Time to say goodbye 😔 Paddys WOW moment this week & Belindas amazing transformation continues

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We celebrate the end of this period of the The Dose, reflecting on our podcast's evolution, listener engagement, and significant learnings. The episode emphasizes the importance of professional guidance in health conversations and invites listeners to share their journeys for future episodes. 

• Eli Lilly respond to our request for info on the release of Mounjaro in Ireland and other questions 
• Paddy shares an update on his experience of two weeks since his last dose of treatment - include one massive learning thats pretty profound
• Belinda shares an amazing update on her success with her continuing journey into movement and exercise. 
• Celebrating 20 episodes and 13,000 downloads, discussing listener engagement and community impact 
• Our plans for whats next a little and an invite to our community to get in touch

Plus lots of other randomness, laughs and the bitta craic! 

Combined Paddy & Belindas weight loss totals over 170lbs supported by GLP1 Medications Ozempic & Mounjaro.

None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice or promotion towards any specific treatment or medication - this is a sharing of a personal journey. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare.

We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer / Nutritional Coach  and is also an Assoc. member of the National Union of Journalists. 

Find Paddy Here:
•Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/adoseofpaddy
•TikTok: @adoseofpaddy

Find Belinda Here:
•Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/GLP1.Insights /⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
•TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@bells.mj.insights

Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Thank you and you are very welcome back, belinda.
I got the proper music thisweek.
So proud of you, I know, I know.
So proud.
Sometimes I like actually amazemyself that I remember to do
things and I'm still in Studio 2.
I actually moved everything inhere like half an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Studio 2, I'm on my landing.
That's my studio.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Studio do oh Paddydy you're funny it's our end of
season wrap party.
Oh, we should have like partyhats and sweets and stuff.
Yeah, we should have no.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Listen, I just put a post up on Instagram.
It's fine, that'll do.
Alright.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Ok, I still have this frog in my throat.
I have it like months now, it'sjust not going.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I wonder what it's going.
Maybe you should go and seeyour doctor.
Always consult your doctor,paddy.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I know, but like, maybe I'm just talking too much
yeah that's almost a god damnpossibility.
I don't know how you don't havelike a whole toad in your
throat anyway, I heard thatBelinda Belinda people some
people mightn might realise this, but this is our final episode

(01:50):
of the Dose with Paddy andBelinda for season one.
Haha, haha, for season one.
For season one, yeah, how many?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
how many is this?
Is this our 20th?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
20, 20 something.
Yeah, 20 something yeah 20ish.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
They're about yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Which is mad?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
9th of October was our first one that we released.
And how long do you think thatwe were speaking to each other?
I don't even remember ever orhow we even got speaking to each
other, Paddy.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It wouldn't have been , like it wasn't a huge amount
of time speaking to each other,patty, it wouldn't have been
like it wasn't a huge amount oftime.
Like there is literally a, avoice note somewhere in our
whatsapps whereby whereby youhad said about maybe doing a
podcast.
I had been thinking at theexact same time about, oh, I

(02:42):
wonder, you know, I had wantedto do a podcast and I had set up
one but not launched.
It called MJ and Me.
Oh yeah, but I never didanything with it.
I was going to, but then Inever did.
And then when you said it, andthen when I said it and I was
like, oh, my God, why not?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
But I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
So here it is.
So that was when we did ourfirst one the excitement from
you yeah, from like the 12th.
Oh my God, we've got a podcastlive.
Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
From.
When.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
That's like start of October, way back, it's mad.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that on Instagram?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
No, no Way back.
It's mad.
Is that on Instagram?
No, no on WhatsApp.
And then us getting excitedthen because we were like oh my
God, we're like top 100.
Oh my God, we went top 70.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
We're top 50.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, oh my God, we're top 20 in Ireland for like
health and fitness podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
And then it just like it went crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
After that it went to top three and everything,
didn't it like I can't remember,like it's gotten to the stage
now where I actually don't go inand really check the charts
much anymore, because I knowthrough other channels how much
look at that amount of voicenotes be careful what you're
showing.
Be careful what you're on somekind of fucking rant to get

(04:05):
cancelled um if we haven'talready been.
Yeah yeah, yeah, well but but um, like we never imagined imagine
, like our first few podcastsback in october were instagram
lives with horrific audio yeah,I sounded like I was in a crisp
packet, talking out of a crisppacket.

(04:26):
Yeah, and we were just kind ofdoing Q&As.
We were talking a little bitabout our journey, we were just
trying to figure things out, andthen, oh God, trying to get the
audio from Instagram to edit it, to put it out and all this
kind of stuff.
So we have come on an awfullong way since then.
Like you didn't even have amicrophone.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Exactly yeah, I was using this tiny little thing
that I'd bought off Amazon orsomething wasn't I to try, and
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
And then you got that set.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I still wouldn't know what to do with
any of the background stuff thatyou do.
I just wouldn't and I don'twant to.
I just wouldn't and I don't, Idon't want to, I just don't have
the bandwidth for it.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'll change all that.
Whenever we meet up, I'll belike right Belinda, crash course
.
Audio podcast recording editing.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Did you get the dates ?
That did I send you dates?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I did that we can in true Belinda style.
You sent me random numbers thatI assumed were dates.
So I've been asking Belinda fordates of like, oh, when are we
meeting up?
When are we meeting up?
And I'm like we've been talkingabout this for months and
literally the other day Belindasaid oh, I'll be back to you in
like an hour about somethingelse.
An hour give me an hour and giveme an hour about recording the

(05:40):
podcast or something.
And then she came back and Ijust got this random list of
numbers and I was like what isthis list of numbers?
And I was like, oh, this mustbe.
This message is from theconversation three days ago.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Paddy shut up now.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
And so last week, Belinda, you hung me out to dry
on Instagram because I was a bitlate to the podcast and how you
were sitting in the studio.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I was late, so to the podcast and how you were
sitting in the studio For threefucking hours late, so let's
talk about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So this is Tuesday, and we agreed last week then
that we were going to record apodcast on the Monday anymore.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
yeah, Every Monday from now on, for the rest of our
lives.
The rest of our lives, and itwas written in stone.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, now, today is Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, and here we are recording on a Tuesday and what
happened yesterday.
It was a really busy day,really busy day.
Paddy, Like I don't, know whattook over.
Yeah, I was up the side of amountain as well, now remember.
Well, that's.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Is that a metaphor?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
No mate.
For points and shots Don'tmention shots to me.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
I'm too old for shots .

