Nutrition & Food for your weight loss journey

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Speaker 2 (00:43):
And you are very welcome along to another episode
of the Dose with myself, paddyand.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Belinda.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hi Belinda, how's, things?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Good, how are you, paddy?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, I'm good, thanks, all I was going to say
what people can't see if they'renot watching the video of this,
which will only be, I think, atthe moment on YouTube, which,
interestingly, a lot of peopleare watching.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
so there is a video on YouTube.
Did we put up the video contentof last week's one, paddy?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
on YouTube.
Yeah, I did oh yeah, I musthave a look yeah, but all I can
say is Belinda, I don't like.
What do you do?
What teabagging are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Paddy, I'm just going to watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Like if people watch the video, it is going to make
sense.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
It is a honey, lemon and chamomile tea.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Okay, so you're making tea Grant.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then, on this one , I have my protein drink that
I've been banging on about allweek.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Oh yeah, your protein lemonade.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Peach tea flavoured Peach tea flavour.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Peach tea.
I like peach tea.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, it's just very strong.
I don't know what it is.
I don't even know what theproduct is actually, because
there's so much stuff written onthe package.
Is it like what you're drinkingthere?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, I think so.
So the one that, because I wasin Lidl today, is that where you
got that yeah.
I was in Lidl and I looked atthat one.
I think it's like peach tea.
Yeah, the dose.
Yeah, I don't know why not well, that's because you've got a
nice background.
Yeah, because this is all messyand you can't yeah, it's been
messy for weeks.
What we're talking about isdrink that Belinda got.

(02:39):
I really like peach teaactually.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, it's only a tenner, I think.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I saw it in Lidl today and I did read it.
It's like a clear whey, I think, type drink or whatever Clear
protein type drink.
Yeah, so the one I am drinkinghere is a strawberry kiwi
flavour and it is gorgeousbecause I've seen You've got a
little shaker in there, a little.
A little ball to the shake,yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, there little um , a little balls of the shake,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do with them
I don't have one of those thatcould make a difference in the
flavor yeah, could it yeah yeahbecause sometimes it won't
properly dissolve and, as you'redrinking it, you might get, you
might get a little lump andthen you get a full go with the
flavor, yeah, do you have uhlike a put it or a little
blender?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
thing?
Yes, I do.
Yeah, use that use that problemsolved.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Problem 725 solved by Paddy so, belinda, the last
time we spoke was before NewYear's Day, because our last
spoke was before New Year's Day,because our last podcast was
about New Year's.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
How was?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
New Year's for you.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
It was good, it was quiet.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
New Year's Day we went out for dinner with the
whole family and, yeah, it wasgood.
It was good there was like 14of us there or so.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Wow and.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I did actually have a drink that day okay, and how's
that?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
grand I know your first in a while that was my
first in a while.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, and to be honest with you, while I was
drinking it, I could have leftit there yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
actually, just while I'm on thatsubject, I'm reading a really
good book at the moment and it'scalled uh, quit like a woman
and it's by holly whitaker, andthe only reason I have it in
book form is because it's not onaudible um, but it's really

(04:33):
good, it's really informative,so it is yeah yeah um, I was
thinking about it yeah, so whatdid you?
do for new year, did you?
You didn't, didn't go out, didyou know?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
So no, new Year's I was.
No, I don't go out.
Oh no, like I'm in my 40s, Idon't go out.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know, mate, I know I'm heading up against 50.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Like when it starts getting to like 8 o'clock.
I'd be like, oh God no, I coulddo an old heated blanket now or
, you know, a little hot waterbottle or something like that,
but anyway, however, so no, no,we normally stay in and ring in
the new year watching, likeJules Holland or one of those,
but we watched Sophie.

(05:19):
Alice Baxter was on in the newyear, so we watch yeah, we're
going to see her later this yearin concert in the Olympia.
Nice, nice so go see her.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Do you know who I'm going to see?
I'm going to see Paul Smith thecomedian.
Ah, cool, okay yeah yeah, Ithink that's in the second half
of the year.
Okay, I also got a night withAdele just her.
Not the real one, but this girlthat travels around and does
what are they called?

(05:49):
I?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
was thinking can Adele travel that far to South
Tip?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I know right, Maybe North Tip you can't.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, even North Tip's, way too far for you.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.
What are they called thosebands that take off other?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
bands Like a tribute.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Tribute, yeah, yeah, it's what?
What do they call those bandsthat take off other bands?
Tribute, tribute?
Yeah, it's a tribute.
Yeah, down in Waterford.
So I'm not really lookingforward to that as well, okay
and what else did I get?
Oh yeah, I got a.
Well, I'm saying what I got,but I got Sean yeah, a ticket to
this um show, but the audienceis the jury at a murder scene at
a murder court thing.

(06:26):
It's like my favourite thing inthe world.
I love that kind of shit so Ibought it for Sean for Christmas
lovely.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
When I was at Electric Picnic I went to Laura
Whitmore and Ian Sterling's livepodcast of their True Crime one
they they did it at EP in atent a live recording like a
live podcast.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, oh, we're gonna get there, paddy yeah, we're
gonna do that someday we will Iknow we have no doubt we will
god, we may have already you're,you're you're already scheming,
I am scheming, I am scheming, Iabsolutely I'm visualising if
you can just write somethingdown for me and give me a time
and date and a place and I'lljust turn up.

(07:09):
Is that alright?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
yeah, perfect this is where it'll be like.
Okay, belinda, you know howlike techie stuff might be my
thing, organising might be moreyours, so I like this is where
it'll we'll be good.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
We'll be good.
No, we'll be fine.
What did you get for Christmasoff Santa then?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So got some vouchers for flights for hotels.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Lovely.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Aftershaves, got some nice ritual stuff, some voyeur
stuff.
Yeah, got some really nicestuff Nice Excellent.
But yeah, got some really nicestuff, nice Excellent.
But yeah, we were talking aboutfood Actually.
So, over New Year's, how hasyour food, how's your food this

(07:55):
week versus the past week or two?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh, there's a big difference.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
There's a big difference and I've been talking
about this on my stories aswell that my stomach had gotten
so bad because of just notovereating.
I didn't overeat at any stageat all, but just because we had
spoken about the different foodsthat's in our house at the
moment, um, and the littlethings that are around and the

(08:23):
little things that are, likethere were sweets in my goddamn
gym.
Do you know what I mean?
yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have atub around yeah and um, my
stomach got really bad, likereally really bad.
My ibs started kicking up aswell, um, but that was purely
because my tummy, my digestivesystem, has not been used to

(08:43):
that kind of stuff.
So what I did to reset my gut,literally to reset my stomach
was I did a fast.
I did a 23 and a half hour fast.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, I used to do it a lot when I was on keto paddy
like a lot, and it didn't reallyphase me.
And then I had a very smallwindow to have something really
good and nutritious to eat andthen I went into another fast
and after I did that for maybethree days, I'm exactly back to
where I should be okay, coolyeah and I feel, I feel

(09:16):
fantastic yeah, and it didn'tjust reset my gut.
It reset my mind.
It made me more focused yeah andit just kind of pushed me on.
You know, gave me a littlebrush that I needed yeah, so
that was great.
And what about you?
How did you kind of?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
yeah.
So, like I, um, I said there'sstill sweets around and I've
still.
Even earlier I picked like twoor three of them.
I went down to make tea.
Didn't make the tea, but I gotthe sweets.
And this week, I'd say, is.
So the last couple of weekswere definitely not dire, but
there definitely was an increasein foods I wouldn't normally

(09:56):
have day to day, and that seemsto be it.
Consents with some other peopleI've been chatting to as well
is that it's a different time ofyear, there's different foods
around.
We're eating, eating out,you're doing this, you're doing
that and similarly, even today Iwas chatting to all my friends
and they were saying similarthing that they had some of the
digestive kind of discomfort, um, during the christmas period.
And I was like, oh, did youhappen to have like, say, much

(10:18):
fatty stuff or rich foods orstuff?
And they're like, yeah,absolutely.
And I was like and sugar yeah,and they're like yeah, it did so
, there is like it.
There is definitely that kindof correlation, which we know is
is no surprise and again that'spart of the conversation that
always comes up when we talkwith side effects is what are
you eating?
You know what's what?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
yeah, how are you trying to nourish?
Literally is what are youeating?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
yeah, um, and that's why we want to do this podcast
episode today, because we bothwere getting such a huge amount
of questions about what should Ibe eating?
Or I'm feeling crap afterChristmas.
How do I get back on track whatI'm meant to be eating?
And you know, I'm just startingManjaro.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
And I think also as well.
I've just started Manjaro, I'vejust started Ozempic and I
don't know what to do and allthe rest of it.
Now I will say, just on anothernote, that I got this quite a
lot during the week as well frommy ladies in my subscribers
group, where a few of them werestarting out and came back to me

(11:21):
and said like a few days later,my god, I don't know what I'm
doing with, um, my food and thefood scales and the calories,
and it's like stop, yeah, juststop.
If you're just starting out,stop, yeah.
The only advice I can give youis take your medication, put it
back in the fridge and forgetyou've taken it.
Yeah, your body will naturallytell you what you want and what

(11:45):
you need, and you need to be onthe medication for at least two,
three weeks maybe, before youget into all of that thing even
longer of counting calories,counting protein, counting fiber
, when that's something you'veprobably never done before.
So you're trying to do all thatand you're like you're anxious
about this medication thatyou've just taken as well, and

(12:08):
then it just becomes a shit show, doesn't it?
you know, a perfect storm.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
So the I think the most important thing to do is
take the medication, giveyourself a bit of grace, give
yourself a bit of time and justease into it yeah, like think
about, like lego, you knowthey're each building blocks
onto a previous thing that youhave done and I think, like if
you're someone that's sittingthere, you're like, oh, you know
, I typically get, maybe youknow, a takeaway, maybe multiple

(12:34):
times a week, and you know Idon't really get much uh,
natural foods.
Maybe you're thinking, you know, maybe in those early days you
might be like do you know what?
Maybe we reduce maybe just theamount to take with us this week
as a start, but we won't gettoo into it or whatever the case
might be.
But I think Will is definitelyright there in terms of the more
so in everything to do withthis time of year or in general

(12:54):
when people try to lose weight,you just go like full steam
ahead things and it's just notsustainable at that pace you
know, and that's why thoselittle changes are so important.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So so important little changes, one step at a
time it has to be slow andsteady for anything to last or
have longevity.
Those changes that you're goingto incorporate into your life
and into your diet have to beslow and have to be steady.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
It's the only way you're going to get longevity
out of anything and that alsoties in with the other question
that I've been getting a goodbit of, two questions.
One I'm four days in on mymunjaro and I'm not feeling any
effect yet.
I'm worried it's not going towork for me.
So thankfully we've got videoson this so I can just send that
to people.

