We are BACK 🥳 Life update & hello Season 2 [S2E1]

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Speaker 2 (00:29):
And you are very welcome back to episode one,
season two of the Dose.
My name is Paddy and here withme in person is Belinda, it's
Belinda.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh my God, we're here in person.
For how long have we known eachother?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Since, like last summer, so.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Bloody hell, is it.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Like a summertime.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
So like you're talking aboutAugust, Eight months, seven
months, oh my God, six, sevenmonths it really doesn't feel
that long, though I know it doesfor me, yeah, okay.
Well, there we are, and we'reback in the room literally, we
are in a room in my bedroom yeah, in a double bedroom.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I think I have my own , though.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's okay I think it's.
I think it's queen sizeactually, which is probably more
fitting my room is massive.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Compared to this, this is a shit room.
Is yours bigger?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
no, okay, I'd be fucking rich, I'd be down, I
know you would.
I'd be down there throwing sucha bitch fit.
I know, love it.
We've no agenda, we've nothingplanned for this.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I just literally sat down and said to Paddy, did you
like?
What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
No, I wasn't saying did you what, Did you what?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Like did you sort anything out?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did you sort anything out, did you?
We have nothing sorted out.
We've nothing, no, but you knowwhat I think?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
we'll be okay, though We'll find out, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
okay, we might just scrap this whole fucking we
might tomorrow um with an agenda, so we've had a wee break from
the podcast how long have webeen off, paddy?
Well, I don't know when this isgoing to go out, this thing oh,
yeah, but as of today as oftoday, we've had a break for
three, uh, it'll be four, nearlyfour weeks.
Okay, three, four weeks, yeah.
So we last recorded the weekbefore I had my surgery, was it,

(02:28):
I think?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's right, so like .

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So like since then We've had, I've had my surgery.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Been off Monjaro a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh, my goodness as well.
That's what we were Going to betalking about.
Yeah, back on it now, yes,which we'll talk about as well.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
We have each done other podcasts.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah yeah, you're slightly more bloody famous than
mine.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh, no, no, no, no, oh, come on, come on.
So by the time this goes out,there will have been some TV
stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
You have also been on national television.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, so there's stuff to talk about.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, and you've got one coming out as well.
Talk about yeah and you've gotone coming out as well.
Yeah, yeah, and we have got somany good guests lined up for
this season we do which we'renot talking about.
Which we're not talking aboutbecause we haven't even sorted
that out.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
No, we haven't sorted that out which is why I don't
know when this is going to goout, but anyway, yes first of
all sponsored to pay for theirown money yeah yeah, um, I hit a
cart like I offered to help youbut like there's a lot of
equipment, yeah and it's heavy,these things are massive they're

(03:33):
the area, so people arelistening.
It's.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's the microphone did you get this one?
Is this the same one as I've?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
got no, no, that's a different stand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so yeah, soyeah, but this is my proper wee
setup.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, it's really nice, very slick, very bright,
lots of lights.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, no surprise there.
So when you are in a hotel, doyou fleece the room?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Absolutely.
I'm a 16-year-old at home.
That's the last thing she saidto me Bring back everything you
can.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
So what do you normally?
What normally goes in the bag?
I remember this is going to goout after we leave here.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, the light bulbs , the batteries from the remote
control.
What?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
The towels?
Oh my God.
No, Not the towels.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, no, oh yeah, take everything.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm only joking, oh my God.
No, she's not, I am joking no Idon't.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't anymore.
I used to.
I used to.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So it depends how many towels there are, yeah, how
long you're in the room and howmany times they're refreshed,
how many you've hidden Whilstthey're refreshed.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
But also, you have to remember I had a 12 year career
In hotel management.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
And no.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, no, no, you wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, of course you wouldn't do that no, no only
because you know what's going onin the room.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
No, totally so for me , definitely the wee toiletries.
I cannot leave the weetoiletries.
The best haul I ever got wasout in Orlando.
We were staying in UniversalSurfside Inn Suites on
International Drive and it was aroom that could.
It had three double beds so itcould fit six people Right.

(05:09):
It had two bedrooms in it.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Just the two of you.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, nice and.
But the other thing is it comeswith like a little kitchen area
and sitting area.
So that's more so why we'dbooked that.
Yeah, because you have morespace in the room and you can do
a little bit of food and stufflike that.
But as part of that I had rangdown to reception.
I was like, oh here, could weget a refresh of the toiletries
please?
You know, expecting that theywere just going to bring up like
enough for the two people.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
No way.
They brought up enough stufffor six people for like the rest
of the week, so they did.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Because there was, it was a room for six people.
Because it was a room for sixpeople.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Because it was six people and they didn't know how
many people were in the room?
Well, whoever restocked, itmustn't have.
So they literally brought inand I'm not kidding now, because
I had to weigh it when I wascoming home the toiletries that
they left in weighed two kilos.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Five pounds.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, and I had to go through.
Okay, am I really bringingthese home you?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
had to, I had to, I had to, yeah, yeah yeah, you
couldn't.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like they're brilliant for if you're going
away or for the gym or stufflike that they're really good.
Or like I'm a big fan of goingcar camping, which I haven't
spoken about on the podcastbecause we're like that's on
your other Instagram page.
Yeah, it's on my other.
So I have a second Instagrampage called the Irish paddy and
it's kind of you know, last yearI kind of took it upon myself

(06:25):
to go around visiting places inIreland, all this kind of stuff.
But one of the things is I doit in my car and I usually will
sleep in my car.
But it's a bit more glamorousthan that.
Like I have the back made up, Ihave a lovely mattress in there
, duvet, like it is really cosyreally nice, and do you have
curtains?
No, but I did go and get thehighest tint that I could on it,
so you can't see in.

(06:46):
Oh, nice yeah, so it's grand,but yeah, so that's like one of
the things I do.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I love that, but anyway, car camping, car camping
.
So yeah, that's where it's forHotel toiletries, lovely.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, exactly.
So they're happy for that.
But the other thing I do if Iknow I'm going somewhere fancy,
I'll usually bring like an emptySimproof bottle with me.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
What's that?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah For yourgosh.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So here's one I made earlier.
So this is the size of theSimproof bottle Right, and I
will like stand there and justpump the stuff into it.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Pump all the stuff into it If it's good stuff.
I hope this bloody hotel isn'tgoing to be watching this.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I've checked out here .
I wouldn't call it well, no,maybe I'll need to recheck it,
but it didn't seem the fancyfancy no, it's okay, though it's
not bad, the hand soap or thehand moisturiser is nice, okay,
okay, but like some place you'llgo and they might have like
Voya stuff or they'll haveElemis or stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Elemis is the best.
Yes, anything with bergamot init, yes.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So I have a few of these.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
How long does that last you then, when you drink it
?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
ages.
Oh, so a bottle of this, so onebottle of that is that's a
week's worth, oh is that all?
Yeah, we're not talking aboutdrinking the toiletry.
We're talking about that's onebottle A week's worth.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, it's expensive, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, but I think it's so worth it.
Like the thing is, it's well ifyou break it down.
Less than a coffee a day.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Okay, right, do you know what I mean?
And I do buy a coffee a day.
Yeah, exactly Every day.
So like this is 500ml thatbottle but like I have literally
of Voya Live and activebacteria.
This isn't sponsored.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, no, it's not sponsored.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I've heard so many people speaking about that for
their gut.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, and I.
That is one of the thingsSimproof, that I have taken
religiously since day one of mymedicated weight loss journey.
Like day one, I've taken thisbecause the pharmacy gifted me a
box.
At the start you said and I waslike, actually I've washed that
bottle, so there's probably no.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh right, there's nothing.
Yeah, no, that's not it in it,is it?
No?
No, no, all right, that's justwater, in case, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
In case there was a good stash here to fill it with.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Shame, Joseph.
Actually, do you know what I'mreally surprised at myself?
That I've never thought aboutdoing that.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I have heard Go on of people oh my god that like say,
if they go to places like Idon't know, but like imagine
somebody went to, like, say,centre Parcs, and Centre Parcs
is like all Elema stuff and likesome of them would fill a
bottle similar to that withstuff.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Have you been to Centre Parcs?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I've been to Centre Parcs loads of times.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Same, I've been there three times yeah.
But I had never thought ofdoing that.
You obviously robbed the placeblind.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, no, I used to be an altar boy, so like I could
never do things like that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
You were as well, weren't you?
I can tell.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
People outside Ireland are like what?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
is an altar boy.
Oh, I think they might knowactually.
That's a story for a wholeother day, but anyway, a whole
different podcast podcast, awhole different podcast, but
anyway, yeah, so, um, that thatis a, that's a tangent really
good, no, but that's a reallygood idea.
I'm totally gonna do that now umor I love that, yeah, but so I
usually won't do this with mejust in case, yeah just in case,
just in case you know paddy, weneed to talk about you now for