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Paddy, I'd like four points and it ruined my life
yeah, my whole life, yeah myGLP-1 medication premenopause
and alcohol.
Do not never again like.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I can.
I can now see why you, inDecember, you wanted to reduce
your alcohol intake, not becauseit was problematic, but more so
because it impacts you so much.
Yeah, it's horrendous, paddy.
Yeah, it's horrendous.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
And it's not because of my GLP-1 medication.
It's not because of that at all.
It's the perimenopause, it'sjust the reaction that alcohol
has on me now because of my ageand stuff is just not good and
it takes too much away from it'sstealing time from me.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
But, belinda, you're not that old you're.
What's his 60?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'll be 50 next year, paddy.
Oh, 50 next year.
I'll be 50 next year.
And I tell you one thing thoughI think I had a breakdown when
I turned 30.
I nearly had a mental breakdown, and now I couldn't give a shit
, you're only a young one.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I only feel like a child.
Well, your birth is a few daysbefore mine.
No, yeah, I'm the 14th yeah,I'm the 19th of April, yeah, so
I'm going to be yeah, I'm goingto be 43.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm only 49 now in April, like I'm not 50 to the
following year, oh really yeah,I'm only 49, I'm only 48 now,
I'm only childlike so six yearsbetween us yeah, yeah, you'd
never think it though.
Eight now when you're childlike.
So six years between us.
Yeah, yeah, you'd never thinkit, though You'd never think you
were the younger one.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
At times these roles reverse an awful lot, I know
Anyway.
So the podcast Ending seasonone.
Yeah, so this is the end ofseason one, which and again, I
guess that's part of the reasonwhy, like we're obviously
thinking about, like theevolution of the podcast, like I
think we're both a bit amazedat the engagement we get from it

(08:54):
.
Like I was saying to you justbefore we came on air that, and
again, this is stuff I know youwouldn't see regularly because I
kind of would look at the statsand stuff like that from time
to time, but the podcast is atsince October.
We are at just under 13,000downloads of our podcast 13,000

(09:18):
people downloaded an episode ofour podcast.
So no, so our podcast.
Think of it this way ourpodcasts have been played 13 000
times.
Somebody has gone and hit playon our podcast 13 000 times 13
000 times.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's amazing that's I never, ever, ever, thought
for one minute it would be sowell received and I don't know
what those stats are, umcompared to other podcasts, but
we're a very, very niche um oursituation is very niche.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
There's not a lot of people out there, um, even if
you go looking for a podcastthat are solely about you know
yeah, health and wellness andglp1 medication thrown in there
like yeah, and like I'm amazed,so one of the things that we've
seen over time as well, butmaybe I shouldn't be as amazed

(10:08):
as I am, but in terms of wherepeople are listening from right
oh yeah so I think if we were toask people, people would say oh
, ireland oh, ireland.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, I was so surprised at this but it's not.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Ireland was our top right, okay and we have very
solid listenership in Ireland,but that has definitely been
overtaken now, with the UK beingthe top country that listens to
our podcast and I think that.
I think that in itself issomething for us to keep in mind
as we think about futureseasons and stuff like that, but

(10:40):
then also when we think aboutit.
The third top country and thisbit I've had a few people reach
out from this country isAustralia.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, so like.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I've spoken to for the past two and a half years.
I've spoken to probably maybe20 people from Australia.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, and like even in the past week, I've had
someone literally who saidsomething along the lines of I
love listening to your podcast,it's like a little bit of home
for me.
Yeah, do you know?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you know what as well?
I have had loads of people fromsouth africa as well, and I've
actually I remember sometimelate last year I actually
connected two people over insouth africa that I was talking
to separately and I said wouldyou mind having a?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fantasticlike yeah but um we, we had 2020

(11:23):
from south africa.
That's mad.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Look spain yeah, so like I think the the screenshot
I sent you earlier I think isupdated, but now so like our top
, like five countries that wehave now is uk, ireland,
australia, united states andthen sweden, like that just
blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yeah, sweden.
Who's over there listening tous?
Sweden, if there's anybody outthere that's listening to this.
Please do DM us and we'll giveyou a shout out.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Would IKEA count?
Is IKEA Swedish?
Is that is IKEA from that?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, no, it's Swedish yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Should we do a flat pack podcast that they have to
put together themselves, givethem?
Give them the jingle and a fewwords.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It's definitely not Dutch, so it's not no, no, no,
no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh, now I need to know that in case I'm like
totally miss, like oh god,everything.
I need to know this now.
Oh god, I know what I'm talkingabout anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
So any, any standout moments for you so far with the
podcast I just think the wholething has been a standout moment
really, and the surprise of itbeing so well received by so
many people.
And like, I don't get um emailsor anything about how people
like it.

(12:41):
You get emails but I get quitea few dms.
Yeah, and I don't, and I should, I should tell you when I get
emails, but I get quite a fewDMs and I don't.
I should.
I should tell you when I getthem, but they go out of my head
yeah like immediately really.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But yeah, strange that and yeah, people just love
it you know the listeners andyeah yeah, and IKEA is Sweden,
so we were right there.
I love their meat, I love theirmeatballs and their mashed
potato where would you get that?
And the dime cake.
Have you had the dime cake?
No, I think it's gluten free aswell, if memory serves me,

(13:11):
right oh my god, like, oh, like.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You're talking about going to Ikea in Dublin, or?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah, the meatballs I've never
been to Ikea what.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I know, I know that would give me hives.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, oh, wow.
This is the marketplace in Ikea.
There's Tupperware and moreTupperware and other little bits
and pieces and there's moreTupperware and there's like
You'll get like a 900 set ofTupperware for like five euro
and then you can sit theretrying to put the lids on it.
Oh, I'm a big fan of Ikea.
Ikea, if you're listening,could do some Tupperware for

(13:45):
some meal prep.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Oh my goodness, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
We have listeners in your country.
Ikea, yeah, yeah, other shopsare available to buy Tupperware
from.
I got a.
So in the last podcast we weretalking about how I found a new
bone, belinda.
What is that, sorry, oh, nophones in the studio, Belinda,
but you know what it was.

