaro to
visit Stone. I didn't realize that it was
that much. Yeah.

(09:24):
Oh my God. I.
Lost. Umm, I'd lost just 4 stone on
the Ozempic. Wow, OK.
And then I stalled for all of that time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's where I am a little
bit annoyed, a little bit sad, alittle bit like I that time was
stolen from me because I even, you've heard me say this before,
that I, I should be so much further along in my journey, but

(09:47):
I also have to calm down and just, it is a journey and that
is my journey and I can't do anything to change it.
So unfortunately, yeah. Yeah.
And a big part of the other change that you implemented
during that period of time as well, which is really important
to call out is the gym side of things.
Because you, you changed up yourworkouts and we spoke about this

(10:07):
and everything. But that's, I think that's a
really important part as well that we know when we're talking
about it's, we're not going to give the full credit to Monjaro
or even to Ozempic. It's the other effort you're
putting in, you know? Yeah, and I do Paddy.
I work bloody hard and I'm always going to give myself
credit for that because I spent most of my life working this
hard but not having any fruit from it, you know, so.

(10:30):
And it wasn't until the the field was levelled that I was
able to go and do what I wanted to do and live the life that I
wanted to live. So what is your total weight
loss now? Or do you want to?
Umm, no, No 6, just approaching 6 1/2.
Yeah, OK. Yeah.

(10:51):
Yeah, So I want, umm, 100 lbs. I want to get to my 100 lbs.
I've got another five. I've got 5 KG.
No. So.
I've got about four KG to go. Yeah, so 100 lbs would be, eh. 7
stone. 27 Stone. Five, OK, yeah.
So yeah, it would be about 5 KG then.

(11:11):
OK, isn't it exciting when you start thinking?
I know like. But look at you.
So like someone asked me on my on my question box on Instagram,
eh there about like milestones and what's your milestones and
what they. And to this point, I haven't
really had milestones I've been working towards.
And again, because I I'm not somebody that's a huge fan and
this is going to sound a bit random maybe for people, but I'm

(11:33):
not a huge fan of setting weightrelated goals because there's
only so much you can do with your body and your body will
respond in a certain way. And I think that if you're
setting yourself up on weight based goals, you can be setting
yourself up for failure and disappointment and stuff like
that. So I've never really focused on
goals around weight bar one thing I have spoken about like
for years building that before me and you even met like years

(11:55):
and years and years and years ofpeople look back on my like my
videos from years ago. I talk so many times on
different attempts of losing 100lbs, losing 100 lbs.
I have done issues with like magazines and paper and all this
kind of stuff and the radio all about trying to lose 100 lbs
over the years. And that that is I guess my
first goal. It's it's a massive goal and

(12:16):
that's why maybe I've just kind of focused on it.
So that's the first goal. And then the second goal that I
kind of have is the velvet jacket that I want to fit back
into. So there for me are the two kind
of main goals for me to achieve.Yeah, but like for you as well,
like you're, you're like, you'rewithin touching distance.
Off, off, off. Like, but no, no more than you

(12:39):
are. Paddy.
What Tell tell us your story. What are you at?
So yesterday now I put up the post today on the ping but it
was actually. I didn't see it yet.
Yeah, umm, yesterday. I hate 7 lbs.
Seven pounds? Yeah, if it's 7 lbs in a year.
No, I hit 7 stone loss since last year.

(13:03):
In how many months? Well, now bear in mind like I
started my journey kind of the end of May, so like and then I'd
a break here nearly. So it'll be a year in.
I've about another four or five weeks and then it'll be a year
kind of thing. But obviously like I had a
surgery where I stopped and other written piece.

(13:24):
So like there has been some starting and starting and stuff
like that. But yeah, so I I didn't give you
this update this morning. Oh, you don't.
You did it, didn't you? You fucking did.
It No, no, no, no, no, no. We'll, the last update I think
I'll give you is that I'm about 2 lbs away from 100.
Pounds. Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't

(13:47):
today, though. That was yesterday.
Yeah, yeah, you lost that. 2 lbsdidn't.
You no. Oh fuck.
OK no. 3 lbs no. We will talk about at the start
of the next podcast. You're not going to tell us.
No, people are going to have listened to the start of the
next podcast, which will be out next week, which is going to be

(14:07):
a really interesting one anyway.But luckily, yeah.
Well done us. Well done us.
Well done us. Come on, Paddy, that's lousy.
Why? Tell us.
You can wait till the next podcast, you can wait a week the
update. I'll TuneIn then.
I'll talk to it. I'll listen.
It's a Hulk. I love it.

(14:29):
How was your holidays? How was things?
How did you find your holidays? How did I find my holidays?
I found them good. I did a little video.
Well it's not a little videos 8 1/2 minutes long on my YouTube
channel. It's like one of your WhatsApp.
Let's just GLP one insights on YouTube.
I always put a link in my stories for them though.

(14:50):
It was wild being able to walk through a buffet of an all you
can eat all inclusive holiday and not have so much anxiety
about foods and have all of those awful self loathing
thoughts. You know, I was such a

(15:11):
comparison this time around to the last time I was in Turkey.
Yeah. So like, is it that there was
you felt food didn't have a holdover on you as you walked
through it? Or that there wasn't guilt maybe
if you enjoyed it or what? Well, I've had that.
I've had that since I started this journey anyway.
But I just to contrast, umm, I don't know whether I can explain

(15:36):
this properly and whether you'd obviously, I think you might
understand, but you know the torture in your brain that you
would have when you go into a supermarket and you're hungry
and you're trying to do the shopping and you're not on a GL
P1. And all of those mental thoughts
that you would have because you're actually looking at those
foods and you're thinking about the guilt and you're thinking

(15:57):
about the shame and you're thinking about bingeing and
you're thinking about overeatingand the calories and the hatred
you'll have for yourself once you do it.
MMM imagine just walking into a room and being with all of those
foods still and having none of those thoughts.
Like I will never understand howthis medication does that to our

(16:20):
brains. But I think the other thing as
well that's important to give you credit for as well.
Yes, you know the medication is is part of it.
Is that Larry gone by if you went to open?
No, I it's not open. Shut up.
Actually, it was a tractor. The two the two Johnnies driving
by. We need to get on that podcast.

(16:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not sure where there.
I'm not sure where there is. I know what I was going to say.
Now I've forgotten what you weresaying and fucking.
Credit. Oh yes, credit the other, the
other thing I was going to say is, yeah, obviously the
medication has helped. But the other thing I think that
you don't give yourself enough credit for at times though, is
it's not just that, it's also the the awareness that you have

(17:03):
through your work, particularly say with Nikki and that you've
worked on with yourself as well.I think that has helped with
that journey as well, you know? I don't think I would have ever
been able to do that without themedication.
Yeah, but I think the medicationisn't going to give you the
awareness. It's giving you the mental
space, all right. But I think you've utilized that
mental space to understand yourself and to understand the

(17:25):
reactions and the triggers to food and stuff like that as well
a little bit more. So you're a little bit more so
that you're able to verbalize it.
Yeah, but I wouldn't be able to do any of it.
I like, I'm not talking about going to the gym and all the
rest, but I'm just talking aboutthe mental impact that the
medication has on the food. Noise and that.
The food noise. But it's not even food noise.

