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Welcome to our final episode of 2024! We discuss navigating New Year resolutions and the pressure put on us by social media around this time of year, we reflect on how Christmas week went (Paddys first Christmas on Mounjaro), we also check in to see how is Belinda getting on having recently joined the gym - and Paddy shares some learnings form a recent retesting of his bloodwork.

All this plus lots more chats, laughs and randomness as you would expect!

Sit back, relax and enjoy the conversation 

None of the content in this episode is to be treated as medical advice. Always seek out personal support from your GP / Medical Care team before beginning or changing any aspect of your healthcare. 

We are not medically qualified - simply sharing our insights based on our journeys so far. Paddy is a Qualified Personal Trainer & Nutritional Coach. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Belinda, what's that you were saying a second ago,
before the music played?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Nothing, paddy.
I think my show would agreewith me, though.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're at the start of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Say nothing.
My mother will be watching.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, we're at the start of the podcast and it
feels like we're about two hoursin, because what people don't
know is we have literally donean hour of tech support for
belinda I was.
I want to say I wasn't going toenjoy, you know um just to get
it going.
So it's it's, it's fine, it'sfine, we're here we're here,
we're on video late're on videofor a first time yeah, now, I

(01:05):
don't know which of theplatforms that you're listening
on, folks, but some of the onesthat support video.
You may have a video version ofus if you don't, oh it will
certainly be on our YouTubechannel yeah, oh dear, but
anyway.
So, belinda, it is the week ofNew Year's Eve, new Year's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
How was I hate this question though?
Okay, how was Christmas?
How did you get over theChristmas?
And then the answer everyonealways gives is quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Quiet, yeah, just so peaceful.
Mine wasn't peaceful.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, how did you get over the Christmas?
Mine was nice, I was workingevery day bar one.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, you big eejit.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, I was working every single day except
Christmas Eve.
Now that was through my owndoing.
I will say yeah.
It was through my own choiceLook.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Christmas was grand.
It went off exactly how itshould have done, but we did
have a big chat.
Well, actually, that's afucking lie.
I told everybody that we arenever staying in ireland again.
Next christmas we're going tolanzarote or tenerife at least I
am, and whoever wants to comewith me can follow me love it

(02:23):
it's too much.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's too much work, it's too much stress for one
meal yeah, it is and it's it'slike never again in my life,
never there's so much pressurefor like one day, for like a
meal, like, imagine if there'snot much pressure like every
time you're having dinner orthat you're going for dinner or
something like that, you'd belike what?
What pressure like every timeyou're having dinner or that

(02:44):
you're going for dinner orsomething like that.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
You'd be like what, what?
No, no, we're going to go to ahotel somewhere nice, it's going
to be all-inclusive andnobody's going to have to wash a
plate yeah, do you know whatit's now that I feel I need a
few days off?
Yeah yeah, cruel, into it's toomuch pressure paddy yeah, it is
, it is um it was too much formy mother and father as well.

(03:06):
You know, because we all kindof ganged into my mom's house so
it was chaotic.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Anyway, lesson learned um, speaking of pressure
, obviously that was one thingthat we spoke about in the last
episode of the podcast.
Was that idea of, for me, myfirst, I guess, christmas on the
medication and on this journey?
Um, so that was fascinating forchristmas day and stevens's day

(03:34):
dinner with a contrast like I.
So, like christmas day was,went to my sister's.
Uh, we had started with soup, abig bowl of soup.
That was lovely.
First mistake, having a bigbowl of soup.
I started nothing I was out thegate too strong from the get-go

(03:55):
with a big bowl of soup becauseI was hungry, because I was like
, yeah, I'm not going to likeeat much during the day, you
know small portion and kind ofsave some appetite for christmas
day dinner, and uh, had thesoup and it's like I'm kind of
feeling that fullness level isfairly high now after the soup
and then you were on.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You were on 15 milligrams, though yeah, as well
I'm on 15 now.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
So, yeah, and then like the dinner came, but like
in friends, like my sister wasasking me like you, you know
what do you, you know what doyou want.
So she's very good withunderstanding my journey, and so
it was a case of oh, just giveme a couple of sprouts, you know
, load up on the turkey and ham,and just maybe one or two
roasties and a little potato,and if I want more I'll go back
Like what I was saying, if Iwant more, I'll go back.

(04:40):
So my usual approach started offhad the turkey Turkey was
lovely, it was so good.
Had my sprouts I love sprouts.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Same.
I had sprouts today.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, had my, had one of the roasties I think I can't
remember, and I had a roastie,had some of the mash and then I
was like, oh God, I'm stuffed.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
You must have been up to here, were you I?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
was stuffed.
You must have been up to here,were you?
I was stuffed.
Now, bear in mind, this wasn'tlike a massive dinner.
Also, other people had finishedbefore me, which is also
interesting, because that's oneof the things I've definitely
noticed in general is like justslower yeah and then dessert
time, I was just like I can'tleave it, just leave it.
And then everyone else washaving dessert later on the
evening I was like I'd have oneslice off off the thing we were

(05:24):
having.
I was like I'll have one sliceup, but like I was, I'd say it
was one of the first times in along time that I felt truly
beyond full through what I wouldcall not not an overly
excessive dinner, or probablywas a normal dinner before yeah,
well, yeah, yeah, you wouldn'thave taken the marg out of you

(05:47):
this time last year, you, youwould have probably eaten two of
them and then.
Stephen's day still had stuffleft and so I was like that I'll
do it.
The next day did a similarapproach and I was like, okay,
I've learned from yesterday, youknow don't have the soup so you
think, and I was like OK, I'velearned from yesterday.
You know, don't have the soup.
You think I had the soup,didn't have as much.
And then the dinner, and Iplated it up, this time and

(06:18):
literally I would say fourmouthfuls in, and I was like I
am actually.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Done.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
The thing is, though, what we have to learn from.
That is because our digestionis so slow now.
You would have been still fullfrom the day before.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
100%, 100%, full because I took my medication the
night after Christmas Day night, after the big meal if you get
me, I think I'm still full fromit.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know when we're gone, so that was
interesting after the big mealoh right, I think I'm still full
from it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, you know where are we going.
So that was interesting.
So, yeah, stephen's Day wasmore an epic fail, so it was,
you know.
Yeah, do you ever feel and Iknow you spoke about like
grieving for food or stuff likethat when you're not able to say
Christmas dinner?
If you're not able to sayChristmas dinner, if you're not
able to eat your full meal?
You've played it up for that.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Do you ever feel sad about that, Belinda, or what's
your thoughts on it?
So I spoke about this before ona reel.
I used to.
I think everybody has to gothrough a period of mourning
from the life that they lived,because if they were eating, um,
due to stress, if there wasstretchy stress eaters I spoke
to one of my subscribers aboutthis this evening, actually or

(07:32):
if you were an emotional eaterand then all of a sudden you
can't eat and you can't fixthose emotions with food, then
there is a kind of a periodwhere you go what the hell do I
do now?
You know, and also not havingthe desserts and not having all
of the lovely things that I usedto love, like I used to just

(07:54):
adore dark chocolate and redwine and all of the foods that
go with red wine.
I used to really, really missall that.
But I don't now because my, mylife is very different.
I have other things on my mindnow, like going to aqua, going
to pilates, going to the gym,getting out and about bringing
the dog out, all that kind ofstuff, bringing the boys off,

