November 6, 2025 • 30 mins
Episode Highlights:
New leadership has arrived in Lincoln City, marking a fresh chapter for local governance. Samaritan Health Services is taking a major step forward with the launch of a new inpatient substance abuse treatment program aimed at supporting recovery and community health. Meanwhile, the Siletz Tribe is demonstrating powerful leadership of its own—donating $80,000 to help local families just as SNAP benefits face new restrictions.
- Daniel Hunter, City Manager Pro Tem
- Dr. Lesley Ogden, Samaritan Residential Treatment & Recovery Services
- Mike Holden, Siletz Tribal Charitable Contribution Fund
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Jana (00:06):
Welcome to the Double R Show, the podcast that features
everything about North LincolnCounty.
The Double R Show, directed andproduced by Paul Robertson and
hosted by the voice of LincolnCity, Roger Robertson.
RR (00:30):
Welcome to the Double R Show.
Double R here, and today we'regonna have an opportunity to
talk with new leadership, newleadership at City Hall, the
leadership at Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital, and of course,
what's happening with theConfederated Tribes and Silence
Indians Charitable Trust Fund.
All on leadership, right, Paul?
Son Paul (00:48):
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RR (02:16):
The interim city manager for the city of Lincoln City is
Daniel Hunter.
We want to welcome you to theFair City.
Thank you very much.
It's nice to be here.
Daniel Hunter (02:25):
Who is Daniel Hunter?
Well, Daniel Hunter is a nativeof Oregon.
I have lived in several otherstates, but uh something
continues to keep me coming backto Oregon.
Uh I I lived in Montana forabout a quarter of my life.
Uh other than that, I've livedin Spokane, Washington, while I
was in the Air Force for fouryears, and uh I tried Florida
(02:47):
for six months until July rolledaround and then uh decided 100
degrees in 100% humidity was notfor me.
Just was not what you werecomfortable with.
Yeah, no, I'm more of atemperate climate person, so uh
came back to Oregon.
That was after the Air Force,so uh after that I went to
Linfield College, got mybachelor's in political science.
(03:07):
Uh following that, moved backto Montana for a while.
I have two children in Montana,they're both adults now.
Move back there to be closer tothem, and while I was there
working for Montana Departmentof Transportation, got my
master's degree in publicadministration, and then uh
after looking for a localgovernment job in Montana and
not getting anywhere, uh Idecided to throw my hat in the
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ring for a position in Oregon.
I actually got hired by thecity of the Dallas that brought
me back to Oregon, and uh I hadbeen there for uh 10 years prior
to uh coming to Lincoln Cityand worked in various roles are
economic development.
I was the administrativefellow, did work on projects for
the city manager, uh then gothired as the uh human resources
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director who did that for eightyears.
And about six months aftertaking that position, I was also
handed risk management for uhthe city of Adell, so I uh wore
multiple hats, which is commonin smaller communities.
RR (04:03):
So you've had an opportunity to chase down most all career
paths within the citygovernment.
Daniel Hunter (04:09):
I have worked with professionals in every
aspect of the local government.
I've I've done several of themmyself.
Uh unless I have a profoundknowledge uh in that particular
uh career field, I always deferto the professionals who have
the most experience.
So I will be leaning ondepartment heads here for their
(04:29):
breadth of knowledge rather thanrelying on my uh minuscule
amount.
RR (04:35):
Uh you've all only been here a short period of time, but uh
you've uh probably had enoughtime to begin to judge the staff
that you have working for andwith you.
Daniel Hunter (04:45):
Yes, I have, and I would say uh every one of
them, at least the departmentheads uh that I've interacted
with, are absolutelyexceptional.
This community should be veryproud of uh city operations and
the department heads that are incharge of various departments
within city government here.
They're professionals that doan outstanding job, and they're
all very bright and capable ofdoing their jobs exceptionally
(05:07):
well.
RR (05:08):
As you look around, look at uh what needs to be done or what
has been done, what's what'sgoing to be on the main plate
for Daniel Hunter?
Daniel Hunter (05:17):
Well, I think that the big one that sticks out
is uh council priority, andthat is uh workforce housing and
attainable housing, not onlyfor uh city staff that they can
afford to live in the placewhere they work, but that also
goes for the people in thiscommunity who by and large
support uh the tourist industryuh in Lincoln City, and uh them
(05:38):
being able to afford to live inthe same community.
And but that I believe is onthe top of city council's uh
desire to address.
RR (05:47):
And uh bringing to the table your background, how do you
address that?
Daniel Hunter (05:54):
So my experience from the city of the Dalles, uh
both the administrative fellowposition and the project
coordinator position, I held uhseparate roles within urban
renewal.
And uh in that capacity, uh alot of that was on property
development for uh in in thatcase, it was on property
development for commercialactivities, but here those can
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be leveraged for uh residentialunits.
I know that uh staff is alreadyworking on and has projects in
and works uh within urbanrenewal to facilitate
development of residentialunits.
And then there's also some workgoing on with Habitat for
Humanity for low-income housing.
So, you know, we want toprovide the breadth of housing
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needs.
Uh, I think that the primaryfocus for us is really going to
be on workforce housing.
So that's generally going to beuh housing that uh the rent is
affordable for those at 80% ofthe county median income and up,
and that's really the thetarget that we'll be shooting
for.
RR (06:52):
What are you gonna do to help make the city not a
stumbling block, but a a partnerwith uh housing developments?
Daniel Hunter (07:01):
Yeah, so I think in that piece, that's really
where urban renewal agencies canshow their worth.
And I know this is the case nomatter where you go, but a lot
of developers will say that SDCfees or the cost of entry into
the development for a newprimarily a uh multifamily
development, the SDCs are goingto be high.