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Food noise is a very specific thing, isn't it?
Like you call it a radio in the back.
Of your head. Yeah, My food noise would have
been just constant putting myself down and self hatred.
Yeah, that's what mine would have sounded like.
Yeah. And to not have that anymore
because of that drug, I don't think I would have been able.

(18:09):
Even if I had been with my health coach for three years and
I had been going to the gym and all the rest of it, that would
still have been. There, I get you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would have still had
that torture. And that's where there is the
medical side to what the treatment does.
Yeah, I can't wait. I'm heading on holidays as say
this weekend on Saturday. It is a oh, I'm happy birthday,

(18:31):
Belinda plated happy birthday. Happy birthday to I I should
have got happy birthday. Oh damn, I'm a bad.
That's all right. Don't worry about it.
Happy. Birthday to you.
I'll do my best. Please stop.
I'll strip. Happy birthday.
You didn't bother as. Long as we want to put you off
your. Food I was 49 years of age on

(18:54):
one of the days this week. I remind you on the day it was
Monday. Yeah.
Yeah, I've forgotten. Yeah, you had.
And I remind you like first. We were travelling, it was,
yeah. I have my birthday this Saturday
and I'm going to be 43. Yeah, Yep, yeah, 43.
Got to be 43. I don't have to count.
I'm going to be 43 and then nextWednesday I have my second

(19:19):
wedding, wedding anniversary as well.
So yeah, so we're going away on holidays on Saturday.
And this is going to be my firstproper holiday since I started
on the medication as well. And since this whole journey,
like I've been away for weekendsand I've had Stefan, but in
terms of a week away, no work, no nothing, just being in the
moment like in the sun, this is.Yeah.

(19:42):
So like, I can't, I can't, I can't wait like.
Yeah, I know. Yeah, I don't blame you.
We had shit weather. Oh.
Where you going again? New York, I've never been
before. Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
So we had said we're going to talk about social media and also
then things we would do differently potentially when we

(20:05):
were starting out. So there's some difference when
you mute your mic there. In terms of the background,
social media, right, it is a wild place.
Now. We are very, very fortunate that

(20:26):
a lot of the people that follow us, the majority of the people
that follow us are amazing and are so supportive and.
And so friendly. So friendly and encouraging and
nice and that is the majority ofthe people that we get
engagement from and we're hugelyappreciative of that.
And same with the podcast, like the feedback and the emails and
stuff that we get from the podcast.

(20:46):
We even had an e-mail from, I think it was a Chris there over
the past week that I shared during on holidays as well.
So Chris, if you're listening, Iactually shit, I don't think I
replied to that. Sorry Chris, but like.
And it was so lovely. Yeah, you have access to the
e-mail too. What e-mail?
Yeah, exactly. Hello at the door.
Sorry, is it ieor.com? Anyway, it is dot IE.

(21:10):
But yeah, for the most part, thepeople that that kind of follow
us online, we have amazing kind of interaction and and support
with them. But there's also a bit of a wild
side to social media. The first thing, and like we
both say this like a lot, is that we, I, I don't know if

(21:30):
people understand or or or realise the volume of queries we
get from people looking for whatis medical advice about their
journey. Like it is wild the amount of
questions that we get on a dailybasis.
Like real specific medical questions.
Yes, real specific like with this is my.

(21:52):
Condition, yeah, but the worry is that these people are turning
to social media for their their,umm, queries.
Instead of asking their doctor, they're asking randoms like I
know nothing. The only thing I know about is
my own journey and that's all I can share.

(22:12):
And that's why we always say like at the start of every
podcast, at the end of every podcast.
And like, you know, we put up onour page as well.
We're not medical advisors, not that we say should be medical
advice for for you, and nor should we be the people that you
come to for medical advice. Now, I can understand, I
absolutely can understand when you see somebody that has a
journey that you're like, oh, they might be able to give me an

(22:32):
answer for this. But you, as I always say to
people, you have to remember this is a medication, not a
diet. And as such, the best person for
you to lean in on is your doctoror your prescriber.
Now, when I was talking about this to somebody recently, they
did raise a fairpoint. They're like, yeah, but if I
want to go to my doctor, I have to pay them like an extra £4050

(22:55):
or whatever amount it is for a doctor's appointment to ask.
Yeah. So like, that is 1 factor.
And I can understand why people would seek out alternative maybe
ways to get answers, but it still comes down to they're
still the document medical, they're still the person that
needs to give you the advice. And especially if you are sick
on this medication as well, you know.
Yeah, like, I remember when I started out first, I was on

(23:19):
Ozempic at the time still. And this lady messaged me and
I've missed, I've mentioned thisa few times, actually.
And she said that herself and her husband had gotten Ozempic
and they both had taken their dose.
And then they ended up in hospital the next day.
Yeah, they had gotten it online and taken 1 milligram as their
first first dose. They both when ended up in

(23:40):
hospital. Yeah, because they didn't know
what they were doing. Yeah, umm, like I'm not, I'm not
going to go through all the specific queries, but I'm even
just looking at this week, like I'd say I have over the past two
or three days, I'd say I have maybe 1520 queries here that are
predominately you're. Looking at which which umm thing
you're looking at? Eh, I'm looking at TikTok and
Instagram. Umm in the DMS here.

(24:01):
Umm, so like in relation to likecalorie needs, I thought I'd be
losing more weight to side effects to what door should I
start on to? And like, these are things that
you're, in terms of the food side of things, a registered
dietitian. I like, yes, I have studied like

(24:23):
nutrition, I have my qualification like that covers
me for nutrition, for, for general nutrition and I feel
very comfortable talking about my own nutrition and stuff like
that. But in terms of when somebody's
on a medication or has particularly where there's other
medical considerations, your go to really needs to be a
registered dietitian as opposed to somebody on social media, you
know, and. Looking looking at TikTok.

(24:45):
Yeah, it's the worst. And like, there's some great
companies out there that will let you book in with dietitians
or some dietitians that work in a, you know, in their own right
and stuff like that as well. But a dietitian is one of the
only people that is actually qualified to give you bespoke
nutritional advice based on yourexact situation.

(25:07):
Like a nutritionist isn't. And This is why, and I've said
this before, like sometimes personal trainers or
nutritionists will hate me everytime I say this because I'm not
saying that they're not knowledgeable, but they're not
you. They will not be insured to give
bespoke nutritional advice in Ireland anyway.
Bespoke nutritional advice to somebody that has medical

(25:28):
considerations. A registered.
Dietary people can do that. Registered Dietitian A
registered dietitian you know. What's the difference between a
nutritionist and a dietitian, Patty?
A registered dietitian, you haveto go and spend multiple years
studying to become a registered dietitian.
Understanding the medical complexities in a lot more
detail and also it's a regulatedthing.

(25:49):
So like you have to have certainqualifications to be able to
call yourself a registered dietitian and to get registered
with the various bodies for that.
A nutritionist. Absolutely anyone can go online
and just call themselves a nutritionist.
It's not in any way regulated. You do not need a particular
qualification. You don't.
Anyone can just call themselves a nutritionist is in no way

(26:12):
regulated or in no way any kind of standards or anything like
that held in Ireland. How did you become a
nutritionist then? I college so when I so usually
when you go back to study as a personal trainer, you will have
to study nutrition as part of that as well.
So that's where and and as part of that you you do study
nutrition protocols and various approaches to things.

