July 17, 2025 • 29 mins
Episode Highlights:
As the song goes....”Have a Cigar, you're gonna go far”...
Join RR and his guests for a look at local connections to greatness in sound editing, motion pictures, modeling, advertising, and how some keen and spontaneous acting led one lad from the precipice of a rock wall in Pennsylvania to the Jack Coyne Stage.
- Jason Kutchma, Theatre West Actor & President
- Christopher Melton, Filmmaker and Sound Editor
- Meredith K. De Witt-Griffin, Model and Dancer (aka Miss Muriel)
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Miss Muriel (00:07):
Welcome
Jana (00:07):
to the Double R Show, the podcast that features everything
about North Lincoln County.
The Double R Show directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
RR (00:30):
Welcome to the Double R Show.
It's going to be an interestingprogram.
A little diverse this time ofyear.
Tell me about it.
Tell me about it.
We're going to be talking aboutcigars.
Okay.
Cigars is always a big thing.
Somebody turning 50 or anorganization turning 50 at
least.
And then...
Women in the Cabinet?
Son Paul (00:48):
Yeah, yeah.
So we've got a film that'scoming out or has come out that
somebody locally has actuallydone the sound editing for.
So that's interesting.
Miss Muriel, The Cigar Side ofThings.
That story is fantastic.
It's a fun story.
Yeah, very interesting story.
And then if you want to turn50, you probably want to give up
those cigars.
But the Theatre West hasmanaged.
(01:09):
So they have turned 50 thisyear.
RR (01:12):
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The president of Theater Westis with us, and this is Jason
(02:47):
Kuchma.
And Jason, welcome on board.
Jason Kutchma (02:49):
Thank you very much.
RR (02:50):
Great to be here.
Appreciate your time.
You are the president ofTheater West.
Yes.
And what brought you to that?
Jason Kutchma (02:57):
Well, I was at the Naughty Mermaid and I was
working on my house and I wasvery depressed about the
progress.
And as I'm sitting at the bartrying to figure out a
particular project, I waslooking through the Oregon coast
today.
And a woman came up to me andsaid, is that the new Oregon
(03:19):
coast today?
I said, she is.
She took it out of my hands.
She said, I'm wonderful minute.
I'm wonderful minute.
Oh, looky here.
I'm in it.
I'm in it.
We're in it.
And she turned around to hertable and she high fives this
fella sitting next to her.
And I said, oh, you're in thenew play, Bakersfield Miss.
She said, I am.
I am.
You should come see it.
And I said, well, I planned onit.
And she said, are you an actor?
(03:41):
And I said, I am not.
And she said, you've neveracted before.
And I said, well, I did act,but only once.
And she said, tell me about it.
And I said, well, I was eightyears old.
And I was living inPennsylvania with my parents.
And we had a very modestbackyard.
And I was playing in thebackyard with my brother.
(04:02):
And it was a beautifulPennsylvania summer day.
And my mother really wasinspired to make a garden.
And so she convinced my dad togo to the local quarry and get a
bunch of rocks and do asemi-circle of rocks about a
foot and a half high.
And then that turned out great.
And she convinced him to go tothe garden center, get a bunch
(04:23):
of soil.
And then she got thepollinators and the vegetables.
And by the time that she wasdone, it was gorgeous.
It took about a week.
And it really was beautiful.
And about a week and a halflater, I was playing in the
backyard with my brother again.
And I started walking on thiswall, and my foot must have
tripped up a keystone because itrolled away along with several
(04:46):
dozen other rocks and along withthe soil and the planters.
And I looked at my brother.
I was flush.
I still remember the feeling,and it was the, you're going to
get in trouble.
And it seemed like an eternity,but my mom had come down
expecting me to give thislemonade or something.
And she saw what had happened,and the look on her face was one
(05:09):
of just sadness and anger.
And she looked at me, and shelooked at my brother, and then
she looked at me again, and sheasked, did you do this, pointing
her finger at me?
And I acted like I did not.
RR (05:25):
And
Jason Kutchma (05:27):
the woman said, did she believe you?
And I said, she did.
And she said, is that a truestory?
And I said...
It is not.
And she said, I'd love to haveyou try out for my play.
And so I tried out.
That was for Harold and Maude.
And then I ended up workingbackstage with it.
And it was just a lot of fun.
(05:48):
It was admittedly a lot of funto do.
RR (05:51):
At the opening of Arsenic and Old Ice, you were out front
and talked a little bit aboutthis being community theater.
Talk a little bit more aboutthat.
Jason Kutchma (06:00):
I think when I first started doing it, it was
with Miss Reardon.
No, I started doing it withMiss Reardon.
And it's just a way of kind ofdrumming up community support
and to make people realize, Itell them that it's not, you
know, we are.
the theater community, Isuppose, but to some extent, we
try and be welcoming, you know,to people that just want to get
(06:21):
involved.
And, and our hope is that ifyou come to see a play, you're
watching your community, if youlive in Lincoln County, or
Lincoln City, you're watchingyour community put on a
production.
And our hope is that if you'rehere watching your community put
on theater, then maybe one dayyou'll become involved to put on
theater for your community.
And it's worked, we've, we'vegotten a couple people from
(06:42):
that.
And if you know, feels good.
I think that It can beintimidating, you know, just,
you know, maybe showing up for atryout.
But we've recently starteddoing something new where our
tryouts aren't just at thetheater.
They're the first ones atBeachcrest.
And we did that with Arsenicand Old Lays.
And it went really well.
