S4 E3: True Friends, Stowaways, and the Movies

On this week's episode, Chris recounts the time that he rode in the back of Micah's pickup truck in the freezing cold to help save him from a girl who had ill intentions?!?! Hear about stowaways who survived subzero temperatures and hid inside of a plane's landing gear as well as woman who made it all the way from the U.S to Paris, France undetected without a plane ticket?!?! See if Chris knows which desert is the largest in the world and which country invented ice cream! The Amazon River, Wendy's, and How to Train Your Dragon all on this hot episode of the Doughnut Box Podcast!

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
This week on the Dona Box Podcast, hear about how I rode in the back of Micah's pickup

(00:07):
truck in the freezing cold to help save him from a girl that was trying to make the moves
on Micah.
Then we're going to go into wild plain stowaways stories that got people arrested on the jail
report.
After that, we're going to quiz Chris on his general knowledge.
We're going to see just how well his fine arts, magnet school, high school education
is getting him this far in life at age 30.

(00:29):
We'll see, we'll see and hear about how I am frustrated at movies nowadays.
What's wrong with movies nowadays?
Find out on what fries my donuts.
And guess what?
We've got improv and more.
So you know what?
I think we got nothing to do besides run this intro.
What do you think, Christopher?
Let's take it away.
Hi, I'm Micah.
And I'm Chris.

(00:49):
And we've been friends for over 20 years.
Surprisingly, we haven't killed each other yet.
Years ago, we started our own variety show and it sucked.
Now that we're adults, we decided to give it another try.
And you know what it says like in the movie?
Life is like a box of donuts.
You never know which one's going to be the next one.
Wait a second.
It's chocolates.

(01:10):
Life is like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're going to get.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Well, let's start the show.
This is the Dona Box podcast.
Well, welcome back to the Dona Box podcast.
If you are a brand new listener, welcome.
If you're returning OG, welcome back as well.

(01:33):
Hey, if you are listening on Spotify or Apple Music or whatever you're listening on, go
check us out on YouTube because you can actually see our faces.
So go check us out.
Dona box.
That's donuts with GH.
I'm going to plug it at the beginning on YouTube.
And so you just type in Dona Box podcast and you'll see our faces and we're finally on
camera.

(01:53):
So how are you doing this week, buddy?
Man, it's great.
It's interesting going through that first episode where we were on camera.
I'll say this.
It was interesting having to go through that little bit of extra layer of things.
I think some lessons learned, some good things and we're going to continue to improve upon
it.
But dude, this show is about to be really, really, really fantastic in my personal opinion.

(02:17):
I think we have some really, really good content.
But man, I'm super stoked for our first segment and that's our old fashioned donut, which
is always a story from our past.
And Chris, what do we have today, man?
So we told this story on, I think it was episode six or maybe it was episode eight,
but we called it, I think, the truck.
And basically this was you guys have heard many of times about how we grew up in church,

(02:43):
grew up going to youth group, all that good stuff.
Well, if you also heard, Micah used to drive this old Azuzu pickup truck.
It was a shift stick truck.
It was not that great of a truck, not that great of a truck.
No, no, it wasn't.
And just a little backstory on that.
It was my first ever vehicle and it was a little bit of a source of pride because I'll

(03:04):
say this, it was a $600 truck.
No, it was 600 to 650.
Wow.
That used to be like the, oh yeah, I used to remember that number.
I don't remember the number.
It was 600 to $650, something like that, right?
And bought it from this lady and man, it was like Chris said, it was a manual, it was a
stick shift.
Man, it was not a very good truck.

(03:25):
Like that thing was incredibly slow.
It would stall out like crazy.
It didn't matter.
You know, a lot of the times people would be like, oh, you just don't know how to drive
a manual.
It's like, no, you can press the clutch, you can do everything you need to do.
Like I had, you know, because of course I was 16 at the time when I had this truck was
my first vehicle.
And so like what adults would get at it, they would be like, oh yeah, it really is kind of

(03:49):
messed up.
It's like, yeah, yeah it is.
And like what I mean by that is, so where we lived at in Georgia, I know I'm going kind
of on a rabbit trail about this truck, but where we lived at in Georgia was really hilly.
And Chris, I'm sure you remember riding with me, man, when it would be like you would always
be going downhill or you would go uphill and it would die on you, right?

(04:11):
Like it would die on you.
And anybody that's driven a manual, you can do something that's called popping the clutch,
which basically you, you know, put it into a certain gear and you literally release the
clutch and it will start the engine backup for you.
And so a lot of times that was kind of the trick of the trade while driving because it
died so much was trying to keep it at speed enough to be able to pop the clutch and get

(04:32):
it back started while driving.
So you're not at a red light trying to crank it.
It was a whole thing.
But anyways, yeah, the Azuzu pickup truck, the 650 Azuzu pickup truck.
Yeah, so now that we have the backstory set up all like it's, Mike and I have also talked
about how like we weren't really like, we thought we were ladies men, but like we were

(04:55):
just typical teenagers trying to shoot our shot with everyone.
And if girls were into me, I had no clue at the time because I was just like, I had no
idea.
But there was this one girl and Micah knew she was into him and I don't even know how
this came about, but she really, really, really liked you.

(05:16):
Like really liked you.
I can tell you how it came about.
I can tell you how it came about.
So it was because, and this is dumb and Chris is about to laugh really hard.
We used to play basketball in the church gym with her brother and she would like sit there
and watch us.
And apparently like she told me like she first she got my number and then after that
she started like flirting with me.
And then after that, I remember one of the texts was like, you so you so hot when you

(05:40):
play basketball or something.
And I was just like, Oh, that's what I knew.
Which by the way, why he's laughing is because we were terrible at basketball.
I mean, it was terrible.
What was funny was that we were just two white boys and not that it matters, but like she
was African-American.
So she was like, she sees some people play some basketball.

(06:02):
She was like, Oh yeah, that little white boy.
He cute when he play.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, and plus her brother was younger than us and everything.
And sometimes we'd play on a team of three and like her brother and somebody else would
play on a team of two and they'd still beat us.
So it was, it was like, it was, it was not very good.
But anyway, so she started talking.
That's when it really started with, she said, Oh yeah, you know, because of basketball.

(06:25):
That's how it got us.
So did you, what did you say when she said that, did you just kind of like entertain
it?
Cause you liked the attention?
Oh no, I let her on.
I let her on straight up.
I let her on straight up.
Like, I hate to say this was me at that point.
Right.
Again, like Chris said, I was very naive to the fact of anything going on.
So any lady that gave me attention, especially cause we were like, I wouldn't say sheltered,

(06:49):
but it was different in the environment that we came up in.
So like socially, I was a little different than, than most people.
So like, maybe I was good looking, but like the way I acted kept the ladies at bay.
If that makes sense, that kept them.
You were kind of a spaz.
Yeah, it was definitely a spaz.
I needed to calm down a lot.
And so I had, had a lot of that going on.