(08:15):
you know, yeah, so I don't, Idon't think about it now.
It's not part of my life nowyeah but like you're still only
six, seven, six, six and a halfmonths in so it's all really new
for you, isn't it still?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, and like I kind of sat with this to see, ok,
how do I feel about this?
Do I feel I've missed out anyat all?
And where I kind of landed was,I don't feel I've missed out,
because I've still got to enjoygood food.
I've got to enjoy differentstuff as well that I would
normally have every day.
I did still get to have somedessert, I had some of the

(08:49):
sweets, you know, stuff likethat, so I don't think there was
anything that I felt I couldn'thave.
I think it was more so a casefor me, though, to re-emphasize
the importance of portion size.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Hmm, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I do remember you saying previously, though, Paddy
, that you seem to enjoy yourfood more now.
Oh, definitely the flavors ofit.
Like and I think that comes downto again that idea of I'm
eating slower because I'menjoying that flavors more Bar
sweets they're that one thingthat I'm like if you were to put
them there, I could delete them, not because I'm enjoying them

(09:30):
at all, but because I'm notfeeling full from them because
they're just there.
Yeah, absolutely.
So.
I think that's definitely beena thing.
This um over the past few weekshas been that kind of learning
of do you know what I actuallydon't feel like.
I get a great sense ofsatisfaction and enjoyment from
sweets, just having them, andthen it made me think did I ever

(09:54):
I got comfort from them before?
But, given how sweet they are,I don't know if I'm enjoying
them.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
They're not even nice , Paddy.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, they're not like.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
You're talking about chocolate sweets, like roses and
heroes and celebrations andstuff like that.
They're not even nice anymore,you know, but again you'd still
eat them.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, and this thing.
There was one that I liked,actually, that I hadn't had
before.
It was kind of like this oh, ithad like dried or dehydrated,
like raspberry and chocolatething, and it was a new
sensation.
I was like, oh, that's nice.
Now I'd like more of thembecause I'm enjoying this
flavour.
But these just generic sugar.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I was like no, None of them are the same anymore.
Everyone says it Didn't do itfor me, but anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that was Christmas , I did enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
We're done now.
Thank God, it's over.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, I know what do you do for celebrating New
Year's nothing yeah sameabsolutely nothing, never have
never, have.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Now.
There is, I think, 15 of usgoing out on New Year's Day for
our dinner at 2 o'clock and Ithink I'm going gonna have some
red wine then.
I haven't had any, really uh,over the christmas at all I gave
it up yeah, easy, okay, easy.
And you know what?
I'm finding it really easybecause the longer that I am not

(11:19):
drinking, the less likely I amto drink again.
You know what?
And I said to said to Seanyesterday.
I said I think I'm going tohave a glass of wine now when I
have my dinner, but I don't knowif I will, I don't Because the
mental like I'm not talking asif I was drinking two bottles of
wine every night or anything.
But the mental clarity that Ihave when I wake up from not

(11:42):
having any alcohol and nothaving any alcohol for two weeks
there's there's a hugedifference.
I can literally do anything now.
I can do anything, and I findmy patience is a lot better as
well.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah as evidence before we went live
here, as you were trying to fixyour laptop.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
At least I tried this time.
Generally I don't oh, so funny.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, new Year's, yeah, same.
I don't know if I've ever maybewhen I lived in London, maybe I
went out on New Year's Eve onceor twice, but like I wouldn't
typically go out New Year's Eveat all, it's not something that
appeals to me one iota yeah likemyself and Peter, just stay at
home.
Same we One iota.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, like myself and Peter just stay at home.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Same we will have a glass of bubbly just at midnight
.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
For the sake of it.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah, just literally as a toast.
Probably won't even finish it.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And just watch RT or BBC, whoever is showing.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
New Year's counting, whatever it is, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
And that's kind of it .

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I tell you to be honest, I am so looking forward
to getting back into the routineof the kids going to school,
you know, and everything that Ido and everything around the
house so you're big on routineas well, like me.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I like.
I like scheduling and planningthings out and knowing what way
things are, and I don't likewhen things disrupt that.
Things out of my controldisrupt it, I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Do you know?
My whole wall in my kitchen iseverybody's got a board.
Everyone's got a board in mykitchen and we have to know
where everybody is at any giventime.
There's so much going on, youknow.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I just live by my Google calendar, like live
Everything on you know.
Yeah, I just live by my googlecalendar like live in there.
So it has to be like you know,same um.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So you touched on there, the gym, gym, yes, yes,
so you're going to gym.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
For anyone that missed that, tell us a bit about
it.
How's it going a weekend weekand a half?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I think I'm a week and a half in.
I started um was it christmasweek, I started the monday.
Yeah, yeah, christmas week anda half.
I think I'm a week and a halfin.
I started, um, was it christmasweek I started?
the monday yeah yeah, christmasweek, and it is um tailor-made
coaching.
So it's small group trainingand it's in like groups of eight
people and it's there's a ptthere for um to just guide you

(14:05):
absolutely all the way.
Like you know, it's almost likehaving a personal trainer, but
there's just other people aroundyou.
It's phenomenal.
And you know what, paddy, if Ihad joined a gym, like I used to
do, and put my headphones in onand went into the gym and just
started pumping away, I wouldn't, I would have walked out of it
and left it.
But this is very, very differentvery different.
You get to pump away with otherpeople yes, but what I will say

(14:30):
as well is like pilates andaqua aerobics, there are every
size, every color, every creed,everybody is at different ages
and nobody gives a shit whatanyone else is doing.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
And the majority of people don't, in a gym Like they
don't.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
You're so into yourself and how you're doing
and you're so out of breathanyway.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You're like the majority of people, even those
people that are like ripped orlook a particular way or
whatever.
You're too caught up inyourself, like then to be
looking at other people so yeah,or worried about the other
people to yeah nobody cares no,they don't.
and what I always say to peopleis like If everybody in the gym

(15:15):
thought that they were alreadyperfect the way they were and
didn't need to work onthemselves, they wouldn't be in
the gym.
Exactly so everybody is in thegym because they're trying to
improve For the same reason.
Some aspect of their health orfitness or physique or
aesthetics, or whatever the casemight be.
Everybody is there for aparticular thing.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, something else that I how is your gym going
actually?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, going good, you must have.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You must have personal bests outdone and
everything now do you?
See, I'm not great at keepingon top of that stuff, because I
kind of just do it you know,yeah, like we have a thing where
we're supposed to write it downand then do better the next
week.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
It is written down, it is written down and then do
better the next week.
It is written down, it iswritten down and, like my coach
Max will say to me, oh, paddyFairplay, like that's, you know
more than this, and I'm like, ohcool.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I was asked today what are your wins for this week
?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
well, I'm here me being in the gym.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's a win.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
That's literally what I said yeah, but no, the gym's
going good.
Like I'm not training with Maxthis weekend Last week would
have been Christmas, but I didget in and do work out myself.
I did my squats and deadliftsand that there the other day.
And then I have decided thatfor the month of January I am
doing five kilometres every dayfor the month of January as a

(16:35):
fundraiser in aid of Women's Aid.
So the idea is I'm not worriedabout the time for that, but the
idea is that I'll walk, jog,crawl whatever.
Five kilometers um every day, umfor the month of january and we
can find that on your socialsyeah, so if you just look up um

(16:55):
at munjarro paddy on instagram,you'll'll find the details there
of what I'm doing.
So it kind of set out to tryand raise 500 euro for women's
aid.
They kind of work withsupporting women and children
that have been subjected todomestic violence and that, and
it's something I've beenthinking about for a long time
and I thought you know what Ifeel like this.