It had this terrific feeling inthat room.
RR (07:04):
It was wonderful.
Unknown (07:05):
Yeah.
RR (07:06):
You are also the president 50 years later.
Yes.
That's got to feel pretty
Jason Kutchma (07:12):
good.
Whenever, you know, there's anytalk about Theater West,
usually whatever challenge wehave, it's all volunteer for 50
years.
And it's incredible.
I mean, nobody's ever beenpaid.
Yes, we have to pay forwhatever, electrical work or
whatever.
(07:32):
Yes, right, right.
But it is a labor of love.
And to me, what's special aboutit is because it's volunteer,
anybody can walk away at anypoint.
Sometimes they do.
But most of the times, eventhough they can, they don't.
They still stick aroundwhatever we're going through.
Did you ever know Jack Coyne?
(07:53):
I never did, no.
No, I did not.
Oh, you missed it real piece.
I bet I did.
Piece of work.
I bet I did.
RR (07:59):
He was something else.
Yeah.
He was something else.
And the whole building, MarkLaRock and Jack Coyne donated it
to Theater West, which hasreally been a godsend for the
theater.
Jason Kutchma (08:12):
Very much so.
A lot of people that I'vetalked to that have worked in
community theater in otherstates and in this state, in
this area, they said it's just areal blessing.
They're challenged because alot of their productions they
have to make money.
It has, that has to happenwhere we have, we do, but we
(08:34):
have a lot of flex, much moreflexibility than they do.
We can, you know, take somechances on, on plays that not,
maybe not be risky.
And, you know, maybe from amoney making standpoint, it
might
RR (08:45):
be primarily you do comedies, not musicals.
It seems
Jason Kutchma (08:48):
like it's a pretty mix up, you know, I
RR (08:51):
think the, uh, last musical that I saw at theater West,
there were a bunch of nuns,nuns, Nonsense.
Jason Kutchma (08:58):
Yeah.
Nonsense.
Yeah.
That's the last one that we'vedone.
And it's not for lack ofinterest.
There is some interest, but ittakes a lot more more an aspect
of a person's talent, you know,that not a lot of actors, not
every actor has.
And then you have to deal withfinding musicians to be able to
(09:19):
do it.
And when that happens, youknow, musicians, it's just those
likely should be a paidposition.
RR (09:26):
Last but not least, Arsenic in Old Way is going to be off
the stage now.
Jason Kutchma (09:33):
What is the future?
Moon Over Buffalo is the onethat we have for our summer
play.
And it's another comedy,another Frank Capra-affiliated
one as well.
It's about a couple that isstuck in Buffalo, and they are
(09:54):
believing that Frank Capra isgoing to make it to one of their
plays to see them perform, andthey're excited to perform for
him.
RR (10:01):
Jason, appreciate you being here.
Theater West, it is a treasurefor the community, and we
certainly encourage everybody tobecome part of it.
Warden parcel of Cedar West.
For sure.
We'll be back.
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RR (10:43):
Christopher Melton is our next guest.
He is currently the executivedirector for the North Lincoln
County Historical Museum.
But you are into film.
That's where you got yourtraining, correct?
Christopher Melton (10:55):
Yeah.
Well, I would say I started outin art school.
I wanted to be an artist.
RR (11:00):
Where?
Christopher Melton (11:01):
I went to the Western Washington
University.
RR (11:04):
Okay.
Christopher Melton (11:04):
So up in Bellingham.
And I studied art and arthistory.
And I wanted to be aperformance installation artist,
which is you know reallylucrative
RR (11:15):
job security there what is that position what would you do
Christopher Melton (11:20):
what would I do as a professional artist or
RR (11:25):
yes
Christopher Melton (11:26):
yeah well if that would have been I would
have had to go right out ofschool and apply to like the
Guggenheim and get fellowshipsand get into the art world and
spend my life in the art worldand I know people who have done
that but that's just that's justnot in my wheelhouse.
RR (11:45):
So you are involved right now with producing a program or
a movie of some sort?
Christopher Melton (11:52):
Yeah.
So after I gave up on that artthing, I decided I was going to
be a filmmaker.
And I went and got an MFA fromthe University of Iowa in film
and video production, where Imet a ton of amazing people.
And since then, I've gone intoarchives and museums, but I
still occasionally will work onfilms that my friends are making
(12:12):
or projects that I'm reallyexcited about.
And I primarily do soundrecording, sound editing, sound
design, and mixing.
RR (12:23):
Is there a relationship between your work with the
museum and the sound editingthat you do, I guess, on the
side or in addition to
Christopher Melton (12:36):
not directly I feel like my film background
is very connected to thespecific interests I have in
archiving like archiving homemovies and VHS and transforming
one moving picture audio visualmedium into another making
(12:57):
everything accessible to peopleI think is really important so
that's that's like my day jobright and then in all that free
time I have I get to sit at mycomputer and make weird sounds.
RR (13:08):
Is our museum loaded with videotape of days gone by?
Christopher Melton (13:13):
So we do have several videos on display.
We have some original homemovie footage of Pixieland and
the Pixie Kitchen.
We've digitized a lot of thehome movie collection that was
behind the scenes.
So we have original footagefrom the 1950s of The Fleet of
Flowers, which is amazing towatch.
We have road trip footage.
(13:34):
from the 60s and 70s.
Some of the first movingpicture footage of the Oregon
coast is in our collection.
And I am working more and moreto make that accessible to
people.