(13:41):
But again, we've said this somany times in previous podcasts
but in case you haven't heard it, that's perfectly normal,
perfectly normal.
Yes, that initial dose that youtake typically of any of these
medications, on that startingdose, is just that.
It's a starting dose.
Like, hey, buddy, I'm a newmedication, I'm going to be

(14:04):
floating around here for a weewhile.
I'm going to be floating aroundhere for a wee while I'm going
to get stronger over the nextwee while.
So just let me do my thing andyou do your thing and I'll catch
up with you soon.
And that's literally what thatdose is for For, like the first,
maybe it could be four, eight,twelve, it could even be like
three, four months.
I say there is one of thevideos I did on TikTok about
this.
There is one of the videos Idid on TikTok about this.
I said this in the last podcastas well.

(14:24):
I was blown away by how manypeople said I was on 10
milligram before I felt itworking for me.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Same.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I didn't realize the amount of people that were at
that level.
I thought, oh, maybe five, youknow, maybe 7.5.
But I think your experience isit was so different, yeah, and I
absolutely different.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely because so for, for
people that that don't know,paddy would have been, um, what
we call a super responder, whereyou responded immediately to
the medication, and also that,um, the medication worked for
you every single step of the way, like literally within 24 hours
, I was like, oh, oh, my God, Ican barely eat.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
And that is not the norm, nor should that be
something you're lookingAspiring to.
Desirable to yeah, it's notdesirable to have that every day
because you sleep late.
You know, fundamentally themedication is you know the
wording Belinda uses sofrequently and really well is
that the medication is a tool sothat it can allow you to focus

(15:29):
on the other things.
But part of that is making surethat you're still nourishing
your body.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's so important not starving it, because if you
don't nourish your body, yourbody will not work for you.
It will not do the things thatyou wanted to do.
Yeah, and the medication willwork for you.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
It's meant do the things that you wanted to do,
yeah, and the medication willwork for you.
It's meant to.
The medication won't work foryou the way it's meant to,
because absolutely not.
It won't.
No, if you think that's, that'sproven.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I've proven that myself.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like one of the key things
the medication does is to slowdown the digestive empty, as
it's called.
So basically how quickly thethe, the food moves through your
body.
But if you're not gettingenough food in your body for
that to be effective for you,then it's a waste of money, you

(16:13):
know, and a waste of effort.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, you're literally throwing your money
down the drain, and this is nota cheap journey.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, and the other thing to keep in mind this isn't
a diet, it's a medicaltreatment.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
For a disease.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
It's a medical treatment and anawful lot of people, I think,
still need to let that be Comeout of that mindset.
Yeah, sit that this is amedical treatment.
This isn't a diet.
Yes, I need to focus onnutrition along the way, but
this isn't a diet.
Yes, I need to focus onnutrition along the way, but
this isn't a diet that I'mentering into um, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
It's such a huge subject, isn't it?
Because on the back of that,then you could have 27 other
conversations about the people,maybe, that are going on it to
lose 10 pounds and all the restof it.
You, you know, and that's like.
These people are all adults,they can do whatever they want,
but it is a medical treatmentand that's what it's, what it's

(17:12):
meant to be.
I think that's why myself andPaddy I use and do this now, but
I know you do quite a lot.
Paddy is your first port ofcall when someone asks you a
question is um, what did yourdoctor say?
Or what's the other one, what'syour prescriber say?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
yeah, yeah, because most of the time, yeah because
not because if, first of all, ifyou, if you have a query about
the medication that it's notworking right or there's a side
effect or something, yourprescriber or your doctor,
depending on what country you'rein, because in some places
it'll be a pharmacist or a nurseor a doctor so that's why I do
sometimes say, doctor,prescriber um, that should be

(17:49):
your first port of call, likeabsolutely even every time.
Yeah, absolutely, that's whatthey're there for.
But the reason why I'll askthat is what I've learned more
than often, because I might Isaid this before.
We kind of went on air, as I'llsay, but there's sometimes when
my tingly senses start to gothat and this isn't any shame on
the person, I've said thisbefore whereby it can.

(18:10):
It can become very apparentvery quickly where somebody has
sourced something illegitimatelyand it just highlights you.
Okay, have you gone to yourdoctor, have you gone to
prescriber?
And some people like no, Ididn't go that route, I'm
getting it for you whatever.
And I'm like okay, just let youknow.
You know, that's not the bestroute.
For this exact reason, you needmedical professionals.

(18:31):
You can lean in on this journeyyou know, and as much of myself
and you have to have it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, you really do.
You know, it's like with mygirls in the subscribers group
there's nobody in there that isnot under the guys of their
medical doctor or theirprescriber.
There's nobody in there that isnot under the guise of their
medical doctor or theirprescriber.
There's nobody, because I justI I wouldn't feel comfortable
bringing someone in there thathas no idea yeah, of what yeah?
You know like we were talkingbefore, the podcast here, like

(18:58):
this week has been justtreacherous for people messaging
yeah actually asking where do Iget it?
do you sell it?
What were yours?

Speaker 2 (19:07):
so I am.
I would say in the past, overthe weekend, so it's in the last
three days I've had maybe 30plus messages from people asking
where can I get manjaro, orwhat should I be eating, how do
I take it?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
that's what I yeah how do I take this?
What do I do with it?
Yeah, you know, and this is whyit's so important to be going
the legitimate route with yeah,like I suppose really yeah, yeah
, but I suppose really we're notsaying that we're not going to
help people, the but I think theonly help we could give them is
to go to a doctor.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
We can you know?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Like we can give general information on where?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, like you can go to anyone.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, here's whatever , here's this resource, or
here's what Eli Lilly say, orhere's what you know, whatever.
But in terms of that personalmedical advice that you need,
the only person who can do thatis your medical team, the only
person you know.
Yeah, need.
The only person who can do thatis your medical team, the only
person you know.
And you know, I know I've adisclaimer on all of my social

(20:11):
media pages.
The very first thing you'll seeis that I'm not medically
qualified.
None of the things we say areprescribed medical advice for
you on your journey, because wecan't do that.
But we can share our insightsand our learnings and things
that other people have told usand stuff like that, but
sometimes that won't beapplicable to you and that's why
you need to be able to go toyeah, a prescriber, you know
whoever, just to lean on.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You have to be so, you have to be so aware, though,
don't you as well, with yourdisclaimer like I have I?
I literally give it out toevery single person, every
single person you know that thisisn't what we're about, you
know.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
So it's also one of the things that worries me so
much, like particularly onTikTok, TikTok as much as I love
TikTok.
Actually, TikTok have startedtightening up a bit on things
like random.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, Come here and I tell you now.
There was a huge, massivecontent creator that I follow on
TikTok and I only usually goover there for a couple of
people.
She's now on Instagram becauseshe's afraid.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, and that's wild because, if we think, two
months ago not even we wereseeing how meta ie Instagram and
Facebook were clamping down.
But I got a what you call astrike on TikTok the other day
and it said, because I was like,because, like I am, I'm the

(21:30):
good boy like I don't do boldthings on TikTok because I'm so
mindful of what I do there.
But basically, what it said wasa comment you posted was
removed for violating ourcommunity guidelines.
Do you want to know what thecomment was?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
What yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Someone was asking about prescriptions and this
kind of stuff, so my reply wasif it's from an online pharmacy,
these won't be accepted inIreland or in Northern Ireland.
Also, munjarra is not yetavailable in Irish chemists full
stop full stop.
That was the comment and thatgot me a strike on TikTok do you

(22:15):
think that somebody reported it?
I don't know for what, yeah,like there's nothing there.
So I went to, I appealed it,and then they come back.
We're like, oh, okay, yeah,we'll overturn it.
Um, yeah, your appeal stands.
But then I was like okay, butcan you tell me what was the

(22:36):
word?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
or what trigger.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
What was the thing so that I don't do it again like,
even though you're saying I'mright, it's still showing me as
a strike in my in my accountyeah, oh, you can't just that
petty they won't reply.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
No, no they won't, they won't tell you.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
No, the thing is, though, because if you hit I
think it's like three strikes orsomething like that you start
losing some of your access tothings like that and they can
close your account.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
So that's wild, wild west over there.
That's the only way I can everexplain that.
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, we'regoing to the time.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But anyway, but yeah, yeah, so it's wild.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Nutrition food.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Food.
So, belinda, when you werestarting out, what was your food
like?
Or how did you navigate?
So when you were on Ozempic,was that nearly two years ago
now?
Would it have been so when you?

