February 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Episode Highlights:
It is time to celebrate Lincoln City's 60th - Diamond - Anniversary. March 3, 1965 marks the day that Cutler City, Taft, Nelscott, DeLake, and OceanLake, became one. Wecoma had previously joined its neighbor to its south, providing a total of 6 communities to sort out its governance, let alone what the place should be called moving forward. Surfland anyone? Join Double R as he and his guests venture into the past, while preparing for the future of this city of seaside villages we call Lincoln City.
- Christopher Melton, North Lincoln Historical Museum
- Daphnee Legarza, City Manager, City of Lincoln City
- Susan Wahlke, Mayor of Lincoln City
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Jana (00:07):
Welcome to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
RR (00:30):
And welcome to the Double R Show, kicking things off.
Gonna talk sports.
Okay.
Taft Tiger boys and girls areboth in the state basketball
playoffs, and the boys will behosting the first game March 1st
at the high school right herein town.
Son Paul (00:45):
Oh, brilliant.
RR (00:46):
And the girls will be on the road for their opening game of
the state tournament as well.
But a long time since we'veseen that type of action coming
out of Taft High School with aball that's inflated.
Okay.
They're just having a goodtime.
I love it.
They had a great footballseason, volleyball season.
Wrestling.
Wrestling and swimming.
Son Paul (01:07):
Yeah, I saw some swimming.
It's been great.
RR (01:10):
We'll talk about that and we've got some special guests
upcoming.
Son Paul (01:14):
Well, yeah, we're talking about Lincoln City this
week and it's a diamond by thesea we're turning 60 so uh we're
gonna have the uh the erstwhilemayor as you like to call uh
mayor walkie and uh we're gonnahave christopher melton from the
north lincoln historical museumon again and uh daphne lagarde
is our city manager
RR (01:32):
all that and a whole lot more upcoming right after this
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RR (01:48):
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RR (02:18):
Lincoln City will soon be 60 years young.
With us right now is agentleman that knows the history
of Lincoln City.
He is the executive directorfor the North Lincoln County
Historical Museum.
Christopher Milton's with us.
Welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
You have got 60 years ofexperience now talking about
(02:40):
Lincoln City.
Kind of.
Or Lincoln City has 60 years ofexperience that Christopher
Milton is talking about.
Christopher Melton (02:48):
Right.
Yes.
RR (02:51):
Tell me what kind of special exhibits you may have at the
museum for the celebration.
Christopher Melton (02:57):
Well, we don't have anything specific to
celebrate the 60th right now.
We are working with ExploreLincoln City and the city to put
together some information onthat.
I've been going through foldersand folders of old newspaper
articles about the creation ofLincoln City and all of the
(03:18):
events we've had over the yearsto celebrate each different
year.
RR (03:20):
Have you found any stories that you find particularly
amusing?
Christopher Melton (03:28):
Well, from what I can glean, they were
trying to incorporate LincolnCity as Lincoln City since the
1930s.
There were multiple meetings.
I mean, some of it was tryingto incorporate smaller
neighborhoods, but they'dconstantly have meetings about
it.
And it was prettycontroversial.
Really?
Yeah, people were very intenton keeping their little towns.
RR (03:51):
Some of that still is prevalent.
Christopher Melton (03:54):
Yeah, yeah, I get that feeling from folks
sometimes.
There's a lot of, what wouldthe right word be, like passion
for these little neighborhoodslike Nelscott and Ocean Lake and
Taft.
You've got yours and I wantmine.
Yeah, their own littledistricts and moving away from
that sort of village atmosphereor environment I think was hard
(04:18):
for a lot of people.
RR (04:19):
And still is carried forth in some circles.
Jana (04:22):
Yeah, yeah.
RR (04:24):
With the 60th anniversary of the city of Lincoln City, will
you then be doing, you talkedabout you're working with a
couple of other organizations.
What's going to go into that?
Christopher Melton (04:35):
So I'm not entirely sure yet what the city
is planning on doing.
I will probably have a smallexhibit up in our Ann Hall
Gallery, sort of showing photosof that event.
time and some some littleblurbs but it's not it hasn't
been the main focus of oursright now
RR (04:53):
you mentioned the name ann hall yes and some credits got to
be given to what she put intothe museum
Christopher Melton (04:59):
oh yes of course she has done so much for
the museum and for the cityeverything she wrote all the
context statements for eachneighborhood and those are now
compiled in a book too which youcan check out at our research
library or i think the city hasit as well
RR (05:16):
okay you talk about a really research library, what all is
in that library?
Christopher Melton (05:20):
We have a library of books.
We have newspaper microfilmfrom 1927 all the way up through
2010.
We have articles and books thatpeople, locals have written
about their families, about thehistory.
We have Taft yearbooks.
We have anything you couldprobably think of.
(05:41):
We have maps.
We have original plot maps andFor like Nelscott and Taft, we
have all of those things.
RR (05:50):
A couple of minutes ago, we were talking a little bit about
the building itself for themuseum.
I had mentioned in an earlierinterview that it was a city
hall before it was a museum.
Paul came back and said it wasa fire hall before it was city
hall, before it was a museum.
There are some stories that goback to the fire hall days,
(06:13):
correct?
Christopher Melton (06:14):
Yeah, the fire hall was built in 1931 by
volunteers.
It was the first one in thearea.
We've got pictures of guyshanging out with boards on top
of the frame, and my office isthere in the main part of that
photo.
And it was an importantbuilding.
It was used as barracks inWorld War II for soldiers.
(06:36):
And then in 1965, when weincorporated, it did become the
first city hall.
RR (06:42):
The building's got a lot of history.
Christopher Melton (06:44):
It sure does, yeah.