We also have a huge collectionof oral history interviews,
audio cassette tapes from the80s, all the way up to VHS from
(13:56):
the early 2000s.
It's just hours and hours ofpeople talking about growing up
and living in the growth of whatis now like Let's
RR (14:08):
go back to the video or not video, the program that you are
doing the sound work for.
Is there a storyline in thatthat you can disclose?
Christopher Melton (14:17):
It is called Woman in the Cabinet.
It is an artsy indie filminspired a lot by...
RR (14:25):
What do you mean by that artsy indie?
Tell me what that means.
Christopher Melton (14:29):
I don't really know how to describe it.
And this is why I'm a sounddesigner and not a...
Not a producer.
I make the weird sounds for it.
It's a feature length film,narrative fiction.
And I would say overall, it'ssort of about grief and
combating with Life incontemporary
RR (14:50):
society.
Has it already been shot?
Christopher Melton (14:51):
Yes.
So it's all been filmed.
It's been edited.
And I am currently doing theADR and putting in the foley and
the background sounds and themusic and getting it all done.
to sound like its own world.
RR (15:07):
How do you market something like that?
Once you've got it completed,what do you do with it?
Christopher Melton (15:12):
Oh, I don't do marketing.
RR (15:14):
Oh, okay.
Somebody has to.
Christopher Melton (15:16):
Yeah.
So the director and theproducing team, they're
submitting it to film festivals.
And if it gets picked up by abig film festival, then perhaps
someone will pick it up fordistribution.
But it's going to go to the bigfilm festivals first.
And if it gets accepted,awesome.
If not, we'll go to other filmfestivals and try to get It
released somewhere in somecapacity, but with films like
(15:39):
this, it's really more of apassion project and not
necessarily a, this is going tomake us lots of money, you know?
RR (15:47):
Ooh, nice thought, but.
Christopher Melton (15:49):
Right.
RR (15:49):
Nice thought, but.
And we can look for that filmto be released when?
Christopher Melton (15:54):
It just really depends on when we get
into festivals.
We'll be doing the final mix atthe end of May, so then...
that will be done and he'll bedoing, he's getting color
grading and all thatpost-production stuff, all the
final VFX and stuff finishedaround that time too.
So hopefully it'll be done inJune and then it just kind of
(16:18):
depends on where and when itgets picked up.
RR (16:21):
And again, the title, Christopher, is?
Christopher Melton (16:23):
Woman in the Cabinet.
RR (16:25):
Woman in the Cabinet.
Anybody of star quality in themovie?
Christopher Melton (16:31):
No, we're working with, you know,
independent actors, folks, a lotof people who aren't actors,
which the director I'm workingwith really likes to work with
people who are new to it, whobring a different perspective to
acting and sort of livedexperience.
RR (16:48):
We hope down the road we'll see.
I remember when I interviewedChristopher Milton back in the
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RR (17:28):
Meredith DeWitt Griffin.
Miss Muriel.
Miss Muriel.
Believe it or not, that is acigar.
Miss Muriel (17:36):
That is correct.
RR (17:38):
You wound up as the spokesperson for Muriel Senator
Cigars.
How'd that come about?
Miss Muriel (17:45):
That was when the people from Muriel Cigar Company
were struggling a little bit intheir business, apparently.
A lot of people were at thattime, and it was in the 50s,
late 50s, early 60s, and they...
They went around two differentmodeling studios in the city and
then in other places all acrossthe United States.
(18:06):
I gather, I'm guessing at that,but I think they were, you
know, looking, they weredesperate.
RR (18:10):
Looking for a new face.
Miss Muriel (18:12):
Looking for a new face, thinking that they would
have a whole new image toportray of themselves across the
United States.
And with that, they would get,they'd start right out with a
particular face and that wouldbe their image.
RR (18:27):
So how did you get selected for becoming Miss Muriel?
Miss Muriel (18:32):
Yeah, I was modeling in a modeling studio in
Kansas City, Missouri.
I started doing that when I was15, and it was just kind of
learning the ropes.
I was a dancer.
I had a dance at a dancecompany eventually, so I was a
very athletic person.
And...
I grew up across the streetfrom a park, so I was always
playing in the park and hangingon the swings and doing silly
(18:54):
stuff like kids do.
Anyway, at this point in time,I went to the modeling studio to
just check in.
I had been out on anassignment, and I was doing a
shooting or something with aphotographer.
I came back to just check intothe studio to see if there was
anything else they wanted thatday.
(19:15):
And when I walked by theregional director's office, a
man was sitting in there.
Then she was talking to him.
I assumed she was interviewinghim.
and didn't know who it was, andI didn't want to bother her to
let her know I was back, so Ijust walked by and just kind of
nodded, you know, by the door.
And she did a double take, andshe says, right there, hold it
(19:37):
right there.
She says, that's who I'mtalking about.
And she'd been in there tellinghim all about me, the model
that she was thinking would beperfect for what he wanted.
So she called me in.
My hair was so long that Icould sit on it.
It was very, very long.
I had it down and all thatstuff.
But that day I had it up in abig bun on top of my head.
(19:57):
And this man was sitting there,and he did a double take, and
then he looked again, and youcould tell he was used to
working around models, you know,and he said, oh, well, turn
around, let me see.
And you do all your, you styleand do all, it's like dance
steps, it's just silly.
You know, stop, slide your footin, do this.
Anyway, I did all this dunk I'msupposed to do to show myself
(20:19):
off, and then I stood therequietly and smiled at him, and
he said, is that all of yourreal hair?
And I said, yes, sir.