(07:24):
And urban renewal can pay thoseor pay portion of those to then
offset the cost for thedeveloper.
That then incentivizes thedevelopment of the housing
units.
Uh, and once those are done, uhthe the city and whoever the
contractor is to manage that uhhousing development, then agree
on what the final rents aregoing to be, whether or not
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they're all going to beaffordable or attainable or
workforce housing, and if notall of them, then what
percentage?
And that's how we come to anagreement when uh a public
agency, whether that's urbanrill or city or a county, is
involved in it.
If there's funds going in fromthe public side into the private
development, then uh the publicgets a voice in determining
what the outcome of that's goingto be, and you have the
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leverage to say, you know, we'llpay this part of the cost of
the development.
But when the project'scompletely done, the development
is going to provide housing forthis group of people that are
in need of housing in thiscommunity.
RR (08:21):
Finally, you've gone through now your first city council
meeting.
Anything that uh happened atthat first city council meeting
that surprised you or uh madeyou a little intimidated?
Daniel Hunter (08:34):
I I wouldn't say intimidated, and I I think there
was uh you know spirited debateuh by some counselors, and
that's not unusual.
Uh that happens from onecommunity to another.
Uh I think the the difficultyis coming into Lincoln City when
there's been turnover at thecity manager position.
(08:56):
Uh staff has felt kind of alack of direction from the top.
It just adds to a discordantfeeling amongst staff on what
direction uh the organization'sgoing.
Uh and so it's my job coming into explain to them look, it's
these things happen uheverywhere.
It's not gonna affect myapproach to working with you.
(09:18):
We've got our jobs to do.
Let's go out and be productivefor the people in this community
and let the city council andthe mayor deal with what they
need to deal with.
Uh that's not our focus.
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RR (09:47):
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RR (10:14):
Dr.
Leslie Ogden, Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital, Pacific
Communities Hospital joins usagain this week.
Uh last week had theopportunity to talk about
multi-care, the joining ofhands, if you will, uh, with
this organization for thebenefit of Samaritan, and it
will be a big benefit, correct?
Dr Ogden (10:32):
Correct.
Absolutely.
Um it's we feel like it willbenefit both organizations
because uh they have so muchexpertise in in things like
population health and uh thingslike uh they have a line of
urgent cares that are justexquisite.
But we have expertise that theytoo want to uh understand,
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things like how to run criticalaccess hospitals, and we
certainly have expertise there,as well as health plans, and
they do not have a health plan.
So this is really a really nicepartnership between the two
organizations, and we are allvery excited about growing,
about bringing better resources,about being better for our
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communities.
And both organizations are verymuch community-oriented, and
that's the way we want to stay.
RR (11:24):
Talking about being better for your community, one of the
other uh things we wanted totalk about today is something
that happened last week, andthat's the STARS program.
Dr Ogden (11:34):
Right.
RR (11:35):
Which is what?
Dr Ogden (11:36):
It is Samaritan Treatment and Recovery Services,
and that is a 16-bed inpatientas well as outpatient substance
use disorder treatment center,and it's the first of its kind
on the Oregon coast, and mostdefinitely the first in Lincoln
County, right?
Because uh before that we weregoing to Corvallis or to one of
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the urban areas or way far awayin some cases.
We've had some of our uh localfolks seeking care as far away
as Hermiston.
Uh so we are super excited thatwe now have that continuum of
care, right?
That inpatient treatment.
If someone needs it, we've gotit now for them.
RR (12:23):
So will there also be support for the family uh
backing up that individualthat's in the program?
Dr Ogden (12:29):
Right, right.
It's a it's a lot of wraparoundservices when you think about
it.
So a patient may come to us ina variety of ways.
They might be referred out ofan emergency department, they
might come out of the powerhousedetox facility that's out on
Highway 18.
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They may work through theirprimary care provider and come
to us directly from their home,even.
So all of these things canhappen, but especially if
there's no bed availableinitially, there's only 16 of
these beds, we might have awaiting period.
So we might support themthrough outpatient programs
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until we can get them to aninpatient program.
And likewise, once they're donewith the inpatient program, we
might have to continue tosupport them in an outpatient
program.
We also wrap around serviceslike mental health and
behavioral health supportbecause all of this goes hand in
hand.
And then we'll want to workwith their families and
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everything else to make surethat they're in the right
setting for success when theycomplete treatment.
So an awful lot has to go intoit.
Uh we have different clinicsthat we'll start that are
separate from this formedication-assisted treatment.
So many different things thatwe're doing at the exact same
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time.
And everything from peersupport to counseling to uh all
kinds of things.
And yeah, it all has to worktogether in order to make sure
that the patients haveeverything they need to succeed.
RR (14:06):
Now, Senator uh Anderson was uh speaking in front of the
Chamber of Commerce, and he didmake mention that uh the state
kicked in, what, four milliondollars towards the building of
this program?
Dr Ogden (14:17):
Right, right.
I believe 4.2 or 4.3 million intotal, absolutely, in two
separate tranches from twodifferent places within the
state.
But both Senator Anderson andRepresentative Gomberg were key
in making sure that we had themoney as the cost kept rising as
we were building, they madesure that we had the money and
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the support from the state tocontinue what we were doing.
RR (14:45):
Substance abuse is really a problem in the county, is it
not?
Dr Ogden (14:50):
It absolutely is bigger than anyone knows.
RR (14:53):
Bigger than what you anticipated.
Dr Ogden (14:56):
Yeah, I think so.
Because if you if you thinkabout it as an individual, think
about in your life how manypeople you know or are close to
who at one time in their life oranother have struggled with
substance abuse.
And I bet you that every singleperson listening can name a
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person who could probably at onetime or another benefit from
some of this type of treatment.