RR (06:45):
How important is it for us to preserve our history?
Christopher Melton (06:49):
I think it's one of the most important
things we can be doing.
Without our history, we don'tknow who we are, I think.
RR (06:57):
I like that.
Without our history, we don'tknow who we are or where we've
been.
Christopher Melton (07:03):
or what this place is, or what has happened
here.
Do
RR (07:07):
you have a lot of school students that come into the
museum doing research?
You talked about researchactivities that you've got.
Christopher Melton (07:15):
Yeah, we've had several high school students
with research questions that wewere able to help with.
And I think that's a reallyimportant thing to do is work
with high schools and getstudents access to primary
resources, teach them how to usean archive, let them find
information on their own and notjust regurgitate something from
(07:36):
another history book.
You know, when you're workingwith primary resources and
looking at those original photosand reading people's oral
histories and their stories, Ithink that gives you a much
closer connection to what you'rewriting about personally.
So that's something I wouldlike to grow more, like more of
engagement with high schoolers.
We also get tons of schoolgroups all the way from
(07:59):
kindergartners through highschool and college doing field
trips, which is great.
RR (08:06):
The museum is open what days?
Christopher Melton (08:09):
We're open Wednesday through Saturday, 11
to 4.
RR (08:12):
Now, again, we've been talking about the 60th
anniversary of the city ofLincoln City, but that's not to
say that's where the historythat you have preserved begins.
Christopher Melton (08:23):
Oh, no, our history goes way, way back.
RR (08:26):
Two.
Christopher Melton (08:27):
We have some items that traveled on the
Oregon Trail.
So 1800s.
We have this weird quilt.
I don't remember when it'sfrom, but it saw a lot.
It was like burned multipletimes and fell in an ocean.
And I don't know.
ended up with us.
But then we also have storiesthat go back much further to the
1700s, and we have all thathistory.
RR (08:49):
Christopher Milton, Executive Director, North
Lincoln County HistoricalMuseum.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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RR (09:26):
City Manager, City of Lincoln City, Daphne LaGarza,
welcome back to the podcast.
Daphnee Legarza (09:31):
Thank you so very much.
Thank you for having me.
RR (09:34):
Last weekend, the people down at the Glass Foundry made a
wonderful glass float.
Now, we're going to say toDaphne LaGarza, city manager,
open your crystal ball and let'slook at what's down the road
two, three, four years.
Daphnee Legarza (09:50):
Okay, we have quite a few things down the road
two, three, four years.
We have a lot going on aroundhousing.
That's kind of a long-rangeplanning.
That's one of the council'spriorities, of course.
So housing.
And right now we're shiftingour focus a little bit from
maybe the affordable realm tothe middle housing realm, if you
(10:11):
will.
There's a lot going on at thestate level to support middle
income housing.
So we, too, are kind ofpivoting in that direction.
We realize that we want to makea push for middle housing like
we have been for affordablehousing.
So that's one of the big pushesover the next year.
Three to five years.
RR (10:29):
Specifically, Daphne, doing what?
Daphnee Legarza (10:32):
So looking at how to encourage and incentivize
the development ofmiddle-income housing.
We also, part of the housingaround all types of housing is
we did receive a grant from thestate last, actually this year,
we received a $3 million grantfor the Spring Lake area.
(10:53):
We're looking at trying to notjust encourage, but make it
feasible for housing to occur inparts of Lincoln City that have
not been able to develop.
RR (11:04):
Now, we're talking about some planning issues, or what
are we talking about?
Daphnee Legarza (11:10):
So it runs a whole gamut, yes.
Some of the housing-relatedissues are policy issues, things
we can do to incentivize aroundpolicy, for example.
Some of the other issues...
around housing is, again, likewe received the grant for the
Spring Lake area, isinfrastructure.
So right now there may beplaces in Lincoln City where
(11:30):
it's not cost feasible todevelop housing because the
infrastructure isn't adequateand it's too costly to bring in
the adequate infrastructure.
We also are working on thevillages, which is another
potential housing developmentamongst other things.
So we're doing a lot of thingspolicy-wise, incentive-wise.
I mean, there's just a gamut.
(11:51):
We are also in the process ofdoing a housing production
roadmap, and we received a grantto do this study.
We're about to bring it tocouncil in a month or two, the
final plan, if you will.
And what this is, this is aprecursor to our housing
production strategy, which wehave to do in two years.
And this is kind of a precursorto it and maybe more of a
(12:14):
technical report to help us getstarted on a lot of the
incentives and a lot of thepolicy things that we can do to
promote housing in in LincolnCity.
RR (12:23):
All right, that's a huge undertaking in itself.
Number two on the list ofto-dos would be what?
Daphnee Legarza (12:30):
I would think our big number two, we're in the
throes of budget as we speak,is revenue.
We have more of a three to fourto five-year short-term plan
looking at funding gaps where wedon't have adequate revenues
and talking to council aboutthose and what we can do on a
local level.
Also, on a broader level, forfunding resilient, basically
(12:52):
we're looking for sustainableand resilient funding revenue
streams, if you will.
And on a broader level, at thestate level, the League of
Oregon Cities has started arevenue reform program.
effort, if you will.
And that's more like a 10-yearplan.
But that's looking at cityrevenues across the state for
all cities.
And right now cities are,they're struggling with revenues
(13:16):
in general.
The revenues aren't keeping upwith the expenses in cities
throughout Oregon.
So the League of Oregon Citieshas started the process of this
kind of revenue reform look thatin the state of Oregon and like
I say it's going to be a10-year process.
I think the first part of it isgoing to be a lot of education
and a lot of outreach so thatfolks understand what city
(13:39):
revenues are, how they workbecause they're pretty
complicated and not every noteveryone is up to speed as far
as revenues when it comes tolocal government.