(17:16):
It just felt like the time wasright and the whole idea like
I've been thinking about doingpark runs and stuff like that.
I hate running and jogging.
It's not running, it's jogging.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
You hate the gym as well, remember.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well, yeah, jogging is on another level of hate,
though it really is.
I get some sense of enjoymentwhen the social aspect and
talking to people in the gym andkind of, if I do get something
like a PB or something like that, that's great, whereas jogging,
I find nothing about thatenjoyable at all, other than
getting home in the door again.

(17:50):
Um so, but this is also part ofthe reason why I've chosen it,
because I want to do somethingthat pushes me outside of my
comfort zone, because I'm a bigbeliever that it's only by
intentionally pushing yourselfinto these spaces that you
continue to grow as a person.
So you know, makes you moreresilient and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Can I share your link to that on my socials as well?
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, but yeah.
So I said the goal was going tobe 500 euro.
I think I'm already at nearly250 and only launched like
yesterday.
So like I'm delighted, you know, really, really happy.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, keep going though.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, no, I will, Absolutely no.
I'll keep going, you know, andif I go over 500, that'll be
amazing, but I have never likeas much as I've been on social
media and various platforms andyou know whatever, I have never
done any type of fundraisingevent ever over the years like
this.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Oh yeah, why is that?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I don't know, I guess , like I just, I don't know, it
just never happened, is it?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
something that has never occurred to you or has it
occurred to you, and then you'vestood back from it.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, it has occurred to me, but I've always stood
back from it.
I have supported things bytaking part in fun in events
where people are fundraising forthings, or I've donated to them
, or you know stuff like that,but not independently taking it
on yourself.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of work, though, paddy as
well.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It is, yeah and then like trying to pick the right I
know this might sound wrong, butthe one charity that you feel
you can make- much more of adifference to it's hard, isn't
it, I suppose?
resonate with you and I thinkover the past few weeks in
particular in the news there hasbeen a lot of really really sad

(19:34):
stories in Ireland and in theUK and further afield about
domestic violence, particularlychildren, and stuff like that,
and it was one that just reallyfeels emotional for me when I
read those type of things.
And then the other thing I hadalways thought through the years
that if I did do any kind offundraising, that supporting
some aspect of a like femaleorientated charity was important

(19:57):
to me, because the majority ofthe demographic that supports me
on social media and have donesince like 2011 is female.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
so that's kind of behind it as well, you know and
put into it yeah, yeah, so we'llsee, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
but um, and then the other thing, before we get
talking about the like, I guessone of the main things we want
to talk about today was so, backwhen I started my journey in
June, I got my blood test doneand they were predominantly okay
.
There was nothing too scary inthem.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So this is when you started your journey with
Monjaro.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yes, yeah, went and got my bloods done and I said
I'll get them done again in thefuture and see is there a
difference?
Ok, is there a difference inthem?
Given the medication, given theexercise, nutrition, all that,
what kind of thing would we see?
Because, again, I've alwayssaid that this journey for me

(20:54):
and more than for you, belindaas well, it's a health first
journey as opposed to like anaesthetic thing or you know
anything like that.
So it's, it's another datapoint for me to see how
everything's going.
So got my full results backtoday again, like the doctor
gave me a summary offeverything's fine.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I was like, yeah, that's what I got, as well a
text message around yeah becauseyou got.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
You got blood tests back today too.
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
I have.
I don't have my comparisons yet.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay, yeah but yeah still, though, actually do you
know what we'll do some point,not on the podcast we'll compare
her blood tests can we Paddynow, given that I am like five
years older than you, I thinkfive or six years older than?
You, I think, five or six yearsolder than you Go on anyway.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
How are they?
What do they say?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So I went to chat GPT to ask it because I'm not going
to understand all the things.
Okay, yeah.
So I went through like when Iwas looking at.
So it goes through like liver.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Functionality.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Renal lipid, all this kind of stuff.
Ok, and there was some of themthat I could see a big
difference in the numbers, eventhough the previous numbers
weren't too bad.
I was like, oh, that's stillquite different though.
I'd love to know what does thedifference mean?
I went through my liver profileresults, my renal profile
results, my HbA1c's which is areally important one, I know,

(22:25):
for prediabetes and stuff likethat my vitamin D, my vitamin
B12, my thyroid function, andthen FBC it's called on here as
well, like bloods and stuff sowent through an amylase, yeah.
So I went through all of these,put them all into chat GPT and
was like give me the summary onthese numbers that have changed
and literally said like, forexample, my ALT, which I didn't

(22:48):
even know what it was, hasreduced from 33 to 14.
What does this indicate, eventhough I know 33 is still OK, do
still okay, do you know?
I mean 33 isn't bad for thisparticular result, but I was
like that seems like quite adifference.
I wonder what does that mean?
And basically it came backsaying a reduction in alt levels
from 33 to 14 is generally apositive sign.

(23:09):
It suggests that there may beless stress or damage on your
liver.
Alt levels can fluctuate due tovarious factors, including
lifestyle, improved diet,reduced alcohol or effective
treatment of an underlyingcondition.
That's awesome.
Then asked it about a thyroidtsh level had reduced as well.
Um, it said to do that this wasa positive result as well and

(23:35):
that your thyroid is workingbetter.
I asked it about the slightreduction in my hb a1c's um, and
it said that this is to do withyour glucose control within
your body, essentially, and uhthat the lowering of this level
is associated with reduced riskof complications from diabetes.

(23:57):
Um asked about creatininepronounce that wrong urea,
sodium and chloride, egfrs, andall of these came back with um.
Overall, these changes reflectimprovements in your kidney
function, hydration status andoverall health brilliant, so,

(24:18):
like everything that's amazing,every marker came back as being
improved that's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Like, like.
Is that's exactly what, whatyou wanted, what you would have
hoped?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
for, yeah, I didn't expect to be that positive
though yeah, yeah, I just can'tbelieve that actually actually
yeah, Like yeah.
Brilliant and they weren't badto start with, but given that,
even within the range becauseit's all this range that they're
improved, it shows, hopefully,that my actual health of my body
has improved as well, otherthan just.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Which, in turn, gives you longevity.
How many years have you addedon to your bloody life now,
paddy, by going on thismedication?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
yeah, and advocating for yourself and getting it yeah
, and then making it work foryou, yeah, and other kind of
lifestyle you know changes aswell.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I don't think you can.
I don't think you can be onmanjaro um without making
positive changes to your life,because I think, once, even if
you don't set out to make thosechanges, I think they will
happen organically.
Because of your weight loss,you will become more confident.
Because of your confidence, youwill go out more or walk more,