He said, well, how long is it?
And I said, it comes down whereI can sit on it.
He says, oh, could you take itout of the bun?
You know what I thought?
Oh, my God.
So you got all these safetypins or, you know, hairpins and,
(20:39):
you know, and hairnet and allthis junk.
And I'm taking my hair down.
And of course, it's all overthe place.
And he was just flabbergasted.
And he said, that's it.
That's it.
Turn around again.
I did.
And he said, that's it.
You You're the new Miss MurielCigar.
What?
Muriel Cigar?
RR (21:00):
This then started a new campaign for them that
eventually saved the company.
Miss Muriel (21:06):
We literally, from what I was told, the way that
they went about putting thiswhole new production together
with the public was what savedtheir business, literally.
And...
I did a lot of livepresentations after that.
I had a costume that I had towear, and I had a big shawl
(21:29):
thing like this that you had towear to look like the...
RR (21:33):
You're pretty young at this time, right?
Miss Muriel (21:36):
Yeah, I was 17.
Yes.
And they taught me how to holda cigar.
RR (21:46):
A 17-year-old young girl learning how to hold a cigar.
I
Miss Muriel (21:51):
had to light the cigar.
I had to smoke the cigar.
Gag me with a spoon.
No, I mean, if I was maybe usedto smoking other cigars or
smoking at all, that would havebeen okay.
Not so.
But whatever they asked me todo with these, I just did what
they told me to do.
RR (22:12):
You were also part of a dance troupe in Kansas City,
correct?
Miss Muriel (22:16):
Yes.
But that was a few years laterwhen I was in my early 20s.
I was in a dance company.
RR (22:22):
And the dance company was a precursor for you doing
musicals?
Miss Muriel (22:28):
Oh, yeah.
I did a lot of stuff.
I did summer theater musicals.
And the dance company itselfwas, we danced all around the
area.
But we also had someconnections.
This was in Kansas City,Missouri.
This was back in the Midwest.
And that city at the timewasn't as big.
as it is now, which is six oreight million people.
(22:49):
That's big.
But they were involved with alot of stuff.
They had a good summer theaterstock, outdoor theater thing.
It was really cool.
So I got to do a lot of thesethings, these types of
presentations.
But the dance company...
And one of the men, one of thechoreographers was from New York
(23:09):
and the other was from KansasCity, the area.
So they got together.
They both had degrees in danceand all that.
And their names were PaulChambers and Cliff Kerwin.
And they were about the sameage, probably in their 30s.
And they took us to all thesedifferent places, and we did
production numbers.
(23:30):
And finally, when they got to acertain point, they wanted to
do something really big, somesort of a really big production
to really make an impact, andthen with publicity.
And sure enough, they decidedthat we would go to New York.
And we would be in the World'sFair and represent Missouri in
(23:54):
music and dance.
And that is precisely what wedid.
RR (23:58):
Ms.
Muriel, I appreciate you beingin today.
And that's Ms.
Muriel's Senator Cigar.
It is Meredith DeWitt Griffin.
And again, thanks for beinghere.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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Well, we have a number ofevents forthcoming in and around
the Lincoln City community,including a senior fair.
Oh, good.
Yes.
Senior fair going to be up atChinook Winds Casino Resort
October 7th.
And if you'd like to have abooth in that context, son,
Phil, Phil Robertson, he's incharge of Senior Fair 2020.
(25:31):
Five, 26, 27 years.
It's been going on for a longtime.
It has indeed, yeah.
And I feel like a bit of asenior.
Stuff-A-Bus, a fun event.
And this Stuff-A-Bus has raisedliterally thousands of dollars
in cash and merchandise to makecertain our students go back to
(25:52):
school with the items that theyreally need.
So Stuff-A-Bus will beSeptember 5th up at Lincoln City
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Donations can be dropped off atLincoln City Outlets office and
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(26:14):
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Yeah, again, like last year, I know they had just tons
of bags that they collectivelyput together with the helps of
donations, but a lot on theirbacks as well.
So, yeah, come down there andgive them some donation and
support our returning students,which it's only July, but that's
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Paul?
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Yeah, so just again, now on the 26th, the sand art
competition at Rhodes End.
So you want to come down tothat.
You can sign up for your team.
20 bucks gives you a 20 by 20square to do your own sand art.
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So not just fun, but you get topotentially win some stuff.
And get some good exercise atthe same time.
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Yeah, it's going to bewonderful down there, right, at
Rhodes Inn State Park.
And then also coming up inAugust, since we're kind of
forecasting out a little bit,we've got Kayaking in the
Daylight.
Yeah, so 10 o'clock startthere, Saturday, August 23rd.
That'll be...
At a night park.
Okay.
Yep.
And you can...
Register online, and then ifyou don't have your own gear,
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we've got a partnership withSafari Town, and you can rent
from them and get a freedrop-off because they're going
to be helping us host.
RR (27:44):
Is there a limited number of people that can participate?
Son Paul (27:47):
Yeah, I think it's 20, 25 for the daylight, and then
the evening one, which we'redoing on September 6th, we're
doing a kayak in the moonlight.
That one, I think, yeah, it'slike 15 folks or so.
You probably
RR (27:59):
don't want to get too far up the river at night,
Son Paul (28:01):
right?
Well, we just want to keep thesize down, yeah.
We have good visibility whenyou bring in light and you've
got your stuff and the moon'sout and everything else.
But, yeah, it was a fun eventwe did last year, kayaking under
the harvest moon, September 6,2025.