Speaker 1 (23:29):
were on Ozempic.
Was that nearly two years agonow?
Oh, it's over two years.
Two years and going into mythird month as well.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Okay, so if you can remember back that month one,
where was your head?
At in relation to food.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
So if you could show a picture here now, you would
know exactly where my head wasat when I started olympic um,
because, uh, I didn't.
Uh, to be honest with you, I Idon't even know how to explain
it yeah, I was in the depths ofdespair with nutrition, with
food.
I had completely given up onmyself.

(24:11):
I thought that there wasabsolutely no way that this was
going to ever happen for me, soI just stopped trying.
And then I took Ozempic, andnow it worked for me pretty
quick as well.
I started feeling the changesin that, and then what happened
to me was I didn't change mydiet very much, um, but I think

(24:34):
the catalyst for change for mewas one day I was running in the
door, um, coming home from workor wherever I was coming from,
and usually running in the doorat that time I would have this
insatiable hunger and I wouldjust put anything in my mouth,
like the millions of otherpeople out there, like getting
into the bread bring, gettinginto the fridge, the cupboards,
whatever eating while you'recooking, um, and one day I

(24:57):
walked in the door and that wasgone okay, so that in turn gave
me the space in my brain to makea better decision in that
moment, and that is what changedfor me.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
That was the big catalyst that changed for me,
yeah, and what about you, paddy?
Um, you see, any time I havetried to lose weight before, I
have normally been pretty goodwith changing my nutrition from

(25:32):
day one.
So that that is something.
I think that's one of thethings, maybe because and again
for folks that might know, um, Idon't mention before, but I'm a
qualified personal trainer andas part of that as well, you do
become a qualified nutritionalcoach or nutritionist, whatever
word you want not a dietitian.
That's why personal trainerspersonal trainers, not

(25:52):
dietitians, unless, of course,they've gone and got a
registered dietitianqualification as well, which
very few have.
That is not to say that thereare some personal trainers out
there who don't have excellentknowledge.
They absolutely do, I'd like.
I'd like to think my knowledgeis is pretty strong in terms of
nutrition yeah, no, it's greatyeah the difference is is that a
registered dietitian has goneand spent years studying, like

(26:15):
literally, the science ofnutrition within humans, like
they've spent years dedicated toit and they're qualified, but
more so they're insured, to dobespoke nutritional protocols
for people, ie, if you have amedical condition on an
individual basis.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
If you have a medical condition, you can go to a
dietitian and they can prescribeyou an eating approach.
And nutritionists a anyone thatis not a registered dietitian.
Okay, essentially that is usingnutritional coach nutrition,
whatever they are not insured todo nutritional, bespoke
nutritional, say, eating plansand stuff like that for you.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
So, like I couldn't go to you, belinda, like here is
a bespoke seven day eating planjust for you, belinda, based on
your metabolism.
That's not to say that there'san awful lot of personal
trainers that don't do that, ok,and look, that's their call.
However, what I could do is heyBelinda, hey belinda.

(27:14):
So, okay, you're looking to tryand lose weight, you are okay.
Where are you on thismedication?
That would mean that you know.
Here's the food kind of groupsthat I would like you to focus
on here is the, maybe the, theamounts of food, um, or
macronutrients, whatever thatcould be useful for you to aim
towards on like a day-to-daybasis or stuff like that, um.

(27:34):
So it's more so a yeah, more soa general kind of nudge and
kind of coaching approach.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So it is about nutrition and opening up a new
line of maybe foods for you, Isuppose as well, yeah, yeah,
yeah, so there is some nuancethere um what was the question,
patty?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I asked you how you found it um, not like us to go
off on a tangent?
Yeah, no, you were saying yeahno, you were saying that.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Um, usually you changed your nutrition quite
quickly when you were startingto diet.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, because of your knowledge yeah, so I had
already changed.
I was already focusing on kindof higher protein foods.
Um, I will say I probablywasn't focusing as much as I
should have, though, on fiber,so that was definitely something
that I did kind of tweak.
It's huge now when you're on aglp1 medication huge 30 grams a
day and the other thing is Iwould have been a little bit in

(28:28):
the mindset of this old schoolway of thinking called if it
fits your macros.
So if it fits your macros ispretty much and it works
brilliant for some people andand it can be effective, but not
when you have a poorrelationship with food.
It's not the right approachbecause it basically says you
can eat anything once you hityour macro nutrients and so it

(28:49):
can be effective.
I'm not going to knock out, itabsolutely can eat anything once
you hit your macro nutrientsand so it can be effective.
I'm not going to knock out, itabsolutely can be effective if
you're on a.
But for folks that have a poorrelationship with food, it's not
probably going to be the thehealthiest approach.
Starting out, because I?

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I only came across that, if it fits your macro,
this is some kind of acronym forit, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (29:07):
when I was doing keto .

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yes when I was doing keto, there was an awful lot of
people that were up in armsabout keto, that were going and
changing to if it's your, mymacros or whatever um, but I I
wouldn't recommend that foranybody, because the calories
that are in a mars bar say whatI don't know, I don't know 400
calories in a Mars bar.

(29:30):
That's not the same as 400calories worth of mixed veg and
mixed fruit.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I mean.
So if you fit your macros, itkind of delves in a little bit
more, as opposed to justcalories, in terms of yes, and
sugars and fibres and everythinghere's the specific proteins,
the specific fat and thespecific carbohydrates you need
to eat.
But absolutely like if you'relooking at, say you have a goal
of I don't know just stop myhead, so I don't know 150 grams

(29:57):
of carbohydrates and you'relooking at that from, say, your
mars bar versus like a big,massive dinner that has a load
of edge and you know all thatkind of stuff in it.
Whilst calorie wise they mightbe the same and whilst
macronutrient wise they may lookthe same, number wise, the

(30:17):
impact of those on your body andhow supportive they are of your
weight loss journey aredrastically different yeah, very
different, yeah, and we knowthat that's just.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
That's just common sense in itself, though, isn't
it?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
It is If you have it.
Not everyone has it.
And this is the thing like somepeople will think, and I can
understand why they might belike oh, but if I'm aiming for,
say, 1,800 calories a day, sure,1,800 calories a day is 1,800
calories a day, and in themathematics of weight loss it is

(30:52):
, but in the science of healthand nutrition it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Very different.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Very different.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
It's not just calories in, calories out.
It really isn't.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
If you're focusing on overall optimum health for your
body.
It's not.
It's not no.
No, and this is where you canget into a lot of kind of oh god
, oh, I won't say arguments, butlike there is a lot of two,
conversations pattyconversations, depending on
where personal trainers headsare, in relation to nutrition

(31:23):
and this kind of stuff, um.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
But I think me and you are both lined in terms of
that, um, health first andtrying trying to, you know, look
after your body as much as youcan, you know now, the other
thing I was going to say, onthat as well, was that I know we
spoke about this as well, butthe slimming rooms that we I
would have sat in, um, I wouldhave eaten a lot of trash food

(31:46):
in there because I would havebeen eating my sins and I would
have been getting like havingall of the.
I would try and get in as muchjunk food as I could crisps and
chocolate and all that kind ofstuff within my sin or whatever
points or whatever.
It was, um, but I don't know.
It's a very, very differentstory now, you know yeah, and I

(32:09):
think it's.
It is predominantly as well.
Pardon me, I don't want to makemyself sick, I don't want to
have a sore stomach, I don'twant to have gastric issues and
all that kind of stuff.
But again it's about being able, this medication being able to
give me and you and everybodyelse the space to make better
nutritional decisions, becauseit stops that mad, mad hunger

(32:33):
and that was the difference forme in terms of every time I try
and lose weight.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I could do the healthy eating, but the food
noise was there, belinda, yeah,and that ultimately, ultimately
everything single time is whatcaused me to relapse.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
So this is where I would have done the effort of
tracking every single minusculething I would have eaten and a
hundred times better thaneverybody else around you,
absolutely, and been more activethan everybody else around you.
I killed myself.
I murdered myself for years,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And that's why, when I learned of this idea of food
noise, I was like wait a minute,what Fucking?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
crazy, what, what a fucking concept.
Excuse my language.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You're telling me not everybody lives with this.
What?

Speaker 1 (33:24):
What Is that not?
What goes on in everybody'shead minute by minute, every day
?
No, belle, no.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
No, Paddy.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
That blew my mind.
Blew my mind Because I used tolook at people.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Paddy and I used to think to myself how are they
pushing their plate away?
How are they stopping thatchocolate in the fridge?
And that bottle of wine?
What yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So that was the difference.
So, yes, and as we've saidbefore, people that have tried
to lose weight, you know,multiple times, over many years,
typically their knowledge ofnutrition is going to be head
and shoulders above the averageperson who hasn't have to.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
But you know what I don't understand, paddy, right,
when you look at the grandscheme of things, the amount of
diets you've been on, the amountof clubs you've been on, the
amount of things that you'vetried and myself and millions
and billions of people out therewhy in the name of God have we
just realised what the fuck waswrong with people?

(34:23):
Why is this concept only comeabout now?
It's 2025.
Yeah, what the hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Our lives would have been so much different.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
It is it is fascinating, like it's.
Yeah, and I was watching adocumentary the other day.
I can't remember what I was.
No, that's a lie, I was readinga book and stop lying I know
it's chronic and they weretalking about um GLP-1
medications to adolescents thathave this disease of obesity and

(34:55):
that have this food noise intheir brain, and I literally and
I know I might get likeslaughtered for this, but I
don't give a shit, it's myopinion is that, yes, if there
is a child that had the samegoddamn life as I did and you
did stick it in his eye yeah,it's 100% yeah, it's like it's

(35:18):
one, because I was.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I was asked this as part of the, the TV show that's
coming out sometime over thecoming weeks oh yeah, that's
really soon yeah, I don't havean air date yet for it, but um,
but we can start advertising it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Can't we push in it once there is an air date out?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
or we have to wait till it's publicized uh, once
rte or the presenter sharesomething on their social media,
then yeah you can do it, andthen I'll do it.
Okay, I'm so excited yeah, butum, there was a discussion there
um about children, adolescentsand stuff like that, and it's
part of the opera documentary aswell actually, of course, yeah

(35:57):
and like.
for me, like and I know I thinkwe touched on this in one of the
previous ones where my head isat is that I don't know enough
about adolescents and hormonesand any potential impact and
stuff like that to be just like,yeah, just give it to them, but
equally and this is the way Iworded it in the show what's the
alternative.