So it is pervasive in ourlives.
It is just really here.
And as different drugs of abusecome out, one of the latest is
fentanyl that's you know easy toget in tablet form, hugely
addictive and and frankly veryscary as far as its ability to
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kill somebody, even with asingle tablet.
So when you have things likethat that are so easily
available, our young people justdon't understand how deadly
these things can be.
And even if they don't killyou, how addictive they can be.
And so we we do, we have a bigproblem in our in our county, in
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our area, and uh this will helpus with those types of drugs,
with alcohol, with any drugs ofabuse, have a a way to deal with
them no matter what isnecessary for a patient on their
uh road to recovery.
RR (16:20):
To me, it appears that the weight of the world has been
lifted from your shoulders, Dr.
Ogden.
Am I mistaken?
Dr Ogden (16:29):
I certainly love to know that we have resources
right here, because that's thecatch, right?
It's one thing to send somebodyaway and and be unsure about
what kind of treatment they get,but to know that we have
treatment pathways and treatmentplans and ways to guarantee
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that people will get thetreatment they need now and for
a long, long time, that is abeautiful feeling.
RR (16:57):
Now it's one thing to have the facility, the building, but
the manning to that facility, uhall of the employees that that
you had to obviously go out andhire, correct?
Dr Ogden (17:08):
Absolutely.
Everybody from peer supportservices to counselors to
actually people working in thekitchen and people to clean the
place.
Absolutely all kinds.
RR (17:19):
Now everybody needs to go through a referral by a
physician.
Dr Ogden (17:25):
No, typically we have a variety of ways that that
people can even call and findout about the services right
there.
The important thing is uh wehave an intake process and
people do have to meet criteria,meaning we have to make sure
that the services they need wecan provide and that that level
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of care, that they're not gonnaneed something a lot more
intensive, like an ICU setting,or a lot less intensive, because
some people may not need thatlevel of service.
So we we have a very distinctintake process, but people can
come from a variety of ways toactually get to us.
RR (18:05):
Dr.
Ogden, again, congratulations.
I mean, it's been a couple ofmonumental weeks for the
Samaritan Northling Hospital andPacific Humanities Hospital.
Dr Ogden (18:16):
You got it, you got it.
We have a fantastic affiliationwith multicare, and then we
have the STARS program openingup, and uh many, many more great
things to come, we hope.
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With us next is Mike Holden.
Mike is uh involved with theConfederated Tribes Siletz
Indians, the charitable trustfund.
And you guys have really movedthe dial, if you will, in trying
to provide food for families.
Mike Holden (19:13):
Well, you know, a week ago, this last Saturday,
was looking at some of thenumbers.
If SNAP goes away, that's over750,000 Oregonians are impacted.
And we got 23,000 federalworkers fertile, terminated.
I probably don't know theirstatus either.
And one food bank that I talkedto, they were already at 40%
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over 2025, over 24.
Wow.
So the need just there.
So we had some excess revenuethat we had not spent this
calendar year.
And we met and decided that tobetter use of the money is to
get some more money to the foodbanks so they can fill their
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needs.
So we went four thousand foreach of the uh twenty-five food
banks, but five declined ordidn't didn't respond.
So twenty will be getting fourthousand each.
So we just uh in a matter offew minutes spend eighty
thousand dollars.
RR (20:17):
Now this is money that uh is gonna be given away from the
tribe comes from where?
Mike Holden (20:24):
It comes from a percentage of gaming uh by the
tribal state gaming compact, thegovernment-to-government
agreement between the state ofOregon and Confederated
of Siletz Indians, it dictatesbasically everything about
gaming.
But the one thing is that acertain percentage must go into
a charitable contribution fund.
And then that must bedistributed.
(20:45):
In this case, uh there's elevencounties, and only eleven
counties, unless you're uhAmerican Indian somewhere else
in the United States, then it'salso you can get the funds.
But otherwise it's just withinthose eleven counties.
RR (20:58):
So And the money is distributed when, Mike?
Mike Holden (21:01):
Uh next distribution is uh Friday,
actually.
And we'll have uh so there'llbe some of those people that are
getting the extra 4,000 bethere Friday.
So they will get handed thechecks, the rest will be mailed.
RR (21:15):
They must have been just blown away when they get a phone
call.
How would you like another$4,000 to buy food for families?
Mike Holden (21:22):
Yeah, I th I think they probably were.
Uh we uh I think well, I don'tknow.
I wasn't sure after we met howexciting the uh tribe was gonna
be, or the council is gonna beabout uh spending the money.
And I was I went through tribalcouncil with no problem at all.
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I was gonna if I can find it, Iwas gonna take a couple of
excerpts out of the uh oh, thereit is, right in front of me
where it says today.
Looking stuff up with a phone.
The letter that Jasmine sentout outlines the reason why
we're doing it.
And uh next to the lastparagraph is to help ease the
sudden burden the STCCF AdvisoryBoard and a Celeste Tribal
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Council have approved a one-timeemergency charitable
distribution of 4,000 to yourorganization.
We hope this assistance helpsyou maintain your vital
operations and continueproviding food security for
those who are most affectedduring this difficult time.
We extend our heartfeltgratitude for your unwavering
commitment to serving yourcommunities with dignity and
care.
Your work exemplifies thespirit and compassion generosity
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that we value deeply within thetribe.
Very good.
And she sent that to me for adraft for my review and make any
corrections.
Oh, I agree.
You're going to.
I read it and I've literallyread thousands of reports and
thousands of requests for funds.
And almost always I can sendsome something back.
Not this one.
RR (22:51):
Okay, now the the money that uh is going to be given out uh
again it comes from the tribe,but it is a percentage of the
gaming revenues not from thecurrent year.