RR (13:49):
All right now we've gone from housing to raising money to
what's number three?
Daphnee Legarza (13:55):
Oh wow okay for number three
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Yeah.
Daphnee Legarza (13:58):
We have a lot of little ones, so I'm going to
try and maybe hit on another bigone, which is our master
planning efforts.
And I know I've mentioned thisbefore, but we are embarking on
master plans galore, if youwill.
We have our water master planunderway.
We have our wastewater masterplan underway.
And there's the storm drainmaster plan.
And we are also looking atembarking on our street lighting
(14:20):
master plan.
So we're just looking atcreating these plans that are
going to help us 5, 10, 15, 20years down the road so that we
know what's needed and we knowwhat we have to do moving
forward so we can budgetaccordingly or we can plan
accordingly so we're not we're Idon't want to say I mean we're
(14:41):
an aging city like all citiesright so we just need to keep up
with things we need to plan forfuture needs and we're doing
our best to at least understandwhat those future needs are
across the board infrastructurewise
RR (14:54):
that's a lot of glass floats in the air
Daphnee Legarza (14:57):
Yes.
That's
RR (15:01):
a lot of glass floors.
We wish you continued successwith that.
And we know that you will bebringing this to council.
If people have got input theywant to make to Daphne about one
of these three, what do theydo?
Daphnee Legarza (15:15):
So throughout all these processes, there's
going to be plenty ofopportunity for public
discussion.
comment, public outreach,definitely attend the city
council meetings.
And then, like I say, with alot of these things, there's
going to be education, there'sgoing to be outreach involved.
These aren't short-term things,if you will.
It's going to be quite theprocess.
And there's going to be aneducational process.
(15:36):
There's going to be a publicoutreach project.
One thing that we just hadrecently out there for the
public was our strategic plansurvey information that was out
there.
And we had quite a robustresponse.
We're working on our strategicplan development right now, and
we are partnering.
We're using the Coraggio Groupto do this study, and there's
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four other cities that are inthe group with us through the
League of Oregon cities that aredoing their strategic plans
while we do our strategic plan.
So we all sent out surveys, andwe in Lincoln City had one of
the most robust responses of allthe cities.
So we're excited about that.
We got a lot of goodinformation back from those
surveys.
I hope you both took thesurvey.
And then we're going to bedeveloping our strategic plan,
(16:18):
which is basically our roadmap.
All also based on the council'sstrategic priorities, it's kind
of the city's roadmap to helpus prioritize these things as we
move forward.
RR (16:27):
City Manager Daphne LaGarza, back in a moment.
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RR (17:04):
And our next guest on the Double R Show is the erstwhile
mayor of the city of LincolnCity, Mayor Susan Wacke.
Mayor, thanks for coming in.
Susan Wahlke (17:12):
Thanks for having me.
RR (17:14):
You have been on the council for a number of years, not only
as mayor, but as a councilperson, right?
Susan Wahlke (17:20):
Yes, I was on council and prior to that I was
on budget committee and then Ilost my race for mayor and was
off for about two and a halfyears but i was watching and
when senator anderson waselected to the state senate his
position became available and iran and was elected so i have
(17:44):
actually been mayor since juneof 2022 okay or 2021
RR (17:52):
what brings you the most satisfaction in that
Susan Wahlke (17:55):
Representing Lincoln City and communicating
with our residents.
As a chamber ambassador, Ipromoted Lincoln City, and now
as its mayor, I promote LincolnCity.
RR (18:08):
And the satisfaction for you...
accomplishments you feel thathave been noteworthy, if you
will, that you've been involvedin?
Susan Wahlke (18:18):
Well, so many things that have taken place in
the last two years have takenfive, six, seven years to
accomplish.
So it hasn't just been when I'mmayor.
A lot of things happenedstarted to happen when I was on
council and then thingscontinued and now we're seeing
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some results of all that hardwork.
RR (18:42):
I know earlier in the program we had the city manager
on and she was talking aboutforecasting out to three, five,
ten years.
That takes a lot of Boy, Idon't know what the right word
would be to be able to look thatfar into the future.
Susan Wahlke (18:59):
Long-range planting is really, really
important.
Back in the old days, when Iwas a city employee, we had a
wonderful finance department whowas really good at long-range
planning and looking into thefuture of what the city's needs
are.
And I don't mean to discreditour current finance department,
(19:25):
but Ron Tierney and Bill Workswere amazing, and they set the
city up for some really goodthings.
I mean, it's just to see howthey were able to establish the
lodging tax so that we have lotsof ways that our lodging tax
(19:45):
can help our city.
Our city hall building was paidfor by lodging tax dollars.
Our new police department waspaid for with lodging tax
dollars.
And that's a lot moreflexibility than some cities
have.
RR (20:02):
Are there other things that you feel should be done with
those dollars now as you lookinto the future?
Susan Wahlke (20:12):
I feel that we should be able to spend more of
our lodging tax dollars oninfrastructure.
Our infrastructure has tosupport 30,000 people.
on a busy summer weekend.
There's only 10,000 people herein town who are primarily
(20:32):
paying for that infrastructure.
When visitors come, they wanttheir toilets to flush, they
want clean water, they wantstreets that aren't all bumpy.
And I would like a little moreflexibility, not just for
Lincoln City, but for all citiesthroughout Oregon.
RR (20:49):
Would you see that as something you will champion, if
you will, with the League ofOregon Cities?
Susan Wahlke (20:55):
I have and I continue to.
RR (20:58):
Politically speaking, that's exactly what you're into on
that type of basis, right?
