S4 E8: IT Support, Soap Operas, and College Degrees

On this week's episode, Micah shares some of the craziest calls he's had as an IT Support agent which included prison fights from the state of Georgia! Micah and Chris also discuss going back to school as well as battling ADHD in their everyday life. What's Chris's problem with water and why blinking lights on airplanes have to be in a particular order for Micah. The boys also share some of their favorite cars, their most hated TV shows, and Chris's wrestler name all on this hot episode of the Doughnut Box podcast!

Episode Transcript

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Hi, I'm Micah.

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And I'm Chris.
And we've been friends for over 20 years.
Surprisingly, we haven't killed each other yet.
Years ago, we started our own variety show, and it's...
Now that we're adults, we decided to give it another try.
And you know what it says like in the movie?
Life is like a box of donuts.
You never know which one's gonna be the next one.
Wait a second, it's chocolates.

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Life is like a box of chocolates.
You never know what you're gonna get.
Oh.
Right. Okay, well, let's start the show.
This is the Donut Box Podcast.
Well, welcome back to another wonderful episode of the Donut Box Podcast.
We are rocking and rolling.

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We're in the official...
Second week.
Yeah, second week of January, man.
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah, I remember where we're at here, huh?
Here, like, I was sitting here thinking,
and we'll get into the podcast here in a little bit,
but I'm sitting here thinking like,
2024, that was like a year ago.
And then I'm thinking 2021, that was four years ago.

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Like, that feels like two years ago to me.
I don't know why.
Well, I don't either.
And then the other thing was,
I was a little while ago, you know, Kobe passed away.
What was it like in 2020?
January of 2020, yep.
And I even remember when that came up,
you know, that's about to come up.
And I've already been seeing some like tributes and things like that,

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even like beforehand.
And I'm sitting here going, that's five years ago.
Like, that was five years ago.
Like the pandemic and everything was five years ago.
These years have been zooming.
They really have.
And that's kind of scary.
Yeah.
And sad news.
John Cena's last year in ring, his retirement farewell tour.
Goodbye.
I think it'll be good.

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It'll be exciting to see.
But welcome to all those who are listening or watching,
because if you're listening on Spotify,
you should go check us out on YouTube
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That's donut with a G H.
So please go watch our faces cause we'd love to see you and connect with you.
But we got a free flow episode today.
We love asking each other's questions.

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We have different topics.
So Micah, do you have a question that you just want to go ahead and just shoot from the hip?
Sure.
So, um, one thing that I will say,
I love our free flow episodes and the reason being,
especially like asking each other questions,
cause we've been friends for over 20 years, like we said in the intro,
we could go through the whole intro if you want to get,
but no, we've been friends for over 20 years.

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And there are things that I find out in these questions that I'm like,
man, I had no clue in 20 years about you that that was even a thing
or even some stories come out.
It's like, really?
You did that?
Like when was this?
When did you, when this happened and come to find out later on?
Oh, yep.
Oh, that was a thing like,
oh, I kind of vaguely do remember that or kind of like it,
it brings out some and they find out things about each other through this

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podcast.
It's weird.
It's always like,
we were friends during that time and I'm like,
why didn't you tell me about this?
And you were like,
I thought I told you and it's like,
no, you never told me that story.
So it's always fun to hear the,
the stories that I don't know.
So,
all right,
to start the theory,
here's the theory that I'm going to start off with here.
This is before eating questions and we're diving into a rabbit hole.

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I think personally,
it's because,
um,
we didn't have a ton of communication like,
so when we did see each other,
right, it was at church in a public setting.
So some things we weren't going to like,
okay,
here's what happened this last week or whatever,
right?
Um,
or even like something that maybe the church wouldn't be too fond of like,
Hey,
I kissed this girl like in the bilo chip chip.

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Oh,
you know,
like things like that.
So like,
you know,
things that maybe you wouldn't say.
And so I think,
and not just that,
but for the longest time,
you know,
Chris didn't have a cell phone.
I didn't have a cell phone.
So it'd be like,
you got to call from the home phone.
And most of the time,
you know,
his mom go answer and it's like,
Hey,
is Chris there?
And so you know,
and like all she got to do is pick up the other phone and it's being monitored.

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So it's like,
listen,
we,
we making sure that nothing's being told.
So I think that's part of it.
I think that's,
we didn't really have a ton of time to be like,
Hey,
like,
I kissed this girl the bilo,
you know,
and have these like stupid stories.
So anyways,
all right,
back to a regular scheduled thing here.
Uh,
first question here.
So,
and this is not to call you out.

(04:19):
I don't have one either.
Um,
we both went to college for a little bit.
We won't went to secondary school or post secondary school.
Just a little bit.
Um,
have you ever thought about going back to school?
And if so,
are there any degrees in particular that peak your interest?
Um,
yes.

(04:40):
Like I went to Bible school to get my pastor certifications.
So like that was me going back to school after I went,
but like,
I've really thought about going back to school to get like a counseling degree.
Um,
just because like my dream job is to be a WWE chaplain.
Um,
and you kind of need to like,

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you kind of need to have like marriage and family therapy,
like counseling,
like I'm,
I'm naturally a pretty good listener and I give pretty good advice,
but like counseling teaches you how to think about different mindsets and everything like that.
So I have thought about going back to get like a counseling degree,
but like other than that,
I'm like,
well,

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but I go back to school for like maybe to learn like a trade.
I don't know,
but like to go for a four year degree.
Not really not so much.
That's okay.
Um,
I mean,
that's fair.
That's fair.
I was going to ask about you,
but I don't know if you want to get into all that.

(05:41):
Uh,
we can,
we can kind of get into it.
I've thought about several things,
man.
I've thought about,
I've thought about like some IT things cause that's where my career is right now.
And then,
um,
I've also thought about business business is kind of a blanket one.
I,
it's not really for like the business aspect.
Like,
yeah,
if I want to get into business or whatever that's good,
but I feel like it's a good blanket one cause really wherever you go,

(06:04):
whatever industry,
like a lot of what happens in business degrees apply.
So it's like,
okay,
um,
kind of a blanket degree me personally.
And this is kind of an off topic thing.
I know there's a lot of people who are opting out of college and going into trade schools and things like that.
And I have zero problem with that.
I think we have swapped in a culture,

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especially when we were growing up in the nineties and early 2000s where college was everything that was everything.
Like if you didn't go to college,
you were a stinkin loser.
Like you couldn't do nothing with your life at all.
And I think that our generation has come to find out like,
ah,
you can still make a good life without going to college.
Like you don't have to go into mountains of debt and do cause most people can't afford college like that.

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So you don't go doing,
go into mountains of debt to go to college.
And so it's like,
I feel like a lot of people have determined,
Hey,
I don't necessarily have to do that.
I can go and do whatever.
Dude,
there are plumbers out there making hundred twenty thousand dollars a year.
There are HVAC guys who are making a ton.
Now they might have went to technical school,
but still you could still learn those school that those trades without going to school.

(07:10):
So well,
I think to like with Gen Z and I can't wait to see what Jen Alford comes up with for careers,
but like the fact that streaming and like tick talk and social media has become such a big,
like people can just sit at home and they can just make content and like they do it quicker and faster than,
than I can.
And it's like,

(07:30):
dude,
like and they make bank,
dude,
like if you are really entertaining,
like they found a way to monetize it.
And so and also to like kind of going back to your point,
I've seen so many college students who are like,
yeah,
I'm going to college and then I'm like,
well,
what do you want to do after college unless they want to be a lawyer or doctor or counselor?

(07:53):
They're like,
I'm not really sure.
And then they changed their major like five times and you know,
I'm not joking with you 10 times.
Like literally 10 times.
It doesn't,
it doesn't surprise me at all.
And then there's I've known a lot of other people who it might not be changing their major,
but they'll just keep going back to college.