(36:18):
I know that, but again, this iswhere I'm saying I don't have
enough knowledge to say.
But if you were to ask 12 yearold Paddy, hey, there's this
thing that could stop you beingbullied for the next whatever x
number of years in school andthat could support you maybe
doing pe and not feeling shamed,and they could help you wear

(36:41):
some of the clothes that theother boys are not get bullied,
exactly yeah like you know, 12year old paddy probably would
have jumped at that.
Yeah 12 year old Belle wouldhave stuck it in her arm?
Yeah, definitely so like that'smy kind of answer, I guess for
that is that.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah.
But that's only on a personallevel, like you don't have to
know everything about everythingto have a personal kind of
thing on it, I would have takenit.
Have a personal kind of thingon it, I would have taken it and
I you know, and I think if mymother had known what was what
my life was going to be like andwhat, what?

(37:18):
Now I'm not saying my life isfucking horrendous right time
but it could have been thatlittle bit better.
Better without the disease ofobesity.
I think my mother probablywould have made that choice for
me as well, you know, becauseshe would have struggled as well
there is trials ongoing, arestarting soon or whatever um
about pediatric use of thismedication as well so that'll be

(37:39):
interesting to see what kind ofhappens

Speaker 2 (37:42):
with that, so with the knowledge that we have now,
and if someone because I'm justlooking for some questions, yeah
, some of the questions that Ikind of got as well, like on
this one, I put up, by the way,the person on Instagram is.
So context here.
Folks, somebody replied tosomething on Instagram publicly
and I replied back because thequestion just triggered me a

(38:05):
little bit.
I was like, oh, that's an oddthing that they've said, and I
was like, oh my, oh, my usual,oh, what's your doctor say?
And like they just like addinto me and I was like, yeah,
I'm not trying to, I'm literallynot trying to shame you, I'm
just trying to make sure thatyou're getting right.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, you're like your response was so genuine as
well, because I do want to helppeople, but literally I don't
know what.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
There seems to be two totally different conversations
happening, because anyway,social media is a wild place.
All I'm saying We'll come backwith two more replies or
something.
Some of the questions weredoopie, doopie, doopie doo.
How to stop protein powdertasting disgusting.

(38:46):
I'm trite hurting up on Monjaro, currently on 5mg to calorie
count, or not finding it alloverwhelming, especially after
Christmas.
Just starting out on Monjaro,not too sure what I should be
eating.
Any guidance so we can probablyeasily cover some of that stuff
.
You'll hear us talking a lotabout protein and fibre, protein

(39:10):
and fibre, protein and fibreit's really important being like
the foundation yeah

Speaker 1 (39:16):
and the reason, the reason that we try and push the
whole fibre thing well, I bangon about it incessantly is
because if you're on a GLP-1medication and you get
constipated, I like until Istarted on a GLP-1, I didn't
even you get constipated.
I like until I started on aGLP1, I didn't even know what
constipation was.
I had no fucking clue and Ididn't realize that it could get

(39:38):
so bad.
But literally has this happenedto you, paddy?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Well, you'd be shitting if you get constipated.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Huh.
You'd be shitting if you getconstipated.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
But it can be debilitating, like yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, no, totally, butthis again.
This is why the fiber soimportant, along with the
hydration, do you know?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
so like oh, the hydration is super, super
important, along with the fiber.
Yeah, you have to have them,they go hand in hand do and yeah
, and the normal intake for anadult is 30 grams.
That's what people are.
That's what dieticians wouldsay is 30 grams, 10 grams per
meal, but if you're not eatingthree meals a day, then you try

(40:21):
and do your best, like kiwispears.
Green veggies Chai seeds flaxseeds.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
The like if someone was like in relation to the
person that's.
You know, I'm starting out dayone.
What should I be doing?
Again, keeping in mind whatBelinda said at the start in
terms of don't overwhelmyourself, from like week one, If
you have the headspace to focuson nutrition, brilliant, okay,
or whenever you get to thatspace.
So what you want to be focusingon, what we kind of say is okay

(40:51):
, definitely, look at yourprotein, look at your fibre and
look at your hydration as astarting point, because they're
pre kind of foundational thingsthat will really help you long
term and that really need to besustainable for you.
So they are.
Like in terms of thecarbohydrates, and that I kind
of would work on the basis ofportion size kind of, on

(41:15):
basically a handful or a fifthsize or stuff like that for
different kind of things.
But when I worked with mydietitian at the start we kind
of went through OK, how muchprotein do you think I should be
having?
How many servings ofcarbohydrates, how many servings
of dairy, how many servings offruit, how many servings of
carbohydrates, how many servingsof dairy, how many servings of
fruit, how many servings ofcolorful veggies?

(41:36):
Um, and that's important um,and then other kind of bits and
pieces that could be could bekind of helpful.
So and that's that's exactlywhat your dietitian will help
you with yeah, they are likeit's really worth the money to
have a dietitian absolutely eventhat one appointment just to
kind of go through this stuffwith them get a starting thing.
And the other thing to keep inmind is, if you have health

(41:56):
insurance, a lot of the healthinsurance providers will give
you a free like a dietitianaccess via like virtual
appointments and stuff like that.
So absolutely check that outand they're brilliant, yeah I
had my dietitian in beyond.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Bmi was word and she was yeah, she was absolutely
brilliant.
I remember being on my bedwriting down everything she said
because I was so interested inlike getting knowledge on what I
was supposed to be doing,correctly, you know.
But but she's, she was verygood yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, but yeah, so like your your protein and again
, you can go and look online andlike how much protein should I
be eating, if you're looking fora ballpark kind of figure, like
so.
Again, if I relate it to myself, okay, I'm currently about I
don't see a lot of this stuff isdone in kilos and kilos is the

(42:52):
one that I will go to last whenpeople are asking about my
weight?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
yeah, it's stones pounds, then kilos yeah, I'm
pounds, then stones.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh right, right, right, the doctor, and the
doctor was asking about myweight and I said, oh, pounds or
stones is a kilo.
And I was like, oh, so I did aquick math and I think about
this and I think it was likehalf a kilo out.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So I was like oh, well done.
But so is it.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Two and a half pounds per kilo, 2.5 and roughly in
and in and around the 2.2 ish.
I think it is in and around the2.2-ish.
I think it is.
Hang on, oh, it's all right,2.2.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah so one kilo, oh 2.2, is it?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, one kilo is 2.2 pounds.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
So I'm going to apply this to me just to give you an
idea of like okay, paddy, howmuch protein would you be aiming
for If I was on the assumptionof 115 kilograms in weight?
Okay, for protein paddy wouldbe aiming for, uh, if I was in
the region of, say, 90 to 125grams.

(44:06):
Okay, if I was in that region.
Um, and that would be splitover three meals whatever amount
of meals, whatever, I don'tworry about the number of meals
at all, it's.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It's the number of meals, something I worry about
because I only eat twice a dayyeah, no, the the number of
meals, the timing and that kindof stuff is really I would not
get into the, into the kind ofgrass because the nutrients are
still going into your body, yeah, but also, paddy, people do
worry about it, because Iworried about it where I was

(44:36):
supposed to be getting 110 gramsof protein, but I was only
eating twice a day, so this andthat's.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's fair enough and I can understand that.
But what I'm saying is,sometimes people will be like oh
, do I need to have proteinwithin like half an hour of
doing my workout?
Oh yeah, can I not have acarbohydrate after six o'clock?
That's what I mean.
Don't worry about any of that.
Oh yeah yeah yeah, over a dayor a couple of days can averages
out that sound.
That's grand.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Don't get too caught up in it, but so I've been
what's a what's a really really,really easy way to get your
protein into you okay, so thebest source, again thinking
optimum health, is going to beyour um, your kind of your lean
meats.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Uh, those are kind of like your, your go-to really,
um with whole foods, not yeah.
So protein specifically would be, typically, if it's going to
come from natural source, itwill be because it's your turkey
, your chicken, your fish, uh,your eggs, um, some of your um,
like nuts and seeds and stufflike that as well, um can be a

(45:41):
good source of protein,obviously.
If somebody is a vegan, that'swhere you look at that.
Your tofu, like your um,cottage cheeses, your cork, all
that kind of stuff, yeah, yourbeans, so, so there's, there is
a big selection of food outthere that can be your natural
source of protein.
Now, if I was to try and eat115 grams of protein from those

(46:01):
sources, I could probably do it,but I'd probably get bored and
probably struggle some days toget that.
Like when I started, I shouldhave been aiming for in and
around 150 grams of protein.
I was struggling with that.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
There's no way I'm going to hit that.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
So this is where then people will look at okay, well,
how can I supplement this?
Somehow and, by the way, I'mnot saying you have to.
If you're hitting, you know, ahealthy amount of protein,
that's fantastic, you don't needsupplements okay.
But if that's, that's fantastic, don't you don't?
You don't need supplements okay.
But if you're somebody you'relike, do you know what I keep
hitting?
Like maybe like 50, 60 grams ofprotein.
I just, I just can't get thefood into me.