Susan Wahlke (21:05):
I'm very happy to be a board member of the Oregon
Mayor's Association.
I've had one meeting so far.
And I really enjoyed the groupbecause...
We're all about solvingproblems and not politically.
We don't talk politics.
We just get things done.
RR (21:26):
And I certainly hope that you've taken the 2025 Visitor
Guide Explore Lincoln City tothose meetings to say and brag a
little bit about your hometown.
Susan Wahlke (21:38):
Yes, I do.
The Oregon Mayors Associationhas a great program at our
annual conference.
We each...
are expected to bring a basketrepresenting our city, things
from our city.
And thanks to the The manygreat donations I get from our
local businesses, I'm able toput together a good basket that
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then we have a silent auction.
And all those proceeds go toscholarships so that mayors of
small towns can come to ourconference.
RR (22:12):
Very good.
We have quickly run it out oftime.
We're looking at the 60thanniversary of the city of
Lincoln City.
Any specific things that youhope to The
Susan Wahlke (22:27):
community center will have free admission on
March 3rd.
We're not going to do the bighoopla that we did for the 50th,
but maybe we can on the 75th.
RR (22:38):
We'll have the parties just the same.
Susan Wahlke (22:40):
That's right.
Celebrate being 60.
RR (22:44):
That's not a bad thing.
Susan Wahlke (22:45):
No.
RR (22:46):
That's not a bad
Susan Wahlke (22:47):
thing.
I remember doing that a longtime ago.
RR (22:50):
Mayor Susan Wonky celebrating her birthday of
sorts.
We'll just leave it at that,Mayor.
Jana (22:58):
Thank you.
RR (22:59):
And we'll be back in just a moment.
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RR (23:49):
Well, our special thanks to our guests for being with us
today on the Double R Show.
Some other activities in andaround the region are
forthcoming.
March 5, down at Gracie'sSeahag in Funfield, beautiful
downtown Depot Bay, Fleet ofFlowers, Fish, and Chips Dinner.
Son Paul (24:06):
Oh, I'm thinking about heading down
RR (24:07):
there.
Absolutely, positively.
This is the event that doesprovide the funding to buy all
of the flowers for all of theboats that are covered with
flowers on Memorial Day and thengo to sea.
So it's $25 and all proceeds goto the Fleet of Flowers, Fish
and Chips, Coleslaw, GarlicBread, and a scoop of sherbet.
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And there's also going to be asilent auction and a 50-50
raffle.
So make certain that you putthat on your calendar.
Go on down to Depot Bay to theSea Hag for good times are
happening in beautiful downtownDepot Bay.
And icons of the sea, that'sgoing to be something that you
know a little bit more about.
Son Paul (24:47):
Yeah, so we've got another...
taco master printing class atthe Pelican Brew Pub Saturday,
March 15th.
The Ides of March there from 11to 5 at the Pelican Brew Pub.
So go to cascadehead.org andregister for one of these
limited seats for an exquisitemaster printing class of these
incredible icons of the sea.
RR (25:08):
And we've got a Mardi Gras celebration going to be taking
place at the Lincoln CityCultural Center.
This is a fundraiser for theSluts Bay Music Festival.
It's $125.00 per person.
That is Saturday night,Saturday night.
We all get together on Saturdaynight, 5.30 to 9.30 again at
the Cultural Center.
Taft High is annual career andcommunity college fair coming up
(25:33):
on April 16th, 9 to noon.
This is an opportunity toshowcase your business, your
college, your trade school, orthe entire student body.
Reserve your space today.
You brought in a catalog byvisitors This is just well done.
Son Paul (25:52):
Yeah, it's a real jewel.
Exploring Lincoln City's gottheir new visitor guide out for
the season.
And highlighted, I have to givea shout out to the Cascade Head
UNESCO site here that's in ourarea.
And really kind of features alot of that, but it reaches into
all the aspects of ourcommunity.
So I'd recommend people gettinga copy of this themselves and
(26:13):
sharing it with your family andfriends and entice them to not
only visit, but come move to thebeach.
Well, yeah.
RR (26:19):
And on top of that, when your family and friends come
down here to visit you andyou're wondering what they can
do, duh,
Son Paul (26:25):
here it is.
Yeah, it's a really nice pieceand very informative.
Obviously, all the lodgingfolks will want to get some
copies of these and get thoseout into the hands of their
customers.
RR (26:36):
And I assume for copies, you can go to the fourth floor of
City Hall at the ExplorerLincoln City office up there on
the fourth floor, and they wouldhave them there.
I don't know where
Son Paul (26:46):
else.
I assume that's going to be theone way you could grab them.
sure, and then I'd just reachout to Explore Lincoln City
individually to find out how tobest get them maybe for your
properties or the like.
RR (26:56):
And last but not least, I'd like to draw your attention
again to the third annual Homeand Garden Show sponsored by
Habitat for Humanity.
This is a major fundraisingactivity for Habitat.
And again, they do just somewonderful things.
There will be raffles, silentauction, free admission.
This year they moved it to theNewport Rec Center, bouncing
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back 4th and North and SouthCounty, which makes a lot of
sense.
Saturday, April the 26th, 10 to3.
And if you would like a boothsponsorship, call 458-277-7606.
And again, congratulations andthank you to the people at the
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Lincoln City Glass Center.
Last weekend, they blew thatglass float, which was just
absolutely staggering.
I have not stood in a facilitylike that and watched the glass
float just explode if you willand as it's happening everybody
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in the audience starts clappingthey were just excited about
what was happening right
Son Paul (28:07):
before their very eyes yeah it's pretty impressive to
see these floats being blown youknow large and small so you
know you can go down to theglass center and blow your own
float of course and even justwatch folks that are doing it so
yeah It's really quite anattribute here in town.