(25:32):
or maybe you'll go and take aswimming class or something like
that.
So it does all happenorganically and it all leads to
longevity.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Paddy, congratulations, maybe another
seven or six years you have now.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
That's great news.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Be delighted with yourself.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
We'll be here like at like 99, like doing a podcast.
My inflammation has gone down.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
God only knows what we'll be on by then, but we'll
still be on it, god, people hatewhen I say that online they
hate it oh they're like, whywould you have the medication
for life?
Yeah, honestly like yeah, and Istill get it like a video that
I made a year and a half ago.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
People are still fucking commenting on it you're
taking the medication from thediabetics, right oh?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
my god, that is so 2022, I know the world has moved
on, moving on.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I was listening to a podcast today and they were
talking about how in their areathere is now um aesthetic type
places and I know there's someaesthetic place in the north um
that have community nurses thatprescribe this there as well as
part of a weight loss clinic.
So I'm not talking about that.
But there are some places inthe United States that are now

(26:45):
advertising or promotingcompounded medication, glp-1
medications for aesthetic fatloss, so not for like obesity.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Oh Well, that was bound to come.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
As as in like want to drop 10 pounds.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
You mightn't be okay, but hey yeah, yeah, and it's
the compound that they'll getfor it, isn't it, you know?
But something big is going tohappen in the uk soon.
I feel, paddy, I think it'ssomething's coming down the line
for them definitely yeah, yeahit's's a big huge thing with
their advertising now, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, like like, even in Ireland we have very tight
kind of requirements about notadvertising medications and how
information is presented aboutweight loss products and
services and stuff like that,which includes even things like
personal trainers and all thiskind of stuff.
But it's I don't know.

(27:44):
I know we've touched on this anawful lot but, like some of
there seems to be someprescribers still engaging in
some very elusive and worryingpractices, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, but it is worrying, it's really worrying.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
It is Like we haven't .
I haven't spoke about thisfully, but like over the past
kind of month or so, I've beenin conversation with a potential
prescriber about a potentialcollaboration with them and like
I have grilled them about whatis their approach to patient
safety, to prescribing, to allthis kind of stuff, because it
means so much to me, um, do youknow?

(28:21):
So it, but it just seems thatthere are some prescribers out
there.
Just yeah, it worries me.
So I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Things are going to change, though.
They're going to change, Ithink so, yeah, yeah, and
unfortunately, because of thosefew um companies that are doing
that, it'll, it'll, it'll changefor everybody now unfortunately
, yeah, um so, belinda, talk tome about obviously you recently
joined the gym.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, is that?

Speaker 2 (28:46):
because it's new year , new me well, um, it wasn't
actually no good because I amabsolutely sick to the back
teeth of hearing the new yearnew me.
I just Paddy, I just hate itbecause it just sets you up for

(29:09):
failure immediately Out the gateyou put so much pressure on
yourself, don't you?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
What about you need to come up with, like all these
five New Year's resolutions?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
and hey, you can lose 10 pounds in two weeks with our
fat shred burn hyper class yeah, please, please, please, give
yourself a bit of grace and staythe hell away from all of that
bullshit yeah anyone that'sthinking about it, anyone that's
looking into the new year nowand thinking do you know what
I'm going to give um, slimmingworld, our weight watchers,

(29:39):
another try for the maybe third,the fifth or the tenth time?
The first sign of madness isrepeating the same thing over
and over again and expecting adifferent outcome.
If those things have not workedfor you previously, they are
not going to work for you now ifyou always do what you've
always done, you'll always getwhat you've always got yeah,

(30:01):
exactly exactly.
And there's this amazing lady.
Her name is Sinead and she does.
She runs the intuitive eatingIreland and she is phenomenal.
If anyone wants to follow her,you really should, um, and she
is absolutely just gung ho tolet people know how much

(30:24):
misinformation is out there whenyou join those kind of clubs
and that.
But there is so much, so manymore things that you can do
rather than just out the gate,make these resolutions, join
this club.
You could just literally giveyourself a little bit of grace
yeah be kinder to yourself.
Um, maybe just think of you knowwe're not going to say that

(30:46):
we're going to be a new year,new me, maybe it's just a new
year.
We'll evolve a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, yeah, you know, just do a little bit better
than you did last week and likethe sad thing is, I remember
looking at this um last year, umfor when the radio shows was
doing that like it's.
It's the main new year'sresolution that is set by people
is to lose weight yeah, andit's just.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You know what it is resolution yeah, god and like
and and the pressure that comeswith it with that new year and
it just feels so idiotic justbecause we take a new calendar
out of a packet.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
We feel that we have to be a new you yeah, new me,
and I don't, I've neverunderstood it yeah, like some
people might find it as a youknow, compartmentalising a
project or a thing they want todo, fair enough, but in terms of
if this is making you feelunder pressure to have to do

(31:49):
something because of socialmedia or stuff like that, that
in itself is a signal that maybe, wherever that pressure is
coming from, unfollow them.
Unfollow them.
Wherever that pressure comefrom, unfollow them.
But if you're sitting therethinking, do you know what?
This isn't like a New Year'sresolution of all I need to this
, this, this and this.
But in general, I'd like tofocus maybe on my health and

(32:09):
improve my health for longevity,not restricted to just, you
know, january or 12 months of2025.
Then you know, maybe look at,ok, what are the positive steps
that I can plan out maybe forthe year, like in terms of maybe
meeting with my doctor ormeeting with a specialist, or
meeting with a dietitian, or youknow, you know or getting a
consultation or talking to mydoctor about a GFP1 journey.

(32:30):
Yeah, or getting a consultationto see what comes back from it
about the medications or that,so that.
But don't, don't, I guess, lookat it or feel like under
pressure to look at it in caseof the New Year's resolution,
because again, the majority ofresolutions fail come the end of
February.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
You know, and you know, when I look back, paddy,
of all the years I made all ofthose resolutions myself,
because I bought into all ofthat I just look back and I
think every single time I setmyself up for failure.
Yeah, bar none.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Bar none, and I disliked myself a little bit
more after every single failure.
And I just, you know, I just Icouldn't do it, and I'm just
trying to let people know thatthat doesn't have to be the way.
You don't have to do that, youknow.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Like I think it would be great if, rather than think
about, oh, I have to come upwith new resolutions, oh I have
to come up with these, I have tocome up with these Maybe just
take some time out to thinkabout what would I like to be
different about life in 2025 interms of me, my health, that
kind of stuff and maybe justmull over that for a while and
that's not something you'regoing to have an answer for in a

(33:39):
week or two, you know but then,like it could be a case that,
you know, maybe come February,March, you're like do you know
what I have a clearer picture ofin general, the areas of my
life I'd like to maybe enhanceor improve, like for me, as I
say, for me, when I kind ofreached a point of now, I did
try again last January and, aswe spoke on the last podcast,

(34:02):
that was not a good experience,but it was and actually a few of
the attempts I've done havebeen May.
Now that I think about it, Idon't know why May, but anyway,
like it was May for me when Ikind of thought, okay, I want to
improve my longevity here, andI want to focus on my actual
health, not within a particulartime frame of of a thing, but I

(34:26):
need to improve the quality ofmy life in general.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, yeah and I think it's.
It's about not making thosemassive, massive decisions about
joining those clubs just on awhim or like even.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like you know, some people can go all in as well,
even on things like I'm going togo to the gym five days a week.
You know that's my new year'sresolution.
No, if you haven't been going tothe gym for five days a week,
like for the past month, forfailure start percent, you know
what I'm going to try and get tothe gym once a week, and I'll
go and get to the gym once aweek and I'll go out for maybe a
walk once a week, if you wantto start off with something.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
But, like.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Don't be setting goals for yourself for things
that are going to be unrealistic, and I think, even that idea of
something having to be a goal Iknow we talk about goal weights
Inherently, a goal is somethingthat you then achieve and
that's done, whereas your healthisn't something that's done.
Your health is something thatyou're, it's an ever evolving

(35:26):
thing that you have to keepchasing yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
And chasing, and chase until the day you die.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, you know, I don't know, paddy.
I just I don't think I canactually even articulate what my
hope would be for people to notmake those those irrational
decisions to think, oh my God, Ibetter go back to Slim World, I
better go back to WeightWatchers, I better join the gym.
It's just like you just said,paddy.