(08:13):
Like they'll,
they'll get a degree.
They'll get their bachelor's and then they'll go,
ooh,
I'm not ready to go into the workforce yet.
Let's get my masters and then there'll be masters and something completely different.
Like it'll be something,
something on the other end of the spectrum.
And then I've noticed a few people who are like,
let's go for our doctorate and those people like there are some people who are legitimately like for your career,

(08:34):
you need a doctorate.
Like there is no way like doctors,
for instance,
but at the same time,
a lot of careers.
Yeah,
you need to get ahead,
but still when you're getting into that entry level things,
it's not going to be like you're not getting your monies back from going and being a doctor or like going and getting your doctorate.
So a lot of it is people don't want to get out of school.

(08:54):
Like people don't want to leave school because it's scary out here.
That's like,
do you think and not everybody is this way,
but do you think those people like college is like they're safe bubble because like,
absolutely.
They went from okay,
high school where like,
I hate to say this,
but like they kind of peaked in high school and then they're like,

(09:16):
I'm going to college and like,
oh,
I'm afraid to get out in the real world and get a real job because mom and dad and like some of these kids,
like mom and dad will be like,
as long as you're going to school,
we're going to support you.
Like we will pay for this and that.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Hear me,
but like,
I think you're right.
Like,
some people stay in school because they're like,

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I'm afraid to get out into the real world.
Like,
and what's interesting is like,
like the people that go straight to work by the time they're 19 or 20,
they have more experience than people who are at 26 and getting out of school.
You know,
and I'm not saying that it's like a,
they're better than anybody,

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but you know what I mean?
Yeah,
no,
absolutely.
And I completely agree with you.
I think too,
to your point about peaking in high school,
I think there are some of people like that.
And then I think there are some people who peak in college.
Like I think that is a thing because the thing is some people love their colleges,
whether it was in their fraternity,
whether it was whatever.

(10:19):
And I think it's that first little inkling of or inkling of freedom.
Like some people have that freedom of high school.
Okay.
I got my first car and went out and did my stuff.
Now some people didn't have that.
So you go to college and now it's like,
and not just that,
but even if you did have the freedom in high school,
like for myself,
I necessarily didn't have a group that I fit in and you go to college.

(10:39):
There will always be a group you fit in and listen,
if you thought you were weird in high school,
there will be a group weirder than you in college.
I guarantee you that like it is,
it is a vast community and it doesn't matter what school you go to.
I,
there is all sorts of communities.
And so I think a lot of people,
they get to college.
It's a little bit away from home,

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but when they get home,
they get praised from their parents for getting good grades for going to college.
You know,
they're so proud cause they're kids going to school,
but they're far away.
They get to party,
have a good time and then before you know it,
okay,
those four years are done.
Now I'm about to have to start paying for everything.
I'm leaving my friends.
I'm leaving the,
this town that I'm now love because I have all these,

(11:22):
you know,
spots that I like to hang out with and I know,
you know,
and now I have to go move off and get a job cause most of the time,
college towns don't have the jobs that you're,
unless you go work for the college,
which some people that I'm talking about do that as well.
They're like,
you know what?
I love this school so much.
I'll go work there.
But no,
I think there's a lot of comfort all around to where it's just,

(11:42):
it's a very comfortable environment.
It's like,
I don't want to leave because this is just very comfortable for me.
That's interesting that you said that cause you're right.
I think some people do peak in college and you,
you've seen those,
I don't know.
You can tell the type,
but they're those frat bros.
It's like,
oh man,
back in my fraternity and like their best days.
That's all they want to talk about.
Yeah.
All they want to talk about and it's like,

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it's like,
oh,
let's call all the guys up and let's go back to the old stomping grounds and
like this and that's all when I was something in
kind of a gel to the pie or whatever it's like,
and that's fine.
Like you shit,
but like,
like if you want to do that,
that's cool.
It's just one of those things we're more talking about.
You never move on from that,

(12:24):
right?
Yeah.
Like you could be,
I've seen the people who are 45 still going back to their,
you know, whatever reunions and they're still trying to drink each other under the
table because they think that that's cool or whatever.
And it's like,
guys,
you'll have kids,
you'll have kids who are about to be grown and in college themselves.
Some people I've even seen parents on college weekends,
like over at tech,

(12:45):
you see,
you know,
when it's whatever like family weekend or whatever and all the families
come into town.
It's like,
I've seen some people at the freaking red Robin just,
I mean,
kids with dads going pound for pound trying to like out drink each other.
And it's just like,
listen,
I know you in college like for the weekend,
but please like,

(13:06):
yeah.
And that's just kind of like,
and both Mike and I have the same mentality.
My,
my mentality is my best days are ahead of me.
Not behind.
Absolutely.
You have to have that mentality because like,
if you don't,
you'll,
you'll stop and you'll,
you know,
yeah,
you'll always have that mentality.
My best days are ahead of me.
Like,
but then again,
too,
you can get in the trap of like,
not realizing or appreciating the good old days when you're in the while

(13:30):
they're here.
But I think a lot of what we're talking about is the opposite into the
spectrum where a lot of people are like,
oh,
I didn't see the good old days while I was in it and they're just trying to
relive it however they can.
And it's like,
okay,
why can't you make it out of and then they missed the good old days that
they're currently in because they looking behind them.
So it's like,

(13:50):
it's one of those things.
And plus,
I'll tell you this much about the past.
If you look into the past,
there's so many times that I look back and go,
oh yeah,
those are good times.
I'm like,
bro,
I was broke as a joke.
I was stressed out to the nines.
I had so many problems,
but you don't remember any of that stuff.
You just remember like,
oh yeah,
it wasn't a stressful time.
I didn't have this and this and this going on.
It's like,

(14:10):
yes,
it was,
it was very stressful.
Yep.
That was a long,
it was.
Yeah,
that was a long first question.
Longer.
Yeah.
All right.
That's good.
My question,
you kind of hinted to it that you're in the IT world.
I'm not going to talk about anything currently because of the
nature of your job,
but what is either the dumbest or the most frustrating

(14:32):
question you've gotten in IT?
Okay.
So this has to go back to the state of Georgia service desk.
So I worked for the state employees of the state of Georgia
and weirdly enough.
So it was,
if you've heard other episodes of the podcast,
Chris and I used to live in Georgia.
I was currently living in Texas and Austin,

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Texas of all places and this company just happened to have the,
so I was talking to people like from Augusta from places that,
you know,
I remember talking to this one lady.
I was just like,
you ever been to harbor in the sequel place?
She's like,
oh yeah,
I mean,
I love that place.
You know,
it closed down right?
We're like sitting there in a hospital about town.
Anyways,
so I think probably the dumbest one,

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it would always come out of the prison system.
Man,
like shout out to them prison guards out in the middle of
nowhere in Georgia,
but they had no idea what was going on with some computers,
right?
And so the thing was,
if you had to have an outage or something like that,
you had to have certain information to take down so that
the technicians can start fixing it.

(15:37):
You're kind of that bridge.
They call you and say,
hey,
this is all down and you got to ask all this information.
And so that's always a fun little task.
And so for me,
the only thing for an IT person and I hope this is a
little too technical,
but we've all seen the little command prompt,
right?
Like the little black screen where you could type something

(15:58):
in.
And so we would ask people to go there and you would type in
just simply IP config and we would just spell it out for them.
It's all one word.
And so I would say IP config spell that out for me and I
understand for,
for some people that is a little difficult,
but the line that I got from this one lady was just classic.

(16:19):
She was fighting me every step of the way.
She didn't want to do anything.
She just wants you to get into her computer and fix it.
Now the problem is when you don't have internet,
you can't do anything like there's nothing you can do.
And so type IP config.
She goes,
sir,
I don't know that level of coding.
That was the line that I got.
And it's like,
okay,
that's not coding ma'am.