(26:34):
But for example, you shouldn't be giving somebody an exact
right here's your diet plan for the week your.
Plan. Yeah, yeah, absolutely should
not. Again, a registered dietitian is
the person that should be doing that and a particularly not
somebody random online is not who should be going to and you.
And again, in terms of the registered dietitian, keep in
mind the likes of say Irish Life, if you've planned with

(26:55):
them, they do free as part of your plan and virtual registered
dietitian appointments. So they do.
Oh, your insurance company? I don't.
Know about the others but Irish life too and a lot of them will
cover a good chunk of the cost of making appointments for a
registered dietitian like in person or or other way.
So that's why it's it's, it's just a fantastic way just to

(27:17):
lean in and. So I think for anybody listening
then they really should check tosee what their insurance, umm,
would they? Have said yeah, yeah, yeah, I
would because again, when you'relooking at that, some insurance
companies will cover some thingslike say gym memberships or some
personal training sessions or some bits and pieces like that
as well. So that's why it can be really,

(27:38):
really great actually to to really look at your policy like
an old Irish life when I'm on it, it'll have like add on
little things about like sports and stuff like that.
So it can be really great to really look at your policy
because there could be way more there that you could be tapping
into that you, you mightn't evenrealize.
Umm, but yes, in terms of the, the, the kind of social media
side things, some of the other wild stuff that we get is umm,

(28:02):
blinda's gone rogue. She's gone off for me for some
reason. Umm, the abuse side of things.
So I had somebody, umm, who it was clearly a fake count.
Even this week, Umm, who was kind of Oh yes, who was like
throwing shade at me and like I was back.

(28:22):
I'm like, hey, you've no picture.
Your name is I'm 90%. It was funny.
It's fake. You're not following anybody but
me and you have no followers. And like they tried to come back
with a justification, justification with zero sense
and did not add up. Like I'm on social media at all.
No, I didn't like it was complete.
Lies come backwards. But like, I do have our

(28:44):
suspicions though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like the abuse that we get sometimes, like you have been
called quite a few times that you're a criminal.
Yes, I like to throw them up. When I get them, I like to share
them. You're a criminal for sharing
your journey online. Yeah, yeah.
And also we have also been accused of umm working far Nov

(29:06):
Nordisk. And that was quite a big one.
Stuff like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That we're pushing. We're pushing these.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like I, I if.
Only my God, if only Paddy. Like the ideal solution is that
somebody is able to combat a disease without medication, just
through lifestyle intervention. That'll be amazing.
That'll be the right reason for everybody.
Phenomenal, but for some people,like in many diseases, a

(29:28):
medication can help them on their journey, you know, but
that's that's obviously a conversation again, for you and
your doctor to see like what is your lifestyle past been?
What attempts have you made all that kind of stuff to kind of
suss that stuff out? But it's just wild some of the
stuff. But again, have you had any
other wild bits of abuse or stuff like that from people or?
I had a couple of voice notes recently from somebody saying

(29:54):
that I was missing the point of it all, that I should really
just live my life the way I am, come off the medication, just
relax into being a fat fuck. And her words.
Yeah, yeah. And when I explained to her all
the reasons that I needed to be healthy and fish, and I was

(30:17):
doing it for longevity for the kids that are coming through our
home and yeah. No, yeah.
Missed. You missed the whole point.
I get a good few from personal trainers because yes, yeah,
yeah, yeah. And particularly when the RT
stuff was on and some of that publicity stuff that we were
doing like for shows and interviews and bits and pieces.

(30:37):
I, I got it quite a bit from some personal trainers.
They're disgusted that somebody that is a qualified personal
trainer wouldn't ever anyway be sharing a journey that is
supported medically and that I wouldn't just lean on the eat
less, move more. That that's all people.
Yeah, yeah. Umm.
The ignorance of people the. Absolute ignorance.

(30:58):
And again, it's just like, I like to go back and I'm just
like, I feel so sorry for your clients if this is your the way.
How judgmental. How judgmental.
And you're clearly not keeping your knowledge up to date as
well of things. Yeah.
And that's the. Word.
They probably haven't. You see, that's worrying.
And that's the thing like, again, no more than
nutritionist, keep in mind somebody potentially could go

(31:18):
and do like a couple of day course and call themselves
personal trainer because unfortunately it's not regulated
in Ireland either. It should be, but it it's not
regulated. So this is where like there's a
big difference between, you know, personal trainers and kind
of figuring out who's the right one for you and just because
somebody. But you you know the difference
between somebody who's into it and who has knowledge and who

(31:41):
you know. Like the guys in my gym like
error strength training and groups are 8 people and it's
almost like having a personal personal trainer, personal
trainer doing it. Like when I, yeah, when I lift,
done my lift today, like my trainer was all over it.
Yeah, absolutely all over it. You know what I mean?
So you know, you know that you're getting your moneys

(32:03):
worth. Another tell to tell for me is
you'll sometimes see these really, and again, I don't knock
them because I love how passionate they are and kind of
their energy. But this is where I think
experience and just maturity andstuff.
Like sometimes you'll see say somebody that's just out of
their course, that's usually they'll be on the younger side
and like, hey, we all have the same 24 hours.

(32:24):
It's excuses for you not and it's like, really?
You go tell a mother of four kids that is also kind.
Of that she has the same. Amount that she is exactly,
exactly that's somebody that's like yeah, you know what I mean
like I say a 20 year old that isworking for themselves doing
like say 10-15 hours a week in agym like there's yeah exactly 24

(32:46):
hours or is not created equal soit's not you know yeah, but it's
yeah. And the other thing as well, I
think with social media is like we do try and call out a
scaremongering as much as we can.
Like we had a conversation aboutthat today even.
There is so much scaremongering around these medications.

(33:09):
But there's so much scaremongering done on things
like the side effects on the worst case scenario and all this
kind of stuff. And now don't get us wrong,
people will have side effects. Some people will have side
effects, absolutely. Some people will have no side
effects, Some people will have mild and then there will be a
cohort that it's just not compatible for them.
But there are some accounts thatjust latch on to that cohort

(33:29):
just trying to scaremonger as opposed to a balanced kind of
approach of view. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah. And you know, like when they say
that there's no long term, are there, there is no kind of
research into the long term effects of this in medical
terms, long, long term is generations is like 30-40 years.

(33:52):
That's that's what they look at when they talk about the long
term effects or how it's going to affect us in 40 years time.
That's what they look at. They don't look at like the past
ten years or whatever. But I'm highly reckoning in 40
years time I'd be 6 foot under like so.
We're OK now though while we're alive, aren't we?
Yeah, exactly. Right.
Yeah, plus again for me. Alternative.