Mike Holden (23:03):
Each year it continues, but uh by the time
the books are counted, the moneywe will spend in 2026 will be
2024.
Because that's is there's quitea lag time because what you can
imagine with the enterprise,it's just you've got to separate
gaming out from all the othervenues there.
And by the time you get throughwith everything good and uh
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coordinated there and all themoney shift around, it takes
about two years.
RR (23:31):
Okay, so how does one or an organization, or I assume it's
uh all nonprofits?
Mike Holden (23:36):
Not necessarily.
RR (23:37):
Not necessarily.
How does one apply?
Mike Holden (23:40):
Well, you go online and fill out the application.
Oh, that's simple.
You can go to ctsi.nsn.us andforward slash stcf, and that
should get you the application.
Okay.
And how often do you do this?
Four times a year.
Wow.
We the next uh the deadline forthe next distribution is
(24:02):
December 1st.
RR (24:03):
So if I apply and if I wanted you to deny it.
But am I done then?
Can I come back at another timefor certainly.
Okay.
Mike Holden (24:14):
Well, just say no again, but that's okay.
No, you can come back.
It's we have uh a lot of themthat are repeats, but if you
look at our annual report,you'll see where the bulk of the
money goes, and it's chartedout.
You see the percentages.
Food?
Uh actually uh education isvery high.
(24:34):
Education is uh uh the the funddoes support the Siletz school
for one thing.
Would it would make a hugedifference?
Yeah, otherwise it wouldn'texist.
RR (24:44):
Okay.
So again, Friday night uhopportunity, and uh that that'll
take place up at Shunakwin's?
Mike Holden (24:50):
No, it'll take place at the hotel.
At the hotel, Chinook WindsCasino Resort Hotel.
Yep, there's a conflict withthe casino itself.
RR (24:58):
Very good.
I enjoy going to that, eventhough uh, you know, I uh don't
have an organization that isgoing to be receiving a check.
Hearing the different projectsthat people are involved in.
It's amazing.
Mike Holden (25:12):
To me, it's you think you know a little bit
about what's going on, and youread the applications, you think
you know a little more.
You don't know squat until yougo to these these uh
distributions and hear thesepeople and see how much
volunteer time in Oregon isspent within these communities.
It's absolutely amazing.
And uh you've been there, yousay listen to these stories, and
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there's a couple times youalmost want to choke out.
Some of those sayings.
LCCC (25:39):
Woven Legacies is a special sale of killams, rugs,
bags, shoes, jewelry, and homedecor made by artesians in
Turkey.
The sale of these items at theLincoln City Cultural Center
will support the center and alsothe ongoing care of Julie
Reynolds Oterman.
All treasures of Woven Legacieswere imported by Julie and her
late husband, Senare Oterman.
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View the entire display todayat the Lincoln City Cultural
Center and own a treasuredestined to become a family
heirloom.
RR (26:11):
Well, thanks again to the new interim city manager Daniel
Hunter, to Mike Holden from theCharitable Trust Fund of the
Confederated Tribes of SiletzIndians, and Dr.
Leslie Ogden from Samaritin,North Lincoln and Pacific
Communities Hospital for beingon the program.
Uh, November 13th, it is agrand celebration day as we have
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an awards banquet.
The Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce will have their awards
banquet and be presenting awardsto the new business of the
year, the business of the year,excellence in customer service,
beautification award, andcommunity impact award.
So that's going to be a fundinner.
And uh go to the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce for more
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information.
And your side of the table, uh,you're done uh uh escorting
kids up to Night Park?
Son Paul (27:01):
Yeah, we've just finished that, wrapped that up.
Uh Secret Life of Salmon.
I think we had 11 classroomswith that program this year, and
uh earlier in the year we hadthe first and second graders and
uh fifth and sixth graders.
So the first fullimplementation of our now three
modules of educational uhcontent, which are videos which
anybody can value and and andenjoy, all on our website, uh
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cascadehead.org on the educationpage, but then those field
experiences too, which uh reallyculminate the uh the activities
uh for them.
So it's not just for thechildren.
No, in fact, uh was speakingwith a seventh and eighth grade
teacher, uh, and I guess I Ishould say it's just not
specifically young children,right?
Uh, because he was using thosesame videos uh for you know his
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middle school students.
Wonderful.
Yeah, so that was uh prettyexciting to hear and uh some
good feedback.
And yeah, just wrap that up.
Uh other schools can downloadthat as well.
Oh, anybody can, yeah.
Anybody can use it.
Uh there's curriculum online,uh, again, cascadehead.org slash
education.
And uh you can watch them alland enjoy that and and uh learn
a lot about salmon that youprobably didn't know about, a
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lot about watersheds and andother species.
RR (28:10):
So especially with the number of children that are
homeschooled, this is a uh grandprogram that is available.
Absolutely, yeah.
Lincoln County Public Health ishosting flu uh vaccination
clinics, so no appointmentnecessary.
Please call public health at265-4112.
Uh, meeting-wise for the cityof Lincoln City, November 12th,
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uh day that we remember well.
Son Paul (28:35):
We have that always on our calendar.
Yes, thanks, mom.
RR (28:38):
Happy birthday to Mrs.
Robertson on November 12th.
But it's also Public Arts uhCommittee meeting day at 4
o'clock.
On Thursday, the 13th, we haveengaged Lincoln City Ad hoc
committee.
On Wednesday, November the19th, the Parks and Recreation
Board gets together.
And if you'd like to uh be oneof the many people that sponsor
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American Flags up and downHighway 101, it's only $40 a
year, and all of that money goesto uh the Qatas Club to pay for
scholarships uh for students upat Taft High School, also for
youth sports, uh the Easter egghunt, the spooky spectacular,
the backpacks for kids.