(09:58):
a moment oh god we need to talkabout the most important thing
me yeah oh yeah and then youwent off of your medication to
have an operation.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes, yes not a nose job, as we said last time my
mother was mum was tellingeveryone it was a nose job.
It was a job in my nose yeahbut it was not a nose job.
Yeah, it was a septoplasty, soI've covered this in detail in a
previous podcast so I won't gointo too much.
But basically had a deviatedseptum um, which is a crooked
septum in your nose that cancome from an injury or you can

(10:30):
be born with it or stuff likethat, and, from what I
understand, I don't know how Igot it yeah, because you wanted
it fixed because it impacted mybreathing.
So I went and got it fixed thereum at the very start of
February and um I'm currently inthat healing process.
Still very much so If you hadspoken to me like two weeks ago,
you wouldn't have been able toknow it was you.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
You would have heard a very different Paddy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
But had the surgery.
Surgery went really well.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
And how long before the surgery did you come off of
Monjaro?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I was off Monjaro two weeks before it.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, yes.
So did you come off of Monjaro?
I was off Monjaro two weeksbefore it.
Okay, yes, yeah.
So what I kind of found was sowhat date was that then you came
off of?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh, it would have been like week three of January.
Okay, week three of January.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And we're done now with February.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
We are at the end of February now, so you're five
weeks since.
So five weeks since I firststopped it.
But we'll kind of go through, Iguess, the timeline there.
So, yeah, so I stopped it twoweeks beforehand, which would
have been about week three ofJanuary.
Yeah, I had the surgery the endof week one of February or
something like that.
One of the biggest things thatsurprised me was how quickly

(11:38):
that feeling actually we spokeabout this in the last podcast
how quickly that sensation ofnot being able to feel full came
back.
Yeah, so, different from foodnoise, yeah, yeah, we touched on
it.
Oh, yeah, we did.
Yes, so, not food noise, but Iwill touch on that as well.
Yeah, but, um, and this was areal moment of realization for
me.
So go back and listen to theprevious podcast definitely

(11:59):
stopping when, jaron, you'llhear a lot more about this, but
anyway.
So that feeling of not beingable to feel full has been a
constant since.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Still.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So up until I am now back on Munjarro.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, go back though and say when you started, yeah,
so as of the time, and I will.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So I had essentially four weeks there thereabouts,
maybe a bit more of essentiallyfour weeks there thereabouts,
maybe a bit more of three and ahalf four weeks of pretty much
an inability to feel in any wayfull how quickly after you
stopped your medication did thatfeeling come back I would say
about day, day five ish yeahthat's how long it takes, isn't

(12:41):
it?
Yeah, I for that medication togo out of your system.
Now probably Well it's lessons,it's the half-life, it's not
completely gone, like it kind ofreduces gradually over a number
of weeks.
But I was shocked at how as Italked about in the previous
podcast how hungry I thought Iwas, but obviously I now know it

(13:02):
wasn't hunger, it was aninability to feel full.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
But yeah, and that was horrible.
Yeah, was that more of afeeling of like you could have
kept eating?
Oh yeah, oh, I could have and Idid.
Yeah, I did Belinda yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Because I say it took me a bit of time to get to that
realization that I wasn'tactually hungry.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.
You know, to that realizationthat I wasn't actually hungry.
Yeah, you know, and it was whenyou started eating, so you
couldn't make yourself feel full.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
You couldn't get that sense of yeah.
Even in between meals, nomatter what throughout the day,
no matter how much I ate, Iwould not feel full see, that's
just scares the fucking shit outof me and that reminds me of
what life was like before westarted the medicated journey
and it, just, it, just, it wasscary thinking, oh my God.

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So I did do a few days oftracking my food and my fitness
pal to kind of see, okay, whatwas my intake.
I didn't do that for the fullfew weeks.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I had thought I would but I thought you know you
planned it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I thought this is not realistic.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
This is not it's not going to be realistic, for me
Especially when you yeah, Ithought this is not realistic.
This is not.
It's not gonna be realistic forme, especially when you but the
thing is patty you did thatbefore.
Yeah, you did the whole fitnesstracking stuff and stuff.
But I think because you hadbeen in that period of what
seven months?
Yeah of not needing to do thatand like very intuitive yeah
yeah, and leaning into themedication and your fitness and
all the rest of it, then yeahyeah and then okay.

(14:23):
So after you had the realizationabout the um not being able to
feel full, yeah, when did you?
Can you pinpoint if the foodnoise came back?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
yes, the, the, the food noise came back.
Uh, it would have been, uh,three weeks after I stopped okay
and I was in Westport and Iremember waking up you knew.
I knew I woke up and instantlyit was like food.
Immediately, that little radiowas back in my head.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Three weeks not too bad, no.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Not too bad.
I was surprised.
I thought that would have comeback sooner.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's not that's not like for everyone, no, no.
For everyone no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It differs massively, massively as with any kind of
you know journey that people areon, or treatment or medication,
whatever people's biology canimpact how how you know it
reacts to them.
But for me I was surprised thatthe food noise didn't come back
for three weeks.
Yeah, I thought it would comeback quicker based on what I'd
seen on tiktok from other peopleand stuff like that, but
definitely that hole in mystomach was just could not fill

(15:24):
it which was worse?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
which did you find harder to handle being off the
medication?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
the inability to feel full.
Right, okay, because I now knowthat that is a feeling of
almost satisfaction, if thatmakes sense, a contentment or
something that like I'm full,I'm grand, I don't need to think
about food or anything likethat.
Or you know, I don't need tothink about food or anything
like that.
Or, you know, don't need toworry about where the food has
come from or what we're havingor anything like that.
I'm okay, I'm grand, I've hadmy feed.

(15:51):
Um, like, no, like the amount oftimes again I've gone like, say
, the sugary stuff, the sweetstuff, having to have that
multiple times.
I say having because my body isdriving me to have it.
I know it's not a case I'll dieif I don't have it, but I mean
in terms of the drive that I wasgetting from my body in like
that whole thing again couldeasily eat multiple bars of

(16:13):
chocolate, that very sweet tooththat I had, standing multiple
times in the fridge, opening thefridge again and this
difference.
Now I can be like what are youdoing here?
Not every time, sometimes thefridge won, but again I'd be
like what are you doing here?
so there was some realisation ofthat were you able to pull back
from it sometimes right,sometimes because again I would
be like is that only because youtalked yourself out of it.