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RR (00:30):
Welcome to the Double R Show.
It's going to be an interestingprogram.
A little diverse this time ofyear.
Tell me about it.
Tell me about it.
We're going to be talking aboutcigars.
Okay.
Cigars is always a big thing.
Somebody turning 50 or anorganization turning 50 at
least.
And then...
Women in the Cabinet?
Son Paul (00:48):
Yeah, yeah.
So we've got a film that'scoming out or has come out that
somebody locally has actuallydone the sound editing for.
So that's interesting.
Miss Muriel, The Cigar Side ofThings.
That story is fantastic.
It's a fun story.
Yeah, very interesting story.
And then if you want to turn50, you probably want to give up
those cigars.
But the Theatre West hasmanaged.
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So they have turned 50 thisyear.
RR (01:12):
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The president of Theater Westis with us, and this is Jason
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Kuchma.
And Jason, welcome on board.
Jason Kutchma (02:49):
Thank you very much.
RR (02:50):
Great to be here.
Appreciate your time.
You are the president ofTheater West.
Yes.
And what brought you to that?
Jason Kutchma (02:57):
Well, I was at the Naughty Mermaid and I was
working on my house and I wasvery depressed about the
progress.
And as I'm sitting at the bartrying to figure out a
particular project, I waslooking through the Oregon coast
today.
And a woman came up to me andsaid, is that the new Oregon
(03:19):
coast today?
I said, she is.
She took it out of my hands.
She said, I'm wonderful minute.
I'm wonderful minute.
Oh, looky here.
I'm in it.
I'm in it.
We're in it.
And she turned around to hertable and she high fives this
fella sitting next to her.
And I said, oh, you're in thenew play, Bakersfield Miss.
She said, I am.
I am.
You should come see it.
And I said, well, I planned onit.
And she said, are you an actor?
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And I said, I am not.
And she said, you've neveracted before.
And I said, well, I did act,but only once.
And she said, tell me about it.
And I said, well, I was eightyears old.
And I was living inPennsylvania with my parents.
And we had a very modestbackyard.
And I was playing in thebackyard with my brother.
(04:02):
And it was a beautifulPennsylvania summer day.
And my mother really wasinspired to make a garden.
And so she convinced my dad togo to the local quarry and get a
bunch of rocks and do asemi-circle of rocks about a
foot and a half high.
And then that turned out great.
And she convinced him to go tothe garden center, get a bunch
(04:23):
of soil.
And then she got thepollinators and the vegetables.
And by the time that she wasdone, it was gorgeous.
It took about a week.
And it really was beautiful.
And about a week and a halflater, I was playing in the
backyard with my brother again.
And I started walking on thiswall, and my foot must have
tripped up a keystone because itrolled away along with several
(04:46):
dozen other rocks and along withthe soil and the planters.
And I looked at my brother.
I was flush.
I still remember the feeling,and it was the, you're going to
get in trouble.
And it seemed like an eternity,but my mom had come down
expecting me to give thislemonade or something.
And she saw what had happened,and the look on her face was one
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of just sadness and anger.
And she looked at me, and shelooked at my brother, and then
she looked at me again, and sheasked, did you do this, pointing
her finger at me?
And I acted like I did not.
RR (05:25):
And
Jason Kutchma (05:27):
the woman said, did she believe you?
And I said, she did.
And she said, is that a truestory?
And I said...
It is not.
And she said, I'd love to haveyou try out for my play.
And so I tried out.
That was for Harold and Maude.
And then I ended up workingbackstage with it.
And it was just a lot of fun.
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It was admittedly a lot of funto do.
RR (05:51):
At the opening of Arsenic and Old Ice, you were out front
and talked a little bit aboutthis being community theater.
Talk a little bit more aboutthat.
Jason Kutchma (06:00):
I think when I first started doing it, it was
with Miss Reardon.
No, I started doing it withMiss Reardon.
And it's just a way of kind ofdrumming up community support
and to make people realize, Itell them that it's not, you
know, we are.
the theater community, Isuppose, but to some extent, we
try and be welcoming, you know,to people that just want to get
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involved.
And, and our hope is that ifyou come to see a play, you're
watching your community, if youlive in Lincoln County, or
Lincoln City, you're watchingyour community put on a
production.
And our hope is that if you'rehere watching your community put
on theater, then maybe one dayyou'll become involved to put on
theater for your community.
And it's worked, we've, we'vegotten a couple people from
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that.
And if you know, feels good.
I think that It can beintimidating, you know, just,
you know, maybe showing up for atryout.
But we've recently starteddoing something new where our
tryouts aren't just at thetheater.
They're the first ones atBeachcrest.
And we did that with Arsenicand Old Lays.
And it went really well.
It had this terrific feeling inthat room.
RR (07:04):
It was wonderful.
Unknown (07:05):
Yeah.
RR (07:06):
You are also the president 50 years later.
Yes.
That's got to feel pretty
Jason Kutchma (07:12):
good.
Whenever, you know, there's anytalk about Theater West,
usually whatever challenge wehave, it's all volunteer for 50
years.
And it's incredible.
I mean, nobody's ever beenpaid.
Yes, we have to pay forwhatever, electrical work or
whatever.
(07:32):
Yes, right, right.
But it is a labor of love.
And to me, what's special aboutit is because it's volunteer,
anybody can walk away at anypoint.
Sometimes they do.
But most of the times, eventhough they can, they don't.
They still stick aroundwhatever we're going through.
Did you ever know Jack Coyne?