It just goes on and on and on.
That's where the money stays inLincoln City to do good things
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for people.
Anything else your side of thetable?
We are clear from here.
Thanks.
And uh again, would uh remindyou, Angels Anonymous Festival
of the Trees, buy your ticketsup at the Lincoln City Chamber
of Commerce office.
That's coming up in December.
That'll do it to the dunes onthe Double R Show.
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RR (00:30):
Welcome to the Double R Show.
Double R here, and today we'regonna have an opportunity to
talk with new leadership, newleadership at City Hall, the
leadership at Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital, and of course,
what's happening with theConfederated Tribes and Silence
Indians Charitable Trust Fund.
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RR (02:16):
The interim city manager for the city of Lincoln City is
Daniel Hunter.
We want to welcome you to theFair City.
Thank you very much.
It's nice to be here.
Daniel Hunter (02:25):
Who is Daniel Hunter?
Well, Daniel Hunter is a nativeof Oregon.
I have lived in several otherstates, but uh something
continues to keep me coming backto Oregon.
Uh I I lived in Montana forabout a quarter of my life.
Uh other than that, I've livedin Spokane, Washington, while I
was in the Air Force for fouryears, and uh I tried Florida
(02:47):
for six months until July rolledaround and then uh decided 100
degrees in 100% humidity was notfor me.
Just was not what you werecomfortable with.
Yeah, no, I'm more of atemperate climate person, so uh
came back to Oregon.
That was after the Air Force,so uh after that I went to
Linfield College, got mybachelor's in political science.
(03:07):
Uh following that, moved backto Montana for a while.
I have two children in Montana,they're both adults now.
Move back there to be closer tothem, and while I was there
working for Montana Departmentof Transportation, got my
master's degree in publicadministration, and then uh
after looking for a localgovernment job in Montana and
not getting anywhere, uh Idecided to throw my hat in the
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ring for a position in Oregon.
I actually got hired by thecity of the Dallas that brought
me back to Oregon, and uh I hadbeen there for uh 10 years prior
to uh coming to Lincoln Cityand worked in various roles are
economic development.
I was the administrativefellow, did work on projects for
the city manager, uh then gothired as the uh human resources
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director who did that for eightyears.
And about six months aftertaking that position, I was also
handed risk management for uhthe city of Adell, so I uh wore
multiple hats, which is commonin smaller communities.
RR (04:03):
So you've had an opportunity to chase down most all career
paths within the citygovernment.
Daniel Hunter (04:09):
I have worked with professionals in every
aspect of the local government.
I've I've done several of themmyself.
Uh unless I have a profoundknowledge uh in that particular
uh career field, I always deferto the professionals who have
the most experience.
So I will be leaning ondepartment heads here for their
(04:29):
breadth of knowledge rather thanrelying on my uh minuscule
amount.
RR (04:35):
Uh you've all only been here a short period of time, but uh
you've uh probably had enoughtime to begin to judge the staff
that you have working for andwith you.
Daniel Hunter (04:45):
Yes, I have, and I would say uh every one of
them, at least the departmentheads uh that I've interacted
with, are absolutelyexceptional.
This community should be veryproud of uh city operations and
the department heads that are incharge of various departments
within city government here.
They're professionals that doan outstanding job, and they're
all very bright and capable ofdoing their jobs exceptionally
(05:07):
well.
RR (05:08):
As you look around, look at uh what needs to be done or what
has been done, what's what'sgoing to be on the main plate
for Daniel Hunter?
Daniel Hunter (05:17):
Well, I think that the big one that sticks out
is uh council priority, andthat is uh workforce housing and
attainable housing, not onlyfor uh city staff that they can
afford to live in the placewhere they work, but that also
goes for the people in thiscommunity who by and large
support uh the tourist industryuh in Lincoln City, and uh them
(05:38):
being able to afford to live inthe same community.
And but that I believe is onthe top of city council's uh
desire to address.
RR (05:47):
And uh bringing to the table your background, how do you
address that?
Daniel Hunter (05:54):
So my experience from the city of the Dalles, uh
both the administrative fellowposition and the project
coordinator position, I held uhseparate roles within urban
renewal.
And uh in that capacity, uh alot of that was on property
development for uh in in thatcase, it was on property
development for commercialactivities, but here those can
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be leveraged for uh residentialunits.
I know that uh staff is alreadyworking on and has projects in
and works uh within urbanrenewal to facilitate
development of residentialunits.
And then there's also some workgoing on with Habitat for
Humanity for low-income housing.
So, you know, we want toprovide the breadth of housing
(06:35):
needs.
Uh, I think that the primaryfocus for us is really going to
be on workforce housing.
So that's generally going to beuh housing that uh the rent is
affordable for those at 80% ofthe county median income and up,
and that's really the thetarget that we'll be shooting
for.
RR (06:52):
What are you gonna do to help make the city not a
stumbling block, but a a partnerwith uh housing developments?
Daniel Hunter (07:01):
Yeah, so I think in that piece, that's really
where urban renewal agencies canshow their worth.
And I know this is the case nomatter where you go, but a lot
of developers will say that SDCfees or the cost of entry into
the development for a newprimarily a uh multifamily
development, the SDCs are goingto be high.
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And urban renewal can pay thoseor pay portion of those to then
offset the cost for thedeveloper.
That then incentivizes thedevelopment of the housing
units.
Uh, and once those are done, uhthe the city and whoever the
contractor is to manage that uhhousing development, then agree
on what the final rents aregoing to be, whether or not
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they're all going to beaffordable or attainable or
workforce housing, and if notall of them, then what
percentage?
And that's how we come to anagreement when uh a public
agency, whether that's urbanrill or city or a county, is
involved in it.