(34:14):
Well, the alternative. But this is what it comes back
to for me when I was starting out on this journey was weighing
up, OK, there is risks as with any kind of new approach and
treatment or whatever, there is risks with potential risks with
this. There's going to be potential
side effects. I don't know how it's going to
go for me. However, looking at the
certainty of remaining morbidly obese would ABMI of 46 or

(34:37):
whatever it was nearly for me. And I know BMI is flawed or
blah, blah. I know that.
But just to in, in, yeah, to, togive it some context, there were
certainties there, as I say, particularly in relation to my
life expectancy. So it's, it's, it's kind of
trying to make an educated call on which of these roads and
which of these journeys seems tobe, will reduce the risk for me

(34:58):
and give me the better chance oflife and a better quality of
life, you know? Quality of life.
Exactly. And better health.
Yeah, because you have to ask yourself then what's the
alternative? Yeah.
The other thing with social media that I have started doing
a lot of is like muting accounts, non following accounts
whereby they are just putting out either not even the scare

(35:18):
monger, but just wreck the head stuff.
I put something up today wherebysome of the accounts are fun.
Like it's definitely one of my ex.
I don't like the word. I used it today.
So like literally where you'd see, again, usually it's going
to be like some of the younger, maybe type, maybe not actually
just younger, but but there is acohort of people that will
create content and it's kind of like, are you struggling to lose

(35:40):
weight? You just need to get off your
fat arse. Don't be so fucking lazy.
You can do this. Just get to the fucking gym.
And they think that they're being like really serious and
really motivational. It's like, no, you're coming
across as aggressive. Like you're coming across from
like the Tate school off motivation.
It's like, no, Oh my God, no, this is not how humans speak to

(36:01):
each other, you know, Maybe if it's you and the lads in the pub
and that's how you have banter. But that's not your clientele.
No, the majority of. The people you're trying to
reach. Oh, my God, It gets me back up
so much. Yeah, Really, really does.
Really, really does. Yeah.
And that's. The generation that's coming
behind us, isn't it, you know? I don't.
I know. I don't know.
We sound so old. We do anyway we could.

(36:23):
We could talk a lot about socialmedia, but I guess what advice
would you give to people in general around social media and
your experiences and what kind of help?
Support you. That's a good question,
actually, Paddy, because that kind of stems from the reason
that I set up my subscription group was because I wanted a

(36:44):
safe space for people to land where they didn't have to listen
to the bullshit on social media that they would come to my
subscription page and they didn't have to hear all the
noise and all the scaremongeringand stuff like that.
But I really do feel that you can get sucked in to all of that

(37:06):
and it does wreck your head. I mean, all the girls in my
group always say, you know, there's so much information out
there and I was getting so confused and my sulfur burps are
killing me. But yeah, the noise, the noise,
the noise on social media, the umm, overlapping, umm, yeah.

(37:28):
Advice that people are giving like 1 reel will say one thing.
Another reel is say the completeopposite to what the PRI
previous reel has just said. Yeah.
And it's just too hard. So I think find a page that
aligns with your values, find a page, an account that aligns
with your values and your journey and where you're at and

(37:48):
try and take what you need and just leave the rest.
That's really important as well.And just be mindful.
Do not go to TikTok for your medical advice, no.
Please but follow us on TikTok. Obviously, yes, TikTok, yeah.
And please follow me on my YouTube channel.
How do you don't edit that out? I've never asked anyone to

(38:10):
follow me in my life. Damn YouTube is hard.
Do I follow? Do I follow on YouTube?
Probably not I already I wasn't following the dose.
I wasn't following the dose tillthe other day.
Oh, God, But come here. Yeah.
I think in relation to advice, mine will be very similar.
I think people that you follow on social media should be people

(38:31):
that make you feel good about yourself, and that's the best
way. If you were looking at an
account that is there, putting stuff up that is not making you
feel good and making you feel motivated about your journey,
unfollow that person. Even if they're a friend,
whatever. Maybe mute them if they're a
friend, you don't fall out. But like, unfollow people that

(38:51):
are not making you feel good about yourself and making you
feel supported on your journey because it's not worth it.
It's hard enough as it is, nevermind to be in your own head is
hard enough never mind to be listening to Egypt's on social
media. Belinda, what gives you the ick?
You. Fucking rude, all right?
No, no, no, no, do not. If that's the case, Oh my God.

(39:13):
I know I haven't. I haven't I.
Haven't. No, we're done.
If that's the case, we're just going out.
It's fine. Paddy, you've known that for a
month. Can I just do it?
Can I just do it? Hi, guys.
I do. I do.
Hi, folks. Hey folks.
No, it's different, very different to hi guys, come with

(39:34):
me. OK, watch me.
OK, OK. Notice, Yeah.
Pick me. Yeah, I just saying I I hate
people. You don't do that.
You don't you do not do. Hi, guys.
No, Hey, folks, I do. Hey folks, I do.
Hey folks though. Yeah, I do.
Hey folks, that's. Very, very different, yeah.
Because I was trying to be a bitmore inclusive with the folks.
But anyway, some of the things that people said on Instagram

(39:55):
today, what gives them the ick? Somebody said brown shoes.
Oh God. Dumped Fitness are good content
creators cooking without a top on.
Oh yeah. Honestly, what accounts are
those? Can you can.
You can, you just. Can you just?

(40:17):
Only it's our mail, obviously. Research.
Fitness people sending me private messages asking what are
my current fitness goals. You get a lot of that on
Twitter. I don't really use Twitter much,
but you get a lot of that on Twitter.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Someone says fake tan. The smell of it.
Do you use fake tan? No, maybe once a year, all

(40:41):
right, if I've got rips in my jeans and it's winter.
Browned off. I've only ever heard fake tan
once and it was a spray tan. I've had a spray tan once, Never
again. So oh, so a spray tan or fake
tan? Yeah, it's different.
Fake tan. You put it there of a tube
yourself in a spray tan is you have to go into a booth.
Yeah. Get your body sprayed.

(41:02):
Yeah, I think that. Scene in.
France, yeah, one Mississippi 2 Mississippi Young people are
like what? Friends, I know No, the time off
The biggest loser. We all got spray tans.
For the crack like. No no no, no.
Like as part for filming the final.
Oh, you were told you. Were as in like they got the

(41:24):
there was a person in the ITV buildings that did like proper,
a less celeb, like tans like proper.
He was there for that, for otherguests that were on other shows.
And they got him to come over and do our tans.
Was we were waiting to like was we were getting ready for to go
out and like film and all that kind of stuff the day before?
Yeah, Other people. It's a person who is a body

(41:48):
coach and would advise against GLP one and then end up taking
it too. I think I was thinking.
This is a fan we know. Who you're talking, we think we
know you're talking about their person.
Yeah, I get us so. Aggressive about it when he.
Wasn't taking it and. Actually, do you know what?
There's some massive, massive ones doing that now.
Yeah and they're they're giving and I got annoyed at this.

(42:10):
I I would probably the same person but this I don't follow
them but the pop up every now and again this personal trainer
giving medical advice about the medication that it was not in
line is. He the is he the one that lives
in England? Yes, he's in Britain.
And there's also one that lives in Australia now.
OK, OK. Yeah.
I don't. Is it books out?
Yeah. See, I tend not to follow those

(42:32):
because they just wrecked my head.
I'm like, no, but again, personal trainers, not doctors.
They should not be telling you medical advice about your
medication, how to take it all right on your doctor.
Prescription, so don't ask. Them if they.
Do tell you don't trust them. People talking and eating at the
same time on full volume. Oh, and full volume calls
playing it out. Oh my God, yes.
People that have their like their their volume on full when

(42:52):
they're listening to like music or phone calls or stuff like
that. I yeah, totally get that.
Umm, yeah, and some. People be that's that's less
that little self-awareness. It's just it's antisocial
behaviour. I just can't stand that sort of
way. And then someone else said about
people, these kind of personal friends are just dropping F
bombs all time. They're just shouting and

(43:13):
condescending in general. I don't subscribe.
Yeah, I agree. Umm, so that's cool.
Now, Belinda, we did also say that that we're going to talk
about, umm, if we were starting out again, what things would we
do differently? Uh, you go first.