(16:33):
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, you had to make an effort, absolutely yeah it wasn't like
opening the because when you'reon your medication.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
And I know this and I still.
I'm two and a half years in andI still still can't believe
that when I open the fridge andthere's a chocolate cake in
there.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I close the fridge and I walk away.
It's absolutely mind-blowing,still to me.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
And this one thing.
So I went back and was aboutwhere there was a bar of
chocolate in the fridge, likemonths ago, and I was able to
open it, have like one or two,like one or two little squares,
and I felt satisfied, contentfrom it and grinned and just
walked away.
Whereas the past few weeks nota hope.
If there would have been threechocolate bars in there, I
probably would have been again.
Yeah, Not because I would haveneeded them, anything whatsoever

(17:18):
like that, just because thatold sensation in my body that I
had before last summer back fullforce.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Okay.
So then I suppose there's thisbig, huge thing, isn't there
with GLP-1 medications, thatthere is a party of people out
there that will say thismedication is for life.
Yes, and you have to have thisfor life.
And then there's another partyof people that will say that
while you're in this period ofmedical weight loss, then you
should be able to retrain yourbrain, you should be able to
retrain yourself yeah now thething that I say with that is

(17:54):
listen, if I couldn't do thatfor 30 solid years on my goddamn
own, after trying, I can't even.
There's no number.
There's no number that couldsay the amount of times I tried,
same as yourself.
Like it's not, I don't, I don'tbelieve it.
I don't believe that being inthis state is possible to live

(18:15):
like this out of without aweight loss medication.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I don't, I know that's controversial, but I
don't really care well, I think,for the, the experts that we
follow and that we kind ofrespect and that we have trusted
from their advice and stufflike that.
The oracles, the oracles DrCrotty last week, but like a lot
of those, would indicate thatthis is a long term treatment

(18:40):
because, as we again would say,for us we see this as a
treatment, not a cure yeah thesame way that you're not going
to say to you know somebody withhigh cholesterol, yeah, or a
diabetic or something like thator just train yourself to do
this or do that you know trainyour body but anyway.
So that was the experience ofkind of the food and then

(19:01):
starting back.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
So how many weeks ago did you start?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
back just a week ago, within the past week.
Oh, was it only a week?
Yeah, just over a week ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I thought, it was two no, no, no right so what did
you start off doing then?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
so I had contacted, which is very paddy.
Like I said, I'll find out theanswer.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I'll ask every single person.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I know, so I asked multiple medical professionals.
These are fully qualifieddoctors, etc.
Yeah, About what should mystarting restarting regime look
like?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Saying that you had come away from it.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
For a number of weeks before surgery.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
And you were on previous when, before you came
off 15 milligram 15 milligram.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, so I was on the highest dose of Manjaro, which
is treatment.
I am on 15 milligram once aweek and I got answers varying
from.
You can go on.
You can resume your treatmentthe day after surgery to.
You can resume it a week afterto.
You can resume it two weeksafter to.
It could be four weeks or morebefore you can resume it.
So I got very inconsistentanswers.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm not saying any of them give me wrong information.
Yeah, but there isn't.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
There wasn't alignment on how it resumes for
me.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Did you reach out to the manufacturers?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
No, no, okay, because they won't give you medical
advice.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, they won't Right.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
And that's not their job.
Yeah, that's not their job.
Yeah, like the doctors and theprescribers and the experts that
are trained in this, this iswhere I think often they will
use their judgment, based on apatient and their medical
situation, to make a judgment onit, and I think that's why I
was getting different answers.

(20:47):
And depending on your ownbiology and age and weight and
height and everything.
So, like I don't think anyonetold me wrong information as
such, I just think it showed, um, maybe just some of the
discrepancies and in how, yeah,people think about and give
advice on this.
But, like, the things that Itook away from it was that kind
of post-surgery.
There wasn't like a clinicalrisk as such, if you get me in

(21:07):
terms of when I go back on it.
It was more so theconsiderations were resuming it
too early could result in itslowing down healing for me.
Yeah, if I had a large gap of anumber of weeks and restarted
back on that high dose of 15,that I could have some side
effects yep, definitely wouldhave so these were the things,

(21:29):
so I didn't have a clear answerto go with right.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So you took matters into your own hand, and what did
you do?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
so, yeah, I tried to look at the various bits of
information I'd been given and Isaid, right, do you know what?
So that I was like multiplepeople had told me I could start
on maybe 7.5 again.

(21:55):
Yeah, but 7.5 but I said youknow what I'm actually curious
to see um as well.
Now other people I said I I hadgot different advice from
different places but I includein one place it did mention 2.5.
So I said, okay, I'm going torestart on the 2.5.
It's the lowest dose.
Again, I know there's beenother people that after periods

(22:17):
of weeks have restarted on 2.5and stuff like that.
But I was curious to see aswell how is this going to impact
my body.
Like was I going to get that,what we call that therapeutic
response, again from it?
So I took the first dose of 2.5.
Off 2.5 and it was nothing,right, yeah, nothing, which is

(22:41):
why I've been thrown out thewindow.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Nothing whatsoever so when you, when you started
going back on the medicationyeah did you have at any point
in your mind that you know Imight just see now where I would
land if I was in maintenance atthis point?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like have I lost like a hundred pounds?
Yeah, definitely, definitelyyeah yeah.
That was partly in my mind aswell.
To see, okay, where it's goingto be interesting to see, where
does my body get that response?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, and how long.
It would last yeah, when youget to that stage that you are
getting a therapeutic response,how long can you get out of?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
that yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know, looking at maintenance kind of as well.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Anyway, go on, yeah, and then moved to more recently
to the five milligram Right.
So five milligram surprised me,okay, given that I was on 15,
whatever, for I can't rememberthe weeks.
A good few weeks ago, um, fivemilligram, I did get a bit of a
response from um, which lasted,I would say, maybe two, two days

(23:49):
, maybe two to three days so Idid get some response from it
yeah, yeah, you weren'texpecting it, were you I?
wasn't expecting that, no.
Right okay, I wasn't.
It was pretty short-lived, yeah, but I did, I did get that, and
then how long did you give that?
Then you went how long did yougo on to the 2.5,?

(24:12):
I took the 5.
Right, okay, because you haveto leave a week between them.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, okay.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, so that was why and actually I'm just thinking
you're right it is two weekssince I started back.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I was thinking it was yeah, because you've done yeah
yeah, yeah, Because I'm justthinking.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
sure, I took 7.5 yesterday.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
So you're going into your third.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
So yeah, you're right , I get so confused all the days
.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I'm always right.
You don't have your spreadsheetin front of you.
I don't have my spreadsheet.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I know so, so I've taken so five milligram.
Yeah, there was a a short livedresponse from it Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
So a couple of days, a couple of days, and then you
went for maybe four days withoutany response from it at all.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes, Okay, yes, okay, absolutely right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, just like I had nothingwhatsoever, um, and then so just
took 7.5 yesterday, okay, and Ido feel again that I do have
that sensation of not being hungof, of of feeling full okay,
good okay let me rephrase thatI'm feeling full yeah, yeah,
yeah so I would say throughoutlike what you ate earlier on.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Now you get a.
Did you get your feeling fromthat?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
So I wasn't even hungry eating that.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah right, I don't know what I ordered.
That what I ordered.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
So, like earlier on, I had some protein at breakfast
and had coffee, and then atlunch I said I was going to get
some soup and some brown bread,which I did, but I wouldn't say
I had that sensation of needingfood.
No, whereas right now, becauseI know we're going for dinner
after this as well, I do feelthat physical hunger yeah which

(25:43):
is what I want yeah, I amstarting to feel a little bit
like on that hunger scale I'dsay I'm like maybe a six tipping
into a seven.
Now yeah, yeah, so by the timewe get down for dinner, I'd say
I probably will be hungry yeahbut which is normal, and that's
even when I was on 7.5 or evenwhen I was on 15 before.
If you go long enough withoutfood, you're you are gonna feel
hungry eventually the thing aswell, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (26:01):
that's another like people think that it's a red
flag when you're on this oh mygod, no, no, no, hunger yeah you
have to feel hungry like youabsolutely must feel hungry like
I think if somebody is chasing24-7 suppression, yeah, they're
not going to find that you.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You need to have a chat with yourself, probably
with with yourself but with yourdoctor, and probably yeah, no,
but, all jokes aside, probablyI'm not being flippant about
that now, but yeah yeah, butanyway, so that's going to be
the journey.
People go in expecting that,but it's not, but that's been
the kind of journey so far.
That yeah, but two weeks backon 7.5, I'd be interested to see

(26:40):
how many days I get out of itdo you think you're going to get
a couple of days longer maybeout of this?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'd hope so.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I would hope so too, but then if I look at when I
moved from 10 to 12.5 rightmoved from 10 to 12.5 right and
12.5 wasn't that therapeutic forme yeah even though it was a
stronger dose for me yeah, 10did nothing for me, yeah it's
just a and this is differenteverybody's journey is so
different yeah so different yeahand like as much as we share

(27:08):
ours, you can't use ours forcomparison.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Or you can't use people on tiktok or instagram
for comparison you can't useanybody's no, you can't, you
can't nothing, no, absolutely.
Tiktok or Instagram forcomparison.
You can't use anybody's storyas a comparison.
Nothing, absolutely nothing.
Yeah, you just don't compareyourself to others, because it
really does suck the joy out ofeverything.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Absolutely, and you can start getting worried about
things, and what about this,what about that?
And that's why your doctor,your doctor, your doctor, your
doctor, your doctor.
That is the person to havethose chats with.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
But anyway, so yeah, yeah, so that's been a journey,
that has been a journey over thelast five, six, six weeks,
actually, is it?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
yeah, it must be so, anyway so are you just relieved
to be back on it?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
now yes, massively, because weight oh god which we
haven't spoke about.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
I know what you're going to talk about, go on yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
So I knew, based on my lifetime of diets and when
diets pause and all that kind ofstuff, I knew there would be
weight gain.
I had hoped, or maybe if Icould say the same, but when I
quickly saw the way that my bodywas responding again when I
come off the treatment, I knewmy weight was going to go up.