(07:53):
I never did, no.
No, I did not.
Oh, you missed it real piece.
I bet I did.
Piece of work.
I bet I did.
RR (07:59):
He was something else.
Yeah.
He was something else.
And the whole building, MarkLaRock and Jack Coyne donated it
to Theater West, which hasreally been a godsend for the
theater.
Jason Kutchma (08:12):
Very much so.
A lot of people that I'vetalked to that have worked in
community theater in otherstates and in this state, in
this area, they said it's just areal blessing.
They're challenged because alot of their productions they
have to make money.
It has, that has to happenwhere we have, we do, but we
(08:34):
have a lot of flex, much moreflexibility than they do.
We can, you know, take somechances on, on plays that not,
maybe not be risky.
And, you know, maybe from amoney making standpoint, it
might
RR (08:45):
be primarily you do comedies, not musicals.
It seems
Jason Kutchma (08:48):
like it's a pretty mix up, you know, I
RR (08:51):
think the, uh, last musical that I saw at theater West,
there were a bunch of nuns,nuns, Nonsense.
Jason Kutchma (08:58):
Yeah.
Nonsense.
Yeah.
That's the last one that we'vedone.
And it's not for lack ofinterest.
There is some interest, but ittakes a lot more more an aspect
of a person's talent, you know,that not a lot of actors, not
every actor has.
And then you have to deal withfinding musicians to be able to
(09:19):
do it.
And when that happens, youknow, musicians, it's just those
likely should be a paidposition.
RR (09:26):
Last but not least, Arsenic in Old Way is going to be off
the stage now.
Jason Kutchma (09:33):
What is the future?
Moon Over Buffalo is the onethat we have for our summer
play.
And it's another comedy,another Frank Capra-affiliated
one as well.
It's about a couple that isstuck in Buffalo, and they are
(09:54):
believing that Frank Capra isgoing to make it to one of their
plays to see them perform, andthey're excited to perform for
him.
RR (10:01):
Jason, appreciate you being here.
Theater West, it is a treasurefor the community, and we
certainly encourage everybody tobecome part of it.
Warden parcel of Cedar West.
For sure.
We'll be back.
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Christopher Melton is our next guest.
He is currently the executivedirector for the North Lincoln
County Historical Museum.
But you are into film.
That's where you got yourtraining, correct?
Christopher Melton (10:55):
Yeah.
Well, I would say I started outin art school.
I wanted to be an artist.
RR (11:00):
Where?
Christopher Melton (11:01):
I went to the Western Washington
University.
RR (11:04):
Okay.
Christopher Melton (11:04):
So up in Bellingham.
And I studied art and arthistory.
And I wanted to be aperformance installation artist,
which is you know reallylucrative
RR (11:15):
job security there what is that position what would you do
Christopher Melton (11:20):
what would I do as a professional artist or
RR (11:25):
yes
Christopher Melton (11:26):
yeah well if that would have been I would
have had to go right out ofschool and apply to like the
Guggenheim and get fellowshipsand get into the art world and
spend my life in the art worldand I know people who have done
that but that's just that's justnot in my wheelhouse.
RR (11:45):
So you are involved right now with producing a program or
a movie of some sort?
Christopher Melton (11:52):
Yeah.
So after I gave up on that artthing, I decided I was going to
be a filmmaker.
And I went and got an MFA fromthe University of Iowa in film
and video production, where Imet a ton of amazing people.
And since then, I've gone intoarchives and museums, but I
still occasionally will work onfilms that my friends are making
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or projects that I'm reallyexcited about.
And I primarily do soundrecording, sound editing, sound
design, and mixing.
RR (12:23):
Is there a relationship between your work with the
museum and the sound editingthat you do, I guess, on the
side or in addition to
Christopher Melton (12:36):
not directly I feel like my film background
is very connected to thespecific interests I have in
archiving like archiving homemovies and VHS and transforming
one moving picture audio visualmedium into another making
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everything accessible to peopleI think is really important so
that's that's like my day jobright and then in all that free
time I have I get to sit at mycomputer and make weird sounds.
RR (13:08):
Is our museum loaded with videotape of days gone by?
Christopher Melton (13:13):
So we do have several videos on display.
We have some original homemovie footage of Pixieland and
the Pixie Kitchen.
We've digitized a lot of thehome movie collection that was
behind the scenes.
So we have original footagefrom the 1950s of The Fleet of
Flowers, which is amazing towatch.
We have road trip footage.
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from the 60s and 70s.
Some of the first movingpicture footage of the Oregon
coast is in our collection.
And I am working more and moreto make that accessible to
people.
We also have a huge collectionof oral history interviews,
audio cassette tapes from the80s, all the way up to VHS from
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the early 2000s.
It's just hours and hours ofpeople talking about growing up
and living in the growth of whatis now like Let's
RR (14:08):
go back to the video or not video, the program that you are
doing the sound work for.
Is there a storyline in thatthat you can disclose?
Christopher Melton (14:17):
It is called Woman in the Cabinet.
It is an artsy indie filminspired a lot by...
RR (14:25):
What do you mean by that artsy indie?
Tell me what that means.
Christopher Melton (14:29):
I don't really know how to describe it.
And this is why I'm a sounddesigner and not a...
Not a producer.
I make the weird sounds for it.
It's a feature length film,narrative fiction.
And I would say overall, it'ssort of about grief and
combating with Life incontemporary
RR (14:50):
society.
Has it already been shot?
Christopher Melton (14:51):
Yes.