(43:33):
OK. So when I was starting out, I
was and I kind of thought that the medically supported route
was the route that I was going to go.
I wanted to kind of work with people that I thought might be
experts in that area and stuff like that.
And at the time there was 2 mainkind of routes that I could have

(43:56):
went. One of them I had contacted and
I had made an appointment and everything with boss.
There was a bit of a wait time to get an appointment with them
and in the meantime another one came back saying that they could
basically meet with me that weekas such to get things off.
And of course I was eager as a lot of us are.
I, I would say I was probably maybe somewhat desperate to

(44:18):
start my journey. So I was like, OK, I want to get
this kick started. Let's, I'm going to cancel that
appointment I've already made and I'm going to go to with,
with, with this route instead, this body, this, yeah, this,
this way. And I joined, I was all excited.
I had my kind of first consultation, whatever, and a
few, you know, one or two appointments and stuff like

(44:39):
that. Got my prescription, met with
some people there, and some of the individuals I met with were
really, really nice people. Don't get me wrong, we're like
extremely nice people, but as time went on I started to feel

(44:59):
like I was more a potential marketing opportunity for this
thing rather than actually just a private patient that was on a
journey trying to be supported by a medical team and.
How did that present? So I was, I, I was approached, I

(45:24):
was approached to see if I wouldbe interested in doing like kind
of like a brand ambassador type thing or, you know, something
like that for an organization. And I said no, that I actually,
I wasn't because this was as much as I'm sharing stuff online
in terms of that side of things.And I was a private patient, you

(45:46):
know, in terms of my healthcare and what I was doing.
And I didn't want to turn that into something that was like,
you know, predicted that point when it was still a relatively
early my journey. I just wanted to focus on my
thing and me being control of things.
So I said no, I would say, and again, at this point, remember I
had been losing weight quite quickly and I was kind of
sharing some of that online. And I after that initial

(46:09):
conversation, I kind of felt a little bit like, oh, is, is,
yeah, like are they approaching me?
Because they've seen them havingsuccess with the medication and
all the effort and putting in and stuff like that.
So maybe a little bit uneasy. And I was like, no, well, an
issue. I thought, I've said no, that's
great. I've said no.
I would say within two weeks I had another ask again of hey,

(46:32):
would you do kind of some publicity thing and blah, blah,
blah. And I was like, I've already
said no to this. I, I, I don't want to do that.
That's not the route that I'm interested in.
So again, no, thank you. No, but appreciate you asking me
a again. A little bit later I had an

(46:58):
e-mail from someone else in the company, hey, wondering if you
would do some publicity stuff for us, blah blah blah blah.
And I sat down, redeem it. I was like, what part of this is
not getting through? I have said was.
It from the same person though. No, this was a different person,
but still the same place I was like I've said no to this.

(47:20):
Why again are you coming to me? I've explained to to this
company, you know, multiple times.
I'm a private patient. I'm want to do my journey.
I'm doing the thing. I do not want to go down that
route of doing publicity for, for this.
And so when I got the e-mail, I was like, I can't believe.
So I went back in and said, lookat I've said no already twice to

(47:40):
this. And I'm not really sure why I'm
being asked, you know, what kindof about this again.
And then there's only one part of the story, by the way,
there's all there are strands tothis that I'm going to come back
to as well. So then I was in a, I'm trying
to be careful what I'm saying aswell for particular reasons, But
I, I was in a professional, I was in a professional meeting,

(48:04):
OK, as part of my journey and wehad discussed kind of progress
and stuff like that as a, in a private patient capacity.
And then at the end of that meeting, it was brought up again
by a qualified health professional about would I do
publicity or, you know, had it been raised with me.
And so I was like, this is the fourth time this has been
brought up for me in a relatively short period of time.

(48:26):
I am literally like, I don't know what more can say.
And I felt really ethically wrong that a private patient had
said no to something. And I was persistently being
said, being asked, will you do? Yeah.
And I was like, so So I decided to leave that Ave. that I had
that company. Now some of the other things
that happened parallel with thiswas there was one stage whereby

(48:50):
umm where my prescription was meant to go to was the same
pharmacy every time that I was using.
And there was 1 instance wherebymy prescription was sent to a
completely wrong pharmacy and I get human error happens.
But I flagged this as hey, I'm concerned with this from AGDPR
perspective. And again, there's requirements
under GDPR and data protection. And like, what if this had been

(49:11):
sent to a pharmacy where the family member work and they
didn't know what journey is on her?
So I was like, this isn't OK. Like I was just like, oh, we'll
get the pharmacy to send it overto your one.
I was like, no, no, but that's not the point here.
I was like, there needs to be anunderstanding of how was this
sent to the wrong thing? Like there needs to be a better.
Wasn't there that that wasn't there.
No, no, no, no, no, it wasn't their primary concern.

(49:34):
I was like, whoa, yes, So that was that was another thing.
And then when the very first kind of conversation kicked off
between myself and the stuff royalty that was recently on
when that when that kicked off August of last year as well.
Some of the people from the organization have been in touch

(49:55):
me and one of their very first kind of messages that evening, I
think it was, if not the next day was, oh, did you get a
chance to mention us? And I was just like, Oh my God,
this is so unprofessional. This is not, how many times do I
have to say I'm a private patient of this thing.
I am not here for your benefit. There's probably other things as
well that I that I have forgotten along the way.

(50:18):
I remember them. Yeah, but but I was just like,
no, I definitely after a short number of months was being made
to feel very much like just a potential commercial opportunity
for them or branding opportunityas opposed to a patient.
So I changed the route that I was on.

(50:39):
So going back to something that I would change when I was
starting out from that perspective, I would try to do a
lot more due diligence about theroute that I am starting out on
and making sure you. Could never have preempted that
though, Paddy, ever. Nobody would have ever suspected
that would happen from a professional.
I I know. Multiple professionals, even.
Yeah. But I think even with awareness

(51:02):
of some of the different avenuesand routes that are out there
now, I think I probably could have done a bit more myself.
But anyway, so that, that's in terms of starting out on my
journey, that is something that I kind of wish I had waited the
extra 5 or 6 weeks now and gone with option B at that moment in
time. Because I, I think like, I
wouldn't have been tied in financially either because this

(51:24):
was a subscription thing where you had to stay for a certain
number of months and you know, you had to get you to give a
certain amount of notice. And this is on top of
medication. So there was, there was multiple
things. So I think it's about as much
like my tip is do your homework on whatever route you are
taking, Make sure it's somethingthat fits for you both in terms

(51:44):
of your journey, whether it's medicated or not medicated.
And think about you think all yeah, like I was going to even
just think like financially, what is the best route as well
for you, you know, because some places will tie you into a
commitment, some places won't and some places will have more
bespoke approaches. And I think that would have

(52:05):
actually worked better for me inthe end as well.
Of course, you know, because. I think that the bespoke part of
it is the key, isn't it? It's tapping into and figuring
out what is going to serve you the most.
And I have never spoke about that before anywhere on social
media. And I know I've spoke to you
better a couple of times becauseI've always wanted to wait until

(52:29):
I felt in a place of I guess I don't know.
I don't know, I have. A better understanding of it.
Yeah, I don't know. I think, I think just
understanding the other options and other things and seeing that
actually, yeah, it was unethicaland it was wrong under I, I
didn't feel like I was their priority as as a patient.
So and like I look at the last messages that I sent some of the

(52:51):
key people it where that was. And they went.
Not answered. On I ignored.
Yeah. So do you know what I mean?
Like. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, so that's a. Big one and you know, I just got
just going back to the the bespoke thing.
Not everybody needs everything all the.