(46:38):
This is where the likes of likewhat I have here that I'm
drinking at the moment is.
It's a clear protein drink, soit's not one that needs milk.
It's not a really heavydigestive one.
It tastes just like a squash,you, you know, like a diluted
drink, yeah, literally a squash.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Which one have you got there?
You've got what?
Strawberry kiwi and I havepeach tea and my one's got I
think is it 26 grams of protein?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah.
So I got my two-litre container, I put in the stuff in it and
just shook it up and it's likedrinking peach tea.
Now, it's not supposed to bedrank with two litres of water.
It's supposed to be drank witha small I couldn't yeah, but
it's just another way.
It's very strong.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah um, but yeah, so you'd have
your protein powders again likeone of the traditional protein
powders.
So again that one we weretalking about there.
These are clear protein powdersthat are um for water yeah, that
you don't make on milk, sothey're not that kind of milky
kind of one.
But if you're looking kind ofmilky kind of one, but if you're
looking for that milky kind ofone, because again you'll get

(47:44):
your calcium, which will begreat for your bones, and you'll
also get some protein from themilk as well, or you can even
mix it with some protein milkand you can lash a load of fibre
into it as well you could yeah,you could Add a scoop in if you
want to make up like a smoothieor something like that as well.
Like usually, you make up abeast of a smoothie.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, should I just say what I put into it yeah, go
ahead.
So I have half milk, half waterand I have the protein powder,
I have peanut butter powder frommy protein, I have chai seeds,
milled chai seeds, milled flaxseeds, and a frozen banana and I

(48:24):
put a bit of mango in it theother day.
So that is coming up to about17 or 18 grams of fiber with
about 45 grams of protein in ityeah and it's about this size it
lasts you a period of time ohmy god, if I drank it at two, I
barely would eat my dinner yeah,yeah, yeah yeah and it would
take me about an hour to drinkit as well.
So yeah, but it like I use icecream flavoured vanilla, whey

(48:48):
protein powder and it.
Oh my God, I just love it, loveit.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
yeah, I got a chocolate orange flavoured
protein powder, normal proteinpowder that you take with the
milk or whatever, and it's, oh,it's so good.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Beautiful.
Is it so good?
I love protein powders.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The other ways that you can focus on it as well will
be things like there is so manyprotein foods out there now,
like even in Aldi or Lidl.
Like you have protein pizzas,you have yogurts.
You have other drinks, you havebars.
You have yogurts, you haveother drinks, you have bars.
You have biscuits, you haveprotein popcorns protein crisps
like all this.
Anything you can imagine isslapped the word protein on it,

(49:30):
so also be careful yeah, well,that's the thing, because you
still want to be mindful of the,the sugar content and the fat
content somewhat in it.
Um, but um, there are so manyoptions out there in terms of
the protein and again, once,they are the supplementary
sources, as opposed to your fullgo-to, because you do want to

(49:51):
think overall nutrients.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Um, it's kind of, yeah, it's, it's brilliant, then
let's let's just say at thispoint as well, for anyone who's
listened to this and has juststarted out none of this needs
to be done right now.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
None of it, because I can feel how people would feel
if they're listening to me andyou.
We've got so much knowledgebetween us and there's somebody
at home sitting there going ohmy God, am I supposed to be
doing all this?
No, you're not.
No, relax.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Get comfortable with the journey that you're on and
when, when the time, you know.
If it's like a week, two weeks,a month where you're like, okay
, that protein thing I want, Iwant to try and make sure I'm
getting enough now.
And, by the way, actually weshould talk about why protein is
so important and why you dothat, and so, with protein, one
of its key things it does is tohelp look after your muscle

(50:44):
health.
Ok, so that's one thing, andwhen you're on any weight loss
journey, you will inevitablylose some muscle mass, along
with fat, whilst you're losingweight.
Losing weight, what the trialshave shown, specifically for
manjaro, is that about 25percent of the weight that you

(51:06):
lose will come from muscle mass.
So this is why we talk aboutstrength training being so
important, because it will helpto protect your muscle and also,
um, the protein, then, willhelp to look after the muscle
health as well.
So this is one of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
The other one, as well After when you do strength
training.
The protein will help you, yourmuscles to regenerate, won't?
It, it will help them to notregenerate.
What's the word?
I'm looking for Repair.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah.
So when you work out and yourmuscles are sore and all this
kind of stuff, the protein iskind of like the hey, we're here
, we're going to look after you,we're going to mind this muscle
and bring it back, and you know, yeah.
So the protein is reallyimportant for that.
From a nutritional anddigestive perspective, the
reason why protein is soimportant is that it is one of

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the key foods to help you atthat level of fullness which the
medication helps with.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah, that's a huge part for it, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Really important.
Yeah, so like and that's noteven on this medication but any
kind of weight loss journeyprotein is so important because
it just helps you feel fullerfor longer.
You know, it's just one of itsnatural things, so you know and,
it's natural benefits.
Yeah, it is.
It's brilliant, and oftenyou'll hear people talking about
you know being scared of hairloss in this type of journey.

(52:22):
I had somebody ask me aboutthat during the week and I said,
well, usually if you're lookingat that, this is where I'm
looking at Well, are you gettingenough food and enough protein
in?
Actually, you know, becausethat can be a source for again
on any weight loss journey.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, that's what I was just going to say, because
somebody reached out to me aboutthat last week and I put up a
um carousel about it.
And it's just because you're ona glp1 journey and you've lost
five or six stone, it's not thefault of the glp1 medication,
it's because you're, but you'velost six stone or five stone and
that will happen to anybody inany um weight loss journey.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You know it's about the weight loss and not the
medication yeah, and the hairloss can come specifically if
you're not getting enoughnutrients in on that journey.
So that's why you know we saytime and time again this isn't a
diet you want to nourish yourbody yeah, you want to nourish
your body so that your you knowthese things don't happen, these

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side effects that you hearpeople kind of talking about.
Um, then we talk about fiber.
Look at fiber, as we know, interms of digestive health, gut
health, it's it's just like abuilding block that helps your
digestive system and your gutstay healthy, can help you stay
regular, which is so importantas well, because you know your

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bowel movements might not be asfrequent when you're on this
journey, so that's why, whenthey are, you want to just make
sure that they're notuncomfortable, you know, and
that you're kind of doing whatyou can't look after yourself
there.
Um, so some of the other thingsnow that might be interesting.
So, fruit we know fruit isreally really healthy and really
important to eat.
Equally, it's one of the onesyou need to be somewhat mindful

(53:59):
of how much fruit you're gettingin.
So and this is and I want to bereally careful how I say this
I'm not suddenly going to say,well, if you mash a banana, it's
bad for you, okay, that's notwhere this is going trauma yeah,
the reason why I'm saying justbe mindful of the fruit.
So like, if you're aiming foryour, say, five or six portions
of fruit or vegetables, theyshould not be all from fruit.

(54:21):
And the reason is the majorityof fruit will cause spikes in
your blood sugar.
This medication works tocontrol your blood sugar, so if
you're constantly spiking yourblood sugar with a lot of fruit
in it, again it can kind of makeit a little bit more
challenging for how effectivethe medication can be at times.
If you have a high fruit dietand again that was something

(54:43):
that I would have been aware ofbefore.
But even in the discussionswith the dietician they're like
Paddy, out of this kind of fiveor six, I only want you to have
two, maybe three portions offruit.
The rest needs to come fromyour veg.
Get as much colourful veg asyou want.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
That's what I was told.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, so it's just.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
And they were right.
It's a very, very differenttype of sugar, isn't it, to the
processed sugar that you wouldeat?

Speaker 2 (55:07):
So the way it reacts in your, so the sugar in the
fruit on its own will react in asimilar way.
But where the nuance is is that, say, the sugar from a Mars bar
versus the sugar from, say, abanana and a peach and a bowl of
strawberries.
The difference is you'regetting a good amount of fibre

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in that helps with that thatyou're not going to get from a
Mars bar.
So that's where there is thedifference and that's why we're
like look at absolutely, fruitis healthy for you, catch your
fruit in.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
But equally, if you're there like having 10
portions of actually every daymight not be the healthiest
thing for you and for anyone,even in terms of your teeth,
like it's still a lot of sugarand the thing that that, like I
know, I keep banging on about.
But that just brings me back tothe slimming rooms.
As well, like it was just afree-for-all on the yeah, first
yeah all the time fruit, fruit,fruit, and nobody knew why they
weren't losing weight but yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
So I say absolutely I love fruit, I love it, I love
it, I love it.
Do you?

Speaker 1 (56:09):
know a funny thing we were down in Tramore in
Waterford when my brother didyeah we went to Splash World, my
brother and the family andtheir boys and I had such we
were coming off the back of daysof eating and nice food, I had

(56:31):
an uncontrollable urge to havefruit and I had to leave the
boys there and I just went intoAldi and bought a load of
ready-made, chopped up fruit andstuff and it was just so lovely
, just so lovely.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
One of my favourite foods to have, and there's only
one supermarket that I like itfrom.
Ok, because none of the others,whatever way they prepare it,
does not come close.
But Asda, do the chopped upmango, and every time I get it
for the last few years, it isbang on ripe, it is.

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It's not firm, well, it's.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Fleshy.
Oh it's so I bought two bags ofmango the other day, frozen.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
And I took them out about an hour before to put them
in my smoothie and I just I atethem without putting them in my
smoothie, and I just I ate themwithout putting them in my
smoothie.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
it's so nice and mango is one that will help with
keeping you will it?
You're digestive oh my god, ifyou're in need of a little bit
of a SOS to get to the bathroomyeah, yeah, yeah, like mango.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Oh, I didn't know that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
So like the same way, if you have those, the sugar
free foam sweets from I don'tknow Little Orality oh lactulose
?
Yeah, they're working becausethey're so full of sweetener,
and sweetener is a naturallaxative, but the mango is.
You'll know if you've eaten toomuch mango.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah those jellies.
They remind me of no, I won'tsay it, but they're just,
they're just.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
So no good because when people ask me about
constipation, I'd be like, well,look, obviously you can go and
you can get the chemist, you canget something from there, yeah
absolutely.
You know, bear in mind, ifyou're doing that, most
laxatives like that you willneed again because the way they
work.
Or try, if you're getting atreat for yourself, go and have
a few of the sugar-free foamsweets and they're like what I'm

(58:24):
like.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Paddy, did you know that on the back of the full
fuel, is it full fuel bars?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, full fill, yeah .