(07:11):
So anytime a lady was like, Oh yeah, like I'm into you even beyond that.
It's like, Oh yeah, okay.
I'm going to entertain it even if I don't think that you attractive or I'm into you
at all.
Like I'll just, I'll still, and so I, I'll be real.
That's what ended up happening.
So like, yeah, I did entertain it and whatnot.
We did talk for a little bit and whatnot.

(07:32):
So we were at youth this one particular time.
And she really, I don't know what happened, but I think she intentionally did this.
She parked her car at the Wendy's, which was just not even a quarter mile down the road.
Like it was quarter mile down the road takes two minutes, right?
And it was the end of youth group.

(07:53):
We're all hanging out and she asked Micah to like, Hey, can you take me to my car?
And just to give you a little backstory and we've talked about this, like it was really
enforced like, Hey, don't be alone with a girl.
Even if you're not going to do anything, she could accuse you and say that you did something.
And there was that happened to a guy in our church and he got kicked out of the church

(08:16):
because he allegedly did something with the pastor's granddaughter.
I don't think he did it.
He didn't do it at all.
I don't believe he did.
And if he did do it, I believe that they both were involved and then she just felt bad about
it.
And I, you know, don't know the full situation on that one at all.
But all I know is it really ruined that guy's life.

(08:37):
Like, I mean, it really was a bad deal.
It wasn't just he got kicked out of church.
Like, I mean, he was years later, he was like at work and like people were like, somebody
had come in who knew about the situation, like told his boss at the time.
It was just kind of, it was really bad.
And it's not one of those things of like, Oh, because I know people are like, Oh, you're
like, you're victim shank is like, bro, like I know this guy, I know he wouldn't have done

(08:58):
something like we and everyone's like, Oh, you never know.
But I'm like, this guy was telling the truth when he was like, nothing happened like this
and that, like he was telling the absolute truth.
And so it's, it's one of those things to where after that point, and I think everybody else
knew it, especially a lot of the adults and things like that, to the point where that's
what we were told is guys, it's like, don't be in a room alone with the girl.

(09:21):
And it was more than just like, Oh, you might be able to get people pregnant.
So I, no, it was like, listen, you could be like going to jail.
Like that was the whole talk was like, it's not just that, like you could go to jail and
be on like the offender registry and like have to register.
Like, I mean, they were like really hardcore about like, do not be alone with people.

(09:41):
And so it was really, really impaired.
And like how it started was how this church was, it was kind of up this hill and there
was kind of a gap in this fence and you can go through there, but it was all like wooded
and stuff.
And at first you wanted to walk up in like through there.
She wanted to walk with you.
You never told me this part of the story.
I thought she just wanted you to drive her to her car.

(10:02):
I didn't want to walk through the woods with it.
Boy, trying to get you to do.
That's what I'm saying.
So what ended up happening at that point was I was like, nah, because it was cold.
It was cold outside.
And I was like, nah, I'm not going to walk up there.
Like, if we go and do it, we go and drive.
And like, I was already kind of privy to was obviously she's like, let's, let's go up and

(10:24):
walk this way.
And of course, I know people are like, I don't know this place, but I'll tell you this much.
A was dark.
B, it's like this wooded area is fairly wooded and it's right next to the interstate.
And like, there was like a homeless dude camped out back there for like the longest time.
And like, there was some wooded stuff.
Like it could have been easy.
And we like, we both kind of picked up on her intentions.

(10:49):
And the words of the famous Dusty Rhodes, she was a Jezebel.
She was a dead old Jezebel was trying to get my good.
Yeah, you know how it is.
But yeah, so she, so she did that.
And then what, what did you say to her after you were like, okay, I'm not going to walk.
You were like, did you, did you offer to drive her?
I was, yeah, that's exactly what happened.

(11:12):
I was like, you know what, I'm not going to walk with you, but I'll drive with you.
But the intention was already like, I got to go talk to my boy Chris.
And it's like, it ain't going to be a, oh, I'm going to drive you and it's just going
to be you and me.
And it's going to be like, oh, I need to drop Chris off after this or like, he needs to
come with me or like something like that.
And like, we'll make it some sort of, well, in the truck, the truck was a single cab.

(11:33):
So there wasn't any back seats.
So there was like bench seats.
And then so you could technically, you could fit three, but with the stick shift, there
was no way to, and listen, I'll be, yeah, there's no way and I'll be real with you.
That's, that's my, that's my, you know, my best friend right there and everything like
that.
And the best gift is gone where I'm not trying to get close to it all.

(11:54):
So it's one of those things of like, I ain't having him sit right there at all.
So it's like, one of those things it's like, I'm sorry, bro, you're going to have to sit
in the back.
Well, no, you came up to me and you were like, okay, I'm going to take, and I'll use her
name because her name is not that famous.
But if that's okay, hey, I'm going to take charity to her car.
It's just right down the street.
And I was like, okay, cool.

(12:15):
And then you were like, I'm going to take charity to her car.
You kind of gave me like the, I don't know what you, like, you didn't, you didn't.
I didn't say anything, but I was like, Oh, like, I remember to go with him.
Okay.
I remember, I remember you were sitting on the couch like talking.
There was like a couch in our youth group and like, he was sitting on there like talking
to some folks and I was like, I'm taking her to her car at the Popeyes or not the Wendy's.

(12:39):
And, and you were just like, Oh, like, I think the first time you're like, okay, yeah, I
don't know what you said, but you kind of like be saved or something.
I was just like, no, bro, I'm taking her.
And so you, you hop to, and I remember, so we started going out to the parking lot and
that's when I kind of, we were like discussing, he's like, where am I going to sit?

(13:00):
And it's like, you're going to have to sit in the bed.
I guess my man.
And I was like, the best that I can do is it had like a little slidey glass window in
the back and like for a crappy truck as it was, the heat works because obviously like
the heat just coming from the motor, right?
So of course the heat works well.
I had that heat on full blast and I had it shooting back to him through this little gap

(13:20):
in the window.
It was only like a two minute drive, but I was sitting there like, oh man, it was cold.
It was cold.
It was really cold.
It was like, it's so cold.
But I was like, I'm doing this for my boy.
Like I got to do it to make sure he doesn't get taken advantage of by this Jezebel.
And I'm just, and she was upset that I was mad.
She was so mad.

(13:41):
We got in the truck and like before I opened the slidey glass window, she was like, why
is he here?
And I was like, oh, he's my friend.
And like we, I'm going to go like get some food with them after.
I don't remember what I said, but I said something along those lines of like, hey, he's my friend.
Like we're going to go do something afterwards.
And I don't remember what she said, but it was like an insinuation of like, I thought

(14:01):
it was just going to be us.
And it was like, nah, like it's all good.
Like we just, we just hanging out and like she was, she was really, really mad.
And further to know that it was a trap.
You remember her car was parked when we got to the Wendy's?
Uh-uh.
No, I don't remember where it was parked.
Oh, she parked her car in the back.