(14:13):
It was me to remind myself tocheck in.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
No, to check in to see if I got an earlier space in
the gym.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
All right, ok.
Anyway, last week in thepodcast we were talking about
how I found a new bone and,surprisingly, I've had some
messages about this, so I gotwhat bone.
You were here when we recordedthe podcast, belinda, yeah, but
what are you talking about?
We spoke about this in thepodcast the sci-fi process here

(14:45):
at the bottom of my chest,remember about?
We spoke about this in thepodcast the zyphoid process here
at the bottom of my chest.
Remember we had a wholeconversation about this.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh, yes, oh, my god, yeah, I hear you, I was there,
oh, sweet mother of god, oh yes,because you'd lost so much
weight.
Yeah, yeah, we get it.
You're skinny, whatever.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
There has to be some allowance.
I can apply for Carers Podcastcarers allowance.
Love it, I'll go down to thegovernment with that.
So anyway, I got a messageearlier on.
Oh my God, paddy, I was justlistening to the podcast.
I had the exact same thing thisweek with the Zyfide process.
I was laying down and saw thislump and started pressing it,

(15:23):
thinking is it a hernia orsomething?
But it's rock hard, like a bonewhen the zyphoid process
appears to be from anatomicaldrawings.
It freaked me out so much Iwent down to Google rabbit hole
worrying about it.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So oh my god.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's mad.
Yeah, you're not the onlynutcase, sorry, hey.
Don't you dare't talk about ourlisteners yeah, and I think we
need to come up with a name forour listeners, oh, our followers
.
Yeah, because, like I've, likeI've, I've thought about that
before yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I was um, I was listening to help by sex to my
boss and like they have namesfor the people love that podcast
love, love them.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's amazing, they're so funny.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
And then I think what could ours be?
I?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
don't know what do they call.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It's not G&T or.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
They have something really cool, I bet.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, I can't remember now, off the top of my
head, but they do reference itquite a bit.
And then I was thinking wecould have like the P&Bers Put
they do reference it quite a bit, and then I was thinking we
could have, like the P&Bers, putin Belinda's, but I'm sure
there's a better name out there.
so if you're listening to thepodcast and you have an idea for
what we could call ourlisteners, an endearing name to
show our appreciation and a bitof crack DM, any of us at

(16:38):
ozempic underscore insights forBelinda, or at a dose of Paddy
for myself, speaking of which,that is a different name for me
that's right and I wanted tobring it up and remind everybody
.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And Paddy said no, belle, we've covered that.
We did that last week.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
We did, we did.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think people need to be reminded though.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Paddy, ok, ok Because .

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Majaro Paddy was there for so long it was.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, so it there for so long?
You know it was yeah, so it wasthere for like well, it sounds
from the start, seven months, soyeah, so for me, I put a post
up on Instagram about this andmaybe I'll.
How long is it?
Oh yeah, I can read it outmaybe.
Basically, what I said was anew chapter, a new name.
I feel I should have, like, youknow, sad, romantic music or

(17:22):
something like that.
I don't think I have that.
All I have is the rain insteadof this.
Yeah, I only have that music.
What's this one?
Oh it's too upbeat well, I cando it.
I'll do it like a radio ad yeahyeah, do so for people that
don't know, if you haven't heardPaddy advertising before.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
This is great go.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
one of my other jobs is I work in the radio, so I'll
see if I can do this.
Now.
A new chapter, a new name.
Over the past several months,I've been on an incredible
journey of transformation,growth and rediscovery.
I've shed almost 100 pounds,but more than that.
I've gained so much A renewedsense of purpose, confidence and

(18:03):
a deep passion for wellness andadvocacy.
As I continue this journey, Iwant my platform to reflect not
only where I've been, but alsowhere I'm going.
That's why I'm excited to sharemy new name with you all A Dose
of Paddy.
This name isn't just about me.
It's about what I hope to bringto you A regular dose of

(18:25):
transformation, wellness andreal talk.
A space for inspiration,motivation and sharing the ups
and downs of weight loss andwellness and advocacy for those
navigating obesity, fightingstigma and striving for life to
live their best life.
While my focus began with mypersonal weight loss story, I
want to go beyond that and shinea light on the broader topics

(18:47):
of health and wellness beingsorry, well-being, mental,
emotional and physical From tipsand experiences to open
conversations about therealities of obesity and
wellness.
My content will continue togrow, just like I am hopefully
not on the scale.
So thank you to every singleone of you who supports me,
cheers me on and shares your ownstories.

(19:08):
This journey is better becauseof you.
Here's to progress, positivityand showing up as our best
selves every single day throughcompassion, advocacy and
enhanced help.
Welcome to A Dose of Paddy.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Some dose.
Alright, that was some fuckingdose to this.
You know, Jeez Fucking hell,Paddy.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
If you managed to listen to all that fair pitch.
I like that bit actually.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I didn't read it.
I read the first like sevenchapters, and then I did that.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
I'm just going to cut your mic.
Do you know that?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I know, I know, I actually was laughing so much I
had to mute myself.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Mmm, whatever.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
What else are we going to talk about, Paddy?
You fucking don't Stop the shitnow.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is the problem, when I have to control this and
you're like just got to put upand shut up, so anyway, yeah, so
I've changed my name to a doseof Paddy Same on TikTok.
So on TikTok, you have twonames, you see.
You have your profile and yourusername.
My username keeps saying it'supdated, but then it's not
updated when I visually look atit.
So I think there's some visualerror with TikTok itself.

(20:33):
I've raised a ticket did you?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
did you uninstall it and reinstall it again?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
yeah, and try it on different phones and everything,
but anyway, so there's someissues there, but you'll still
find me.
If you search your dose pad,you'll still find me there.
So that is yeah, just obviouslya little play on the word dose
and because Belinda keeps sayingI'm some dose and whatnot, so
yeah, but sorry, I was askingyou, so you've no particular
episode.
Belinda that kind of stands outas your favourite or one you

(20:58):
really enjoyed, or stuff likethat.
I think having Nikki on yeah, Ireally enjoyed that one.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think she's just so insightful as well.
I was very sad that I missedRob, because that was an epic
epic, epic do you know what Ithink, though, as well?
I was kind of half delightedwhen I when I heard it, because
of your conversation as well andI I would have just been
delighted when I heard itbecause of your conversation as
well, and I would have just beentrying to relate to it.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think it turned out as something
special, kind of this one'sabout because you weren't there.
But do you know what?
Because that happens a lot.
Yeah, those conversations,those conversations between two
men, so publicly don't typicallyhappen, you know, those
conversations, thoseconversations between two men,
so publicly don't typicallyhappen, you know.

(21:49):
And actually someone reachedout to me during the week saying
I actually got an email fromactually it was Australia,
believe it or not as well whereI think it was.
Somebody had said I'm trying tofind the podcast about Rob.
So if you go back, it is there,it's still up on the platforms
now and you'll find it, thepodcast about Rob.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
So if you go back, it is there.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's still up on the platforms now, yeah, and you'll
find it talking about bariatricsurgery and ozempic and stuff
like that with Rob Comiskey.
So I thoroughly enjoyed that.
I think for me that was a greatconversation also because just
before I went in to record it,literally as I was about to join
like our recording, I spilledan entire big, massive pint of
drink all over my desk and I waslike, oh my God, but that one

(22:31):
and it turned out okay.
Yeah, it did, and the one that Iput up about stopping Monjaro,
stopping your GLP-1.
The week before yeah, two weeksago that one I got a huge
response from that one Peoplewishing me well, asking
questions, so that's been aninteresting one as well.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
That was a really good one as well.
I actually got text messagesfrom my friends in other
countries saying to me Belle,what's going on?
Is Paddy actually coming off,and I haven't time to listen.
Tell me what's going on.
Yeah, and let's just talk aboutthat for a minute, because your
dose was due when?