(35:53):
Just say to yourself you knowwhat.
I'm going to give myself alittle bit of grace now and I'm
going to go out for a walk twonights a week.
I'm going to maybe join a gymin February or March, see how I
feel after my walking, I'vebuilt up.
It took me two years to get intothe gym, Paddy.
After I started my journey, youknow I was afraid of my life to

(36:13):
go to the gym.
So it's a big thing to kind ofsay, yep, I'm going to do that,
and it bloody costs money and itcosts time and it costs energy
and all of that, the resourcesthat's been put into that one
thing.
99% of the time you know itfalls by the wayside and I'm
sure everybody that's makingthose decisions will know where

(36:35):
I'm coming from when I say that.
Making those those decisionswill know where I'm coming from
when I say that.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
But like, even like, it's mad some of the things,
like the ads that I'm gettingnow on my Instagram, for example
.
Right Like, there is an ad thatkeeps coming up and it's along
the lines of we're looking for10 flabby men over 200 pounds
that want to lose fat.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I get that on Instagram.
We're looking for eight womenfrom Carrick.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, and like I get the marketing, but it's the
negative talk that's part of themarketing.
Why not change that to hey,we're looking for 10 men that
want to enrich their life andfeel more confident.
Yeah, health hey, we're lookingfor 10 men that want to enrich
their life and feel moreconfident yeah, health, wealth,
longevity yeah, and it's youknow that's the thing that I
really dislike and I know whereit comes from, because there is

(37:25):
there's a few key that are seenas key gurus in the world of
fitness that do all thesecourses about how to attract
leads and how to get this.
You know, I get it, I get it.
You get that in every business,but it's very similar
approaches that they advise interms of the language to use to
entice people and to hook peopleand to try and get an emotional

(37:49):
response from somebody for themto sign up.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They're all hooks, aren't they?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah and a lot.
But it response from somebodyto for them to sign up with the
hooks, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
yeah, yeah and a lot, but it's just a shame that a
lot of it's done throughnegative body talk or self-image
talk or stuff like that, and Idon't like that like, if
somebody is offering that to you, what do you think they're
going to be like when you walkinto their club or whatever?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
yeah, you know and even this idea of oh, lose seven
pounds in two weeks yeah, it'sjust not progressive and again
I'm surprised somebody hasn'tbeen pulled up Again.
We were talking aboutadvertising standards before,
because you cannot guaranteethat.
Also and this is wheresometimes personal trainers hate
me, because I will just say itas it is like, as opposed to
their marketing, anyway that,like we know, if somebody's

(38:28):
going to lose seven pounds overtwo weeks, the majority of
that's probably going to bewater.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's not going to be water, but the thing is, they
could nearly guarantee thatyou're definitely going to lose
water.
Yeah, in two weeks, yeah, andthat's all you're going to lose.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, if somebody goes on like a very restrictive
diet or nutritional intake fortwo weeks, it's very likely
they're going to lose.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
And you're walking for, and you're walking for one
solid hour a day, every day,like there's just.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
There's just so many different things anyway yeah, so
anyway in relation to new year,new me and resolutions.
Belinda and patty are sayingfeck the resolutions yeah focus
on your health and just maybelook at a longer term plan for
if there's aspects of yourhealth or life that you think
could do with focus.
But don't feel tocompartmentalise those into a

(39:21):
like yeah, into a general.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
A knee-jerk reaction.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
We're going to try and cut down on that.
Yeah, especially when we'rethinking about joining slimming
rooms, slimming whatever, andgyms and stuff.
Just stop and think.
It's a massive, massive thingto do, isn't it?
With time, finances, energy,you know.

(39:51):
So make sure that you're up forit, if you are deciding to do
it.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Is this decision I'm about to make to commit to this
thing?
Is this going to make me feelgood about myself from day one?
Or not because a lot of them,we know, don't like again that
anxiety of going, potentiallystanding on the scales or that
anxiety off really intense.
Oh my god.
I've signed up to this 14 dayprogram.
I have to go to the gym like 10times and yeah, you end up

(40:17):
hating it then, don't you?
Yeah, it's not sustainable.
Not sustainable.
I actually seen a big TikTokfitness influencer.
Influencer.
I was trying to think can Icombine those two words
Fitfluencer, fitfluencer?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh no, they combine those two words influencer,
fitfluencer.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Oh no, I think that's already out there, patty,
anyway.
Um, that had been outessentially bitching about a
glp1 medications before andthey've done a complete u-turn
on it because they themselveshave said and I I see there's
like essentially a commercialaspect to this that, um, I can
support people and grow mybusiness at the same time yeah,
yeah yeah, I admire there beingso much transparent about it,

(41:00):
but it still felt a little bitkind of grabby yeah, yeah, it
did, but that's kind of whatwe're up against.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
We know that Munjarro is soon going to be available
in Ireland, belinda and I'd loveholding my breath one lady one
of my girls was told the otherday by her doctor that it will
100% be here in February yeahbut what's your thoughts on that
?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
yeah, I had a, a um undisclosed source um who said
that they that the efforts werebeing made to have it in
available from january at somepoint.
So I do think it's going to bequarter one like that, as in the
springtime, based on things I'mhearing.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, that's going to upturn a lot, isn't it?
A lot of things for people itwill Like a lot.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I think there's still going to be issues about
doctors wanting to prescribe it,about cost, about, yeah, a few
different things.
I think it will never be ascostly as it is in the States,
though, but it will possibly bemore costly than it is in the UK
, yeah, and Northern Ireland,for sure yeah we're never on the
better side of any of thosethings yeah, I did follow up

(42:22):
with Eli Lilly because obviouslywe had sent them queries and I
chased them last week just forChristmas and I'm back and
saying we will come back to you,I think, next week.
So they're kind of.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
But, paddy, are they the ones that will set the price
?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
They're not are they and I've said that to well, I
mean they're going to be theones setting the cost to the
distributor?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
So that'll be some of the things.
So I have asked them.
You know, on cost, but equallythat could be a thing that is
for the distributor.
Yeah, so we'll see where thatcomes.
But anyway, there's a good fewquestions, so we'll know a bit
more about that.
But the early indications yeah,the early indications would
indicate, yeah, that it is goingto be more expensive than.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
And you know it's funny, because this medication
that's so globally known and soglobally famous and you just
cannot turn on the TV, the news,social media, media.
You can't open any app withoutit been, without you being
confronted with it.
How is it that we can stillwalk into our own local doctor
and they not know anything aboutit?