(14:23):
She parked her car in the back.
And right in the back of Wendy's was like the tree area where you would like walk through.
We remember, so like that was the whole thing.
And that's the reason she wanted to walk back because like her and her brother had like
walked to church through there, which is a really weird way to do it.
It was a setup.
But hold on.
Why didn't her brother, why didn't she be like, hey, could you tell me?

(14:44):
Take me and my brother or where her brother was nowhere to be seen.
I guess she was going to come back for her brother.
I don't know what she was going to do.
She was going to get the car.
She was going to drive back around and get her bro.
She was going to get the car.
She was going to get the car.
But she, it was a trap.
As Admiral Ackbar would say, it's a trap.
Yeah.

(15:05):
So that's crazy.
But see, I think back in that.
Yeah.
I think real quick, real quick.
I was like, did y'all talk?
I don't even remember to just talk long once you dropped her off or did you just drop her
off and then.
No, I was just like, I was just like, yeah, have a nice night.
Did you ever say anything to you else after that?
Like, no, I mean, or talk to you or anything.

(15:27):
No, that was kind of the end of things actually, because after that she really didn't.
She really didn't.
I think we made it, or at least I made it clear enough, I guess, in the actions that
it took to be like, I'm not really about that and I'm not really going to do that.
So yeah, I helped my boy out because she was probably trying to get him to do some stuff

(15:50):
that he didn't want to do.
She was, she wasn't as, as what was, what was homeboys named?
Did the Holy Ghost girl?
She was my Holy Ghost girl.
Oh yeah.
She was trying to do something else.
Well, that was a great story, but we're going to move on to our next segment, which is the
Jelly Donut, and that's our jail report.
What do you say private pile?

(16:11):
Sir, Jelly Donut, sir, a jelly donut.
Hey, Chris, we've got a great jail report today, and our jail report is about plain
stowaways that have been arrested.
A few of them, not quite arrested, they had met their unfortunate fate and met our maker.
So how do you sew away on a plane?

(16:32):
Well, typically it's got to be a pretty big plane first and foremost, because there's
not a lot of spaces on smaller planes in the landing gear compartment.
Typically it's in the landing gear compartment if you can get on there.
Now, some of these stories I'm about to tell you are a little different, but a lot of them
people will sneak on and then get up into the landing gear somehow.

(16:54):
So of course, it's got to be a pretty big plane for a full person to get up in there
because some of these smaller ones, that landing gear is really heavy and it's a big mechanism.
They'll just crush you pretty much if you try to go to a small one.
So all right, man, you ready to go into some of these?
Let's see what's up.
All right.
So the first stowaway that we have, this was a guy in Indonesia, a 21 year old guy.

(17:16):
He sneaked on to an Indonesian plane in Sumatra, hitting its landing gear, and he was only
on a one hour flight.
Now that doesn't sound like much, but that's still freezing temperatures for over an hour
and a lack of oxygen because it was 32,000 feet.
So it's a lack of oxygen and freezing temperatures.
So they were shocked when they found him alive because part of what the problem is, and I'll

(17:40):
kind of go into this and what you'll see in some of these stories is there's a lot that
goes on, right?
It's not just takeoff.
Takeoff is really a violent thing.
And so you're already having to hold on a lot.
Then you have to survive the landing gear coming up and coming into the compartment and not
you know, crushing you.
And then after that, you have to do the cold, make sure you don't freeze to death.

(18:01):
And then the lack of oxygen, most people pass out.
And so what ends up happening is when they start coming down and the landing gear comes
down, they're passed out or frozen or whatever.
And then all of a sudden it's whatever.
So it's, there's like a lot you have to endure.
And then even if you survive all that somehow, then you have to survive the landing and how
bumpy that is and not fall out at all.
Because you're still landing at like 200 miles an hour.

(18:23):
So you're not trying to fall out because you'll have problems.
So there's a lot to surviving one of these things.
But they were shocked to find him alive and basically the only reason when they asked him
why he did this, he claimed that he wanted to visit the capital, the capital city of
Jakarta, which is where they found him.

(18:43):
But he was inspired by other stowaway stories.
He wanted to see the city, but couldn't afford a ticket.
So he was a, I mean, he was charged with illegal transit, which the max sentence in the country
is five years, but they let him go after initial detainment.
So we're just like, would you stowaway or no?
Oh, heck no, man.
That sounds like a terrible experience.

(19:04):
That sounds awful.
That is something you can like tell people.
Yeah, I stowed away on an airplane one time.
Yeah, it's like, it's, that's pretty crazy.
Now for an hour, I could see it being done, but like luckily in some of these, in like
East Asia, there's really big planes that go really short distances.
But like here in the States, that's not a thing.

(19:24):
Typically if you're on a big plane, you're going a long way, which is some of these other
stories as well.
Like this very next one, the next one, you might have heard about this one.
This was a 15 year old boy from California who survived a five and a half hour flight
from San Jose, California to Maui while he was hiding in the will well of a Hawaiian
Airlines Boeing 767.

(19:45):
So a big plane.
So pretty much he just ran away from home, scaled the airport fence and got access to
the aircraft.
So he somehow survived and they had sub zero temperatures, the lack of oxygen, all that
stuff.
And basically when they found him, he was in Maui and he was dazed and confused, wandering
the tarmac.

(20:05):
So it was like, this boy is just out there wandering the tarmac.
And so when they started asking them questions, the team told them, yeah, apparently he passed
out for a good amount of the flight and he came to once coming back in and somehow despite
the freezing temperatures and lack of oxygen, he made it alive, came in.
Now he was charged and detained, but they did release him because he was 15.

(20:28):
So do you think that 15 or 16 year old Michael would have stowed away on an airplane or still
no?
Probably no, just because knowing like the chances of survival, a lot of these are like
miraculous stories.
Like most of these stories, I had to really dig to find some and there's still even some
of the people did not make it, but it's ones that's like, most of the people just don't

(20:50):
make it.
It's not a very high chance of getting it right.
In fact, like the next two and the reason I put the next two in here is because after
the first two, you might say, Hey, maybe I'll stow away to my next flight to Vegas and let's
not do that.
Okay.
So these two are both from Africa, one's from Ghana.

(21:10):
And it was on a British Airways flight in 2000.
There was actually two teenage boys and they were stowed away on a British Airlines flight
from Accra, Ghana over to London Heathrow and it took about seven hours.
So think about this.
They were there for seven hours and they hit in the will.
Well, only one of them survived though.
The other one was a Ghana.

(21:30):
I don't know how to respond to you right now.
Wow.
Sorry.
That's inappropriate.
That was great of you, but terrible of you at the same time.
So I'm not even going to go there.
So one of them survived, one of them did not.
The one that did survive was found unconscious upon arrival.