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Full fill.
There's a warning saying thatthis may cause a laxative effect
.
So any food that is high, fullof sugar.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, sweetener, sweetener.
Any food that is high insweetener or that has sweetener
in it, sorry, will usually havethat warning on it.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah.
Because, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, and again it usually be those types of fat
free or sugar free foods becausein place of the fat and in
place of the sugar.
They replace the taste withsweetener, and that's why they
can be seen as lactobacillus.
Yeah, but obviously you wantyour digestive health coming
from your natural foods to helpkeep you regular as well.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
And that's your safest bet, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah.
So again, that's like ideallythose colourful kind of veggies,
like if you're sitting down andyou're just seeing kind of pale
coloured veg and that's it.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Like carrots and broccoli with cauliflower and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Yeah, you want a colourful selection of
vegetables, as much as you can,as much as you can Get in.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
You know your get in you know your, your peppers and
your five are your fruit andyour vegetables.
Yeah, yeah, it's all.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
It's all common sense , and I know that not everyone's
born with that, so sometimesit's hard and then, obviously,
of your dairy, which is going tobe really important, as we
touched on as well, before,making sure they're in a few
portions that in throughout theday.
Your your milks, your proteindrinks, as we touched on your
yogurts.
Your even your cheeses in thereand stuff like that as a little
treat can be used.
And actually is it?
Aldi, aldi and Little.
Both do a high protein cheese,but one of them has one that is

(01:00:09):
like is it like 10 grams proteinper slice of cheese?

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
or something like that Super Value, do Super Value
have it yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I was like what's this?
And I got it and it tastedexactly like my favourite white
cheddar vintage cheese that Iused to get.
I love cheese patty so much, ohso good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I love cheese.
It's stuffed with wine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
So good, I had some cheese and wine for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Wednesday day With the cranberries in it, and I had
what do you call it?
Chutney?
With that.
The last time I ate it onionmarmalade, like you know, nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I love a bit of brie yeah anyway, yeah, so like
there's the main kind of foodgroups, obviously you need to be
thinking of over your journeywhen you're comfortable.
The other kind of things, yeah,I'd love to what.
What is there other things thata dietitian has ever told you
to take?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
like, there's a lot of talk about electrolytes,
collagen, all these other thingsyeah, no, I will say I did get
collagen, um from aldi, no fromlittles the other day and I got
some pre-workout from littlesand I got my creatine from
littles, um, I the collagen, Iput into my coffee because
that's what people do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I didn't like it yeah , I've never taken collagen
never.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
And the only time I've seen it predominantly the
hype, but it has been people ontiktok, and as soon as I see
everyone, every second video ontiktok, people pushing collagen,
I'm like um yeah, I kind of gotthe collagen and the creatine
off the back of the um kind ofresearch I was doing on brain

(01:01:47):
fog, perimenopause, all thatkind of stuff, um, so that's why
I got that, that's why I gotthe creatine anyway, and the
collagen um won't harm you no,no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
and and that's when, if someone is worried about the
health of their nails or theirhair, collagen is the go-to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, At least you know, and your skin yeah,
especially at our age.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, what do you mean by that?
Especially at our?

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
age?
Well, we're only 42, paddy Wow,only 42.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
You're rude I know my birthday's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
our birthdays are soon.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
You're only going to be turning 43, I'll be turning
49.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
I'll be 50 soon.
God don't be grand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I don't feel like turning 50, but anyway so the
only thing extra that I've beentold to take or guided to take
by a dietitian was a goodmultivitamin right, the only
thing a dietitian advised me totake or guided to take by a
dietitian was a goodmultivitamin.
That's the only thing adietitian advised me to take was
a good multivitamin.
They said you don't have tospend a fortune on it.
Um, and I asked two differentdietitians this.

(01:02:51):
Um one said well, if you'reconfident that you're getting
the nutrients in from your food,don't worry too much about the
multivitamin.
If you're like there's somedays you're struggling to get
your food in, yeah, amultivitamin definitely would be
a good shout.
So a good A to Z multivitamindoesn't have to be a mad,
expensive one.
Yeah, that's kind of the onlyother thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
I wasn't given any advice now from my dietician to
go and do that.
Maybe I should have asked,actually, but have you seen my
stories today, paddy?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
uh, about you've.
You've stories up about somethe bits and pieces you've
bought in the costume in thebreak.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, yeah.
So I've um invested in somereally good um supplements to
help with my um cognitiveability and my brain fog and all
of that.
And I the lady in the store wasin and I suppose she said
you're buying these for to helpyou with, and I went, yeah,

(01:03:45):
brain fog, and she goes right.
I was just saying to her likeback in 2020, paddy, I was
working and I was running threedepartments and.
I was so fucking switched on Icould have been thinking about
1700 things at one time and Iwould have managed all of it,
and I couldn't think of the wordgrass the other day when I was

(01:04:06):
fucking looking at grass.
That's the deterioration, eventhough I'm on HRT and I thought,
well, the HRT is definitelygoing to fix this, but did it?
No, it's fixing everything else, but not this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
So when you say that you were looking at grass, we're
not talking, martha.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Stewart In the field.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Okay, in the field, in the field, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Martha Stewart, doesn't she bloody?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
do magic lessons for big lighters now.
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah, snoop.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Dogg.
Yeah, yeah, there's also a lotof people talk about
electrolytes.
I asked a dietitian aboutelectrolytes.
They're like if you're gettingenough water in and you're
getting, like you know something, a bit of salt in your food and
stuff like that from time totime, or just through the type
of foods you're having orwhatever, don't worry too much
about it, but definitely don'tswear by electrolytes.

(01:04:57):
There's no harm in having them,to be honest.
So you know, if it's the casethat you're struggling.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah, there's a lovely one in Super Value
Connecticut oh yeah, Connecticut.
And it's like, yeah,connecticut is it, yeah, yeah,
and it's down where the healthstuff is and it's by the protein
powder and it's seven euros, Ithink.

(01:05:22):
You get like 10 or 12 in themand they're really nice in your
water.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
I've stopped buying them now because I was using
them as just a drink.
Drink actually with a drink,yeah, yeah, no, totally now,
when I was doing crossfit, and Iwas doing crossfit like three
or four times a week and I wasdrinking a lot of water during
those like really intense workand I was doing this blendinda
like 23, 24 stone.
So that's a whole other story ohmy god, yeah, a lot to carry,
mate yeah, um, so during them,because of how much I was kind

(01:05:49):
of sweating during thoseworkouts and how much hydration
I needed to replace, Idefinitely was taking my
electrolytes during that, duringthat period of time yeah
absolutely, and sometimes Istill would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
If I know I'm going to do a workout or stuff, I
would, but it's not somethingthat I would be overly obsessed
about or worried about yeah, Idid for a little while but I'm
over it now because the price ofthem but, um, when I was on uh,
keto it was there was so muchbuzz around electrolytes yeah,
getting it in that I used tomake my own electrolyte.
I used to fizzy water, um, withlemon juice, apple cider,

(01:06:22):
vinegar salt two different typesof salt oh, no, no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I don't like salt.
I rarely add salt to my food,so I rarely, really not rarely
god, my cousin's a chef and sheabsolutely murders me for using
salt.
She knows who she is if it is,um, maybe, maybe potato, maybe

(01:06:54):
chicken and maybe chips, buteven then not always.
So they're probably the onlykind of foods I'd ever think
about putting salt on why youjust don't like it.
I don't like it.
I don't like salty stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I absolutely love it no and I know I shouldn't, but I
do no, no, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Doesn't appeal to me at all, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
yeah, it is, it is, but yeah, I'm trying to think I
think we've covered most of thequestions that yeah, I think we
have, yeah, yeah, and I think wejust want to be a little bit
mindful as well of everyone outthere that's listening to us and
are just starting out theirjourney, um, just to kind of
take it easy on yourself, um,but do do come back and listen

(01:07:38):
to this when you're ready aswell yeah, the one question this
day actually that we didn'ttouch on is counting calories.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Have you ever counted calories at any stage during
your journey?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
glp what?
Yeah, you have okay yeah, I dipin and dip out of it.
Um, sometimes I do it torefocus myself, if I'm just a
bit kind of not even eating badbut not remembering what I've
eaten.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I do that, then, and to be honest with you, paddy,
for the first time in my lifecalories don't really.
They're not the top of my list.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
When.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I'm looking at my app and I'm inputting all my food
for the day.
It's the last thing I look at.
Yeah, um, because, like thatshake I was talking about
earlier, that could be upwardsof 600 calories, but I I can't
care about that because it'sgiving me so much more, yeah,
than you know 100 and I won'teat like.
I won't eat another seven 800,900 calories in my dinner, but

(01:08:41):
if you're not eating enough, Ithink you definitely need to
start looking at that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, I think yeah, like it's interesting because
every this is going to sound mad.
Every single other weight lossattempt I've done even probably
when I was on Simming World andanything else, I would have
tracked my food religiously inmy fitness pal.