(43:24):
And I mean effing nothing howis that?
Possible, or are they?
Are they of the opinion?
Well, I'm not talking to thisperson about that, because it's
not.
It's not available here, so why?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
would I even engage in a conversation, you know yeah
, I think some of it is that, um, there is, like I've heard, of
two or three doctors locallythat have been the exception
where they have gone and got theinformation, they've got the
leaflets, they've printed themout, they've read them, they've
given it to the patient and sothat which is so refreshing to
hear that there was a genuineeffort made to kind of to kind

(44:00):
of hear it.
But that's one of the thingsI've asked Eli Lilly is there
seems to be a very low level ofawareness about teres epithet,
ie Mun Jarrow in particular,knowledge in knowledge,
education, like yeah so what'stheir um approach to creating
that awareness within themedical world in ireland?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
so we'll see what they say when I when I um went
to ask my doctor about manjaroand if he would press write a
prescription for me um waybefore I started manjaro, um, I
was on ozempik, obviously, but Iwas trying to kind of feel
around, see what was going tohappen.
Could I get it off my doctor?

(44:38):
Would he write the prescriptionfor me?
Anyway, he said, oh, I don'tknow.
And he slid around his computer, he tapped in a few words,
letters, whatever, and he saidno, I won't know.
Thyroid cancer, yep.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Jesus Christ almighty .
It's such a lazy responsereally is the most laziest thing
I've ever heard in my life it'sa considering troll type
response, yeah, which there'sbeen a lot of out over the past
week.
People have definitely been offwork or something because, by
God, my social media, I've this.
It seems to come every so often.

(45:14):
So the video that went viralthere maybe about five weeks ago
, and I got a heap of commentsfor that one, which I wasn't
surprised which one was that nowwhich?
that was one about actually theannouncement of Munjar becoming
available in Ireland, and thenover the past week I've had more
comments because, again, yourvideos stay there, so new people

(45:35):
find them, and even the fireruns, yeah, and it's shown again
in people's feeds, yeah.
Exactly so.
There's definitely been anincrease over the past Christmas
week in terms of people wantingto share very strong opinions
about how, how me and peoplelike me are nothing but fat,
lazy sods.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you shared, yeah, and I'm
just like and people like meare nothing but fat lazy sods.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you shared, yeah, and I'm just
like, and even when I said, evenwhen I said that I was going to
do the 5K a day in aid ofcharity.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Oh my God.
Yes, someone replied to me onFacebook.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I was like oh what?
Because I said this is pushingyourself outside of your comfort
zone.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Aren't you supposed?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
to be a PT and I was like don't be an ass.
Firstly, I'm doing good withthis.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
And I never said there's an issue of walking
6,000 steps.
I'll walk all day.
That doesn't cost me.
However, I'm jogging these, orthat's the goal is trying to jog
as much as I can.
That's where the discomfort isfrom.
And then I said, in relation tobeing a personal trainer I'm
going to let you go and do yourresearch on me there and figure
out my journey, so you'llunderstand the significance
there.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
But some people are just, paddy, I don't know how
you have the tolerance to replyto these people in the way you
do.
Never mind, just reply to them,but to reply to them in the way
you do, like I, when I seethose kind of comments, I
literally have to close my phonebecause I watch f and blind and
oh, my usual.
Um retort is just first day onthe internet question mark yeah,

(47:09):
I.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I kind of see it as a way to challenge whatever
thought system they've come from, but also just to try and
highlight how ridiculous theyare, yeah, and how ignorant,
they are.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
How misinformed, but you know what I find as well,
and something that's been reallyannoying me lately, is that
when I go to reply to it, theysay this person does not allow
you to reply.
You message them.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
So they can write up anything they like and have no
replies on it and the one wheresomebody called me a like a fat
runt, we'll say, but with adifferent letter Right Nice, wow
, yeah, like I reported onTikTok and they come back with
saying that they didn't find anybreach of their community

(47:57):
guidelines with that abusivemessage.
Got it.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And that's a whole other discussion about how poor
community standards are beingenforced.
And then we have the likes ofMeta that went the other way at
times and shut down a load ofpeople that were creating
community spaces like what we doand shut down all their of
people that were creatingcommunity spaces like what we do
and shut down all theirprofiles because they thought
they were trying to sell drugs,and it's like no.
Yeah, but you look at thepicture of my breakfast.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It was reported for porn.
God damn, god damn porn.
Saucy, saucy eggs, yeah,Scrambled or boiled.
Oh my god, like that's justpure hate, isn't it coming from?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
what can you do?
So, belinda, what would your ifsomebody is?
Okay, I have put the wheels inmotion.
I am starting on a munjaro or azempic journey or whatever the
care similar journey in january,not as new year's resolution
but just as new health kind ofjourney that I'm starting on um,
and we've talked about hintsand tips and stuff like that
before, I know on a previouspodcast, um, but like what would

(48:59):
your top one or two kind oftips be again for somebody that
might be starting out day one onthis journey?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
on this journey.
Well, I think maybe I'll goback to thinking about doing
this journey.
The first and second thing youshould do is you should talk to
a reliable, reliable source, ieyour doctor.
Don't take any, any informationfrom anybody on the Internet.

(49:29):
Go and see your doctor and talkto him and tell him how you
feel and stand up and advocatefor yourself and tell the doctor
how, exactly how you're feelingand exactly how situations make
you feel and exactly how foodmakes you feel and cry.
If you have to cry because ifyou don't explain to him, it's

(49:50):
not even.
You don't even have to explainto him, because sometimes it's
hard to explain those emotionsand the way you feel, about the
way you are.
You just need to let him knowhow much this is impacting you,
and I think that's the firststep in advocating for yourself.
And if you find that you knowyou made a mess of it or you

(50:11):
didn't explain yourself properly, Make another appointment, go
back and see the doctor.
But you have to go and see yourdoctor.
There's no point, paddy, doinganything.
Is there online?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
This is the thing Like even if you do go to a
reputable prescriber that isn'tyour doctor, they should be
informing your doctor anyway.
So, like your doctor is goingto, even if you go under he's
going to find out.
So even if your doctor mightnot be as informed or something,
currently, you still shouldhave that discussion with them
so they're at least aware heavenforbid if anything happens in

(50:45):
the future that they're aware ofwhat medication you're on like.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
And God forbid if anything happened and you did go
into hospital for some reason,this medication needs to be on
your and God forbid if anythinghappened and you did go into
hospital for some reason.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
This medication needs to be on your file.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I know there are ladies outthere that haven't even told
their doctor, haven't even toldtheir husbands.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
But they're, you know , you should, and men, and men,
well, yeah, Because I had thaton TikTok.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
There one man in particular that has been
messaging me for the few weeksand he is engaging with a
prescriber as well.
He's kind of asked me somegeneral questions, but, as
always, if there's stuff that's,you know, out of my realm, like
nope, you need to go and talkthis or talk to that, but he's
like literally nobody knows,patty, else, that I'm on this.
Nobody knows.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
You know what's your, what's your biggest tip for
somebody starting out orthinking about starting out?