If there's funds going in fromthe public side into the private
development, then uh the publicgets a voice in determining
what the outcome of that's goingto be, and you have the
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leverage to say, you know, we'llpay this part of the cost of
the development.
But when the project'scompletely done, the development
is going to provide housing forthis group of people that are
in need of housing in thiscommunity.
RR (08:21):
Finally, you've gone through now your first city council
meeting.
Anything that uh happened atthat first city council meeting
that surprised you or uh madeyou a little intimidated?
Daniel Hunter (08:34):
I I wouldn't say intimidated, and I I think there
was uh you know spirited debateuh by some counselors, and
that's not unusual.
Uh that happens from onecommunity to another.
Uh I think the the difficultyis coming into Lincoln City when
there's been turnover at thecity manager position.
(08:56):
Uh staff has felt kind of alack of direction from the top.
It just adds to a discordantfeeling amongst staff on what
direction uh the organization'sgoing.
Uh and so it's my job coming into explain to them look, it's
these things happen uheverywhere.
It's not gonna affect myapproach to working with you.
(09:18):
We've got our jobs to do.
Let's go out and be productivefor the people in this community
and let the city council andthe mayor deal with what they
need to deal with.
Uh that's not our focus.
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RR (10:14):
Dr.
Leslie Ogden, Samaritan NorthLincoln Hospital, Pacific
Communities Hospital joins usagain this week.
Uh last week had theopportunity to talk about
multi-care, the joining ofhands, if you will, uh, with
this organization for thebenefit of Samaritan, and it
will be a big benefit, correct?
Dr Ogden (10:32):
Correct.
Absolutely.
Um it's we feel like it willbenefit both organizations
because uh they have so muchexpertise in in things like
population health and uh thingslike uh they have a line of
urgent cares that are justexquisite.
But we have expertise that theytoo want to uh understand,
(10:54):
things like how to run criticalaccess hospitals, and we
certainly have expertise there,as well as health plans, and
they do not have a health plan.
So this is really a really nicepartnership between the two
organizations, and we are allvery excited about growing,
about bringing better resources,about being better for our
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communities.
And both organizations are verymuch community-oriented, and
that's the way we want to stay.
RR (11:24):
Talking about being better for your community, one of the
other uh things we wanted totalk about today is something
that happened last week, andthat's the STARS program.
Dr Ogden (11:34):
Right.
RR (11:35):
Which is what?
Dr Ogden (11:36):
It is Samaritan Treatment and Recovery Services,
and that is a 16-bed inpatientas well as outpatient substance
use disorder treatment center,and it's the first of its kind
on the Oregon coast, and mostdefinitely the first in Lincoln
County, right?
Because uh before that we weregoing to Corvallis or to one of
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the urban areas or way far awayin some cases.
We've had some of our uh localfolks seeking care as far away
as Hermiston.
Uh so we are super excited thatwe now have that continuum of
care, right?
That inpatient treatment.
If someone needs it, we've gotit now for them.
RR (12:23):
So will there also be support for the family uh
backing up that individualthat's in the program?
Dr Ogden (12:29):
Right, right.
It's a it's a lot of wraparoundservices when you think about
it.
So a patient may come to us ina variety of ways.
They might be referred out ofan emergency department, they
might come out of the powerhousedetox facility that's out on
Highway 18.
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They may work through theirprimary care provider and come
to us directly from their home,even.
So all of these things canhappen, but especially if
there's no bed availableinitially, there's only 16 of
these beds, we might have awaiting period.
So we might support themthrough outpatient programs
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until we can get them to aninpatient program.
And likewise, once they're donewith the inpatient program, we
might have to continue tosupport them in an outpatient
program.
We also wrap around serviceslike mental health and
behavioral health supportbecause all of this goes hand in
hand.
And then we'll want to workwith their families and
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everything else to make surethat they're in the right
setting for success when theycomplete treatment.
So an awful lot has to go intoit.
Uh we have different clinicsthat we'll start that are
separate from this formedication-assisted treatment.
So many different things thatwe're doing at the exact same
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time.
And everything from peersupport to counseling to uh all
kinds of things.
And yeah, it all has to worktogether in order to make sure
that the patients haveeverything they need to succeed.
RR (14:06):
Now, Senator uh Anderson was uh speaking in front of the
Chamber of Commerce, and he didmake mention that uh the state
kicked in, what, four milliondollars towards the building of
this program?
Dr Ogden (14:17):
Right, right.
I believe 4.2 or 4.3 million intotal, absolutely, in two
separate tranches from twodifferent places within the
state.
But both Senator Anderson andRepresentative Gomberg were key
in making sure that we had themoney as the cost kept rising as
we were building, they madesure that we had the money and
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the support from the state tocontinue what we were doing.
RR (14:45):
Substance abuse is really a problem in the county, is it
not?
Dr Ogden (14:50):
It absolutely is bigger than anyone knows.
RR (14:53):
Bigger than what you anticipated.
Dr Ogden (14:56):
Yeah, I think so.
Because if you if you thinkabout it as an individual, think
about in your life how manypeople you know or are close to
who at one time in their life oranother have struggled with
substance abuse.
And I bet you that every singleperson listening can name a
(15:18):
person who could probably at onetime or another benefit from
some of this type of treatment.
So it is pervasive in ourlives.
It is just really here.
And as different drugs of abusecome out, one of the latest is
fentanyl that's you know easy toget in tablet form, hugely
addictive and and frankly veryscary as far as its ability to
(15:44):
kill somebody, even with asingle tablet.
So when you have things likethat that are so easily
available, our young people justdon't understand how deadly
these things can be.
And even if they don't killyou, how addictive they can be.