(16:39):
That's just one word of IP config.
Do me a favor.
And sometimes you can get some error codes from opening up
your browser like Google Chrome or things like that.
And so I said,
hey, can you open up your web browser for me?
And she did not know what a web browser was.
She was like,
I don't know what you're talking about.
And like I had to walk her through like Google Chrome,

(16:59):
internet Explorer.
And like it took me going down to the icon of like,
it looks like a little green with a yellow and then like for
the internet Explorer at the time,
because this one internet Explorer was like,
it's like it's a little I and an E with like a little swirly
around it,
you know,
like trying to explain it to her.
And you know, it's just it's just some garden in the middle

(17:20):
of in the middle of Georgia in a tower somewhere who locked
herself out of her computer and are not locked herself out
of her computer.
But like that could be one of the things but most but this
time it was,
you know,
the whole internet went down and like that is a problem
because some prisons in Georgia,
they be using the internet to like open up the gates and stuff
like that.
Like they have like some no,

(17:41):
like the internet goes down like some stuff could be.
Be a little bit little bit.
Not so it's one of those things of like you got to understand
this information,
but I think probably the craziest things were not it related
with that job is and again,
it was with the prison system because you'd be like,
yeah,
I locked myself out.

(18:02):
I'm sorry,
let me get into better character.
Yeah,
I locked myself out.
My name is Lee Miller.
That's Lee L E.
E.
It's just like,
I think I know how to spell Lee.
I appreciate you.
You saw craziest thing I saw or craziest thing I heard.
You heard craziest thing I heard was a full on like inmate brawl.

(18:23):
And that was one of those things to where the only way I could
tell what was going on is because she was on the phone one
minute and then she was off the phone the next and you just
hear like scuffle it.
You just like stop stop it right now.
It's like,
I'll tell you without that wreck and then all of a sudden like
a few minutes later,
you hear a few guards come into the room where the phone is
and the phone is still like off the hook,

(18:45):
I guess or whatever and they're just like to like,
so what happened was inmate Jones and inmate Miller got to a fight
and then what ended up happening is inmate Tilson.
He come over there and then like they're just talking about
the whole thing and I'm just like,
hello because I can't hang up.
So I'm like,
hello.
And then the other one was the lady called me from the prison

(19:06):
infirmary.
She was like a nurse and she needed to log in like quickly
because she in order to get their prescriptions and things out
like she had to get into the computer and she was locked out
and she was like,
can you can you and so like I'm rushing this and in the background
I will save you the in censor the words but somebody was screaming
quite loud profanities and and then you heard somebody in the

(19:30):
background.
You could tell it was an officer or somebody and he goes calm down
calm down.
If you just tell me what happened like we can get to the bottom of
this and he goes,
I was f and stab that's what happened and like I mean he was
just like so mad and he was just screaming and yelling and
right about the time he was like,
how was f and stab she goes.
Yeah, if we could hurry that would be great.

(19:54):
You could tell she was just like nervous and she's like and
she's probably getting trying to get my pain meds or something
right.
I mean,
I don't know but and then in the background you hear I love
the Georgia I really do but y'all love to gossip so you be
hearing like gossip and so like all that's gone and then I hear
two ladies this list like well we ran out of whatever this medications

(20:14):
gonna be it's like what are they gonna be out for the weekend
because we get nothing till Monday.
You hear like all this stuff on the phone.
It's it's like you never know what you're going to get on that
next phone call but some of those are some of the funniest
one I told some of my friends up there like we should write a
book like collectively of all the phone calls because you just

(20:35):
get some oh well I can't tell you that one never mind.
You should I can't I can't say the full name on the podcast.
It's not good.
You should do kind of there's a like a page on Instagram called
the youth group chronicles and they talk about the craziest
thing that happened in the youth group.
You guys should like make a channel like the it Chronicles
call center cargo.

(20:56):
Yeah, I feel like that page would probably blow up because
it'd be like pop off.
Yeah sending their stories and you guys could just read them
that'd be really cool.
Heck yeah because I mean there's there's got to be a ton of
them.
I mean every day you would come out with multiple of just
like oh my gosh and then you have your really good days or
everything flows really smoothly and then you have somewhere

(21:16):
is just like back to back of like are these people serious
or they like there are some times where people are so dumb
you're just like are you messing with me right now.
Like please tell me you're messing with me.
I think he's messing with me on the other end.
Last thing about call center antics.
We used to do at least I used to do this.
They would tell me accents to try to hold for the entire thing
and of course I have my my regular repertoire but they love

(21:40):
the country one they loved especially because you're talking
to people from Georgia so like you're matching their energy
almost and so after all the managers would leave at five
sometimes I'd pull some overtime and they would love that
because they go oh yeah we're going to end because the calls
would slow way down so it'd be like one or two.
You'd put it on speaker for everybody to hear so everybody
would kind of pile around and you'd hear and so call comes in

(22:03):
and it's me and they're like yeah be as country as you possibly
can and I'm like thank you for calling site in Georgia service
they have this assignment.
What's your first and last night and this late and this lady
on the other end.
I thought she was going to be some podunk country bumpkin
whatever she goes.
Oh yes I'm Dr. Blackwell and she was like from I don't know

(22:24):
very high up position with an organization called D.B.H.D.
it's like debilitative health service I don't know but it's
like super high up neuro specialist lady like super high up
and bro it was a two hour problem and I had to hold a
country accent that entire time and like there were times where

(22:46):
I swear she was on to me because she would like laugh and like
it's just like I can't and like it was a very in depth problem
and I had to be like all right so what we're going to have to do
is I'm going to have to take out look I'm going to have to do
that and I'm going to have to rebuild your profile all right
because right now it's corrupt and that's the biggest problem
we're having and like she just she held it for the longest time

(23:09):
but there was times where she cracked up and like I think she
probably knew but I held the entire phone call and by the end
of it just everybody was just like dang like that was pretty
wow so there is antics like that anyways you're ready for
your next question after another long question and answer
there.

(23:30):
Those were great stories.
Yeah.
All right so if you could be a wrestler and shoot up to the
WWE so like if you're the wrestler you should up to WWE
like you already just have the natural ability for some odd
reason you're like God's prodigy of whatever of wrestling here

(23:51):
like that's you basically you shoot up WWE what's your wrestler
name first.
I got a few questions here.
I'm the Hebrew hammer.
You're going to go with that.
I'm the Hebrew hammer and I'm thinking that first I'm going to
be like a bad guy right.
Well see hold on hold on that was that was my next question I was
going to go hero or heel that's the next question.

(24:14):
I'm a bad guy and I'll like come in I'm going to like have my
beard and like I'm going to paint my face and then I'm going
to wear like the prayer shawl thing over my head and I'll like
come in with that but I'm not going to do like the tip but
yeah and then and then I'm going to have a tag team partner.
I don't know who that's going to be but our tag team may well be
the sons of thunder.

(24:35):
Okay.
That's good stuff.
My signature move you know what my signature move is.
Yeah that's what I was going to say is what's your finisher
or what's your signature move.
It's either two it's going to be the hammer drop.
Okay so that's kind of like a like kind of an elbow drop type
deal or it's going to be the spinning cradle.
So what how that looks is I'm going to take the guy and I'm

(24:57):
going to spin them around like a couple of times and then body
slam them spinning.
Yeah we've talked about it but listen to people out there I
legitimately want that wrestler name.
Listen this man would love to be Jewish if he was Jewish like he
would gladly accept that.

(25:18):
Dude I'm going to potentially take a 23 and me because I think
I partly am.
You think you are?
Apparently there was a big Jewish population in France like so
I'm going to.
Listen man the beard and I don't know.
Yeah just say it.

(25:40):
And I'm sure it is Hebrew.
There you go.
Alright come to Switching Gears and we talked about this two
episodes ago kind of about like an ADD or ADHD and like being
overstimulated.
You kind of talked about how like for you in order for you to
eat like you have to be done with your day right like that's

(26:03):
great eating it.
Is there any other weird ticks or things that like set you off
that maybe would not be considered normal or like a weird
tick?
There's other things that like showers for one is that is when
I'm done with everything or at the beginning of the day like
that's either for the beginning of the day or what I'm done with

(26:25):
the day that is a wind up or wind down activity.
I don't know how showers could be interchangeable like that but
it can't be.
The biggest thing for me there's a lot of really small things.
I noticed like I obsess about a lot of kind of like you with
wrestling.
I wouldn't say that it was it's obsessive but like it's borderline

(26:48):
right like you you naturally want to learn and have a lot of
knowledge on these things.
Something that really irks me is when you have some knowledge
and then some people be like nah you're wrong but you know they're
wrong.
Like it's like listen man I've been I've been really really up on
this for like a long time like obsessively.