RR (28:21):
And Kelly Howard and her company just did a wonderful job
of blowing that huge glassfloat.
It was wonderful.
Son Paul (28:29):
Anything else on your side of the table?
Just a happy 60th.
Congratulations, Lincoln City,on their diamond celebration.
RR (28:35):
And go Taft Tigers.
Man, I'm excited to go watchthe kids play basketball.
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RR (00:30):
And welcome to the Double R Show, kicking things off.
Gonna talk sports.
Okay.
Taft Tiger boys and girls areboth in the state basketball
playoffs, and the boys will behosting the first game March 1st
at the high school right herein town.
Son Paul (00:45):
Oh, brilliant.
RR (00:46):
And the girls will be on the road for their opening game of
the state tournament as well.
But a long time since we'veseen that type of action coming
out of Taft High School with aball that's inflated.
Okay.
They're just having a goodtime.
I love it.
They had a great footballseason, volleyball season.
Wrestling.
Wrestling and swimming.
Son Paul (01:07):
Yeah, I saw some swimming.
It's been great.
RR (01:10):
We'll talk about that and we've got some special guests
upcoming.
Son Paul (01:14):
Well, yeah, we're talking about Lincoln City this
week and it's a diamond by thesea we're turning 60 so uh we're
gonna have the uh the erstwhilemayor as you like to call uh
mayor walkie and uh we're gonnahave christopher melton from the
north lincoln historical museumon again and uh daphne lagarde
is our city manager
RR (01:32):
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RR (02:18):
Lincoln City will soon be 60 years young.
With us right now is agentleman that knows the history
of Lincoln City.
He is the executive directorfor the North Lincoln County
Historical Museum.
Christopher Milton's with us.
Welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
You have got 60 years ofexperience now talking about
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Lincoln City.
Kind of.
Or Lincoln City has 60 years ofexperience that Christopher
Milton is talking about.
Christopher Melton (02:48):
Right.
Yes.
RR (02:51):
Tell me what kind of special exhibits you may have at the
museum for the celebration.
Christopher Melton (02:57):
Well, we don't have anything specific to
celebrate the 60th right now.
We are working with ExploreLincoln City and the city to put
together some information onthat.
I've been going through foldersand folders of old newspaper
articles about the creation ofLincoln City and all of the
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events we've had over the yearsto celebrate each different
year.
RR (03:20):
Have you found any stories that you find particularly
amusing?
Christopher Melton (03:28):
Well, from what I can glean, they were
trying to incorporate LincolnCity as Lincoln City since the
1930s.
There were multiple meetings.
I mean, some of it was tryingto incorporate smaller
neighborhoods, but they'dconstantly have meetings about
it.
And it was prettycontroversial.
Really?
Yeah, people were very intenton keeping their little towns.
RR (03:51):
Some of that still is prevalent.
Christopher Melton (03:54):
Yeah, yeah, I get that feeling from folks
sometimes.
There's a lot of, what wouldthe right word be, like passion
for these little neighborhoodslike Nelscott and Ocean Lake and
Taft.
You've got yours and I wantmine.
Yeah, their own littledistricts and moving away from
that sort of village atmosphereor environment I think was hard
(04:18):
for a lot of people.
RR (04:19):
And still is carried forth in some circles.
Jana (04:22):
Yeah, yeah.
RR (04:24):
With the 60th anniversary of the city of Lincoln City, will
you then be doing, you talkedabout you're working with a
couple of other organizations.
What's going to go into that?
Christopher Melton (04:35):
So I'm not entirely sure yet what the city
is planning on doing.
I will probably have a smallexhibit up in our Ann Hall
Gallery, sort of showing photosof that event.
time and some some littleblurbs but it's not it hasn't
been the main focus of oursright now
RR (04:53):
you mentioned the name ann hall yes and some credits got to
be given to what she put intothe museum
Christopher Melton (04:59):
oh yes of course she has done so much for
the museum and for the cityeverything she wrote all the
context statements for eachneighborhood and those are now
compiled in a book too which youcan check out at our research
library or i think the city hasit as well
RR (05:16):
okay you talk about a really research library, what all is
in that library?
Christopher Melton (05:20):
We have a library of books.
We have newspaper microfilmfrom 1927 all the way up through
2010.
We have articles and books thatpeople, locals have written
about their families, about thehistory.
We have Taft yearbooks.
We have anything you couldprobably think of.
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We have maps.
We have original plot maps andFor like Nelscott and Taft, we
have all of those things.
RR (05:50):
A couple of minutes ago, we were talking a little bit about
the building itself for themuseum.
I had mentioned in an earlierinterview that it was a city
hall before it was a museum.
Paul came back and said it wasa fire hall before it was city
hall, before it was a museum.
There are some stories that goback to the fire hall days,
(06:13):
correct?
Christopher Melton (06:14):
Yeah, the fire hall was built in 1931 by
volunteers.
It was the first one in thearea.
We've got pictures of guyshanging out with boards on top
of the frame, and my office isthere in the main part of that
photo.
And it was an importantbuilding.
It was used as barracks inWorld War II for soldiers.
(06:36):
And then in 1965, when weincorporated, it did become the
first city hall.
RR (06:42):
The building's got a lot of history.
Christopher Melton (06:44):
It sure does, yeah.
RR (06:45):
How important is it for us to preserve our history?
Christopher Melton (06:49):
I think it's one of the most important
things we can be doing.
Without our history, we don'tknow who we are, I think.
RR (06:57):
I like that.
Without our history, we don'tknow who we are or where we've
been.
Christopher Melton (07:03):
or what this place is, or what has happened
here.