(23:14):
So today's Wednesday, tuesdaythe 4th.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
So tomorrow will be as we're recording this, so
tomorrow will be Wednesday the5th.
It'll have been two weeks sinceI took my last dose then.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
So you're?
You're overdue a week, thenoverdue, yes, yeah, and so talk
to us about that, tell us what'sgoing on with you.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So I've had a realization over the weekend
which was a bit profound for meand that sounds very uh well,
but but honestly, that's whatthis journey is, yeah so I now
realize that one of thesensations that I used to have
before not food noise okay,because the food noise has not

(23:58):
come back yet, okay, but thesensation of wanting food in my
body okay, that sensation hascome back.
However, given that I leaned inso intentionally over the last
seven months but wanting tounderstand intuitive eating and
listen to my body and, like Ihaven't tracked during that

(24:20):
seven months, so I regularly andI mentioned this before, but
regularly would let my body getto that point of being
physically hungry where, like Iwould get, say, tummy rumbles
and stuff like that.
So then I I'd know, oh, I'mhungry, you know, and there's
nothing wrong with that.
But what I've now realised isthat the sensation that I've had
all my life, that I interpretedas hunger, isn't necessarily

(24:46):
hunger itself.
It's simply a state of not beingfull yeah which is different,
and it took me a while to sitwith that.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Not feeling full does not mean that you're hungry
exactly and this blew my mind abit over the weekend so,
previous to your GLP-1 journey,would you have wanted to be full
all the time or would you havebeen full all?

(25:17):
The time and if you weren'tfull?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I was never full.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Okay, neither was I.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And now I think I've had this realisation that this
sensation of it's, like thissensation in my stomach, and I
always thought this was hunger.
But now I know, after thatseven months, this sensation is
not hunger, it's simply just astate of not feeling satisfied,

(25:49):
full from the food that I've had.
And a perfect example like theother day I had a big meal,
finished the meal and I satthere and I literally was like I
could eat that entire thingagain.
The fuck, paddy.
Not because, again, I wasnecessarily, as I now know, not
because I was physically hungry,but because I wasn't full.
And now it has me questioning.

(26:10):
For all this time in my life,for so many years, have I
essentially been chasingfullness which I've never been
able to achieve?
is that is that kind of.
I hope that's making sense forpeople 100% it's making sense
and it's so relatable as well,because that's what people talk
about 100%, and I say this isdefinitely separate from that

(26:33):
idea of food noise and I don'tmix it up.
This is where I my my body islike.
I'm not thinking about food allday, every day, like I was
before not yet anyway because,bear in mind, I still have a
level of medication on my bodyyeah, I know you do.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, but this track that on your shot seat.
Do you know what's in there?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, okay, but like this idea of like, once I'm on
my medication, that I will have,say, half a salad and I'll be
full, like I'll feel full.
Over the past I would say sinceThursday of last week so that's
maybe past four or five days orso definitely I've not had that
Anything.
So that's maybe past four orfive days or so, definitely I've

(27:11):
not had that Anything.
It's like I have this void inmy stomach of not being full and
no matter how much food I'mputting in there, it is not
filling that void of lack offullness.
But then again, it's about menow understanding.
But I don't need to feel full,I don't need to be full.
If I know I have eaten a mealthere that is a substantial meal

(27:34):
, I now am rationalised in whenmy body has had enough energy in
that meal.
So I know my body's okay, it'snot going to starve.
But that sensation is stillthere.
That sensation of not beingfull is still there and that's
awkward, or whatever word I wantto use.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, do you feel that you're educated more now
about how your body works thanyou were previous?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I definitely think I have had, through the work I
have done myself in terms ofsitting with, oh, I feel full
from that meal or oh, I feelhungry, am I hungry?
And then actually letting itget a little bit hungrier, like

(28:20):
till I get that tummy rumbles,that's been extremely beneficial
for me, that allowing myself toactually get physically hungry
a bit more frequently so that Ican identify what that signal is
from my body, um, and howdifferent it feels from this
sensation I'm having now.
So I definitely think that issomething that has are you
uncomfortable with that now?
is that making?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
you uncomfortable?
Are you nervous?
Um, I'm, so I would say I'meating more yeah I am eating
more um but, paddy, what I'mtrying to get at is I'm just
trying to put myself in yoursituation.
If I was in your situationright, because I have now I will
hold my hand up and say that Ihave come to depend on this

(29:01):
medication for clarity in mylife yeah so much that it would
it.
It would fucking kill me tohave to come off this.
And I think that because you'vehad these great seven months of
clarity, where the food noisehas gone and the hunger has gone
and you're able to focus onyourself, and listen to your

(29:24):
body's proper hunger cues.
That you must.
Are you a little bit petrifiednow that now I know this isn't
going to last forever?
And obviously as well.
This is.
This is like a little kind ofperiod in time where you get to
see what the difference isbetween off and on like yeah, so
what?
what?
How do you feel about that?
Are you nervous?

(29:45):
Are you petrified?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
can you just I think if I hadn't have had that kind
of mental breakthrough over theweekend about being able to
differentiate this sensationisn't hunger, it's just not full
.
Ok, I think if I hadn't havethat, because Thursday, Friday
into Saturday, I was definitelyworried or like, oh my God, why
is this feeling here?
I've literally just had a bigmeal and like I couldn't, I

(30:08):
couldn't figure it out thosethree days I was like I have
just had a big meal and like Icouldn't, I couldn't figure it
out those three days.
I was like I have just had abig meal and like I could eat
that straight away again.
Why is this?
This doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Were you susceptible to binge eating then, previous
to GLP?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Years ago, right, but I went to therapy for that
Therapy, cbt was it?
Yeah, and that definitelyhelped with that.
That definitely helped, so Iwould say, in terms of the
episodes of binge eating.
That was definitely apsychological response to
situations yeah excuse me, butin terms of constantly going to

(30:43):
the cupboard and picking andeating, that was because I I
just wasn't feeling full.
Yeah, do you know that kind ofthing?
So I think, yeah, so I thinkthat breakthrough over the
weekend of just, oh my God, thissensation yes, I'm not feeling
full like I have done for thelast seven months, but equally,
I'm not hungry with tummyrumbling like I have been.