And so we we do, we have a bigproblem in our in our county, in
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our area, and uh this will helpus with those types of drugs,
with alcohol, with any drugs ofabuse, have a a way to deal with
them no matter what isnecessary for a patient on their
uh road to recovery.
RR (16:20):
To me, it appears that the weight of the world has been
lifted from your shoulders, Dr.
Ogden.
Am I mistaken?
Dr Ogden (16:29):
I certainly love to know that we have resources
right here, because that's thecatch, right?
It's one thing to send somebodyaway and and be unsure about
what kind of treatment they get,but to know that we have
treatment pathways and treatmentplans and ways to guarantee
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that people will get thetreatment they need now and for
a long, long time, that is abeautiful feeling.
RR (16:57):
Now it's one thing to have the facility, the building, but
the manning to that facility, uhall of the employees that that
you had to obviously go out andhire, correct?
Dr Ogden (17:08):
Absolutely.
Everybody from peer supportservices to counselors to
actually people working in thekitchen and people to clean the
place.
Absolutely all kinds.
RR (17:19):
Now everybody needs to go through a referral by a
physician.
Dr Ogden (17:25):
No, typically we have a variety of ways that that
people can even call and findout about the services right
there.
The important thing is uh wehave an intake process and
people do have to meet criteria,meaning we have to make sure
that the services they need wecan provide and that that level
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of care, that they're not gonnaneed something a lot more
intensive, like an ICU setting,or a lot less intensive, because
some people may not need thatlevel of service.
So we we have a very distinctintake process, but people can
come from a variety of ways toactually get to us.
RR (18:05):
Dr.
Ogden, again, congratulations.
I mean, it's been a couple ofmonumental weeks for the
Samaritan Northling Hospital andPacific Humanities Hospital.
Dr Ogden (18:16):
You got it, you got it.
We have a fantastic affiliationwith multicare, and then we
have the STARS program openingup, and uh many, many more great
things to come, we hope.
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With us next is Mike Holden.
Mike is uh involved with theConfederated Tribes Siletz
Indians, the charitable trustfund.
And you guys have really movedthe dial, if you will, in trying
to provide food for families.
Mike Holden (19:13):
Well, you know, a week ago, this last Saturday,
was looking at some of thenumbers.
If SNAP goes away, that's over750,000 Oregonians are impacted.
And we got 23,000 federalworkers fertile, terminated.
I probably don't know theirstatus either.
And one food bank that I talkedto, they were already at 40%
(19:37):
over 2025, over 24.
Wow.
So the need just there.
So we had some excess revenuethat we had not spent this
calendar year.
And we met and decided that tobetter use of the money is to
get some more money to the foodbanks so they can fill their
(20:00):
needs.
So we went four thousand foreach of the uh twenty-five food
banks, but five declined ordidn't didn't respond.
So twenty will be getting fourthousand each.
So we just uh in a matter offew minutes spend eighty
thousand dollars.
RR (20:17):
Now this is money that uh is gonna be given away from the
tribe comes from where?
Mike Holden (20:24):
It comes from a percentage of gaming uh by the
tribal state gaming compact, thegovernment-to-government
agreement between the state ofOregon and Confederated
of Siletz Indians, it dictatesbasically everything about
gaming.
But the one thing is that acertain percentage must go into
a charitable contribution fund.
And then that must bedistributed.
(20:45):
In this case, uh there's elevencounties, and only eleven
counties, unless you're uhAmerican Indian somewhere else
in the United States, then it'salso you can get the funds.
But otherwise it's just withinthose eleven counties.
RR (20:58):
So And the money is distributed when, Mike?
Mike Holden (21:01):
Uh next distribution is uh Friday,
actually.
And we'll have uh so there'llbe some of those people that are
getting the extra 4,000 bethere Friday.
So they will get handed thechecks, the rest will be mailed.
RR (21:15):
They must have been just blown away when they get a phone
call.
How would you like another$4,000 to buy food for families?
Mike Holden (21:22):
Yeah, I th I think they probably were.
Uh we uh I think well, I don'tknow.
I wasn't sure after we met howexciting the uh tribe was gonna
be, or the council is gonna beabout uh spending the money.
And I was I went through tribalcouncil with no problem at all.
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I was gonna if I can find it, Iwas gonna take a couple of
excerpts out of the uh oh, thereit is, right in front of me
where it says today.
Looking stuff up with a phone.
The letter that Jasmine sentout outlines the reason why
we're doing it.
And uh next to the lastparagraph is to help ease the
sudden burden the STCCF AdvisoryBoard and a Celeste Tribal
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Council have approved a one-timeemergency charitable
distribution of 4,000 to yourorganization.
We hope this assistance helpsyou maintain your vital
operations and continueproviding food security for
those who are most affectedduring this difficult time.
We extend our heartfeltgratitude for your unwavering
commitment to serving yourcommunities with dignity and
care.
Your work exemplifies thespirit and compassion generosity
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that we value deeply within thetribe.
Very good.
And she sent that to me for adraft for my review and make any
corrections.
Oh, I agree.
You're going to.
I read it and I've literallyread thousands of reports and
thousands of requests for funds.
And almost always I can sendsome something back.
Not this one.
RR (22:51):
Okay, now the the money that uh is going to be given out uh
again it comes from the tribe,but it is a percentage of the
gaming revenues not from thecurrent year.
Mike Holden (23:03):
Each year it continues, but uh by the time
the books are counted, the moneywe will spend in 2026 will be
2024.
Because that's is there's quitea lag time because what you can
imagine with the enterprise,it's just you've got to separate
gaming out from all the othervenues there.
And by the time you get throughwith everything good and uh
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coordinated there and all themoney shift around, it takes
about two years.
RR (23:31):
Okay, so how does one or an organization, or I assume it's
uh all nonprofits?