(28:10):
I wasn't overly concerned aboutthis, though.
You know I was down 95 pounds,was it, or whatever the case, at
the start of the treatment.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
So you knew you had a few pounds to play around with.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, I wasn't like.
In the grand scheme of things,yeah.
Like this isn't, it's not asprint, like it's not a rush to
do anything.
You've done it so quicklyanyway, yeah my body responded
quickly yeah, so, like I wasn'tin any rush to get anything
Right, to achieve anything, butanyway.
So over the space of the four,four hopeful weeks, four to five

(28:44):
weeks, whatever it was, itended up being that I regained
14 pounds in one stone.
Yeah, easy, easy, not shocked.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Not shocked by that at all.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
14 pounds, one stone yeah, easy, easy, not shocked
not shocked by that at all ifyou are somebody who has not
lived a life of relapsing withyour weight, you could be
shocked by a number of how inGod's name could somebody?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
did you put up a stone?
How did you put up a stone?
What were you gorging on?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
and I understand why people can think that, but I
think for those that aresupporting patients like
ourselves that are on thistreatment, or for people that
have lived with the life ofrelapsing.
They will absolutely get howthat happens and why that
happens and they will not bestunned by that.
They will not be stunned at all.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
They'll probably think oh god, I thought I'd be
more now the other thing is Iknow I have always regained very
quickly yeah, always, same,always, especially coming off of
the back of eating well andhealthy and doing all the things
.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
The other thing is, though, I know I typically lose
weight pretty quickly as well.
Yeah, so I do so.
Again, I'm not worried aboutany of that at all, and again,
some people might believe me,but I'm genuinely not in any way
, you know, it's ahead of younow, patty and if you had.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
If that happened to you, like last year, you'd put
up.
You'd put up a stone.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
In four weeks you'd be I would have gone, fuck this
yep and that would have been aredapse yep, and you would have
went worse absolutely yeah, andthat could have been six months
down.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
A fucking dark hole for you, 100%, 100%.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
But now I have my stabiliser to help me.
Yes, again, like the otherthings over the past few weeks,
like I haven't been able to dothe gym, haven't been able to do
like my swimming, my sauna,things that I love.
So I am going to be able torestart the gym in, like the sun

(30:36):
and stuff.
So like I'm really excited bygetting that.
So that's.
The other thing is that thosekind of lifestyle interventions
that people tell you to do, Ijust haven't been allowed to do
them workouts because of thesurgery and that so, literally,
I've been allowed walk and I'vebeen allowed rest that's it but

Speaker 1 (30:53):
that's okay, but like you know what, but it's what my
body needed yeah, but it's alsogoing to come to a lot of
people yeah, yeah, yeah yourjourney that you've just gone
through is going to come to anawful lot of people.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, absolutely so but anyway, so that has been.
It's a lot, paddy, yeah, butreally interesting, really
insightful for me, really,really insightful for me, really
really insightful.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I'm looking forward to hearing you like what you
have to say about what's coming.
You know the, the titration inthe doses and how long you're
getting suppression out of themand stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, because I'm going to follow it through.
I am going to like, even if I'mgoing to go, like to the 10, to
the 12.5 are you going to spendfour weeks on each one?
No.
No you're just going to go oneweek each.
That was the medical advice Igot, that I could, because I'd
been on 15 before that.
It was safe for me to titrateup Quicker, kind of quicker, yes
.
So again, that's not me justpulling something out of the sky

(31:46):
, that was advice that I gotfrom.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Sound advice yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Because again I went to four can I yeah, five
different places asking for this.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah so if you go to say you're on 7.5 now, if in say
if this lasts you for the week,then that's great, will you go
straight into 10 withoutthinking, oh well, 7.5 has given
me a little bit of if I got theweek out of 7.5 is giving me a
little bit of.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
If I got the week out of 7.5, I would do another week
in 7.5.
Got it?
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And then, when you go up to 10, Same, same.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'll do the same, yeah, yeah, you're not going to
shoot back up again.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You want to do the journey.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, no, I'm not in any rush.
Let's see, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, that's.
What you need to do is to work,because I've spoke to other
people that had surgery,different types of surgery,

(32:43):
different intensities, you know,different types of anesthetic,
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
So yeah yeah, um, but yeah, that's been kind of my
insight with and while you weregoing through that, did you
reach out to anybody personallythat has had an operation or
anything?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
and so they reached out to me Right, okay, I had a
number of people the days that Iput up about the surgery itself
, like I didn't put up a pictureof me like in my bed in the
hospital because I'm oh, youshould have put it on.
Facebook.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
No, it's one of my kind of little little icks yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, it's justyeah, but anyway social media
icks, we both have them yeah nowand that's not speaking bad of
people to do that.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's just one of the things that, for me, I would see
it an ick towards myself yeahbut, so people reached out to
you and told you their stories.
Yes, right, yes.
So stories?
Yes, right, yes.
So there was a good few peoplereached out that had different
types of surgery under generalanaesthetic and what their
journey was like Again,different people that were told
different amounts of timebeforehand to stop, different

(33:41):
amounts of time afterwards whatthe need for doses.
So, even from the people I spokewith, I didn't get a general
consensus of what it wasdifferent because, again, it's a
personal journey and Igenuinely mean that.
That's where your doctorwhoever you know works with you
to determine what is the besthealthcare approach for you.
Yeah, um, it's not a blanket, isit exactly, exactly, um, but

(34:04):
yeah, so that has been the lastfew weeks I am.
I'm looking forward to gettingback, you know, into my routine
and say off, working out, off myfood, all that kind of stuff.
Um, again, and yeah, but nothings have been good.
It's been a very good few weeks, though.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
It has like, in fairness, like, and I think and
you had some time off work aswell had some time, which I
didn't want, but the doctor made, you didn't yeah your job.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Like people that know me will know how difficult that
was for me.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I am not good at sitting down like I'm not yeah
yeah, for some people it's theirsound it's like it doesn't sit
well with me either yeah, somepeople are like oh my god, that
sounds amazing, you get to sitdown and do nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm like no, this is like hell to me.
But like I'd say to the doctoroh, look at it.
You know, I work from home, Iuse my laptop and still I was
like, oh God.
So that was very tough,psychologically, very tough.
Waking up every day, because itwas almost like I didn't have a
purpose any day.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Now I know my purpose was to heal.
I do know that, but in terms ofday, and it's not as if I could
go out to the beach or I couldgo to the gym that I could walk,
bearing in mind I had justfinished a full month of doing
5k every day.
So like walk.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I know you were done with that as well, richard.
Walking wasn't really one ofthe things, something you were
missing.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, exactly, but but anyway, yeah, so that's been
the last kind of six-ish weeksand is the podcast you were on
well before that, because youspoke about me for a lot alright
, okay.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well, nothing's happened in my life in the past
month nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
No, no, no.
So talk to me about.
You went on a podcast recently.
Do you know when that is goingto air?
No, but I think it's probablygoing to be aired before this
comes out okay so we can talkabout that, yeah, okay so if
people haven't heard the podcastor know of it, tell us what is
the podcast first of all, andwho is it with.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Okay, so it's called the.
Plus Sides podcast and Kim andKath run it.
It's an award-winning podcast.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Is it Irish?
No, it's American.
Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's won so many awards over in the States and
they are just so much fun.
So, much fun.
They're on their own journeys,their own medical weight loss
journeys, and Bear is Kim'shusband.
I think he's on it as well.
I think, yes, I think he is.
Yeah and yeah, they were justreally warm, really welcoming,

(36:31):
brilliant, and we had loads offun.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And was it just you on it?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
No, just really warm, really welcoming, brilliant,
and we had loads of fun.
And was it just you on it?
No, no, no, we had Dr MickCrotty on there as well.
We were so wooning.
Yeah, oh God, the three of us.
It was so funny Before he cameon obviously, oh God I think at
one stage I called him theoracle.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, so Dr Mickrotty Is one of the people that we
look up to and have done for along time.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, that's where we go to.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
So Dr McCrotty Was one of the first people Two and
a half years ago, maybe morethat I heard talking About
obesity In a way that did notMake me feel Shamed, or guilted
about something yeah.
And it.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So he runs my Best Weight.
Yes, he's the founder of myBest Weight, which?