Do
RR (07:07):
you have a lot of school students that come into the
museum doing research?
You talked about researchactivities that you've got.
Christopher Melton (07:15):
Yeah, we've had several high school students
with research questions that wewere able to help with.
And I think that's a reallyimportant thing to do is work
with high schools and getstudents access to primary
resources, teach them how to usean archive, let them find
information on their own and notjust regurgitate something from
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another history book.
You know, when you're workingwith primary resources and
looking at those original photosand reading people's oral
histories and their stories, Ithink that gives you a much
closer connection to what you'rewriting about personally.
So that's something I wouldlike to grow more, like more of
engagement with high schoolers.
We also get tons of schoolgroups all the way from
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kindergartners through highschool and college doing field
trips, which is great.
RR (08:06):
The museum is open what days?
Christopher Melton (08:09):
We're open Wednesday through Saturday, 11
to 4.
RR (08:12):
Now, again, we've been talking about the 60th
anniversary of the city ofLincoln City, but that's not to
say that's where the historythat you have preserved begins.
Christopher Melton (08:23):
Oh, no, our history goes way, way back.
RR (08:26):
Two.
Christopher Melton (08:27):
We have some items that traveled on the
Oregon Trail.
So 1800s.
We have this weird quilt.
I don't remember when it'sfrom, but it saw a lot.
It was like burned multipletimes and fell in an ocean.
And I don't know.
ended up with us.
But then we also have storiesthat go back much further to the
1700s, and we have all thathistory.
RR (08:49):
Christopher Milton, Executive Director, North
Lincoln County HistoricalMuseum.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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RR (09:26):
City Manager, City of Lincoln City, Daphne LaGarza,
welcome back to the podcast.
Daphnee Legarza (09:31):
Thank you so very much.
Thank you for having me.
RR (09:34):
Last weekend, the people down at the Glass Foundry made a
wonderful glass float.
Now, we're going to say toDaphne LaGarza, city manager,
open your crystal ball and let'slook at what's down the road
two, three, four years.
Daphnee Legarza (09:50):
Okay, we have quite a few things down the road
two, three, four years.
We have a lot going on aroundhousing.
That's kind of a long-rangeplanning.
That's one of the council'spriorities, of course.
So housing.
And right now we're shiftingour focus a little bit from
maybe the affordable realm tothe middle housing realm, if you
(10:11):
will.
There's a lot going on at thestate level to support middle
income housing.
So we, too, are kind ofpivoting in that direction.
We realize that we want to makea push for middle housing like
we have been for affordablehousing.
So that's one of the big pushesover the next year.
Three to five years.
RR (10:29):
Specifically, Daphne, doing what?
Daphnee Legarza (10:32):
So looking at how to encourage and incentivize
the development ofmiddle-income housing.
We also, part of the housingaround all types of housing is
we did receive a grant from thestate last, actually this year,
we received a $3 million grantfor the Spring Lake area.
(10:53):
We're looking at trying to notjust encourage, but make it
feasible for housing to occur inparts of Lincoln City that have
not been able to develop.
RR (11:04):
Now, we're talking about some planning issues, or what
are we talking about?
Daphnee Legarza (11:10):
So it runs a whole gamut, yes.
Some of the housing-relatedissues are policy issues, things
we can do to incentivize aroundpolicy, for example.
Some of the other issues...
around housing is, again, likewe received the grant for the
Spring Lake area, isinfrastructure.
So right now there may beplaces in Lincoln City where
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it's not cost feasible todevelop housing because the
infrastructure isn't adequateand it's too costly to bring in
the adequate infrastructure.
We also are working on thevillages, which is another
potential housing developmentamongst other things.
So we're doing a lot of thingspolicy-wise, incentive-wise.
I mean, there's just a gamut.
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We are also in the process ofdoing a housing production
roadmap, and we received a grantto do this study.
We're about to bring it tocouncil in a month or two, the
final plan, if you will.
And what this is, this is aprecursor to our housing
production strategy, which wehave to do in two years.
And this is kind of a precursorto it and maybe more of a
(12:14):
technical report to help us getstarted on a lot of the
incentives and a lot of thepolicy things that we can do to
promote housing in in LincolnCity.
RR (12:23):
All right, that's a huge undertaking in itself.
Number two on the list ofto-dos would be what?
Daphnee Legarza (12:30):
I would think our big number two, we're in the
throes of budget as we speak,is revenue.
We have more of a three to fourto five-year short-term plan
looking at funding gaps where wedon't have adequate revenues
and talking to council aboutthose and what we can do on a
local level.
Also, on a broader level, forfunding resilient, basically
(12:52):
we're looking for sustainableand resilient funding revenue
streams, if you will.
And on a broader level, at thestate level, the League of
Oregon Cities has started arevenue reform program.
effort, if you will.
And that's more like a 10-yearplan.
But that's looking at cityrevenues across the state for
all cities.
And right now cities are,they're struggling with revenues
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in general.
The revenues aren't keeping upwith the expenses in cities
throughout Oregon.
So the League of Oregon Citieshas started the process of this
kind of revenue reform look thatin the state of Oregon and like
I say it's going to be a10-year process.
I think the first part of it isgoing to be a lot of education
and a lot of outreach so thatfolks understand what city
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revenues are, how they workbecause they're pretty
complicated and not every noteveryone is up to speed as far
as revenues when it comes tolocal government.
RR (13:49):
All right now we've gone from housing to raising money to
what's number three?
Daphnee Legarza (13:55):
Oh wow okay for number three
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Yeah.
Daphnee Legarza (13:58):
We have a lot of little ones, so I'm going to
try and maybe hit on another bigone, which is our master
planning efforts.