Mike Holden (23:36):
Not necessarily.
RR (23:37):
Not necessarily.
How does one apply?
Mike Holden (23:40):
Well, you go online and fill out the application.
Oh, that's simple.
You can go to ctsi.nsn.us andforward slash stcf, and that
should get you the application.
Okay.
And how often do you do this?
Four times a year.
Wow.
We the next uh the deadline forthe next distribution is
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December 1st.
RR (24:03):
So if I apply and if I wanted you to deny it.
But am I done then?
Can I come back at another timefor certainly.
Okay.
Mike Holden (24:14):
Well, just say no again, but that's okay.
No, you can come back.
It's we have uh a lot of themthat are repeats, but if you
look at our annual report,you'll see where the bulk of the
money goes, and it's chartedout.
You see the percentages.
Food?
Uh actually uh education isvery high.
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Education is uh uh the the funddoes support the Siletz school
for one thing.
Would it would make a hugedifference?
Yeah, otherwise it wouldn'texist.
RR (24:44):
Okay.
So again, Friday night uhopportunity, and uh that that'll
take place up at Shunakwin's?
Mike Holden (24:50):
No, it'll take place at the hotel.
At the hotel, Chinook WindsCasino Resort Hotel.
Yep, there's a conflict withthe casino itself.
RR (24:58):
Very good.
I enjoy going to that, eventhough uh, you know, I uh don't
have an organization that isgoing to be receiving a check.
Hearing the different projectsthat people are involved in.
It's amazing.
Mike Holden (25:12):
To me, it's you think you know a little bit
about what's going on, and youread the applications, you think
you know a little more.
You don't know squat until yougo to these these uh
distributions and hear thesepeople and see how much
volunteer time in Oregon isspent within these communities.
It's absolutely amazing.
And uh you've been there, yousay listen to these stories, and
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there's a couple times youalmost want to choke out.
Some of those sayings.
LCCC (25:39):
Woven Legacies is a special sale of killams, rugs,
bags, shoes, jewelry, and homedecor made by artesians in
Turkey.
The sale of these items at theLincoln City Cultural Center
will support the center and alsothe ongoing care of Julie
Reynolds Oterman.
All treasures of Woven Legacieswere imported by Julie and her
late husband, Senare Oterman.
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View the entire display todayat the Lincoln City Cultural
Center and own a treasuredestined to become a family
heirloom.
RR (26:11):
Well, thanks again to the new interim city manager Daniel
Hunter, to Mike Holden from theCharitable Trust Fund of the
Confederated Tribes of SiletzIndians, and Dr.
Leslie Ogden from Samaritin,North Lincoln and Pacific
Communities Hospital for beingon the program.
Uh, November 13th, it is agrand celebration day as we have
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an awards banquet.
The Lincoln City Chamber ofCommerce will have their awards
banquet and be presenting awardsto the new business of the
year, the business of the year,excellence in customer service,
beautification award, andcommunity impact award.
So that's going to be a fundinner.
And uh go to the Lincoln CityChamber of Commerce for more
(26:54):
information.
And your side of the table, uh,you're done uh uh escorting
kids up to Night Park?
Son Paul (27:01):
Yeah, we've just finished that, wrapped that up.
Uh Secret Life of Salmon.
I think we had 11 classroomswith that program this year, and
uh earlier in the year we hadthe first and second graders and
uh fifth and sixth graders.
So the first fullimplementation of our now three
modules of educational uhcontent, which are videos which
anybody can value and and andenjoy, all on our website, uh
(27:24):
cascadehead.org on the educationpage, but then those field
experiences too, which uh reallyculminate the uh the activities
uh for them.
So it's not just for thechildren.
No, in fact, uh was speakingwith a seventh and eighth grade
teacher, uh, and I guess I Ishould say it's just not
specifically young children,right?
Uh, because he was using thosesame videos uh for you know his
(27:46):
middle school students.
Wonderful.
Yeah, so that was uh prettyexciting to hear and uh some
good feedback.
And yeah, just wrap that up.
Uh other schools can downloadthat as well.
Oh, anybody can, yeah.
Anybody can use it.
Uh there's curriculum online,uh, again, cascadehead.org slash
education.
And uh you can watch them alland enjoy that and and uh learn
a lot about salmon that youprobably didn't know about, a
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lot about watersheds and andother species.
RR (28:10):
So especially with the number of children that are
homeschooled, this is a uh grandprogram that is available.
Absolutely, yeah.
Lincoln County Public Health ishosting flu uh vaccination
clinics, so no appointmentnecessary.
Please call public health at265-4112.
Uh, meeting-wise for the cityof Lincoln City, November 12th,
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uh day that we remember well.
Son Paul (28:35):
We have that always on our calendar.
Yes, thanks, mom.
RR (28:38):
Happy birthday to Mrs.
Robertson on November 12th.
But it's also Public Arts uhCommittee meeting day at 4
o'clock.
On Thursday, the 13th, we haveengaged Lincoln City Ad hoc
committee.
On Wednesday, November the19th, the Parks and Recreation
Board gets together.
And if you'd like to uh be oneof the many people that sponsor
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American Flags up and downHighway 101, it's only $40 a
year, and all of that money goesto uh the Qatas Club to pay for
scholarships uh for students upat Taft High School, also for
youth sports, uh the Easter egghunt, the spooky spectacular,
the backpacks for kids.
It just goes on and on and on.
That's where the money stays inLincoln City to do good things
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for people.
Anything else your side of thetable?
We are clear from here.
Thanks.
And uh again, would uh remindyou, Angels Anonymous Festival
of the Trees, buy your ticketsup at the Lincoln City Chamber
of Commerce office.
That's coming up in December.
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