(53:13):
Time. No, no, no you don't.
You know, like for the year and a half that I was on my journey
with the company that I was with, if I had just my
medication and my health coach, I would have needed nothing
else, you know, because I didn'treally get much from anything
else. Only that you know.
So along your journey you've done brand ambassadorships with

(53:39):
in a previous in a previous lifewould say.
In a previous life, yeah. Did you feel that that was
approached through a way that made sure that you were at the
center of things from a patient and looking after you or?
I looking back on it now, I my God.
So let me ask, this is so, so, so usually in terms of like

(54:01):
brand ambassadors and stuff likethat, It's a commercial
agreement. This is what happens in the
world of content creation and when there is things like that.
And usually people will be getting paid for their time,
their effort, their content. And there's nothing wrong with
people making money from that way.
Absolutely nothing because you were putting time and effort and
you were helping another brand. So I guess on that first bit, do

(54:21):
you think that there was? It was a mutually beneficial for
both parties. Absolutely not.
Under no circumstances. That was my my one of my biggest
mistakes, my other big, big mistake.
And it wasn't my mistake, it wastheirs because I was allowed to

(54:42):
stall for months on end without being offered the next level of
medication that was available. So.
So I feel like I was just left. OK.
So you had stalled for a prolonged period of time and

(55:03):
then essentially you. Felt months.
Eight months. And is it that you felt that
there wasn't an actual holistic view being taken off your
approach and then bespoke medical guidance been given on
that or, or or? I think it was the set point
theory that was given to me. And as I was saying before the

(55:23):
podcast, I didn't know about Manjaro until I started speaking
to you. So I want to ask, so from when
you were told that you were not going to lose any more.
So sorry, I, I might be sharing something here that I've got to
you. So you were told, you were told
that you were not going to lose any more weight essentially
unless you had bariatric surgery?
Yes, that's exactly what I was told.

(55:43):
How much weight have you lost since then?
Since I went on Monjaro. Well, since you had that
conversation with whoever was that. 2 1/2 stone.
OK, so you went from being told you're not?
I really don't know what to say about that now, to be honest
with you, Patty. Yeah, you know, Yeah.
They were wrong. Yeah.
Yeah, they were wrong. So I suppose don't believe

(56:06):
everything you're told, even when it is from a professional.
Yeah. And The thing is, look at
sometimes doctors will be tryingto make a calculated assessment
on something. So they will.
And sometimes our bodies can react in a different way.
But I know when we started having these conversations based
even on my, as I said, I'm not adoctor, but just on my limited,

(56:28):
you know, experience, experienceand stuff like that, I was like,
OK, but Belinda, what about thisand what about this and what
about this? I remember us having a talk
about this, about changing this and trying this.
And this was then when you started thinking about the gym
and some bits and peas like thatas well.
Yeah. And your body did respond to, to
to different stimulus without need to prevent that route.
Now, some people, some people absolutely may still need

(56:48):
surgery and stuff. But for you specifically, we're
talking about and the journey you were on and the guidance and
support you were getting. Listen, the whole reason that I
took the medical weight loss route was because I didn't have
time in my life to go and fly toanother country, have bariatric
fly home and have downtime. I wanted to take this medication

(57:11):
and for it not to impact my life.
And then for me to have lost four stone and told that I had
reached my set point and that ifI wanted to go any further that
it would have to be bariatric surgery of some form.
And then after that I went on tolose 2 1/2 stone more myself.
And during that kind of eight-month period or whatever

(57:34):
it was, had you flagged to your health professionals about I'm
concerned. I was logging me wait every time
I had an appointment with anybody.
Yeah. And would they have come into
you like, hey, Belinda, we know that you're stalling.
We want to get ahead of this. We want to look at what's the
alternatives, what's the optionsfor you, etcetera.
Now, Oh, I was. The option I was given was

(57:55):
bariatric surgery. Yeah.
No change of medication. I wasn't offered Manjaro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, which had literally
just burst onto the scene here in Ireland, for God's sake, you
were taking. It, but well, again, not
necessarily released in our access to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, my endocrinologist was from the north of Ireland.

(58:15):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, you know, just be careful. Just be very careful.
And, and just be very careful. Do your due diligence, make sure
that you feel that you are beingsupported fully and that it's
not just a like like like a 15 minute appointment off where you

(58:39):
know what's your weight housing.We're going OK, that's a good
that it should be a OK, let's review your journey.
Let's review how are things going?
What have you been doing? Like how is the appointments
with the dietitian going? How is the appointments with are
are are you focusing on movement?
How's your body responding that it is a full holistic review
that's been taken to support youand particularly.

(59:00):
During those, the only, the onlykind of holistic thing that I
ever got was through my life coach, sorry, through my umm,
health coach. Umm, that wasn't her job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, to, you know, umm and oh,
while I was stalled only for her, I would have, I definitely

(59:22):
would have gone backwards only for her.
I wouldn't have anyone to talk to about this.
And, and she encouraged me to keep focusing on the good, keep
focusing on doing better tomorrow than you did today.
And that's the only thing that saved me really within those
eight months of a stall because I was still spending so much

(59:43):
money on medication and everything else for eight
months. That's that I see.
No, you know, up or down rating,but I didn't gain in those eight
months either. Because I was.
Working. Yeah.
And I was working really hard. And I need to say it like one of
things, so my first. Non medical appointment with

(01:00:05):
where I was, we did talk about things like personal values and
stuff like that. And I did find that first
session very beneficial. And to this day there's still
stuff there like little mantras that I said to myself from that
very first session. So, and again, I, I, I don't
want this to because I'm sure there's some people listening
that'll be like, oh God, that's me or whatever.
But in in terms of that, that side of things, I, I did get

(01:00:28):
some support, but it was more soagain, I think the for me, just
me being felt like, hello, here's marketing opportunity.
First, let's keep pressing him. He might do it.
And then that's her like, Nah, do you know what?
Fuck this, I'm leaving. I'm, I'm, I'm jumping to you.
And he did yeah. Like I'm like, I kind of stopped
officially kind of month before I actually kind of came off

(01:00:49):
their books and such. But it is fascinating.
And this the last thing I'm saying it.
We know multiple people who are still in some of the spaces we
were in previously that are experienced in some of the
things that we experienced, which is so disappointing.
Yeah, and they reach out to us all the.
Time. Yeah, you know.

(01:01:11):
And it's the same thing. There could be a book there.
Yeah, and what, umm, other thing?
Just a quick one, Paddy. What other thing would you have
changed? About yeah, so, so I think you
know that aside like for example, I think some of the
stuff I've talked talked about before is awareness that I
didn't need to rush up through the doses that that was

(01:01:32):
definitely going to be the wrongthing, that I didn't need to
stay on kind of the a particulardose for for just.
Nobody told you that even thoughyou were paying for a service.
Sorry. But that.
But the other thing is, well, soI after, after my initial 4
weeks, I was given a prescription for the next dose,
but then that was for three months of that dose.

(01:01:53):
And I was like, Oh yeah. And I was like, well, should we
not wait and see what the titration is in case I need to
go up to the next dose after that like or, or kind of gauge a
type thing? So there was like an presumptive
approach to things. And given that I'd monthly check
insurance, I've like we're coming out, just do it a bit
more, kind of see how things areresponding, you know, and then
that's what we did end up doing,but so.