(21:53):
Like somehow was able to hold on and was just unconscious, but was in severe hyperthermia
and frostbite and was in ICU for quite a bit of time, almost didn't make it, but his
partner did not make it.
And so it's one of those things.
If you feel like you, you think you want to do that, that's probably what's going to happen
to you.
And then this next one is the typical manner of what ends up happening in 2019.

(22:19):
A stowaway hit in the landing gear of the Department of a Kenya Airways flight and it
was from Nairobi to London.
He managed to survive the flight in during temperatures and whatnot.
However, as the plane approached Heathrow, they're not sure what happened, but he ended
up falling from the plane and ended up landing in somebody's backyard garden.

(22:41):
So there was that.
And so after further investigation, it was revealed that he was actually a stowaway and
he was able to get on because he was a cleaner at the airport in which the plane left.
And so he was able to sneak onto the tarmac and get onto the plane.
So then all of that, like just thinking about like being in the back of that pickup truck

(23:03):
and then being in sub zero, like that doesn't even sound worth it to me.
Like that's, it just sounds like a miserable time.
But I mean, if you're like, if you are desperate, I mean, I'm desperate.
Yeah.
And you know, I did leave off a lot of other stories because, you know, some of these stowaway
stories are really sad because they're just trying to get away from certain situations
and things like that.

(23:23):
And so it makes it really sad.
A lot of these though that I that I looked up or like, Oh, I just didn't have a ticket.
Yeah.
Because I was going to say, like, it's one thing if you're trying to leave your like
leave the country because something bad is happening or you're trying to be a refugee
or whatever it is, but at the same time, it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's a little different, but this last one that I'm going to tell you about, it's

(23:46):
probably my favorite one of all, and this just happened just a few days ago, the 26th
of November, actually, there was a lady who snuck on a plane at JFK airport, New York.
It almost made it to Paris unnoticed with no ticket, no nothing.
So this lady didn't have a boarding pass somehow went through TSA security screening at JFK

(24:09):
bypass to identity verification stations and boarding status stations.
So like boarding the plane when you have to scan the ticket somehow made it pass that
and got onto the plane.
So the passengers and the crew were not alerted the stowway until almost towards the end of
the flight to Paris.
And granted, this is a seven and a half to eight hour flight.

(24:31):
So almost to the end of this flight is finally when they kind of hop to that maybe this lady
was a stowway.
She actually was going back and forth from bathroom to bathroom.
And so that's what she had done the entire flight was she had just kind of posted up
in the back bathroom and then she would kind of go over to the business class bathroom.
But after a while, they started noticing, okay, this lady is bouncing back and forth.

(24:53):
And so once they started questioning her, then they found out she didn't have a ticket.
And at that time she thought, hey, I'm almost to Paris, like it doesn't matter, right?
Like I pretty much accomplished with it.
Not the case.
The US said you're getting your behind back.
There was actually a whole debate this past week between Delta because the flight was
on Delta.
So she already got one free flight to Paris.

(25:15):
The US government's like, well, you got to fly her back for free.
And Delta's like, heck no, we're not flying her back for free, like especially because
now they got to give her a seat.
They're not just going to let her sit in the bathroom this time.
So they're like, no, no, no, we're not going to let her get back in here for free.
And so finally Delta flew her back, come to find out, they take her to court.
And this was yesterday, Thursday, they get her into court and come to find out when they

(25:39):
were trying to get her bail.
She had tried to do this at Miami airport a few months ago by arriving on a flight and
then immediately going to departures and trying to sneak onto a flight without a boarding
pass.
Now, luckily they caught her, but this was not the first time that she tried to do this.
But what's wild to me about this story, Chris, I got to hear your opinion on this.
How in the heck do you sneak past JFK, not just TSA, two identity screening stations

(26:05):
and the little gate like put the boarding thing on?
Like what they were saying, and a lot of the spokespeople are saying is, you know, it was
the Thanksgiving time of year.
And so like there was a lot of travel and there's a lot of, you know, room for confusion.
But this is a really huge thing.
I mean, she almost got the Paris unnoticed.
Yeah, I don't know how she did that again, probably a lot of distraction.

(26:27):
I could see like the ladies like doing this and that, like getting on the boarding, whatever,
like if everyone's kind of just trying to get people through, I can definitely see maybe
how she got through, but that's wild.
Is she going to get, are they going to, you think going to get money out of her or anything?
Yes.

(26:47):
So that's, that's the other part to this.
The U S government is starting a civil suit, Delta is also starting a civil suit against
her, but she's also getting charged with, what was the charge?
Sorry, there's, I wrote down the charge here.
She's being charged with being a stowaway on a vessel or aircraft without consent, which
also carries a 20 year sentence in prison potentially.

(27:08):
So just depending on how far they want to go, but I think a lot of it from what I've
read is going to be monetary, you know, they're just going to sue her, sue her a lot and make
sure she doesn't do it money.
What if she doesn't have any money?
What is she going to do?
They're not going to get any money.
Obviously she couldn't afford a plane ticket.
So there ain't no way they're going to get money out of her.
So what's the, yeah, I, I don't know.

(27:31):
That's something you have to ask.
I don't know who comes after you on that.
I wanted to say the IRS, but that's for if you don't do your taxes.
Like they got to send somebody out after you, I guess, but yeah.
Anyways, it's a pretty interesting ordeal.
So that's still ongoing, but I figured that one was the great one to ended off there.
Did you like my Ghana joke?

(27:52):
I did.
Was it a little insensitive, a tad, but that's okay.
But you set me up.
You shouldn't have told me that where they were from.
I shouldn't have set you up.
As soon as you said, oh, they stowed away and they were from Ghana and one of them died.
Oh man, set me up.
I can't help it, man.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm sorry for my insensitivity.

(28:13):
It's okay, man.
You know what?
This just shows how much of friends we are.
Sometimes we just alley-oop each other and we're not even trying.
We're not even trying.
Sorry, man.
You ready to move to this next segment?
Let's do it.
I don't know if you are ready, man.
It's testing your general knowledge here in the donut hole segment.
I'm telling you, this is just kind of a random array of questions that we have.

(28:37):
And typically things that you would have learned in school are kind of just kind of general
tidbits of knowledge.
You'll see what I'm talking about.
Let's see how much I remember.
Yeah, let's see what happens.
So your first question, you ready for your first question?
Your first question, what is the only animal in this list that is capable of true flight?
So true flight by definition here.

(28:59):
Is it A, a bat, B, a flying squirrel, C, a pigeon, or D, a penguin?
I would assume it's a flying squirrel.
It's actually a bat.
So flying squirrels.
Bats are mammals?
Bats are mammals.
Okay.
Penguins can't fly?

(29:22):
Penguins cannot fly.
No.
So the only one that could technically only have true flight is a bat.
Because apparently squirrels are the only glide.
Okay.
All right.
Well, man.
Okay.
All right.
So 0 for 1, but that's okay.
I feel like you're going to get this more here.
All right.
Two, what is the smallest planet in our solar system?
Is it A, Mercury, B, Venus, C, Mars, or D, Pluto?