Speaker 2 (37:18):
is a multidisciplinary weight
management service based in theRepublic of Ireland.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's not fully multidisciplinary though.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Like as in.
Like, you can choose to meetwith a dietitian.
If you want, you can choose tomeet with an exercise expert or
you can choose to meet with anendocrinologist.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Everybody's there health coaches, everything.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But if you want them, yes, if you need them, so you
could go and just meet with thedoctor, with Mick, and kind of
go through your kind of journeyand get your treatment and care
via him.
But there is the kind of andagain, this is now.
I haven't been a patient, I'vespoken to so many that are,
though so it's kind of like okay, I'm, I'm on this journey, I'm
working with this doctor.
But you know what I'd like toadd on?

(37:59):
Maybe with a movementspecialist and they, or with a
dietician they have.
Josh, they have their you know,yeah, so they have a few
different kind of options there,but like I, but like I love the
content that they put out.
It is so just.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
He's so informative isn't he?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
And he's so eloquent in the way he speaks about it
and so knowledgeable.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, he told his story about how he got into it
and I'd love to talk to himabout that someday actually.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, I totally would have been a fanboy about it.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Oh yeah, we totally were yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Because I even like, on the way down here, I was
re-listening to his interview onTV3, a Persian media.
Oh, it's going to be TV3.
I know yeah, On Ireland AM.
And again, it's just.
It's so nice to hear peoplespeaking in such an easy way to
understand about the disease ofobesity and trying to change
that narrative within societyand within healthcare and

(38:54):
advocating for it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And that's what he's all about.
Yeah, it is, he's all about it.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
So I'm very jealous.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, I'm very jealous.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well, you Well anyway .
So so what can I think?
I don't really come to that,but what kind of bits did you
get to talk?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
about.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
We spoke about it.
I can barely remember now.
To be honest, I'm a bit jealousof the podcast in America
because they have such strongsay free speech yes, they are.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
They can literally say what they like.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Say anything in Ireland for people that don't
know.
In Ireland it is very governed,it's very strict the area and
we're finding that out verystrict.
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's verystrict um especially around
social media especially onsocial media.
And yeah, I think it's going tobe an interesting kind of few
months and a few years ahead inireland, but anyway, in in

(39:43):
america, you know there'sthere's a lot of things that
people mightn't be admiring atthe moment.
But anyway, we're not goingdown that rabbit hole.
But it is one of the thingsthat I think is interesting is
kind of like their free speechthing.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, but I think the biggest thing we spoke about
was access to the medication.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Because it's so expensive there.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
And how it's?
It's not.
It's not health care, it'swealth care.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
But and it'd be interesting to see though but
it's the same here now, paddy.
Well, this is what I was goingto say.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, it's exactly the same here.
If you can't afford thatmedication for the disease of
obesity, then you're not gettingit.
You're absolutely not gettingit here, and it's the same over
in the States as well, except atleast they can get their
insurance to cover.
Yeah, different insurancegroups cover some of them won't

(40:34):
cover others, but nobody willcover anything over here.
Yeah, you know, it's so unfair.
And they're, they're just.
That's just because peoplestill do not recognize obesity
as a disease the same as everyother disease.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But sure we see that in our social media comments
every day, yes, especially onTikTok it's wild, tiktok it's
wild it's wild over there.
Tiktok is the wild west,alright scares the shit out of
me.
It's gas, but yeah, no,definitely there is still like,
and I even did a video about itrecently because I had a comment
on TikTok about oh, I lostthree stone and you just need to

(41:14):
you know, do movement and focuson your thing.
Essentially, you eat less, movemore, that's all you need to do
.
And I just thought of it.
First of all, fair play to youon losing three stone that is
amazing.
Absolutely, you know.
But unfortunately some peoplehave a relapsing disease which
is, you know, impacting themlifelong and for, for those
people, your approach of justeat less, move more, may not be

(41:36):
an effective intervention forthem.
you know, and we have, we havedata to kind of to see that and
to back that up yeah, so okay,so that podcast might be out now
, we think by the time this onecomes out yeah, yeah, I'm sure
she'll let me know I justhaven't, but again, what's it
called?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
plus side, plus sides podcast yes, it's kim and kath
and they're on instagram as well, all of their um, all of their
podcasts are actually oninstagram, cool, and they I
think they did one the othernight as well.
They did it live.
I haven't managed to keep up orsee it yet or listen to it, but
it was about, um, glp1 babies.

(42:13):
Oh, okay, people that had lostso much weight and was able to
go on and get pregnant and havemore babies.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Okay, okay, okay so.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm looking forward to listening to that as well.
Cool cool.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, nice one, but it is a thing you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool, so thatwas the podcast.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
That was it.
Yeah, that's kind of all that'sreally happened, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
You're still in the gym.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
God, yes, I'm still in the gym.
Brilliant, do you know?

Speaker 2 (42:39):
what I am so happy Like we're now two and a half
months nearly since you startedthe gym.
It is Because it was beforeChristmas.
Yep, 14th of December, mymother's birthday, thinking at
the time this woman's madstarting this just before.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Christmas and I kind of stopped drinking as well well
, I've had a couple of fuckingbad nights on it since then, but
yeah, are you having a drinktonight?
Yeah, I probably only have oneglass, though, okay check back
later.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
No, no, check the Instagram stories later folks.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Paddy, what time is it?
It's ten past seven.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I can't wait to go to bed okay, calm down, it's not
that type of podcast.
The only reason I came up herewas to get a bit of peace and
quiet okay, I thought you weregoing to say you're going
somewhere, you need to come uphere oh god, there's way too
many, way too many connotations,yeah but, yes, the gym,
absolutely flying it in the gym.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
And have I done anything else?
I've been really consistentwith my Pilates and I'm so
fucking strong in my Pilates nowso strong.
Eimear, my Pilates instructoreven said it to me, and I think
I did over a minute plank, whichI've never done in three years
so I I would struggle with aminute plank.
Like I would would struggle witha minute plank.

(43:53):
Yeah, like I would reallystruggle with a minute plank,
yeah, yeah, we could do a minuteplank now.
I couldn't.
I couldn't take my shoes offfor you now, paddy, I'm so tired
oh god but um yeah, so that'sgoing really really well.
And again, I spoke to Eimearlast week, my platties
instructor, and she's going tocome on and I'm going to have a
little chat with her and we'regoing to record it as well.

(44:15):
Yeah, just around, maybe didyou record did you record a
podcast before?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
with who?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
with Eimear twice, nope, no three times and I'm
still mortified about it threetimes we tried to record the
podcast the first time Icouldn't hear her audio on it,
the second time I couldn't hearmy audio on it, and then the

(44:46):
third time it just didn't recordgosh so what we've decided to
do the next time is you're goingto come on?
Oh, am I oh no, you're notgoing to be in the podcast.
You're just going to be comingon to make sure everybody's
talking properly into properthings and it's recording.
I know, oh, we know it's rude.
We're fully aware tough shitbut yeah, that's kind of been it

(45:08):
.
Really, I'm doing my aquaaerobics and what else fitting
into clothes better.
That's what I've been doing.
I took three tops out of thewardrobe this morning to get
something nice to wear, andthree of them just yeah, didn't
fit me.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, I had.
I had stuff pulled out to weardown here and I put it on me and
I was like I was fuckinghanging off me.
Yeah, do you know?
Yeah, and do you?