(31:06):
So therefore, I'm okay, andthat does just mean that I do
have this constant, um, thisconstant sensation in your
stomach of just not being full.
It could be filled and I think,this is where the food noise.
If it comes back for me I don'tknow if it will or not, but
this is where, if that wasbuddied up with that, that
constant thinking of food andthat constant sensation of not

(31:27):
being full, that's where I thinkthe danger zone would be for me
.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, because then it's like not only am I having
this sensation.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I just cannot stop thinking about it.
But like I have tried torationalize myself, like I will
go into, like the other day Iwas um thinking okay, what
practical steps can I take totry and actually physically fill
my stomach?
and this is where, like in termsof bulk of food, and this is

(31:54):
where I went and got my massivechopped salad that I love yeah
and again because there's somuch fiber and so much physical
food density, in that itphysically fills my stomach and
that that's probably the nearestI've gotten out to a sensation
of, oh, I don't need foodimmediately again after that,
but quite soon but is that youtrying to placate yourself?

(32:17):
It's definitely me trying toquiet that sensation of my
stomach.
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying stomach,it might be something here.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, I know, yeah, but essentially you're trying to
talk yourself around.
Yeah, Because I think maybethat because you've had these
seven months, that you're ablenow to kind of what's the word
I'm looking at?
Rationalise it.
Yes, yeah, I'm definitelytrying to control it yeah, but
that's great like, yeah,rationalise control.

(32:45):
Yeah, yeah, because youwouldn't have had that previous.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
But I would love if there's somebody listening to
this and if it's a case thatyou're on a journey, whatever
that looks like for you, andeven just trying to understand
the sensations that you'rehaving because I now realise
that there is definitely.
I could not imagine living therest of my life with this
sensation in my stomach, becausethat would just wreck my head.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
But like as a short term.
You're just managing it for avery short period of time at the
moment, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, yeah, but trying to figure out that
difference between that physicalhunger when your tummy rumbles
and you're definitely like Iwill pass out well, not, I pass
out, but you know what I mean.
Like you're at that point where, like I'm physically really,
really hungry versus I'm justnot full, because I've never had

(33:36):
that realisation before.
I always knew I was never fullbecause I'd never get a
sensation, but I wasn't able topinpoint that as being the
constant sensation.
I always interpreted that asI'm hungry, which I now know
it's not.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
But, paddy, do you think, then, that that's where
your food noise comes from?
It's because you're constantlythinking that you're not full,
and then you're constantlythinking about the food that is
going to make you full, and,essentially, is that food noise?
Well see, this is the thing,and it's different for everybody
.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, Like for me.
I would say that this sensationI'm having definitely is more
of a physical sensation, whereasI think the food noise is more
of a psychological thing.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
But then I think, obviously, I think there is
probably some connection from it?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
There has to be, yeah .

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Like, as we know, one of the things that GLP-1 does
in your body is kind of signalthat you're full and that you're
fuller for longer and all thatkind of stuff, and that when you
have food it signals thatyou're fuller for longer and all
that kind of stuff, and thatwhen you have food it signals
that you're full, you know, fora longer period of time.
And that's what these kind oftreatments do, is they mimic
that for longer.
So I can understand how theycould be all related, but I'm
sure people that are a lot moreeducated than me can probably

(34:42):
give us a scientific answer, butI'd say there's definitely a
correlation?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I don't think so, paddy.
I don't think so.
I think this is a very personalexperience yeah, for everybody,
and I think it differs foreverybody, yeah and I just hope
I'll never have to find out.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, so it's anyway, but like I'm feeling
fine, I've got my surgeon thisThursday.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I got your, my fitness pal, out got my my
fitness pal out.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
yeah, I've been tracking stuff in that Tracking
your weight Tracking my weight.
Yeah, that's all as normal.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll be continuing to do that.
I am like I said this onInstagram last night but like I
am comfortable with if there isan increase in my weight,
because I know, in the grandscheme of seven months, going up

(35:27):
a few pounds for you know,medical reason and stuff like
that do you know what I wouldsay as well to that?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
do you know what I'd say to that as well, paddy, is
that you'll go so hard when youcome off, when you come back on
it.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Yeah, you'll be fine, like so I'm not worrying about
that, because definitely thatwas something that people were
asking me on TikTok live lastnight a big gain, a few pounds.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
If you do, I'm like no no, because you know where
you're going.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
This is this is the long game and like yeah like
I've lost 95.
So even if I, even if I putlike half a stone, like I don't,
like, I'm only totally whateverthis guy it's.
It's irrelevant in the grandscheme of things do you know?
yeah, um particularly during aperiod of time where my body
will need that to help heal andrecover, and you know stuff like

(36:10):
that.
I'm definitely being a lot moremindful of my protein intake
though, because that wassomething on the back of my DEXA
scan which I still have to do avideo about, but that, I think,
highlighted to me that I neededto up my protein as good as I
was being with it.
I think there's definitely roomfor more and that, so I've been
trying to hit my protein and bemore intentional with my
protein intake as well.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, so I have yeah, yeah, good.
And it fills you for longerthen as well, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, I mean I'm still definitely leaning on like
some protein foods and proteinshakes and stuff like that, not
as the main source, butdefinitely as they're intended,
as a supplement to the others tomy other food intake?
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
You're snacking on protein products rather than
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, more so,yeah, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I did a few rhubarb and custard sweets today because
mum had some.
They're gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's okay, it's allowed, they're like
hard-boiled, sweet type ones.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
You know the ones.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
It's good to hear that you'redoing okay and you're having
these realizations, and that youactually Still have the mind
space To be able to think Aboutthings as well, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So continue on as you're going, paddy, we're all
here Cheering you on, thank you,thank you, speaking of cheering
you on and cheering people on,you had your check in With the
gym oh, yeah, yeah, yeah today.
Was that today or yesterday?
today, today, this morning, yeah, my six week checkup so talk us
through, uh, so, if there'ssomeone out there that's

(37:42):
listening.
So first of all, I'm a hugeadvocate that resistance
training, strength training,that that is the priority
training that everybody shouldbe doing when they're on any
weight loss journey.
Even if it's a weight lossjourney just for health and
longevity, you absolutely shouldhave resistance-based training,
weight-based training of someform in your in your life.
Now.
That does not mean thateverybody has to be in a gym

(38:03):
pumping iron and all that kindof stuff, if you can brilliant,
but it absolutely does not meanthat and that's not to say that
cardio doesn't not place as well, but in terms of your muscles,
your bones, your joints, allthat kind of stuff longevity
absolutely.
This is where um the kind ofresistance-based training is so
important.
So take us back to december,like six weeks ago when you

(38:24):
started.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I remember it was the monday december yeah, the week,
the week before christmas,because I remember telling me
yeah, the week before christmasweek.
Yeah, because I remember yousaying me yeah the week before
Christmas week?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, because I remember you saying it to me at
the time and I was thinkingshe's brave starting this before
Christmas.
Yeah, but that's also a greattime to start.
Everyone thought it was mental.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Everyonethought it was mental.
Yeah, so what?
And I?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
stopped drinking like alcohol all the time.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I know socially.
Yeah, so talk us through.
For somebody that is thinking,oh god, I'd feel a bit too
intimidated walking through thedoors of a gym.
How did you, how did you feelgoing in that first day?
Or where was your headache?
Can you recall?