(29:48):
I feel like this is a trick question because Pluto isn't a planet anymore, but my answer
would be Pluto.
It is Pluto if you count it as a planet.
Now, and I do.
I don't know.
Mainly because it's, yeah, it's always been debated just about the day in the planet and
it's fine.
And so if it was not though, it'd have been Mercury.

(30:10):
If you count it, it's Pluto.
So you got that one right.
All right.
Which country is known as the land of the rising sun?
Is it A, China, B, Japan, C, Thailand, or D, South Korea?
Oh, man.
The rising sun.
I want to go with Japan or South Korea.

(30:33):
What's your final answer?
We're going to go South Korea.
Ah, man.
You should have went with Japan.
It was Japan.
Land of the rising sun.
Yeah.
That's why they always had like the bandana with like the red sun on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
What is the longest river in the world?

(30:54):
Is it A, the Amazon, B, the Nile, C, the Yangtze, or D, the Mississippi?
It's not the Mississippi.
It's the Amazon.
It's actually the Nile.
The Nile is the longest one.
What?
Yeah.
All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's official.
I'm STOOPEV.
No, that's it's OK.

(31:16):
It's been a long time since high school.
What is it?
Maybe 20th year reunion nap?
No, I'm joking.
Stop.
Don't make me roast you.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
All right.
So next question, and I don't expect you to know this one.
This one's just kind of a more of an interesting fact question.
What is the first product scanned with the barcode?
Maybe I should expect you to know this former grocery boy.

(31:38):
All right.
So what was the first item scanned with a barcode?
Was it A, a packet gum, B, a bottle of Coca-Cola, C, a loaf of bread, or D, a can of soup?
Pat, or did you say a pack of gum?
Pack of gum, bottle of Coca-Cola, a loaf of bread, or a can of soup?
I feel like they would make it easy.

(31:59):
So I'm going to go with the can of soup.
Now it's actually the packet gum.
I just need to trust my gut.
You gotta trust your gut, man.
You gotta trust your gut.
You know these things.
You know these things.
I know you know these things.
Okay.
All right.
This one, anatomy.

(32:20):
Which organ in the human body produces insulin?
Is it A, the liver, B, the pancreas, C, the kidney, or D, the stomach?
It's your liver, right?
No, pancreas.
Pancreas.
It's your pancreas.
I was like, I was like, you almost did get, but no, it's the pancreas.

(32:41):
Pancreas, so okay.
Got the pancreas.
Next, which is the only continent that does not have native snakes?
So what is the only continent in the world that does not have native snakes on there?
Is it A, Antarctica, B, Europe, C, North America, or D, Australia?
It's going to be Antarctica.
I feel like it's too cold for snakes to be out in that mug.

(33:02):
Yeah, you're right.
There ain't no snakes in Antarctica.
There's not a whole lot of anything on Antarctica.
Alrighty, number eight.
What is the chemical symbol for gold to like on the periodic table?
Oh, gold.
Okay.
Is it A, AU?
Is it B, AG, C, GD, D, GO?

(33:25):
It's going to be AU.
It is AU.
You're correct.
Yep, AU.
See your picture.
AG is silver, right?
Yes.
All right, this one's also a little bit of an interesting one.
Nature, how many hearts does an octopus have?
Is it one, two, three, or four?

(33:46):
It's actually three, I think.
It is three.
There is three.
I didn't know they had more than one heart.
That's interesting that they have three hearts.
Yeah, it is.
But then I got to pump all that, you know, blood to all them tentacles.
So, you know.
Not to be all nerdy and whatnot, but I did watch a documentary about octopus.
They're like incredibly intelligent.
They be using tools and all sorts of things.

(34:08):
It's crazy.
All right, so.
I'm not going to go there.
I'm not going to go where my mind was going.
Okay.
Come on, I'll set you up.
Excellent.
No, no, no.
Excellent.
Excellent.
All right.
Next one.
What is the most spoken language in the world by number of native speakers?
So, what's the most widely spoken?
Is it English, Spanish, Mandarin Chinese or Hindi?

(34:31):
I want to say Spanish.
It is actually Mandarin Chinese.
What?
Oh, I guess it's all the most spoken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the most most big population.
Yeah.
All right.
We just got a few more here.
Which animal has fingerprints that is similar, so similar to humans that they can confuse
crime scene investigators?
Have you ever heard about that one?

(34:52):
Yes.
I think it's a gorilla's B koalas C chimpanzees or D orangutans.
I knew it was going to be some kind of monkey, but I would see the gorilla or chimpanzee,
but I'm going to go with the chimp.
You would think so?
It is actually a koala.
Apparently, koala.
Really?

(35:13):
Yeah.
If you look it up, they get confused crime scene investigators with koalas.
Interesting.
Isn't that wild?
Isn't that wild?
That is wild.
I found that out the other day too.
All right.
Which country invented ice cream?
So like technically invented ice cream.
We won't go into it.
A. Italy.

(35:33):
B. China.
C. France.
Or D. the United States.
Is it Italy?
It was actually China.
What?
China made an ice cream.
That's what they say and they said it's because of it.
It's a technical thing.
It's literally they froze some ice and got some frozen ice from a river and made some

(35:56):
flavor in technical ice cream.
So anyways.
All right.
13.
What is the world's largest desert?
And I bet you get the.
The Gobi Desert.
You know what?
Scientists the past few years.
The Sahara Desert.
It's the Antarctic Desert.
Oh, wow.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
All right.

(36:17):
But I know it's like the technical.
All right.
Very last one.
What was the first animal to orbit Earth?
Was it a monkey be a cat see a dog or be a turtle?
Once the astronauts went up.
I know it was a dog, right?

(36:37):
There's a dog.
Yep.
It was like she was aboard Sputnik 2.
Sputnik once astronauts went up.
Children only wanted to play with Spik's toys.
Yeah.
All right, man.
Well, that was a great segment and let's let's kick it on over to you.
So Chris, what fries your donuts?

(36:58):
Man, I went to the movies recently and I know you're not a big movie guy and I know when
I say this, you're going to 100% agree with me, but I'm getting really frustrated with
movies nowadays.
You know why?
Was that so?
Let me just talk about the movie experience.
First of all, now I'm a commercial guy.
I like watching the previews to see what's coming up, but it's getting out of hand.

(37:22):
It's getting ridiculous.
You're sitting here going like we're 15, 20 minutes in and we still haven't gotten to
the movie yet.
And you're like, okay, that was the last preview.
Okay, that was the last preview.
And then you're like, oh, and then you got the Coca Cola previews and then you got the
Hyundai previews and you're just like, dude, when are we going to get to the movie?

(37:42):
Yeah.
There's a lot of that.
There's always after the start point too.
And then there'll even be some, I don't know if they still do this, but sometimes what
would aggravate me and some theaters, they would dim the lighting like, okay, okay,
it's about to start.
It's about to start.
And then it's like, nope, a few more previews.
Yeah.
You're like, okay, the previews are done.
And then it's like, nope, here's four more previews.