So it's all been filmed.
It's been edited.
And I am currently doing theADR and putting in the foley and
the background sounds and themusic and getting it all done.
to sound like its own world.
RR (15:07):
How do you market something like that?
Once you've got it completed,what do you do with it?
Christopher Melton (15:12):
Oh, I don't do marketing.
RR (15:14):
Oh, okay.
Somebody has to.
Christopher Melton (15:16):
Yeah.
So the director and theproducing team, they're
submitting it to film festivals.
And if it gets picked up by abig film festival, then perhaps
someone will pick it up fordistribution.
But it's going to go to the bigfilm festivals first.
And if it gets accepted,awesome.
If not, we'll go to other filmfestivals and try to get It
released somewhere in somecapacity, but with films like
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this, it's really more of apassion project and not
necessarily a, this is going tomake us lots of money, you know?
RR (15:47):
Ooh, nice thought, but.
Christopher Melton (15:49):
Right.
RR (15:49):
Nice thought, but.
And we can look for that filmto be released when?
Christopher Melton (15:54):
It just really depends on when we get
into festivals.
We'll be doing the final mix atthe end of May, so then...
that will be done and he'll bedoing, he's getting color
grading and all thatpost-production stuff, all the
final VFX and stuff finishedaround that time too.
So hopefully it'll be done inJune and then it just kind of
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depends on where and when itgets picked up.
RR (16:21):
And again, the title, Christopher, is?
Christopher Melton (16:23):
Woman in the Cabinet.
RR (16:25):
Woman in the Cabinet.
Anybody of star quality in themovie?
Christopher Melton (16:31):
No, we're working with, you know,
independent actors, folks, a lotof people who aren't actors,
which the director I'm workingwith really likes to work with
people who are new to it, whobring a different perspective to
acting and sort of livedexperience.
RR (16:48):
We hope down the road we'll see.
I remember when I interviewedChristopher Milton back in the
moment.
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RR (17:28):
Meredith DeWitt Griffin.
Miss Muriel.
Miss Muriel.
Believe it or not, that is acigar.
Miss Muriel (17:36):
That is correct.
RR (17:38):
You wound up as the spokesperson for Muriel Senator
Cigars.
How'd that come about?
Miss Muriel (17:45):
That was when the people from Muriel Cigar Company
were struggling a little bit intheir business, apparently.
A lot of people were at thattime, and it was in the 50s,
late 50s, early 60s, and they...
They went around two differentmodeling studios in the city and
then in other places all acrossthe United States.
(18:06):
I gather, I'm guessing at that,but I think they were, you
know, looking, they weredesperate.
RR (18:10):
Looking for a new face.
Miss Muriel (18:12):
Looking for a new face, thinking that they would
have a whole new image toportray of themselves across the
United States.
And with that, they would get,they'd start right out with a
particular face and that wouldbe their image.
RR (18:27):
So how did you get selected for becoming Miss Muriel?
Miss Muriel (18:32):
Yeah, I was modeling in a modeling studio in
Kansas City, Missouri.
I started doing that when I was15, and it was just kind of
learning the ropes.
I was a dancer.
I had a dance at a dancecompany eventually, so I was a
very athletic person.
And...
I grew up across the streetfrom a park, so I was always
playing in the park and hangingon the swings and doing silly
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stuff like kids do.
Anyway, at this point in time,I went to the modeling studio to
just check in.
I had been out on anassignment, and I was doing a
shooting or something with aphotographer.
I came back to just check intothe studio to see if there was
anything else they wanted thatday.
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And when I walked by theregional director's office, a
man was sitting in there.
Then she was talking to him.
I assumed she was interviewinghim.
and didn't know who it was, andI didn't want to bother her to
let her know I was back, so Ijust walked by and just kind of
nodded, you know, by the door.
And she did a double take, andshe says, right there, hold it
(19:37):
right there.
She says, that's who I'mtalking about.
And she'd been in there tellinghim all about me, the model
that she was thinking would beperfect for what he wanted.
So she called me in.
My hair was so long that Icould sit on it.
It was very, very long.
I had it down and all thatstuff.
But that day I had it up in abig bun on top of my head.
(19:57):
And this man was sitting there,and he did a double take, and
then he looked again, and youcould tell he was used to
working around models, you know,and he said, oh, well, turn
around, let me see.
And you do all your, you styleand do all, it's like dance
steps, it's just silly.
You know, stop, slide your footin, do this.
Anyway, I did all this dunk I'msupposed to do to show myself
(20:19):
off, and then I stood therequietly and smiled at him, and
he said, is that all of yourreal hair?
And I said, yes, sir.
He said, well, how long is it?
And I said, it comes down whereI can sit on it.
He says, oh, could you take itout of the bun?
You know what I thought?
Oh, my God.
So you got all these safetypins or, you know, hairpins and,
(20:39):
you know, and hairnet and allthis junk.
And I'm taking my hair down.
And of course, it's all overthe place.
And he was just flabbergasted.
And he said, that's it.
That's it.
Turn around again.
I did.
And he said, that's it.
You You're the new Miss MurielCigar.
What?
Muriel Cigar?
RR (21:00):
This then started a new campaign for them that
eventually saved the company.
Miss Muriel (21:06):
We literally, from what I was told, the way that
they went about putting thiswhole new production together
with the public was what savedtheir business, literally.
And...
I did a lot of livepresentations after that.
I had a costume that I had towear, and I had a big shawl
(21:29):
thing like this that you had towear to look like the...