Speaker 1 (39:03):
sure, look, I don't ever feel nervous doing things
like that.
I never feel intimidated oranything like that going into
those places.
I'm always quite, you knowyou're not reserved.
No, not reserved at all.
If you were here and I'll bekicking you under the table like
I'm pretty confident, even when.
I was um like nearly six stoneheavier.

(39:25):
I was pretty confident as well,so I didn't mind going in there,
I didn't mind chatting and Igot a really good vibe from
there, and the thing that drewme to TaylorMade Coaching was it
was a group, it was a smallgroup and their clientele
they've got an awful lot ofwomen and they've got an awful
lot of women that are over theage of 40 as well, so that kind

(39:50):
of drew me to it as well.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Um, and and and next year they'll have more women
over 50 50, they will paddy.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yes, they will paddy.
And um, what was the question?
Oh, what made me do it?
Yeah, I had a really badhangover and it lasted three
days and I thought, fuck thisshit.
And you know what I want yeah,time for a change, and I wanted

(40:21):
to invest not just my time.
I wanted to invest financiallyinto it so it would give me that
push not to go out and drink asmuch as I could over the.
Christmas and all the rest of it, and I thought, at least, if I
invest financially I investfinancially into it because it
was expensive enough, like youknow then I'd be less likely to
fuck it up.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, it worked, yeah , absolutely.
And yeah, that's somethingpeople who say to me.
Like when I was doing personaltraining in person with people
or stuff like that, you'd havepeople that come like I want to
book like 10 blocks or 10sessions with you and I'm like,
really Like you know we can dosomething.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I'm like, no, no, I want to do it because it's paid,
it's done, I'm committed and Ihave to see it through Yep.
Do you know I get that?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I would love to see some workout videos from you
when you're in there likesnippets of you doing your
workouts and stuff.
Yeah, I'd love for yourfollowers to see the type of
workouts you were doing.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I think they'd be really inspired, I did hip
thrusts today and I'm onlystarting and I've always had a
bad back and all the rest of itand I've never done any kind of
strength training like that,especially where my core is
concerned.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
You were saying last week is when we were chatting
that as you were touching therethat you had a bad back, were
you sitting on balls today aswell.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
No, well, I was sitting on balls the last night
when I was doing my weightedsquat.
You had to sit on the ball, youhad to go down so far like
patty shut up so you weresquatting and going down on the
balls, okay yeah sure, look,we've all been there waiting, so

(42:02):
what?
Anyway, my my hip thrusts wereat uh 30 kg today, so it's the
bar I know, I know, I know it'snot to some people.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, no, never say that.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah that's so.
It's a bar, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I know it's not to some people, no never say that
yeah, that's true, it's allrelative to you, yeah, relative
for some people, even bodyweight squats is a massive thing
.
I know people that cannot dobody weight squats because
they're lacking that trust inthemselves that they get back up
.
They're afraid they'll fall.
They lean forward so like neverdiminish your own achievement.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, now I tell you what though, paddy, I tell you
what has stood to me oh.
Jesus, now listen, we weredoing, we swap over.
You know you're working in a,you're having a twosome and
you're swapping over andswapping over.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
And one of the.
Is there like a bowl where youthrow your car keys when you're
going to?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
No mate.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Whole new workout series.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Oh yeah.
So there was this exercise thatwe had to do while the other
person was lifting and you lift,and then, yeah, and it was a
side plank, and I just did it.
I did my side plank, I got upin my my palm and then I put my
hand up as you would, and I wasthe only one that was able to do
that amazing, yeah, because ofmy two and a half years in

(43:26):
pilates yes, yes and all of thathas stood to me like my using
my core, strengthening up mygluteus maximus.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Your backside.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, my arse.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
They are the biggest muscle groups.
That's right, huge.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, but yeah, just to say shout out to my Pilates
instructor, eimear, like sheprepared me for it so much.
We didn't know what she waspreparing me for, but yeah, we
were well prepared and my squatsare awesome Like my squats.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, good, well done .
Yeah, I'm delighted with mylife now.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
That's brilliant, that's really good, oh yeah, and
we got some stats, didn't we?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Oh, yes, you, oh yeah , and we got some stats, didn't
we?

Speaker 1 (44:11):
oh, yes, you did.
Yeah, I did, I got some statsdid you have them?

Speaker 2 (44:15):
oh yeah, sorry this is, this is about you.
This bit, this is your podcast.
We're talking about you like.
I can get them.
I have them.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I know you have and I'm going into our chat so I can
find them oh dear yeah, do weneed some like interlude music
while we're waiting, I don'tknow what any of this means.
So my muscle mass went from32.6 down to 31.3 no, that was

(44:47):
your muscle mass no, it went upyeah, oh, did it go up?
Oh shit, yeah, it went up thegym for six weeks and I lost
muscle.
Let me just start again.
You can edit this out.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I'm not I am not editing this out, so my muscle
mass went from 31.3 to 32.6.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So that's an increase of 1.3, which in Percentage
terms.
Percentage terms would be nearon.
5% of my body has turned tomuscle mass.
Of my body has turned to musclemass.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
So you've seen an increase in your muscle mass in
your body of about 5% in the sixweeks.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, Okay, and then my body fat percentage has gone
down by 2.3 percent in terms ofpercentage points.
Yeah, yeah so overall my bodyfat has gone down by 4.8, let's

(46:01):
say five percent of.
So I went what it was droppedfive percent in body fat and I
gained five percent in bodymuscle.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, so like it's amazing yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Weight stayed absolutely the same nearly.
And as I was saying to youthough, it's not a statistic I'm
worried about now, at thisstage.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
But this is a great example of what we were seeing
earlier true body recomposition,whereby people will freak out
I'm going to the gym, I'm doingthis, I'm doing that.
But you've proven there that,yes, your weight.
You know you had a small dropin your weight there.
However, what you saw was quitea big difference in how that

(46:43):
weight was mean, it was beingmade up, so your body's in a
much healthier place because ofthe increase in both muscle mass
and the reduction in fat that'sactually in your body over
those six weeks, which isamazing, which is fantastic yeah
delighted, so we're going to doit again in four weeks time.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
We're going to do it again then in four weeks time,
after that.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
And see how I'm going .
I have absolutely no interestin the scales now.
That's not what this is about.
I was talking about it on mystories today and I just feel
like there's after this, nowthere's going to be a little bit
of a shift, like you've had alittle bit of a shift as well.
Obviously, my GLB1 content willalways be at the forefront, but