Speaker 1 (51:38):
um, you need to be realistic with your expectations
, like if you're going in thereagain, like thinking week one,
week two, I'm going to drop astone.
That is not what thismedication for, particularly
month one of this medication.
Um, as we have said time andtime and time again on various
reels, on both our profiles andon episodes of the podcast, you

(51:59):
know that first month, maybe twomonths maybe even three months
maybe even longer for somepeople.
Your body is getting used to themedication.
The the level is increasing inyour body as you titrate up the
different doses.
For some people they might be aquick responder, like I was.
Fortunate I was.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
But that is not the norm.
But for other people like Ihave one of my videos where I
actually talk about this topicand I was blown away by the
amount of people that said to methat they were in month three
or month four of their journeybefore things really kicked in
for them.
And I was amazed and I'm likein this environment every day
and I wasn't aware that it wasgoing to be that high the amount

(52:38):
of people that said no, it wasonly really say when I got to 10
milligram the thing reallykicked in, yeah or, for some
people, seven by five orwhatever the case might be.
So be realistic.
And that's always when someone,even this week someone messaged
me like, oh you know what?
What advice would you give?
I'd like go watch that videothat we have you know because,
or the previous podcast, becausethat is for me the most

(52:59):
important thing, you know somany expectations.
Yeah, so many people gettingdisappointed and deflated.
They're like a week, two weeksin and like, oh, my hunger is
still there and I haven't lostany weight.
Or I've put weight on and I'mstill hungry, and it's like,
yeah, because this isn't a diet.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
A miracle drug that it's made out to be on social
media by the stars in the.
States and all around.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
It's just not.
It's a medical treatment thattakes up to six months to be
assessed in terms of efficacy onyou, specifically on your
biology.
So you know we need tounderstand that going into it.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, and that's the real life of it.
Like, that's real life, that'show it is you know, and
unfortunately nobody's going towant to hear that, nobody's
going to want to listen to that,nobody because it's not the
sexy sales pitch off.
Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, oh mygod, like patty, you could
honestly be the sexy sale pitchfor manjaro, because you were a
super responder and you lost sixstone in six months, like

(53:58):
that's.
That's unheard of it is, isn'tit?
You know so.
And then there's the the normal, regular people like myself
that were on it for two yearsand lost 80 pounds, got another
20 to go.
You know, it's a it's a lot.
The long game it really is.
It is a long game and like.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Again, even looking at the clinical trial data, I
know that say the difference umin say 12.5 to 15 or 10 to 15,
is a tiny percentage amounttypically for people in terms of
the weight that they lose, likeif you've lost the majority of
your weight by that point yeah,like me yeah, like by 10
milligram or 12.5 milligram, solike by going to 15.

(54:38):
What the clinical trial showedwas that there was for some
people a small percent extra.
So this is again kind of thingnot everybody's going to get to
15 milligrams because you don'tneed to.
You know, some people lose allof their weight and hit their
kind of healthy BMI weight bysitting on like five milligram
or 10 milligram or whatever thecase may be.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, and I'm going to.
That's what I'm going to tryand do with the 10 patty.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I think with the like the initial six weeks in the
gym.
I weighed myself when I wentinto the gym the other day and
I'm going to weigh myself at theend of the six week
introduction thing and I thinkif I have lost the weight that
maybe I think I want to havelost by then, I'll still stick
with what I'm doing with the 10.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Is there any aspect of your this?
We had not spoke about this.
This is just something thatcame to my head.
Is there any aspect of yournutrition that you think you
need to tweak further, or areyou happy with where your
nutrition is at the moment?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I'm happy with my nutrition when it's not
christmas okay, and when my?
And when my brother isn't homeand he's a chef and he won't
stop bloody, making us go out tolunch and cooking stuff at home
, you know.
But other than that, yeah, Ithink I've got it.
I think I've got it and it'staken me.

(55:59):
It took me a year and a halfwith a dietitian in Beyond BMI
and also a health coach andgoing, and you know doing all
the work that I could do on myown as well.
I know exactly what I should bedoing, like yourself, paddy you
know exactly what it shouldlook like.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, because there's somethingI've been thinking about a lot
and I think for myself.
I'm very aware of my proteinintake, but I don't know if my
protein intake is high enoughcorrect.
Right, okay, so that's what Iam looking at.
Okay, like I know, there's a big, huge math thing that you can

(56:39):
do on that and like I'm aware ofwhere it should be and I will
know that, like I will typicallydefault to multiple protein
sources throughout the day, butequally, with me doing like
quick, quick maths in my head,I'm like I don't think that's
kind of near, I don't thinkthat's where I would like it to
be, um.
So, and this is where sometimesthe idea of like, um

(57:03):
supplementation and stuff likethat can be handy.
So I have ordered myself somenew flavors of um, some clear
whey proteins, yeah.
So again, this is not in.
This is in no way in place ofnormal food at all.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
This is literally to supplement the normal food I'm
having, the day-to-day food andcan I just ask you then um, at
your height and your weight now,what are you looking at as a
good number on the, on the um ofgrams of protein per meal?
What are you looking at?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
So like as a ballpark .

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Yeah, no, a really loose ballpark.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Like there is again like a lot of things, there is a
range of things, but like if Iwas to do a very quick thing of,
ok, if I work on the base of,like you know, one gram of
protein per, say, say, kilo ofweight or whatever it is that I
am, um, that would mean that Ishould be give or take a bit um
in and around.
If I was hitting like 115 to120 grams of protein, that would

(58:09):
be I would be happy with thatI'd be comfortable with that.
Some people again would say well, patty, if you're hitting
somewhere between, say, 90 gramsto 140 grams, you know.
So this is where there's rangesand stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
That's what I kind of hit for 30 grams of protein per
meal, 10 grams of fiber permeal, and that's what I'm kind
of going at at the minute yeah,and then anything else is just a
bonus.
I don't know anything else?

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I can't concentrate on christmas day I definitely
got a lot of protein in.
I was thinking, when I waseating the turkey I was like
protein.
This is all good but no, I'veordered myself some um I haven't
tried the clear way yet.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Have you tried?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
yes, and the clear way.
Now, some of the flavours cantaste very, very artificial.
Oh, I hate that.
I've got two different flavoursdownstairs and they taste very
strong and very, very artificial, so I'm not that keen on them.
So I've got ordered twoflavours One is Mojito and the
other one is Mojito, and I'vehad the mojito one before, so I

(59:20):
know what it's like Slimy, is it?
Yeah, it is very like.
And again the idea is you'dhave that ice cold like really
refreshing yeah.
Then the other one is astrawberry and kiwi one which
I've not had before but I'mhoping will be nice.
Had good reviews online andthen I've ordered um, these
aren't this isn't a clear way,but a flavor of traditional whey

(59:43):
protein that I've had before.
That I was my favorite ever,which was chocolate orange so
I've ordered chocolate orange.
Well, it's not clear way, it'sjust a normal normal protein
powder.
Yeah, that'd be nice so thoseare the three that I've ordered
to see.
Okay, would I be more likely tohave those as, like you know, a
drink once a day, or whateverthe case might be, to help get

(01:00:04):
some of that protein?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Do you take protein powder much?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
No, I have loads downstairs.
I do have a selection.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Of course you do, Paddy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, yeah, I have a selection, but I love it.
Yeah, like I have chocolate, Ihave cinnamon Danish nice.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I only ever have vanilla because of what I
add into it and see vanillawould be one now that I don't
think I'd ever buy yeah, novanilla ice cream, that's what I
have okay, okay, yeah and I putmy chia seeds, I put my um,
what's the other chia seeds andwhat are the other seeds I use,
can't remember and I fill it upwith protein and I fill it up

(01:00:47):
with fiber as well and itbecomes quite high in calories
because naturally I only eattwice a day anyway.
So if I'm taking a shake in themorning and it's got like, I
don't know, 40 grams of proteinand 17 grams of fiber in it and
I'm drinking it and it mighttake me an hour to drink it, but
, I'm set, then I'm set for theday I don't.