(38:04):
And you're just like, okay, I get that you're trying to, and most of the time, like not
the actual movie previews, like the movie previews are fine, but then it's like the Coca
Cola and the Sprite previews that they aired before you got to the movie.
So you're like, I've already seen these.
Seen these already.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've, now do they still have some of the same, like, depending on the branding of like

(38:30):
the movie theater, sometimes they'll have like the same movie intros from like the nineties
of like the, like, you know, like the railway on the cinema track where there's like the
popcorn pop.
Yeah.
I do that in most theaters, but here's the thing, you know, at a premiere where I live,
they still show the same like commercial from 10 years ago for their, I'm just like, bro,

(38:55):
y'all need to update this.
Cause this is dated like, dang.
I'm telling you, well, that's what I'm saying.
I feel like there's some that I still do that.
And I don't know.
This is kind of a side note, but, and not what fries my donuts, but have you ever been in
a movie where like the projector broke down like mid movie?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(39:15):
That was, that was crazy.
I've had that happen too.
That really gets me.
So now let me get to the actual movies, processes, things, and you're going to agree with me.
I know you are.
Oh yeah.
I'm sure.
Why can we not have a movie where a villain is just pure evil?
That's what I want to know.
It's always this backstory of like, oh yeah, they were good.

(39:35):
And like, you feel sorry for them, but then you're like, oh yeah, you're kind of rooting
for them to like win at the end of like, but it's not like original stories, but it's
classics.
Like for example, I'll give you a prime example.
Like they're making a prequel to the Lion King called.
Mufasa, right?
You've seen that.

(39:56):
And in this, it's like, oh yeah, scars nice.
And like, he's a great brother and like everything and he's cute and everything.
And like, I'm understanding.
Okay.
It's just changed.
Yeah.
Right.
And I just have a villain who's just evil for the sake of being, because there is pure
evil out there.
I know.
Oh yeah.
That like good and bad with most humans is like a lot of times it is gray areas, right?

(40:20):
So sometimes crappy people like kind of have that tragic backstory, but like people that
are pure evil, they are pure evil from like the jump.
And I wish we would just be honest about that.
Yeah.
Some people are born into this world as, you know, narcissist and sociopath and psychopath.
Like, I mean, these are legit disorders that some people, and I'm not just talking about

(40:41):
disorders, but there are just some people who are just born into this world who like,
you can look them dead in the eye and you could be like, listen, they were born cold.
Like it was just like, well, like even with the movie, like the Joker movies with Joaquin
Phoenix, like he's pure evil, but that's like something to be celebrated, I guess.
And it's like, I'm kind of like, uh, this guy's pure evil and we're kind of celebrating

(41:03):
it.
And then people are like, yeah, like I'm all for it.
And I'm kind of like, I think that's just the farcical, you know, Hollywood narrative
is always, you know, there's, there's a good piece to everybody.
And I think, I mean, in a lot in this world, I think that's where, and it weirdly loops
into some of the other things that we've talked about of, uh, getting taken advantage of by

(41:25):
people who made necessarily be, you know, like you were saying, pure evil, but with that
disguise themselves with good intentions and then before you know it, it's like just like
in the movies or just like in TV, which I know I was really highly influenced in.
Next thing you know, it's like, oh, there's got to be like a, a semblance of good and
like you try to see the good in them.
And like, I don't know.

(41:46):
I feel what you're saying now on that front.
And then this is my last point and I'll keep this short, but like, and we talked about
this, they're making how to train your dragon, but a live action version.
Yeah.
And they're like, this movie is maybe 10 years old, maybe 12 years old.
And I'm like, dude, like, let's just have this movie.

(42:08):
Let me ask you this too, man.
And maybe, maybe, you know, you're, you're more into that room than I am, but was it
really that popular of a movie?
Like I don't feel like it was as popular as a movie to get like a live action 10 years
later.
It is.
So it's kind of like Dreamworks is like not staple, but it's kind of a marker.
So you know how you had like Shrek in the early 2000s, right?

(42:32):
How to train your dragon is definitely like the Shrek for that generation.
Like it's, it's a cutting edge movie.
And the movies are great, but like when I watched it, like the guy that plays or not
the guy, the dragon, the CGI dragon, toothless, it looks exactly same as the animated.
Like it looks dead exact same.
And I'm just kind of like, why are we doing a live action version with this?

(42:56):
Like it doesn't make sense.
Or it's like, Oh yeah, now we're rebamping this movie.
And it's like, this movie is only 20 years old.
Like, like they're doing a whole series on HBO Max.
And it's just basically Harry Potter all over again.
And I'm like, leave the movies alone.
Like the movies were good by themselves.
We don't need to add anything to it.

(43:18):
We don't need to re update this.
Like, can we just like think about the Wizard of Oz?
We have not remade the Wizard of Oz.
How like no one is remade.
I mean, there's been like different versions.
There's been like, there's been like, or Wiz or Oz.
I don't know if you've seen like, there's been a few different ones that have been
a little bit different, but yeah, you're right.
They haven't remade that sort of thing.

(43:41):
And there are a few like they haven't remade like the sound of music and stuff like that.
Right. They did remake it.
Did they really?
Yes, they did.
They made it a couple of years ago with not like a major live action movie.
It wasn't like one of the big ones that came out in theaters, but they did like another
movie version with Carrie Underwood, I think.

(44:04):
But pretty much man, it's just, it's we're out of ideas, I guess, and in Hollywood because
it's like we just keep pumping out the same stuff over and over again.
And partially, you know what fries my dough is about the whole situation.
And I'm going to call some folks out in America right now.
The thing is, if we stopped going to the movies and they stopped making the money, they'll
start making some stuff that's different.

(44:26):
It's like literally we don't have to go to the millionth sequel of it.
We know it's going to be bad.
Just boycott it and they'll start making other stuff.
Well, even like the ones that are original ideas, it's like, okay, this idea would be
a cool idea, but like the execution is makes it look like a really bad B-rated movie.

(44:46):
So you're kind of like, okay, like I don't know what it was.
I can't remember what the name of it was, but essentially it was in like this post apocalyptic
world where Texas and California like seceded from the United States and they're their own
nation now.
I think it was called civil war or something.
And I was like, that idea is cool, but like the execution of it was like really bad.

(45:08):
Like really, really bad.
Yeah.
I mean, and there's some stuff like that.
And I think a lot of it is because of who the budget is controlled by and things like
that.
I mean, I think that's a whole different subject, but no, I agree with you.
I think a lot of it.
And most of the time going back to the commercials, when you're at the movies and you're watching
through a lot of these commercials, a lot of times it's like, nope, nope, are you serious?

(45:29):
Yeah.
Seriously?
It's just like, oh, they're doing that again.
And it's just like not interested or I don't know.
Most of the time it's just like, oh, okay.
You'll watch it and you'll be like, I'm like, oh, that's going to be a flop.
Oh, that's going to be a flop.
And then you're like, there's some that are like, oh, yeah, like that'll be cool.
And then you're like, oh, like they're making the Minecraft movie.