(47:26):
the scales are not mattering tome as much as they would have,
and for me now, it's aboutbuilding muscle mass, making my
body stronger not having to needassistance when I turn 80 in a
couple of years time.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I'll still be waking up to voice, not Paddy, that
bitch.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
When are we?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
recording.
What are we talking about thisweek, paddy?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
paddy, we'll be fucking 90 and we'll still be
injecting ourselves oh god yeah,but listen, we've had such a
good run, haven't we, on seasonone.
It's been brilliant.
We have.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
It really has been amazing.
One of the things beforeChristmas we had reached out to
Eli Lilly looking for somecomment from them in relation to
some questions.
So what I am going to do is tobasically go through the

(48:33):
information that we got from EliLilly and kind of share that
here.
So the so the first questionwas Munjarro has been available
in the UK for almost a year andlicensed EU eu wide for some
time.
The hpra advised that the delayin ireland was due to eli

(48:54):
lilly's.
A marketing strategy couldconfirm if the expected release
in 2025 is set for january or isthere a more detailed timeline
to supply um to irish pharmacies?
So the answer that we've got tome, like lily, is that mungaro
and which is terzepatite andwhich is the kind of the, the
non-brand name of it, the activeingredient, it's currently
available in Northern Irelandand Lily is planning to make

(49:15):
available in the Republic ofIreland for private
prescriptions in Q1 2025.
We've also submitted to the HSEfor reimbursement for both type
2 diabetes and obesity and areworking through that process.
And and I then went on to askcan you share the expected
pricing details for Munjarro inIreland?

(49:36):
So we will be putting the firstmaintenance level dose of five
milligram.
Bear in mind, the 2.5 is a stepup, a starting one.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Explain that the first maintenance dose.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
So the maintenance doses are essentially deemed to
be 5, 10 and 15.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
All right, as apart from the starting dose.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
So we will be putting the first maintenance dose of 5
milligram into the supply chainat a price in the region of
€215 for a four dose pen, ie amonth's supply.
This will be the cost that Lilysupplies the medicine to
distributors at.
Oh no.
Then I asked why is the priceconsiderably higher than the uk

(50:20):
where private prescription costsapproximately 140 pound for a
five milligram pen?
The answer is we believeterzepetide is competitively and
appropriately priced based onthe efficacy of the medicine and
the value it can bring toindividuals, health systems and
society to reduce overalleconomic burden on type 2
diabetes and obesity.
Different prices acrosscountries are dependent on a

(50:42):
variety of factors that differacross countries, including VAT
and market dynamics, and that issomething somebody else
explained to me as well.
Actually, when we were talkingabout this, that there can be, I
said are there any detailsavailable regarding supply
prices to the HSE?
Be?
Um, I said are there anydetails available regarding
supply prices to the hse?
And they've said we've again,we've submitted to the hse for
reimbursement for both type 2diabetes and obesity and are
working through that process.

(51:03):
Um, what is the current statusof the negotiations with the hse
regarding availability?
Um of the treatment outside ofprivate prescriptions.
And again same answer.
We've submitted to the hse forreimbursement for both type 2
diabetes and obesity and areworking through that process.
Um, I was then just curiousabout with um kind of the

(51:26):
triseptide and where it's goingto be currently manufactured,
because we know that there is anew lily facility in ireland and
I was just curious is thatgoing to be, you know, one of
the main sites?
So they just confirmed thatLily manufacturing sites make a
number of different medications.
There isn't just onemanufacturing site for this I
wanted to confirm is it going tobe the same quick pen like that

(51:47):
we have seen in the UK, becauseobviously the USA has a
different?
They?

Speaker 1 (51:51):
have one pen a week, don't they?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
it's one pen a week in the US.
I had that Paddy when Idifferent um.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
They have one pen a week, don't?

Speaker 2 (51:55):
they yeah, it's one pen a week in and the us when I
was on trillicity I had thatokay, yeah, um and um.
What they said was yes, it'sgoing to be the same quick pen
device that has been that willbe made available in ireland.
Uh, then I was curious to knowbecause are there any plans to

(52:16):
release vials in Ireland?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Like compound.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
No, no, no, no, I'll talk about this in a minute.
So a vial, because I note thereference to solution for
injectable, which was alsoreceived approval in addition to
the quick pen format.
So what this is is essentiallyso.
At the moment the medication,like them all, come in a pen and
you dispense via the pen.
In America the medications alsocome in like the little glass

(52:42):
bottles.
That's a vial that you wouldessentially withdraw the amount
that you need and you wouldinject it from that.
So there is approval for thoseas well.
There is a thought you know insome places that that could be a
cheaper source to it.
It could make it more easilyavailable, because some of the
restrictions or issues we'veseen with some other medications
isn't necessarily the supply ofthe medication itself, but more

(53:04):
so the device that's used todispense the medication.
I asked them multiple GPs inIreland we spoke with have
reported low awareness ofManjaro and Ter's appetite.
What does Eli Lilly's educationcampaign for healthcare
professionals in Ireland entail?
Could you share any educationalmaterials beyond the patient
information leaflet?

(53:24):
So what they've said is inpreparation for launching Lilly
is engaging with healthcareprofessionals to educate and
answer questions.
Prescribing decisions should bemade by healthcare
professionals within theapproved indication and that's
fair enough.
We get that.
Now this was out.
This was around the time wherethere was the RTE went
undercover looking at the kindof black market trade in Ireland

(53:46):
off medication.
So I was curious then just toinclude like some questions
about this, because one of theone of the medications that came
up that was in Ireland isthrough the black market was
retrotrutide, which is deeplyconcerning because this is a
medication that is still inclinical trials.
That is not it's nowhere nearbeing released to the public in

(54:10):
America even yeah, in Americait's not.
This medication is notavailable anywhere, globally,
anywhere, and it's on like highlockdown as well.
The In America even.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, in America this medication is not available
anywhere, globally, anywhere,and it's on like high lockdown
as well.
The trials.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
So this is what we asked about.
The recent RT Investigatesexpose revealed that
retrotrutide is beingdistributed in Ireland despite
its unapproved status globally.
What steps is Eli Lilly takingto investigate the source of
this medication on the blackmarket, whether internally or
through clinical trialparticipants?
So their answer was we are incontact with the HPRA on this

(54:43):
topic.
In general, lilly aims to takeall necessary actions to
safeguard public health.
We continue to supportinternational education efforts
by joining forces withnon-governmental organisations
such as World HealthOrganisation, world Health
Professional Association andWorld Customs Organisation to
warn patients and healthcareprofessionals about the dangers
of buying medications outsidethe legitimate supply chain.
100% Like this goes back tothat whole idea of you should