(01:09:08):
I mean religiously this thatwas torture.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Did you find it torture or did you think you
were having a great timeenjoying it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
it became a behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yeah, like I was weighing things to the ground
yeah, yeah, um.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
This is so the the first week of this journey I
tracked it.
Nothing to do calorie wise,though, it was purely just to
see how much protein was Igetting in.
That was the only reason that Idid.
Since then I haven't reallytracked at all, because I don't
want to be taking that approach.
I am much more interested inthat kind of intuitive eating,

(01:09:46):
in terms of listening to my bodywhen it's physically full.
So when I get that hunger pangor that kind of oh yeah, that's
my signal, okay, I'm going toeat, um, and then equally the
same when I'm full, like once Iget that oh, oh, paddy, you're
getting full, or, paddy, you'regoing to be uncomfortable now if
you keep eating this.
That's my cues and it hasn'tset me wrong over the last

(01:10:07):
nearly seven months.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
And did you look into intuitive eating?
Did you know what?
It was before you started doingit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I mean, like I You're obviously aware of Sinead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
aren't you from Intuitive Eating Ireland?
I am, yeah, am yeah, I don'tfollow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
I am aware of the account.
Yeah, the like intuitive eatingin itself is not a new thing.
It's what.
It's the way people who havenot struggled.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
I understand, yeah, but it's trying to get back to
it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I would never be able to practice that.
I tried.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
I bought a to say I would never be able to practice
that I tried.
I bought a book, yeah, but Icouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah, because I think it's.
Listening to that cue from yourbody of am I hungry, am I full?
Is one of the most powerfulthings long term that you can do
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
But, patty, I can only do that now because of the
medication.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah 100, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
I mean, oh like 100, yeah, yeah, yeah no, I know
you're saying it in the contextof I don't count calories
anymore.
I I just listen to my body andI think as well, because you
know enough about nutrition.
You don't need to do and again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
If I wasn't on this medication and if I was
listening to my body, I'd beeating all day because of the
food.
What I'm saying is in thecontext of me being on this
medication.
It allows me the space tolisten to my body.
Are you hungry, are you full?
And, as a result of that, Idon't need to now which we've
touched on calorie count exactly, yeah, yeah so I would say, if

(01:11:41):
you find that it is going to notbe something you obsess about
and that will genuinely help yougive it a go.
However, it's not somethingthat's going to be sustainable
long term for you just keep that, that thing in your mind as
well, like you don't want to bea year down the line yeah,
exactly, and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
It is something that you need to be wary of, that if
you have that kind ofpersonality that you may very
well gotta get obsessed with it.
But you know what, paddy, Ithink, if I think about it hard
enough?
Um, because I was in theslimming room for so long I
never knew what I should havebeen doing what I should have
been eating.
Nobody ever taught me aboutexactly what a calorie was, how

(01:12:24):
many I should be taking in a day.
So when I started on the GLP-1and I did have a bit of space
and I did have a bit of gracearound food and hunger, I
started to get more interestedin the food that I was putting
into my body, because I was ableto do that for the first time
in my life.
You know, um, and I use thecalorie counting on my app as a

(01:12:48):
tool for me to know what's inthe food I'm putting in my mouth
and.
I would never track that foodagain yeah because I now know
the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
The other risk, and something you touched on there
just reminded me of this theother risk is if you think of,
say, somebody like say, if Ithink of myself, I was 24 odd
stone or something like that,you know, and if I was to do my

(01:13:18):
calculator for how many caloriesI kind of needed, or stuff like
that, most people won't believethe answer because Is this a
deficit?
No, well, no in terms of what'sneeded to maintain it.
So I probably would have got anamount at 24 stone based on,
like, my activity and all thatkind of stuff.

(01:13:39):
I would have guessed that mymaintenance calories would have
been something like maybe four,and all that kind of stuff.
I would have guessed that mymaintenance calories would have
been something like maybe fourand a half thousand.
Okay, roughly, yeah, roughly,that's just something off my
head.
That could be way out of theballpark with four and a half
thousand.
That means for me to be in acalorie deficit.
Even anything like three and ahalf thousand would have been a

(01:14:00):
decent deficit.
But if somebody had came to himlike Paddy, you can eat three
and a half thousand caloriesthrough his weight.
I'm like no, no that can't beright.
That can't be right.
I need to be eating a thousand,I need to be eating 500.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
But people that's the mentality.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yes, and this is where sometimes, when people are
like yoloing it, kind oflooking at these things, like I
don't know, you know, feck, thatI'm not going with that, that
looks too high, no-transcript,or sorry, they were like I'm

(01:14:37):
always tired.
And I all say or sorry, theywere like I'm always tired, da,
da, da.
And I was like how much are youeating?
And they were like, oh, I thinkprobably, like you know, about
800, 900 calories.
I was like, first of all, I cantell you now, that's way too
little, way too little.
So I and I don't do thisnormally because it's Okay, tell
me your liberty level, Tell meyour weight, tell me your.

(01:14:58):
So I got a bit of info fromthem and I went back and I said
something like okay, there it is.
I was like okay, I want it.
Like I think you'd becomfortable if you were aiming
for like 2,500, 2,700 calories.
And they were like I don'tbelieve that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Absolutely not, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
But that's body and to make your body work for you.
But this I was like I don't.
I I'm not overly bothered.
If you believe it, I'm tellingyou.
This is the answer you asked meand this is the answer yeah,
and they come back to me about aweek later and they were like,
oh my god, the difference in myenergy levels, my enjoyment of
food, my mood, everything,because I've upped it and it's

(01:15:42):
actually not having an overlydetrimental effect on my, on my
weight loss now, she probablywasn't losing any weight either.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Well she's, yeah do you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
So you know it's um, it's, it's yeah, like there's so
much nutrition, but this isagain what we're saying.
As much as we're talking aboutthings here, you know, the only
person who can really give youyour bespoke insight into what
you specifically should be doingfor your nutrition and your
journey and your medical kind ofwould be a registered dietitian

(01:16:12):
, a kuru id, you know,registered dietitian, or
somebody that is, you know,registered with the dietitian
bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
And you know, if you had given her that advice and a
dietitian had given her thatperson that advice, then she
would have believed thatdietitian.
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah, yeah, but they are.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I always say it.
They're worth it.
Health coaches are worth it aswell, big time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
They're definitely worth that kind of investment in
yourself, and so they're notthe type of thing every week or
every month or anythingwhatsoever.
It could be like you saidearlier patty as well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
You can get it off your insurance as well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Um, even if they're not going to pay for it fully,
they will give you something andthis is where, if you're
getting a medication like, say,ozempic or sexenda, or you know
one of the similar type onesfrom your doctor at the moment,
I would always say ask yourdoctor for a referral to a
dietitian as well, please askyour doctor for a referral to a
dietitian as well because, againdoctors aren't dietitians so

(01:17:07):
they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
No, oh my god.
So yeah, they're not a lot ofthings a lot of doctors.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
There'll be some brilliant ones out there and
again they'll have.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Majority of what I've seen and heard is here's a
leaflet, you know look it,that's the same with the GLP-1
medication, the manjaro,everything that's coming on
board.
No, if they're not getting anyeducation about it, unless
they're turning their computeraround tapping it into google or
wherever they get theirinformation from at the time
while you're sitting there.

(01:17:36):
That was my experience.
When I asked my doctor first,he just pulled around his screen
to do Manjaro cancer in rats.
No, can't have it.
Yeah, oh, ok, well, thanks,yeah, walked out of there.
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
And I guess just maybe think about the other side
of things Then, that there canbe foods that if you have these,
these not to say you can't andnot everyone will, but that some
people might find that theyfeel a bit icky afterwards and
this one we were chatting about,I think, before we came on air
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
So things like high fat yeah high sugar refined
carbohydrates the worst thing iswe'll say high fat and high
sugar, but if you eat a foodthat's high fat and high sugar,
boom, you're dead disclaimeryou're not dead and again, you

(01:18:34):
won't die.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
There are some people that would be fine with this,
but when you're looking atwhat's going to, what has the
greater likelihood of giving yousome discomfort?
It's probably going to be thesetypes of foods and I think yeah
, both both myself and belindacan probably link back to if
we've had days where, like, ourtummy's been a bit like oh, we

(01:18:59):
can probably like and we knowimmediately I had this yesterday
or I had that yesterday orwhatever the case might be, you
know Now I will say the wholething about alcohol as well is
the only way alcohol affected meis because I was eating so
little food when I started outand I was drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
You obviously know what happens everybody knows
what happens when you've no foodin your stomach and things
don't end up well yeah, sothat's a really, really
important thing to remember.
If you're starting out, youhave to eat enough, like if you
are going to take on alcohol andlike.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
The thing is, as far as I'm aware, there isn't any
proven like clinical results tosay how alcohol causes this.
However, if you're somebody, ingeneral alcohol, if you've a
lot of it, can make you feel abit shitty.
And if, again, if you thinkthat this medication slows down
digestion of food and stuff thatyou have, in that typically
alcohol can be high in sugarsand, as a result, high in

(01:20:00):
calories.
So that's why, again, it's a lotof calories as well you can be
like, unless you're going forthings that are like naturally
lower calories.
Like your spirits they'reusually they're usually the best
of a bag, eat whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
It's always a good one whiskey, vodka, gin, tequila
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
They'd be kind of some of the ones that would
typically be the clear ones arethe yeah and again, drink
responsibly, oh yeah, drinkresponsibly everybody Drink
responsibly.
I don't drink a huge amountmyself.
No, you don't.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You inspired me.
Actually, paddy, you were theone that inspired me.
I think I told you that already, didn't I?
Yeah, that's nice.
So when did I stop?
When did I give that over?
Then, I think around the 14thof December like that yeah yeah,
I stopped drinking um the 14thto 15th of December and I joined
the gym the same time I know,yeah, and I thought to myself