(27:10):
I don't know it's kind of crazy but it's one of those things to
where it's like listen don't don't try to out nerd me on what I've
nerded on here.
And don't get me wrong sometimes I am wrong like for instance this
is something that's kind of funny but like on the aviar society
page which is now trash can travel.
There has been comments on there of like plane types like I'll say

(27:33):
like okay this is a plane type and there will be people that will
try to argue and be like oh no like for instance they'll be like
I'll be like this is 737 700 they'll be like oh are you sure it's
not an 800 I'm like.
It's like I know really really and it's just like do you want me
to respond right now because and it's like half of half of me
thinks like you just must be like trolling right now like or

(27:55):
something like that because it's like it's obviously not but at
the same time it's those kind of things really irked me but the
other thing that I would say is really big is attention to detail
like it's weird sometimes I have problem with attention to detail
and I think that's just when I'm a little off mentally but when
people don't have necessary attention to detail and.

(28:18):
I'm going to go into one example in particular it's back to
planes man back to planes so when I'm watching planes when I'm.
It's called plane spotting when you're out watching planes and a
plane takes off and it's at night so you have the red blinky
light at the bottom right for I'm just going to put it in layman's
terms red blinky light at the bottom and the two strobe lights on

(28:41):
the end the white lights that flash right I can't stand it when
those are off kilter and what I mean by that or like the timing
is off typically what what I like to see is that red light flash
and then flash flash red and but if it's like all intermixed and
all wonky it messes with me man I don't really understand it but
it's one of those things that frustrates me because what I've

(29:03):
been told and I'm not sure about this if there's any aviation
lovers who are in the enthusiast out there that know better than
me this is one of the areas I don't know what I've heard from
technicians is that is an attention to detail thing like that is
the way that you install the lights there are ways that you
could program it to where it's supposed to be a certain array

(29:24):
and that's just like you threw it in there and get this thing on
out the door kind of thing and I don't know if that's the
frustration behind it but I don't like those sort of things and
like even right now it's got me making weird hand motions like
I don't like that like it just messes with me you know what I
mean like I don't get it. I mine is weird so like if I'm

(29:46):
like taking like taking a shower it's not a problem but I don't
like water on my skin at all so if it's raining out I have to wear
long sleeves and I do not like water in my face like I really
absolutely don't like that's kind of like a trigger for me like I
don't like water in my face or water on my head if like if I'm

(30:09):
jumping into a pool like that's different or if I'm taking a
shower that's different but like if I were to get splashed on my
face like someone actually spilled water or something I don't
like that or someone were to spill water on me like it's not
like I'm afraid of water I just don't like it. I get it like

(30:30):
let me ask you this because we've never discussed this before I
never knew this about you but I understand it as well is it
kind of one of those things like takes your breath away like
that's the part that ticks me off like sometimes if like or at
least that's what happens with me like say a splash of cold water
happens even if it's like a small bit of it's like ooh like it
kind of shocks you but it like almost like takes your breath away

(30:53):
for a second in a weird way that kind of the same way that you
get like it and same thing with like lotions or like any maybe
it's texture things but I don't like like lotions or like I don't
know like washing my hands that soap that's different but like
if I were if like my hands are like gunky or whatever I don't

(31:15):
know maybe this is like a personal preference but I don't
like like corner pieces of brownies or like corner I have to
like have the middle. Well that's what that's what I was
about to ask you what about like texture of foods or they're
like a lot of are there foods that you're like I just straight
can eat because there's some people for instance but like
Minuto is really big here in Texas right like I find it personally

(31:39):
good but there are some people because it's it's intestines and
it's like it's stomach right. Yeah probably I don't know but
a lot of people are like that's a texture of stuff it's kind of
like I don't know but I have a weird like tick with that I don't
know what my tick is so it's like I have to have like everything

(32:03):
like and then even if it's two if it's like a video game or
like a challenge if I'm like failing or something like I
have to go back to a specific starting point in order for you
for me to like move ahead does that make sense like it's like
yeah specific and what's weird is and again I don't know if

(32:27):
this is like I've never been diagnosed with on the spectrum
ADHD I have my theories but like even when I was a baby like
when I was learning to walk like when I would fall down I would
have to go back to the exact same spot to start again like I
couldn't just pick up where I left off like you know what I
mean like I go back to the original starting point and then

(32:50):
so I that's a weird tick like it's weird and then we've kind of
talked about this you're you're talking about you know ADHD
and things like that well I think I'm ADHD and I don't know if
you experienced this too so I feel like my mind and I'm going
to sound like Shrek layers it's all about the but my mind runs
in layers like there are different layers of things going

(33:11):
on that sure there are things on the forefront of my mind but
there could be nine things in the background like think about
it in a computer and like a browser term right I could have
all these tabs open right I could be working on one actively
but there's all these things actively going on at the same
time I think for me it's
hard because there are my mind jumps because there are nine

(33:36):
things that are going on all at one time my mind jumps from
one thing to the other so frequently to where I am now
working on nine things at one time because I'm not actively
focusing so like for instance I can even tell you an example
from today today I was writing up some of these questions for
the podcast like I was thinking about some of these questions
from the podcast something else that's on my mind is doing

(33:59):
the budget for this next mid month like I do mid month budgets
like every every half of the month I do a budget and so I'm
kind of already preparing for that and I was thinking about
some different expenses because even throughout the month I'm
writing down expenses that I can see that are coming up and
things like that so there was that going on I have trash can
travel each day I post a story about a different flight track

(34:24):
that's going on so mentally I'm like okay where are we going
from today to today we're going from Denver to because like I
do enjoy that right but you see what I'm saying right and
before I know it I've opened up Canva I've already made part of
it now I need to go over to flight radar get the rest of the
details from flight radar to come back over here and I go
okay before I go to flight radar let me go back over to this

(34:46):
other task and before you know it I am embedded in five
different tasks in five different places that's why I think I'm
going to go in from reservations because for me to be on
that 품uge I'm not going to be on those four or they are
out there right now in Newitating County so kind of
them right now because we had a lot of送 from airflow
too much on the younger people so I can get that from my

(35:09):
own neighborhood right now in Winter Paso and ÇaPhone
andė throwing my immigration in On my business right
now and then I type in an infamous information on my
immigration account just to show that it's actually
And then he's like, it's like, how do you get Mr. Rogers?
It's like Darrell, Darrell Philbin, Regis Philbin,

(35:31):
Reg Rogers, and that's how my mind thinks like,
Exactly. Exactly.
Like if I see on your sign, Washington, DC,
my mind's going to be thinking, okay, the capital.
Okay. Now for some reason,
my mind thinks about George W. Bush.
Then in my mind thinks about the Nike shoes
that I used to have that I wrote George W. Bush on.

(35:52):
And then I'm going to tell you the story randomly
about when I wrote George W. Bush on my shoes.
And you may be like, why, why didn't you just bring up
that was randomly, but that's where my mind like goes to.
So.
And see, it's the same thing, bro.
I totally get you. Like right behind you,
you got a, an action figure of Randy Orton, right?
Then I think about, oh, well, I'm sitting here looking,

(36:14):
I'm thinking Randy Orton anyways.
So if it still works though,
my mind is thinking about Randy Orton, right?
Then I'm like, wasn't there that guy, Kyle Orton?
Yeah. He was the quarterback for the Broncos.
Then he got traded to the Bears.
It's like the Bears never really had a quarterback.
It's like, they've kind of sucked this year
before you know it, you're honestly.
And it only took you five to two seconds down.