Speaker 1 (45:34):
know what the really weird thing is is that, like I'm
losing a pound here and a poundthere and whatever, but I'm not
losing pounds compared to myinches yes, do you know what I
mean?

Speaker 2 (45:46):
am I saying that right?
Yeah, yeah, so your body ischanging shape.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Oh my god my body is changing shape.
So much now.
Actually, somebody commented oninstagram today, my, my friend
Harper from I think it's Florida, she's from, I think she'll
probably you know if I get thatwrong, anyway and she said that
she could see the definition inmy legs, even on Instagram, and
I was delighted with myself.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
And this is where.
So I'm going to take that?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And this, like I haven't lookedat your, you know, yeah, I'll
show them to you later on wrongtree hell, yeah, sean, you're

(46:25):
just not thinking, oh god it'sgetting late, paddy, but yeah,
but but that's where that bodycompetition thing.
And then that comes back tohealth, because you're focusing
on health and you're focusing onmuscle and you're focusing on
your muscle health.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
And your body health.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Over a number on the scales, which is so much more
healthy?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, it is, and it's so freeing as well and honestly
my coach from the gym Text tosay that your next in body scan
is due.
And I said, oh my God, really,I just felt like I just did that
.
And she said, no, that was fourweeks ago and I was there.
Like, do I want to do?

(47:02):
I don't want to know anythingabout my weight, I really don't.
So I might just not botherlooking and she can just give me
the information about my fatloss and my muscle gain.
Yeah, now she said it won't be,as it usually isn't as good as
the first time that you start.
Yeah that's the same withlosing weight, yeah yeah.

(47:24):
We'll see how that goes as well.
That's exciting yeah it'sreally exciting for everyone.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, so then a week ago or so, just over a week ago
from when we were recording this, I was out in Donnybrook in RTE
.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
For the Late Late Show.
So, for people outside ofIreland, the Late Late Show is
the world's longest running chatshow.
Yep.
So it is, believe it or not,and the current host is Patrick
Keelty, who is married to KathDeely.
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Oh, is it, Is it?

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Have I made that up?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh no, kath, no way, kath Deely, no way, she's
English, isn't she?
Yeah, yeah, no, she's with yourman, the tall, dark-haired
fella.
Am I right?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I'm quickly googling here.
Yeah yeah, spouse, cat Dealeyoh Married in 2012.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Oh, she's a blonde girl.
Yeah, I thought she was marriedto some host.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Chat show host in the UK.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, yeah, so there you go, but yes, he's quite good
.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
He's a good presenter .

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, so I was invited out as part of the
publicity for a TV documentarythat I am on.
I know we've alluded to this.
I don't think we've reallyspoke about it, though we
weren't allowed?
No, so we haven't really spokeabout it.
So last August God was it.
Like three and a half four orthree, I don't know how many

(48:57):
stone ago, maybe three, was itLike three and a half four?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
or three, I don't know how many stone ago, maybe
three stone ago.
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I filmed a documentary for RTE.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Can I just intersect?
Yeah, I was also invited on andI said no.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
But, like it was, a life was in a different place
for you.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Life's in a different place for you Biggest mistake
in my life so far, but look atit.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
There'll be more opportunities.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yes, yes, yes, it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Actually, that was another thing we never talked
about.
Newstalk.
Oh yes, oh my God, yeah.
So last August I filmed withCatherine Thomas and her lovely
producer Judy, and they camedown for a couple of days down
to where I live and they did abit of filming in the radio
station where I work catherinethomas is very um famous in

(49:43):
ireland.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yes, as well.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, um, yeah, so we did a good bit of filming, uh,
just about my journey, about, um, my experience with uh manjaro,
about how I was accessing it,because obviously it wasn't
available in the Republic ofIreland at that time.
So, yeah, so, like, we coveredquite a bit.
Obviously, I don't know howmuch is going to make the show

(50:04):
yeah, yeah, how much you'regoing to be in it but like I
didn't realise that it's two onehour shows oh, yeah, with the
breaks and that pattern, yeah,but that's still a decent amount
of air time but you actuallyhad Johan Harry as well yeah,
yeah, yeah done.
A lot of work has gone into this.
A lot of work has gone into itso.
I believe it's mostly episode 2.

(50:25):
I think it is that I'm in, butthe ads for it are on at the
moment and I'm on the ads yeah,which is nice, and Ashley is on
the ads as well yes, ashley ison the podcast.
Yeah, absolutely, ashley's inDublin at the moment with the
what's the show.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Future Beauty Show.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Future Beauty Show but we'll meet up in Dublin and
we'll be yeah, we will, we'll goup to her but yeah.
So I was invited out to RT justto give a bit of a contribution
because Catherine Thomas wasgoing to be on the Late, late
Show talking about the show,yeah, and who were you Go on.
With Professor Doctor DonalO'Shea, who is like one of the

(51:05):
most kind of I'd say respectedand kind of senior people,
obesity wise, within the HSE.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, but he is the lead, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And he is somebody who has been involved with like
both GLP-1 and obesity for likedecades decades yeah.
And we were in the.
I brought my sister with me,frances, and we were in the
green room out in RTE, which iswhere, like, I was kind of
waiting before you'd be broughtout for your little bit and I

(51:34):
just looked and like Paddy wasfanboying, I wasing, I was I was
like oh my god, there's DonalShea beside me.
There's Donal Shea, I reallyrespect.
I really respect that man,really respect that man like,
he's like, oh god tell everybodywhat you didn't do what didn't
I do you didn't tell them aboutour podcast no, because it
wasn't appropriate it's alwaysappropriate.
I am not like that.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Oh my god, it's the most appropriate thing.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
You could have spoken .
I would have went right inthere for the juggler.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I'm surprised you're not telling me off for telling
Patrick Kielty that we'd run onthe Little Eight show did you
not mention her?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
did you not tell Patrick Kielty that we'd run?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
on, did you not watch ?
Yes, of course I did no soanyway, Anyway, we were in and,
yeah, like he you know, don'tknow what didn't and was in the
green room as well and sat downwith myself and my sister got to
chat to him for, like, maybe Idon't know four to five minutes
beforehand after we make up, didyou have a drink and like just

(52:28):
mingle and stuff, yeah, yeahyeah, well, like water and still
crisps and stuff, but yeah,just such such a like tick box
kind of.
Oh my god, this was on my listof people I would love to sit
down and have a conversationwith and did you speak about?
Did.
You spoke a little bit about myjourney, my experience, some

(52:48):
about his and stuff like that,and then just random life stuff.
So I, it was just amazing, likesuch.
I would have totally went intointerview mode no, like such I
would have totally went intointerview mode.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
No, you tried not to, did you?
No, I was just no, it was justin the moment.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
In the moment, yeah just for what it was, yeah, so
that was really nice.
It was just brilliant,absolutely brilliant, got a
lovely picture of myself andhimself and Catherine afterwards
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah a picture ofme and Patrick Healty yeah but
yeah.
So again, by the time thispodcast airs, if you missed it,
it is called the Skinny JabRevolution, which I know is
going to divide people.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
What did you think of the name?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
So there's a couple of things here and again.
I'm coming at this from aslightly different angle, in
terms of somebody that I guesshas been involved in media for
many, many years and somebodythat has been on the Biggest
Loser.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
So I get the way a little bit, the way telly works.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, no, I get that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, TV is ultimately a source of
entertainment.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah, and it's sensationalized, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
If I was doing a documentary on what I call the
skinny jab, I wouldn't.
But I get why they did becauseyou want something that is going
to get people's attention.
Society for the most part partis calling these skinny jabs
yeah you know, rightly andwrongly and I think this were
even on the documentary you knowthere is discussion about how
this is not what they're.
They're not a skinny jab youknow we know this, so it is