(01:02:14):
Did you go from 2.5 to 5 to 7.5?South fairly quickly. 2.4.
I definitely could have said in 2.5.
I've said this multiple times. I definitely, and I think I
definitely could have stayed in it longer.
I know when we talk about this all the.

(01:02:35):
Time we're. Just telling people do not I was
I was in up in the swimming poolthis afternoon talking to a lady
and she's on it as well and that's the only thing I said to
her you don't have to rush this if you're losing weight on.
To tell your doctor, look at it still working for me.
I'm still getting this therapeutic response, all that
kind of stuff. You know, have that conversation

(01:02:55):
with them so that they understand that maybe, you know,
they can assess, OK, actually, maybe we don't need to move up
yet or whatever. Umm, but yeah, So I think for
me, that's definitely one of thethings.
The other thing which, which I did do now I'll say I, I do a
very strong awareness of nutrition.
I do, I do get that. But I am glad still that I did
have a meeting with a registereddietitian because it did

(01:03:16):
reinforce for me the things thatI thought were right as being
right. So that is something that I
think a lot of people reach out to me when they're like, you
know, oh, hey, I'm on this 5-6 months, whatever and blah, blah,
blah. I'm like, have you ever met with
a registered dietitian? And I would love when you were
starting out in that kind of month, one month 2 with the
latest, get an appointment with that registered dietitian.
Absolutely. And then again, when the time is

(01:03:36):
ready to meet with a somebody that has specialist in movement
as well, like a personal traineror a strength coach or something
like that. And we've said this before, you
don't have to rush that, but it needs to be part of your your
journey. It does.
It really, really does. You know, I do wish I had
started more focus on my strength training earlier.

(01:03:57):
The same, yeah, I didn't start till like December.
Yeah, like I focus, I did focus on movement and in my mind it
was from a place of I want to get back into building the habit
of going to the gym and moving. And that's why for me, it was
spinning that I got into like I was doing spinning like maybe
6-7 times a week. That's supposed to be wild
crazy. Isn't it was like half hour
classes and stuff like that? Like I wasn't, Yeah, yeah.

(01:04:19):
But still. My friend does it.
Yeah, and it was like the intro to spinning classes.
So like, I'm not going to say I was like I was putting an
effort, but like it wasn't like an hour long intense session
every day or anything like that.There were some days I might do
2 sessions, but I think it served its purpose in terms of
helping to get me back into the routine.
But like I started my strength training properly.

(01:04:41):
I think it was about maybe month4:00-ish, maybe something like
that, and I would have loved it.Maybe month two or something to
bring that in a bit earlier. But you've done it all before.
Haven't you? I've done all this, Yeah, like,
like I have done a. But I think the difference is
even being a personal trainer, that doesn't mean you know
everything about everything in the gym.
So like Max that I'm working with now, he is the expert in
strength training. Like he is the person that is

(01:05:02):
like superior. Not Max as well.
Yes, mine is actually a real person though.
A real person. Yeah, but but like Max, he's my
coach. He is the expert for me on like
things strength based on technique, on progression, on if
I say, hey, I want to change from strength focus to
hypertrophy, which is muscle building.
He he takes care of that for me.And so that is a really

(01:05:25):
important part of my journey as well, you know?
I'm really hoping my gym will dothat for me as well after I have
my operation like I've told. I've told them now what's what's
happening and my first priority,apart from making sure that kids
are OK, will be to get back to that goddamn gym.

(01:05:45):
So you mentioned your operation.I don't think we've shared
context about this on podcasts yet.
So what? Oh yeah, I'm having a discectomy
in May, next month. I've had one four years ago.
So I'm going into this knowing exactly what I'm going into and
exactly what it's going to be like, but I'm hoping that I'm
going to reach a milestone of weight loss before then, which

(01:06:08):
will give me a better chance of recovering quicker.
My core is about 100% stronger this time around.
I'm 100% fitter as well. My mindset, I'm not in an awful
place mentally either. Yeah, like I was the last time
going in. I was on morphine and everything

(01:06:30):
in crutches and I couldn't barely remember my own name.
So like some of this obviously feels very familiar to me back
in January, February kind of time.
Yeah, and I haven't even thoughtabout coming off Monjaro, Paddy.
And that's going to say, have you had any kind of engagement
with anaesthetist or consultant or anything like that about that
side of things? No, but you probably have an

(01:06:50):
idea that it's going to be like one or two weeks beforehand,
you're going to be coming off the medication and whatever
amount of time afterwards. But that's only if I tell them.
No, Belinda. No, of course I'll have to tell
them what would happen if that happened to me on the bloody
table. And this is the thing.
There's a risk. Um, basically what happens is
with, um, GLP one medication, when you're going under say a

(01:07:12):
general anaesthetic, there's a risk basically that, that
digestive, the slowing down of your digestion can suddenly
release food and stuff like thatrapidly and quickly.
And this can cause complications.
Then when you're in so it it cancause.
Under anesthesia, yeah. Yeah, if you have to.
Tell your doctor. Yeah.
And then, yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
Interesting how that goes for you.
You know, I see. I hate grace.

(01:07:34):
It's not going to be a short. It's not going to be a short
period of time at all at all like.
What's the kind of recovery timeafterwards?
Two months. OK, OK.
Yeah. Well, and that's, that's two
months being able to drive the car.
Yeah, be able to drive maybe sixweeks I'll be able to drive the
car and then maybe slowly get back into swimming.

(01:07:55):
Yes, yes, Once the staples in myback come and I, when I talk
about staples, I mean, they're exactly the same kind of staples
that you put into a stapler. Oh my God.
And they're just. Quicker, Could you not just go
to like the stationary shop and just like, you know, do
something there, put in a few old staples or thumbtacks?
And then going in to get them taken out.

(01:08:15):
Yeah, lovely thoughts there. Anyway, I have to go for an MRI
before the operation and hopefully a miracle will have
happened and they'll say Oh no you're grand now Fixed.
You know what would be interesting for you to get done
as well is whatever is the latest date you can before then

(01:08:37):
to get your in body scan done. The day before, yes, I'm doing
it. And then the day you start back
I would do 1. Too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever day is going to be your
first day of activity again, I would.
I would do it then as well. So, yeah, given that you have
access to it in the gym. So for people that are listening

(01:08:58):
in, body is kind of like a body composition scan that some gyms
have, that they have this machine where you stand on it
and you hold handles or stuff like that, and it'll give you a
measurement of like your bone and your muscle and all that
kind of stuff. Yeah.
So it tells you what weight you've lost, what muscle you
have gained and what fat you have lost.
Yeah. And it's really interesting.
It's crazy interesting, actually.

(01:09:18):
I've never had one before and I've had like 3 now.
Yeah. So did I.
Did I mention my personal best in the gym today?
No. You didn't.
You mentioned it to me, all right, but you haven't mentioned
it. Here.
Well, I What's it called again? Oh, it lifted 45 KG 40.
Five KG woo, look at us, the sound effects.