(55:05):
only ever any form of kind ofmedicine or treatment,
prescribed, nomscript whatever,should only be coming from the
legitimate sources doctors,pharmacies, etc.
We asked is there any clinicaltrial participants for
retrotruatide in Ireland?
If so, how many?
Because my train of thought was, oh, is there people in the
trial in Ireland and maybe is itleaking that way?
Oh yeah, but they answered no.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
There isn't.
Then there is second lastquestion I asked is are there
any clinical trial participantsfor retrotrude in the UK?
If so, how many?
And they have said yes, we arenot disclosing participant
numbers at this time.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
And then the final question so it's in the UK.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Well, it's in the UK.
And again, yeah, these are justthe answers I'm just going to
give them and then we're justgoing to leave them.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
So yeah, people have the information.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
What does the supply process look like for Rheumatoid
for the clinical trialparticipants Specifically, how
is the medication delivered andtracked, and what data
collection or monitoringprocesses are in place for
participants?
And the answer is this is notsomething that we can provide
further details on at this time.
So that is all the informationthat we have from Eli Lilly and
I have to say.
I really, really appreciate theteam there with getting back to

(56:19):
me and with providing us theanswers.
They have, like they've been,you know, even in terms of other
things, in terms of giving meguidance on, and stuff like that
.
I really do appreciate them andI appreciate the fact that
they're willing to engage withlike a podcast that is in this
sphere and to give us someanswers.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It's good for them as well, it's good for us and it's
good for every single personthat listens to us as well.
You know, that's what we'rehere to do.
We're here to try and educatepeople as much as we can.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, and like, hopefully, you know, one of the
things that's important is thatwe can get factual information
out to people about, you know,the world of obesity and this
out to people about you know theworld of obesity, and this is a
big part of things at themoment.
So, yeah, thank you.
Thank you, eli Lilly, forengaging with us on that and
giving us those responses,because I did think initially I
might just get one kind ofblanket, kind of reply from them

(57:07):
.
But, in fairness, huge respect.
They did kind of, I feel, dothe best that they could Cool
Anything else, bel.
They did kind of, I feel, dothe the best that they could, um
cool, anything else blinderthat we had on for today?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I don't think so.
Oh god, you're asking me if Ican remember.
I don't know what's going on,paddy I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
So like we are in discussions about trying to meet
up because we've never met.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's gonna happen soon, though it it's going to
happen soon.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Which is wild?

Speaker 1 (57:37):
You have numbers that are actually.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I have numbers now I have random numbers.
I thought are these like runesfrom a stone or something like
that, but so that's one of thethings that we're hoping to get
done is to get to meet up inperson.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
We're so excited as well to um when we meet up to
make a plan and invite all ofthe guests that we want on.
Oh my goodness, we have somegood ones in mind.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, the other thing as well.
I would love we both would loveto hear from people that have
been on uh, I would say weightloss and maybe inspirational
journeys, maybe off their healthor fitness, even if it's not
weight loss, and maybeinspirational journeys, maybe
off their health or fitness,even if it's not weight loss.
I think it would be reallyinteresting to hear inspiring
stories from people, but alsofrom people that have had
challenges on their weight lossjourney.

(58:24):
So, yeah, if you're somebodythat is comfortable about maybe
telling us a little bit aboutyour journey and seeing if
something that you know we couldtalk about on the podcast, drop
us an email.
It doesn't matter where in theworld you are either.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
We're totally open to anyone and we just, we just
want the community itself to beinvolved in this, as well,
because you know it's all welland good, just the two of us
sitting here but, we wanteverybody else to be involved as
well, and and that's what it?
That's what we're, why we'rehere, you know so um yeah, I'm
here.
Anyway, I don't know whatyou're doing here.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm here for the paycheck to wait on it.
Can I like invoice all thehours as like tax deductible at
the end of the year?

Speaker 1 (59:05):
I'd say you could.
I'd say you could, surelythere's a form.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, there must be a form, but hello at the dose dot
I e.
So hello at the dose dot iie.
That will get through to us.
If you're somebody that has asay, if the weight loss journey,
if it's maybe just about maybeovercoming a challenge or
hardship or whatever in yourlife, um, we'd love to hear
about that because I thinkthat's something as well that is
inspiring for people is hearingother people that have overcome

(59:32):
things.
You know.
Um, but yeah, so If you thinkyou're of interest, let us know,
we'll talk.
We'll get our people, yourpeople, you know, brilliant.
But yeah, I feel kind of sadSaying goodbye, even though I
know we're back in a few weeks.

(59:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
But we're coming back , or but it will be out on.
It'll be on the the fridaymorning, I presume we'll we'll
stick to the schedule that we'vebeen keeping really, really
well as well for the monday, ohgod, okay well, I will.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, so belinda, we will talk again, probably in
like 10 minutes, but like interms of podcast wise, we we
will be back here.
Obviously, as we touched onthere, there could be some
exciting developments in Q1 interms of there's different
events happening in Ireland.
There is different wellnessevents, there is different
conversations that are happeningin the world of obesity, even.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I see some stuff from Huge conversations yeah, and we
want all those covered.
Yeah, like the Department ofobesity even.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I've seen some stuff huge conversations, yeah, and we
want all those covered yeah,like the Department of Health
the other day, so like it's areally exciting time of the year
for many, many reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
So we will want to try and plan something.
I think change is coming intothe UK as well yes, we didn't
even talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
No, we didn't but we will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
We'll hold on to that one, Paddy.
Yeah, that's very welcome one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
No, very, very, very welcome one.
I really really like thatproposal that's coming in this
week.
Yeah, Belinda, any final wordsbefore I turn your mic off?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
For the last time, not really Just want to say
thank you to everybody, allthose 13,000 people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, 13,000 streams.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, amazing everybody all those 13 000
people, yeah, that um streams,yeah, amazing amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Thank you so much.
Thank you and thanks, paddy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Thanks for putting up with me, mate, yeah, um, and
you?
Any final thoughts?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I would say just you know, look after yourselves,
folks, be kind to yourselves andplease, please, please anything
to do with your health care,with starting or changing
anything.
Please get your informationfrom your doctors and your
health care team, not fromtiktokers and instagrammers, and
I'm very aware of the irony inin us saying that, but that is

(01:01:48):
because we are hugely passionateabout people accessing their
wellness and their treatment andtheir support via legitimate,
proper channels.
So please, please we can't, wecan't emphasize that in yeah
engage with your medical team,as opposed to some random or
down in a beauty salon that hasrandom bags with them or

(01:02:08):
whatever.
Okay, um, but until a few weekstime.
Adios, amigo, and we will chatsoon.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Laters.