(45:53):
Oh, yeah.
And Jason will always going to be in it and Jack Black and I'm kind of like, okay, that's
interesting.
But and then you're like, oh, yeah, here's another best and furious movie.
Oh my God.
Like, you know, yeah, the 80th one at this point.
But yeah, and I completely understand it fries by donuts too.

(46:14):
There's a reason.
So Chris forgoes to the movies quite a bit.
I don't really too much.
I'm not saying it's because of the commercials or whatnot, but it's more like, I'd rather
just do it from the comfort of my own home when it comes out.
And I'm just one of those kind of guys.
I will say like this holiday season, they have unleashed a lot of good movies like Gladiator
2, Wicked, like Moana 2.

(46:38):
I was like, oh, yeah, like these are solid movies.
Like they were pretty good.
But yeah, like everything else you're just like, dude, you got to be kidding me.
Yeah, absolutely.
But anyways, that's all I got to say.
How about yourself?
That's all I got to say about the movies.
All right, man.
I think I'm just really excited for our next segment, which is our improv segment.

(46:59):
It's our mystery donut.
And man, it's my favorite game that we do improv game.
It is called fortunately, unfortunately.
And we don't just play this on the podcast.
Like it's played in real life and real life in real life.
Just the other day, was that yesterday?
My time's all messed up yesterday.
We were talking and like, I don't know.

(47:21):
I think he was like, he's like, you kind of in a grumpy mood.
So next thing you know, we plan, fortunately, unfortunately.
So anyways, without further ado, let's play it fortunately.
Unfortunately, what category are you thinking or what?
I have a great one.
What's going on since?
And I don't know if you want me to shout this out, but my man, Micah used to not like Christmas

(47:43):
and recently he has gotten into the Christmas spirit.
And man, what about Christmas shopping?
Christmas shopping.
Oh, man.
OK, you want to do unfortunately, since you're such a grinch.
Well, you used to be a grinch.
You're not a grinch.
You know what? Let's let's stretch it.
Let's let's help me out.

(48:03):
I'm going to do the Christmas.
I'll be fortunately.
I'll do my best here.
I'll do my best.
All right.
All right.
Fortunately, there's a lot of sales this year.
Unfortunately, you can't find a parking spot because people don't know how to park.
Fortunately, I didn't take a car.

(48:24):
I rode a bike.
Unfortunately, there's still a crap ton of people in this store and they don't know how to walk
because they're all thinking about what they have to get for Christmas.
Fortunately, I'm so full of the Christmas spirit for decorating to where nothing can get me down.
I'm always going to be happy.
Unfortunately, your Christmas spirit is going to go away because that lady just stepped on your brand new Air Force ones

(48:47):
and now you got creases in them.
You can't crease my Air Force one.
Dang, man.
How are you going to do that to me?
All right.
Fortunately, and no, I'm not a sneakerhead at all.
But fortunately, that doesn't matter because I'm not a sneakerhead.
There you go.
Unfortunately, because you're not a sneakerhead, you don't know what sneakers to buy as a gift for your wife.

(49:15):
I'm sorry.
I run that one by me again.
Is that unfortunately because you're not a sneakerhead, you don't know what sneakers to buy as a gift for your wife.
Oh, fortunately, my wife is not a sneakerhead either.
So it doesn't matter.
Unfortunately, she really wanted a brand new pair of sneakers this year.
Fortunately, I've got Google on my phone, so we go figure it out.
Unfortunately, your battery is on 1%, so it died before you got the answer.

(49:41):
Just like ever.
Oh, sorry.
Fortunately, just like everybody in the Western world, I have what's called a phone charger and a wall plug in.
So it'll charge up for me.
Unfortunately, you didn't bring a car and there's no wall chargers in the Barnes & Noble.
Barnes & Noble.
Are they even still in business?
Yes.

(50:02):
Everybody knows Barnes & Noble is still in business.
Which one went out of business?
I don't know.
Anyways, I'm good on that one.
I got another one to come back to because apparently I can't charge my phone and buy my wife sneakers that I didn't know she wanted.
She ain't never wanted no sneakers.
She wants some handies.
All right.
All right.
So since we're talking about the holiday spirit, this isn't the Christmas episode.

(50:25):
We'll have one of those here in a few weeks.
But let's do this at a holiday Christmas party.
So maybe like a work Christmas party.
All right.
So you get to do fortunately on this one.
Fortunately, because we're at this Christmas party, we're not going to have to work as much today.
Unfortunately, Glenda already ate all the ham.

(50:46):
So all the good food is gone.
Fortunately, Cherise made the ham in her kitchen that has a whole bunch of cats that got on the counter.
So I'm glad that Glenda ate the ham.
Unfortunately, Glenda also ate the good cornbread that was baked in a fantastic kitchen.
Unfortunately, unfortunately, it was the Jiffy Brown Jiffy brand cornbread that she made.

(51:17):
So now you got to get the lesser brand.
Hold on.
Yeah, I think you went on.
Let's start over.
Let's just start over.
Let's just start over.
OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.
So you're fortunate.
Oh, OK, fortunately, we're here at the Christmas party and there is a lot of happiness and cheer.
Unfortunately, there's not a lot of happiness and cheer because Glenda ate all the good ham.

(51:42):
Fortunately, for us, there's still the macaroni and cheese that Cherise brought.
So it's OK.
Unfortunately, Cherise got sick and sneezed all of her mac and cheese.
So now nobody wants to eat.
Fortunately, I just got my COVID-19 20th booster shot, so I'm OK.
Unfortunately, that booster was just all a hoax and did absolutely nothing for you.

(52:07):
Sugar water.
Fortunately, it was a placebo effect, so now my body healed itself.
Unfortunately, no, it didn't.
I don't know who you told you that.
Fortunately, it's OK because I'm just happy that it's Christmas time.
Unfortunately, you only you got the news from your doctor.
You only have six weeks to live.

(52:28):
Fortunately, that's OK, because I didn't like the people I was hanging out with anyway.
Unfortunately, they all started becoming really nice quality people now that you've gotten this diagnosis.
Fortunately, fortunately, it's OK because I'm just happy that I have lived a good life.