(54:09):
using terminology that theaverage person on the street is
using yeah as a and on socialmedia, exactly as opposed to
saying this is what they'recalled.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, if you get me, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I do absolutely get it,because if you put up the GLP-1
revolution, nobody would evenclick in.
People are like, what are youtalking about?
Like, yeah, what are you onabout?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So you know, I'm hoping that with an eye-catching
name like that so I totally getit yeah yeah, you know, and you
know we mentioned it on socialmedia.
You know there was mixedmessages about oh, but oh.
You know Catherine Thomas, shewas involved in Operation
Transformation.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Such a horrible show she was not, she was a presenter
, she was a presenter.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
And the other thing, again like Operation
Transformation, very similarparallels to the Biggest Loser
in many, many ways, and I'vesaid before I would jump at the
chance to do it again, 100%,because again, I think people
are missing that.
It is an entertainment show,but it's also as a way to try
and inspire people.
You go and look during themonth of January, when Operation

(55:09):
Transformation is in, how manycommunities are out there,
walking out there doingexercises, doing community
initiatives.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
So it was brilliant for that, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
absolutely, and people will talk about all but
the you know parade peoplearound there with their top
offer and lycra as do you knowwho I didn't like on it oh, I
think I know you're going to sayyeah, dr Ava, yeah, I wouldn't
have.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
She was dreadful.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I wouldn't have been a big fan of her.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I don't want to for people to say just because we
like Catherine Thomas and wethought that was great.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
We certainly, I didn't I would never, yeah, she
wouldn't be on my Christmas cardyeah, definitely not.
I would love to have aconversation with her yeah, I
don't think I'd be able.
I probably shouldn't ever have aconversation with her because,
again, I do find people that Idisagree with intriguing to talk
to, yeah, and where they'recoming from.
Yeah, I do find it, so I mightmud over that one em that'd be

(56:04):
brilliant.
Yeah, yeah, I'll leave you toit, because the thing is like
with a podcast like this, it'simportant that it's not just our
narrative that we challengeourselves what we think as well,
and that's important, you know.
But anyway, I know.
I know, I know, I know because Icould literally go on for an
hour about that but like I haveto say that during the entire
experience, both filming off,you know, off camera, between

(56:28):
filming and kind of now in theshow coming out, judy and
Catherine were and again Judywas producer the most warm,
welcoming, supportive, caring,non-judgmental were and again,
due to his producer, the mostwarm, welcoming, supportive,
caring, non-judgmental space wascreated for me.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And a really a really healthy curiosity.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
About it.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
About my experience.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
And about how it was impacting me, how it was being
beneficial to me.
You know all that kind of stuff, yeah, and I'm sure there's,
you know, would have been peopleon it that would have had the
opposite because, again, youknow, these treatments don't
work for everyone and somepeople would have bad side
effects and some people theywill not work for at all, some
people can't afford them.
So I'd hope that there is thatbalance in it as well, to kind
of share that.

(57:11):
But yeah, I'm excited to see.
I don't like watching myself ontelly, I don't like listening
back to myself which is ironicgiven that I work in radio as
well and do the podcast.
I do not like listening orseeing myself, but I'll be
curious to see what Well?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
everything else as well, apart from yourself.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
It was really nice because I got to film in my
local gym in Sligo as well.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Rom, and she came into your home as well.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah as well.
Yeah, yeah, came in and madelunch, literally like made lunch
.
So how?
Many cameramen and audios oneso we had Catherine, we had
Judith, the producer, and we hadthe cameraman, kind of sound
man whose name I cannot for thelife of me remember.
So apologies, apologies oh, sothat was nice then yeah, it
wasn't too overwhelming now theamount of cleaning that went on

(57:54):
in the house obviously.
I would like to say that I cantake all the credit my poor
husband Peter.
He scrubbed the house within aninch of his life.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh my god, because Catherine was coming.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yes, yeah, it's like Daniel's coming, oh, daniel's
coming.
It was like, oh my god, Iwouldn't have her in my house 4k
, whatever, I'm sure cameras,and it's like, oh my god a
little bit of dust.
Yeah, oh, my god, pick upeverything.
The house was tidy for about aweek yeah and then just went
again yeah, I hope my, I hopeother people's houses are the

(58:28):
same, because well, I wouldn'thave brought her into my house.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
There's no way I would have brought three kids,
two dogs and Sean.
Are you joking me?

Speaker 2 (58:36):
yeah, there's only me , peter and the cat yeah, I know
, but still I know.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Still, yeah, we're all the same but anyway.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
So the other thing we were both on a radio news talk,
yeah, news talk together, whichis really really reputable yeah
, it's a national radio station,independent radio station, yep,
and they were doing a pieceabout the release of Manjaro in
the Republic of Ireland.
Yeah, and that is up onInstagram, is it?

(59:02):
I have it up on.
Yeah, it's up on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
We should put that on our what's it called as well.
Youtube.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole bit, yeah, but yeah,
he was Ciarán.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Cuddy Ciarán, cuddy, yeah, he was the presenter, he
Kieran.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Cuddy Kieran.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Cuddy, yeah, he was the presenter, he's really good.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
He does the drive time in the evening.
I listen to that show like Igenuinely listen to that I do as
well.
I always have news talk.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I'm sort of Sean.
Yeah, I never did before untilI met Sean, but I do find it
interesting the older I'mgetting.
You know that kind of way.
Yeah, I'm only joking.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I heard you yeah, yeah, yeah did you say it louder
.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
But yeah, it was really good and he was really
genuinely intrigued because wewere concerned, we had spoke
beforehand, we were veryconcerned.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, we thought, because I said to you before why
are they bringing two people onthat?
Have two same positive, mostlypositive experiences?

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, and who is going to be on the other line?
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Because not like an experience you had before.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I've been caught rotten before.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
So but no, it was a very kind of healthy discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yeah, it was Healthy discussion and he had a healthy
curiosity about it and we got totell our story and that was the
end of it discussion.
Yeah, it was, and he had ahealthy curiosity about it and
it we got to tell our story andthat was the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
I was not expecting at all.
Yeah, because the last time Iwent on a news program I thought
I was going on to tell my storyand the next minute bang, the
most horrendous man was on theother line and I was just
ambushed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Were you in the Oval Office, moving swiftly along.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yeah, ambushed and just bombarded.
It was horrendous.
So I think but I'm over thatnow because I've spoken to other
people now and it's fine butyeah, lesson learned.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, big lessonlearned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
And I think it's I say for me, I always expect, if
I'm doing any kind of mediastuff and if I'm telling a
positive thing, yeah, you know,or you there is, I'm expecting
yeah, the complete opposite.
Either come from the presenteror a guest or something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yeah, now, I did speak to the producer of the
news talk show and I asked himwho else is going to be there.
Are you going to have anybodyelse speaking about the other
side of it.
Are you going to have anyexperts on?
And he said yeah, but I thinklater in the show, ok, ok, yeah,
yeah, but it was a fairexperience.
Extremely reputable compared tothe other.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah, so that was good, yeah, and that's yeah.
Yeah, and then there'ssomething else, though, isn't
there.
I recorded a podcast the otherday, oh yeah, we'll talk about
that now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Well, I think with yours, if it's not, I'll edit it
out.
Yeah, but you no, but yours,that's coming out Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
As far as I'm aware, unless something changes, yeah,
again, it should be out.
Yeah, again it should be out.
Yeah, so I am.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
So jealous Fan, massive fan, I'll just gasp,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
So one of my good friends is Alan Clarke.
Big news coming soon with AlanClarke and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Name drop Jesus Paddy .

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah, like myself and Alan have been friends, I'd say
maybe 20-something years.
That long, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, wow, okay, yeah, and 20,
god I don't know 25 years maybeand that's the name of his
podcast big news coming soon.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Big news coming soon, yeah he is just he's an animal
for social media.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah, he's so good like yeah, it all kind of kicked
off over like a donkey video.
That's right, yeah, yeah, yeahon social media yeah he was
taking the piss, wasn't he?
And he's won like gossies andpodcast awards and all this kind
of stuff he hosts massive showsand everything, and he's had
his cookie gin yeah, cookie ginhis dog, yeah, yeah, lots of
stuff, and he has a book andstuff like that and his northern

(01:02:52):
hemisphere is it.
He had a brand NorthernHemisphere that he was involved
with and stuff like that.
But yeah, but I say it's so.
Alan has said multiple times tome must do a podcast, must do a
podcast.
I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, must do a podcast, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, likeliterally quite a few times.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Because you said this to me six months ago, I know,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So anyway, last week he was like'm free.
Tomorrow, I'm free the next day, I'm free, blah, blah, blah.
And he's like okay tomorrow.
And I was like, okay, I'll begrand, I'll spin down to you, we
can catch up and we'll do thepodcast.
So we did so how?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
long were you in there talking?