RR (21:33):
You're pretty young at this time, right?
Miss Muriel (21:36):
Yeah, I was 17.
Yes.
And they taught me how to holda cigar.
RR (21:46):
A 17-year-old young girl learning how to hold a cigar.
I
Miss Muriel (21:51):
had to light the cigar.
I had to smoke the cigar.
Gag me with a spoon.
No, I mean, if I was maybe usedto smoking other cigars or
smoking at all, that would havebeen okay.
Not so.
But whatever they asked me todo with these, I just did what
they told me to do.
RR (22:12):
You were also part of a dance troupe in Kansas City,
correct?
Miss Muriel (22:16):
Yes.
But that was a few years laterwhen I was in my early 20s.
I was in a dance company.
RR (22:22):
And the dance company was a precursor for you doing
musicals?
Miss Muriel (22:28):
Oh, yeah.
I did a lot of stuff.
I did summer theater musicals.
And the dance company itselfwas, we danced all around the
area.
But we also had someconnections.
This was in Kansas City,Missouri.
This was back in the Midwest.
And that city at the timewasn't as big.
as it is now, which is six oreight million people.
(22:49):
That's big.
But they were involved with alot of stuff.
They had a good summer theaterstock, outdoor theater thing.
It was really cool.
So I got to do a lot of thesethings, these types of
presentations.
But the dance company...
And one of the men, one of thechoreographers was from New York
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and the other was from KansasCity, the area.
So they got together.
They both had degrees in danceand all that.
And their names were PaulChambers and Cliff Kerwin.
And they were about the sameage, probably in their 30s.
And they took us to all thesedifferent places, and we did
production numbers.
(23:30):
And finally, when they got to acertain point, they wanted to
do something really big, somesort of a really big production
to really make an impact, andthen with publicity.
And sure enough, they decidedthat we would go to New York.
And we would be in the World'sFair and represent Missouri in
(23:54):
music and dance.
And that is precisely what wedid.
RR (23:58):
Ms.
Muriel, I appreciate you beingin today.
And that's Ms.
Muriel's Senator Cigar.
It is Meredith DeWitt Griffin.
And again, thanks for beinghere.
We'll be back in just a moment.
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Well, we have a number ofevents forthcoming in and around
the Lincoln City community,including a senior fair.
Oh, good.
Yes.
Senior fair going to be up atChinook Winds Casino Resort
October 7th.
And if you'd like to have abooth in that context, son,
Phil, Phil Robertson, he's incharge of Senior Fair 2020.
(25:31):
Five, 26, 27 years.
It's been going on for a longtime.
It has indeed, yeah.
And I feel like a bit of asenior.
Stuff-A-Bus, a fun event.
And this Stuff-A-Bus has raisedliterally thousands of dollars
in cash and merchandise to makecertain our students go back to
(25:52):
school with the items that theyreally need.
So Stuff-A-Bus will beSeptember 5th up at Lincoln City
Outlets.
Donations can be dropped off atLincoln City Outlets office and
cash.
Money, if you don't know whatto buy, Cash works, drop it off
at Lincoln City Gifts, and theyare putting together bags of
(26:14):
back-to-school items.
Son Paul (26:15):
Yeah, again, like last year, I know they had just tons
of bags that they collectivelyput together with the helps of
donations, but a lot on theirbacks as well.
So, yeah, come down there andgive them some donation and
support our returning students,which it's only July, but that's
RR (26:32):
going to be right around the corner.
It's going to be right aroundthe corner.
September 5 will be Stuff ofUs.
September 10, 11, and 12 isCelebration of Honor up at
Chinook Wins.
And in August, it's Surf City.
Surf's up, baby.
August 23, 24, Surf Cityweekend at Chinook Wins Casino.
Your side of the table.
What do we got coming up, Mr.
(26:53):
Paul?
Son Paul (26:54):
Yeah, so just again, now on the 26th, the sand art
competition at Rhodes End.
So you want to come down tothat.
You can sign up for your team.
20 bucks gives you a 20 by 20square to do your own sand art.
And, you know, there's a $100prize, there's a $200 prize, and
there's that $500 grand prizefrom Chinook Wind.
So not just fun, but you get topotentially win some stuff.
And get some good exercise atthe same time.
(27:16):
Yeah, it's going to bewonderful down there, right, at
Rhodes Inn State Park.
And then also coming up inAugust, since we're kind of
forecasting out a little bit,we've got Kayaking in the
Daylight.
Yeah, so 10 o'clock startthere, Saturday, August 23rd.
That'll be...
At a night park.
Okay.
Yep.
And you can...
Register online, and then ifyou don't have your own gear,
(27:37):
we've got a partnership withSafari Town, and you can rent
from them and get a freedrop-off because they're going
to be helping us host.
RR (27:44):
Is there a limited number of people that can participate?
Son Paul (27:47):
Yeah, I think it's 20, 25 for the daylight, and then
the evening one, which we'redoing on September 6th, we're
doing a kayak in the moonlight.
That one, I think, yeah, it'slike 15 folks or so.
You probably
RR (27:59):
don't want to get too far up the river at night,
Son Paul (28:01):
right?
Well, we just want to keep thesize down, yeah.
We have good visibility whenyou bring in light and you've
got your stuff and the moon'sout and everything else.
But, yeah, it was a fun eventwe did last year, kayaking under
the harvest moon, September 6,2025.
For these and all those eventsassociated with Cascade Head
Biosphere Collaborative, just goto cascadehead.org.
RR (28:23):
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