(52:50):
Unfortunately, no, you haven't, so it's not going to be a good funeral.
Nobody show it up.
Fortunately, I have Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, so I will end up in eternity in heaven.
I really don't want to do this.
Unfortunately, that I just thought about.
I'm about to.
Unfortunately, you forgot about a boatload of sins that you get

(53:12):
after forgiveness for, and now you're going to hell.
Unfortunately, fortunately, the blood of Christ covers all my sins, so I'm still going to heaven.
I'm not going to.
I'm like saying that to get in a theological.
I'm not getting into it.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, anyway, that was our improv segment, and it has been time for us to wrap it up

(53:36):
because we've had a wonderful episode.
It's been great.
We love getting to go on the journey, but it's time for us to wrap it up.
And we're going to end with our last segment, which is our positive advice for our E.Claire.
And so, Micah, do you want to go ahead and kick us off?
Yeah, so pretty much.
I was thinking about something this last week, and now I don't know why I beat off philosophical,

(54:01):
but I was thinking about something this last week.
And so I was living up in the Lubbock area.
And if you know anything about the Lubbock area, it's really, really windy sometimes.
And I remember I bought this kayak.
Why did I buy a kayak in Lubbock?
I really don't know.
But there was very few water sources out there.
So drove about an hour with this kayak with a friend, and he had a kayak too.

(54:23):
So we get on the water for the first time and, you know, really didn't know what we were doing.
The biggest thing we didn't know what we were doing was going downwind and coming upwind
or two different things.
And so I remember it was like, man, we're going really fast.
We didn't think about it either, right?
And so we're going down the lake pretty much, like with the current and everything.

(54:47):
Like we weren't even barely paddling.
It's like, man, we're really flowing really fast and whatnot.
Everything is really good.
And then it's time to come back.
And the moment we turned into it, I mean, all the way back, it was right directly into the wind
and like all the waves and everything were hitting.
And the biggest thing that I remembered about this and what was so hard was I was already really, really tired

(55:08):
because of, I mean, everything, all the work you have to do to get a kayak into the water
and all this other stuff as well as paddling.
And now you're having to paddle just to stay in place.
Like if you didn't paddle hard enough, you're going backwards.
Like that's how hard it's like the wind is blowing.
That's how hard the current is blowing.
And, you know, it had me thinking about life and life is like that sometimes, you know,

(55:30):
it's really, really hard because you want to stop.
You want to stop paddling, but a lot of times that's when you regress.
And so there are some times in life where you got to push through.
And so I'm just, I'm just saying, I'll know who's out there.
But sometimes, you know, it's, it seems like everything is coming at you and you're not going to make it back there.
But it's like, not only are you going to find the strength to paddle, not just to stay in place,

(55:56):
but to keep moving forward.
And eventually we did make it back to the dock and it was, and don't get me wrong, it was one of those things.
It took quite a bit of recovery.
We sat in the truck and was like, Oh my gosh, that was terrible for the longest time.
I think it was sore for about three days, but at the same time, you know, again, in life, it's, it's a lot of the same thing.
So just don't give up.

(56:16):
And, you know, a lot of times it feels easy to just be like, you know what, I'm going to lift the paddles up and let life take its core.
And like, that's not, it's not going to work out well.
That's true.
Cause you never know, like you almost might right be at the finish line, but it's like hard because you're like, I'm so tired of paddling.
Like everything's fighting me.
And sometimes you're like, man, maybe this is just a sign of stop trying.

(56:39):
And that's really good.
That's really good.
Um, mine is, um, ask questions.
Questions are always a good like thing to help you get to know people better.
Um, so anytime you ask questions, like it helps you find the answers.
And we live in a society where you don't have to really ask questions anymore.
Cause you just can ask Google one question and it has all the answers for you.

(57:02):
But when you ask questions, it helps you learn more about yourself and more about other people.
And it's okay to ask questions like in order to get to know someone, I'm not the best like, um, socially.
And so I do struggle sometimes like with social anxiety and all that, but like I found in order to get to know people, like people love to talk about themselves.

(57:23):
So if you can ask some questions about themselves and just ask them more questions and more follow up questions, you more than likely can get to the root of the problem.
And a lot of times when people are like struggling with things or whatever, if you continue to ask questions and they're like saying, Hey, I'm just having a hard time.
Well, then ask a follow up question.
Hey, what do you mean by that?
Like, well, I'm just struggling.

(57:44):
Okay.
Like what do you mean you're struggling?
Like what are you struggling with?
And so if you can ask questions, it helps you get the answers.
And a lot of times in leadership, people think that you have to have all the answers, but great leaders are the ones that ask questions.
So don't be afraid to ask questions.
Cause it's a good thing.
And I'm even going to double down on that.

(58:05):
Something that's been going on in my personal life is having to get to know people for the first time and make a lot of first impressions.
Asking questions is fantastic.
Also to get to know somebody, kind of what Chris was saying, but at the same time, asking them kind of even inferring things.
They're wearing a particular shirt that says the Dallas Cowboys on there.

(58:26):
And you can go, Hey, you a Cowboys fan and you can make connections based on the questions that they have.
And even if they say no, but my wife is and I'm a, you know, a Pittsburgh Steelers fan or whatever.
And it's like, and we butt heads, but they won this year and she made me wear this shirt from then on in, you know, like, Hey, so and so has got this thing with his wife and whatever.
And so the next time they play, like you could be like, Oh, well, I see you won or whatever.

(58:49):
Right.
And those personal connection points really, really, not just help you get to know people, but really establish really strong connections with people.
And that are very long term. It's interesting how little small things like that go a very long way.
Yeah. And when you remember those things, people are like, I can't believe you remember that.

(59:09):
And it's like, that cost me what?
Is it my time?
That didn't cost me anything.
Two seconds and a little minuscule of brain power.
Right. I mean, that's not too much.
But anyways,
No one where to go find us.
Yeah, man.
Over at the trash can network, over at the trash can network on YouTube, Facebook and other social media.
Over at trash can travel over on YouTube and on the Instagrams and trash can network, of course, on Instagram as well too.

(59:36):
But yeah, we get to see our wonderful faces and things like that.
We kind of consolidated everything over into trash can travel as far as the aviator society on Instagram.
In case you missed that.
So that's over on that page.
But yeah, everything is rocking and rolling, man.
I, you know, I appreciate all of my followers.

(59:57):
Gotcha. I appreciate y'all.
And we really appreciate all the listens out.
I know, man, it is what it is.
But we appreciate all the listens out there.
And now all the views out there last week's did fairly well for our first time being on camera as well.
Because we did move over to that new Facebook page.
We kind of did some consolidating and moved over to a brand new and not Facebook page, brand new YouTube page.

(01:00:20):
So moving over to that new YouTube page was interesting how that was all going.
But you guys still found us and still came out in some decent numbers.
So I appreciate y'all on that one.
We appreciate y'all.
What you got to say, Chris?
Yeah, go watch us on the Donut Box podcast on YouTube.
If you have not done it yet.
So this one or next one, go watch us.

(01:00:42):
Okay. Now it's time for the Starship to take us on home.
I'm Chris and I'm Micah.
And this has been the Donut Box podcast.
See you later.

(01:01:22):
It was to give you this love in my heart that I'm feeling for you.
Let them see we're crazy.
I don't care about that.
Put your hands in my hands, baby, don't ever look back.
Let the wound around us just fall apart.

(01:01:44):
Baby, we can make it if we're hard to hold.
And we can build this thing together
Standing strong forever
Nothing's gonna stop us now!