(36:35):
Like, and I like, I hate to like be this way.
And I need to be, and I'm,
I really try to be this way with my wife.
But when I'm talking to other people,
do you ever like, when you're talking to people like,
you're there and you're like, but like your mind,
you're like your eye, everything or what?
Like if something little happens,
like your eye is catching it.
And I used to get in trouble with my ex about,

(36:57):
cause she's like, are you looking at,
and I'm like, no, like literally everything is catching.
Everything's catching my, everything's catching my.
And weirdly enough, that's opening another tab
because that tab, now you're going
and you're looking at what's going on with this.
And that's something that you're focused on.
Because for me, if I'm focused on that one thing,
yes, I can like not focus on it for a minute,

(37:18):
but it's still there.
Like I'm still kind of weirdly thinking about it.
It's still, I don't know, it's still a thing.
And so, go ahead.
Now I know this is like, it's,
you're trying to ask a question,
but while we're showing this topic,
like I've noticed with people that kind of grew up
and millennials and a little bit like almost Gen Z,

(37:39):
kind of people that grew up in like the late 80s, early 90s.
I've heard of, and maybe it's just because
it's been more widely brought attention to,
but I feel like everyone our age,
it feels like they're on the spectrum
or have ADHD in some way.
And like, I know I've seen the meanings of it was like,

(38:00):
if you're, used to be like in the gifted and talented program,
now like you drink Red Bulls,
you suffer from ADHD, all this stuff.
So do you think, my conspiracy theory is,
maybe it had to do with some of the vaccinations we got.
Maybe it's also too like, maybe just the spectrum is so wide

(38:22):
now that everyone's on the spectrum
in some way, shape or form.
But why do you think like,
so many millennials our age like, have those issues?
Cause I noticed that.
So let's take it one step deeper.
What if are in the way our society was set up?
So we were kind of talking about college

(38:43):
and the way that college was pushed really, really hard
and how some of these educational programs,
cause I remember, you know,
we were prime proponents of going through elementary school,
middle school with no child left behind.
So a lot of things ended up changing
and a lot of things, mindsets changed,
a lot of, you know, curriculums changed, things like that.

(39:03):
And so if we're being real man, I think part of it,
if you were gifted and things like that,
I think it was a dual-edged sword.
So I'm going to take it to another country.
I've got a buddy of mine, his name's Ryan, super cool guy.
He was in the military.
He spent some time in Korea.
And did you know the suicide rate in Korea is quite large?

(39:27):
Like I hate to go dark, but it's quite large.
But reason being is the pressure that was put on them.
And it is literally, if you're not doing a good,
if you don't have a good job, if you're a trash man,
you dishonor your family.
Like if you're not getting a load of education,
you are dishonoring it.
Like it is a massive deal.
So so many people, they had to install these fences

(39:47):
and all this stuff on this mountain.
I don't remember which mountain forgive me
because people were throwing themselves off left and right
because it was a problem.
Now I'm not saying that's happened.
I think it's definitely to a lesser degree here,
but I think maybe these are the side effects
that we're starting to see because of it.
Maybe a lot of these pressures because the gifted kids,
I've been in some gifted classes

(40:08):
and essentially what happens is they tell you,
you're great, you're great,
you're gonna be the next future generation's
best next thing.
But they don't,
there was not a lot of guidance on how to do that.
And so I do, there is a lot of pressure of you get out here
and you go, okay, well, I'm supposed to be the next best thing,
but you don't even know what the heck you wanna do.

(40:29):
So of course that's gonna stress you out.
And of course you're gonna feel like a failure.
And of course you're gonna feel all these things.
And do I think that it's necessarily autism
or ADHD or things like that.
To be real, I think a lot of the habits
that we have gained along the way, study habits,
there's a lot of people that I know that's like,
man, it's finals week, we're popping out

(40:50):
or all left and right.
And don't think that doing stuff like that
is not going to get you to a place
where you have attention deficit or something like that
because anything that makes you over attention
is messing with the chemicals in your brain.
So I think a lot of that,
I'm not saying it's just for the people that's done
an anorhol, but I'm saying like, it's one of those things
I've known so many people will stay up all night to study.

(41:12):
I've known so many people who do unhealthy things
to be the next best thing, just come on the other end
and go, I don't know what I'm doing
because what am I supposed to be doing?
Because I was told I could do anything.
So what are we supposed to do?
And so I think that that definitely plays a role into it.
And I know that was really deep,

(41:32):
but I think that that has something to do with it as well.
And again, that makes sense because you look at Gen Z
and Gen Alpha, they can be on their iPad,
watch a movie and be doing something else, all of the same.
And that's normal.
It's just, they're like, oh, that's just Gen Z,
that's just Gen Alpha, but for millennials, it's like,
hey, hey, you have to focus.

(41:53):
And even like, so when I, and this is a big rabbit show,
but like even when I first started in kids ministry,
like the first thing they would tell you,
like typical kids ministry is like,
okay, they're all sitting down, they're quiet,
they have their hands full, nobody's talking,
but like trainings have come out.
It's like, no, we can't do kids ministry the same anymore

(42:16):
because that's not how kids are learning.
My kids are different, like,
so trying to adapt to the way they learn,
but that makes sense.
So.
Yeah, absolutely.
The only reason that I say that is because I,
we can go in, you know,
here's a whole another episode idea, Christopher,
going through school with supposed ADHD because

(42:39):
we'll get an official diagnosis and we'll do that episode.
Right?
But no, it's one of those things to where I did have
a lot of struggles in school because of,
because of focus and attention issues,
but we can go into something all that later
cause that could be a whole episode.
All right, you ready for our next question?
Yeah, we'll shift off that topic.
Okay.
We can, I mean, that's one you can go into all day,
I feel like.

(43:01):
So this is one like an F or if you had to live
without one of these, which one would it be?
Car or hot water?
So like you had to give up your car or hot water.
What are you doing?
You taking cold showers or you're not driving?
Probably not driving.
Probably not driving.
I don't know.
You can't do cold water.

(43:21):
You're like, I'm not doing cold water.
And I guess I could.
I don't know.
Well, here's the question.
Basically what we're saying is,
would you take the bus to have hot showers?
Yeah, you take the bus.
There's public transportation.
Yeah, I don't have a problem taking the bus.
Okay, but it's inconsistent routes.
And it's like, you got to take four stops.

(43:42):
Okay, now I feel like you're changing the rules.
I don't know what to say.
But yeah, no, would you, you have,
you would take cold showers if you could still have your car?
Yeah, I like to freedom of having a car, man.
I would take cold showers.
I, it's one of those things.
Cold showers, they're uncomfortable,
but I don't know if you know this after football.

(44:04):
I used to take cold showers after every all practice
and stuff like it was mainly just
because it was so stinking hot.
And you just,
so I would start off the water kind of nuke luke warm,
you know, and then when you can get it
to where you can stand it, not be like,
I hate it when you step into it and it's freezing.
But like, if you kind of anyways,
kind of gradually do it.
Anyways, all right, what's the next one?

(44:24):
That was like, I was super short one
compared to the rest of the questions.
What is one TV show that you cannot stand?
There's a lot of them.
There's a couple of them.
So the Kardashians is one of them.
There's a lot of MTV programming.
Like basically you can say MTV in a nutshell.

(44:46):
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm pretty much on board with that.
And mainly a lot of these shows
is because I had to watch them with my ex.
And thank God my wife now, like she likes watching
some of this stuff, but like she don't force me
to watch this stuff.
So it's okay.
But there's like the Kardashians.
I know Jersey Shore is not as big as it was

(45:07):
or I don't think it is on anymore.
I don't even know, but couldn't stand that stuff.
And then the other one, I can't stand soap operas.
Like one, there's something about a soap opera
that like you can always tell when a soap opera is on.
Like I could turn that TV on right now
and it's a soap opera.
I could tell you in 0.2 seconds,
like you don't even have to say a word.