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I think the final edit was like over two and a
half hours.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
So God love that's so easy though, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
it is yeah, particularly as we know each
other so long and stuff likethat, and he's somebody that I
massively respect and trust andadmire in terms of his
entrepreneurial spirit and hisget up and go and Determination.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Yeah, but he's the reason I like his podcast is he
always starts from the verybeginning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, doesn't he?
And we did as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, like the very beginning like it's like who are
you Just?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
who are you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
just who are you?
Tell me exactly who you are.
Where did you go to school?
What was your life like?
Yeah, yeah so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
So if you're interested in me talking more
random stuff with one of mymates, go and check out Alan
Clarke's Big News Coming Soonpodcast and wait to hear it
it'll probably have been acouple of weeks ago or I'm not
sure when that's coming out, butanyway, you'll find me there oh
well, we'll put it up onInstagram and do you know?
what's random as well is that,literally, I would say, within

(01:04:28):
like five minutes of me havingbeen chatting to Alan the day
before, kind of confirming we'redoing the podcast, someone
randomly sent him a photo fromone of my reels on the a dose of
paddy uh page right, whereby Ihave a split second I I'm doing.
It's my reel about, I think,regaining nine stone, or

(01:04:50):
something like that oh yeah andI'm I'm throwing like I in that.
I show some old photos from likeearly 2000s and alan's in one
of them.
Oh, now somebody took ascreenshot of that and sent it
to Alan and was like is this theday before, literally within
minutes of me having spoke tohim.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Oh, and that's weird and I said, is this Over the
phone like?
Like in Instagram in his DMs no, no, no, when he was booking
you in yeah, so within minutesof him booking me for the
podcast yeah he got this DM fromsomebody that follows is that
you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
that follows both of us and said to Alan is this you?
Yeah, and then we were veryconfused what?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
and it was pure coincidence mad your coincidence
so that's how long you know himlong time, long, long time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Yeah, how did you know him?
Long time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Long, long time.
Yeah, yeah.
How did you start?
How did you get to know him?
Were you in school with him?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
No, no, no, no, no.
He used to DJ at discos that Iused to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
He did yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
And then we just I used to DJ as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Oh, right, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Back in the day and then I was working.
Just became friends over that,yeah yeah, yeah, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, that's good.
I'm really looking forward tohearing it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Actually, yeah, he's great let me know what it's like
you are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
No, you will, you will.
Will you not listen?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
I will.
I will yeah, oh no, it's awful,isn't it?
Listen to yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
I hate it as well yeah, I don't mind doing it on
instagram with my story if I'mchecking my stories whether
because you can flick through itso quickly.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
but yeah, but yeah anything else at the moment.
So, looking ahead to season two, I know we've called this
episode one.
Maybe it should have been likeepisode zero or something, but
anyway, we we won't name any ofthe people that we're talking to
because we still have to bookin the dates.
But I'm super excited at someof the people that we're talking

(01:06:36):
to because not that peoplehaven't spoke to them before,
but we haven't spoke to them andwe haven't been able to ask
them the questions that we wantto ask them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, which will be very different.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
And people that we hugely admire and respect within
the field of kind of weightmanagement and wellness.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Medical.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
But also something that's really important to us
for this season is the communityaspect of things, yes, and
hearing that's really good.
Hearing community stories.
It's not just always our story,yeah, but that we are getting
to talk to people that have beenon their own journeys good and
bad, yeah and get to hear theinsides of it, yeah, and we've
got, actually, since the lastseason, we've got quite a few

(01:07:17):
emails from people as well,which has been brilliant.
If you want to email us, it ishello.
At the dose dot, I e also gotsome random messages of people
asking things via the podcast,which is gas, but anyway.
So we have some great gueststhat we will have coming up both
as a kind of medical world andnon-medical world from the

(01:07:40):
community place.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I'm really I'm so looking forward to it.
Yeah, I am.
I really am.
Yeah, it's going to bebrilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But anyway, anything else, belinda, that we need to
cover today.
What time is our dinner Like?
In less than an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Oh, right, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
So we've time for, like a fizzy orange fuck fizzy
orange go here you said you werehaving one drink tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I am going to have a drink.
I am one drink responsiblyeverybody yes are you sure we
don't have anything to speakabout?
I think that's everything well,I you know what I wanted to
talk about.
Actually, it's too much of abig conversation to kind of get
fuck you an hour ago she hadnothing to fucking talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
And then I can't shut her up.
You're like someone at the endof a meeting in work oh,
actually I do have a question?

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
yeah, yeah, yeah well , maybe we'll talk about this on
another podcast.
It's just about what our futurelike my future and your future
looks like, like in Hollywoodtwo three looks like like in
Hollywood.
Three, four years time onmedication, hollywood, where do
we see?
Look, mate, I'm going to likeI'm surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I'm surprised we haven't had a film about us yet.
I know, yeah, like I'd be likeor a book or something like I'd
be Liberace.
Okay, captain, who would?
Who would you be?
Who would?
So who would play you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
no, I would.
Who would play you?
Um, no, I would.
Who would play me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, who would play you In a Hollywood movie?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
my god, who would play me?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
No, couldn't answer that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Dunno.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
No, couldn't answer that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Who would play me?
Obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
George Clooney, obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Like I get mistaken for him, though, like even
coming down here To Limerick,yeah.
People firm, though, like evencoming down here to limerick
yeah, people said coming in,coming into the hotel.
They're like mr clooney, do youwant an espresso?

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
yeah, were they patty really in my because I remember
.
I remember very differently Iwill say though that our stories
today?
Just absolutely.
There are so many comments andjust yeah, yeah, and it's so
funny and that wasn't planned itwasn't planned, absolutely

(01:09:45):
under no circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I saw your first post about getting ready and it was
all kind of and I was yeah, Iwas literally just out of the
shower starting to get ready aswell and I was like I'm gonna
take her down.
I'm going to latch on this andshow the man side of getting
ready, so I am.
So we'll try and save them.
Actually, we'll save them.
Yes, we'll save them, and we'lllink them in the description of

(01:10:09):
this podcast yes, but also weneed to save them in order,
because Instagram are yours inorder.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Mine are still not in order.
Yeah, instagram really fuckedup today.
No, it wasn't you.
It happened to you as well, butyou know you're.
You're just in denial.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
You fixed yours quicker no, mine uploaded all of
them twice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Yeah, but in order yeah, but mine, some of mine,
uploaded five times yeah, whichwas really weird.
Swear to god, it wasn't meabsolutely not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Yeah cool, yeah, I think that's.
I think that's been a good lifeupdate on people how long have
we been at that now about anhour is it?
Yeah, just under like an hourand 13 we're recording.
There's a bit at the startwe'll have to take out, but yeah
, over an hour yeah, cool, we'redone then we're due, okay.
So does that mean I get to playthe music?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
yes, okay oh, we should have had a drink.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
We should have got a drink, paddy of what you have
water, oh yes, sorry water oh,it's gone now the music is
playing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I can't even hear it.
Can't even hear it.
It's in his headphones oh, dear, folks that was great.
That was great.
Well done, paddy, and it was sogood to have you in person
doing the podcast.
We may not do it for anotherlong fucking time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Do you know what I agree?
It was absolutely amazing tohave you here in person.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah, you're just, you know the best.
You just don't stop, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Just like a little energizer bunny.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Get me out of here.
Get me out of here now.
Right, bunny, get me over hereget me out of here now, right?
Okay, you're on your own now,see ya all right, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Thank you so much.
I'm out of here again.

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