(01:01:08):
I can get on with my day and notthink about anything until I'm
supposed to eat my dinner yeah,and that's.
That's what I want from food.
Now I just want to get it intomy body.
I want to make sure it'snourishing my body and I'm
getting exactly what I need, andthen I want to move on from it
yeah, yeah, no, and totallythat's what it should be.
It should be about nourishmentI'm enjoying it as well, um, but

(01:01:29):
it does taste like like icecream as well, so yeah, but
there's so much in them like Iknow that you'd have it up like
oh, I'm treating myself to newair fryer.
Paddy, I'm surprised you'resaying that now of treating
yourself.
You don't treat yourself veryoften, do you?
You stop spending in about twoweeks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
These have been investments in quality of life.
It's been like one present forthe person, five for me, just to
give a balance.
You know, but no, like the airfryer, like I would use the air
fryer like nearly every day weuse ours twice a day, without
fail yeah, like, and so I'mgetting one of the jewel ones

(01:02:14):
that has the two baskets oh no,biggest mistake we ever made why
, because they're tiny Pad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Because they're tiny Paddy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
They're tiny and I do have the ninja.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
They're really small, but there is one you can get
that looks like it's a jewelRight and you open it and
there's a thing in the middle ofit where you can take it out
and it's one big, massive piece,but bear in mind there's only
two of us.
Oh yeah, true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Okay, you'll be fine.
The cat doesn't need a bearfire.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Yeah, it's five of us and two dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
You see, yeah, okay.
Yeah, so I guess that's thedifference.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
No, you'll be fine, I just love them.
Everybody loves them.
Now, so excited so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Everybody loves them now so excited so excited.
We need to do a podcastsometime as well about actually
the tech that we use oh, yes, wespoke about that before, so we
must do that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I can't talk about anything like that.
I can sit and listen, I canlearn the tech I helped Belinda
use.
Yeah, that's do you know wecame on here at half six and we
didn't start till half sevenbecause, lads?
Do you know we came on here athalf six and we didn't start
till half seven because Icouldn't figure out how to get
the echo out of my headphones.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
How did we fix it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
when in doubt, plug it out turn it off, switch it on
fucking idiots I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I love it um.
So I did a trial 5k yesterdayto see how it went on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
How did that go?
I don't want today now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
So the only time I have ever done now I started it
I haven't done 5K in.
I honestly couldn't tell youwhen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Right, do you know?
I'm walking, paddy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah, walking, no problem, but I'm not about
trying to jog as much as I can,yeah, so I started out and I
didn't realise I had my watchset to miles, so it was showing
me three point something milesas opposed to five kilometre and
it's just like, oh shit.
But then it's like, oh,actually, I can break this up
into three segments then.

(01:04:18):
So this so this is my littlepsychological thing I'm doing
for myself is that it's onlythree segments of activity and
this is the way my brain works.
Yeah, exactly this is the way mybrain works.
So, for the first time ever inmy life, I jogged the first mile
completely without stopping.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
I couldn't You'll feel that tomorrow.
I could fucking feel it.
When I got home yesterday on myleft knee, I thought I.
God I've injured myself.
Well, it was just being in your40s and trying to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
It's fine Mid 40s Early Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Well, I'll be 43 in April, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
I'll be 49.
50?
, 49.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Oh yeah you're pre-middle age.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yeah, pre-middle age.
Thanks, paddy.
Pre-middle age.
Do you know what?
I couldn't care less.
I've never cared less about myage, actually in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
I don't, I don't, no, I have to Particularly with the
lights and I'm like, and like Ican see on the camera, I'm like
, oh, there's a gray, there's agray, but then I'm like I don't
really care, do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
what?
Um?
Do you not think that I'movershadowing you just slightly,
because if anyone ever thinksthat my hair is blonde, it's not
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
This is my natural, like gray heart, gray hair and
uh yeah, I'm seeing more andmore grays, but I think it's
just when you see like a randomone and you're like oh, yeah,
but the thing is, with men andgrey hair, it's always this
gorgeous salt and pepper, georgeClooney crack, you know.
Are you saying I am?

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
the George.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Clooney of like the Sligo Leach from area.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yes, absolutely, I'll even write it down for you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
still got it um but um yeah, but I think, uh, that's
the crack from me, for now forme as well I think I'm just
looking at the listings.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I'd written down.
I think that's everything andthis is coming out.
When is this coming out, patty?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
it's coming out on new year's day this is coming
out on new year's eve eve rightokay yeah, yeah, and just just
be very mindful just be mindfulout there guys.
Yeah, very quick turnaround onthis one, belinda, that's
tomorrow.
Yeah well, patty, you betterget to work immediately sorry,

(01:06:40):
yeah, yeah, cracking that whip,um, but anyway, oh god, um, my
little button didn't work there.
There we go, there's my littlebutton.
Oh, the dance music is backthanks for listening in, guys
but into what are you doing?
New year's day absolutelynothing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Oh no, I'm going out for dinner with 15 people, my
family and you.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
em my first official 5k for my fundraiser, oh yeah,
we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
We're gonna be sharing that all week, aren't we
?

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I'm gonna be sharing it all month.
Yeah, let's do it, let's get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Paddy let's get Paddy up to a grand before he knows
it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh god, like that would be just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Oh don't worry, we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
We'll do it so amazing, and then I might need
to treat myself for as a rewardfor doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Tomorrow, though I we're getting I'm going to have
to get Peter's phone number.
Does he know that you're atthis crack all the time,
constantly?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
it's a joy to work, don't worry, the half, it's like
from Timu, it's like, or Klarna, yeah, it's like.
Oh yeah, that cost a fiver,like you know it's like it's
gonna be worth it absolutelyactually I got.
I got runners.
No, I wouldn't wear them forrunning, but I got like things
that go on my feet from Timu andI was like these are going to

(01:07:59):
be, these are going to be shit.
They're actually, they'redecent.
I always think they wouldn'tfit me, they're actually fine my
favourite tracks.
Bottoms are really stretchy onesfrom Timu that are like nine
quid.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I love Timu.
Yeah, there we go, love it,absolutely sorry, I know we're
going to, we're going to get,we're come on, let's get out of
here.
These people have more thingsto be doing now than listening
to us how long are we goingthere?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
just over the hour, just over the hour right.
Belinda, I will talk to yousoon.
Thank you, as always, it's apleasure.
We're going to have a littlebop to the music as it plays out
.
Until next time, happy new yearfrom us both whoop, whoop and
thanks for, like the literallythousands of streams, our
podcast has got since.

(01:08:42):
October 24 when we started.
I think we're at like.
Is it nearly like 7,000 streamsor something?

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yeah, moving up to eight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Yeah, we're doing okay.
We're doing okay.
Thank you so much to everyonefor listening.
We're going to have a littledance.
Okay, that's enough.