(45:27):
It's about like the cinema of it.
Like the camera angles,
like I swear they use the same cameras from the 80s.
That's why it looks like it does.
And the same sets from the 80s.
Cause it's just like it has a look.
The actors look the same.
Like it just, you could, it's like soap opera.
You could tell.
The one that I can't stand the most is days of our lives.
I had to, every day Christopher,

(45:50):
that was the days of my life.
I had to watch that with your ex
or watch that with your grandfather.
With my ex.
With my grandparents, I had to watch Gerald Hospital.
That was a different one.
Your ex liked her stories, her telenovelas.
Oh, except it was the English telenovelas.
But now the, it was, it was just always horrible stuff.

(46:12):
And funny enough, so watch that.
And the problem was, and guys, you're gonna rag on me,
but you all done it for you, for your woman too.
I had to keep up with this stuff too.
She wanted to talk about it.
Like it's not one of those things you had to,
you had to watch it.
No, you got to keep up with it.
And so, and for any dude who's had a dated Latina,

(46:34):
especially White Bull who's dated Latina,
like it's one of those things, it's not just like,
you don't listen, it's a problem.
It's like, you didn't listen.
The next thing you know,
you got like a knife to your throat or something.
So you don't want to mess with nobody.
So I had to watch it in that way.
Not all Latina ladies are that way,
just the ones that I dealt with.
Yeah, I had to watch.

(46:56):
I had to keep up with Shane Dawson and Jeffree Star
and all that stuff.
Oh man.
Oh Lord.
So that was kind of tough.
And I was just like, yeah.
And then what was the other one?
Was it Charles something?
James Charles, yeah.
I don't, so my wife talked about that with her friends a ton.

(47:17):
I didn't really know a ton about that,
but like she talked about that,
I'm sorry, I had to go through that.
The only thing about days of our lives that I remember
is having to keep up with that ish.
And then a few years later,
I'm sitting in Walmart at the automotive center,
getting my tires redone,
just cause it's cheap, doesn't mean it's good.
Anyway, so we're sitting there.

(47:39):
We were there for hours and days of our lives
was on the TV there.
And so I'm sitting it.
And this dude who, like at this point,
I had broken up with this girl like three,
four years beforehand.
And at this point, this dude walks out
and it's just like this dude was supposed to be dead
from like way back then.
And I just remember being in Walmart being like,
oh, heck no, heck no.

(48:01):
It's like Roger's back.
Uh-uh, he's supposed to be dead.
It's like, he was dead four years ago.
He fell off a cliff.
There ain't no way that man came back.
And I was like mad.
Like I was like having to like,
I didn't say any of that out loud,
but I'm like, oh, heck no.
I was like, no, Roger.
He's like, that boy did not come back.
He fell off a cliff on his car.

(48:22):
Like his car blew up.
Like that's the whole story.
Like there ain't no coming back from that.
And yeah, I just remember being like that.
And being like, that's how you know
that I had to pay attention to way too much
that show right there.
That's fine.
It would be as much as you like Seinfeld couldn't.
Yeah, like Seinfeld.
Not crazy about it.

(48:44):
I liked it a lot more earlier in life.
Now I'm not as big of it.
Like I think it's some of the characters that make it
like Kramer's funny, George Costanz is funny.
It's got Ben Stiller's dad, Jerry Stiller.
And so like Jerry Stiller is like George Costanz's dad
is pretty funny.
Like there are funny aspects to it,

(49:04):
but like Jerry himself and Elaine,
like they're not very funny.
Like it's kind of the side characters
that are the funny bits, I feel like.
But not crazy about friends.
Not crazy.
No, I don't ever get friends.
So and just don't like it.
Any real housewives, dude, that's not like,

(49:25):
not very stupid.
Like y'all should just not be friends.
Kind of same Kardashians, like no.
I had to watch the, what was that one?
Vanderpump, whatever.
Yeah, I had to watch that one.
Whatever that is.
I didn't like that one.
Oh, the bat, I think the bachelor and the bachelorette.
Oh God.
Yeah, no man.

(49:46):
Listen, what if I was going to do it,
I'm like, okay, if any other man was doing this,
like he would be canceled, but like.
He'd be canceled so fast.
And like something I'm gonna,
and if my grandmother is watching,
yeah, I'm calling you out on this one.
She, my grandmother would watch the bachelor.
She's a fairly pious woman who really be, you know,

(50:06):
making sure other people knows that you live
in a right or wrong and like,
but she loves watching the bachelor or bachelorette.
And like on that show, they'd be having like the love check
where it's like, who are you gonna choose to go to the love
check and spend the night with.
And I'm just like, oh, that ain't Christian.
I remember telling her one time I was like, oh yeah,
well that's not very God like of them to do that.
Aren't they only supposed to be courting?

(50:27):
And she was just like, well,
we just don't think about those aspects of the show.
They're just, they're just going in there to talk
and get to know each other.
Whatever, bro.
It's like really and truly,
they're just going in there for catering
because it's all a show.
But it's like we're looking at the principles of it.
It's like we're looking at the principles of it here.
So it's like, I can't stand any of that stuff.

(50:51):
It's like, but, you know, give me some good
Maury, Jerry Springer, we're good.
We're good.
Yeah, I got one more question.
It's your turn to ask a question,
but I got one more question left.
So, but go for it.
Okay.
So just kind of a prelude.
I'm not going to give too many details,
but Chris and I are about to take a very long drive here

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at some point.
And so it made me think about this question.
What is the longest straight drive that you've ever had?
Like was that driving out to Texas
or was have you had a longer drive?
And I'm not talking about like, okay, one day straight,
I'm talking about like the entire trip.
Like how long did you drive?

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It would come in.
Consecutively, like 15 days.
Either of that.
Moving out to Texas or when I went, had to drive back
to visit my mom, cause I did that drive
a couple of years ago.
That was long.
Yeah, which was a very long one.
Or which was probably about 18 hours.
And then I'm not sure how long it took for us

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to get to Washington, DC, but that took a couple of days.
So I would say one of those three,
but you went on like a round trip,
like drive around the whole country almost kind of, right?
Kind of, kind of.
It was from the North to the South.
I went from New York, like New York City

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all the way back to Lubbock, Texas.
That was quite a long way.
And so it was, that was quite interesting.
That one took three days.
And it was driving about 10 hours a day.
I just remember the first day we went from New York
and made it all the way to Virginia.
And bro, I kid you not, man.

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We pulled into Virginia and this was a place called,
I don't remember where it was called.
I could probably tell you Charlestonville or something.
I don't remember.
It was something like that.
Charlottesville?
No, not Charlottesville.
It's something else.
I'll think about it.
It's where James Madison University is
because it was like right around the corner.
Anyways, so we pull in and it's like two in the morning

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because the guy that I'm traveling with did not have a plan.
Like basically he's just like,
we're driving from New York back and being young,
you're like, okay, that's fine.
We got a rental car.
Like we'll find places, right?
And so the only hotel that we could find with vacancy
at one, two in the morning was the Motel 6.
And it was right on the side of the road
and it was very, very sketchy.

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And so we went and we went inside.
First of all, there was like a lady selling something
like two rooms down.
And she was like sitting on our porch
because this is one of those motel
that had like the doors are all on the outside
and it's got like the two levels here.
And so like people kept coming up back and forth to her

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and whatnot.
And reason being is because we sat in the parking lot
like checking the place out
because we didn't want to take our stuff out potentially
if it was going to be too sketchy.
And like this lady was definitely selling some stuff
but we decided it's late at night.
I don't care as long as she's like not bothering us
and like they know about to get into a shootout.
So like let's go in there.

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And so we went and I just remember like
putting the chair up under the door.
Like I was like, I ain't trusted none of this stuff, bro.
Like I ain't trusted none of this.
And so everything went fine, went to sleep, woke up.
And like the first thing I did when I woke up
was I looked outside and like was looking
and bro, there was like this giant rat.