(01:20:51):
look, just fucking, if you'regonna do it, just do it, dive in
.
Yeah, and I've got um, I paid upfor a six week kind of
introduction thing and they didmy what the body thing?
You were talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
What is it your body composite, your in body?
It's called In body, it'scalled yeah, your body
composition thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
So I won't do that again now, till the six weeks is
over.
Yeah, yeah so that'd be good,and I haven't gotten my bloods
from my doctor either, yet Ikeep forgetting to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Probably the snow.
So this week in Ireland, well,oh, no, yeah, this week in the
bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Well, not for Paddy, for Belinda absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
So, depending on when you're listening to this
podcast, there's been snow inIreland this week, in the bottom
half of Ireland.
I love snow and I'm gutted thatwe didn't get any up here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Royalive right of.
Yeah, you're up north, yeah,but the kids are, uh, the kids
are off school.
Kids were supposed to go backto school on monday and we got
snowed in.
No school today and there's.
We thought they'd go backtomorrow, but no, they're snowed
in again tomorrow and the gym,the pilates, the swimming pool,
they're all closed.
There's no bread to be got,there's no milk to be got

(01:21:58):
there's no toilet roll to be got.
It's chronic and, lads, if youhave ever lived in any other
country that suffers from snowstorms, there's like three
inches of snow on our groundyeah, yeah, it's gas, it's wild,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
And then there's all this drama on facebook of the
different weather channelsbitching about oh, you shouldn't
be saying this and youshouldn't be saying that, you
shouldn't be other about, oh,you shouldn't be saying this and
you shouldn't be saying thatyou shouldn't be doing this one,
you shouldn't be doing this.
And I was like, oh my god, getme popcorn there's only one man,
though.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
There's only one man, and that's the Carlo Weatherman
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Oh, it's yeah, isn't Alan.
Is Alan from Carlo Weatherman?
Yeah, it's yeah.
So I couldn't believe readingthis drama like on one of the
posts, but anyway, so that'swhat's been going on this week
in Ireland, kind of weather-wiseand stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Now I will say that everybody's electricity bill and
oil bill and gas bill is goingto be up in the moon.
Paddy, it's not been off.
No same here, I keep screamingat the kids to put on your
snooty, put on fluffy socks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
You see, I put on fluffy socks.
You see, I am and I've saidthis before I live 99.9% of my
time in shorts and t-shirt doyou?
Yeah oh my god oh god, yeah, nomatter what, you're such a
weirdo, paddy.
Yeah, no, 100%, like it's raremy brother-in-law does that yeah
, it's rare I'm not in shorts,but then that means even in this
weather I'm like, oh, it's cold, I better put the heating on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Turn on the heating.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
So the heating has been on.
I boxed the head off you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
They're sneaking around my house turning on the
heating.
I'm not even aware of it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Yeah, all day, like I wouldn't be, like I'll go and
put on like a pair of likethermal tracks of bottoms and a
hoodie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Oh, just no, no, no, no Are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Just no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Are you gas or oil?

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
All gas.
All gas, we're gas Gas fire gascooking, yeah, gas heating.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, same.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Yeah, which is handy when the electricity goes though
.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Yes, true, the cooker defo.
Yes, yeah, yeah, because youcan still cook, still have heat,
and the thing is as well, Ithink, because you're not
actually calling to come out andput a ton of oil into your tank
.
Yes, yeah, you get a little bitkind of blasé about it, don't?

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
you yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so nice having likeinstant fire.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I think the government is helping us out.
This month is it in January?
Getting some fuel allowance?
Every house in the country orsomething Is that this month
again, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
I hope it is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I could do it a few more so I'm back with my
strength coach Max this week onThursday.
Excellent, lovely.
We've had like a two.
Actually it'll be calendar wise.
I think it'll nearly be three.
It's two weeks on the calendar,but I think from day to day
it's actually nearly three weekssince I've last seen him.
So I'm a bit nervous about that.

(01:24:38):
Just get excited you'll begreat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
You've missed it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I'd say though I have , yeah, I have, like I mean
there's also things, oh, mystrength and whatever.
But anyway, the other thingthat I've been doing since the
1st of January is I have beenwalking jogging you have, you
have every day, yeah so everyday, yeah, so every day during
january I am walking or joggingfive kilometers, which is 3.9

(01:25:05):
miles, in aid of women's aid.
So women's aid is a charity thathelps to support, uh, women and
children that are victims ofdomestic violence.
And this, like I've thinkingit's the first fundraiser I've
kind of done in any year, really, and I always wanted to do one

(01:25:26):
that was in some way female kindof related.
And, as I think I said to youbefore, belinda, the reason for
that is because, like 90% ofyour demographic and the
audience on all of my pages isfemale and so that means the
majority of the support I've hadsince biggest loser days has
always been female.
So I felt a very strongaffinity to want to do something

(01:25:48):
for that type of charity andyou put your go fund me link up
every day, don't you?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
when you're, when you're finished your run?
So if anybody does want to dothat, um help out.
That'd be really good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, so I set the initial goal of like 500 euro.
I've broken through that 500euro, so I am putting up to 750.
Now.
Obviously, be great if I hitthe thousand ultimately.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Thousand.
Wouldn't it be amazing.
I must share it again thisevening for you.
Actually, It'd be amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I was looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Yeah, something random happened earlier where
the page wasn't loading earlier,where the page wasn't loading,
but it seemed well, it happenedto me the other day as well it
wouldn't twice now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, I don't know why, so I just yeah, thanks,
love, revolut love my brotherand his wife.
No revolut don't get peoplethey don't revolut yeah, I'm
just checking.
Here is the yes, it's still,it's, it's working it, it's
working, but anyway, Belinda.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Final thoughts.
Paddy, what are your finalthoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
My final thoughts are don't overcomplicate your
nutrition.
The foundation for success isreally about keeping it simple
and absolutely.
You can still enjoy some ofthose nice things you know yeah,
and focus on the small things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Focus on what you can add in as opposed to what you
can take out, okay, and you know, just kind of celebrate the
little small goals that you'resmashing as well, like the
non-scale victories NSV, isn'tthat what they call them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Yeah.
You know, what is go on?
This is the last thing I'll askyou.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
Go on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
What is your current favourite meal to have?

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Yes, my score is so boring, paddy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
No, it's okay go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I have this thing where I do a big, massive basin
of vegetables I chop up like thetable's full of vegetables.
I chop them all up, I put themin a basin, put some um oil on
them and some uh herbs and Iportion them out and I freeze
them and peg about that size.
I just put them in the airfryer from frozen with salmon.
I just love it.

(01:28:07):
I just love it.
Salmon or chicken, a bit ofchilli sauce or something Like a
bucket of it and that kind ofkeeps me going.
Then what's your favourite?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Again, it's not something that's going to be
really exciting, Like I'd loveto say, oh nice, big juicy steak
and like garlic.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
But I don't, yeah no.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
It is.
There is a shop in town thatdoes a diced up salad.
So I do Salad, yeah, so I do alittle slant on it.
They do this kind of turkey,turkey, power turkey, something
it has like turkey in it.
It has like al dente, almostraw, actually, like tender, thin

(01:28:45):
broccoli.
It has peppers, it has a hardboiled egg, so all this kind of
stuff a few nuts and seeds inthere and it'll be lovely all
this kind of stuff.
So it has that in it.
And then I do get it's meant tocome with sweet chilli sauce.
But I do get it's meant to comewith sweet chilli sauce, but I
always get them to swap thesweet chilli for my chicken
Caesar.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah, well, we love that, don't we?

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Dice it all up and oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
God, savage it into you.
Get it into you, cynthia, solike a.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Caesar salad, chicken Caesar, turkey Caesar Like.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
What are you having for your tea, Paddy?

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
So I had a large lunch.
It's what are you having foryour tea, paddy em?
So I had a large lunch is it 10to 8?

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
I haven't eaten my dinner yet yeah, I had em.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
I had three poached eggs on sourdough bread, em with
some crispy bacon love that foryou, yeah.
I'm having a roast beef dinner.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
I know it's very late now, but I'll try and get it
into me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Yeah, no, we went out for some food and that's what I
got and it was gorgeous.
But if I was, oh, I have one ofthe kind of fit meals like a
chicken katsu curry.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Yeah, fit meals, love katsu curry.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Love katsu curry.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Yeah, love it Off curry for the minute though, but
yeah, okay, why are you offcurry?
Because it was the last thing Iate before I got digestive
issues over the new year.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Okay, okay, was it a turkey curry?

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
No, it wasn't.
It was from Marks and Spencer'sactually.
And yeah, but I'm sure itwasn't that, it was just the
culmination of everything wedon't have Marks and Spencers up
here not a lot of people doyeah we're very lucky, we have
one in Clonmel yeah, unless I goto just over the border,
inniskillen.
I was going to say you'd haveone in Inniskillen, wouldn't you

(01:30:35):
?
Yeah, you're so lucky you liveup there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Belinda.
As always, paddy, it's been apleasure it's been an absolute
pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Mate couldn't have done it without you yeah, it's
been thanks for all your hardwork it's been a tasty pleasure
yeah how's that tea bag?
Oh, it's frowned.
Would you drink your tea withmilk with the tea bag in it
country folk do that.
No, you're a country folk.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Would you drink your tea with milk with the tea bag
in it?
Country folk do that.
No, you're a country folk.
Yeah, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Are you country folk?
Yeah, Sean does it.
It's awful.
I am country folk.
Sean runs country.
Very different.
No.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I don't no, with one of these ones, you would.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
With peppermint tea, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Pepperm.
Oh, this is the poca tea bags.
It's chamomile honey andsomething else it's really nice.
It's in the purple box they doa lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
I don't know if it's a poca, but there's one that's
like fennel and licorice orsomething like that no, thank
you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Oh my good god, oh my lord.
Okay, time to say goodbye.
Now dance us out.
Paddy, you got this go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Oh fuck we'll talk to you next week, love it.

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