And I know I've mentioned thisbefore, but we are embarking on
master plans galore, if youwill.
We have our water master planunderway.
We have our wastewater masterplan underway.
And there's the storm drainmaster plan.
And we are also looking atembarking on our street lighting
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master plan.
So we're just looking atcreating these plans that are
going to help us 5, 10, 15, 20years down the road so that we
know what's needed and we knowwhat we have to do moving
forward so we can budgetaccordingly or we can plan
accordingly so we're not we're Idon't want to say I mean we're
(14:41):
an aging city like all citiesright so we just need to keep up
with things we need to plan forfuture needs and we're doing
our best to at least understandwhat those future needs are
across the board infrastructurewise
RR (14:54):
that's a lot of glass floats in the air
Daphnee Legarza (14:57):
Yes.
That's
RR (15:01):
a lot of glass floors.
We wish you continued successwith that.
And we know that you will bebringing this to council.
If people have got input theywant to make to Daphne about one
of these three, what do theydo?
Daphnee Legarza (15:15):
So throughout all these processes, there's
going to be plenty ofopportunity for public
discussion.
comment, public outreach,definitely attend the city
council meetings.
And then, like I say, with alot of these things, there's
going to be education, there'sgoing to be outreach involved.
These aren't short-term things,if you will.
It's going to be quite theprocess.
And there's going to be aneducational process.
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There's going to be a publicoutreach project.
One thing that we just hadrecently out there for the
public was our strategic plansurvey information that was out
there.
And we had quite a robustresponse.
We're working on our strategicplan development right now, and
we are partnering.
We're using the Coraggio Groupto do this study, and there's
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four other cities that are inthe group with us through the
League of Oregon cities that aredoing their strategic plans
while we do our strategic plan.
So we all sent out surveys, andwe in Lincoln City had one of
the most robust responses of allthe cities.
So we're excited about that.
We got a lot of goodinformation back from those
surveys.
I hope you both took thesurvey.
And then we're going to bedeveloping our strategic plan,
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which is basically our roadmap.
All also based on the council'sstrategic priorities, it's kind
of the city's roadmap to helpus prioritize these things as we
move forward.
RR (16:27):
City Manager Daphne LaGarza, back in a moment.
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RR (17:04):
And our next guest on the Double R Show is the erstwhile
mayor of the city of LincolnCity, Mayor Susan Wacke.
Mayor, thanks for coming in.
Susan Wahlke (17:12):
Thanks for having me.
RR (17:14):
You have been on the council for a number of years, not only
as mayor, but as a councilperson, right?
Susan Wahlke (17:20):
Yes, I was on council and prior to that I was
on budget committee and then Ilost my race for mayor and was
off for about two and a halfyears but i was watching and
when senator anderson waselected to the state senate his
position became available and iran and was elected so i have
(17:44):
actually been mayor since juneof 2022 okay or 2021
RR (17:52):
what brings you the most satisfaction in that
Susan Wahlke (17:55):
Representing Lincoln City and communicating
with our residents.
As a chamber ambassador, Ipromoted Lincoln City, and now
as its mayor, I promote LincolnCity.
RR (18:08):
And the satisfaction for you...
accomplishments you feel thathave been noteworthy, if you
will, that you've been involvedin?
Susan Wahlke (18:18):
Well, so many things that have taken place in
the last two years have takenfive, six, seven years to
accomplish.
So it hasn't just been when I'mmayor.
A lot of things happenedstarted to happen when I was on
council and then thingscontinued and now we're seeing
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some results of all that hardwork.
RR (18:42):
I know earlier in the program we had the city manager
on and she was talking aboutforecasting out to three, five,
ten years.
That takes a lot of Boy, Idon't know what the right word
would be to be able to look thatfar into the future.
Susan Wahlke (18:59):
Long-range planting is really, really
important.
Back in the old days, when Iwas a city employee, we had a
wonderful finance department whowas really good at long-range
planning and looking into thefuture of what the city's needs
are.
And I don't mean to discreditour current finance department,
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but Ron Tierney and Bill Workswere amazing, and they set the
city up for some really goodthings.
I mean, it's just to see howthey were able to establish the
lodging tax so that we have lotsof ways that our lodging tax
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can help our city.
Our city hall building was paidfor by lodging tax dollars.
Our new police department waspaid for with lodging tax
dollars.
And that's a lot moreflexibility than some cities
have.
RR (20:02):
Are there other things that you feel should be done with
those dollars now as you lookinto the future?
Susan Wahlke (20:12):
I feel that we should be able to spend more of
our lodging tax dollars oninfrastructure.
Our infrastructure has tosupport 30,000 people.
on a busy summer weekend.
There's only 10,000 people herein town who are primarily
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paying for that infrastructure.
When visitors come, they wanttheir toilets to flush, they
want clean water, they wantstreets that aren't all bumpy.
And I would like a little moreflexibility, not just for
Lincoln City, but for all citiesthroughout Oregon.
RR (20:49):
Would you see that as something you will champion, if
you will, with the League ofOregon Cities?
Susan Wahlke (20:55):
I have and I continue to.
RR (20:58):
Politically speaking, that's exactly what you're into on
that type of basis, right?
Susan Wahlke (21:05):
I'm very happy to be a board member of the Oregon
Mayor's Association.
I've had one meeting so far.
And I really enjoyed the groupbecause...
We're all about solvingproblems and not politically.
We don't talk politics.
We just get things done.
RR (21:26):
And I certainly hope that you've taken the 2025 Visitor
Guide Explore Lincoln City tothose meetings to say and brag a
little bit about your hometown.
Susan Wahlke (21:38):
Yes, I do.