(54:21):
And I was like, what the heck is that out there?
And it was a big behind rat.
And I was like, bro,
and I was like talking to the guy over here
and he was still asleep in bed.
I was like, dude, you gotta come see this.
This is like a big behind rat.
Like I was freaking out.
Cause I was like, dude, I'm not going outside.
That's a massive, like it was,
it's like a beaver size rat.
Like it was huge.
For sure it wasn't a possum.

(54:42):
No bro, look it up.
They have a thing called Nutria up there
and they're like giant rats.
Like they're huge.
Like I'm sure, ask your wife about it.
She's from up that way.
She probably knows about them.
Like they're massive behind rats.
And like it was like sitting out front in this Motel six and bro,
I was so ready to leave Virginia.

(55:02):
I was like, get me out of Virginia.
It's like we got, we got people selling meth next door.
We got the, you know, the big behind rats up here.
Anyways, so like that was probably the craziest thing to happen.
The rest of it was pretty uneventful, but it was just,
I just remember waking up that next morning calling,
is that a rat?
Is that a rat?
That's saying, yeah, that was.

(55:25):
I know a couple of rats that size.
One starts.
I'm just kidding.
Dude, and maybe this is like, I'm not a dad yet,
but maybe this is like my inner dad era,
but like I have to like plan stuff out.
We're going on a road trip.
Like, all right, this is where we're stopping.
Like, oh yeah.
I'm trying to engage like, okay,

(55:45):
this is where we're going to stop for gas.
Like I'm like, cause at the same time I'm like, I got,
when it's just me, like I don't care,
but like I got my wife with me.
Like if I'm traveling with other people, I'm like,
okay, we're going to stop in areas that I know it's like,
especially, especially if you traveling through the South,
if you've never traveled through the deep South,
and I'm not talking about particular parts of the South,

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there are parts of the South that are very nice,
but there are some parts of the South that's like,
if you don't know what you're doing,
you will get yourself robbed or shot.
So you really need to be, you'd really need to be safe.
And so I totally get what you're saying.
I mean, shoot, I kind of alluded to it.
We're going to take a long road trip here pretty soon.
I mean, I've already looked this route up.
I don't know how many times I've gauged kind of, okay,

(56:29):
this first day is going to be this.
And like, I mean, I've tried to gauge a lot of this crap out too.
It's one of those things.
I feel that same way.
And it's the same thing about like flying,
day before flying, like I'm checking those flights,
I'm checking the statuses.
I'm even like, I've even before looked at airport maps
to be like, all right, where's my connection
from this terminal to this terminal?
And how do I get there?
If I've never been there before, like,

(56:49):
I'm making sure I know what's going on.
You're like, come here, we're going to check the board.
Right here.
Right here.
Let's go.
Absolutely.
That's kind of your first thought.
Cause like a parental unit made him check the board
like every five minutes.
I hated that.
Make sure the flight didn't change.
And now they'll like update you on your phone.
But like,
Yeah, they'll update you on your phone.

(57:10):
But even then it's just like, bro,
that's what we got a two hour layover for.
The plane before the plane, even here,
it's like we could go do something
and then like an hour out,
even 30 minutes before boarding, check the board.
And then we still got 30 minutes to get somewhere
before it boards.
Like, hey, don't that make sense?
Anyways, we're not going to debate timeframes with,
you remember that question earlier about what irks me

(57:31):
that probably shouldn't.
I thought you were going to say about the ride.
ADHD.
No.
This is my last question.
All right.
And Ike has had a lot of cars I have to,
and I know probably which one,
I know you're going to say,
which one was your favorite car that you had?
It's going to be that white Dodge,

(57:53):
that white Dodge pickup.
So, bro, I was so proud of that truck.
So the first truck that I had was that $650
Azuzu pickup truck.
Like literally that's the making model.
If you look it up, it is Azuzu pickup truck.
Like that didn't even bother to name it.
And 650 bucks, that thing couldn't even go up to 60.
Like it was a piece of crap.

(58:14):
And for one thing it was also a manual.
So, you know, it was a manual.
So getting out to Texas and buying this one,
I know you'd like to be like Walker Texas Ranger,
but this was my ultimate Walker Texas Ranger truck
because he had like the Dodge Ram like that was white
with, except it had like the bar with the flashy lights.

(58:34):
Yeah, like you can see light on it.
Yeah.
Yep, exactly.
And it's just like that.
It's like, I kind of was like, oh yeah,
like we can have this cool truck.
But it definitely was a step up.
And I think a lot of it is just because
it's kind of good memories in that truck.
Like there was all sorts of fun stuff
that happened in there.
I was even telling my grandfather the other day,

(58:58):
I was talking to him sitting there
and we were talking about a story.
You probably remembered this one,
Christopher, I think you remember it well.
There was a certain mud pit that was between two dirt roads.
And so Buddy Mine had this pretty nice four by four truck.
So like he had an all wheel drive truck
and it started out, we wanted to go fishing.

(59:20):
And around Lubbock, there were like these little plyo lakes
that you can go fishing.
According to their website, there was this plyo lake
that was like around the corner from his house,
but no plyo lake.
It was a mud pit is what it was.
And there wasn't no fish in it at all.
And so that Buddy Mine was like, dude,
let's go out to the mud pit and just like go mud
and like, cause that was the thing to do.

(59:40):
And so he goes out there in his truck.
It's like, oh yeah, we should do that.
And so we go in his truck, have a good time.
And he goes, bro, we should bring your truck back
because it's not that bad.
My truck's only two wheel drive.
He's like, it'll handle two wheel drive.
The mud's not that bad.
Like it's not, just do it with an instigator.
Okay, first and foremost.
And so we're like, okay.

(01:00:02):
So I bring that truck back.
And I mean, I buried that thing down to the axle.
Like I buried that thing down to the axle.
And so next call, I don't remember why old fat cat
couldn't go get his truck again.
Like it was way over here or something.
So we call Chris and we're like, hey, Chris,
you got a truck, can you help pull me out?

(01:00:23):
Then what happened, Chris?
I got stuck too, right?
Didn't I get stuck?
You almost got stuck.
You almost got stuck.
Like he came out there and his was only a two wheel drive
as well.
And so we had a plan.
First of all, the strap we were using,
we were trying to use like a ratchet strap.
So it wasn't gonna work, first of all.
But second of all, we were like, okay,
we're gonna have Chris Farnoff out

(01:00:44):
to where he's not stuck in the mud.
And we were trying to do this whole thing.
But anyways, like I just remember your tires
just kept spinning and we just kept telling you,
like don't stop, because if you stop, like it's kind of,
and so we ended up just like getting you out of there.
And come to find out, there was one of my customers
from Boot Corral came in there and are like,

(01:01:07):
he pulls up in his Dooley and just starts like ragging on us.
I just remember he was like ragging on us.
I'm like, bro, are you gonna help us?
Or are you gonna just like talk crap?
And then finally he went out there with his chain
and like got us out of the mud pit.
Trust me, every time he came into the store,
I always heard about it.
Always heard about it.
I think Fat Cat just didn't wanna get his truck dirty.

(01:01:31):
I think he could have pulled you out of the,
if he had always-
He probably could have.
Chuck was the same size as the other guys.
I think he just didn't wanna help.
So-
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I remember almost.
Yeah, but it was, I mean, it was a pretty good truck.
And for me, I always wanted a truck.
I still do want a truck eventually one day,
but it's so expensive.

(01:01:52):
And so-
Dude, especially in Texas,
they're like three times more expensive in Texas
than they are everywhere else.
So I got mine, which was a Black Ford F-150,
it was probably a 98.
I think it was a 98.
That your favorite?
Huh?
Was that your favorite?
No, that's not my favorite.
The New York's obviously my favorite.

(01:02:13):
I love that Buick,
cause I didn't have any problems with it.
I was about to say the Black Truck.
Yeah, anyways, go ahead.
Black Truck has a lot of problems.
Like the locker would get stuck sometimes.
So like, you better not leave your keys in there.
But yeah, like you had an extended cab,
like it was the perfect size.