(01:09:46):
We've got more budget for this podcast.
It's all the money that we're making.
Yeah, you know. Exactly.
Crickets. I love that.
We definitely have to get into that Paddy, 45 KG.
And I think it was a paused deadlift where you lift it up to

(01:10:06):
your knee and then you bring it,bring it up.
So I got up to 45 KG and I'd done seven of those.
And I put a video up on Facebook, Instagram actually,
and that is the amount of weightyou've lost, Paddy.
Pretty much, yeah. That's pretty much the weight
that I've. Lost.
And that's my, that's my goal weight.

(01:10:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That I've lost.
Yeah, that I'm. Trying to lose crazy isn't it?
Some bloody weight to be carrying around, mate.
I know. When you see the strain that I'm
under trying to lift that and you are carrying that around on
your back. Yep.
It's mental. It is.
How did we ever. Like I know and that's him back
in January when I did the 5K every day and the last one I put

(01:10:49):
the weight on that I had lost again.
Like it broke me. I was like how, how was I going
around with this on my body? It just felt so tough and it was
very emotional. OK was what is vibrating or what
is going on? Belinda, I hear.
Something I'm just I forgot I had my watch on in the pool.

(01:11:09):
I swam 500 meters and I forgot to eject the water out of my
Apple Watch, no. She's talking to me.
This is this is such a chaotic episode.
Belinda Mother. I know, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, are you going to havesome Easter eggs?
Well, somebody dropped off 3 Easter eggs and a box of.

(01:11:31):
Chocolate. I've had a lot of these drugs
already. A lot.
Have you? Yeah, already.
The ones there are items I don'tcare more than mince pies.
As soon as they come out, I'm like, yeah, mince pies, mince
pine cream. Yeah, like this small, like the
ones that you get like 5 or €5 or something like that, those
kind. Of ones.
Yeah. So we've had had some of those

(01:11:53):
not recently, but like, oh God, I can't.
I can't. Look how do you looking forward
to your holiday? Oh my God, I can't wait.
Mallorca mutant. Mutant OK.
Where is where's Majorca again? Canaries.
No, in last. Somewhere in the water and
Spain. Yeah, I've never been there
before. I don't know.
Cool. It's where mega look is
apparently. I'm not going.

(01:12:15):
I'm not going there though. I'm going to eh Kata Rajad and
I'm probably butchering that, but it's somewhere on these
coast. So we're going to a hotel that
is a child free hotel that has asauna and a spa on the rooftop
overlooking the beach and has lent.
Oh God, I just can't. I'm just living for it.
Like I, I can't believe how longit's been since I've had a
proper holiday. Umm.

(01:12:36):
Stop talking now you're. Making you're just back in 10
days 1 so. I can't give over.
Listen to me. I had one day where I was able
to go and lie on the sun loungerby the pool at the adults only
section and I kid you not I was there 15 minutes and I had the
smallest come over with tears falling down his eyes and snot

(01:12:56):
roll near of his nose. Push me into the swimming pool.
Get away from me. You think I won't have that from
Peter? Context.
Peter is my husband who is 9 months older than me.
They won't play with. Me.

(01:13:22):
I have an epic. Time I cannot wait and it's it's
nice because I'd say we're flying out my birthday we're
there for a wedding anniversary.I have told the hotel in nine
emails it is our wedding anniversary.
You know you got a chance that I'll have to bring bring some
empty SIM proof bottles with me.Oh.
Yeah, yeah, some nice shower, yes and yes, and lotion.
I have a lot of. You the other night in Clayton's

(01:13:44):
up in the airport, actually. Oh I've been fleeting the place.
I have a lot of empty SIM proof bottles, so I do to make use of
like I had so many that I was like, I'm not going to use all
these so I'm going to have to recycle some of them.
Like I was keeping them all. Like I literally had like 10 or
11 SIM proof bottles like on thetable.
I was like, I'm not going to fill all these so.
I bet you would though. If I was going to a nice hotel

(01:14:05):
it would 100%. You're always in a bloody hotel.
No, I am not. But yeah.
Anything else on this episode? Anything else?
Was there anything else we're going to talk about?
No, I think that's it. I think how was it really,
wasn't it? Yeah, we've done well.
We haven't announced what next week's podcast is going to be,

(01:14:25):
which is an interview with somebody that you once called
the Oracle. Yes, and we're OK to say who it
is now. It's OK, we'll have it out.
So next week on the podcast we are going to be talking to
Doctor Mccrotty who? Doctor Mick.
Yeah, now and does this really awkward because before we went

(01:14:46):
on, he's like, oh, look, you don't actually call me Doctor,
uh, Claudio, Dr. Mick. And then you kept going with
Doctor and I kept going with Mick and I was like, oh, people,
people are going to think I'm being really disrespected.
I'm not like he specifically said.
So when you listen to it, umm. He's calling him Mick and I'm
calling him. Doctor And then I feel really
awkward and then there's sometimes I refer to Doctor.
But anyway, it is like it's an interview we've wanted to do

(01:15:09):
since we started this podcast. And Doctor Party Make is like
one of the people that both of us have looked up in different
classes and for different reasons have looked up to for so
long. And we're just so glad that
we're able to get him on the podcast and have a chat with
him. Yeah, so.
And follow him, his content is great.
You know, it's it's my best way.My best way, yeah.

(01:15:31):
And neither of us have been patients, but my best way to
call that out, and we've no association with My Best Way or
anything whatsoever like that. We just think he's great.
It was just, yeah, we're just big fans of him as a person and
the work that he does and the advocacy he does and stuff like
that. And we've got some really good
guests coming up as well, haven't we?
Yes, really interesting. We're also going to be talking
to Ashley, who is also on the program with Katherine Thomas

(01:15:54):
and has done like amazing content online and you've been
so open about her journey and other people lined up as well.
So yeah, really excited. But a little reminder before we
wrap up folks. So I only learned this week,
Apple partner, I know the chartsand Baba, I shouldn't bother
with them too much. But the charts and Apple
podcasts don't just go by listenership.

(01:16:15):
They go by like people that follow, people that subscribe
all like multitude of other things.
So if you enjoy our podcast, we would love if you could leave us
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(01:16:37):
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follow us as well on whichever on that specific do.
Follow us. Yeah.
But like on our podcast, Yeah. So like on Apple podcast or on
Spotify, follow like the Doors. It means a huge amount to us and
just say thank you so much as well, because like once we might
be able to get back to everybodythat reaches out on social

(01:16:58):
media. It is appreciated that people do
look up to us in that way and dohave trust in us that way.
Umm, but again, the answer will always be if you haven't got an
answer from us, it is more it's probably that your answer or
your question is medical and that's.
Like. You need to go to a doctor or a
dietitian or whatever. For because generally what, the
only thing that we can ever really speak about is our own

(01:17:21):
lived journeys and our own livedexperiences.
And that's, that's all that we're really there for, you
know? Yeah.
Umm. But yeah, cool, Belinda, is it
music time? Yep, it's been a pleasure.
Paddy, well, I don't know if I'dget that optimistic.
I'll talk to you tomorrow. Tomorrow I didn't.

(01:17:41):
See the amount of voice notes I sent you yesterday?
I did. I actually showed it to Max when
I was in the gym. I was like, this is how you tell
Belinda back. I'm Belinda.
I will talk to you again next week for next week's podcast.
Wait, Patty. Looking forward to it.
Cannot wish. Alrighty.
Yeah. Thanks guys.

(01:18:02):
Bye. None of this conversation should

(01:18:30):
be taken as medical advice for you.
Before starting or changing any medical or Wellness treatment,
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