The Oregon Mayors Associationhas a great program at our
annual conference.
We each...
are expected to bring a basketrepresenting our city, things
from our city.
And thanks to the The manygreat donations I get from our
local businesses, I'm able toput together a good basket that
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then we have a silent auction.
And all those proceeds go toscholarships so that mayors of
small towns can come to ourconference.
RR (22:12):
Very good.
We have quickly run it out oftime.
We're looking at the 60thanniversary of the city of
Lincoln City.
Any specific things that youhope to The
Susan Wahlke (22:27):
community center will have free admission on
March 3rd.
We're not going to do the bighoopla that we did for the 50th,
but maybe we can on the 75th.
RR (22:38):
We'll have the parties just the same.
Susan Wahlke (22:40):
That's right.
Celebrate being 60.
RR (22:44):
That's not a bad thing.
Susan Wahlke (22:45):
No.
RR (22:46):
That's not a bad
Susan Wahlke (22:47):
thing.
I remember doing that a longtime ago.
RR (22:50):
Mayor Susan Wonky celebrating her birthday of
sorts.
We'll just leave it at that,Mayor.
Jana (22:58):
Thank you.
RR (22:59):
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RR (23:49):
Well, our special thanks to our guests for being with us
today on the Double R Show.
Some other activities in andaround the region are
forthcoming.
March 5, down at Gracie'sSeahag in Funfield, beautiful
downtown Depot Bay, Fleet ofFlowers, Fish, and Chips Dinner.
Son Paul (24:06):
Oh, I'm thinking about heading down
RR (24:07):
there.
Absolutely, positively.
This is the event that doesprovide the funding to buy all
of the flowers for all of theboats that are covered with
flowers on Memorial Day and thengo to sea.
So it's $25 and all proceeds goto the Fleet of Flowers, Fish
and Chips, Coleslaw, GarlicBread, and a scoop of sherbet.
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And there's also going to be asilent auction and a 50-50
raffle.
So make certain that you putthat on your calendar.
Go on down to Depot Bay to theSea Hag for good times are
happening in beautiful downtownDepot Bay.
And icons of the sea, that'sgoing to be something that you
know a little bit more about.
Son Paul (24:47):
Yeah, so we've got another...
taco master printing class atthe Pelican Brew Pub Saturday,
March 15th.
The Ides of March there from 11to 5 at the Pelican Brew Pub.
So go to cascadehead.org andregister for one of these
limited seats for an exquisitemaster printing class of these
incredible icons of the sea.
RR (25:08):
And we've got a Mardi Gras celebration going to be taking
place at the Lincoln CityCultural Center.
This is a fundraiser for theSluts Bay Music Festival.
It's $125.00 per person.
That is Saturday night,Saturday night.
We all get together on Saturdaynight, 5.30 to 9.30 again at
the Cultural Center.
Taft High is annual career andcommunity college fair coming up
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on April 16th, 9 to noon.
This is an opportunity toshowcase your business, your
college, your trade school, orthe entire student body.
Reserve your space today.
You brought in a catalog byvisitors This is just well done.
Son Paul (25:52):
Yeah, it's a real jewel.
Exploring Lincoln City's gottheir new visitor guide out for
the season.
And highlighted, I have to givea shout out to the Cascade Head
UNESCO site here that's in ourarea.
And really kind of features alot of that, but it reaches into
all the aspects of ourcommunity.
So I'd recommend people gettinga copy of this themselves and
(26:13):
sharing it with your family andfriends and entice them to not
only visit, but come move to thebeach.
Well, yeah.
RR (26:19):
And on top of that, when your family and friends come
down here to visit you andyou're wondering what they can
do, duh,
Son Paul (26:25):
here it is.
Yeah, it's a really nice pieceand very informative.
Obviously, all the lodgingfolks will want to get some
copies of these and get thoseout into the hands of their
customers.
RR (26:36):
And I assume for copies, you can go to the fourth floor of
City Hall at the ExplorerLincoln City office up there on
the fourth floor, and they wouldhave them there.
I don't know where
Son Paul (26:46):
else.
I assume that's going to be theone way you could grab them.
sure, and then I'd just reachout to Explore Lincoln City
individually to find out how tobest get them maybe for your
properties or the like.
RR (26:56):
And last but not least, I'd like to draw your attention
again to the third annual Homeand Garden Show sponsored by
Habitat for Humanity.
This is a major fundraisingactivity for Habitat.
And again, they do just somewonderful things.
There will be raffles, silentauction, free admission.
This year they moved it to theNewport Rec Center, bouncing
(27:18):
back 4th and North and SouthCounty, which makes a lot of
sense.
Saturday, April the 26th, 10 to3.
And if you would like a boothsponsorship, call 458-277-7606.
And again, congratulations andthank you to the people at the
(27:39):
Lincoln City Glass Center.
Last weekend, they blew thatglass float, which was just
absolutely staggering.
I have not stood in a facilitylike that and watched the glass
float just explode if you willand as it's happening everybody
(28:00):
in the audience starts clappingthey were just excited about
what was happening right
Son Paul (28:07):
before their very eyes yeah it's pretty impressive to
see these floats being blown youknow large and small so you
know you can go down to theglass center and blow your own
float of course and even justwatch folks that are doing it so
yeah It's really quite anattribute here in town.
RR (28:21):
And Kelly Howard and her company just did a wonderful job
of blowing that huge glassfloat.
It was wonderful.
Son Paul (28:29):
Anything else on your side of the table?
Just a happy 60th.
Congratulations, Lincoln City,on their diamond celebration.
RR (28:35):
And go Taft Tigers.
Man, I'm excited to go watchthe kids play basketball.
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Have a happy day.
Jana (28:55):
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