(01:02:33):
Like it was a pretty good truck for you.
Yeah, yeah, no, it was awesome.
Like the truck was really good.
I don't know, I remember picking up a lot of chicks
in that truck, like more than I did.
I remember going on a lot of dates in that truck
and then ended up meeting my wife
and shortly then after getting rid of that truck.

(01:02:53):
So what was wrong with it?
Why did you have to get rid of it?
So the engine started going out.
First that happened was the transmission went out
and it cost me like two grand to replace it.
So like I replaced it.
And at this point, like whenever you would drive it,
sometimes it would sound like popcorn,

(01:03:14):
like the cylinders would just misfire.
And so it wasn't that it was not running.
Like it would still get up the highway speeds
and do different things, but it would misfire quite a bit.
And it was one of those things,
you could just tell the engine was dying.
Like it was one of those things
where we're just kind of slowly going down.
And it was like, okay, it's gonna be,
I think it was like gonna be a three grand replacement

(01:03:35):
or something like that.
And I was like, at the time I was just like,
I'm just gonna put three grand into something else
cause the paint was peeling.
Like it was just kind of to the point
where I was just like, I'm ready to just get something else.
And my buddy at the time,
or the people who were my friends at the time,
cause this is when Chris and I had a hiatus in friendship,
one of them had just bought a Scat Pack Dodge, you know,

(01:04:00):
the type.
And so he just bought that.
And so like we were really kind of doing like,
we were doing the street racing thing.
And so my next car, I was like,
I've always wanted to have a tuner.
Like I always wanted to have like a rice burner tuner.
I always did.
And so I ended up buying a 96 Honda Del Sol
and it was Rattle Can Green.

(01:04:22):
It had the racing seats in it.
And I remember like, when I say it was green,
it was like neon ugly green.
And I just remember I was so proud cause I got a shift knob
and it was a skull that was the same color green.
Like had that on there.
And I thought I was so cool.
I'm sure the neighbors really pissed off

(01:04:44):
because it had a regular exhaust to it,
a really loud one.
But then this buddy Fat Cat and I,
we lifted up the rear end and was like,
I bet you we could take that off
and it would sound a lot better.
And it did.
Like instead of a rice burner, it sounded like a bass,
like it sounded like really bassy.
So when you would start it up,
like it was like really loud.
I'm sure the neighbors loved it.

(01:05:06):
I'm sure.
But then the engine went out on that one too.
But anyways, we've had plenty of cars.
I love the Buick so much.
Just cause you know, when you pay cash or something
and like you work real hard,
like I had a lot of good memories in that car.
Like it was my first car.

(01:05:27):
The truck was all right.
Like it was fine.
And then I, oh, I had the Chevy Equinox.
That thing was fine,
but that thing had so many problems.
I only had that thing for like 40 years.
Is that the one,
is that the one the radiator kept screwing up?
Yeah, like the head gasket blew twice.
Oh yeah.

(01:05:47):
We were playing it the first time.
And then after that, we were like, yeah.
It's just not worth it.
And then I had my little Nissan Versa, which was cool.
Then I had the Nissan Kix, the white one.
And now I have a new Nissan Kix,
which I very much enjoy that car.
It's a good car.
So.
So I got to run,
I'm going to run shortly through the full list here.

(01:06:09):
Azuzu pickup truck,
I had the Dodge Ram 1500, the white one.
Then after that, I had the 96 Honda Del Sol,
the Rattle Can green one.
After that one blew, I bought a Hyundai Accent.
It was like a 2000 Hyundai Accent
from an Indian man named Rutvik.
And it smelled like curry.
So don't turn the AC on.

(01:06:30):
Like all my friends at the time knew,
like don't turn the AC on in Micah's car
because you will smell like curry for the next freaking day.
That one, I bought that one for 800 bucks.
The transmission blew out on that one.
So I ended up getting rid of that one.
I had a Honda Civic, a 2003 Honda Civic.
That one was a stick shift.
I had three, to that point, I had three stick shifts.

(01:06:51):
So I had a lot of manuals to that point.
And then after that, I bought a 2010 Ford Fusion,
the blue one, the one that you knew about.
And then after the Fusion is the one
that I currently have now, which is the Honda.
So it's been quite a bit, but like I said,
I had a lot of stick shifts.

(01:07:12):
I think half of my cars or a little less
than half of my cars were manuals.
So there you go.
Pretty wild.
It's been great.
You have one more last question or?
Yeah, I've got one.
This one's a short one.
Is there ever a sport or an activity that you've wanted to try?
And I'm not talking about maybe not sport,

(01:07:33):
maybe more activity.
So like scuba, snowboarding, skiing, water skiing.
Like, is there anything that you're like,
oh man, that sounds like a pretty fun to do?
Parasailing.
Parasailing.
But honestly, like, I think getting into archery,
that'd be cool.
I got some pretty, like, I don't think I'd do bow hunting,
but like just shooting archery.
It's pretty fun.
I've done it a few times.

(01:07:54):
I think that's fun.
Water skiing, probably not, because I
don't have the best balance.
So I don't know.
Like, I really do want to try, like, I know I'll probably
wipe out, but like snowboarding or skiing.
But I don't think I'd do that great.
But parasailing.

(01:08:15):
Parasailing.
Or curling, dude.
I've always wanted to get in the car.
Paraleling, too.
Apparently, my brother-in-law, I found this out
when he was here.
He's like, he's like head of the Association of Curling
in his town.
Like, he's really big in a curling.
And I'm just like, dude, I love curling.
You know, it's weird.
That is like one of my weird sports.

(01:08:35):
Like, whenever winter, it's like winter sports comes on,
or like winter Olympics comes on.
It's like, I don't care about a lot of the other sports,
but it's like curling.
I'll watch some good curling.
That's pretty dope.
Let's talk about this after that.
Shaves the ice.
Yeah.
Now, that looks like a really cool job.
I would want to try that.
Snowboarding is one that's on my list.

(01:08:56):
Again, I think I would probably break something.
But I think snowboarding would be pretty cool.
I've wanted to try to do water skiing.
I've wanted to try to do water skiing and just see.
But the other one that I've really wanted to try,
so some people are like, oh, man, it's kind of crazy.
I've wanted to try ice fishing.

(01:09:17):
Like, not just fishing, but just ice fishing.
I've heard you can make it really comfortable.
I'm not just talking about sitting over an ice hole
and freezing yourself off.
I hear you could put a nice enclosure over it,
and the ice is sticking up to where
you can have some sort of heat source, and where it's not
freezing in there, right?
And you can have snacks and whatnot.
I mean, that's fine with me.

(01:09:38):
That sounds like a good time.
Snowmobiling.
I do want to go snowmobile.
Or jet skis.
I've never done jet skis.
That sounds fun.
I've done jet skis one time, and I would love to do it again.
Problem is, I need more money.
Donabuck's Podcasters, Trashcan, TV OGs,
we need more money to go jet skiing.
We're speaking of all this stuff that we're doing.

(01:10:00):
Y'all should check out Trashcan Travel.
Check that out.
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You can't allow.
And Micah definitely has some things
that are coming up in the works that he's
going to be posting, alluding to some of the things we've
talked about.
But yeah, where else can they find us that?
Over at the Trashcan Network, over on YouTube,
if you want to search us over at Donabuck's podcast,

(01:10:21):
that's G-H-D-O-U-G-H-N-U-T podcast.
Or box.
I've got to throw the box in there.
Donabuck's podcast.
But if you just want to put in Donut like that,
I've seen it come up with that.
But just go ahead and put in Donabuck's podcast.
It'll pop up there.
Remember to like and subscribe us over there, over on Facebook

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Vice versa, if you guys are over on Spotify, listening to us

(01:11:03):
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You can go.
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that's also a link that's on there too.
You can go be sent off over there and you
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It's all linked up, man.
So come check us out.

(01:11:23):
Well, I think it's time for the Starship to take us out.
I'm Chris.
Not my good.
And this has been Just On The Parkfront.